What It Feels Like Being The Other Woman / Mistress In An Affair

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024

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  • @nikkiallen1500
    @nikkiallen1500 2 года назад +66

    Mother said “NEVER do anything in the Dark that you don’t want seen in the Light!

    • @katelondon01
      @katelondon01  2 года назад +4

      🙌🙌🙏

    • @candysunflower9747
      @candysunflower9747 2 года назад +1

      Exactly!

    • @Mr93sharpei
      @Mr93sharpei 4 месяца назад +3

      Amen ...my mom taught us this too

    • @nikkiallen1500
      @nikkiallen1500 19 дней назад +2

      Man Up! Cannot have both, Be honorable & Do the right thing & stop breaking your wife’s heart❤️. Tick Tock, it’ll blow up⏰

  • @SweetChix
    @SweetChix Год назад +39

    Believe it or not, extreme loneliness led me to have an affair with a married man who was after me. I regret what I did. We never actually slept together (thankfully), but we still did things that could be considered cheating. I'm not stupid or naive. I know a married man's words can not be trusted. If he can lie to his wife, then he'll definitely lie to me. Seems like all of us hear the same lies. That they're gonna leave, that their wife is crazy, that he is un happy in his marriage. Sweet nothings are what I call them. But when you genuinely fall for a liar, it's hard to configure the truth. If you're seeing this video because you're tired of being the other woman, take my advice and stop. Stop selling yourself short of true love. Put yourself in the wife's shoes. Do you still want that man? A man who can break a vow he made not only to God but to his wife is a man of low value. I'll admit what I did was distasteful, and it was less than moral. As a woman who didn't love herself at the time, it felt good to have someone "do" it for me. Even though he was more than likely just telling me what I wanted to hear.

    • @katelondon01
      @katelondon01  Год назад +4

      Thankyou @kewpieDays for sharing your experience. It truly helps the readers to not feel so alone in this journey 💕

    • @Elliestandsforpeace
      @Elliestandsforpeace Год назад +6

      Loneliness is one of the big reasons that lead me to become a mistress too, sad but true :(

    • @Elliestandsforpeace
      @Elliestandsforpeace Год назад +5

      Luckily it’s all over for me now💕 no more being a mistress and I feel so much better for it

    • @heyheyhey6656
      @heyheyhey6656 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@Elliestandsforpeacehi do you have an FB account. I just need support system.

  • @fireeye33
    @fireeye33 2 года назад +109

    I don't understand why society blame the other woman, it is normally the unfaithful men who pursue the other woman/mistress. Men's nature is to chase and pursue. If my husband has a mistress I would put a bow on him and freely hand him to the mistress. I wouldn't want to be with unfaithful man. He wants the mistress he can have her, but he can't have her and me at the same time. Can't have the cake and eat it too bc I am not a bakery I wont bake the cake.

    • @Sarkura_cardcapture
      @Sarkura_cardcapture 2 года назад +30

      Idk about that. I think both are to blame. I mean if she didn’t know he was married that’s one thing. But knowing that there is a wife and family from the beginning? Yes husband is to blame of course but as a woman why would you come into a union like that? Break a family? Oh and this goes for the other man too. This goes to who ever walks into a relationship with someone who is married with a family

    • @fireeye33
      @fireeye33 2 года назад

      @@Sarkura_cardcapture you live in the western society too long dear, the rest of the world outside of the western world is a diff reality and horribly blaming the 3rd party unequally. Physical attack is common. The men almost don't have moral burden & protected.

    • @candysunflower9747
      @candysunflower9747 2 года назад +14

      Well wait until it happens then you can let us know. You have no idea what it is like to experience that your life has been built on lies and that the person who relied on for safety, security and love is the biggest threat to all of it.

    • @fireeye33
      @fireeye33 2 года назад +1

      @@candysunflower9747 your ill wish towards others is going to comeback biting you, CAREFUL with your mouth! you need to read men's psychology book to understand men & why nice girls finish last. I've been married 17yrs and I'm ready to upgrade to husband 2.0 and dumped husband 1.0 if he has mistress. I'm fit, sexy, healthy, model looking, make a lot of money, the most important is, I don't rely my happiness on men/husband. I rely my happiness on myself.

    • @lotusmccary9365
      @lotusmccary9365 2 года назад +14

      It is so much easier to blame strangers than it is to blame a beloved husband. The reality is he broke the agreement he had. And most often he lies to both women.

  • @x0xx0x54
    @x0xx0x54 2 года назад +26

    You have no idea how hard times the other woman has. Nobody wants to be the other woman but sometimes life puts you in this situation. You feel like trash all the time guilt all the time, you always live in secret you never can talk to somebody about it. But these goddamn fucking love feelings messing up everything. I am going trough so much pain and such a hard time, the shame the guilt, but the worse of all is, because of this i lost believe in everybody every couple i allways think now that everybody is cheating i dont think i could ever trust anybody anymore. Thank you for understanding us, even its not a situation to justify, we are human, sometimes we lost against our feelings.. i wish i never ended in a situation like this but its so painfull, painfull to see that you have zero control, allways have to be on the side line, never can call or message, have no idea about what he is doing during the day, untill its your time. Such a bad situation wish i never put my self in. And in the end of the time they will always choose the wife over you

    • @Sarkura_cardcapture
      @Sarkura_cardcapture 2 года назад +11

      I can’t pretend that this isn’t triggering for me. But my best advice as the wife, run! It will destroy you and he is being selfish. It’s all lies.
      I bet he said his wife hasn’t been the same or they don’t even sleep together. When in fact he will sleep with her more because of the guilt. But the worst part is that your a accomplice to someone’s abuse. Because I promise she is trying everything and feeling like a pos while he is blaming her for cheating and gaslighting her. And then he feels like crap so he romances her again. And once the wife finds out because she will. He will first always deny it. And then the time will come when he doesn’t . All the secrets you thought you had with him he will tell her . Because he wants to save his marriage . Literally in therapy they tell you to tell everything to your partner.
      I say this because no one wins here. Not even him. He will have to work hard on his marriage. His wife the woman he married will feel so many emotions. And if she finds out that you exist it will be worse for you.
      And also to add. Women know the laws in your state. As the mistress you can be sued in some states. It’s just not worth it.
      Your enabling abuse to another woman.
      We have to stick together as women
      I hope you really consider what I wrote you.
      You never want to be the one who broke up a marriage. Think about all his family members , the kids, the friends, etc.
      If he respected you , he would have never done this to you. Period. He is not respecting you, his wife , his marriage, family, kids , etc.
      Please think about it. And say F off to him. You deserve better not to be hidden by some jerk that is playing you and his wife .

    • @x0xx0x54
      @x0xx0x54 2 года назад +6

      @@Sarkura_cardcapture i appreciate your advice and time that you took for me to wright this so much. You are so right… guess what. Something so weird happened. After i wrote this comment i saw a instagram post of him with his wife and child with text like: blessed with family. At the moment i saw that something snapped in me. I was so furious so dissapointed, actually i shouldnt because i knew he has a family but i also knew that its not real because in the meanwhile he was also with me. I knew its fake reality and fake hapiness showing to people. But that instagram post saved me, as hard it was i did it. I ended the relationship first in my head for the first time, i immediately accepted that i didnt want to treated like this anymore. So i have let him know and told him that the game is over. That i not longer allow him to hold me in this toxic situation. He didnt expect this because he sayd you allready knew the situation arent you over it? Why is it a problem now. I have had hard days after ending this relationship but it was good. Because somehow i met somebody a couple days ago, and he is so sweet and kind for me, i explained him this story and he told me he is happy that I finished it on time. Afcourse i didnt forget him completely but its probably the memorys and unfinished dreams. It was just a toxic situation which i thought was love, but you are completely right, he wasnt respecting me or is family because if he did he wouldnt put any of us in this situation. I love you babe! Thank you for giving me advice and instead of judging me. 💜

    • @Sarkura_cardcapture
      @Sarkura_cardcapture 2 года назад +6

      @@x0xx0x54 I'm just seeing this... That is amazing!!!! Good for you!!! It's so easy to judge but I would rather help my sisters

    • @Hassanthehorse
      @Hassanthehorse 2 года назад +6

      You made a mistake, but all you can do now is strive to avoid contributing to the misery of others in the future because of your own wounds. I'm not judging you (even though my instinct was to shame you because of my own painful past related to my father) because it's an inevitable aspect of the human condition, but please, for YOUR own good, heal whatever is hurting inside you that is causing you to settle for unavailable men. If you had a father who abandoned you or was unavailable (or maybe he was available but very narcissistic), that might be a core wound of yours that you aren't even aware of and one that needs to be acknowledged.
      Do your best to learn from the mistakes you've made and take responsibility for what you did wrong (the boundaries you didn't set, why you didn't set them, and what you can do in order to prevent this from occurring again) without subjecting yourself to shame or self-hatred. I believe you can learn and grow from this if you reflect on it long and deep enough. I'm glad to hear that you've moved on, you deserve to be with someone who makes you their main priority.

    • @babaib3513
      @babaib3513 2 года назад +1

      Get rid of him

  • @Softsoul.
    @Softsoul. 2 года назад +21

    I did not find out after 3 months dating. And now trying to remove myself from the situation but it’s so difficult. The drama and the pain that is causing me and everyone involved is not healthy anymore. Watching RUclips videos is the only thing that is keeping me somehow insane without feeling judge. I don’t want to hurt another woman on purpose but I can’t just put all my feelings away. But I know that in the end this all will be over.

    • @Sarkura_cardcapture
      @Sarkura_cardcapture 2 года назад +5

      I’m truly sorry. I would look up trauma bonds and how to break free from it. Such a game changer. I have never been in your situation and I truly can’t imagine. But 3 month - run! He’s toxic and playing with your heart. Think about it, he’s lying to the woman he married and perhaps has a family with. And the relationship started with a big lie . He doesn’t respect you and you deserve to be respected. Don’t let this get in the way of your happiness.
      Woman to woman
      Break the trAuma bond and run
      Your “intimate” moments are going to be shared with his wife and the consequences can be dangerous. You don’t deserve this ❤️

    • @KraftyScorpio
      @KraftyScorpio Год назад

      Hope you're doing okay a year later. xoxo

  • @gabriellawless2202
    @gabriellawless2202 2 года назад +34

    Thank you so much for this content hon - I didn’t find out that he was married until we had been dating a year 😢
    No one ever expects to find themselves here.
    Big hugs to anyone trying to navigate an experience like this.

    • @katelondon01
      @katelondon01  2 года назад +2

      Oh Gabriel that would have been really tuff to find out. We are here for you through this journey ❤️ I'm glad you are finding value ✨

    • @Sarkura_cardcapture
      @Sarkura_cardcapture 2 года назад +4

      That’s so different. You didn’t know. My heart goes out to you. He betrayed you, too.

    • @edelineambas7473
      @edelineambas7473 2 года назад +6

      Cheating men could always leave their wives for their mistresses, but they don't. Just selfish, and gutless guys.

    • @edelineambas7473
      @edelineambas7473 2 года назад +3

      And mistresses, give the same reasons, " we were in love." " There was no mistake, and coincidences."

    • @gabriellawless2202
      @gabriellawless2202 Год назад +1

      @@thickgoddess1835 my heart is with you, girl - I’m so sorry, I know how hard and emotionally complicated it is, once you’re already that invested in someone, to have to find out that so much was lies.
      Ugh! Hang in, you’re not alone!

  • @keiashacarter9175
    @keiashacarter9175 3 месяца назад +2

    You're not high value if your desperate enough to start a relationship with a married man.

  • @camillagonzales2409
    @camillagonzales2409 Год назад +30

    My ex cheated with several women. I never blamed any of them. All the pain and devastation I felt was due to this selfish narcissistic, lying a-hole. And I placed the blame squarely on him. his long term side chick even remarked to me, “I think under different circumstances we could have been friends.” I faced reality and dumped his butt. No matter how much he begged, I never took him back. Oh..and he was just fine. Remember, ladies, betrayed wife or duped side chick, these guys take very good care of themselves. They are not worth the torture we put ourselves through.

    • @katelondon01
      @katelondon01  Год назад +4

      Such powerful words Camilla Gonzales. Thankyou for sharing

    • @lotusmccary9365
      @lotusmccary9365 Год назад +1

      Thank you so much

    • @Nlb2316
      @Nlb2316 Год назад +2

      It’s very wise of you to see it so fairly. He was the problem and lied to both of you. I’m sorry for what he did. I hope you get all the blessings times 10 ❤❤

  • @bchang227
    @bchang227 Год назад +8

    I can understand it if the mistress didn't know and ends the relationship once she finds out, but oftentimes, they dont. They seem to have this delusion that the guy they're cheating with will leave his wife and kids for her, and they'll live happily ever after. I understand, it's bc she's being fed lies after lies by him, but once she knows that he's a married man, it's best to end the relationship. If he really wanted to leave his wife, he'd had done so a long time ago.

    • @mikewlfx1045
      @mikewlfx1045 Год назад +3

      as one of those woman , i was so in love with him i just couldn’t leave him. and i didn’t even think he will leave her for me or something , i just loved myself so little and him so much that i accepted to be the other woman. also, i was fucking 15.

  • @keiashacarter9175
    @keiashacarter9175 3 месяца назад +2

    You are diluisional to normalize being a mistress. If u are aware of a man being married and u allow yourself to start a relationship with him. U are just as wrong as him. Take responsibility for your part and stop looking for sympathy! And should feel guilty for inserting yourself!!!

    • @keiashacarter9175
      @keiashacarter9175 3 месяца назад +1

      And u shouls feel guilty for inserting yourself into a marriage. Look at it like this, if some one offers u posion would accept it, know its not good for you. I'm so tired of these side pieces, that have never been married, acting like victims.

  • @MHGKarma
    @MHGKarma Год назад +17

    I feel so guilty. All the time. Its horrible. He came onto me so strong, told me he had told her about me, but then when he left the family home - he started having all these doubts. He was still coming over and sleeping with me, telling me all the right things about falling for me, then he would say he is struggling the next day and not talk to me, next up was the blame - making me feel like I was the problem. He made me feel so special, and loved and then made me feel like a monster. Just horrible. All of it. My advice is to just never ever ever get involved with a married man… or one thats recently separated. From personal experience the lows are not worth the highs he promises. Just avoid if you can, I am still in love with the man that showered me with what I thought love was, the affection and all that, but at the end of the day - he still goes back to his wife and I am the one lonely each night. Ive become an option, the backstep. Just plain awful

    • @HoneyboyDes
      @HoneyboyDes 4 месяца назад +1

      When someone goes through those struggles, we need to be understanding and supportive. It blows over. Affairs can be a roller-coaster of emotions. If you love the affair ride the storm.

    • @terezasanchez2981
      @terezasanchez2981 23 дня назад

      That's exactly how I feel. You summarized it so well.

  • @pedroquiver9489
    @pedroquiver9489 2 года назад +26

    Nobody thinks the other woman goes without hurting. The other woman is going through a lot because, she is for one, cutting herself short by being with a no good man. All of them say the same thing. I have never seen the mistress go from mistress to wife, and it work out. The mistress becomes extremely insecure. And she gets cheated on. Always. Please dont baby these types of women, they know exactly what they are doing. Most men can divorce and get back on his feet with hard work. So, he could be with the other woman no problem if he wanted, that is not what he wants, he wants the intercourse with the side and the stabitilty with the wife. Most men I know, get kicked out by the wife, and want to come back home to his wife. Please, have respect for yourself.

    • @edelineambas7473
      @edelineambas7473 2 года назад +8

      Correct. It is adultery. Period.

    • @candysunflower9747
      @candysunflower9747 2 года назад +5

      Thank you! You are so right. This behavior needs to stop being normalised by this type of shit. They made a choice to be in the relationship. What choice did the unsuspecting wife have? These enablers are not victims.

    • @babaib3513
      @babaib3513 2 года назад

      Sad but true

    • @navehhall73
      @navehhall73 Год назад

      Well said. Wow. Perfect comment 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

    • @navehhall73
      @navehhall73 Год назад

      @@candysunflower9747 100%

  • @jenaskye1567
    @jenaskye1567 Год назад +5

    In my case the other woman KNEW about me - knew I had a one year old and was 2 months pregnant. She did not care & still wants my husband. Thereis no guilt or careing from her at all about breaking up a family.

    • @terezasanchez2981
      @terezasanchez2981 23 дня назад +1

      what does it say about your husband though?

    • @jenaskye1567
      @jenaskye1567 23 дня назад +1

      @terezasanchez2981 true. Both - affairs are wrong. So much damage that lasts for years 💔

  • @KC-hv5dk
    @KC-hv5dk 2 года назад +45

    Kate, thank you for putting this up and validating that “other women” are people with feelings too. People in this situation get villainized a lot and it creates a lot of feeling of isolation to the woman going through it. Truth is we dont will for these things to happen. We dont pre-meditate to be in this situation. We often find ourselves in an internal struggle of what we thought our values are and staying true to our feelings, especially if the love being shown feels real. I didnt want to be in this situation, but somehow got tricked into being into one, and believe me when i say - we carry a lot of guilt to have come between. I hope to continue to hear from you.. I want to be part of a community who journeys to heal from broken relationships, and rebuilding our trust in ourselves and our judgment. That we are still good people despite the wrong choices we made

    • @highlightme1205
      @highlightme1205 2 года назад +16

      Why do you put up with it? The wife doesn't know she is with a piece of shit, but you do..you are an ego boost to him, if he loved you he would be straight with her and be with you

    • @katelondon01
      @katelondon01  2 года назад +4

      Thank you for sharing K C. It definitely can be challenging to fully grasp the emotional ties looking from the outside in. I am working on a new way to create a community that's not on FB so stay tuned on here for more. 💕

    • @libertysimpson7666
      @libertysimpson7666 2 года назад +2

      This was healing, just reading this 🥲

    • @kelleyhuffman2773
      @kelleyhuffman2773 2 года назад +8

      I had zero sympathy for the mistress. My ex cheated for 5 1/2 years and left me for a skank. My life and the lives of our four kids will never be the same. We have been devastated and traumatized just so this awful woman could have a boyfriend. Chase someone single! This is beyond selfish and immoral on both parts. There is no justification for this.

    • @angele4890
      @angele4890 2 года назад +5

      Sweetie be accountable of yourself, I was the other women I wish I could have told the fiancee and that hurt you feel is hurting yourself not others. Own that immature thinking and grow up from disrespecting yourself and others.
      One hard lesson I learned is that I was not a good person and had to accept that to be one. I also learned that I had to be accountable for myself and that meant facing the consequences of my actions. I learned never to follow my feelings to simply regard them as emotions that could come to use if regarded in a healthy and mature action.
      Use your logic LOve you deserve to be a better person for yourself and start taking action to be one by being real with yourself.
      Walk away and be better, feelings are not worth devaluing your very core and necessary growth.
      Take this as a sign that something needs fixing in yourself and your ignoring it by chosing to be a bad person. ❤️
      Best of luck to you.

  • @katerinasofie6879
    @katerinasofie6879 Год назад +15

    Thank you so much for making this video. I used to judge the other women very harshly but you never know what life will bring you. Now Im finding myself falling for a married guy and even though its still quite platonic, I definitely see that relationships are much more complex than I used to think.

    • @navehhall73
      @navehhall73 Год назад

      Do NOT go anywhere near that man. Yuck. Just look in the mirror and realize how disgusting your life will become when you become a homewrecker and a side chick 304. By the way, your chances of ever getting married will be ruined by doing this. Also, the spirit realm is real. You cannot fathom how many curses you will reap upon yourself by getting close to him. Ghost him and don't come close to that man in any way shape or form. You will thank me in 5 years. You will REALLY thank me in 10 years.

    • @angele4890
      @angele4890 Год назад +1

      They aren't complex, people are the issue not specifically a relationship. You feel this way simply based off of emotional immaturity. In the past your anger towards the other women was also emotional immaturity. Why? Because you saw a person who was hurting your relationship when really instead the real person who hurt you was you and your partner.
      Grow up love. No one wants to be the side chick. No one wants a married man. We want our illusion to be real.
      Don't fall for your fantasies. They aren't real, you should though realize this is a sign. You need love not from someone else but you. Your missing feeling valued. Sorry you feel this way.
      How do I know. I have been the dumb immature affair partner before. It's not real.
      Good luck on loving you and actually questioning your feelings. 🙋‍♀️

  • @beckya040301
    @beckya040301 Год назад +8

    Today a wife confronted me. I was a married woman once and now i did the same thing that was done to me. When I think about it we gave each other what we needed. I needed a connection and he needed a release. And i knew this. I was never special to this man. And there is no future. His wife is ill and their is no longer intimacy. So he looked for it elsewhere. He wasn't looking for love. I knew that also. And I am not in love with him either. Just two people connecting during times of loneliness. 😢 i never once thought i would be the other woman. And we never even kiseed. Was all texting.

  • @keithwilliams88
    @keithwilliams88 Месяц назад +1

    Saying that mistresses are often not careless, and are in fact burdened with guilt etc just misses the point.
    What you’re feeling about it doesn’t really matter, only your actions matter.
    Don’t say yeah you slept with a married man but you felt bad about how much it hurt his wife and family, especially if you then keep on doing it after recognizing it!
    Any man who would betray and lie to his current wife isn’t a man worth having. You can just toss everything he says and does to woo you in the trash. If you do catch him, it’s only a matter of time before you are being betrayed or you get to win a lifetime of suspicion. He is no prize.

    • @katelondon01
      @katelondon01  Месяц назад +1

      I understand where you are coming from Keith. I think this has been the way the world has perceived infidelity for so long. It's easy to think this when there has been so much hurt in these situations. However, It's important to consider the emotional complexities involved before ruling out someone's ability to feel. Dismissing feelings in this context is similar to telling someone struggling with addiction that their shame or guilt doesn't matter because they still chose for it. While actions are crucial for change, acknowledging the emotional turmoil people experience is where the journey to healing begins. Even when someone makes a choice, it doesn't mean we should disregard their emotions. We are human, dealing with our own challenges and pain and we deserve a space to have support no matter the circumstances.

  • @julisa141
    @julisa141 2 года назад +13

    This is what I needed. I’m feeling all over the place.

  • @ark.0616
    @ark.0616 Год назад +4

    I always know everyday that deep inside his heart that he loves and care for his wife even they may have sometimes misunderstandings or arguments at the end of the day they will still be there for each other . His wife is the place of his stability and no matter what he will not let it go , i understand that .I wish him happiness . His love for me is enough ,Just loving me is already enough for me now ,I’m happy with that ,I’m not expecting much more than that and I will not dream about us together in the future because it will just become a delusion for me😢

    • @N1kky1111
      @N1kky1111 10 месяцев назад

      I’m going thru the same thing and he left me with a baby at 2 months old. She will be 3 months next week. She never loved him. Never showed him the love and affection I showed him. But yet he still went back to her. I don’t understand.

    • @tlxxx1596
      @tlxxx1596 3 месяца назад

      @@N1kky1111you’re pathetic

    • @nikkiallen1500
      @nikkiallen1500 19 дней назад +1

      Umm, excuse me…this man doesn’t Love, not you & not his wife. He’s using you! Have some self esteem & hold yourself to some value.

  • @apriljohnson1067
    @apriljohnson1067 Год назад +9

    Neither of us set out to have an affair. Who you are after many years of marriage is not the same as who you are when you met the marriage partner. And sometimes the affair partner is more compatible than the marriage partner. We understand ourselves better… of course it’s easier to connect with someone else.
    What I dislike is the talk about how affairs are about narcissism or “brain chemicals.” We are hard-wired to feel passionate love for one person at a time and that does not last a lifetime. Long-lasting love is a partnership, yes, but the feelings are different. Meeting someone who sparks love and passion is just as real as what you may have had with your married partner at one time. There is no difference in “brain chemicals,” between the start of the legal relationship and the affair. And again, some affair partners are more compatible than the legal partner.
    I left my marriage over my affair. Regardless of whether or not the affair partner will be with me, I cannot continue after finding someone I love more than my partner of 20 years. Amazing, yes. It changed my life. I understand it will likely never work but I also realized we just live far too long to commit to one person for 50 years.

    • @Mental_Alchemist
      @Mental_Alchemist Год назад +4

      Love isnt just about feelings. And everything that feelz good to you aint necessarily good for you.
      Heroin probably gives you an AMAZING feeling, but is it worth it to destroy lives, forego your vows, and jeopordize your children's mental and emotional well-being just to get a feeling?
      And while i can agree that those feelings can arise for someone else in the future, the difference is that you werent married, nor had the same duties and obligations and ppl relying on you as someone's wife and mother.
      Ngl, my ex w did the same thing and "fell in love" with someone else.....it wasnt anything i did specifically, let her tell it, but she fell for some smooth talking guy (who ened up leaving her ftr)....and she started making excuses that "we grew apart" and was uninterested in even trying to fix things during that time.
      The loss of our family and the cavilier way she threw it all away without even considering our kids had me up a few nights holding a shotgun to my face trying to figure out how to pull the trigger....not even necessarily for wanting her back.....but bcuz the pain (it was weirdly physical and hits u in waves) was so bad and there was nothing i could do to stop it.
      If anyone is reading this and is going thru something similar, ive heard that the same pain receptors like from a bad toothache are activated and a tylenol or advil can help. Instead of feeling it in a specific place, u feel it everywhere, but nowhere specifically. You'll get thru it....trust me. It Just takes time and just learn how to sit in the pain....it helped me to just breathe and imagine that i was sitting in a sauna. Dont resist, just embrace it (as counterintuitive as that sounds) until that wave passes. It will suck.....for me, it felt like being burned and stabbed on the inside at the same time......but just breathe and stop resisting. The waves will gradually become less intense and come less often until they finally stop. If u know u know.
      I really wish that cheaters knew what they put some ppl thru. I wouldnt wish that pain on most ppl (except cheaters😂)....looking back tho, im sort of proud that i was able to overcome. Im pretty tough. But i think id rather get shot or my azz kicked b4 going thru that again.
      Im ok now, life goes on, but now, i cant see myself ever falling "in love" like that ever again. In a way it feels like she took something pure from me that i dont think i could ever get back. But to be fair, i dont know if i just love different, but for me, it's not worth the risk to go thru that again so i dont even want it.

    • @apriljohnson1067
      @apriljohnson1067 Год назад +1

      @@Mental_Alchemist as if I’ve destroyed anyone’s life

    • @Mental_Alchemist
      @Mental_Alchemist Год назад +3

      @@apriljohnson1067 someday i hope you feel the pain of betrayal, hurt, and humiliation that you're helping to inflict on the other person.
      Not simply because u r a random person who disagrees with me....but just so u can know what it feels like.....like really really feel it. If u did, you would truly understand how terrible it is to do someone like that.
      Not only is it the physical act, but the lying, gaslighting, loss of family, and removal of affection that comes along with an affair.....cheaters really do mentally abuse the person they are with and many ppl are broken due to it. You are knowingly and willingly an accomplice to that.....
      Idk how u could even trust a man willing to put his WIFE and possibly kids thru that. If he is willing to do It with you,he is willing to do it to you someday.
      You guys are the wrong kind of selfish imo.

    • @nikkiallen1500
      @nikkiallen1500 Год назад +4

      Mental, Yes, well said. Infidelity shatters a marriage. Even trying to stay in that union it is Never the same. I do not have much sympathy for the “other woman” who disrespects the married man’s wife & his vows to wife & God. We may not always have a choice of who we’re attracted to but we always have a CHOICE of our response. We have a deep Responsibly to not step into and cause a quagmire of pain, destruction of trust, values & character! This doesn’t Just happen! Remember being told to “Follow your heart But take your brain with you!”.

    • @Mental_Alchemist
      @Mental_Alchemist Год назад +1

      @@nikkiallen1500 1000%. its crazy that u even have to explain this to grown adults....smh

  • @hansdiegans8351
    @hansdiegans8351 2 года назад +7

    I needed that video thank you.
    You are the friend I don’t have. Your Account means a lot to me💕

    • @candysunflower9747
      @candysunflower9747 2 года назад

      You don't deserve friends because you are clearly dishonest and don't mind appropriation of other people's property.

  • @SquirrelyGirl17
    @SquirrelyGirl17 2 года назад +13

    Thank you so much for making this. People have no idea about certain situations until they themselves are in the situation. Never say never…it is possible to SHOCK YOURSELF. I know this personally.

    • @thealphawomanpreneurtv
      @thealphawomanpreneurtv 2 года назад +2

      Yes. Like my mom says never say what you won’t do.

    • @mikewlfx1045
      @mikewlfx1045 Год назад +2

      fr. before i said i would NEVER touch a man who’s taken. and now look where i am, destroying myself to be the other woman only because i’m so deeply in love with him

  • @ammamaw
    @ammamaw 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for this. Unbelievably, this didn’t happen to me until I was almost 80. Still dancing around with it, but it’s different at this age. I don’t have any illusions about him, leaving his wife for me. Nor would I even want to partner with him. He’s old as well, and neither one of us had had real affection or sex for decades. We know it’s probably our last chance at it all. . We have so much fun together. It was a huge surprise. But I still cycle through guilt and pulling away. I’m glad I never got involved with anything like this when I was younger.

  • @eveyk.1204
    @eveyk.1204 2 года назад +5

    I was the other woman once. I knew he lived with a woman and they had a daughter together but he kept repeating how he was about to leave her, he can't stand her, she is the worst etc. And i foolishly believed him. It went on for almost a year, a year of suffering during which he would get mad at me for crying and saying that i wanted more. He would make me believe i was annoying and he couldnt stand the pressure. Then he confessed me he married her, according to him a month before he told me that. But they have lived together for 18 years. And she was a foreigner without a job for 18 years so she couldnt have stayed there that long without a marriage. Yet i figured that out too late, or rather i chose to believe that they had just married. But after finding out they are married it was over for me. Plus on multiple occasions he would tell me that he talks with other foreign women on websites but just to pretend he likes them and make himself feel important because they and him for money and to help them move here. He has so many nakes pictures of women that are clearly escorts or in love with him.
    So i realized i wasn't just the other woman, i was among who knows how many other women. And he didn't have any respect for me, other women or his wife whatsoever. And his wife by the way knew all about me and others and she hated that but was okay with it as long as he lived with her and provided her with the lavish lifestyle she has been used to for 18 years.
    It has been a year since we broke up and i wonder if i will ever recover. All i want is commitment but i only seem to find unavailable men and as*holes.

    • @Sarkura_cardcapture
      @Sarkura_cardcapture 2 года назад +2

      He Is a pos. Look up breaking soul ties and trauma bonds. All of the men say that . I’m so sorry. You deserve better then what he gave to you

    • @eveyk.1204
      @eveyk.1204 2 года назад +2

      @@Sarkura_cardcapture thank you for your kindness. I really hope to heal and to learn how to love myself more so that i don't end up in these kind of relationships any more. Because i realized it's not that i don't see the red flags but i choose to ignore them. And obviously these men take advantage of it.

    • @Sarkura_cardcapture
      @Sarkura_cardcapture 2 года назад +2

      @@eveyk.1204 he sounds like a narcissist. And that’s what the prey on 😔 I’m truly sorry. But I’m so happy for you that you broke free. And that you are aware that it’s time to start loving yourself more. Because you deserve that and more.
      He manipulated you. That’s on him. Not you.
      I am sorry you went through that. It’s not OK. Be gentle on yourself. And be proud that you walked away. Because that’s not easy. Hugs

    • @eveyk.1204
      @eveyk.1204 2 года назад +1

      @@Sarkura_cardcapture yeah he is definitely a narcissist. He shows all signs of it.
      I looked into breaking soul ties and it is really helpful, thank you. 😊 Wish you the best

  • @npkrn6764
    @npkrn6764 2 года назад +3

    What I find laughable is that the wife is always portrayed as an innocent "poor her" angel. Uh...not always. Women can be just as emotionally (and sometimes physically) abusive towards men which can drive a decent man to cheat - or to actually fall for someone else and have a full blown affair.
    I'm not condoning going outside the marriage and in a perfect world with perfect people, anyone in an unhappy marriage would divorce prior to cheating - but I don't know of anything or anyone perfect in this world so... it happens. Affair shaming is just like any other shaming ... Although it may be difficult, try not to judge anyone or anything too harshly that you haven't experienced yourself - which is a lesson I've learned a few times in my life (albeit in different ways from this situation) and I've become much more empathic as I've gotten older as a result. Maybe there is something you judged harshly in others and then years later, you found yourself in the same or similar position and had to rethink your beliefs.
    One example for me is I used to think it was awful to put an elder in a nursing home. I had that opinion from spending a lot of time growing up at a nursing home visiting my great grandmother. My Grandmother (her daughter) watched me in the Summers while my parents were at work, so we were at the nursing home everyday. My Grandmother thought the care was substandard and was constantly arguing with staff as to how her Mother was (or wasn't) being cared for properly. She even tried to advocate for other patients unrelated to us. It wasn't a great way for me, a kid to spend Summer days but I learned a lot about how our elderly are often neglected. My great-grandmother only HAD to be in one of those places because she was paralyzed and caring for her at home was not an option for my Grandmother - but many others there were seemingly just left there and those who had family, many never came to visit. I vowed to NEVER admit my elders to a nursing home. I always said if at all possible, I'd care for them in my home. Fast forward to many years later and reality hits - an elder of mine had Alzheimer's Disease and caring for someone with that in the later stages in a home is just impossible for many reasons I won't go into here. But suffice it to say, I had to get off my high-horse and eventually admit that elder to a facility. It broke my heart but my overall point is - LIFE WILL TEST YOUR SO-CALLED MORALS AND BELIEFS and sometimes, you'll find yourself involved in situations where control is an illusion and luxury you don't always have. Sure....deciding to have an affair is more of a choice than my example, but in a case where someone REALLY falls in love with someone outside their marriage, that person (or both) certainly doesn't FEEL like they have a choice. The hormones involved in romantic love (such as dopamine, oxytocin, etc...) are akin to the same effect in the brain as heroin or some other drug. There are plenty of arguments to be made in both affairs, and even in my example but again - chances are at some point in all our lives, we'll feel like we are in a no-win, out of control situation and I think we'd all benefit from trying to be understanding instead of tearing others down for choices we ourselves maybe haven't faced yet.

    • @thealphawomanpreneurtv
      @thealphawomanpreneurtv 2 года назад +2

      OMG ! Thank you for this comment. One of the most reasonable comments on this subject I’ve seen yet.

  • @ketosandiego3126
    @ketosandiego3126 2 года назад +19

    I needed you right now so thank you for doing this video. I’ve been in this relationship for 5 1/2 years now with a man who’s been married to his wife for approximately 14 years. His health has been in a bad way for the past year and right now it’s really bad😔 My heart is breaking at the thought of him slipping away and possibly looking at his final days. But now I’m also concerned about what happens after he’s gone? Will his wife start trying to find out who I am and if so, what kind of trouble will she make for me? I’ve loved him all of these years but I’ve also been praying for her health because she’s not too healthy either. So you were absolutely correct… I never sat back and hated her for being his wife. I wanted him to make a stand on what he wanted to do but he never did and now it’s too late. I definitely did not seek this type of relationship. I also believe that things happen for a reason… There are no mistakes/coincidences. He was placed into my life and helped me to get through breast cancer treatments shortly after the affair began. He’s been my rock. And now, I can’t be there for him like I’d like to. I’m in so much pain but to hear you say that you see us and you understand means the world to me right now. Bless you🙏🏾💞

    • @katelondon01
      @katelondon01  2 года назад +2

      Oh honey that sounds really challenging all that you are going through. My prayers and blessing go to you during this challenging time. 💕

    • @pedroquiver9489
      @pedroquiver9489 2 года назад +10

      He could of divorced if he really wanted. Hopefully, you can work on yourself, because he does not want to be with you in the real world. The wife more in likely knows, and you more in likely was not the only one. She is his wife. And he loves her.

    • @edelineambas7473
      @edelineambas7473 2 года назад +6

      Typical reasoning of a ... "no mistakes, no coincidences." Very typical.

    • @edelineambas7473
      @edelineambas7473 2 года назад +9

      The wife doesn't even know about you. Her husband never told anything to her about you. You are not that important to him. Don't worry.

    • @edelineambas7473
      @edelineambas7473 2 года назад +4

      @@katelondon01 Do not take it personally? This kind of relationship has no foundation except lies, dishonesty and deceit. This is a rejection of his role as a husband. What do you mean? If the husband gets well, the two will continue to on their affair? In the end they discover that all the old burdens and issues that came along with the marriage are the same. The players changed, not the game. Teach them to repent, and not do it again.

  • @tishaa9069
    @tishaa9069 2 года назад +4

    I'm the other woman with a guy who has a gf...he's been with her for 2 years. He said he wishes he met me sooner and for some reason he won't break up with her, even tho he says sex is better with me, he's happy with me etc. I didn't realize he had a gf until after I fell for him. Now I'm stuck bc I'm in love with him but idk if he'll ever break up with the gf (they don't live together or have kids together). This is hard

    • @navehhall73
      @navehhall73 Год назад

      Lol 🤣 it's hilarious how these women think their nonnies are so special. Just listen to the men talk. They would have 12 women every week if they could. Right now he has 2 and he's happy with that. Telling both of you what you want to hear so he can keep getting the best of both worlds. This man isn't in love with you. He never asked to marry you nor be exclusive with you. LoL. Women mistake being DESIRED for being CHERISHED. Just because he desires you doesn't mean he will stop chasing other women, put you in a home, give you children, and provide/protect/sacrifice for you. He's perfectly fine hiding you and getting what he wants. Y'all forget that men have the ability to have NO EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT to s3x. You need to watch Mediocre Tutorials and Reviews RUclips channel. Or Pearly Things. You have NO IDEA what this guy actually thinks about you. He is NOT a man of commitment. He is happy having two women at once just like any many would be.

    • @angele4890
      @angele4890 Год назад +4

      Leave girl he doesn't love you. Believe him he is telling you straight you just live in a delusional. You can't be in love with a guy you don't know. 👍

    • @moulee7448
      @moulee7448 Год назад

      Leave him. Period. In the end, you will get the name of a cheater even if your intentions were not to hurt that woman

  • @libertysimpson7666
    @libertysimpson7666 2 года назад +9

    Ohh my gosh so true 😭 it's such a burden and I knew it would have been messy to begin with but I gave into temptation, I can't help but to feel guilty, dumb and used. I believed him when he said they were over, yet I'm a sucker for a bad boy. I just hope time and wine will help heal the situation 🥴

    • @candysunflower9747
      @candysunflower9747 2 года назад

      You're a disgrace. Go work on your morals. He's not a "bad boy" he is lying cheating scumbag that you enabled. "Over" is a divorce.

    • @wendyconnell7998
      @wendyconnell7998 2 года назад

      Did he come back

    • @xxtericexx
      @xxtericexx 2 года назад

      Update

    • @FrankieTheTurtle
      @FrankieTheTurtle Год назад +1

      Girl get therapy.

  • @hungrykitty-yl7mw
    @hungrykitty-yl7mw Год назад +2

    Thankyou Kate, it means a lot to me. This is what I needed. Thankyou for making this video.

    • @katelondon01
      @katelondon01  Год назад

      Hi @Hungrykitty-yl7mw I'm glad you found it valuable 💕

  • @fi_gabor7851
    @fi_gabor7851 2 года назад +4

    Thank you for this…please do more content on this subject

    • @katelondon01
      @katelondon01  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Felicia. Can do! If you have a specific topic on this or something else you would like me to talk on let me know 🙏

    • @candysunflower9747
      @candysunflower9747 2 года назад

      @@katelondon01 You are an absolute disgrace.

  • @pokeking9970
    @pokeking9970 Месяц назад

    Jhg

  • @bassiegola
    @bassiegola Год назад +8

    I guess it’s difficult for those who didn’t know that their affair partner was married because then they didn’t knowingly enter that space. For those who enter knowingly, of course they deserve everything that comes with that and so much more.

  • @txilinasti
    @txilinasti Год назад +1

    I hear so little about the pain that the other woman is causing the wife and children that it is difficult to feel sympathy for her. Whether the other woman intended to cause pain or not or was indifferent the betrayed wife feels unimaginable pain regardless. And this is a point that I hardly ever hear the unfaithful spouse or the mistress talk about. The wife is being hurt by the unfaithful and his mistress. And she didn't choose that but the unfaithful and mistress did. And that is like that however you like it. The irony is that in the long term you end up hurting more than the wife.Not because of the actions of the wife but because of your own actions which you chose to do knowing that was wrong. Yes affairs happen but so do many bad things. But they are not acts of nature. They are deliberate. What did you think was going to happen? Sorry if you feel that you are being judged unfairly. We are in pain unimaginable and we did not cause it nor asked for it. Everybody is in pain. Nobody wins in affairs. Stop it. Stop it now.

    • @katelondon01
      @katelondon01  11 месяцев назад +2

      Thankyou for your share. I don't feel judged. These perspectives are super valuable and I hear them a lot. Your fist line is on point. I think we as society don't hear the other woman's pain in the affair experience often because it is coated in shame and judgment. Women's stories are often "I have no right to grieve, I chose this" "I shouldn't be hurting after all I have done to the wife". The reality is there is pain from all sides of the story. And saying the pain of the betrayed is greater shouldn't immediately delete the possibility for healing for the other woman.

    • @SaystheTruth3
      @SaystheTruth3 11 месяцев назад +1

      Lol! Her story is hers to tell whether you agree with it or not.... We all struggle with something... RUclips has a variety of things to watch & not bash anyone that you don't agree with.
      Ty!

    • @N1kky1111
      @N1kky1111 10 месяцев назад

      @@katelondon01you’re correct. I’m the mistress and he left me with a 2.5 month old at only 2 months to go back to his wife and kids. But he always told me I loved and showed him affection his wife never showed him in the 13 years. They didn’t get married due to love. They got married due to insurance reasons. But regardless of their situation why did he continue to tell me sweet things and manipulate my feelings get me pregnant just to leave in the end? I have feelings too. I’m hurting everyday

  • @HoneyboyDes
    @HoneyboyDes 4 месяца назад

    A married woman in an affair also feels tremendous guilt. The "single - male" affair partner probably doesn't feel any guilt. Thanks for sharing your story and thanks for not condemning the unfaithful. I think they are human too. Who are we to judge!! People do fall out of love, marriage can become boring, and people change. When someone suffers Guilt, it means they are battling with moral values.. but the lure of outside love can be very challenging too. An affair can be as sweet as pie.

  • @exJBnz
    @exJBnz Год назад

    I know a guy that murdered his mistress .. She didnt know who she was getting involved with...IThe truth of the matter if she had never been involved with him it would have never happened ..Dont believe everuthing a married man says...

  • @shanemcgoogan452
    @shanemcgoogan452 2 года назад +12

    None of us should judge. Sometimes the happiness of being in love out weighs the painm

    • @jazzyfizzle7975
      @jazzyfizzle7975 2 года назад +1

      Feeling wanted and adored can be like a drug…

    • @candysunflower9747
      @candysunflower9747 2 года назад

      Everyone should judge. Not enough people judge which is why you low morality poor character people can go around smashing up families and enabling weak, narcissist men.

    • @Sarkura_cardcapture
      @Sarkura_cardcapture 2 года назад +4

      But it’s all lies. Ugh I hate men sometimes
      He’s literally lying to you and betraying his wife. You knowing he is married is being an accomplice to someone’s abuse.
      I bet he says his wife is so mean, always complains, and that they don’t even sleep together. You have no idea how tormenting it is on the other end. The wife is depressed because he is out and she is wondering why she is alone with all the responsibilities of the kids and home. He actually will sleep with her more because of his guilt. But it’s a constant roller coaster of romance love and gaslighting
      Then D-Day hits (discovery day) and he tells her EVERYTHING. Every secret you told him he will tell her. She will ask . Even positions everything. Whatever she wants to know is told.
      Even therapy encourages that. You will be left while he is still with his wife and not lonely.
      I am saying this because As women we need to stick together.

    • @babaib3513
      @babaib3513 2 года назад +1

      I can understand a woman without a future saying this.to ms Shane.

    • @thealphawomanpreneurtv
      @thealphawomanpreneurtv 2 года назад

      True 💯 One of the best comments I’ve seen on this subject.

  • @ericakane6388
    @ericakane6388 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you for being honest about your past experiences. It inspires so many women to share their stories and heal past the pain of affairs

  • @Mental_Alchemist
    @Mental_Alchemist Год назад +2

    I really dont understand how you can lack empathy or sympathy for the wife.. especially if children are involved.
    Like what if he ....based on the way u feel about him right now.....did the exact samething to you.....imagine how much deeper her connection is based on the fact they actually have a home and family together.
    Ngl, its really hard to have sympathy for such seemingly selfish and hurtful behavior. Especially when so many innocent people will be damaged. I have no clue what it feels like to allow my "feelings" to overcome my sense of morals, especially if its going to harm others AND its not a life or death situation. How can it truly be "love" if so many ppl are going to suffer behind it? I know im coming across as judgemental, but i really cannot understand this mentality.
    While it is true that you didnt make vows to her, doesnt she and her family deserve a basic level of human respect and decency?

    • @mikewlfx1045
      @mikewlfx1045 Год назад +1

      as a woman who’s been a side piece, i can’t talk for everyone, but i can at least say i didn’t even know she was the wife for some time, i just thought she’s his ex. and when i found out, i was so madly and stupidly in love with him i just couldn’t leave. i didn’t have any lack of
      sympathy for her, but all i ever heard from him was “ she ‘s horrible” , “ she cheated on me” , “ we’re like two strangers” . i was also 15 when i met him and he was also the first guy i slept
      with. so it’s not the same
      in all cases. also,i think what she’s trying to say is that
      sometimes the other woman can suffer a lot too.

    • @Mental_Alchemist
      @Mental_Alchemist Год назад

      @@mikewlfx1045 That's an unfortunate situation. Some people do lie. But for me, I would think that. Finding out that she was married and she didn't tell me would immediately make me want to cut it off. It would literally Be like finding out she was cheating on me.

  • @sirod6791
    @sirod6791 Год назад +5

    I don’t see it this way. The other woman can care less about the wife or her children. The other woman loyalty and allegiance is to the husband. She did not make vows to the wife as a matter of fact she feels like she is doing the husband a favor. If the husband was to leave the wife she would have no problem with him. Same as a person gets drunk and run some over and leave them on the road. This is how cut throat affairs are. Please be open and honest about the true feelings of the other woman. The other woman uses moral justification to not feel guilt or shame.

    • @navehhall73
      @navehhall73 Год назад

      Exactly 💯

    • @katelondon01
      @katelondon01  Год назад +2

      I'm curious Steph Good, is your perspective of how the "other women" feels coming from experience of being in her shoes?

    • @vkrgfan
      @vkrgfan 10 месяцев назад

      I think the women you described definitely exist, there are a lot of Narcissistic and Sociopathic women that play power games like that to stroke their egoes and they do get involved with married men deliberately.
      However, the fault also lays on the husband his loyalty to his wife and his internal moral compass.
      If he is consciously having an affair then he is just as guilty.
      There are women however, who were duped by narcissistic men and fell for the lies. Similar to how Nigerian Prince promising you a millions dollars if you provide them an information online.
      So they are great con artists and psychopathic players so I can see how a a lonely, desperate woman would fall for that.

  • @angele4890
    @angele4890 2 года назад +4

    Be accountable for yourselves ladies and if your in a relationship with a taken man get out of it, your ignoring your need to mature and face whatever your trying to block out inside you.
    You are not a good person right now and you need to accept that. You made this choice and need to be responsible for not only hurting others but yourself. Own it and be the good person you want to be. Shine that light and resolve the real problem that led you here in the first place, do not fall into a victim mindset your only stopping yourself from maturing into a healthy adult.
    Take care of yourself ❤️
    From a
    Past mistress.

  • @mellissiad7281
    @mellissiad7281 Год назад +1

    Lol I’m sorry if u know he is married I shouldn’t be getting involved .. I won’t say all I want to here but I think the first person said it clearly .. it’s the cheating spouse that’s the problem
    She shouldn’t feel proud of herself that’s for sure 😮

  • @chellieholden3313
    @chellieholden3313 2 года назад +7

    We shouldn't judge but not all are innocent some are narcissistic women. They can break a family and be so cruel 💔 and just lie. They are to blame like your partner 50/50. If they don't know that's different but women should respect 💯 other women.

    • @candysunflower9747
      @candysunflower9747 2 года назад

      Correct. So many narcissist women out there with low character and morals accepting the married status of men to feel special.

    • @Sarkura_cardcapture
      @Sarkura_cardcapture 2 года назад

      Yes! this!

    • @navehhall73
      @navehhall73 Год назад

      ?? Doesn't matter what you think of his wife. Never ever ever step foot into the marriage bed. The Bible says, the marriage bed must be honored by all. This is for your own safety. Untold demonic activity and curses get opened up by having sex outside of marriage and engaging in adultery. It's very simple

  • @queenlli6587
    @queenlli6587 2 года назад +2

    Making out/ kissing with married guy is considered as mistress?

  • @KseniaPeppiatt
    @KseniaPeppiatt 2 месяца назад

    I was in the “other woman” shoes few times. What I felt? I felt nothing towards wife /s and kids. Not my business. It’s men’s responsibility to care about their wives and kids wellbeing.
    I enjoyed my experiences. They were full of Adrenalin, good sex, fun, adventure. I also dated other men, not married ones, at the same time.
    Affairs with married men have their time, place and purpose. Sometimes it’s just what a girl needs.

  • @noellaabramovic2334
    @noellaabramovic2334 Год назад +1

    Are you kidding? How old are you, talking about affairs