@@BlackberryTitties Wow your trash who's talking about forgiving George Floyd it was the fact that he should not have been murdered you could've used any other situation your the very definition of an ignorant black woman
@@BlackberryTitties tf does a dead man who died of police brutality gotta do with Tyra banks purposely humiliating a bunch women for entertainment? And the laughing emojis…. very disrespectful n unnecessary
Tyra is a beautiful woman but she is a MEAN GIRL. Just because you were treated bad doesn’t mean you can BULLY others. We don’t have to forgive her especially since she refuses to hold herself accountable.
I remember when I was in Jr high my friends were really into that show ANTM and there was something about her that I really did not like. Then she screamed at that one model for not "reacting" the way Tyra thought she should was pretty revealing to me and I never forgot that moment even after all these years.
@@eloisepamela9107 Thats why when I was in JR I didn't like her, I just could not put it into words at that time. I noticed something about the way she talked to people was offputting to me and the way she looked down at the contestants. It always seemed to me like she was hiding something which she was since she is a mean girl who tries to pretend like she cares about these girls.
@@LifestylewithAbby ain't nobody mad, staying mad or loosing sleep behind no Tyra "forehead" Banks chile she never did nothing spectacular that made you say WOW! She was just lucky and was in the right circles hell probably slept with the right powerful people I wouldn't be surprised and got herself a talk show and a reality show. Let her continue to shine.
You’re definitely right about some on the things we used to see on tv that was very problematic and we got used to it at it was the norm hopefully we keep learning as humans and grow to be more kind to each other and aware.
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Not to mention most people thought of it as the norm because a lot of shady stuff goes on in the background and so we used to think me personally in a few of the people I know that it was to prepare them for sometimes possibly being humiliated by your peers and things like that cuz she also taught them how to speak and not point fingers or shame somebody things like that we should forgive her she's learned I think
She doesn’t deserve our forgiveness. She needs to get every single girl in existence that is still living that has ever attempted at top model, get them in an auditorium and individually cut every girl a check and turn over every penny she has ever earned over to these victims for exploiting them. She does not deserve anything as she abused her position and allowed herself to claim that it’s beyond her control and never call out or speak out against Ken Mok or these evil wicked investors for their crimes against every contestant. This is extremely dark deception and the show was 100% fraudulent incarnate. We don’t care about her child hood. We don’t care what she thinks she claims she earned. These celebrities are sick, And if they are victims then why are they still actively participating in the deception and still eating off the hands of those whom are in positions of power, principalities. These are walking dead creatures. Sorry Kourine, but she is a walking dedication to baphomet the amalgamation of sin and a symbol of worship to the material realm. She doesn’t deserve to be considered black or a sister. Tyra is Uncle Tom sucking the toes of the rulers and has never been anything other than a caucasian women with bronzer. Get over it.
I am not invalidating anything you guys say but I will say this forgiveness isn't just for her it's also for us if we keep holding on to it what does that do for us you know what I mean basically when they say from give and let go that means you don't have to be around the person or deal with the person or any of those other matters you don't even have to invest in this person you know what I mean if we continue to not forgive her we're just as bad as her because she hasn't forgiven a lot of things and that's what just perpetuates her mean girl mentality
Tyra strikes me as a Narcissist. Everything has to be about her! I remember when she had her talkshow how she could "relate" to all the guests because something similar happened to her lool.. Me, me, me, me!
I don't agree with that word narcissist because people use it wrong all the time, but you are spot on here. Tyra has narcissistic personality disorder traits forreal!
I was about to post exactly this. I couldn't stand ANTM growing up because Tyra reminded me of a kid who bullied other children when no adults were around, then claimed to be the victim
so dont black people or even non black have the ability to share similar experiences. You guys kill me with your hypocisy and sensitivities...get over yourselves
@@Chuck_EL I highly doubt tyra is envious of darkskinned women. That's a huge reach. No light skinned women with green eyes would want to be darkskinned. But whatever to feel better about yourselves. But seriously, that's delusional
I had hair trauma/hair abuse from my mom so I always cried when the girls were forced to change their hair and I thought Tyra and her clique were very mean about it sometimes especially when they knew they weren't going to keep a girl...
@@TrollBot. Baby Tyra WAS the viciousness in the industry. Real modeling has consent forms and everything. The way they portrayed it on the show was just cruel and unrealistic.
@@gummy5862 No thats exactly how it was and how it still kinda is now. She was just showing people thats EXACTLY the industry was so stop putting all the blame on Tyra when there were other REAL vicious models out there.
@@TrollBot. No, real models have spoken about the show. You'd never be randomly pushed into a nude photo shoot or randomly be forced to cut your hair a certain way, it's always your choice with minimal pressure, at least less than the show.
@@gummy5862 Well yeah now you can't do that but youll lose a job if you don't comply with the modeling industry needs. The show is nothing compared to real life modeling the contestants on the show only experienced a small amount of what horrible things the modeling industry does. If your up and coming model its hell trust me Ive worked in this business why do you think so many models have spoken out about the Industry. You have no idea how ugly it was back then and how it is still.
Personally I think people should forgive when they want to or are ready to forgive. Not when other people tell them they should forgive. Leave people to make their own choices on forgiveness it is not for us to tell others when to forgive.
She doesn’t deserve our forgiveness. She needs to get every single girl in existence that is still living that has ever attempted at top model, get them in an auditorium and individually cut every girl a check and turn over every penny she has ever earned over to these victims for exploiting them. She does not deserve anything as she abused her position and allowed herself to claim that it’s beyond her control and never call out or speak out against Ken Mok or these evil wicked investors for their crimes against every contestant. This is extremely dark deception and the show was 100% fraudulent incarnate. We don’t care about her child hood. We don’t care what she thinks she claims she earned. These celebrities are sick, And if they are victims then why are they still actively participating in the deception and still eating off the hands of those whom are in positions of power, principalities. These are walking dead creatures. Sorry Kourine, but she is a walking dedication to baphomet the amalgamation of sin and a symbol of worship to the material realm. She doesn’t deserve to be considered black or a sister. Tyra is Uncle Tom sucking the toes of the rulers and has never been anything other than a caucasian women with bronzer. Get over it.
I couldn’t agree with you more. As a former fan of Tyra, it took years for me to realize she was the ultimate mean girl. And the worst kind because she tried to come across as wanting to empower and build up the very aspiring models that she actually tormented. And her transparent fakeness is still apparent on Dancing With the Stars -which I stopped watching after she became the host.
Growing up as a kid I greatly admired Tyra. She was like a real life size barbie doll to me haha 😄. And ANTM was my show. But I'm so glad as an adult people called out her treatment towards those models.
And if you watch part 2 I think it's signifies that she's learned a few things it's weird her character is different but just don't know how to explain it besides more grown up I guess yet still the same life-size I guess you can say type of movie we would be expecting
Remember this was also a time when there were not a lot of black models on the scene so when Tyra came about a lot of agencies would say, “oh we already have a black model we don’t need another” both Tyra and Naomi speak about this and I think this is a topic that could help explain the tension between the two models.
I personally believe Tyra when it comes to the Naomi situation. I definitely think Naomi was mean to her. I don't think she should've brought her on her show to hash it out. But I do think it happened.
exactly. RUclipss video series on the history of Black models spoke about the whitewashing of fashion shows and pitting models against each other for the few jobs available.
@@lavendersunsets7066 i dont. Naomi was way higher in the hierarchy than Tyra by the time Tyra came around. She was so busy and still YOUNG. A young, successful, beautiful, British woman like Naomi had no time to coddle & be über friendly with Tyra JUST because she was another black model. If anything Tyra was just butthurt that Naomi did not urgently try to befriend her. Entitled behavior.
I remember when she shared how Naomi bullied her when they were both coming up. She invited Naomi on her talk show and they talked it out. I thought that was it, then a few years ago… she made a snide comment about Naomi, saying “I’m still afraid of her.” I got extremely annoyed because now it seemed like she was purposely trying to CONTINUE painting Naomi as a villain. I thought “Girl! You confronted her, spoke your truth and she owned it! Why are you bringing this up again and trying to turn everyone against her again!” At that point, Tyra was just trying to be a victim again.
That was my reaction as well. I kinda admired Tyra until she invited Naomi to her show merely to call her out. I thought Tyra was unprofessional, tacky & petty. It's one thing to voice your issue, but to go on and on about it revealed a bit of an obsession. I wish her success & prosperity, but I lost my appreciation for Tyra.
If Naomi did say that she would never be me, then she was right. Naomi is still fine and walking runways at 53 yrs. No one was calling for Tyra at the end of her career because she couldn’t fit the clothes.
I completely understand Naomi ignoring her. One thing I know is that you can’t go from “Popular mean girl” to groveling for approval by another person. Tyra was passive aggressive and was definitely the friend to act funny with you when dudes or other popular people are around 🤷🏽♀️
Plus ppl take those who aren’t conventionally friendly (and people pleasing) as bad people. Look, Naomi was there to go to work and go home. She’s not kiki’ing with no one. What other models from her era have shared stories of brunch dates and mall trips with Naomi?
She's never apologized for anything not for the trauma she caused not for the racism she promoted showing she clearly has no remorse and does not care. She hasn't taken accountability and asked for forgiveness therefore she doesn't deserve any.
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I recall Janice Dickinson used to be a judge there at times & all buddy buddy with Tyra on ANTM. Then Janice had some show where she told a girl who wanted to model to get a nose job or she’d fire her. Mind you the girl was homeless. So Janice being mean & Tyra and her being buddies makes sense. They both shared that mean girl spirit !
Janice Dickinson just mean period! She's definitely a bi*ch! But one thing about Janice, she is straight up in your face and will let you know how she feels & if she don't like ya' she'll let you know. So her & Tyra is different in that aspect. Tyra is a mean girl on tha low that comes off as if she's better than you and will give you a fake smile but try to shade you at the same time.
You are not telling the story correctly. She told the girl needed a nose job to work in the industry (which was true) but she never forced her and didn't end their contract for that. The homeless girl had a bad attitude and was a no-call no-show for an appointment they had. That's why their working relationship ended. Furthermore, Tyra and Janice were most definitely NOT friends. Janice was on drugs and was unprofessional. They hated each other; and Tyra had her fired from the show.
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@@rodb66 I watched that season as well. EVA Was there to win So Yaya's behavior towards Eva was like water flowing off of a ducks back. Yaya was competitive And so was Eva may the best man WIN.. Both are BEAUTIFUL..
@@godiseverything1482 Yep. Both are doing quite well now and I think they may be friends. I don't know what happened to the white blonde girl who turned on Eva.
I think Yaya did have a superiority complex . but the judges telling her to tone down her Afrocentric style was disgusting . her response to that was not condescending in my eyes .
The truth is, Tyra has always been that bully that she was in middle school. She never really changed, she just learned how to mask it better. One thing that I can respect about Naomi is that she owns her "divaness." Tyra is just as much of a diva (if not, worse) but she pretends to be righteous.
I love Naomi (“you are NOT on my level! You will never BE on my level!!”). Tyra is fake. I remember on her talk show about colorism, she was talking about paper bag parties and said she would not pass the paper bag test. What a crock. It’s like why try to act like something you’re not? We can see your skin tone.
I just don't like her. Her humour is cringe, she has been involved with a shady MLM business, not to talk about her behaviour on ANTM... And the victim narrative about Naomi. 🙄🙄 I don't know if she has learnt something from all of this, but I doubt... I definitely don't hate her, but I don't like her neither. My opinion.
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I agree, I hope she has changed because I never realized how toxic she was on the show. But now after watching it over again and hearing how she talked to the girls on the show , just ugh’ I can’t see her the same .
@@baddiezone She has changed even said that herself years ago on her talk show and even hashed her beef with Naomi. Also she does a lot of charity work for black females but no one wants to talk about that
I call bs on Tyra being bullied. Like you said Naomi was a girls girl and still is! Tyra’s jealousy came out on her show ! Especially towards other black models! It was offensive and appalling.
What I want to know is why she behaves like that?? I mean she was just like those girls back in her time as a young woman in the modeling industry and she's treating those girls like they ain't nothing
@@juanitamorgan5475 I think she’s jealous because they’re young and fresh. I could read between the lines on her show and she’s been through a lot relationship wise as well. I remember her talking about begging men to stay. She’s beautiful on the outside but no beauty can fix an ugly spirit. Plus she was so self involved on the show. She made every topic about herself
Tyra enjoyed torturing the models on the show and pretended they will make amazing photos, push through the pain, channel all that anger, lol! Typical narcissist.
My mom and grandma met Tyra at the grove and she wasn’t the nicest. I know she could have been just having an off day but my family was really respectful and now seeing this kinda makes me think a little. 👀
@@tshidi129 It is a shame. I applaud her for being self aware and admitting in an interview she was a bully, but unfortunately she still ended up hurting others. I think sometimes too she was obtuse about how the way she spoke to people could hurt them, because even though she is bubbly, she is very blunt.
Tyra created a multi empire business. Naomi is following her steps now. She did it with The Face. She’s not just “pretty” she’s literally a supermodel. Not everyone wants to be a Naomi.
@@felixcastillo7336 And Naomi was already a Multi-Billionaire by that point and created her own empire long before Tyra did. Even Iman created her own empire way before that too. Also Tyra has said that the reason she learned how to walk was because of Naomi. She walked down the runway just like Naomi for awhile before she discovered her own style. So yes Felix she did wanna be like Naomi for quite some time. That pretty much just shows you that Naomi Campbell truly set the standard for being a hard-working supermodel and she truly did lay the foundation for that. Without legendary models like Naomi Campbell Tyra's entire career in the industry would never exist. Point, Blank, Period. 👑💖
@UCyNZlvZ3MhuIpOrXHGTNK8w That’s not true. Naomi has never done any empire. Naomi has followed Tyra’s footsteps with so many things. The reality shows like the face was something she created after ANTM. There is this mini series about Black Models “Supreme Models” in which even Iman, Veronica Webb, Joan Smalls, among others said in the documentary that Tyra Banks is the one who did it better. Yes I understand Naomi is a really important figure for dark skin people but come on! Don’t try to bash Tyra. I knew Tyra way before Naomi and I know Naomi was there before but Tyra def put the fashion industry into the masses. Naomi couldn’t. Tyra had her own talk show 15 years ago and then Naomi had her own RUclips channel. All your facts are a joke. Tyra has way more money than Naomi anyways. She worths way more.
@@felixcastillo7336 Look Tyra, I know this is rather difficult for you to understand but just know that no matter what you do in order to keep you and your career up float and stay relevant you still won't ever reach the level of Naomi and all the other legendary supermodels from that golden era. Nor will you ever have the longevity and impact that Naomi has to this very day. So why not just calm down with the burner accounts and actually go and apologize to every single girl you bullied and traumatized on your shows. ☺️
I was lucky enough to attend the Tyra Show back when it was filming and she was the rudest diva on set and off the screen. We were all kinda scared of her. I also refuse to believe she was bullied at all. I think it’s a victim narrative she made up to get sympathy points. Remember how she forced Naomi Campbell to apologize to her about “bullying” and Naomi was like that never happened sis lmfaooo
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Unfortunately we can un-see the time Campbell went off at a fellow model judge telling the judge not that she can’t compare to her career and that the fellow judge would never be her ! So It is obviously in her nature to say those kinda things .
Honestly Karine, I'm guilty for not seeing this myself💀 I love Tyra a lot as a young kid esp ANTM. I'd use to think it was normal with her behavior and I still do love her but I can find of see what you're saying too. Thank you for the video Karine hope that you are enjoying the holidays and doing well 🎆
The problem it it WAS normal for the industry. That’s the point of the show. To prepare non experienced models function in a tough industry. Tyra said multiple times she too dealt with a lot of what the girls did. Not saying it’s right but that was the industry. I think as most things from the past, details get lost. That said…this show will NEVER work today lmaooo. Even when I was a kid I was shocked at the some of the shit they had the girls do. Like the show was nuts for real 😂
Tyra is the most toxic model of her era. Tried to paint Naomi as the mean girl but it was Tyra who was always the mean girl. All the ANTM contestants, hosts and crew have all come forward saying how toxic she was. She's forever cancelled with me.
Has everyone forgotten the reputation of Naomi in the industry? Remember the accusations of her throwing something at her maid in NY whom she accused of stealing something from her? Didn’t she had to do some community hours? And Naomi did say on her own TV show to a contestant YOU WILL NEVER BE ME etc…I believe there is a little truth to what Tyra said. I think that both women were misunderstood because they had to fight in the industry of modeling to make it to the top and as such be labeled “mean” or “angry” black women. And the tabloids did pitch them against each other as they STILL do it today with female rappers Nicki vs Cardi B vs Meghan the Stallion or Doja Cat check her “Woma” lyrics.
Right. Also, I believe people forget how poorly Black models were treated back then. Tyra and Naomi were made to feel like they were competing for the token Black girl position. It’s only been a few years ago that the fashion industry has recognized Black models. It’s just a lot to take into account when reviewing both ladies actions.
@@brielax4441 Exactly, not to forget that people in the US liked to hate on Tyra. Wasn’t she labeled a gold digger because she dated or went on a date with Tigger Wood or John Singleton? I think all that made her want to succeed as a business woman. And to those who say Tyra has to apologize to Yaya etc…because she “exploited” the models well you live in a “capitalist” society! Yaya got opportunity just like Eva Marcel etc. Maybe the same people should go to the producer of Growing up Hip Hop or RHOA etc…
Naomi hit her Hispanic assistant in her face with her cell phone she didn't accuse her of stealing she just did it because the girl didn't do something right and Noami flew into a rage Naomi was very mean and nasty the poor girl had to have stitches in her face they showed her wound it was a bloody mess
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@@sonotu2855 People abusing Position I try not to used the word POWER Because I feel like no has Power over anyone. You do what you do because the position that you are in allows you to believe that you can, And that it is ok. That woman was probably scared of losing her job.
I don’t hate her but I was not one of the people she hurt -directly or indirectly. I do admire some of her characteristics and achievements but I think it’s still important to recognize where she went wrong and the things that she did that were not okay. She seemed to like shocking people to an unhealthy degree and manipulating their emotions. It was exploitative. I don’t know how much she’s grown since then but I haven’t seen anything to prove she has. I hope she has a desire to heal some of the pain she’s caused people on her way to the top. It would be cool to see her admit her wrongs and seek their forgiveness. I wish her and her son the best.
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Just because she had those beautiful green eyes coupled with her gorgeous caramel skin I think she let her rare beauty get to her head. Other models are much more down to earth about why they were models but Tyra seemed to really think it was more than looks. I think when models called her on this she got upset. It’s like hunny you’re a beautiful, tall woman with rare features. You won the genetic lottery that’s why you’re a model!
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Naomi is incredibly insecure which is why she lashes out at Tyra, at Nicole Trunfio, at assistants. She felt threatened by another black supermodel because in many shows back then - very few black models were cast with the exception of YSL.
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I remember watching that episode on the Tyra Show with KS. Tyra was definitely bothered & didn’t wanna admit that they both were with the same men, just not Tyra’s boyfriend… other men too. They were within the same circles & Tyra going in on KS like that just exposed Tyra more & what she was trying to “defend” & hide.
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Man I love Jay Manuel. Could you also do a video of him lol. Tyra was the real life mean girl-Beautiful, Privileged and insensitive. Loved her ANTM, the Tyra show and Lifesize, I Loved the 2000s
I believe Naomi, Tyra is a bully. She did everything she could to frame Naomi as "bad person", and even get her into her own Tyra's show to bash her in front of hew own (Tyra's) fans in audience. That was so vile! Not to mention how her ANTM series treated the contestants, it was borderline abuse.
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Tyra Banks is still viewed as a super model and we will always love and support her❤ Just like we love and support Naomi Campbell. Naomi admitted to being jealous of Tyra's mother being with her. Unfortunately, 'some' people love to see Black women fight. This is why you never fight or argue with another Black woman. The key is to be supportive, respectful, and loving❤
You gotta understand Hollywood is it’s own bubble. I lived in Cali and everything is about how you look and she was just saying what she knows. The outside world are two completely worlds.
Growing up in Europe, its just so hard for me to imagine anyone being bullied for being skinny 😅 And I noticed that a lot of celebrities were bullied for being skinny, having thick eyelashes etc
I honestly will always love Tyra. She was my idol when I was like 4 lol. I know all the controversial stuff she did on the show but she always has a special place in my heart haha.
Banks always had a smart head on her shoulders, but from what I gleaned from this awesome video is that she was very vindictive and stubborn. If she was trying to make a point with the aspiring models, it wasn't vetted through a group that wasn't sycophantic to her. She's very successful that she can start ventures on her own. Is she smart and beautiful? Yes. Is she a good bet to invest in? Yes. Is she suceptible to making mistakes? Yes. My wife and I personally gave up on Dancing with the Stars. She is far cry from the original host. She is not a bad person at all, but good grief, she needs someone brave and tougher than her to tell her, "No... that's a stupid and terrible idea."
Tyra is a legend . We’ll give her that. She was funny on Fresh Prince. Her attitude: horrible. Yes we all deserve forgiveness but that doesn’t mean I have to like her. Nobody can do a catwalk like Naomi that’s why she was mentioned in Beyoncé song. Tyra made history and is definitely an icon, but they way she treated people and try play victim when clearly your the mean girl…I can’t seem to get over that.
I watched the show & realized how tough the modeling world was. I forgot about the show because it was not my day to day reality. As a child I was introduced to soap operas & when I went to college I stopped because my life was not going to be a soap opera.
I hope Tyra has a redemption arc. Yes, problematic, but let’s give her the flowers that are due. She was bullied by Naomi, Tyra was just showing us what it was behind the scenes.
She’s a woman of her generation and she acts that way, celebrities didn’t have it easy back then it was the get up and do it no matter how you feel kind of era.
If we’re giving Tyra grace, we’ve got to give it to Naomi too. Not just because Tyra was a “reformed mean girl” in high school, but because in the fashion industry they often pit the Blk female models against each other, and tell them that there can only be one at the top. The cattiness and jealousy were manufactured and Tyra should have known better and not fed into it.
Hurt people hurt people! The fact that she had been bullied at school didn’t gave her the right to do the same things because she knew the hurt. I hope she learns from her mistakes.
I was a huge fan of Tyra's until I saw this. Wow! This was eye opening. I think Naomi handled herself really well. Tyra needs to own up to her mistakes.
Woww grew up on Tyra. Well I’m the younger millennial. But I love seeing Tyra but now that I’m older I see and go back to the interview she did to Naomi , and omg 😢. That was uncalled for and petty and humiliating.
Its very hard to defend Tyra. Her modelling tv show was not credible at all. It humiliated and made the models do unreleastic challenges that models do not have to do. Her high fashion modelling work was very brief. She did very few seasons. She never walked for Versace and looking back she was not a supermodel.
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I think Karl Lagerfeld clowned the show years ago and while I’m not for gatekeeping I think he did have a point. A lot of the modeling agencies didn’t really take that show or the contestants seriously and a handful of them had successful careers outside of America. She definitely wasn’t Naomi level supermodel. I think she got big being a Victoria secret model
@@ComaLies225 Yeah Karl would know being in the industry for decades. Her show was really flawed. In reality the hardest part for the model is the 'go sees' aka casting calls. Showing her book and usually the person (client or representative) will say thank you after looking at it. You rarely get rejected at the casting call flat out. That is considered unprofessional. But the model will not know if she has been accepted either for that client. And it can be draining the uncertainty. Models are never directly pitted against each other at casting calls. They are seen one at a time. What tyra did was pit the girls directly against each other for her approval and to 'win'. They had to complete 'unrealistic challenges'. It was a farce, a complete joke. She lost all credibility as a model or mentor who had knowledge of the industry. As far as her modelling career, she went into acting (fresh prince), presenting and courting the media to become relevant and a celebrity. Her profile in fashion had sunk so she wasn't seen in high fashion layouts or runways like the true golden era of supermodels 1990 till 1998. She is the 'media model' like hiedi Klum mostly know for swimsuits pictures. Heidi who did very little modelling work too. Both turned themselves into celebrities in order to get work.
When I watched the show back then I assumed they were in on it, just like how reality tv is like. I assumed it was just acting to make it entertaining, but the girls actually came out and said they were bamboozled and treated horribly, that’s when my outlook towards Tyra changed.
There were always people who found the behavior on Top Model problematic. There's always been people who did not like bullying and cruelty. It's just that now we can connect with one another much easier due to social media. More people are standing up instead of just watching one or two people fighting against abuse. More people now have the courage to speak up and out. Also there was a chat page dedicated to Top Model online back then and when you read through the comments you would see people calling Tyra, the other judges and certain cast members out when they were being abusive and cruel.
Like the video, don't feel bad for Tyra. As long as she's not feeding into that toxic culture anymore. Unfortunately, that's the way it used to be...🤷♀️
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Everyone calling Tyra a mean girl but Naomi was too. She has actual assault charges to her name, yet that is never acknowledged or brought up. Both women had their flaws. Both are trailblazers. Dogpiling on one for their "mean girl" traits while excusing the other is so backwards and hypocritical.
Seeing her old catwalk videos and pictures was amazing- she’s absolutely Gorgeous!😧😧 I’m from Europe and she’s not that Delius here but really I am amazed
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I absolutely love Tyra. I collected every mag cover she was on. I thought the series ANTM was a masterclass for anyone looking to model and do photoshoots. The criticism was something I went through at art school in order to make me better, so i thought it would be good for the aspiring models as well Looking back, some of the behavior was problematic, and I'm sure was manufactured to increase reality show ratings. the models' conditions were unacceptable. I think the show got worse and the judges got meaner after Miss Jae, Nigel Barker, and Jay emmanuel left.
Naomi is notoriously cruel to her assistants. This has been well documented in court cases. Its not a stretch to believe she saw Tyra as a threat and lashed out at her. I believe Tyra is telling the truth about her experience. I also believe Tyra was honestly preparing her contestants for real world experiences. The industry is (allegedly) very misogynistic and cruel and it appears as though Tyra was giving them a master class in potential situations they needed to be ready for. Did things get out of hand sometimes? I don't know. I wasn't there. Sounds like Naomi was nice and was actually NOT preparing the contestants for the real world... that would be less competition for her, and she obviously doesn't like competition, lol.
No Drama but it's called Tokenism You single out one person and then there's only so much work for that role . not many British models made the cover of Elle on 1987 so for a blk girl from South London of Jamaican heritage we could really use the good rep and bask in the glory.The moment Naomi becomes problematic nobody wants to hire Jamaican girl
Tyra Banks was one of the original Supermodels of the 90's . She was and is amazingly beautiful. Long gone the time when real Supermodels made their mark in Fashion.
Naomi gives the vibes that she wanted to be the only pretty black “it woman” 💀 I’m glad she accepted accountability even though she didn’t remember saying those things, that’s real personal growth.
I always felt that the concept of top model forcing young aspiring models to suffer the way Tyra and other models did was ludicrous. Why would you want to make other people suffer and put people through the bad things you went through? Instead of trying to change the way the industry was she used it and them to make money. Disgusting.
Truth on how people during that time didn’t have these views and standards they have of the show now, they loved it and consumed it and didn’t see anything wrong with the tactics, probably thought, “I guess this is how it goes in modeling “ and moved on, so it’s quite hypocritical of them to now be trying to cancel her, also not agreeing with the tactics of the show, a lot of them. Anyway, I love how gracious you are with people and not trying to be “exposing “ and shaming people . Lovely and keep it up.
I feel like both Naomi and Tyra had a mean side to them e.g. When Naomi threw a phone at someone, but I feel like Top model revealed a very toxic side of Tyra, but we all have had toxic sides of ourselves and we learn and grow.
Watch Naomi Campble flight logs! why I think she was actually a victim 👀 NEXT ruclips.net/video/ZEpwqCV8p28/видео.html
Have you reviewed YAYA DECOSTA. …yet? That’s a BLACK BEAUTY!
*also...PUHLEEEEZE mention in the Naomi video how she MENTORS all the current Black Models.* 🖤
*i understand & agree with what you said about Naomi's decorum during the interview. Tyra wanted a 'Gotcha' moment. she tried it. but failed.* 👎🏽🚫🙅🏽
A victim who created other victims yes
Naomi was a victim her mother was her perpetrator which is why she envy’s Tyra and her mother relationship. Story for another day y’all 😎
Why do we have to forgive her when she’s never publicly apologized about the shady and humiliating things she’s done? This ain’t no “we” thing.
I mean it’s not that serious! But y’all forgive people like George Floyd! 🤪🤣🤭
@@BlackberryTitties Wow your trash who's talking about forgiving George Floyd it was the fact that he should not have been murdered you could've used any other situation your the very definition of an ignorant black woman
@@BlackberryTitties tf does a dead man who died of police brutality gotta do with Tyra banks purposely humiliating a bunch women for entertainment? And the laughing emojis…. very disrespectful n unnecessary
We should as the same way we “forgive” more problematic celebs.
@KA; Right! As far as I know she hasn't asked for our forgiveness. She's in her multi-million dollar mansion living happily ever after.
Tyra is a beautiful woman but she is a MEAN GIRL. Just because you were treated bad doesn’t mean you can BULLY others. We don’t have to forgive her especially since she refuses to hold herself accountable.
I remember when I was in Jr high my friends were really into that show ANTM and there was something about her that I really did not like. Then she screamed at that one model for not "reacting" the way Tyra thought she should was pretty revealing to me and I never forgot that moment even after all these years.
@@funeo618and you have been randomly selected to shut up 🤫
Her Mean tone of speech to those she was training!!! …caused me to stop listening to her programs.
@@eloisepamela9107 Thats why when I was in JR I didn't like her, I just could not put it into words at that time. I noticed something about the way she talked to people was offputting to me and the way she looked down at the contestants. It always seemed to me like she was hiding something which she was since she is a mean girl who tries to pretend like she cares about these girls.
Compared her, Naomi Campbell is a Saint.
Until she apologizes to Yaya, Danielle, and all of the other ANTM models she exploited, I'll stay mad at her.
I forgot what she did to Yaya.
Whatever, stay mad and watch Queen Tyra continue to make history 😂.
I want her to apologize to superhead
Stay mad 😂
@@LifestylewithAbby ain't nobody mad, staying mad or loosing sleep behind no Tyra "forehead" Banks chile she never did nothing spectacular that made you say WOW! She was just lucky and was in the right circles hell probably slept with the right powerful people I wouldn't be surprised and got herself a talk show and a reality show. Let her continue to shine.
You’re definitely right about some on the things we used to see on tv that was very problematic and we got used to it at it was the norm hopefully we keep learning as humans and grow to be more kind to each other and aware.
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Not to mention most people thought of it as the norm because a lot of shady stuff goes on in the background and so we used to think me personally in a few of the people I know that it was to prepare them for sometimes possibly being humiliated by your peers and things like that cuz she also taught them how to speak and not point fingers or shame somebody things like that we should forgive her she's learned I think
She doesn’t deserve our forgiveness. She needs to get every single girl in existence that is still living that has ever attempted at top model, get them in an auditorium and individually cut every girl a check and turn over every penny she has ever earned over to these victims for exploiting them. She does not deserve anything as she abused her position and allowed herself to claim that it’s beyond her control and never call out or speak out against Ken Mok or these evil wicked investors for their crimes against every contestant.
This is extremely dark deception and the show was 100% fraudulent incarnate.
We don’t care about her child hood. We don’t care what she thinks she claims she earned.
These celebrities are sick, And if they are victims then why are they still actively participating in the deception and still eating off the hands of those whom are in positions of power, principalities.
These are walking dead creatures.
Sorry Kourine, but she is a walking dedication to baphomet the amalgamation of sin and a symbol of worship to the material realm.
She doesn’t deserve to be considered black or a sister.
Tyra is Uncle Tom sucking the toes of the rulers and has never been anything other than a caucasian women with bronzer.
Get over it.
I am not invalidating anything you guys say but I will say this forgiveness isn't just for her it's also for us if we keep holding on to it what does that do for us you know what I mean basically when they say from give and let go that means you don't have to be around the person or deal with the person or any of those other matters you don't even have to invest in this person you know what I mean if we continue to not forgive her we're just as bad as her because she hasn't forgiven a lot of things and that's what just perpetuates her mean girl mentality
Tyra strikes me as a Narcissist. Everything has to be about her! I remember when she had her talkshow how she could "relate" to all the guests because something similar happened to her lool.. Me, me, me, me!
I don't agree with that word narcissist because people use it wrong all the time, but you are spot on here. Tyra has narcissistic personality disorder traits forreal!
I was about to post exactly this. I couldn't stand ANTM growing up because Tyra reminded me of a kid who bullied other children when no adults were around, then claimed to be the victim
@@0SilentStone0 Tyra is definitely envious of darker skinned black woman I don't understand how no one picked up on that honestly
so dont black people or even non black have the ability to share similar experiences. You guys kill me with your hypocisy and sensitivities...get over yourselves
@@Chuck_EL I highly doubt tyra is envious of darkskinned women. That's a huge reach. No light skinned women with green eyes would want to be darkskinned. But whatever to feel better about yourselves. But seriously, that's delusional
I had hair trauma/hair abuse from my mom so I always cried when the girls were forced to change their hair and I thought Tyra and her clique were very mean about it sometimes especially when they knew they weren't going to keep a girl...
But these girls knew what they werw getting themselves into too! And Tyra just wanted to show them how vicious the industry was back then!
@@TrollBot. Baby Tyra WAS the viciousness in the industry. Real modeling has consent forms and everything. The way they portrayed it on the show was just cruel and unrealistic.
@@gummy5862 No thats exactly how it was and how it still kinda is now. She was just showing people thats EXACTLY the industry was so stop putting all the blame on Tyra when there were other REAL vicious models out there.
@@TrollBot. No, real models have spoken about the show. You'd never be randomly pushed into a nude photo shoot or randomly be forced to cut your hair a certain way, it's always your choice with minimal pressure, at least less than the show.
@@gummy5862 Well yeah now you can't do that but youll lose a job if you don't comply with the modeling industry needs. The show is nothing compared to real life modeling the contestants on the show only experienced a small amount of what horrible things the modeling industry does. If your up and coming model its hell trust me Ive worked in this business why do you think so many models have spoken out about the Industry. You have no idea how ugly it was back then and how it is still.
Personally I think people should forgive when they want to or are ready to forgive. Not when other people tell them they should forgive. Leave people to make their own choices on forgiveness it is not for us to tell others when to forgive.
She doesn’t deserve our forgiveness. She needs to get every single girl in existence that is still living that has ever attempted at top model, get them in an auditorium and individually cut every girl a check and turn over every penny she has ever earned over to these victims for exploiting them. She does not deserve anything as she abused her position and allowed herself to claim that it’s beyond her control and never call out or speak out against Ken Mok or these evil wicked investors for their crimes against every contestant.
This is extremely dark deception and the show was 100% fraudulent incarnate.
We don’t care about her child hood. We don’t care what she thinks she claims she earned.
These celebrities are sick, And if they are victims then why are they still actively participating in the deception and still eating off the hands of those whom are in positions of power, principalities.
These are walking dead creatures.
Sorry Kourine, but she is a walking dedication to baphomet the amalgamation of sin and a symbol of worship to the material realm.
She doesn’t deserve to be considered black or a sister.
Tyra is Uncle Tom sucking the toes of the rulers and has never been anything other than a caucasian women with bronzer.
Get over it.
I couldn’t agree with you more. As a former fan of Tyra, it took years for me to realize she was the ultimate mean girl. And the worst kind because she tried to come across as wanting to empower and build up the very aspiring models that she actually tormented. And her transparent fakeness is still apparent on Dancing With the Stars -which I stopped watching after she became the host.
Exactly
Growing up as a kid I greatly admired Tyra. She was like a real life size barbie doll to me haha 😄. And ANTM was my show. But I'm so glad as an adult people called out her treatment towards those models.
Same!
There is a part 2 to life size how I find it I cannot remember but yes when will always be all star but two is okay
And if you watch part 2 I think it's signifies that she's learned a few things it's weird her character is different but just don't know how to explain it besides more grown up I guess yet still the same life-size I guess you can say type of movie we would be expecting
@@octaviasanders8696 yeah I watched it. It was meh to me.
She actually started in this Disney movie called life size where she literally plays a doll
Remember this was also a time when there were not a lot of black models on the scene so when Tyra came about a lot of agencies would say, “oh we already have a black model we don’t need another” both Tyra and Naomi speak about this and I think this is a topic that could help explain the tension between the two models.
Literally the only logical comment here.
Evan Chanel Iman spoke about this.
I personally believe Tyra when it comes to the Naomi situation. I definitely think Naomi was mean to her. I don't think she should've brought her on her show to hash it out. But I do think it happened.
exactly. RUclipss video series on the history of Black models spoke about the whitewashing of fashion shows and pitting models against each other for the few jobs available.
@@lavendersunsets7066 i dont. Naomi was way higher in the hierarchy than Tyra by the time Tyra came around. She was so busy and still YOUNG. A young, successful, beautiful, British woman like Naomi had no time to coddle & be über friendly with Tyra JUST because she was another black model. If anything Tyra was just butthurt that Naomi did not urgently try to befriend her. Entitled behavior.
I remember when she shared how Naomi bullied her when they were both coming up.
She invited Naomi on her talk show and they talked it out. I thought that was it, then a few years ago… she made a snide comment about Naomi, saying “I’m still afraid of her.”
I got extremely annoyed because now it seemed like she was purposely trying to CONTINUE painting Naomi as a villain. I thought “Girl! You confronted her, spoke your truth and she owned it! Why are you bringing this up again and trying to turn everyone against her again!”
At that point, Tyra was just trying to be a victim again.
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Exactly 💥😒
That was my reaction as well. I kinda admired Tyra until she invited Naomi to her show merely to call her out. I thought Tyra was unprofessional, tacky & petty. It's one thing to voice your issue, but to go on and on about it revealed a bit of an obsession. I wish her success & prosperity, but I lost my appreciation for Tyra.
If Naomi did say that she would never be me, then she was right. Naomi is still fine and walking runways at 53 yrs. No one was calling for Tyra at the end of her career because she couldn’t fit the clothes.
I completely understand Naomi ignoring her. One thing I know is that you can’t go from “Popular mean girl” to groveling for approval by another person. Tyra was passive aggressive and was definitely the friend to act funny with you when dudes or other popular people are around 🤷🏽♀️
Plus ppl take those who aren’t conventionally friendly (and people pleasing) as bad people. Look, Naomi was there to go to work and go home. She’s not kiki’ing with no one. What other models from her era have shared stories of brunch dates and mall trips with Naomi?
She's never apologized for anything not for the trauma she caused not for the racism she promoted showing she clearly has no remorse and does not care. She hasn't taken accountability and asked for forgiveness therefore she doesn't deserve any.
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It wasn’t borderline abusive it was straight up abusive!
I recall Janice Dickinson used to be a judge there at times & all buddy buddy with Tyra on ANTM. Then Janice had some show where she told a girl who wanted to model to get a nose job or she’d fire her. Mind you the girl was homeless. So Janice being mean & Tyra and her being buddies makes sense. They both shared that mean girl spirit !
Janice Dickinson just mean period! She's definitely a bi*ch! But one thing about Janice, she is straight up in your face and will let you know how she feels & if she don't like ya' she'll let you know. So her & Tyra is different in that aspect. Tyra is a mean girl on tha low that comes off as if she's better than you and will give you a fake smile but try to shade you at the same time.
Mean girl my arse this haint is evil. Power and authority went to her head. BS she enjoyed hurting people and still does.
Both are Sagi bitch lol
Janice Dickinson is a washed up groupie model and a damn drunk and Tyra well just brainwashed
You are not telling the story correctly. She told the girl needed a nose job to work in the industry (which was true) but she never forced her and didn't end their contract for that. The homeless girl had a bad attitude and was a no-call no-show for an appointment they had. That's why their working relationship ended. Furthermore, Tyra and Janice were most definitely NOT friends. Janice was on drugs and was unprofessional. They hated each other; and Tyra had her fired from the show.
Yaya was never condescending.
confident black woman ≠ condescending
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I didn't like Yaya then because the way she treated Eva but I like her now and her acting.
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I watched that season as well.
EVA Was there to win
So Yaya's behavior towards Eva was like water flowing off of a ducks back.
Yaya was competitive
And so was Eva may the best man WIN..
Both are BEAUTIFUL..
@@godiseverything1482 Yep. Both are doing quite well now and I think they may be friends. I don't know what happened to the white blonde girl who turned on Eva.
I think Yaya did have a superiority complex . but the judges telling her to tone down her Afrocentric style was disgusting . her response to that was not condescending in my eyes .
The truth is, Tyra has always been that bully that she was in middle school. She never really changed, she just learned how to mask it better. One thing that I can respect about Naomi is that she owns her "divaness." Tyra is just as much of a diva (if not, worse) but she pretends to be righteous.
I love Naomi (“you are NOT on my level! You will never BE on my level!!”). Tyra is fake. I remember on her talk show about colorism, she was talking about paper bag parties and said she would not pass the paper bag test. What a crock. It’s like why try to act like something you’re not? We can see your skin tone.
Words right out of my mouth. The tactics she used in high school or middle school, were the same, just on a show.
Kerren Stephens really held her own in the interagation of an interview 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏.
Tyra really didn't know how to respond, I loved it.
I don't remember that, I'll have to look that up
Ikr???!😒
@@meccamitchell6481 pls do it's great. Korryn was going around speaking at universities for a while too
Yes I was proud of her because Tyra clearly wanted her to feel like a ho!
I just don't like her. Her humour is cringe, she has been involved with a shady MLM business, not to talk about her behaviour on ANTM... And the victim narrative about Naomi. 🙄🙄 I don't know if she has learnt something from all of this, but I doubt... I definitely don't hate her, but I don't like her neither. My opinion.
I agree with your sentiments.🫣
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I agree, I hope she has changed because I never realized how toxic she was on the show. But now after watching it over again and hearing how she talked to the girls on the show , just ugh’ I can’t see her the same .
@@baddiezone She has changed even said that herself years ago on her talk show and even hashed her beef with Naomi. Also she does a lot of charity work for black females but no one wants to talk about that
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How Tyra said "You are dying inside" to Karrine pissed me off.
Hell it pissed me off
Same here
It's almost like she was trying to provoke her or something.
Me and Tyra would have been throwing them bows!
Yeah
It was so evil
those poor girls were literally abused physically and emotionally on screen😭
I call bs on Tyra being bullied. Like you said Naomi was a girls girl and still is! Tyra’s jealousy came out on her show ! Especially towards other black models! It was offensive and appalling.
What I want to know is why she behaves like that?? I mean she was just like those girls back in her time as a young woman in the modeling industry and she's treating those girls like they ain't nothing
Right
@@juanitamorgan5475 I think she’s jealous because they’re young and fresh. I could read between the lines on her show and she’s been through a lot relationship wise as well. I remember her talking about begging men to stay. She’s beautiful on the outside but no beauty can fix an ugly spirit. Plus she was so self involved on the show. She made every topic about herself
A girls girl until you see competition in another black girl from America.
Tyra enjoyed torturing the models on the show and pretended they will make amazing photos, push through the pain, channel all that anger, lol! Typical narcissist.
My mom and grandma met Tyra at the grove and she wasn’t the nicest. I know she could have been just having an off day but my family was really respectful and now seeing this kinda makes me think a little. 👀
Tyra was colorist and a bully to many. Used to look up to her as a little girl but the more I learned about her the less I thought she was good person
Yes! Such a shame that as gorgeous as she is, she feels the need to be so mean and a bully
@@tshidi129 It is a shame. I applaud her for being self aware and admitting in an interview she was a bully, but unfortunately she still ended up hurting others. I think sometimes too she was obtuse about how the way she spoke to people could hurt them, because even though she is bubbly, she is very blunt.
Stay off social media, it ruins your brain... Oh, too late.
A colorist? How so?
I definitely don't think she is a colorist because she praises all skin colors from the palest to the darkest but she is a bully lol
Tyra is very pretty but there’s only one Naomi Campbell. Great video Karine ❤
Hey Lorry Hill I love your videos❤❤❤
Tyra created a multi empire business. Naomi is following her steps now. She did it with The Face. She’s not just “pretty” she’s literally a supermodel. Not everyone wants to be a Naomi.
@@felixcastillo7336 And Naomi was already a Multi-Billionaire by that point and created her own empire long before Tyra did. Even Iman created her own empire way before that too. Also Tyra has said that the reason she learned how to walk was because of Naomi. She walked down the runway just like Naomi for awhile before she discovered her own style. So yes Felix she did wanna be like Naomi for quite some time. That pretty much just shows you that Naomi Campbell truly set the standard for being a hard-working supermodel and she truly did lay the foundation for that. Without legendary models like Naomi Campbell Tyra's entire career in the industry would never exist. Point, Blank, Period. 👑💖
@UCyNZlvZ3MhuIpOrXHGTNK8w That’s not true. Naomi has never done any empire. Naomi has followed Tyra’s footsteps with so many things. The reality shows like the face was something she created after ANTM. There is this mini series about Black Models “Supreme Models” in which even Iman, Veronica Webb, Joan Smalls, among others said in the documentary that Tyra Banks is the one who did it better. Yes I understand Naomi is a really important figure for dark skin people but come on! Don’t try to bash Tyra. I knew Tyra way before Naomi and I know Naomi was there before but Tyra def put the fashion industry into the masses. Naomi couldn’t. Tyra had her own talk show 15 years ago and then Naomi had her own RUclips channel. All your facts are a joke. Tyra has way more money than Naomi anyways. She worths way more.
@@felixcastillo7336 Look Tyra, I know this is rather difficult for you to understand but just know that no matter what you do in order to keep you and your career up float and stay relevant you still won't ever reach the level of Naomi and all the other legendary supermodels from that golden era. Nor will you ever have the longevity and impact that Naomi has to this very day. So why not just calm down with the burner accounts and actually go and apologize to every single girl you bullied and traumatized on your shows. ☺️
She’s responsible for her own behavior and healing but we allowed her to get away with that kind of behavior by being supportive.
I was lucky enough to attend the Tyra Show back when it was filming and she was the rudest diva on set and off the screen. We were all kinda scared of her. I also refuse to believe she was bullied at all. I think it’s a victim narrative she made up to get sympathy points. Remember how she forced Naomi Campbell to apologize to her about “bullying” and Naomi was like that never happened sis lmfaooo
Sounds like uve never met Naomi she’s the most vile person
Tyra just gives off a vibe that she would be irritating to be around, as a friend, co-worker, neighbor, cousin, etc. Kinda like Oprah.
Tyra is known as Tyra,Miss Campbell is known as the iconic model the legendary model or the British born beauty.
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Miss Campbell, do you remember that conversation on her show with Miss Campbell...she was not having it,
Im not even going to lie, watching some of the clips from her talk show made me cringe 🙃.
I know 😢😢
We need a Pam Grier piece.
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Unfortunately we can un-see the time Campbell went off at a fellow model judge telling the judge not that she can’t compare to her career and that the fellow judge would never be her ! So It is obviously in her nature to say those kinda things .
Naomi was right though
Please do the golden girls individually and maybe start with Betty White because her death date is coming up! Love your videos!!
That's interesting !! good one!! 🥰
Honestly Karine, I'm guilty for not seeing this myself💀 I love Tyra a lot as a young kid esp ANTM. I'd use to think it was normal with her behavior and I still do love her but I can find of see what you're saying too. Thank you for the video Karine hope that you are enjoying the holidays and doing well 🎆
Happy holidays my love! 😘♥️
The problem it it WAS normal for the industry. That’s the point of the show. To prepare non experienced models function in a tough industry. Tyra said multiple times she too dealt with a lot of what the girls did. Not saying it’s right but that was the industry. I think as most things from the past, details get lost. That said…this show will NEVER work today lmaooo. Even when I was a kid I was shocked at the some of the shit they had the girls do. Like the show was nuts for real 😂
Tyra is the most toxic model of her era. Tried to paint Naomi as the mean girl but it was Tyra who was always the mean girl. All the ANTM contestants, hosts and crew have all come forward saying how toxic she was. She's forever cancelled with me.
Has everyone forgotten the reputation of Naomi in the industry? Remember the accusations of her throwing something at her maid in NY whom she accused of stealing something from her? Didn’t she had to do some community hours? And Naomi did say on her own TV show to a contestant YOU WILL NEVER BE ME etc…I believe there is a little truth to what Tyra said. I think that both women were misunderstood because they had to fight in the industry of modeling to make it to the top and as such be labeled “mean” or “angry” black women. And the tabloids did pitch them against each other as they STILL do it today with female rappers Nicki vs Cardi B vs Meghan the Stallion or Doja Cat check her “Woma” lyrics.
Right. Also, I believe people forget how poorly Black models were treated back then. Tyra and Naomi were made to feel like they were competing for the token Black girl position. It’s only been a few years ago that the fashion industry has recognized Black models. It’s just a lot to take into account when reviewing both ladies actions.
@@brielax4441 Exactly, not to forget that people in the US liked to hate on Tyra. Wasn’t she labeled a gold digger because she dated or went on a date with Tigger Wood or John Singleton? I think all that made her want to succeed as a business woman. And to those who say Tyra has to apologize to Yaya etc…because she “exploited” the models well you live in a “capitalist” society! Yaya got opportunity just like Eva Marcel etc. Maybe the same people should go to the producer of Growing up Hip Hop or RHOA etc…
Naomi hit her Hispanic assistant in her face with her cell phone she didn't accuse her of stealing she just did it because the girl didn't do something right and Noami flew into a rage Naomi was very mean and nasty the poor girl had to have stitches in her face they showed her wound it was a bloody mess
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People abusing Position
I try not to used the word POWER
Because I feel like no has Power over anyone.
You do what you do because the position that you are in allows you to believe that you can,
And that it is ok.
That woman was probably scared of losing her job.
I don’t hate her but I was not one of the people she hurt -directly or indirectly. I do admire some of her characteristics and achievements but I think it’s still important to recognize where she went wrong and the things that she did that were not okay. She seemed to like shocking people to an unhealthy degree and manipulating their emotions. It was exploitative. I don’t know how much she’s grown since then but I haven’t seen anything to prove she has. I hope she has a desire to heal some of the pain she’s caused people on her way to the top. It would be cool to see her admit her wrongs and seek their forgiveness. I wish her and her son the best.
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I have always liked her despite the controversies
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Just because she had those beautiful green eyes coupled with her gorgeous caramel skin I think she let her rare beauty get to her head. Other models are much more down to earth about why they were models but Tyra seemed to really think it was more than looks. I think when models called her on this she got upset. It’s like hunny you’re a beautiful, tall woman with rare features. You won the genetic lottery that’s why you’re a model!
As someone who lives in Europe Tyra is not very famous here except for her show.
Naomi is more famous here
@@LisaF777 And in the USA as well
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Yess in Germany no one knows Tyra. Everyone just knows Naomi Campbell. Maybe because Naomi is from England…
Naomi is incredibly insecure which is why she lashes out at Tyra, at Nicole Trunfio, at assistants. She felt threatened by another black supermodel because in many shows back then - very few black models were cast with the exception of YSL.
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Huh? I think you have it mixed up. Lol
Girl Tyra is selling ice cream and Naomi is still on the runway doing her thing and is very respected in the fashion industry
@@shavonmulan1826She is not selling ice cream, for networth is more than Naomi's. I can't stand Tyra, but the truth is the truth.
Tyra didn't like Yaya bc she was intelligent..
Exactly
Omg I was so bored on RUclips just now and this popped up 🔥🔥🔥🔥
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It is great that you want to give her a second chance but the people who she hurt should decide if they are willing to forgive her.
That part
I remember watching that episode on the Tyra Show with KS. Tyra was definitely bothered & didn’t wanna admit that they both were with the same men, just not Tyra’s boyfriend… other men too. They were within the same circles & Tyra going in on KS like that just exposed Tyra more & what she was trying to “defend” & hide.
I don’t want to forgive her because she’s not sorry
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I'd also like a video on the Music Video vixens of the 2000s, their styles were so gorgeous.
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Forgive Tyra? Mmm mmn get somebody else to do it
😂😂😂
I love Tyra, she is a trailblazing business woman. She deserves her flowers.
Man I love Jay Manuel. Could you also do a video of him lol.
Tyra was the real life mean girl-Beautiful, Privileged and insensitive.
Loved her ANTM, the Tyra show and Lifesize, I Loved the 2000s
I believe Naomi, Tyra is a bully. She did everything she could to frame Naomi as "bad person", and even get her into her own Tyra's show to bash her in front of hew own (Tyra's) fans in audience. That was so vile! Not to mention how her ANTM series treated the contestants, it was borderline abuse.
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Naomi is a bully herself. They both are equally abusive 😒.
Naomi is a bully too
Hurt people hurt people
Tyra Banks is still viewed as a super model and we will always love and support her❤
Just like we love and support Naomi Campbell. Naomi admitted to being jealous of Tyra's mother being with her. Unfortunately, 'some' people love to see Black women fight. This is why you never fight or argue with another Black woman. The key is to be supportive, respectful, and loving❤
I always wondered if the show ANTM scripted Tyra as a villain.
That could be also
You can’t script blanet racism and colorism
Wasn't she an executive producer tho??
Lmao the show was produced by HER own company: Bankable Productions…so nah, she was being her
If it did, it was typecasting. It seemed to celebrate her obnoxious and narcissistic behavior.
She is accomplished and beautiful and hard-working… But she is a full-fledged bully
You gotta understand Hollywood is it’s own bubble. I lived in Cali and everything is about how you look and she was just saying what she knows. The outside world are two completely worlds.
Growing up in Europe, its just so hard for me to imagine anyone being bullied for being skinny 😅
And I noticed that a lot of celebrities were bullied for being skinny, having thick eyelashes etc
I’m from London I was bullied relentlessly for being skinny…I think it’s more Black culture that looks down on skinny girls 😢
Tyra called herself a mean girl..so why would we doubt that she is anything but a mean girl.
I honestly will always love Tyra. She was my idol when I was like 4 lol. I know all the controversial stuff she did on the show but she always has a special place in my heart haha.
Banks always had a smart head on her shoulders, but from what I gleaned from this awesome video is that she was very vindictive and stubborn. If she was trying to make a point with the aspiring models, it wasn't vetted through a group that wasn't sycophantic to her. She's very successful that she can start ventures on her own. Is she smart and beautiful? Yes. Is she a good bet to invest in? Yes. Is she suceptible to making mistakes? Yes. My wife and I personally gave up on Dancing with the Stars. She is far cry from the original host. She is not a bad person at all, but good grief, she needs someone brave and tougher than her to tell her, "No... that's a stupid and terrible idea."
Tyra is a legend . We’ll give her that. She was funny on Fresh Prince. Her attitude: horrible. Yes we all deserve forgiveness but that doesn’t mean I have to like her. Nobody can do a catwalk like Naomi that’s why she was mentioned in Beyoncé song. Tyra made history and is definitely an icon, but they way she treated people and try play victim when clearly your the mean girl…I can’t seem to get over that.
I watched the show & realized how tough the modeling world was. I forgot about the show because it was not my day to day reality. As a child I was introduced to soap operas & when I went to college I stopped because my life was not going to be a soap opera.
I hope Tyra has a redemption arc. Yes, problematic, but let’s give her the flowers that are due. She was bullied by Naomi, Tyra was just showing us what it was behind the scenes.
A REFLECTION OF TRUE HOLLYWOOD BEHAVIOR!
She’s a woman of her generation and she acts that way, celebrities didn’t have it easy back then it was the get up and do it no matter how you feel kind of era.
If we’re giving Tyra grace, we’ve got to give it to Naomi too. Not just because Tyra was a “reformed mean girl” in high school, but because in the fashion industry they often pit the Blk female models against each other, and tell them that there can only be one at the top. The cattiness and jealousy were manufactured and Tyra should have known better and not fed into it.
Tyra and Janice Dickinson both always seemed so mean on their shows.
16:43 karrine handled herself very well. Intelligence is the best weapon.
Hurt people hurt people! The fact that she had been bullied at school didn’t gave her the right to do the same things because she knew the hurt. I hope she learns from her mistakes.
As a teenager watching this I did not like how she was penalizing YaYa for be headstrong, confident and a individual.
I was a huge fan of Tyra's until I saw this. Wow! This was eye opening. I think Naomi handled herself really well. Tyra needs to own up to her mistakes.
Woww grew up on Tyra. Well I’m the younger millennial. But I love seeing Tyra but now that I’m older I see and go back to the interview she did to Naomi , and omg 😢. That was uncalled for and petty and humiliating.
Its very hard to defend Tyra. Her modelling tv show was not credible at all. It humiliated and made the models do unreleastic challenges that models do not have to do. Her high fashion modelling work was very brief. She did very few seasons. She never walked for Versace and looking back she was not a supermodel.
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I think Karl Lagerfeld clowned the show years ago and while I’m not for gatekeeping I think he did have a point. A lot of the modeling agencies didn’t really take that show or the contestants seriously and a handful of them had successful careers outside of America.
She definitely wasn’t Naomi level supermodel. I think she got big being a Victoria secret model
@@ComaLies225 Yeah Karl would know being in the industry for decades. Her show was really flawed. In reality the hardest part for the model is the 'go sees' aka casting calls. Showing her book and usually the person (client or representative) will say thank you after looking at it. You rarely get rejected at the casting call flat out. That is considered unprofessional. But the model will not know if she has been accepted either for that client. And it can be draining the uncertainty.
Models are never directly pitted against each other at casting calls. They are seen one at a time. What tyra did was pit the girls directly against each other for her approval and to 'win'. They had to complete 'unrealistic challenges'. It was a farce, a complete joke. She lost all credibility as a model or mentor who had knowledge of the industry.
As far as her modelling career, she went into acting (fresh prince), presenting and courting the media to become relevant and a celebrity. Her profile in fashion had sunk so she wasn't seen in high fashion layouts or runways like the true golden era of supermodels 1990 till 1998. She is the 'media model' like hiedi Klum mostly know for swimsuits pictures. Heidi who did very little modelling work too. Both turned themselves into celebrities in order to get work.
She couldn’t handle Naomi being the most popular and famous model and how designers loved Naomi and not her
When I watched the show back then I assumed they were in on it, just like how reality tv is like. I assumed it was just acting to make it entertaining, but the girls actually came out and said they were bamboozled and treated horribly, that’s when my outlook towards Tyra changed.
TYRA BANKS HAS APOLOGIZED OVER AND OVER AND OVER. She not goin keep apologizing every time new ppl are born
Regardless of what she did she will always be a legend!!! I love trya we all do 😩
No grace! She was fully aware of her behavior, choosing over and over to do it.
Regardless of how folks feel about Tyra, it doesn’t take away from her achievements. Love her, hate her or indifferent to her, Tyra is still an icon
No one is talking about her achievement.
Exactly💯
I’ll be glad when y’all realize achievements don’t mean shit when you are a shitty person or have some terrible things.
Achievements mean f*ck all when you’re not a good person lol
There were always people who found the behavior on Top Model problematic. There's always been people who did not like bullying and cruelty. It's just that now we can connect with one another much easier due to social media. More people are standing up instead of just watching one or two people fighting against abuse. More people now have the courage to speak up and out. Also there was a chat page dedicated to Top Model online back then and when you read through the comments you would see people calling Tyra, the other judges and certain cast members out when they were being abusive and cruel.
She was a product of her time. Simple as that. I’m sure she’s doing well now or at least I hope 🖤
I agree Give Tyra some GRACE
Like the video, don't feel bad for Tyra. As long as she's not feeding into that toxic culture anymore. Unfortunately, that's the way it used to be...🤷♀️
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You should do breakdowns of Hollywood's most famous Himbos!
I love her, she’s an icon, she is a mogul, she’s a legend
Everyone calling Tyra a mean girl but Naomi was too. She has actual assault charges to her name, yet that is never acknowledged or brought up. Both women had their flaws. Both are trailblazers. Dogpiling on one for their "mean girl" traits while excusing the other is so backwards and hypocritical.
Seeing her old catwalk videos and pictures was amazing- she’s absolutely Gorgeous!😧😧 I’m from Europe and she’s not that Delius here but really I am amazed
I never cared for her, just something about her. Team campbell. Thank you.!
I ❤️ Tyra Banks
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I absolutely love Tyra. I collected every mag cover she was on.
I thought the series ANTM was a masterclass for anyone looking to model and do photoshoots. The criticism was something I went through at art school in order to make me better, so i thought it would be good for the aspiring models as well
Looking back, some of the behavior was problematic, and I'm sure was manufactured to increase reality show ratings. the models' conditions were unacceptable. I think the show got worse and the judges got meaner after Miss Jae, Nigel Barker, and Jay emmanuel left.
Naomi is notoriously cruel to her assistants. This has been well documented in court cases. Its not a stretch to believe she saw Tyra as a threat and lashed out at her. I believe Tyra is telling the truth about her experience. I also believe Tyra was honestly preparing her contestants for real world experiences. The industry is (allegedly) very misogynistic and cruel and it appears as though Tyra was giving them a master class in potential situations they needed to be ready for. Did things get out of hand sometimes? I don't know. I wasn't there. Sounds like Naomi was nice and was actually NOT preparing the contestants for the real world... that would be less competition for her, and she obviously doesn't like competition, lol.
No Drama but it's called Tokenism
You single out one person and then there's only so much work for that role . not many British models made the cover of Elle on 1987 so for a blk girl from South London of Jamaican heritage we could really use the good rep and bask in the glory.The moment Naomi becomes problematic nobody wants to hire Jamaican girl
Tyra Banks was one of the original Supermodels of the 90's .
She was and is amazingly beautiful.
Long gone the time when real Supermodels made their mark in Fashion.
She did nothing wrong. It's a business and she gave those girls a big ass head start. It was never called Tyras your best friend.
thank you! and for the time that was filmed all the attitude was pretty normal
Naomi gives the vibes that she wanted to be the only pretty black “it woman” 💀 I’m glad she accepted accountability even though she didn’t remember saying those things, that’s real personal growth.
I always felt that the concept of top model forcing young aspiring models to suffer the way Tyra and other models did was ludicrous. Why would you want to make other people suffer and put people through the bad things you went through? Instead of trying to change the way the industry was she used it and them to make money. Disgusting.
Thank you for the upload ❤
Thank you for watching ❤
Truth on how people during that time didn’t have these views and standards they have of the show now, they loved it and consumed it and didn’t see anything wrong with the tactics, probably thought, “I guess this is how it goes in modeling “ and moved on, so it’s quite hypocritical of them to now be trying to cancel her, also not agreeing with the tactics of the show, a lot of them. Anyway, I love how gracious you are with people and not trying to be “exposing “ and shaming people . Lovely and keep it up.
I never hated Tyra. 🤣 Naomi assaulted people and she’s still an icon. 🤣
She says that about Yaya, but is who she says who Yaya is. HELL NAW, SHE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS DOING.
I feel like both Naomi and Tyra had a mean side to them e.g. When Naomi threw a phone at someone, but I feel like Top model revealed a very toxic side of Tyra, but we all have had toxic sides of ourselves and we learn and grow.