Jay Manuel Explains His Fallout With Tyra Banks
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He looks the exact same way as he did when I was 7....I'm 24 now.
Makeup and botox boo
daniel benitez Money well spent 👌🏾
I feel like we’re the same person in that way 🤣☺️
U are very young still
Aaaah so am I💘
He said ”controversial shoots” and my mind flashed to “today we’re switching your ethnicities!!!”
Meghan Sullivan Yeaahhhhh I re-watched that one again recently and I was like 😳
Yeah, I watched that with my girl the other day (we’re an interracial couple) and I was like “bruh, WTF?!😂😂😂” that shit didn’t age well AT ALLLLLLLL🤦🏿♂️
The Element and they did it more than once 😅😅😅
He made sure to slip that in.
I think they gender switch episodes too lol
I was today's years old when I realised that they even had a fallout!
Me too
Same boo.
Right girl me too 😫😫
Isk either. But I'm not suprised
He said she only spoke 2 him when the cameras were rolling. I believe it.
Both jay and Tyra were problematic bullies to the girls. Throughout, back to back, every episode.... so please enough with the theatrics
PERIOD.
What? NOT TRUE. Mr Jay never
Ever yelled at those girls period
He was a mentor to them.
So Oghogho Asemota. Mr J was
No bully never have never will
Be. Time 11:33AM Sun 2/21/21
@@neddyconstant5816 you might want to watch the episode again. He may not yell but his shade was ridiculous, and asking them to do one thing like be a diva and then complain to Tyra that the girl was being a diva. Lol Jay was no angel
@@AfrocentricLuv
I did MORON.
Time 12:36PM Thurs 2/25/21
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I dont care what anybody says; Mr.Jay, Ms.Jay, and Nigel Barker were the experts that made the show.
kandy sweets agreed! Tyra deserves some credit but it’s the team effort that made the show
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
The black woman boss is what made the show. Go Tyra!
I don't think that I was invalidating Tyra Bank's place on the show..
My comment was specifically about the judges that she had on the show.
So, my comment still stands..
Yes I mean the Janice rwplacement😥🤦🤦 like comeon!
Tyra screamed at a girl because she didn't cry when she was eliminated. I believe she would behave this way.
She screamed at her because she was laughing and acting like she didn’t care.
Israel Gomez yeah but it was a defense mechanism. That girl went through so much, I PROMISE you she would’ve cried on the way home. But she didn’t want to let that out in that moment. That’s an incredibly vulnerable moment and Tyra took her defense mechanism as a sign of “disrespect” and instead of listening to the girl she humiliated her. Disgusting
There was more to that argument, Tyra shamed her for being poor, but they didn’t show that part in the show
just a heads up, the girl was laughing and making it seem like it was a joke. understand when those cycles even happened...defense mechanism wasnt a common excuse. it was seen as she didnt take it seriously. and truthfully, Tyra was in her rights to yell at her...Modeling is hella hard. it is definitely not for most people. especially 10 yrs ago. and tyra clawed her way into the business. she saw it as disrespect and i dont blame her (given the mentalities of the times).
@@imlaylahereiam She also seemed to want to make things better for the other girls. In any case, a lot of people don't feel comfortable crying in public.
I’m sorry, but the Jays were IRREPLACEABLE
Even more so than Tyra IMO. 🤷🏻♀️
I watched one season just because miss jays hair got bigger and bigger with every episode
I wish they were both appreciated more! they’re part of pop culture!
Loved the Jays!
Right!! I loved the Jays.
Y'all remember when that girl Kayla was in tears about a shoot where she had to kiss a boy, and told him how she was scared of men because she was molested? Cause I do. I remember he told her to basically just move on.
and when keenyah was being groped by the male model and said something about it, and jay told her to deal with it?? he was just as awful as anyone on the show
And when Jaeda (cycle 7) had to kiss a guy that told her that he doesn't like black girls and both Tyra and Jay did not care...
@Tony Lopez not when you sign contract, troll. Gtfo
@@idapettersson5550 I think Jaeda should have told the guy that he wasn't being paid to like black girls. I mean, plenty of actors and models kiss and do love scenes with people they aren't attracted to. It was a HIM problem, not a Jaeda problem.
@Tony Lopez your comments are probably the most tone deaf, ignorant things I’ve ever read. It’s like the conversation surrounding workplace harassment and survivors stories have just not at all reached you at all. Do you like under a rock? And if so, can you please go back under it?
I love him but I can literally pull up 100 scenes of his RUDENESS. It was def a group effort
True that
Right. I believe every thing he's saying but let's not pretend that he was a complete angel as well. He wasnt nearly as bad as she was but he said some pretty harsh things too.
Anointiyae Beasley definitely. I think all the judges were toxic tbh. Whenever they’d judge a girl on something pointless they’d all pile on. Like when they told a girl she’s “too proud of her African roots”
@@catherinelin9711 oooooooh child. . . do no get me started on that hot mess. I still remember that episode vividly and I still remember thinking every single one of those judges was full of shit. That judging panel pissed me off like no other.
Toxic environment breeds dysfunction.
I always loved him on the show and definitely stopped watching after he and Nigel left
Samesies
Me too
Same
Same here! Very disappointing.
SAME!!! & Jay Manuel, Miss J & Nigel are all still hood friends. My sister ran into them on the street in NYC ❤
I’m starting to think Tyra is the problem
Starting ??? We been known
@@francis2728 RIGHT
She been the problem for years lol
How did people even miss that. She is all over the place... With charisma I guess so people overlook it
Uuuhhh yeah. She's been rude , hypocritical, and filled with issues!!
Just think we all need to remember that in cycle 4 Jay and the rest of the cast and crew shamed and invalidated Keenyah’s concerns about how one of the male models was groping her and moaning in her ear during the shoot. She stopped the shoot and expressed her discomfort. Jay said, and I quote, “we’re here in a professional situation, there are like fifty of us here on set” the photographer agreed and encouraged her to “go with the flow.” This exchange could be taken in one of two disgusting ways. One, “there are so many of us here, we would have seen/heard something like that so you must be blowing it out of proportion.” Or two, “there are so many of us here why would you waste our time with your concerns.” And this was just one of the worst of many circumstances in which Jay was insensitive, belittling, and absolutely toxic to the models. His hands are not clean.
There’s plenty of people nothings gonna happen I think it was like that but I understand your view like once you say don’t touch me lol 5 feet
@@ivettegonzalez4479 Something was happening. And continued to happen. She was being harassed. That's more than enough to validate her discomfort and expect support.
When I heard him say it I took it as "there's fifty of us here nothings going to happen". But that's just me. But yeah they should have stopped the shoot.
I thought since he added "we're on a professional set" he was saying that she's wasting time/not being professional. But I do also see how it could be taken as "Nothing's gonna happen". Whichever way, he was invalidating her and enabling the harassment
Hes just as toxic as a majority of the men in Hollywood
He hasn't changed a bit! He looks great.
I used to Love his glow on the show
Plastic surgery is amazing, isn't it?
Lizzy Grant whats he had done?
Botox :P
@Lo Bustin his nose looks different
How’s Tyra gonna make this whole to do about Naomi bullying her and then treat people this way! She was a bully to many herself. People are a trip.
Right?! My thoughts exactly! Tyra is a hypocrite!
Facts. Even half of the things she claimed Naomi did in the past, Naomi couldn't even remember lol. I'm like this ain't Tyraville girl, it ain't your world where everyone falls in line.
@ Ryan Reigns, IKR
Sounds like Naomi was her match 😂
Right?! No wonder she’s intimidated by Naomi bc she’s not having it. Naomi gives you that look to know and stay in your lane else I will! I’m team Naomi and will always be.
I’m starting to see why Naomi Campbell doesn’t like Tyra ...
Naomi is part of the Epstein crap
Naomi Campbell hates everybody fyi
Girl... right? Watch the Tyra Show episode where she confronts Naomi 😭
Heidi E a bunch of people are on those logs. What we don’t know is why.
She definitely played victim.. but she’s a diva for sure..
"Problematic shoots" like when a women model was being sexually harrassed by a men model on set and when she talked about it, him and the photographer basically said to the victim "deal with it" "be professional" 😒
OMG YES! And tyra dismissed her claims AND THEN told the girl to deal with it and be professional for.... a fictional shot! 😆
@@MeowMeow_95_ She really told that girl she could have handled it in a fun way. How do you handle sexual harassment in a 'fun way'. Smh I don't even know why I watched it
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Are you forgetting he said to just deal with it too
Wait what...!.?
“There were some controversial shoots I was uncomfortable with”
Thinks about when they made a girl hop in a grave to take pics after her FRIEND JUST DIED THE DAY BEFORE
Wow. That's crazy.
Bruh they really challenged everyones respect
If you can't handle the stress don't try and pursue a career that is like that
Yo i remember that!!! Crazy
Phew. That happened TWICE! To kaitlin and jael got put in some messed up photos after their friends passed away DURING The show
I got so sick of Trya choosing certain models to get horrible make overs that would destroy their confidence, and ruin their looks.
I remember when Tocarro was picked. They broke that young girl's spirit. Why pick someone who's plus size if you're not going to have clothes for them on a shoot?
@@EmpressElizabeth1920 ooooh! I remember that! I was livid! I was like why yall pick her but yall pinning bed sheets together to make her clothes when yall knew start of the season she was going to be on there. Her shit should have been made when yall decided the challenges. Pissing me off. But Tocarra held her head high and she was one of my all time faves
Chisty A I always hated that if she brought them on the show that means she liked them they way they are but then turn it around to change people’s appearance smh
@@MarcusMartn I know, right! she would always make some girl with like perfect waist length hair get some stupid pixie haircut. At one point I think she was just using the girls as her own personal weave farm! Lol.
I hated the people she picked as winners at times, like jessica
How is he 48 years old???!!??! What a beautiful man.
Whattttt no way. He looks so good.
I'm 37 and compared to him, I'm a walking dirt 😭😭😭
It's his genes, his originally from Cape Town South Africa❤️
He gets Botox
He can obviously afford to look this pretty that’s how!!
This guy was a big part of the abuse and bully to the models in ANTM. He did and said horrible things. What a toxic person. The racist photoshoot was not the only rude thing he was involved in, he was an active bully in that show.
Thank you!!! That’s what I’m saying. This guy was awful and super disrespectful to the young women as well and I noticed it when I was watching some episodes of the show. He’s not as innocent as he’s trying to portray himself.
These people are told to make models do odd things for tv ratings.
Exactly talking about controversial photo shoots that he was a part of know that he did it's either you are involved or you watch from afar one doesn't have negate the other in terms of responsibility and my perspective you can only have so much ugliness under the makeup that's what he forgets
Because they made him be. Dummy
And it was a different time back then. People weren’t sensitive.
Funny how he said black people would say he wasn’t black enough, and Spanish people would say he’s not Spanish enough. Guess who didn’t judge him? White people lol. He said even living in Toronto he didn’t experience any of that, like no shit. Most of Toronto is white ppl too. Think they have thicker skin than we do
But he also aided in convincing the women they damaged. This show it’s whole cast of judges aided in colorism. 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
If people rewatch the episodes they would see that. There's a lot of racism/discrimination and fat shaming skinny girls. It's horrible and shocking.
Yeah agree he did aided all of it
@@lindsaytruax234 This is such a common thing that happens in the modeling industry which is why there is a lot of eating disorders/self hatred within models. They will literally grab models “fat” and tell them how much weight they need to lose in some companies. My ex-boyfriend was friends with an aspiring model in high school and she would always say how they wanted her to lose more weight but she already looked SEVERELY underweight. Racism is obviously just a big problem. People, especially in America, need to just learn to be accepting towards everyone and be open to people expressing who they are. There just needs to be more diversity in different industries because you only get one experience in life so you can’t represent everyone.
Omg yes! I was looking for this comment! There was a time he gaslighted Keenyah when a male model was touching her inappropriately during some weird African dancing shoot.
And when she called it out he said “Touch where? There are like 50 people here” 🙄🙄
Dude was a scum bag just as much as Tyra. I have no sympathy.
PERIOD
Jay was just as mean Tyra....but definitely not as fake as she was/is.
I think Jay was more subtle with his remarks/actions. Tyra was more uprfront with her bullying.
True they were both fake
No honor amongst thieves. Jay was awful to the natural beauties. He was psychological n jealous. Now he prolly been blockballed. He coulve whispered the truth to theze poor girls. He knew they were fish to the sharks. I dont belive anything he say. Hed do anything i bet to levelup. Tyra bit him too like the toxic mutt she is. But he toredown plenty hopefuls n he know it.
That’s the fashion industry persona 😭
The older I get the more I see that Tyra was the villain she tried to paint Naomi Campbell to be!
I doubt that Naomi even thinks of her.
@@kaydenpat She doesn't think of her.
I finally watched that interview with Naomi and Tyra. Wow... I have a newfound respect and love for Naomi. Had no idea she went through so much hardship. She has truly grown through her traumas, beautiful human being.
Exactly!!!
In psychology that's called projection; when you see something in someone else & you AB-SO-FUCKIN-LUTELY HATE IT, 'Cause it reminds you the ugly parts of your own (ugly) personality!
He's a nasty vile person, look how he is is trying to manipulate everyone into empathize with the way he has acted in the past. He was a fully grown adult/working professional... He doesn't get a pass. He hurt people to benefit himself.
RIIIIGHTTT!!!!????For the life of me, I don't get how he gets to spill about the woman that gave him work and somewhat made him famous. Tyra for all her shenanigans never outed any of them, yet here they are coming for Tyra. It's only a matter of time before the internet mobs will turn on them, rightfully. They want to cast stones and hide their hands as if they did not fully participated in that entire show.
What did he do? X 😳
It’s so funny how he completely disassociates with tyra and everything that went down
YOU WERE THERE
He definitely showed his true colors in the show, he is not kind. If he wasn’t comfortable with the shoot of changing ethnicity, then why did he do that concept twice on the show?
@@5outh5ide48 he watched a model get sexually assaulted on set by a male model and called her unprofessional for stopping the shoot to point out the assault. They made her continue the shoot with the guy and that was Jay’s decision alone. Tyra wasn’t there although she responded just as poorly at judging.
Mr and Ms Jay was the light of ANTM and when they were gone the show didn’t felt right after that.
I agree. I was not as committed once they left. The vibe was one of many things that was changed.
I loved them!! 😊
Something else, I went to Tyra's talk show. Jamie Foxx was her guest. He performed 'Blame it'. During the commercial breaks, she didn't interact with the audience. A lil' smile here, and a lil' giggle there. No conversation. Jamie Foxx was more sociable. So whatever Mr. Jay is saying, I believe. Seems like she had an "Ellen thing" goin' on behind the scenes.
Dee Hannibal how hard is it to interact with the audience. Game will get to you
Seriously. I get Tyra was like the face and the reason for the show but...if you cut her out and kept the Jays and Nigel, it would’ve been 100 times more interesting and better than when they were all gone. I couldn’t stand the people that replaced them.
Idk, I have to give Jay the side eye because I remember him being somewhat rude and patronizing towards the models himself on a few occasions.
Im probably wrong but I wonder if he was like that to maybe give them a taste of what to expect because isnt that how industry people are?
It was a toxic work environment from the top down.
On many occasions
@The viva warrior Exactly. Thats why Tyra and that whole premise was toxic. Sorry to say in everyday life people are trashed on and people just enjoy being toxic to otbers.
Yes! Like melrose for instance. He was so demeaning to her about being a diva even tho he set her up to be a diva.. ugh annoying
"Its Naomi's fault, she bullied me." -- Tyra, 2030
I think had she tried to collab with her instead of being a mean girl things woulda been better
2050* 😂
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Chile.. Tyra will always be blaming Naomi while Naomi forgot and moved on lmao
We can't ignore the fact that everyone, including Mr. Jay, contributed to the toxic environment on a number of occasions...
I remember he asked a model what are you going to do if you quit go home and work at Burger King? I think all of them were rude and mean.
Right. Now All Of Sudden Him,& Mrs Jay Got These Problems With Tyra. When All Of Them Including Nigel Was Bullies, And All That Shitt.
Yeah weird timing for sure
That wasn't rude... It was realistic... Who wants to work at Burger King.. We need a better example then that cz I can't remember hey and I refuse to watch this show again... Tyra was always toxic
Mayroon Jacobs it was mean. When Adrienne ask her opinion about her lashes because they were doing a challenge. The girl snapped and said “ I really don’t care” cause she was hurt. Poor Adrienne said “ sorry dude” because she didn’t realize how upset the other girl was.
Yes they were mean but that’s how the business is.
I think it's funny how he immediately trying to separate himself from Tyra and her horrible actions. Let us be clear the cattiness and rude behavior that he displayed on the show to those models was most likely genuine. even if he was under contract he didn't have to act like that. Don't just blame everything on Tyra own up to your own actions
he's trying to fool us just like all his makeup, peroxide damaged hair, botox, fillers and plastic surgery is doing to make us think he is young when hes ready to become a senior citizen in a few months, he ain't fooling nobody
@@Catalyna. Omfg‼️😂🤣😭
So are we pretending that this man also wasn't a huge problem on the show? Like he wasn't making fun of the girls when they came to him with a problem or like he didn't say some raunchy shit about them with the other judges? Most of the hate is for Tyra but we need to direct some at Jay too
Tyra has been a mean girl forever but she knows how to play the victim really well.
God I'm so glad this show went on streaming so we as adults can call it out. You don't notice a lot of this stuff as a kid
they were normalizing compromising our boundaries. had us thinking that jobs were you need to sacrifice your values and comfort
@Paula La Poderosa YES 💯. They were indoctrinating the generations coming up then that compromise of one's values is necessary to "get ahead" in this world 🌎.
@@paulalapoderosa6762 YES! And our younger generations are standing up against it and they are so pressed over it. "we conditioned you to let us walk over your boundaries, why aren't you letting me anymore?" Cause now we can look back and see with our own adult eyes without nostalgia goggles and see the conditioning for what it was and stand against it.
Tyra always came across as: Judgemental and unforgiving. Which is Ironic because she had those Segments in her talk show about other People. Hmmmmm
Oh gosh! You hit the nail on the head!
Yep, and she even brought Naomi on her talkshow to throw it in her face goe Naomi bullied her all those years as a model. It was uncomfortable to watch because you could tell Tyra wouldn't let it go, and Naomi apologized, but it's like, damn Tyra..how toxic can you be.
The way she spoke to some of the women like seriously I amazed she never got hit.
Yep. I stopped watching her talk show when she kept bashing the guests that she brought on to help. I’m like what type of help is this? Bye
Tyra is no different than Rupaul.., pure evil
Ew. This whole thing was just eww 😷 he legit turned every “controversy” to something about him instead of apologizing. “Shooting the ethnicity swap was so hard because MY parents are from South Africa and as a mixed personify hard for me since most people always assumed I was Brazilian or Spanish.” That’s gross 🤮 how about apologizing because it’s wrong and you were never the victim in that situation jay? It like when you tell people you just got in a car accident and the first thing they say is how they also got in an accident one time.. a little irrelevant and insensitive instead of asking if you’re okay or what happened. People that play victim when it comes to apologizing are the worst humans.
Why should he apaolgize for trays behaviour ? She gave the green light for these controversy’s and even explained them and she didn’t apologize she never apologizes ….. mmm so why does someone else need to apologize for her ?
Tyra
No amount of PR pandering can help him hide his true rotten, selfish nature
He doesn't have a say in those photo shoots, so i'm not sure what he's apologizing for.
Did that shoot really hurt you or are you thinking it should have? Serious question.
Lol Jay Manuel just ditching Tyra under the bus when he was just as much of an accomplice to the exploitation of the girls.
Totally!!
I agree
I didn't realise how problematic ANTM was when I was a teen. I've recently been seeing reactions to the show and it has me so shocked at the ugly behavior from the judges, photographers, producers.etc . Wow
It gives you an insight to the world of modeling. They are a direct product of it, Tyra's been in it since she was a teen. She grew up in it. If you want to be a model you should know this is ish you have to deal with. Look what happened with the models on the set of Robin's Blurred Lines.
Well as a kid, they make you think it's normal and okay. Stuff like this was a big part of how we were taught life works in general. That we had to compromise ourselves just to survive and that it was okay and you can't do anything about it so shut up and take it. But now we can look back and see that its not normal, it's not supposed to be. The amount of times I was told, even for regular jobs, that you're here to work, be professional, take what they throw at you otherwise you'll lose your job and be homeless, even if what they're throwing at you in unethical and wrong. To compromise your boundaries for a job. Let people use you and treat you like a tool to get what they want and you have to shut up and take it. It's so gross.
I didn't like Tyra tearing girls down on her show
Nothing's worse than someone who participated in the problematic scenarios to now act as a victim because they were "pressured". We live in such a weird time where shifting blame and avoiding accountability is commonplace. And somehow it works and these people get away with it even though there is hard evidence of the behavior. It's nearly impossible for me to feel bad for someone attempting to act like a victim to avoid criticism.
EXACTLY!
Easy and lazy to judge. It was his job and he had to make a living. Telling strangers to quit their job if they find something problematic is ridiculous because you are not living in that stranger‘s reality.
@@pb.j.1753 I can't even take your comment seriously, lol.
This guy was 1 of the most toxic ppl on there , he was forcing 1 of the models to do something she didn't want to do when she refused and wanted to go home he said something like " if you go back home you'll go back to flipping burgers again " !!!!!
Disgusting sub human.
I truly believe Tyra ruined her own career the moment she yelled at the girl that was eliminated.
I personally don’t think so. Because from my perspective, it wasn’t taken as seriously until the past couple years. I think ANTM as a whole ruined her whole career.
@@faeri_ Ruined her career? She has a big contract with ABC and is one of the most successful models of all time
@@jbiks7136 nah lots of people don’t know who she is internationally. I think most ppl outside of the states know her from top model only.
I think it was when Tyra acted during the acting challenge.
@@FabiolaRVela no. We knew her from before! Thanks to George Michael in that videoclip(not 'Freedom')but she was no supermodel. In europe it was all about the big 5 and the occasional 'flavour of the month'(Gisèlle Bündchen/Sophie Dahl during the 'Poisson' campaign)or 'unique look'(Alek Wek, Kate Moss, etc). Tyra was more like, 'oh that really pretty one who also has parts in fresh prince!' She was known but not as a supermodel.
Tyra reminds me of one of those girl who you love and feel bad for because they are so cute and have been wronged by so many people, but then she burns you and you find out she is the common denominator in toxic relationships...
He wasn't the nicest person either, i remember a lot of times that he was rude.
Exactly! Why is he acting like he didn't have his own issues on the show? He was just as much a bitch as he claims Tyra was. He's suddenly coming out with his "story" because he has a book to sell.
Unorthodox Baby Thank you??
But remember what you see on ANTM is based on the power of the edit
Absolutely agree. He was so aggressive and patronizing.
They're all toxic
I feel he is full of sh*t. We can’t fact check anything he says. And he was really rude in the show. He’s not taking responsibility just passing the blame. Yes, Tyra probably did do the things he said but I’m sure he wanted a cheque, which is also why he’s promoting a book about all of this.
Let’s explain the Americans Next Top Model episode where they do black face 🐸☕️
Right like let's discuss and that's on big dot
Tea 🐸☕️
The true tea🐸☕
4:39 is where he says he's uncomfortable with the swap
😂 it was for a photo. Get over it. 🙄
youtube shady for putting this in my recommended with Tyra about to host DWTS lol.
Blue Eyes 🤣🤣🤣
I was just thinking that😂they wanna drag the bitch for drama ahead of the show
Trya Banks “claims” body positivity, yet all throughout the show she and the other judges, aka mostly the woman that was the first ever supermodel, body shamed a plus sized, who really is not plus size, telling girls that they need to lose weight or gain weight.
also forced one (dani evans, winner of season five i think) to fill the gap on her teeth, even after she refused, making a big fuss on it, when years later, she forced another girl to CREATE the same gap!
I remember she told one woman she was borderline anorexic on the show.
@@Digmer RIGHT I remember thinking how fucking bizarre it was to see her ask a girl to SHAVE HER TEETH to make her gap more prominent.
Her name was janice Dickinson and she told toccarra she needed to lose 150 pounds!!!! So wrong and toxic
Yes so I began to question "Well why did you pick them then, out of thousands of girls that were hustling to be on that show?"
“Pressure”? “Fear based culture”?? The way he treated many of the contestants on photo shoots was totally unacceptable. He would basically bully them and reduce many of them to tears with his constant negative criticism.
I always felt Tyra made the show more about herself. The first 30 mins was always about her and the drama, but the second 30 was the photoshoots which I preferred. I also didn't believe "real models" had to do such crazy shoots they had to do on the show. Maybe once in a great while but Tyra was constantly endangering them and torturing. One episode a girl talked about fear of spiders, next day SPIDER PHOTOSHOOT. Another's best friend died, next day CEMETERY PHOTOSHOOT. I would record the show and fast forward to just watch the photos. The Jay's and Nigel were definitely more helpful but Mr. Jay was rude half the time. I was all about Nigel and Ms. Jay. They were honest but constructive.
I totally lost all interest etc in tyra the second she went off on that model screaming at her. Kudos to the girl for keeping her cool cause some people would have dragged her ass up and down that studio
That model needed to hear what Tyra was telling her.
Eriq Glyptis a lot of people deal with emotions different. there was no need to talk to someone like that non zero
@@eriqglyptis8816 Totally agree with you
Marcus to me, Tyra showed she really cared for her by doing that. She had been given so much guidance and she was not taking it. Tyra needed to wake her up.
Eriq Glyptis maybe it’s just different cultures then because that would never ever happen in the U.K. lol
i didn’t know he was black! No wonder he doesn’t age
His dad is white. Mom is black
Same
@ he said he's biracial; him being adopted is irrelevant to that fact 🙄
Jean Andre it’s the other way around, mom is white dad is south african cape malay descent
Right had no clue
He was pretty mean to the models as well though. All the judges and hosts were horrible to the girls. Everyone is to blame, but everyone wants to point fingers
You know they have scripts right?
I don't remember Miss Jay doing anything horrible?
@@lavafishswims1635 will do your research better because he did some horrible things
So absolutely true true!!!!
@@lavafishswims1635 I forgot the RUclipsrs name but there is a photographer that reacts to ATM photo shoots and she really points out how they are all pretty horrible towards the girls
Just because they’re “celebs” doesn’t mean they can’t be a narcissist, or be toxic in some other way
If anything celebrities are the MOST narcissistic individuals of society. It's basically written in the occupation.
Thank. You. I am so sick of this obsessive celebrity worship culture. It's sick. It reminds me of people who defend John K.
Even really good people change when they've been famous for a LONG time.
Quite the contrary.
Fame itself is toxic so
He LOOKS GOOD & HEALTHY...
HE TAKES VERY GOOD CARE OF HIMSELF!!💙😄
Right? Literally what I just said! He looks very good!
He looks fabulous.
It's called make up... Make up really does wonders
Even when they replaced him it wasn’t the same at all
Personally, I thought Jay was almost as problematic as Tyra.
Naomi will always be a true Icon👸🏿 in my eyes because she has never pretended to be anything else, and owned who she is fully.
I remember how in Season 3 of America’s Next Top Model, Tyra constantly put down Yaya DeCosta telling her that her confidence came across as arrogance ... and all she was doing was just being the amazing intellectual beauty she is.
Yaya become a super successful actress and she won most of the challenges she should've won antm
She was a good actor on Chicago Med
She took out all her triggers related to her envy of Naomi out on the girls! Like damn, Alexa play obsessed.
She was in season 3 btw
@@rosie5348 thank you for the correction , let me edit the post☺️💫
He’s a pretty man. I had no idea he is black. I thought he was a Latino.
He’s black ??? I’m still watching the video . I assumed he was Latino
Omg news to me! I thought he was Latino too
He’s Canadian too!
I think he’s like all three and I’m here for it 😻
Black isn’t an ethnicity? He specifically said he’s South African and bi-racial.
It’s funny how Tyra has talked about the negative treatment she received from Naomi Campbell when she first started in the business yeah she has treated many people “allegedly” the same way or worse.
I heard they didn't get along..I wonder if this is the only reason..
They don't get along because they are too much alike. You know 2 people with the same demeanors cannot be together.
@@eliatorres2486 - I could totally see that as being true.
I think jay calls his book “fiction” in order to avoid lawsuits by certain people (Tyra, ken mok)
Haven’t watched this show in about 12 years and yet here I am getting the tea 😅
He may have felt uncomfortable at times, or he may not. But he was just as problematic and complicit as the rest, and I think he often enjoyed the models' discomfort and laughing at them.
Wow, he's always been handsome but damn.. he's like a fine wine. I imagine she's a pretty difficult personality to work with. Not a bad person just an intense vibe from her
Samuel Kill So r u babe
No really that man has been delicious forever 😭😂😍
🥰
Why didn't the interviewers press him on things that he definitely personally decided to do to contestants?
Good question. No idea...
I had no idea that his parents were South African. Such a humble & beautiful human being.
Homeboy 😂, umkhaya. I had no clue either but happy to find out he has South African roots. I love him.
He is so lovely!! Was blessed to model for his makeup range when he sold in the UK. He is so kind, and personable. And he looks so good in real life. Beautiful human
1:43 "She wouldn't talk to me unless the cameras were rolling"
Very Pearl exposing RuPaul vibes
Everybody knows that about Tyra
They were once close and good friends and she really relied heavily on him because he was great at what he did for the show. I think she took it personal when instead she should have been professional about it. Because he was her friend I think she felt betrayed when she wanted him back even though his contract ended and he didn't want to go back because he wanted to pursue other things. Friends are supposed to have each others back and be there when in need, so maybe she needed his help and when he declined she felt betrayed by her friend and that is when things started to go down hill. Things were said and he went back but not willingly so I'm sure that must have made the set awkward for them and that could be one of the reasons why she didn't speak to him when the cameras weren't rolling. The disadvantage thing about working with friends or family in a business setting is that when handling conflicts sometimes you lose yourself in a professional manner and it becomes personal, you feel hurt and or betrayed and that for sure will take a huge toll in your relationships. Lastly, Tyra is retired, but was a famous model known all over the world. Jay, never knew he existed until top model. Lol. Jay needs to be more appreciative of Tyra and less salty and sassy. She boosted his career. Be grateful not ungrateful. That's all.
That’s different. RuPaul and Pearl were host and contestant. You don’t have a relationship with them to start with and you can’t (as a host) put yourself in a position that may show favouritism. But with Tyra and Jay, they were work colleagues, they worked with each other behind the scenes and before cameras were rolling. It’s like having an everyday office partnership compared to a client relationship. There’s a certain distance you keep with clients.
@@jamgart6880 I understand that but you NEVER say to a contestant "nothing you say matters unless the cameras are rolling". You just dont say that to someone because that crushes someone spirit and drive in the competition and we saw it on Season 7. Also Ru has favouritism of queens she favours those who are popular and forgets other Queens
Hayyaan Hussain Ru is a diva , the contestants are like minions to him !
I recently found cycle 1 on one of my old hard drives, and decided to watch it with my boyfriend (to show him who the amazing Elyse Sewell was). I was surprised how much of an actual modelling bootcamp it was. They showed multiple shots on the monitor at the photoshoot, Jay was giving actual directions, the shoots made some sense... Such a difference from the later cycles: "So TODAY you will be BUNGEE JUMPING above this tiny pool, you have to make a splash with your pinky toe and oh, yeah, you only have ONE SHOT!"
So much truth! It became a freak show; Fear Factor for Models.
🤣🤣🤣
I always thought Tyra was a fake gal! The audience isn’t stupid! We all saw her “sweet fake persona!” Plus... my friends and I always thought Tyra made pretty girls look horrible in their makeovers! So awfully sad 😱
The makeovers are awful!!
She had them fix their teeth 😬
I’m glad that Tyra’s toxicity is FINALLY coming to light!!!
strange enough that nobody noticed it before. it was right in the spotlight to be seen during all those antm-years!
Aww, love Jay. He seemed very genuine.
Everybody getting exposed in 2020! haha.
And the girl on the left looks so much like dua lipa.
He definitely has a Super ambiguous look indeed.
I didn't know until like a decade ago he was just black & white, and he's from Toronto like me.
He can literally pass for Black, Latino, East Indian, Middle Eastern even white, like a darker Italian or Greek, Indigenous.
East African (like Ethiopian, etc). Very unique.
I was there for her first ever episode of her talk show. It took 4 hours to record because she kept messing up her lines and she had to start all over since it was one take. By the third hour ovee half the audience left because it took forever. I stayed the whole 4 hours. When it finally ended she didn't even thank the audience for staying. And there was literally 15 of us left. She just walked away. She has always been a bitch. Im glad Naomi made her life miserable!
What a SNAKE of a human! He is NOT innocent in any of this.
Tyra has a horrible reputation! Speaks volumes.........
I’m honestly disappointed in Tyra treating her
Colleagues like that when she knows how it felt to be bullied.
She treated the models worse and these colleagues allowed it. So good for them. No one should be treated that way and they thought they were so special and that treatment was only reserved for the models? Suckers.
I’m no psychologist, but Tyra’s behaviour (acting differently when the cameras on, then to coldness once they’re off), and being aloof throughout an entire season, not to mention blaming others actions (Naomi) but never taking accountability for their own similar behaviours, sounds like narcissism. The apologies could also be purely to maintain a favourable public image rather than being genuine.
I remember when the first top model came on I was so sadden when the other girl got rob of winning. I never watched again.
The show has issues always have and I hope and pray this crap changes. Tyra is a very mean and cruel person to work with.And she is not fair.
It seems very Histrionic to me, but I do love Tyra
I always just thought Tyra was dumb. Like, someone who only thought about themselves and didn’t really earn a character.
These types of people spent most of their childhoods being admired for physical appearances and always being told what they want to hear
.it leaves little room for character development, selflessness or compassion towards others that doesn't somehow benefit them..narcissism is an understatement.
She’s a little histrionic
Just disgusting the way they treated these models. Ridiculous
I’m not saying that Jay wasn’t rude because there were moments when he was. However, you’ll never truly know what happens behind the scenes because baby the way they edit these things be killing me.
That's true, but some of the things he's said to the models were just rude, and uncalled for. Even without the full context.
That's true what you say about editing but there's no way to edit in the fact that he dismissed a Keenyah's sexual harassment during a photo shoot. And I'd say that's way beyond being rude
@@rabbit__ I never said he wasn’t rude though 🥴
@@romancandleofthewild again, I never said he wasn’t rude. 🤷🏽♀️
@@ashCASH198 your comment reads as you giving an excuse for what is, quite frankly, inexcusable behavior. The fact that two different people have read your comment as you excusing his behavior should tell you something.
Also, imagine what poor behavior got cut out, using your editing argument.
They were ALL mean girls!! The WHOLE panel!! Except Twiggy. She was sweet during her tenure on the show.
5:38 Yeah, like the judges, including Jay, would say to the models: "Those are all excuses, suck it up". Well, Jay, suck it up, you're the creative director. Act like one, do something about it and direct creatively.
Why are we pretending like that show was anything but reality tv? These people are snakes. Go away forever.
Tyra has always been phony to me. She kept up this persona as the sweet nice model but she did try to ruin Naomi calling her a bully and play the victim and she really was just as bad. No models like her and everyone is not wrong.
He literally has not aged a day. I swear he almost looks younger than he did in the first few seasons of the show
And damn, Jay Manuel ages like a fine wine, getting better with age. Life goals💕💯
Fine fine delicious wine 🍷
Right?!! He looks exactly the same, just a silver fox now🐺... I've always really liked him but never knew his background, was fascinated to find out he's South African! I'm definitely one of those guilty people that assumed he was a Black Latino, particularly because of his last name... goes to show, you just never know!
Omg yes!!! Flawless ✨
This gay man 🙄 AIN'T thinking about you and will sleep with your husband if he could HE'S NOT OUR FRIEND QA STRAIGHT WOMEN
He has a lot of Botox and filler but regardless he looks amazing!
Love that he got the same feelings and treatment that he gave to the contestants 😆
He deserves it.
He was besties with Tyra. Birds of a feather flock together no empathy over here. Just treat people how you would want to be treated. I’m sure they only fell out over money issues. When that bank account is not looking right or someone feels cheated out of a deal. All of a sudden she’s an enemy. When people show you who they are believe them. He just never thought the day would come that she would do something to him. This has nothing to do with how she treated none of those people on the show. Now that for sure is a fact. Probably the only fact.
I remember when Tyra thought it was a good idea to give a contestant the Brigitte Bardot/ Laura Hinton look and essentially shaved the sides of her teeth (centimeter on each side). To this day I feel bad for the poor girl. I feel like Tyra used some of those poor girls as experiments/ human toys just to be creative and have fun with when it came time for the make over. At that age and especially in a competition where you think your life could change forever if you win, they had no voice and just wanted to please everyone and win. They were so young and vulnerable. I feel bad for all those poor girls and hope their strong, confident women now.
As for Ms. Banks, have no idea why abc casted her as a Dancing with the Stars host with her bad rap. I will never buy any products from the companies she does business with in the future.
It is an industry based kn LOOKS. What do u expect?
@@Figgyego Yes, love. Her name is Chelsey from Cycle 15 I believe. She had a little bit of a gap and Tyra decided she wanted more. There’s clips out there of the incident. Hair is one thing, it will grow back. Shaving teeth is a completely out of line.
@@ertfgghhhh Exactly, it’s based on looks! I’d expect Tyra to enhance their looks or let some of the girls stay as they are. Not give them weird and unflattering looks. She gave so many beautiful girls very ugly looks. Including giving pageant queens (Yes more than 1) short, unflattering haircuts. They looked so much better before and both felt uncomfortable with their looks afterwards. She did it for the shear purpose of playing God. She’s a very self centered person that constantly talks about herself. Comedians make fun of her for it. Heck, there’s montages about her talking about herself. So maybe it’s a self confidence thing to tear down a few pretty girls that are more youthful than her? Or maybe she really is just nasty.
I won't watch dancing with the stars anymore I can't stand tyra
It would always rub me the wrong way when she’d say “as a model you want all the girls to want to be you and to make all the guys want to be with you.” This is such an airhead thing to say. As a model, you want to give people confidence to BE THEMSELVES not try to look like or be like someone else. Couldn’t get jiggy with that
That's literally how you sell products - people being themselves don't sell products - a model would never promote that.
It's a superficial industry. No depth. Just perception.
Your just as guilty as Tyra, don’t try to distance yourself.
He sounds like he has a good head on shoulders
Well done, matey
I honestly never thought the race swap shoot was Jays idea. Something about his expressions made me think he was under pressure. I honestly thought it was a Tyra idea, just seemed the kind of tone deaf thing she’s suggest
Tyra probably called him after this and told him he needed to speak up if he was so uncomfortable like she did with Caridee getting hypothermia in the pool, as if these people don’t know they’ll be punished for bailing due to unbearable discomfort.😂
she was careless, all she cared for as herself and her stupid fake show
They both aren't easy people to deal with. He was a bully thorough-out the show and so was she.
Jay Manuel is a legend in his own mind .
All of them behaved really badly. So disappointed about this show that I adored when I was a kid. I’m not on Tyra’s side nor on his side. Why is he like that?
That’s why Naomi Campbell put Tyra in her place.
Untrue. Tyra ws bullied by Naomi Campbell. Naomi remembers some things herself, and also apologises to Tyra. If you wish to, I suggest looking up the video of, "Naomi and Tyra" on the Tyra show. The two now get along as sisters, and have been good for many years.
@@violetgirl1996 maybe because Tyra was a bully herself and Naomi saw past the bs
@@violetgirl1996 they don’t get along as sisters 🤣 they don’t like each other, Naomi shared an article saying that Tyra was the real mean girl!!
Like he was all sweet candy.😏
The whole crew of ANTM made the set toxic for rating.
For a moment I was like “you don’t get a pass when you contributed to the shows detrimental atmosphere”, but then I remember he mentioned the contract that so much of this behind the scenes stuff is so forced and contracts bind people from leaving, disagreeing or even speaking on it until they’re out of it. Sometimes people never get out of a contract. That is such an evil side of show business on every platform, even in the music industry. Signing a contract is like selling your soul because that’s how it feels while you have to endure watching horrible things happening and not being able to blow the whistle or close your eyes to it. Still, accountability is necessary, but I imagine fear and brainwashing will hinder that.
True but honestly I commend him moving forward and doing better not gonna over praise because people should try to better themselves but still alot of people never change or even try to so I guess he aight.
Wendy Gioni that’s so true. It’s better to admit you were wrong and didn’t realize at the time than pretending you were never part of the problem.
@@lillystryker8570 Exactly btw I like your profile picture
Wendy Gioni thank you!
While I understand this.. I don’t see how he is taking accountability tho? All I see is how bad he had it with Naomi and the show.
I’m not surprised about Tyra’s behavior: but it’s sad that she would ruin a friendship!
They were all willingly cruel to the contestants. Tyra is stunning, but it’s pretty obvious if you don’t worship her then she doesn’t respect you.
It was so weird how she was treated like a demi God on that show. Her photos were everywhere and everything was about worshipping Tyra. It was really bizzare.
m.ruclips.net/video/jgqMnm9qpDA/видео.html
Stunning? She is so ugly inside that honestly I can‘t see any beauty on the outside either. She is kind of an evil and cruel person.
She was the victim of Naomi but now she becomes the monster herself, sometimes its just like that, victims who becomes abusers.
Agreed. I see Taylor Swift in the same light.
she was not a victim of naomi, that’s a lil much lol
At the same time, narcissists will always paint themselves as a victim. I don’t remember, but have other models come out to say Naomi was indeed a bully? Or has it only been Tyra?
Tyra is grown she allowed ppl to walk over her that’s on her
At least Naomi owns up to it she knows what she’s is
Hurt people hurt people
Lol Mr.Jay trying to act like he is innocent in Americans next top model😂😂😂 I have seen many many times on the show how he treated the models like garbage...but okay honey...OKAY
Yes girl you’re right
Yup. I honestly think they are all alike.