This is still a really good premium. Not the fastest in a straight line but it is more agile than many tanks at 9.3. T72AV on the other hand has insanely low win rate ATM, because almost all Soviet line players have only T72AV or T72M2, and quit after 1 death.
@@collander7766 Why isn't it shit? Its round is okay. It's gun handling is bad. It's mobility is poor. It has no armor to compensate for poor mobility. Gen 1 thermals are nice, but gen 2s are as low as 8.0 now. The tech tree Leo 1A5 is a better tank then the A1A1L44.
@@spray916 it’s just as shit as comparable vehicles from different nations. M60 is worse at basically all of that. The 1A5 is for all intents and purposes basically equal to the L/44 and there’s nothing wrong with that.
@@collander7766 "basically equal" L44 has worse pen, and worse mobility. Only thing the L44 does better is spall due to the 120mm dart. There are many 9.0s that are straight up better vehicles then the L44. AMX-30 Super is a good example. It does everything the L44 does, but does it better in most ways. OF-40MTCA is also a better tank. So it's the XM-803. Why? They're mobility, with a decent round, and good gun handling. Those are just the MBTs off of the top of my head.
I can still remenber when i got it. My friend bullied me into buying it (it was the first thing i bought) When i got it i was awfull because i only played planes and my friend played ita 10.0-10.7. But there where some matches where i was really good i got 4 kills and hopt in to a plane and when i couldent i get in the Leo again. When the summer event was there whit the Mexas i grindet so hard so i had 1 more tank in my line up (it was pain like all events) I would recomend it but dont the same mistacke i did by buying it whitout any toptire experince, i Had luck i that i didint fuck so much up for my team and that if i die i would go in it again or go in a plane. Love the videos Favorit part is always the intro
@@xslashx1908 i havent done the mistake but i have a friend who did it and 1 thats about to do it. I actually grinded all the way to the warrior and chieftains without any premiums. After that i got the best purchase of my life the rooikat its one of the most fun tanks to use at 8.7
L44 has been powercrept. DM13(120) at 9.0 is decent since its a 120, but everything else kinda sucks about it. I'd get TURM III or 2IP over the L44. Buy the 2IP during the upcoming sales an dave yourself 30USD.
@@RaptorsFan2019 I'm thinking it's a much better vehicle with more favorable MM then the 9.0 MM. PzB 2A4 exists now. No reason to buy anything but that.
@@spray916TURM III will still be somewhat useful at 9.0 as well if you get both for grinding purposes so you’ll have a fairly robust lineup if you bring the Gepard, L/44, TURM III, and either the Leopard A1A1 or 1A5 (both are good)
Thanks for doing an updated review on this. I bought this tank a few years ago after watching your original review. It was a great buy. Also I love that your using your original intro music again. Keep up the great work!
I would say that you forgot to say something very important: The mobilty on this thing isn't so bad if you take into consideration the very good neutral steering + reverse speed. It's ideal of peek-a-boo tactics
Basically every tank that’s not Russian can neutral steer. That’s like saying “this car can drive.” Like yeah, I’d sure hope it can. Doesn’t exactly put it ahead of the competition tho
I have the tam 2 ip, Leo l44 and leopard 2 pl. The Leo 1 armor at 10.7 is in real game situations just slightly behind the Leo 2. The Leo 1 is still leaps and bounds ahead of the tam due to the gun and thermals. I am happy with my purchase
@@cheemsman6789 yes... 2a4 is very similar to 2pl but has slightly less armor. I would see if I could get the 2pl instead of the Tam. It's much better to play a leo 2 than a Tam. The 105mm is not as effective as the 120. But the big thing is the thermals.
I bought it as a lineup filler. It was much needed and pretty great back then. But after the last year's developments, with two Leopards in the basic tree, M48Super and Tam, it's become obsolete. And as now we got Puma and Bagel, I barely manage to fit one Leo in the lineup (Bagel/LeoL44/Puma/Tam/M48Super/Gepard/G91). So with the current meta, I'd gladly trade it back and get XM1 or TURM III even, if that was an option. Or at least trade it for a much better TAM2IP and get rid of the Leos in the lineup alltogether.
Eh it's main advantages like it's round thermals and mobility have lost there luster. Quite a few tanks are -faster -better round -a proper gun sight zoom -gen 2 or 3 thermals -better reload -cheaper or are at a better br Or a combination of most of that The german tech tree at 8.7 and 9.0 have surpassed this tanks usefulness for the most part
@@knochi956 but is it $60 good? No not really -Tam2ip with dm33 is amazing at 8.7 -Leopard1a5 is quite comparable to the l44 -Bagel is just the jesus light tank right now -puma is great Etc 8.7-9.0 has such a fantastic lineup the l44 just isn't anything special anymore. Now the days where there was a major gap between the a1a1 and the 2k it was great... but now it just feels like an overpriced side grade
@@aratay3117 Glad I got it almost 2 years ago, it was quite strong at the time, also against others tier VI premium it's the best MBT imho. The gun it's wonderful, the mobility it's good and the survivability it's just fine (you don't need more than 13 APDSFSs) so for 60 $ absolutely not ( I got it by selling coupons on the Gaijin market when It was in sale) but still a good deal if you can get it without spending a cent
@@aratay3117 honestly I have no problem with that. If the L/44 is basically comparable to the 1A5 in every way, I’d say Gaijin did a wonderful job not shitting on everybody’s experience and keeping the game balanced
@@collander7766 actually they did shit on everyone's experience first. The l44 was added in 2018 back before a lot of powercreep so it was very very good. The leopard 1a5 was added in 2020 after they made the lions share of money from the l44. And because there was a gap in brs they would either have half of the teams covered in l44 noobs and I believe the highest br was like 10.0/10.3. So it was a disaster for german winrates
this is one of the coolest tanks in the game even tho it has slightly less pen than the tech tree 1a5, gun fires a faster and larger shell than the 105 which causes more spalling
If you can't choose between the Leo and the TAM 2IP, choose TAM hands down. It's incredibly mobile(!!!), is gonna make you a ton of SL because of scouting and has a great gun with a great round. Go get it!
Tam2IP literally doesn't have thermals which is why it sucks ass, which is the second redeeming attribute of the L44. The L44 is a 120mm gun as well compared to the Tam's 105, mostly one shots any tank it meets at 9.0 br.
They must of buffed the engine because i get launched into the air several times making my way through the caps. This is a mainstay grinder and worth getting
i like it, But to be honest i bought it together with the g91 r4 to make the german grind faster. Would not buy the leopard again if i didn't need to grind tier 3-6
say the a1a1 L/44 was a test bed for the gun... is well I guess kinda right, but the Gun was already In service, so not really the best way of phrasing it. What it was, was a test bed on "Could you upgrade the Leo1 with the Leo2 gun?" the answer being Yes, but ultimately its not a wanted upgrade. If they are going to add a new 9.7 premium for the Germans I hope they would add the Leo 2A0.
I don't think that the TURMS is a better buy than the L44. While the TURMS is probably the better tank, the reality is that games with it are infested with other TURMS owners who are one-and-done and seemingly have little high tier experience. 9.7 in general for any nation means the chance of being on a team of majority TURMS. It's a horrible BR now.
I would not buy it. The tech tree one is almost the same. But most important is that 9 out of 10 battles you will be uptiered to 10.0 and you have no chance against Abramses. The tank is not that fast, has slow turret rotation and does not have any armor. To be honest, I would go for Turm III or TAM 2IP now.
I agree with pretty much everything except saying you don't have a chance against abrams. You don't need to match their speed to get good positions, and killing an abrams even with a long 88 isn't difficult. If you can beat up an xm-1 the abrams isn't much of step up from that
I have a hard time with this tank, i get recked by everything super fast its hard to compete in modern warthunder with this tank. I also just suck at this game lol.
I usually agree with your reviews but with this one I don't. How do you say the Leopard L44 has worse mobility than a T72? The T72 has a bad reverse speed, about 3/4 kph. At least with the Leo I can get out from bad situation and of course whoever loads more than 13 shots in the tank is stupid.
since the summer sale is here im thinking of bying the leopard a1a1 and mig 21 sps k or only the new leapord 2 pzbtl 123 for the same price. What should i buy? pls quick answer since its ending tomorrow :)
I bought this tank about 2 years ago for 50%off I enjoy it but the round in weak and it's a glass tank but what lower lvl leopard isn't 🤷🏻♂️🤣 but I got more kills with my original leopard a1a1 😎
i like the tank sure its a one shot most of the time but i love its sniping ability. Then again WT doesn't make the leopard's for the most part what they are in real life so.
Turm 3, because Begleit, Puma, M48 Super, Leo 1A5 is already forming a good lineup at 9.0. Leo L/44 (while having a good 120mm gun) at this BR bracket got powercreeped as hell, doesn't feel fun and reliable again since "everything" have apfsds and thermal too, while some have some armor to defend itself from autocannon, the Leopard L/44 (basically Leo 1) can't resist autocannon even frontally. Turm 3 at 8.0 have a good and unique armaments, also offers a better gameplay experience and have a place to fill a line up together with Marder 1A3, M48GA2, and Gepard. Source: trust me lmao, grinded german tech tree with leo l/44 but since around 3 years ago
@@athiftsabit1208 Oh I belive you. I just unlocked m48 and now grinding leo 1. I think i ill get the Turm 3. It fits much better in my lineup and doesn't leave a 0.7 BR breach on my tech tree.
Probably one of the worst German premiums, this thing is priced at $60, same as the PzBtl123. Why you would get this instead of the PzBtl is beyond me.
For one, DM13 is not classified as “short rod” and does not in fact do less damage. It’s actually funny because the comments about short rod in this video are completely the opposite of what was said in the T-55amd video. Next, I don’t know how you come to the conclusion that a 19.3 hp/ton tank is sluggish at 9.0 when that’s pretty much average for an mbt. Sluggish is a chieftain, russian tank, m60, etc. Hm what else? Oh the armor values you give are like shots from the heavens with how high you have the camera. On a tank like this it doesn’t matter, but if you want to give good information you should make an effort to use line of sight numbers… Just a trend I’ve noticed. And calling the TAM 2IP worse is honestly a bad take but you can have your opinion.
@@cutthroat795 The L/44 IS sluggish. It's not as mobile as a tank that can be frontally penned by autocannons yet claims to be a medium should be like.
This is still a really good premium. Not the fastest in a straight line but it is more agile than many tanks at 9.3. T72AV on the other hand has insanely low win rate ATM, because almost all Soviet line players have only T72AV or T72M2, and quit after 1 death.
It's a shit premium. It's NOT more agile and it's slow for a Leopard. Other tanks are either faster or more armored.
@@liviuganea4108 it’s definitely not “shit.” Easily a very competitive vehicle. 9.0 just isn’t necessarily the best BR
@@collander7766 Why isn't it shit? Its round is okay. It's gun handling is bad. It's mobility is poor. It has no armor to compensate for poor mobility. Gen 1 thermals are nice, but gen 2s are as low as 8.0 now. The tech tree Leo 1A5 is a better tank then the A1A1L44.
@@spray916 it’s just as shit as comparable vehicles from different nations. M60 is worse at basically all of that. The 1A5 is for all intents and purposes basically equal to the L/44 and there’s nothing wrong with that.
@@collander7766 "basically equal" L44 has worse pen, and worse mobility. Only thing the L44 does better is spall due to the 120mm dart. There are many 9.0s that are straight up better vehicles then the L44. AMX-30 Super is a good example. It does everything the L44 does, but does it better in most ways. OF-40MTCA is also a better tank. So it's the XM-803. Why? They're mobility, with a decent round, and good gun handling. Those are just the MBTs off of the top of my head.
I can still remenber when i got it.
My friend bullied me into buying it (it was the first thing i bought)
When i got it i was awfull because i only played planes and my friend played ita 10.0-10.7.
But there where some matches where i was really good i got 4 kills and hopt in to a plane and when i couldent i get in the Leo again.
When the summer event was there whit the Mexas i grindet so hard so i had 1 more tank in my line up (it was pain like all events)
I would recomend it but dont the same mistacke i did by buying it whitout any toptire experince, i Had luck i that i didint fuck so much up for my team and that if i die i would go in it again or go in a plane.
Love the videos
Favorit part is always the intro
Oh my god. For me the same. It was my first premium and I had to play with a friend who play ITA 10.0😂 It was a great time
@@xslashx1908 i havent done the mistake but i have a friend who did it and 1 thats about to do it. I actually grinded all the way to the warrior and chieftains without any premiums. After that i got the best purchase of my life the rooikat its one of the most fun tanks to use at 8.7
L44 has been powercrept. DM13(120) at 9.0 is decent since its a 120, but everything else kinda sucks about it. I'd get TURM III or 2IP over the L44. Buy the 2IP during the upcoming sales an dave yourself 30USD.
Turms gets trash team
@@youlaughyouphill842 TURM III is the new 8.0 German premium. Not TURMS AV
@@RaptorsFan2019 I'm thinking it's a much better vehicle with more favorable MM then the 9.0 MM. PzB 2A4 exists now. No reason to buy anything but that.
@@spray916 false statement im pretty sure, oddbawz has a good explanation for the PzB
@@spray916TURM III will still be somewhat useful at 9.0 as well if you get both for grinding purposes so you’ll have a fairly robust lineup if you bring the Gepard, L/44, TURM III, and either the Leopard A1A1 or 1A5 (both are good)
Thanks for doing an updated review on this. I bought this tank a few years ago after watching your original review. It was a great buy. Also I love that your using your original intro music again. Keep up the great work!
Bought it half off on the last sale and have enjoyed it, I’m up to 9.3 now with its help.
Why "medium" tank when can light tank.
Because more armor and better
@@hansloyalitat9774 no armor is better:)
@@Ride2Vibe no armor best armor
@@hansloyalitat9774 at this BR armor not as effective as you think.
@@crazyadam9281 USSR tanks full of ERA always bounce shots, atleast when im using them
I would say that you forgot to say something very important: The mobilty on this thing isn't so bad if you take into consideration the very good neutral steering + reverse speed. It's ideal of peek-a-boo tactics
It IS very fucking bad. Autocannons can go through the front of the turret. But you don't get the mobility for such a tradeoff.
@@liviuganea4108 why are you seething
Basically every tank that’s not Russian can neutral steer. That’s like saying “this car can drive.” Like yeah, I’d sure hope it can. Doesn’t exactly put it ahead of the competition tho
I have the tam 2 ip, Leo l44 and leopard 2 pl. The Leo 1 armor at 10.7 is in real game situations just slightly behind the Leo 2. The Leo 1 is still leaps and bounds ahead of the tam due to the gun and thermals. I am happy with my purchase
do you think running the premium 2A4, the Tam 2IP and the A1A1 L/44 would be a good lineup if you wanna grind germany?
@@cheemsman6789 yes... 2a4 is very similar to 2pl but has slightly less armor. I would see if I could get the 2pl instead of the Tam. It's much better to play a leo 2 than a Tam. The 105mm is not as effective as the 120. But the big thing is the thermals.
This is a super radical idea but give this thing DM33 so it's at least got a good thing going for it
I bought it as a lineup filler. It was much needed and pretty great back then. But after the last year's developments, with two Leopards in the basic tree, M48Super and Tam, it's become obsolete. And as now we got Puma and Bagel, I barely manage to fit one Leo in the lineup (Bagel/LeoL44/Puma/Tam/M48Super/Gepard/G91). So with the current meta, I'd gladly trade it back and get XM1 or TURM III even, if that was an option. Or at least trade it for a much better TAM2IP and get rid of the Leos in the lineup alltogether.
Eh it's main advantages like it's round thermals and mobility have lost there luster.
Quite a few tanks are
-faster
-better round
-a proper gun sight zoom
-gen 2 or 3 thermals
-better reload
-cheaper or are at a better br
Or a combination of most of that
The german tech tree at 8.7 and 9.0 have surpassed this tanks usefulness for the most part
The gun is pretty good for the BR tho, all German tanks at 8.7 have the 105mm.
@@knochi956 but is it $60 good?
No not really
-Tam2ip with dm33 is amazing at 8.7
-Leopard1a5 is quite comparable to the l44
-Bagel is just the jesus light tank right now
-puma is great
Etc
8.7-9.0 has such a fantastic lineup the l44 just isn't anything special anymore.
Now the days where there was a major gap between the a1a1 and the 2k it was great... but now it just feels like an overpriced side grade
@@aratay3117 Glad I got it almost 2 years ago, it was quite strong at the time, also against others tier VI premium it's the best MBT imho. The gun it's wonderful, the mobility it's good and the survivability it's just fine (you don't need more than 13 APDSFSs) so for 60 $ absolutely not ( I got it by selling coupons on the Gaijin market when It was in sale) but still a good deal if you can get it without spending a cent
@@aratay3117 honestly I have no problem with that. If the L/44 is basically comparable to the 1A5 in every way, I’d say Gaijin did a wonderful job not shitting on everybody’s experience and keeping the game balanced
@@collander7766 actually they did shit on everyone's experience first.
The l44 was added in 2018 back before a lot of powercreep so it was very very good. The leopard 1a5 was added in 2020 after they made the lions share of money from the l44.
And because there was a gap in brs they would either have half of the teams covered in l44 noobs and I believe the highest br was like 10.0/10.3. So it was a disaster for german winrates
this is one of the coolest tanks in the game even tho it has slightly less pen than the tech tree 1a5, gun fires a faster and larger shell than the 105 which causes more spalling
If you can't choose between the Leo and the TAM 2IP, choose TAM hands down. It's incredibly mobile(!!!), is gonna make you a ton of SL because of scouting and has a great gun with a great round. Go get it!
Tam2IP literally doesn't have thermals which is why it sucks ass, which is the second redeeming attribute of the L44. The L44 is a 120mm gun as well compared to the Tam's 105, mostly one shots any tank it meets at 9.0 br.
I bought this thing when I was a level 7, 3 1/2 years ago when I first started playing lol
They must of buffed the engine because i get launched into the air several times making my way through the caps. This is a mainstay grinder and worth getting
i like it,
But to be honest i bought it together with the g91 r4 to make the german grind faster.
Would not buy the leopard again if i didn't need to grind tier 3-6
I bought this yesterday, and Its fun. I had to get used to higher br, but once I did. It was easy going. And now research is finally progressing fast
say the a1a1 L/44 was a test bed for the gun... is well I guess kinda right, but the Gun was already In service, so not really the best way of phrasing it. What it was, was a test bed on "Could you upgrade the Leo1 with the Leo2 gun?" the answer being Yes, but ultimately its not a wanted upgrade.
If they are going to add a new 9.7 premium for the Germans I hope they would add the Leo 2A0.
I don't think that the TURMS is a better buy than the L44. While the TURMS is probably the better tank, the reality is that games with it are infested with other TURMS owners who are one-and-done and seemingly have little high tier experience.
9.7 in general for any nation means the chance of being on a team of majority TURMS. It's a horrible BR now.
man that's Russia 8.3 all the way up with exception of the very top tier tanks. It's miserable playing them right now.
This tank nukes everything at its BR and higher. very fun epic yes. yes there are more "value" vehicles but this tank is seriously fun
Just when I thought about buying it somewhen, this chad right here drops a video on it.
I would not buy it. The tech tree one is almost the same. But most important is that 9 out of 10 battles you will be uptiered to 10.0 and you have no chance against Abramses.
The tank is not that fast, has slow turret rotation and does not have any armor. To be honest, I would go for Turm III or TAM 2IP now.
I agree with pretty much everything except saying you don't have a chance against abrams. You don't need to match their speed to get good positions, and killing an abrams even with a long 88 isn't difficult.
If you can beat up an xm-1 the abrams isn't much of step up from that
Please make the best premium? Due to may sales, I want to make sure I don't lose money on what I buy. Love you!
Nice to see a revisit on this bad kitty!
Recently tried while grinding Puma and didn't like it. I have much better time with Tam-2ip at 8.7 alone than 9.0 with l44
It's nice you are revisiting the really old prems to see how they stack with the new vehicles and rating metrics of today's Warthunder
I have a hard time with this tank, i get recked by everything super fast its hard to compete in modern warthunder with this tank. I also just suck at this game lol.
not really your fault when the ammo rack is next to the driver, any player who knows where to aim will 1 shot it 100% of the time.
I rarely play that thing because the gun sucks.
The 105 L7 has better pen but 60 bucks for a bit more spall?
Nah.
Not worthy for a premium anymore, too average. Might as well buy the Turm 3 instead
I usually agree with your reviews but with this one I don't. How do you say the Leopard L44 has worse mobility than a T72? The T72 has a bad reverse speed, about 3/4 kph. At least with the Leo I can get out from bad situation and of course whoever loads more than 13 shots in the tank is stupid.
Hey sako any chance you remake the Type 74 G review?
Would it be worth as a german top tier grinder if bought during the upcoming sale as the turm doesnt grind tier VI ?
How do I activate the thermals. when i try to activate them it's just a red Blur
Leopard 1s are so cool.
I don't like them, they're fast and all but they lack armor and somewhat firepower.
I rather play with the 120s
@@asu-5748never get shot in the Leo that's how you play the damn thing same as of40
How do the gen one thermals look like that? It looks way fuzzier on my monitor and I run 1440p.
the first gen thermal always blurry.
Seriously, don't use it.
Do am updated xm-1(gm) video
Actually it is one of the tanks i consider getting in the may sales with the giajin coins that i made in the previous event
Please review the MIG-21S as GE will be on sale and it is an interesting plane in it’s BR considering it’s characteristics
The turms t is a fucking bullshit magnet it bounces so many shots and just has stupidly trolly armor
yes get it, 120mm gun ,termals and the german 9.0 lineup is as broken as the 11.0 lineup for sovjets, guaranteed atleast 55% winrate
since the summer sale is here im thinking of bying the leopard a1a1 and mig 21 sps k or only the new leapord 2 pzbtl 123 for the same price. What should i buy? pls quick answer since its ending tomorrow :)
what did you bought?
Can you do a tank controls tutorial cause I want some better ones thanks
I bought this tank about 2 years ago for 50%off I enjoy it but the round in weak and it's a glass tank but what lower lvl leopard isn't 🤷🏻♂️🤣 but I got more kills with my original leopard a1a1 😎
Also available in world of tanks console to
i like the tank sure its a one shot most of the time but i love its sniping ability. Then again WT doesn't make the leopard's for the most part what they are in real life so.
The amount of videos on this tank you have is insane
Question is this or turm 3?. I am waiting on may discounts for one of this 2 tanks
Turm 3, because Begleit, Puma, M48 Super, Leo 1A5 is already forming a good lineup at 9.0. Leo L/44 (while having a good 120mm gun) at this BR bracket got powercreeped as hell, doesn't feel fun and reliable again since "everything" have apfsds and thermal too, while some have some armor to defend itself from autocannon, the Leopard L/44 (basically Leo 1) can't resist autocannon even frontally.
Turm 3 at 8.0 have a good and unique armaments, also offers a better gameplay experience and have a place to fill a line up together with Marder 1A3, M48GA2, and Gepard.
Source: trust me lmao, grinded german tech tree with leo l/44 but since around 3 years ago
@@athiftsabit1208 Oh I belive you. I just unlocked m48 and now grinding leo 1. I think i ill get the Turm 3. It fits much better in my lineup and doesn't leave a 0.7 BR breach on my tech tree.
@@athiftsabit1208 i grinded with Turm 3, Gepard and Marder 1A3 and pretty much good.
the premium merkava 2D is better now
How so?
@@Emorejets Just is, this vehicle has been power crept by other premiums. The Merkava is more survivable and more versatile.
@@Kwisss Not if I see you first pal.
Should you buy jak 38
We would need Leo2 pzbtl 123 review
It's a 2A4 with a Camo net lol.
xm1 2022 review ?
Seems like it needs to snipe
I spent 30€ on it like a year or two back cant play it now because i dont have enough sl.
Im just bad at the game and dont make any money
I hob mi in di hos geschisne
Attempt 4 of asking you to review the USS Moffett
Working on it
Still a better premium than the of40 mtca
NO!
The TAM 2 IP is better than this lol
☝️
Probably one of the worst German premiums, this thing is priced at $60, same as the PzBtl123. Why you would get this instead of the PzBtl is beyond me.
No get the Freebruhms
I can name few tanks which have aged worse
honestly, sloppy review. There's stuff that is just straight up wrong man...
Like? The L/44 sucks now. I'd rather get the XM-1 at 9.3 which is much faster, has better armor and somewhat lower pen.
Such as?
For one, DM13 is not classified as “short rod” and does not in fact do less damage. It’s actually funny because the comments about short rod in this video are completely the opposite of what was said in the T-55amd video.
Next, I don’t know how you come to the conclusion that a 19.3 hp/ton tank is sluggish at 9.0 when that’s pretty much average for an mbt. Sluggish is a chieftain, russian tank, m60, etc. Hm what else? Oh the armor values you give are like shots from the heavens with how high you have the camera. On a tank like this it doesn’t matter, but if you want to give good information you should make an effort to use line of sight numbers… Just a trend I’ve noticed. And calling the TAM 2IP worse is honestly a bad take but you can have your opinion.
@@cutthroat795 The L/44 IS sluggish. It's not as mobile as a tank that can be frontally penned by autocannons yet claims to be a medium should be like.
China?