Beginner's Guide To The Soviet Tech Tree - SAKO SNIPER
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Intro (0:00)
Rank 1 (0:39)
Rank 2 (5:46)
Rank 3 (11:30)
Rank 4 (16:09)
Rank 5 (23:00)
Rank 6 (28:33)
Rank 7 (45:14)
Conclusion (53:09)
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8:32 "GIRTH over LENGTH" words to live by
I would disagree with your assessment of the SU-122. That thing has T-34 armor at BR 2.3. That thing is bouncy as hell, even more so than the KV tanks later on. The gun is also very good. The 122mm HE round is able to overpressure most targets with the HEAT round having very high penetration should the need arise.
I love low-tier armored vehicles with huge guns, like StuH 42G, Sherman with a 105 mm gun and this SU-122, the main thing is not to expose the sweet sides
it also has very good gun traverse speeds from side to side which is pretty surprising for a lower tier vehicles
It's mantlets armor is utter useless, early panzer 3s can breech it
Man, I remember playing the SU-122 back when HE shells just outright killed anything they hit.
It was the greatest of times :)
I was using panzer 38t this guy shots at me misses he keeps missing so I had to slowly pound at his barrel and then get righ of his tracks then hpget him from the side
"Crew's helmet is the Thickest part of the armor" was wild on ZIS-30
If you think the SU-122 is "mediocre" you literally have skill issue and should get good.
Thing is so fun you act like a heavy mobile mortar cannon
su 122 is literally god tier
The reload time is the only issue and it's very easy to kill
@@cowboythomas5904 it has alot of armor tho
@@zedriver7678 armor wouldn’t matter if the enemy your up against have skills so it 70% workable and 30% bad
20:34 T-44 HEAVY AND SLOW??? Bruh one of its main selling point is it weight and speed. It's lighter than the T-34 (31 vs 32.2 tons)
it feels much slower since it has been moved to 6.7 or it can be the fact that I'm used to Top tier now
@@YoRHaUnit2Babe coming to the 44 from the 34 it's noticeably faster, better acceleration, better manoeuvrability imo
I find the T-44 has better top speed than the T-34 but is no faster in terms of acceleration or close quarters manoeuvring.
POV: twitter
I think this guy is either a bit new to the game or he never had to grind because of the content creator program gaijin has. I think he never had the chance to grind out these tanks or never bothered until these videos so he’s not very familiar with things I’ve noticed quite a few times in this video where he’s just plainly wrong. I don’t dislike him at all and in fact I like him but he is wrong sometimes and that’s okay because maybe we are wrong so it’s not something to hate him for.
I think you are underestimating or misunderstanding many of these tanks. The KV-2, SU-122, SU-152, and ISU-152 are fabulous (especially the tank destroyers - which are some of the best in the game). They have HE rounds that demolish any tank you shoot at. The reload is really not much of an issue if you play second line like you are supposed to. The PT-76B is also great once you get the HEAT-FS. The armor is bad, yes, but when you are sneaky and make use of your stabilizer, you rule. The ASU-85 isn't trash, you just need to be careful. The early T-34s are not bad at all, especially the 1942 model. The T-26 family can actually be quite fun, especially the T-26E. The Rank II SPAA vehicles can be incredible against planes, especially the BTR-152A. Lastly, the T-10 was greatly undersold. It's really a good tank, both the A and the M.
I agree
Exactly
you dont even need to load HE , since it can be unreliable and requires you to aim on tank roofs or sides of the tank. If you just loaded the APHEBC, you can go through Jumbo UFP up to 3km, and still have sufficent high explosive power ( 1kg TNT filler in the round), your shots wont be stopped by trees and you can shoot anywhere on any tank and you will penetrate and kill it. no need to aim for a weakspot on the jumbo with the HE rounds (mantlet)
@@petrkdn8224 that is true too, though I just really enjoy blasting tanks apart with 152mm HE
The PT-76 with heat is a fucking menace on a flank bro.
40:34 id beg to differ, the t-64's hull armor may be paper at its tier, but the turret cheeks SOMEHOW eat up dm53 no problem even around the gun mantlet area and is by far the strongest turret in the game for no reason whatsoever ive tested it in top tier matches hull down it can take top tier shell hits
Yeah gaijin needs to fix it
And turn it into paper armor as it was in real life
@@cristobalalvarez5491 wouldnt say exactly paper it could probably still stop early apfsds along with HEAT-FS
That's where self entrenching comes to play ;)
Yea both the T64s were probably my favourite experiences
¿the KV-2 BAD? IT HAS THE POWER OF GODS (and a 10minutes reload yes)
Upgrade your crew. I have something like a 35 second reload which isn’t bad for what it shoots. Just gotta make shots count and aim for the heavies that the t34s and kv1s struggle with
You still need to know where to shoot
Bro skipped the Object 685 and T-72 1989 RIP.
The su 122 is basically a sherman 105 without a turret it's very powerful. Also the pt76 is very good, you have a stabilizer so you always fire first and heatfs pens everything and does decent damage
It’s reload has been buffed since the video I think, it used to be worse because you just fired too slow to compete without any armour
@@Bigwhiteogre wdym the front is strong for the BR
yes pt79b is my favorites tank it's shells are god tier
Really appreciate the work/effort you put into your videos. Games like this can't get enough informational content like tutorials/guides and such.
About T-90:
Yes, it was a somewhat T-62 "reboot". But is more interesting to me, as russian militarist geek - it was the only tank, what was made by people from my city - St. Petersburg.
Yes, others was made - either in Moscow, or in some Ural's cities and etc. But t-90? Hell no, it was a first tank - which was in my city, lol, AFTER A LONG TIME. Yes, actually - before that - St. Petersburg was build tanks (in WW2), but it was KV-series tanks. After that - was A LONG hiatus(?).
And no - there not was re-name-ing actually, there was only in somewhere 1990, new directive to make "New Gen" tanks. And it was produced - but in small scales.
Actually - 1990's Russian Weaponry - was quite experimental. For example - T-90 was have even MORE deep modernizations - like "Knyaz' Vladimir" ("King Vladimir" - you can called it(?). A so called "Y2K-year tank", lol ), or "Black Hawk" (which is funny - still in "Top Secret" Status. Rumors - half of his gimmicks - ended up in Armata's Tanks.)
(Offtop here)
And continuing my words about "Russia was experimenting in 1980-1990" - just look, what was we have: BTR-90, Whole T-90 series, That first actual Soviet/Russian REAL(!) (And last Soviet train) actual High Speed Train ER-200(?) and Russian (first Russian Train) "Sokol" High Speed Train (which, fun fact - was made by Army. Yes, by same people - who, right now, still working on Russian U-boats, lol) , whole AK-rifles was in quite interesting products - "Abakans", AN-94, AEK-971, AK-100 and AK-200 series, AK "Vepr" (For Russian SpetzNaz) and etc. Also, "Buran" Space Shuttle.
There was even Games Consoles made in Russia in that time - "Turnir" and "Electronica" game consoles (There was a "Rambo" and "Dendy" console - but it was clearly a Thailand copycats of Atari 2600, and NES). Even some Soviet Original Computers, but they are even more cost, then Import Counterparts.
Even Last Soviet Cars/First Russian cars was cool - UAZ Symbyr (Predecessor of UAZ Patriot, and last Soviet Era UAZ), Volga-3102 (Last Soviet Volga) and Volga-31029 (First Actual Russian Volga, and the most Corrosive. "Black Sheep" of Volga Series) and even my beloved underrated Volga-3105 ("Turbo-Volga"), AZLK/Moskvistch "Aleko" car, Last Soviet LADA - Lada SAMARA (Or Sputnik - in Russia) and First Russian Lada - Lada "110 Series".
In the end - so much cool stuff was been made in First modern days of Modern Russia. So sad to see - it quickly was either scrapped or quickly shut down for New Series of products (Yes, it even implies to T-90 and BTR-90). Eh, good times. Sry - for that BIG wall of text, but it really was a cool era of Russia.
Oh didnt know that
actually Kirov was killed by a Trotsky supporter, because Kirov kicked him from the party or some shit, if Stalin did have Kirov killed he wouldnt had attended his funeral,or referred Kirov as his best friend, or the For Kirov or something poster
well this guy knows nothing about Soviet Union only red man bad NPC theme.
Shut up tankie
5:53 can we just appreciate the absolutely insane accuracy of that shot.
I think Russia has the most fun tank lineup in the entire game. It's at 4.3 where you have a great heavy, good TD options, a great scout, solid CAS options and can pair those with the entire gaggle of T-34/76 models.
My favourite flavour is thus;
T-34E STZ, T-34 mod 1941, T-34 mod 1942, KV-1 ZiS 5, SU-85 (can take 152 depending on how you like your TD's), ASU-57 and ZSU-37. I use the premium Thunderbolt for CAS (which is godly) and the Yak-3 for air superiority if needed.
This lineup absolutely claps in every sense of the word and doesn't really have a weak link at all.
The star vehicle for me is the KV-1 ZiS 5. You can be a complete and utter bastard in this thing. Once spaded it is very mobile for what it is, while being very tough to penetrate for the enemy. Even guns that can go through struggle if there's a slight bit of angle about it.
Top fun if you ask me.
Russia has a lot of tanks to fill all BR but theyre northing special. The only tanks that are woth are t3485 t34100 t55am t62am shturm Khrizantema t80bvm and 2s38 as AA, Cas P47d and SU25 the rest are... Always a step below everything else since you only get uptiered constantly. and except p47d and su25 theres nothings cas worthy except KA50/52.
I totally agree. The 4.3 line up is incredible and the kv-1 zis 5 is one of my favourite tanks in the game
@@martinortegacano8229until ypu find a tiger h1 and end up dying cause of a "skill issue"
Kv1 Zis5 is 4.7 not 4.3. Kv1e came back for a while and is at 4.3
"we covered the T-10-A in the last segment". No, no you didn't.
Correction: T-80U does have the 3BM46 which is almost as good as the 3BM60
honestly, 3bm46 will be more stable than 3bm60)
tbh the su-122 was my favourite rank 2. it carried me thru games with its "armor" and its so fun to play
Why bash the stabilized Heatfs boat known as pt76 when It has good qualities such as:
+ fast reload 6s
+ 2 plane stabilizer
+ decent speed 44kmh
+ 200mm pen Heatfs In tier 3
Sure it has the same survivability of a milk Truck but that doesnt stop you from making panthers cry.
I got PTSD from the APCR and now hold a grudge
@@SAKOSNIPER now imagine me, that spaded the chinese one when it still was 5.3
@@SAKOSNIPER undestandable case of hyper stock syndrome and that old terrifying 9s reload
@@SAKOSNIPER it took me 3 games to get the heat. Scouting is a must with apcr. tho I still cant manage to play it good
@@SAKOSNIPER the apcr grind wasn't bad for me
Just go forwards and the game will take care of everything for you, from killing tanks at full speed while unstabilized to bouncinh the most bs shots ever
As a russian main i reckon your comment is spot on, also having german mains usually not on your team is a great advantage
Great video but i won't agree with one thing. T-64B and weak armour. I see you probably don't have it spaded (especialy don't have ERA). Well, I have it almost 90% spaded and I would say, before I researched the ERA modification I could agree about armour part, but for me, for some magical reason after getting it, T-64B became tanky as hell, boucing a lot of shots even on uptiers, strange considering that contact 1 has only 5mm effectivness againts APFSDS (and yes i was boucing APFSDS).
I have it spaded and it’s a beast
T64BV is a gem
When they finally make to we’re contact 1 armor can’t bounce apfds rounds russia top tier will get cut in half.
Now imagine a T-64BM "Bulat"
@@stephenstowe9711
>Kontakt-1
>top tier
Brother are you seeing people taking 9.7s to 11.3?
Can’t wait to watch it sako
CONCLUSION: performance is made by a good player, soviet tanks are OP but newbies think they are immortal and spamm them and die, making soviet reputation bad
suprised over that you didnt mention the obj 268.
also the su and isu152 are easily the most feared tanks at their BRs.. APHEBC can pen Jumbo and Panther UFP up to 3km, and the ISU has good armor , and due to its boxy nature, you can angle it very effectively and bounce tigers and sometimes even panthers.
and the OBJ268 which i mentioned, has the same round as the SU and ISU 152's except much higher velocity, allowing it to pen tiger 2 UFP point blank range (if its unangled) , which is extremly strong. and its armor can stop british 20pdr (84mm) APDS to the cheeks. litterally every brit i encountere always shot me there, thinking they have the perfect "kill everything" gun...
I disagree on the pt76 being bad it’s good cause it has a good stab and good heatfs that can pan tigers turrets.
Heatfs is garbage. Yes it pens but what about damage? Yeah, its none existent
@@SovietUnion_ so penning the turret and disabling it is useless wdym lmao
@@kikkerkinker550 except its turning the breach orange
@@SovietUnion_ just aim better
@@farrel2114 thanks bro, random spall is def fixed by that 👍
Tysm the guide is really helping me out
When he said,other than the British I think it was a tad bit biased
false!
U sureee about that
Yes comrade☕☕☕☕☕
Great video, I was at 7.3 back in 2017 when I stopped and when I just returned was wondering what to expect. Looks like 8.3 is going to be worth it. Cheers!
Great Tea-bias as always Sako! Looking forward to Italy and Britain if you do them.
Minor incorrect fact, in tier one, the BT's did NOT have a smooth ride, it was very much the opposite. The reason the Soviets bought the model was because it was very fast.
Great Video. Love your humour xD
Ah yes bringing politics into a game, the eternal anglo struck again.
Thanks sako
I’ve been waiting for this
hope you liked it😁😁
@@SAKOSNIPER of course I did
supplementary info
-Even though BMP-3's turret and BMD-4's turret seems alike, they use different turret and hence have different ATGM loading speed.
-ZSU-37-2'S radar can't be folded, making it more eash to spot in ground confrontation.
-khurizantem at 8.3 have proximity fuze missile, but Strum S at BR 9.3 does not.
-T90A is the only modern soviet vehicle with time fuze HE shell. it can be as useful as proximity fuze in some situation.
+theres very capable vehicle (practically upgraded T-72AV TURMS-T) Named T-72 Mordena. it have wide angle thermal2G for commander, and have western monolithic penetrator shell(TANPA) with 509mm pen andhave 30mm auto cannon with ap(65mm) and HE(3mm) belt. It's mobility and chasis is rather lack luster, but it have shit ton of ERA(developed with cooperation btw slovakia and NATO) which provide certain level of defence even against KE shells. and it have smoke dicharger with 12 shell per spray, providing significantly larger angle of cover of sight.
It's my favorite vehicle and donna Y he skipped it.
You got the khrizantema and the shturm backwards, khrizantema is 9.3 ground radar and no he-vt missile shturm is 8.3 with the he-vt missile and the t-72m2 is an event vehicle not in the tech tree
@@__--_-_-.__---___.__---__- Apologize. I thought it was about whole soviet ground units as this vid also covered about BMD-4
Su-122 and Kv-2 are perfectly adequate. I don't know what you mean regarding "only destroying someones barrel or tracks" - overpressure's been in the game for a while, definitely before this video, so...
there are also no light vehicles on wheels so players either use the BTs or the milk truck or BTR152
For me the KV-2 is the tank that I bring out when I absolutely have to kill a ground target as hard as possible. Shoot the lower half of the turret of anything that has a turret, watch the HE overpressure through the roof and kill the crew.
The asu-85 reload speed has been buffed to 8.3 seconds and it’s one of the best tank in my 5.3/6.3line up right beside the IS-2 with the better ufp
this is going to be pogger
Put a lot of time into editing it, so I hope you enjoy it 😀
Nice video 👍👍 great detail 😎
Glad you like it!
Sounds like fun!
I don’t know why but I love the Pt-76 I had a 9 kill game with it when I got it.
Least sane NATO dog:
propaganda video
don't know how it actually performs in game since I haven't unlocked it yet, but the t64a seems to actually have an impressively strong turret, being impenetrable to almost anything at its br
It's BR 9.0, which usually means it fights BR 9.7/10.0 vehicles due to all the new premiums. It is pretty strong in SIM, and downtiers tho!
Not only at its br its turret is immune to everything in the game due to a bug. Not even dm53 out of l55 can deal with it
I guess this vid was made before Overpressure became Busted, or before the PT-76B actually became pretty usable
Rip Queen Elizabeth II
Had me dead when he said su-57 “4.5 gen stelth fighter “ XD
I usually have massive success with the su-57, that little juicebox kills all, respect the pouch.
Also on the t-64a, fun fact: it has better cheek armor than the m1a2 abrams in game, it has pretty consistent ~850mm protection against kinetics.
Uh are u tripping the abrams has 1300mm effective I checked the armor t64 a only has 900 to 950 so uh myth busted there also you can angle abrams turret to negate even atgms especially bmp2m and the sides are also very good because the turret
Or is it just because I have m1a1 aim
@@Idontknowlol595 I've only ever found tiny spots of 1300 on the abrams, most of it is ~800 last I checked
@@lilzenongene well I looked at it it’s about 3000+ on the little parts of the turret t64b has a weak turret compared to abrams plus you have to look at who can angle their turret angling is more better than sloped because it’ll make a difference in battle I have tanked over 50 shells in one game with abrams also to mention didn’t die I didn’t even hull down because when I angle abrams the turret becomes immune and the hull well yeah extra fuel tank protects me from literally everything
@@lilzenongene it could just be m1a1 aim because it has composite screening in that turret of its but yeah you have to look at angle in turret not slopeness
I believe that u did not mentioned some of the worst trash on propose; like the BM-8-24, tough at least u could say to "avoid it at -all- any cost" .
Also I just traded my T-10A for a Leo 2AV.
@Meme_Thunder Sold the coupon on the market, and brought a different one.
@Meme_Thunder Easy. I never consumed it, since i knew it will be a shit premium. But i was planning to sell it at one point when its price are higher.
is there an air version for this?
The badger decal on that kv 2 man
Could you teach us how to play the turms? Im terrible and cant find much info
The T64BV (V) its with the era have a good armor.
I love all the sexual innuendos to describe tanks 😂😂
Nooo you forgot my boy KV-122 😭😭😭
I'm new to this game, and I think it's a stupid question but I can't figure it out, at 1:57 how do you shoot while in the scope/binocular mode? I have to scope out in 3rd person view and then fire.
Is there a version of this video for the Soviet aircraft?
can you please do a review of Dora pack ? the Fw-190-D13
because im thinking about it
I'm at 5.0 for USSR, a problem I face is getting up tiered, I'm getting bearly any research and spending more sl then I gain on repairs, gonna switch tech tree, any ideas?
In rank 3 T-34-57 (1943) is really amazing premium as it has glitched ammo rack and can't get killed by it
do i go for the heavy or midium or light tanks?
Idk what to do, I’m using t34 (1942), kv1 (the 4.3 one), kv2, yag 10, and pe-8, what should I do? I get one shot every time even angling and I can’t pen anything even in down tiers.
Ik im a bit late but roughly when this vid came out i was playing rank 3 ussr and i found the pt76 very enjoyable and it slotted into my 5.7 line up preaty well
Ofc playing with apcr kinda sucked but with the tigers it was bearable until i got to heatfs then i knew i was like god as most shells just went right through me (as they say best armour is no armour)
My grandfather, (I’m polish) has a literal tractor with an engine from the T-54💀💀💀
What custom sight do you use?
su-76 description is relatable
Wow, very creative jokes dude, here have imaginary "i did my part" points.
1:54 how do i fire the machine gun?
What should I play because I keep getting upteired using the t-44 I don’t know what br I can play to earn SL without loosing it.
very informative nice memes and you use the TP as I on most tanks haha
Hey. Which one is better? T-34-57 or SU-85?
May the bias be with you, comrade
your vids are very good
I can't wait to see what the British one will be like. And the French one. And the Italian one. And the Swedish one.
Do we get a British edition ?
Why have you omitted the KV-122 in rank 4? I have bought a good while ago because it was cheap. At that time I did not like the heavy tanks, and it has a long reload and its armor is not great, but since then I became a better player and I started to like it much. At 5.3 it sits at a pretty low BR and it usually one shots Tigers, Panthers regardless where you hit them....
As someone who started playing two months ago with USSR as first nation, it often feel at times as if I am playing a new game on the second hardest difficulty. Currently I am at Rank 4 and my biggest opponent is USA tanks whom I don't seem to be able to penetrate with T-34-57 and KV-85's, whilst getting oneshotted myself quite easily through frontal plating.
you know what they say, this is clearly a skill issue. just make sure to side climb.
of course, as a US main, just flank. most of my teammates are clueless lmao.
Angle, turret wiggle, press W and shoot at the not strong part of enemy tanks?
hey i just got my is-3 and bmp-1, i try to play them but i just keep dying with them lol. can someone please tell any survival tips
Imma have to disagree on the pt it’s pen is good and the heat doesn’t usually let me down and for some reason the shell actually over pressures for me unlike the 90mm on the higher rated light tanks
How do you get that box radar in the khrisantema I still have the cone shape
Settings, air battle settings, 'use rectangular radar indicator'
T64's have great armors especially T64A's turret armor is great frontally and even side. What do you mean weak armor?
T-64A can easily be penetrated by 105MM DM23 which is quite common at the BR. The T-64B having bad armour though? That bastard bounces 105Mm DM33 easily with the ERA package.
I’m just looking at this as a noob like ‘I just like big Stalinium tanks that go boom with cool looking armour’
Ok you can call the Stalin series of tanks either JS or IS is fine. It depends on you pronounce Stalin's name. If pronounce it like this "Joseph Stalin" then its JS, however if your pronounce it like this "Iosif Stalin" which is closer to the Russian pronunciation its IS. Neither IS or JS are wrong and can be called either or depending on how you pronounce Stalin's name.
I've been loving your deep review of the entire Tech Tree in War of Thunder is very funny and of course Very informative keep up the good work I hope you do well in the future because these videos are very good
Important question Rang 7
T-A90A -> 2S25
T-72B3-> 2S25M
Correct
And
T-80U and T-80BVM are the best Russian panzer correct ?
Have you seen the is3 the front armor you cant penetrate and the turret is a unreliable to hit it so you can’t penetrate the front even with a American 120mm t34 round and a lot of the times you bounce side shots
Im currently researching the T72B i want the T90 but im getting stuck
Should i get the IS-6 or T34-100??
Will you do british as well please? Or Am I just missing that video.. Thank you
37:03 Russia cant afford a full scale production of them
HAHAH
Su-100 is not "slightly upgraded Su-85M" but Su-85M were made because soviets didn't have enough 100mm guns by that moment so they put 85mm gun in Su-100 hull
the su-100 was made after the su 85?
👍 WOW! Can't wait to see this... An excellent 💡 idea for War Thunder beginner and advanced players! 🎯
Thank-You! 😍
I suck at war thunder, and I was gonna grind the American tech tree but I got so mad after getting deleted so many times in Sherman’s so I decided to grind the Soviet tech tree I will definitely use this so I won’t get deleted
Bro doesn’t know how good I play with the tanks he labelled as “bad”
How to get this skin for T-34 85
I dont know much about the game since i played it 1 year ago. But i started playing again and i somehow cant Research the T 34-85 in rank 4. Why?
a hilarious bit on the t-72A gaijin compared it to the Abrams in their thunder show series. they said the t-72a won in every single way possible and then said it wasn't a fair comparison because the t-72a was 9.3 vs the Abrams at 10.0. Not seeing any bias in this they decided to put the Abrams against a 10.0 Russian tank and it lost again
Question: I watched the video but you didn’t mention the godsend of the BTR-ZD, time stamp where I didn’t pay attention or is it just not in the vid?
Basically I recorded all the audio, and had almost finished editing when it was added. And then just forgot to add it in post
@@SAKOSNIPER wow you have been working on this for a while then!
Bro i love the su 57b
Bro is more incorrect than all my high school tests