One of the most POWERFUL AMD cards EVER!
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- I replaced the broken Titan X from ebay with an even more obscure GPU. AMD Radeon R9 295x2 DUAL GPU! This is the last consumer dual GPU solutions from AMD and it's a BEAST!
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60 fps? lol ok but what resolu---
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WTF
It's the 1080 of AMD. It beats even a 1070 in some cases when dealing with crossfire lol.
R9 390x's were even better.
Launched few years back
It's basically 2 390x's with lower clocks in crossfire. They will give a 1070 a run for it's money.
+Scott Calder
Sadly it wasn't widely publicized, otherwise we wouldn't of had people doing 980/980Ti SLI setups for far more money..Pretty sad honestly.
Nighterlev
I'm pretty sure it would handily beat 980 non TI sli in high res gaming.
I ran an R9 295x2 with a R9 290x in Tri-fire configuration with the 290x as the primary card. I think I was the power companies favorite customer.
Holy shit
Go to the electric meter and see the dial spinning like a top. But hey, you do save on your heating bill.
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I could have done an entire rotisserie chicken in my case.
@@someguyinjersey976 I have an old FX 8120 you can use if you absolutely positively need to trip a breaker.
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Funny because originally I was running an FX 8350 with two 290x's in crossfire. When I got the 295x2 I had planned on replacing both with it but read an article about the Tri-fire set up and thought why not. I had a 1200w PS but was having issues whenever crossfire was enabled. It ended up being under powered. I got myself a 1600w Evga supernova and the problem went away. I still use that 1600w in my current build even though it's overkill. I got my 295x2 for $750 in 2015 new and sold it last year for $900 at the hight of the mining craze. Upgraded to a 1080ti and am quite happy
damn this card is an absolute unit, its too bad that crossfire and sli doesnt get the love that it deserves
ABSOLUTE UNIT
SLI and CF suck...always one card
They don't want you to buy a second cheaper card they want you to buy a brand new card.
That's why it's not gotten any love
This card is basically a GTX 1080, thank you for checking this out Timmy Joe
Wtf, no it isn't. Even the 980ti goes neck to neck with it. The 1070 is 20% faster, and it doesn't touch a 1080 which is like 40% faster.
It's running tomb raider 4k at 60 fps. A 980ti is not neck and neck with that...
Did you not see the performance tests in this vid? Between Timmy's results, the results The Horror posted, and other benchmarks I've seen, it's very close to a 1080, especially at higher resolutions. A 1070 is not 20% faster on average. If you can post multiple benchmarks that directly oppose what we've seen, great, otherwise you're talking out of your ass.
Had a 295x2 was a great card when it worked. Just sucked when the game didn't support Crossfire. It also consumed a lot of power but with two 290x cores it will do that.
I don't understand... Your FPS results are very similar to what I get with a XFX r9 390... Oh wait, I missed running at 4k... That would do it.
My dream is to have one 295x2. Idc if its consumes a lot of power, it looks cool, runs modern games so, ya'know.
Thanks, Timmy to show that beauty to everyone, miss that Dual GPU time. Looking foward for more!
Oh it chugs power like crazy, but I mean it is a dual GPU card, I wish Nvidia and AMD would do the dual GPU stuff again.
Just buy 2 R9290s for 100 dollars each should get the job done
The Horror Well yes, But if you have a micro ATX board with only 1 x16 lane then a dual GPU card will be ideal if you want to venture in SLI/Crossfire, Micro ATX is picking up in popularity, Some say SLI/Crossfire is also dying, so you got that argument but its subjective though. I just find dual GPU cards interesting myself for situations where fitting in 2 physical cards is not possible.
it's got a 500W TDP and requires at least a 850W PSU :P
Im surprised AMD didn't include a third 8 pin power.
Still loving my 295x2 even 4 years later. As I run 6 screen Eyefinity for work and things like Elite Dangerous Nvidia isn't an option. You just have to tweak in game settings on your titles to stay below the 4gb Vram limit. Yes it pumps out heat but during the winter I seriously don't need to turn the heating on while gaming. Only takes 85w running 6 desktop screens when not gaming (monitors excluded). Will upgrade if Navi turns out to be worth it. Timmy Joe NZXT Cam or the built in Radeon Adrenalin overlay should allow you to check framerates without issue.
I know I love mine to . I picked mine up for $750 . Here I am years later , and the only upgrade path for me is a 1080ti , 2080 , or 2080ti ok lets see if I can out last one more generation . Maybe AMD will make a Vega 128 .
"...So.... Firestrike: *ZERO* ... You're drivin' me bananas!"
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There was another The AMD Radeon Pro Duo was designed for for gamers who create and creators who game. With 16 teraflops of compute performance, 8192 stream processors, and 8gb High Bandwidth Memory the AMD Radeon Pro Duo is ideal for professionals looking to create VR content and compute complex workloads. For gamers, the AMD Radeon Pro Duo gives the best single card VR experience, and is the fastest 4k gaming experience out there.
Followed by the radeon pro duo Polaris (which is slower and a workstation card).
I'm still running one of these! Works great and it's the reason I might wait one more gen before upgrading.
That i5 will stutter even if it gets faster average FPS in some games. I have an old 4570 and my current 1500X is not always much faster but damn does it do so much better overall.
Even the first i7 will be smoother. 4 threads are obsolete at the top, but ideal for budget builds.
Came from the a 4670k to a 2700X and absolutely, games get a lot smoother, and in my case a lot faster too.
I am running the same i5 3570k and it doesn't stutter. First off there is a huge difference between a locked CPU like the 4570 running at something over 3GHz and an unlocked and overclocked to the max CPU like the 3570k running at 4.9Ghz for example. Second stutter is not caused by having old CPU, it is caused by the hardware being hammered by far more that it can handle like for example having your CPU running too slow so the game overloads the main thread while at the same time having your GPU being pushed to the max due to far higher settings than it can handle. It can be a simple case of running out of Vram on your GPU and so on.
Yes I know why stutter happens. No it is not VRAM nor RAM issues as upgrading to the 1500X fixed all of those problems and I had 16 GB DDR3 and now have 16 GB DDR4.
Modern games need more threads. That is all there is to it. If I were to play older or less demanding new games, the 1500X wont score a lot over the 4570 (slightly higher IPC and clocks on Zen is all there is to it) but in a multitasking scenario or in modern games, there is a real difference.
I have an i5 and in pubg i get about 100 fps + without any stutter. I have no idea where this non sense comes from
Hi man. Great video. About Doom not using the second GPU, I noticed you are using Vulcan. Vulcan doesn't run SLI or Crossfire at all as far as I know. I had the same issue with my MARS 760x2. As soon as you change to OpenGL however, it works with SLI no problem. I think Crossfire should work fine as well in OpenGL and the scaling I got was mighty fine, keeping the GPUs at over 90% at all times with no stutter or visual glitches. I am currently thinking of getting the same model - R9 295x2 card to be honest. After all this is the best dual GPU solution in existence (that you can get at the very least).
I have to actually watch these videos, because if I'm just listening I just keep thinking that The Dude from The Big Lebowski started a tech channel.
I love the videos, keep up the good work i love where the channel is going, been watching for over a year now and love every video
Have you disabled ULPS? It can give you a small boost when using CrossFire and make it more stable :) You can do it using trixx, regedit and afterburner (i think) :)
I have a rx 480... and a fx 9590... one 295x2, and I got the most power consumption possible, imagine a fx9590 with a 295x2
would an 800w psu survive? lol
An 800+ watt psu should be fine - I would probably go with at least a 80+ gold or higher rating though.
I have an FX-9590 Paired with a 8 gb RX 580 - pairing works very nicely. :)
the 295x2 can pull 500w by its self then the cpu can pull 300w so no a 800w psu is not a good idea and any psu you do get needs 28A's on the 12 v rails
@@TheCooperman666 i thought the cpu pulls 220w?
Not going to lie, pretty jealous. I used to rock two 7970s in Crossfire with my 5930K and that setup was really potent on my 1440p monitor. Then one my 7970s died, sent it in for RMA and it came back to only work for one boot up and then died again. Suffice to say, been living on a single 7970 that's been flashed and modded for cooling and longevity. I've been looking on eBay and Kijiji for a replacement and could never find a suitable used card. Good find, that's some serious luck! Can't wait to see the benchmarks!
I have this card and it kicks ass!!! Its 4 years old and still keeps up with the big boys!
Hey Timmy Joe. I still got that 460 2 Win coming your way (the one I emailed you about) sorry, been dealing with the hurricane here. I'll have it out to you this next week and I can't wait for you to review it!
Been running two of these in my setup since my last major build in 2014 and their still going strong.
Nice card. Just bought one off ebay the guy said caught on fire while gaming. pcie 8 pin is crispy and has some chunks in it from the power plug. got it for $86 usd and about $40 shipping and 2 weeks from Canada to the US. Cleaned it and fixed it.....it posts and sees both gpus, it will be put through its paces soon enough.
i really want to see AMD to put 2 Vega 56's on a single card
You should check out the Radeon Pro V340 it's a dual Vega 56 with 32 Gb HBM
I have two of this beauty for a long time, and I'm going to rebuild from i6/Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming G1 to the Asrock X399M TR 1950x build to give them enough x16 lanes to see the full potential of the quad fire. Was nice to see every struggle and happiness. Thx!
I love this AMD series! I have one of this R9 295x2 and a HD 7990 (prev. dual GPU). I am running them in unRaid server and they sharing on a 3rd gen i7. I can confirm the performance, even they are running in a a seperate VM/2threads! They are very durable, last year 24/7 i was mining without any issue. Unfortunately it has a monster TDP around 580-600watt only the card itself. My rig under a full load was eating 1.3kW with this 2 GPU.
Holy cow! This legendary AMD Radeon card from 2015 can still kick arse at 4K High Settings. I remember when I first saw the review of this product on Linus Tech Tips, I was blown away, hoping that someday I can get my hands on this card.
Great Watch, Great Idea, Great explanation all through the vid. Just GREAT... Ty Timmy
the original cooler design was pretty ingenious. They separated the heat from the gpu's into the loop and then used a heat sink for everything else with its own fan. That way they didn't have to create an absolutely enormous radiator to handle all the heat. Because the 120mm rad that comes with it woud likely be totally heat soaked otherwise. I hope AMD does another dual gpu card... hopefully infinity fabric will finally bring about the dual gpu no crossfire or sli era.
tbh honest that really ba...
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Holy Christs beard thats good
I wish Nvidia would bring back dual GPU cards, the GTX590 still stands as my favorite gpu purchase ever, to say it was future proof is an understatement, that dang card can still run some modern games on high settings in 1080, I got rid of it a couple years ago and have a 980ti now, which I'm a little underwhelmed with to be honest.
Digging up the past puts Moore's Law- which PC manufacturers refer to for their 'new' processors into the question. Great stuff!
I've always wanted this card but never could get it. I did have the 8GB XFX version of the 290X. Then when the rumors began on the "Fury X2" I was so interested because of the strength of the 295x2. Then AMD kicked me in the groin at the last minute by calling it the "Pro Duo" and made it specifically a workstation card.
I liked the SLI on a board because it didn't have the overhead caused by the PCI-E.
So now I hope that Navi uses infinity fabric to link multiple GPU cores together like what has made Ryzen so successful.
I snagged this card off of eBay for my first build only to find out it didn't have an HDMI port. My Dell monitor only gets up to 75Hz through an HDMI connection. So the 5 year old GPU was more ahead of its time than my brand new Dell monitor.
No the R9 295x2 was not the last consumer dual gpu solution the Radeon Pro Duo (Fiji based) was. Technically speaking AMD marketed it to creators/gamers card so it can be used for gaming. [Polaris based Radeon Pro Duo is marketed as workstation Gpu]
if amd launch rx 580x2 i will buy 2 for the rest of my life
that actually might happen lol
except theyll do it like the ryzens with infinity fabric
so itll essentially be one gpu
i have a 480 and i run all games at ultra 100fps at 1080p i really dont need or care to play at 4k my monitor is cheap and fast.... if they do 2x 64 vega they will shit in the mouth of fan boys 2080ti performance and could actually ask for 2000 for a card, if and only that would shut ngrdia fan boys up.
They wont do a x2 on pascal because it is pascal, but with 7nm vega hopefully coming in 2019, I could see a x2 7nm vega being made to compete with nvidia if a single card isnt nipping at the 2080ti heels
radeon pro duo is 2 480's....which is the same thing asa 580
@@SicSemperBeats the pro duo looks like a beast and at only 449 on newegg i would love to see someone benchmark that thing
It's an old video but I compared with my RX 5700XT (2050 core/1880 mem) + R7 3700x for the fun and I was quite surprised with Firestrike's graphics score. The R9 295x2 did 28401 and my RX 5700XT did 28746 so basically the same performance! That's rather impressive. Sure my card remains under 200w while the old monster sucks around 500w but still, quite impressive stuff.
Timespy went differently however, my card scored 10115 points (graphics score) while the R9 295x2 did 8227. Thaiti is a DX12 capable GPU but the gap is much bigger in that benchmark.
Had one before - you need a high quality PSU with 16AWG gauge wires(PCIEX power). It WILL melt connectors if you add 50% power limit and try any OC. So be careful.
Just bought this card for giggles for €130. Great collectors items next to mine 7990. One point, in your description you mention: This is the last consumer dual GPU solutions from AMD and it's a BEAST!
However, Powercolor released a 390x2. I do not know whether u consider it AMD aswell, since only powercolor did it, but that is one actually insane card.
they did?!
did it performed better than the 290x2?
I just picked one up for $85 with the cooler and in working condition 2 weeks ago...Was a hell of a come up lol.
I used to have 2 of those badboys in Crossfire under waterblocks. They are still very relevant GPUs.
i had a dual gpu once, never again, in most of the titles i had negative scaling and microstuttering, it was generally better to turn off 1 gpu if you didnt want to change it every time you launch a game
I used to own one of these cards from xfx, I loved it! It worked really well with everything at the time, and I sold it on amazon a few years ago for like 800 bucks, I actually miss that card
Use to have a 290x, memories! As far as cooling goes you should get an EK Phoenix kit which has a pump built into the rad and attach it to the current block making it an “ail”
Just got a r9 for 50 bucks it was dirty crashing so bad .. I cleaned it and baked it at 375 for ten minutes 3 times and now it works fine
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Timmy I picked up an RX580 like you said. I replaced my GTX960 and wow what a difference. Thanks man
There were issues with the newest driver for that card. My brother in law had that card, I think. I had to go back a driver version or two. To make it work right. Because AMD stopped supporting it right after changing the way they did their drivers. I might be remembering this incorrectly it's been a while.
Interesting card, and nice video. I'm still pretty blown away by its performance today...when it works, that is. As for daily usage though, I'm much more content with my one Fury and lack of crossfire issues :P
In the old catalyst control panel there was a way to manually set the crossfire mode to AFR which is what I did with my old 7950 crossfire setup, please consider doing that as it solved many of my issues back then.
These days I'm running a 1070 on a laptop as I'm done with massive unwieldy gaming setups, but back then it made sense for me.
you never made a follow up video to this one as you said at least 15 times im gona have to retract my "Puter Part Woo!!" for this one.
Thanks for mentioning us Patreon backers!! Want to see some Patron only stuff one day if you have time. Nothing crazy or anything. Love your videos!
Sold my 295x2 in 2018 when the miners were paying through the nose, got $850 out of it, only paid $550. Bought a 1080 Ti with money left over!
I often shy away from cards like these, for they have usually been abused with major overclocks...users often dump these cards when they begin to fail due to extensive abuse; however, for the price you paid? A very good buy though.
The culprit to the buggy troubles is likely crossfire. If it's a old card using newer drivers it's likely that it's crossfire problems NEVER got resolved and is very unstable with crossfire enabled.
Quite the special card indeed. It was never easy to get dual gpu's run well. Or at least give it 200% performance over a 1 GPU system. A lot of work to keep both GPU's comunicating and the busses filled.
I never clicked on a video so fast when I don't have the notifications on and had time to sit down and actually watch the stuff. I love Timmy. Fun dude. Nvidia shoulda gave you the 2080ti to review and no one else. :D
I'm still using my Sapphire R9 295x2 in my Ryzen 2700 system. When crossfire works, its very good.
When Timmy Joe PC Tech goes bigger, I want to be on the payroll and support this channel. My dreams were this. I have the knowledge to support the channel and I could be the grunt. Please Timmy Joe PC Tech let me be your building blocks as I was in business for over 5 years doing PcProBuilders and having my own server.
The hawaii series is notorious for artifacting, I'm surprised you didn't get a lot of that. They're also pretty bad overclockers for the most part.
love this video man i have owned a r9 295x2 3 times now lol can you do more videos on it ? like a itx build and a overclocking guied ? keep up the good videos.
I got this 3 week ago for $180 USD like new from eBay :) I love it. Plays better than 1070 on tripple A games .
I got a firestrike score of 18846 and I was running. Msi after burner for fps n FrostWire. And chrome on the background
I use with Ryzen 2700x
A crappy displayport cable or mini-dp adapter can cause weird ass shit to happen. Not sure what you're using but try getting a good quality cable or active adapter and see if that stops some of the frustrating bugs. Just a thought...
Just scored me one of these on ebay for £150! So stoked
If I recon correctly, there was a red devil 395x2, with 3 or 4 power connectors !
was a 290x model, I had one but had to sell it as it was a B-Grade unit. Thought I was saving myself some cash over the reference model. I ended up replacing it with a pair of 290x cards instead. Its fully water cooled with a R7 1700 and its a very sweet setup, even at 1440p
@@Carsman50 I've re-read several articles about the 395x2, and it was 2 390x. yes I know they are 290x rebranded, but the amout of vram is different : 2x4gb vs 2x8gb. So in 4K it would make a difference (+ the higher clocks).
Myself I own a 290 and it's still a very good card, I've OCed it to 1167 core and 1602 vram (new thermal pads and paste tho) and it hold up to a gtx 1060 (but consume 2 times the power ^^).
Killian Flohic I might try that for a upgrade
Hey they did make a 390 model, but was slower than the 290X dual core model, here's the review for the card I was mentioning www.tomshardware.com/reviews/powercolor-devil-13-dual-amd-r9-290x-review,3853.html
Yeah I struggle to get my cards above 1100 mhz, could be a crap bin or something as I have seen 1200 to be a good sweet spot
295x2s are extremely difficult to overclock historically far as I've heard and experienced myself so dont feel too bad about OC'ing
For this, I had a friend who had a Intel I5 but he finally switch to a Intel i7 just to get it running all the time since at times the intel i5 would act weird at times and just blue screen for him, and then he got the hot king of all hottness, the AMD FX 9590 CPU and he was able to keep it running but damn with both of them running, you better have water blocks for both the CPU and the GPU since they going to run super hot and pull a ton of power from the wall, but at least he was able to run it and get the computer on them benchmarks websites.
Well there IS the R9 390 Devil 13. Which is a dual GPU card and something I've wanted to get for a very long time.
My dad has that card, got it on a good sale. It's a beast at 4K (when XFire works)! Turns your PC into a furnace tho (but the card runs decently cool), even comes with a PCI-E "kickstand" to keep the weight of the card from tearing off the PCI-E slot lol
wasnt the Fiji based Radeon Pro Duo the last consumer dual GPU from amd?
too good for the age of that card......good job man ....keep up the good work
I hope AMD will realize that, this card it the 1080ti of 2014, it was not until 2017 that Nvidia arrives with the 1080 ti, damn it when I see that I'm just saying that amd has not out of card equivalent in 4 years oO
great video as usual, continue like this
I have one from Sapphire, it's an amazing card, was a dream to me since I saw for the first time, the design and engineering are awesome, when the game helps, it's basically a 1080 with 4gb vram at 4k, and boy, this card has 4 years old...
Another great video mate, I have a 2700X and 8700K i mess about with frequently, for the most part the 2700x has ran well but I ended up giving up doing any custom oc i used that XFR overdrive feature. or just let it do it itself these days. would like to get mine up to 4.2 or 4.3 all the time but the power draw on it gets a bit crazy. cant wait to watercool my 1080ti soon squeeze a bit more life out of it before upgrading.
Thanks for the update on the titan x . A few of us in here were asking buildzoid to get ahold of you . Man , that really sucks that it was a totally flop. Next , let's find a titan v, Lol .
Still run one....awesome card runs my 3440x1440 monitor great! Does run hot and consumes lots of power. M-GPU support is getting better and I really haven't had alot of problems with crossfire or recent games..
My goal is to collect all Dual GPU cards starting from the GTX 590. I would eventually love to have a 3850 x3 if any where made
I have an hd 3870 x2. It was a bright red monster back in it's day.
It truly was, but my goal is to find the one production sample HD 3850 *x3*
I still have my r9 390 8gb and it still does great considering the age! the extra memory really does come in handy if you want to turn up the resolution.
I've got an XFX R9 290X 8GB paired with a ryzen 1700@3.92GHz. So far it is great for me because i play on a 22" 60Hz 1080p monitor. For example PUBG runs at around 80-100FPS with AA on ultra, view distance on ultra, textures on medium, effects on medium, shadows on very low, post processing on very low. I hope it'll last me some time.
Turn textures to ultra there s no performance hit for doing so
Have been using the XFX R9 295x2 black edition since 2014 and mostly watching this hoping to see if there is a trick to get the crossfire to work. So far, on almost every game I play, only 1 of the cores is used making this essentially a very expensive R9 290.
That being said, it is still fully capable of running current games at 1080p on decent settings. Will be replacing it with a RTX 2080ti once nVidia finally gets around to shipping it out.
I think it actually worked a lot better then I was thinking it would. My biggest problem with it is I wanted to run 4K benchmarks but the V Ram Limited a lot. And I couldn't record my findings with MSI afterburner, it hated being open while games were open. I was considering putting it in my everyday system for a while
Could the issues you're having with this card be due to a lack of crossfire support on some titles?
In my opinion this is the coolest card that AMD ever made (punintended) it's so great to see water-cooled reference designs. And the performance, wow
WTF IS THAT RADIATOR, Its bigger then my cat
Thanks for doin the vid man! Didnt know this existed.been a fan on the older amd gpus( currently using a sapphire r9 290x with a ryzen 3 1200.) My dream card would be the fury
290x bro ere forget about fury go for Vega or even wait for navi
Love these types of videos
I have a 295x2 sitting around my house collecting dust, with stock cooler, would you be interested in this by chance?
The R9 series was a beast. Loved my 390x, competed really well
Had the Sapphire 295x2 back in the day, pretty bad times with it, most games it wouldn't play due to hardly any titles supporting Crossfire, constant driver issues, insane temps and powerdraw.
Fantastic performance on the few titles it would play, but again...those temps, 93 degrees after 10 mins...driver crashing games..Nah...don't miss it.
Timmy Joe - Make sure your power supply has only one 12v rail when using this card. On PSUs with more than one rail you will need to judge by yourself if the amount of power needed is obtainable on your rail combination (pain in the A$$). This can severely decrease your OC potential and stability,
This card is crazy powerful considering its age? I mean those 4K FPS numbers were insane?
I'm hearing rumors AMD may be going back to duel GPUs in the near future. I can't verify it to be true but it would be interesting to see come back with newer technology.
there's a 390X2 but it's a powercolor exclusive they made.
the disassembly with the electric screwdriver was a little cringy. you was looking into the camera while using a power tool on a sort of delicate board with all those surface mount components.
awesome vid !
I think the last dual GPU board from AMD was the Radeon Pro Duo (Fiji) launch around 2016
i have one setup in my friends rig, run slightly lower voltages, and use old drivers, like, his is stable with the radeon drivers from late 2016. newer drivers caused desyncing with the cores and random crashes and artifacting
When I hear Timmy Joe say "Overclocked to the nines" I jizz myself :) its like his superhero catch-phrase!
You mentioned running a 3570K at 5Ghz do you have a video or info on that? That's what I am running.
FUN AND PAINFULL AT THE SAME TIME Good Content !! Wierd GPUs and TIMMAH !!
I got 2 of these cards sat on my desk in the box rare cards now .
radeon pro duo actually??? i think that was consumer and gaming. It had some weird bios switching shit.
So a friend of mine hooked me up and gave me his old one. Anything I need to know?
Games keep updating all the time but AMD has not been giving attention to crossfire to ensure it still works when games update. At least with nvidia we can use Inspector to get things working.