The Sound Quality section of your review is what your dedicated followers really want to watch, we trust your experience as a lot of us may not have the ability to review a product ourselves. I was pleasantly surprised by your comments here regarding the 'musicality' of the A10 but presume the 'lack of resolution' is only a factor because of its price bracket. Thanks again, Hans 🙏
As usual, a fantastically produced, insightful review. My piggy bank is full but I was really hoping that their next flagship streamer would include a headphone output.
Thank you, this is a very relevant and helpful review, especially the sound impressions (and the internals walkaround: no easy way to swap opamps). Looks like a product worthy of the price. Let's see how the DAC section compares with other ES9038SPro designs.
Thank you for the great review and I have to say that I don't believe a lot of RUclipsrs but all your viedeos make me build part of my system 🎉❤ and you was always right 👍 Thank you for your support
The FIR filter is actually a very powerful feature, and it can also be used for time domain correction. However, it requires more advanced software, such as standalone tools like Audiolense. After creating the FIR filter, it can be imported into the A10’s convolution engine. That said, the DSP expertise required for this is quite high, so I am merely pointing it out. It’s not that FIR is limited to correcting amplitude; it just needs more powerful tools to design the FIR filter properly.
Platinum age of audio. Audio is better than ever - greater proportion of excellent products, more features, better sound, more accessible, more convenient form factors, more convenient, more affordable/higher value, and on, and on, and on.
Thank you for the comprehensive review, as always greatly appreciated! I am very tempted to sell my McIntosh c50 preamp, Ares 12th DAC, WiiM Pro, and Sony HAPZ1ES Music server and replace 4 boxes and multiple cables with the EverSolo A10! From the reviews I have watched I would not sacrifice any quality in the preamp section, and I would gain quality in the DAC section and room correction comes along with it! I would keep my 3 amplifiers, McIntosh mc352, Carver Crimson 275 tube amp and my DIY class D mono amps. I really enjoy swapping out amps to get differences in the sound. I also like to bi amp my Klipsch La Scala speakers with the class D amps and the tubes. Having 3 amps and EQ always keeps the music flowing and fresh! Again thanks for the review!
Thank you Hans for your usual comprehensive review. I'm happy to see that room correction is included. Now an option on the upcoming Bluesound Node Icon and already included on the WiiM Ultra is hopefully a sign that the industry is beginning to 'get with the 'program'. The dedicated USB out allowing the use of a better external DAC is welcome but begs the question, of whether the room correction is still available through the USB out. Disappointed that the A10 apparently does not include a high/low pass feature, which is offered with the WiiM Ultra. Especially as the A10 has dual subouts. But overall, a big step in the right direction.
Great video. I love the Eversolo streamers and I'm thinking about this one, too. One question: I have some room problems that I cannot solve with putting things to walls. These problems also affect my record player. Could it be an option to go from my phono-pre into an analog in of the Eversolo and send it through the room correction? Then back to my amplifier and that's it. What do you think?
Beste Hans, Dank voor de vele verhelderende reviews. Complimenten en een verademing in een alsmaar ingewikkelde materie en materiaal. Hoe verhoud zich deze A10 tot de vernieuwde Auralic G2.2 series ? Bijvoorbeeld de Vega? Dank , Groet, Maurice Haenen
I am more interested in sound than features and tech. I have an A8, and it sounds like the A10 has a better Pre, and better DAC. I won't upgrade to the A10. I will save money and wait for an all in one Streamer, Pre, and DAC from Holo Audio based on the Cyan. I have faith it will come someday soon.
Peter Gabriel; this confirms my faith in your musical acumen. I am curious if the A10 has home theater bypass. I pretty sure the A8 has it, so I'm guessing this must since it should be trivial to implement.
Thank you for this video. Question: how good is the preamp specifically? In your test, did you prefer driving your amp as an integrated or as a power amp?
Thank you for this review. I wonder how the A10 compares with the Mytek Brooklyn Bridge II, but maybe you don’t have it around anymore. I am on the market to buy a new streamer+DAC since Mytek failed to honor their contract of exchange between the original BB and the BB II.
Thanks for the Review. Can you imagine that the A10 would be better than the integrated electronics of a Dynaudio Focus 50? You had already tested the Dynaudio.
As always an excellent very professional review. I have an A8 that I upgraded with a Beatechnik LPS-A8 power supply. I recently moved the A8 to my secondary system and have been looking at the A10 as a replacement in my primary system. In this price range a crossed-shopped competitor is the HiFi Rose RS150B. Both have very similar features and capabilities and are are using Sabre DAC's. Anyone have any thoughts on the sound signature differences?
Another great review Hans! I am curious to know your impressions of the two different DACs: A8 (warmer?) vs. the A10 (more clinical?). I am trying to choose between buying the A10 or the Lumin P1-mini. Have you ever used any Lumin products? Thanks, Russ
Really enjoyed your review. Thank you. Most streaming devices come with preamp functions in these days. I have a reasonably good tube preamp from Conrad Johnson. Should I consider A10 for both streamer and preamp? Or I should look for a streamer only without preamp? Thanks.
I would go for a streamer without pre-amp or use the streamer with the pre-amp switched off (effectively the volume control). And I would go for a slightly higher sound quality given your amp.
Hans, you were very reserved in your description of the sound and not made any comparisons with other devices(without A8).You only tested the A10 with one system this Time. Why? Another reviewer said that the A10 is not SFP+ capable. In your test, were you able to identify a sound advantage over SFP to LAN? Thank you
Wow Hans, that is a very positive review I can see why it took so long. Can it play Apple music as an end unit or only from an Apple device? It’s definitely an option if I the active modules into my PMC’s, not a fan of the “fancy” volume knob unfortunately.
Sounds like another winner! But hard to imagine what it sounds like when you said it "it involves you in the music". My experience with being invovled with the music has always been the music itself, not because of the gear. A Chet Baker trumpet solo mono recording coming from an AM radio or a stereo remix from a two-channel would get me invovled with the music just as well.
Does it have an home theater bypass on the analog in? It's frustrating to see all these "pre-amp" devices that cannot be used as pass thru devices when connected to a receiver in a home theater/streamer mixed setup.
NAD is way more expensive and much worse built (capacitors, soldering). NAD, Audiolab, Cambridge are all devices built to fail after the warranty expires. Just look up the pictures of the insides.
I understand the quality comparison but we’re talking many £’000’s difference. If you went with the Eversolo what part of your system would you invest in with that saving?
If you need an AVR then the Marantz AV10 it top notch. I own it and love it and it sounds great with music and movies! Not sure this streamer is a competition other than for your $$ lol. They’d make a great pair someday 😊
This has left me confused. On one hand its the be all and ends all, yet on the other i get the feeling that there's better sound for less money like the Cyan 2. 🤷♂️
Thank you Hans great review. Would have been useful to include a HDMI input so we could connect an Apple TV directly to the unit and also they could of included a HDMI output socket to work with legacy AV surround processors. I like the inclusion of the SFP port this is nice touch and the DSP functions and stereo sub outputs are on point. The price is also very competative
Hello Hans.. Just a question : this DMP A10 is all in one system (streamer, dac, pre amp) without implementation of Master Clock (dedicated Master clock unit) like other high end Digital Music players. How do you compare with other high end Digital Streamers (that implementing Master clock unit separate) ??
A mac pro desktop computer with Audirvana? I don't think so. I've had that setup and have a very good USB input DAC, the RME ADI-2. Even without Audirvana, using Qobuz desktop alone, the sound is excellent. But I've bettered it with a WiiM Pro, external 5v power supply, using a Verizon fiber optic router running through two Cisco Meraki connected by fiber into the WiiM pro and then glass toslink into the RME DAC with the latest Roon 2.0 version. I've tested these both direct wired from an old 2012 Mac Mini and also a M1 Macbook Air. The Cisco Meraki fiber to the WiiM Pro wins due to the heft and depth of the sound improved. Both are however excellent. Audrivana is very good and IMHE, there was a nice benefit to using its DSD upsampling options.
Here the A8 was $3,000 but now it’s currently $2,600. The A10 is $6,500. Are we to believe there’s $3,900 of extra goodies in this compared to the A8. $1,000 yes but that’s about it. I will stick with my A8 because this one is way overpriced.
Thanks for the review. I kinda would like to know what i am missing out... but.... I just sold my dmp8, bought a kiwistreamer and i am never going back to chi-fi again!
@@Pete.across.the.streetthat is your opinion The A10 seems like good value to me I have no use for it but if I were looking to spend around $3K on a streamer I would consider this one for sure
@@middleearthltd i think the a8 is a better value at almost half the price. I don't think it's worth the upgrade to the A10 unless the sound quality is substantially better. I'm am going to mod my A8 for less than the price difference and hopefully get better sound. Doesn't seem like a bad device at all.
@@Pete.across.the.street Agree. I haven’t seen reviewers really detail the sound quality benefits over the A8. The A10 has a DAC that some think is inferior to the one in the A8.
Glad to see you are in good health. As always your professionalism and intelligence are a delight.
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I dont think any reviewer could explain a components functions, and review better than what i have just watched , enjoy the music
Thanks
Another great video!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge
My pleasure!
The Sound Quality section of your review is what your dedicated followers really want to watch, we trust your experience as a lot of us may not have the ability to review a product ourselves. I was pleasantly surprised by your comments here regarding the 'musicality' of the A10 but presume the 'lack of resolution' is only a factor because of its price bracket.
Thanks again, Hans 🙏
My pleasure
As usual, a fantastically produced, insightful review.
My piggy bank is full but I was really hoping that their next flagship streamer would include a headphone output.
Sorry
Many thanks for the very comprehensive review. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
My pleasure!
great and clear presentation love it
Thanks!
I truly appreciate how much detail and explanation you always go into in your reviews, Hans! Much Gratitude 🙏🏼!
My pleasure!
Amazing review! Thank you so much. Greatings from Chile.
Thanks for watching!
Heel erg bedankt.
Had ik uw kanaal maar 10 jaar eerder ontdekt❤
Fijn weekend meneer Beekhuyzen
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Thank you, this is a very relevant and helpful review, especially the sound impressions (and the internals walkaround: no easy way to swap opamps). Looks like a product worthy of the price. Let's see how the DAC section compares with other ES9038SPro designs.
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Danke! ☕️
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Thank you for the great review and I have to say that I don't believe a lot of RUclipsrs but all your viedeos make me build part of my system 🎉❤
and you was always right 👍
Thank you for your support
Glad to hear it!
This product is very versatile!
It is
Hope you are well Hans!
thanks (again) for the excellent review!
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Thankyou for such comprehensive reviews.
My pleasure!
Bedankt
Graag gedaan
And of course, thanks for your review, Hans.
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The FIR filter is actually a very powerful feature, and it can also be used for time domain correction. However, it requires more advanced software, such as standalone tools like Audiolense. After creating the FIR filter, it can be imported into the A10’s convolution engine. That said, the DSP expertise required for this is quite high, so I am merely pointing it out. It’s not that FIR is limited to correcting amplitude; it just needs more powerful tools to design the FIR filter properly.
Agreed
Platinum age of audio. Audio is better than ever - greater proportion of excellent products, more features, better sound, more accessible, more convenient form factors, more convenient, more affordable/higher value, and on, and on, and on.
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Great review as always -- cheers
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Thank you for the comprehensive review, as always greatly appreciated! I am very tempted to sell my McIntosh c50 preamp, Ares 12th DAC, WiiM Pro, and Sony HAPZ1ES Music server and replace 4 boxes and multiple cables with the EverSolo A10! From the reviews I have watched I would not sacrifice any quality in the preamp section, and I would gain quality in the DAC section and room correction comes along with it! I would keep my 3 amplifiers, McIntosh mc352, Carver Crimson 275 tube amp and my DIY class D mono amps. I really enjoy swapping out amps to get differences in the sound. I also like to bi amp my Klipsch La Scala speakers with the class D amps and the tubes. Having 3 amps and EQ always keeps the music flowing and fresh! Again thanks for the review!
My pleasure.
Thank you Hans for your usual comprehensive review. I'm happy to see that room correction is included. Now an option on the upcoming Bluesound Node Icon and already included on the WiiM Ultra is hopefully a sign that the industry is beginning to 'get with the 'program'. The dedicated USB out allowing the use of a better external DAC is welcome but begs the question, of whether the room correction is still available through the USB out. Disappointed that the A10 apparently does not include a high/low pass feature, which is offered with the WiiM Ultra. Especially as the A10 has dual subouts. But overall, a big step in the right direction.
It does have high pass and low pass as I have shown in the video. The digital outputs all can be sent through the DSP functions, including USB.
Amazing thanks Hans 😮
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Great review and it looks like my next purchase.
Enjoy the music
Gracias señor Hans!!!!
De nada
First yess :) Thanks for the review Hans
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Very nice. This seems like a cheaper, but capable alternative to the much more expensive Nad M66
I can't say. I've not reviewed the M66 yet.
Well done
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bedankt!
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Enjoyed the review better than hardware specs. Loved listening to it. Thank you!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
im never going to buy this but your explanations were brilliant ,it actually is a great product but unfortunately my pocket only goes to wimm
I understand
Great video. I love the Eversolo streamers and I'm thinking about this one, too.
One question: I have some room problems that I cannot solve with putting things to walls. These problems also affect my record player. Could it be an option to go from my phono-pre into an analog in of the Eversolo and send it through the room correction? Then back to my amplifier and that's it. What do you think?
Yes it does
Beste Hans,
Dank voor de vele verhelderende reviews. Complimenten en een verademing in een alsmaar ingewikkelde materie en materiaal.
Hoe verhoud zich deze A10 tot de vernieuwde Auralic G2.2 series ? Bijvoorbeeld de Vega?
Dank ,
Groet,
Maurice Haenen
Vega review coming...
Dank Hans, kijk ernaar uit !
Is de auralic s1 wel al een concurrent ?
Sorry it's the S1 I will review
Just want to repeat what most people here said … “Great review !!”
I do the same: 🙏🏻🙏🏻😄
I am more interested in sound than features and tech. I have an A8, and it sounds like the A10 has a better Pre, and better DAC. I won't upgrade to the A10. I will save money and wait for an all in one Streamer, Pre, and DAC from Holo Audio based on the Cyan. I have faith it will come someday soon.
I understand
Peter Gabriel; this confirms my faith in your musical acumen. I am curious if the A10 has home theater bypass. I pretty sure the A8 has it, so I'm guessing this must since it should be trivial to implement.
Not that I know of
Thank you for this video. Question: how good is the preamp specifically? In your test, did you prefer driving your amp as an integrated or as a power amp?
Both!
Nice video. May I ask if the room correction also work for sub woofer integration?
I haven't tried but I don't think so.
I understand there is quite the price difference to the A10 but a review of the Bluesound Node Icon would be interesting 🧐
Noted
Thank you for this review. I wonder how the A10 compares with the Mytek Brooklyn Bridge II, but maybe you don’t have it around anymore. I am on the market to buy a new streamer+DAC since Mytek failed to honor their contract of exchange between the original BB and the BB II.
The BB II is one step ahead and has a Roon server integrated.
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Thanks for the Review.
Can you imagine that the A10 would be better than the integrated electronics of a Dynaudio Focus 50?
You had already tested the Dynaudio.
That was a long time ago….
Very comprehensive, Thank you!can you save music from the internal streamer to added internal SSDs?
Unfortunately not
As always an excellent very professional review. I have an A8 that I upgraded with a Beatechnik LPS-A8 power supply. I recently moved the A8 to my secondary system and have been looking at the A10 as a replacement in my primary system. In this price range a crossed-shopped competitor is the HiFi Rose RS150B. Both have very similar features and capabilities and are are using Sabre DAC's. Anyone have any thoughts on the sound signature differences?
Thanks for sharing
Another great review Hans! I am curious to know your impressions of the two different DACs: A8 (warmer?) vs. the A10 (more clinical?). I am trying to choose between buying the A10 or the Lumin P1-mini. Have you ever used any Lumin products? Thanks, Russ
I rather think it is the reverse.
Really enjoyed your review. Thank you. Most streaming devices come with preamp functions in these days. I have a reasonably good tube preamp from Conrad Johnson. Should I consider A10 for both streamer and preamp? Or I should look for a streamer only without preamp? Thanks.
I would go for a streamer without pre-amp or use the streamer with the pre-amp switched off (effectively the volume control). And I would go for a slightly higher sound quality given your amp.
Hans, you were very reserved in your description of the sound and not made any comparisons with other devices(without A8).You only tested the A10 with one system this Time. Why? Another reviewer said that the A10 is not SFP+ capable. In your test, were you able to identify a sound advantage over SFP to LAN? Thank you
Using the SPF did give a small improvement in sound quality. But the eno2 filter did so much more.
Looks like the external heatsinks are just for aestetics... aren't they?
They are. I think it's to mach the power amp the introduced.
Would love to get pre-amp impressions from you on this unit.
I have no analog sources.
Wow Hans, that is a very positive review I can see why it took so long. Can it play Apple music as an end unit or only from an Apple device?
It’s definitely an option if I the active modules into my PMC’s, not a fan of the “fancy” volume knob unfortunately.
It does Apple formats and, if you need it, also Airplay 2
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cool, so can it compare with the AURALiC g2.1 or is that the next step on?
Sounds like another winner! But hard to imagine what it sounds like when you said it "it involves you in the music". My experience with being invovled with the music has always been the music itself, not because of the gear. A Chet Baker trumpet solo mono recording coming from an AM radio or a stereo remix from a two-channel would get me invovled with the music just as well.
Enjoy the music
Does it have an home theater bypass on the analog in?
It's frustrating to see all these "pre-amp" devices that cannot be used as pass thru devices when connected to a receiver in a home theater/streamer mixed setup.
Sorry No
The A10 is a clear competitor to the NAD M66. Any thoughts on the comparison? Thanks so much and keep up the good work.
I have not reviewed the M66 so I can't say.
NAD is way more expensive and much worse built (capacitors, soldering). NAD, Audiolab, Cambridge are all devices built to fail after the warranty expires. Just look up the pictures of the insides.
Is the build quality comparable to the Hifi Rose?
The build quality is above average. I can's say if it's better than the Hifi Rose. I cNever could get my hands on a Hifii Rose review sample.
I’m deciding between this or Marantz AV10.
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I understand the quality comparison but we’re talking many £’000’s difference. If you went with the Eversolo what part of your system would you invest in with that saving?
@@eCommencal id like to replace my avr and add more home theater channels.
If you need an AVR then the Marantz AV10 it top notch. I own it and love it and it sounds great with music and movies! Not sure this streamer is a competition other than for your $$ lol. They’d make a great pair someday 😊
Isn't that filters then a smps in the upper right? Sounds like even if it's not a full smps, it will still create switching noise no?
It is a SMPS but it's only used for standby and voltage selection so it doesn't get into the audio circuits.
You alluded to it but was there a noticeable difference between using it as a streamer vs using it as a streamer&preamp?
No
Have you had a chance to review the latest Nad M66 streaming preamp? If so how do they compare?
No, not yet
This has left me confused. On one hand its the be all and ends all, yet on the other i get the feeling that there's better sound for less money like the Cyan 2. 🤷♂️
The Cyan 2 is a completely different beast, incomparable
Thank you Hans great review. Would have been useful to include a HDMI input so we could connect an Apple TV directly to the unit and also they could of included a HDMI output socket to work with legacy AV surround processors. I like the inclusion of the SFP port this is nice touch and the DSP functions and stereo sub outputs are on point. The price is also very competative
It does have an HDMO ARC input so you can connect an Apple TV
Hello Hans..
Just a question : this DMP A10 is all in one system (streamer, dac, pre amp) without implementation of Master Clock (dedicated Master clock unit) like other high end Digital Music players. How do you compare with other high end Digital Streamers (that implementing Master clock unit separate) ??
Itt has two OCXO's as master clock.
Hi Hans, I heard a contention that a mac pro with adurivana will kill any any streamer going into a dac?? What’s your opinion on that?? Thanks
I recently did not test Audirvaña so I can't say.
A mac pro desktop computer with Audirvana? I don't think so. I've had that setup and have a very good USB input DAC, the RME ADI-2. Even without Audirvana, using Qobuz desktop alone, the sound is excellent. But I've bettered it with a WiiM Pro, external 5v power supply, using a Verizon fiber optic router running through two Cisco Meraki connected by fiber into the WiiM pro and then glass toslink into the RME DAC with the latest Roon 2.0 version.
I've tested these both direct wired from an old 2012 Mac Mini and also a M1 Macbook Air. The Cisco Meraki fiber to the WiiM Pro wins due to the heft and depth of the sound improved. Both are however excellent. Audrivana is very good and IMHE, there was a nice benefit to using its DSD upsampling options.
But does it have AirPlay 2? Still sour that my DMP-A6 ME only has Airplay 1
Airplay 2 is specified.
18:20 I don't think you used an actual iPad 2... the iPad 2 came out in 2011 and doesn't even support basic apps anymore.
iPad Pro 2
Here the A8 was $3,000 but now it’s currently $2,600. The A10 is $6,500. Are we to believe there’s $3,900 of extra goodies in this compared to the A8. $1,000 yes but that’s about it. I will stick with my A8 because this one is way overpriced.
That's a hefty price.
Thanks for the review.
I kinda would like to know what i am missing out... but....
I just sold my dmp8, bought a kiwistreamer and i am never going back to chi-fi again!
What is a Kiwistreamer?
Have fun!
@@trebep from dion audio in the netherlands.
I can only find it for 3.780,00 €
I saw the Dutch price at MagnaHifi.com
The screen in the volume knob ruins it for me.
That’s OK, don’t feel bad
It may be fortunate that I don't play in the upper-end hifi playground, it would be so hard to pick from the awesome choices above 3K.
$3000 is pretty entry level. Above the budget stuff though.
Enjoy the music.
@@Pete.across.the.streetthat is your opinion
The A10 seems like good value to me
I have no use for it but if I were looking to spend around $3K on a streamer I would consider this one for sure
@@middleearthltd i think the a8 is a better value at almost half the price. I don't think it's worth the upgrade to the A10 unless the sound quality is substantially better. I'm am going to mod my A8 for less than the price difference and hopefully get better sound. Doesn't seem like a bad device at all.
@@Pete.across.the.street Agree. I haven’t seen reviewers really detail the sound quality benefits over the A8. The A10 has a DAC that some think is inferior to the one in the A8.