This technique reminds me of music cues specifically on medical themed tv shows. Lol I can see how this would benefit a composer who has to churn out material on a weekly basis.
Honestly after trying this out the last few weeks I swear I was able to recreate half the random cues from House MD haha. With the right sounds it's incredibly close to most modern medical dramas!
Lol. It’s a fugue. It’s a lot like a lot of music from like everywhere in western civilization since the renaissance. I do love it still. It sounds like tons of modern classical music to me. Add drones and noise swells and we are in a crime drama in Iceland.
I hate that you put this in my head 😝 because it does sound like a medical drama. It’s like when someone says something sounds like elevator music or infomercial music. I guess it’s all in what you do with it. What kind of instruments and drums you use and how you arrange it.
I gave it a shot. Spent a total of five minutes with a $5 soft synth and I've just been blissed out looping the chillest 8 measures of music I've ever heard. I love this! Thanks for sharing.
Yes, this is like a cannon in classical music. I use a similar technique but kind of non MIDI...rendering audio files in Fruity Loops at half tempo, double tempo, pitched up and down an octave, reversed, using different sounds, etc. and then layered up in Acid in its main arrange window...it's my secret weapon for the ambient/classical music I make.
@@joshstead6078 Canon is much more rigid than fugue. (The word "canon" literally means "rule.") In a canon, each voice uses the same material, altered only through translation (i.e. starting later), inversion, transposition, or change in tempo or articulation. In a fugue (the word comes from "fuga," meaning "flight"), the voices are variations on the same material, which gives the composer much more expressive freedom. Compare Bach's Canon 4 (ruclips.net/video/_xVLxyfEOao/видео.html) and the D Major Fugue from WTK (ruclips.net/video/zmuSYb84b1Y/видео.html, which is also one of the best performances of any piece of music ever recorded in my not so humble opinion). The technique Cameron's using here generates canons. (Specifically, as Pat Cupo observes, prolation canons. There are a lot of subdivisions of the canon form, and I'm relatively innocent of pre-Baroque music so I'm oversimplifying here.)
@@uhhhclem Thank you for the elaborate explanation. If this comment wasn't 10 months old I would suspect Chat GPT to be at play, which is really dumb when I think about it. - Goes to show you where the world is at right now.
I like your approach to the theory! It shows there are more ways than one to skin that kitty. I use Ableton and I am going to experiment with how I can use the more recent midi clip functions to arrive at similar outcomes.
Very cool and never heard of Fugue Machine. The technique is very old though, like pre-Baroque. It’s called a “Prolation Canon” or sometimes a “Mensuration Canon”. Perfect fit for a DAW, good idea.
Great video! I've loved using my own variations of fugue composition techniques for a long time...here are a couple suggestions you can try: 1) experiment with uneven loop lengths...like 3, 5, 7...since they won't line up with your bars of 4 (for example) they will overlap in more interesting ways over time. 2) When you get further into the arrangement stage, duplicate your basic main loop of all voices, across however long your song is...then start pulling out layers, and let different voices come through to create the various sections of your song.
I've only been making DAW music for about three months. Of all the videos and how to's this is beyond helpful. Not only was this straight forward and fun as heck to do I got to learn a lot more about my DAW. Will for sure be trying more of this. Thank you so much.
I seriously love your channel more and more as RUclips keeps throwing you on the tracks in front of me. Just wanted to say thanks for all of it. The technical, the synth stuff, the production techniques, the theory, and especially the human aspect of it all with work/life balance. Wishing you the best!
as someone who makes music solely on an ipad and also someone who has and loves fugue machine, this is a BRILLIANT idea. you get a lot more flexibility and control. thanks for sharing!
Great stuff here! it's a cool way to get a musical tune started. for me I'm already thinking about adding arpeggiators and throwing all this stuff into a granular synth. will definitely try this later
A liberal sprinkling of instances of Bleass Granulizer and Output Portal would be 🔥. Output Movement would be great to breathe some fluid rhythm into the time-stretched parts with some XY pad modulation thrown in. Bitwig is fantastic for modulation, among other things.
this is so cool. Although i often use similar techniques when it comes to "timestretching midi", I had never used reversed midi patterns before. So I just looked up how to reverse or invert midi patterns in Reaper (mirrored through the x or y axis). Came up with a really fun song idea that way. THANKS for the inspiration!
@@jennoscura2381 like i said, it's somewhat hidden in the (midi editor) actions. :) "reverse midi", there's several options. (might wanna choose a scale in the midi editor as well, so flipped notes along the y axis snap to the scale)
The possibilities here are limitless. I was going to get off of youtube then said "ah screw it. One more video." To think I may have missed this gem and the inspiration it has given me. Now I just gotta fight the urge to fire up my DAW 6 hours before I have to be at work. Thank You for this video.
When i started making music i did this on a son i had to make for a class intuitively, idk how but even to the point of each layer being played by different instruments and all and to this day making fuges is the technique i love the most
Ironically, this method is very close to how I learned how to produce audio in FL Studio. Though a few years later I moved away from that approach as I felt it was lazy or too simple. A the time I started to abandon it, I was just getting into utilizing complex chord progressions in my works. I recently returned to this approach when I got stuck trying to work out the composition of a track I was working on. Sometimes it's good to return to the basics and simpler things.
@@dolphin-sd Not really, the closest think I can think of that would use note probability is its Riff Machine in the Tools drop down menu. I recommend giving it a try.
@@dolphin-sd you can use a plugin called Stochas. It works like the piano roll of FL. You can place your midi notes inside that plugin and also set the values for the probability.
I had already figured out a similar technique for making sleep ambient music for myself (using much longer notes in general), except I didn't know how to make the probability thing work in my DAW. I thought it was just an amateur lazy way to go about things at the time. Now I'm feeling a little smug and I want to try it again.
I use a lot of these techniques on the Toraiz Squid Sequencer which has the advantage of being real time. I hadn't thought of slowing parts down though and will definitely try out having tracks play at different speeds.
this is sooo cooooool. going to be messing with this for awhile. adding the probability function and recording it for awhile creating limitless variations to later sample, and even mangle even more with plugins like portal....and on and on and on!!
That's interesting. I do baroque improvisation, or try to anyway, and I often wonder about ways contemporary hobby musicians might benefit from that approach and learn some of it in intuitive ways. While what you show is obviously a bit mechanical, it does make for a good and easy entry point. I like your work, you obviously put a lot of effort in producing your videos and make a very good job of it.
I've known you for a very long time V, and still I can not get over the timbre of your voice. Epic frequencies when you speak. Ok, back to the technique you were showing. :)) That's nice too...
Someone has already said it but yeah this is prolation/proportional/mensuration canon. I've been doing it for years. What inspired me to utilize the technique was Pachelbel's Canon and memories of when we used to sing in canon back in elementary school.
Very interesting techniques you showed lately here, thanks a lot for sharing them. Simple and very effective, I love it and this Fugue inspired one is my favorite.
This is a great tutorial for an awesome technique. About half way through the video I tried it simply in my DAW and came up with a great foundation for a track already. Thanks for this.
I watched this edition immediately after you video about solving writers block by using a randomly generated loop as a starting point. Almost right after your first cloning/ stretching/ reversing pass my brain wanted brass chords laid down out of sync with the counterpoint ( Does anybody really know what time it is by Chicago or maybe Earth Wind and Fire). I was suddenly possessed by the idea that I knew what your idea needed (I don't have that confidence or that competence). Cue lightbulb! 💡
You have an excellent natural instrument! Your voice! You should be getting plenty of voice over work! It's a shame you are not based in the UK as I would definitely be your agent.
Perfect RUclips video. Short, clear, replicable, inspiring. I think fugue machine makes it (almost too) easy to quantize to scale when raising or lower the pitch. But it also is easy to start from a different location too - all of which are next steps. Ableton also allows you to flip or invert the sequence. I’m sure most daws do too.
What a great tutorial. I am sorry I can't contribute as a patreon as I live inVenezuela and our credit cards are useless over the internet. I really enjoy your channel. Fantastic and very well explained information! Keep the great work my friend!
I am very impressed with this approach and I hope to try it out soon. I do have to take issue with the title. Counterpoint, let alone fugue was unknown in 1300. Bach started on The Art of the Fugue in 1742 and, with many interruptions, continued working on it until 1749.
Very interesting video, thanks for sharing this. I had no idea I could Alt drag on a MIDI region in Logic to "time stretch" the MIDI events, great to know.
ok, ok, ok - so I totally bootlegged something together in Ableton with arpeggios and removing notes and stuff - hilarious fun lol. But I'd love to see you throw something together in Ableton so I can learn a few tricks and techniques :)
I saw the Fugue Machine video mentioned here. I got really excited, until I learned it was available for Mac users only. I'm super glad you made this video, Cameron, I'll try to play around with this myself. Also, apropos of the theme of this video.... I absolutely love the way your voice rumbles my sub-woofer, bro. I need your mic and to know how you process your own vocals. :D
There's also a Max 4 Live fugue machine style sequencer for Ableton. Can't remember who made it though. I've also seen a free device made for Bitwig that does this as well. This is a cool method though. Will give this a try later. It might also be interesting to route all these midi clips to a device like Autotonic that allows you to transpose to different keys/modes for greater variety in the sequence. You could do this in the piano roll of course, but I feel that some sort midi device would would be more dynamic and open to free and spontaneous improvisation.
imho not very good for viewership to say that we should be making music instead fo watching youtube. Cause it's 100% true. Thaks for keeping me on track, please do that at the start of every video :)
Fantastic tutorial and such a great creative concept. Had a lot of fun using this technique in Cubase, though reverse didn't work, the Cubase equivalent seems to be "mirror". Love your channel. 🙂
This is brilliant! I am a stage in my music making abilities that I can only come up with short snippets. I will have to try this out to see if my short snippets can be turned into a full on song with this technique. I love the random aspect. I need to see if I can do the probability thing in Reaper.
Great vid ! I was thinking….If you did this in the clip launcher instead of the arrangement view you wouldn’t have to arrange the clips manually in the timeline plus you could make use of the follow actions for additional variety 🤔
Nice one an, a fun technique for sparking some ideas. Used Fugue Machine a fair bit but never thought to ‘transpose’ the concept to a DAW like this, cheers. Peace ✌️
Purdy cool indeed! I get lost tweaking sometimes... Stochas, Riffer, each of their levels operating different channels of different arp'd/sequenced soft-somethiingorothers. I may have to mess with this too! Can't believe I'll allow it to simplify anything, though. 😏
Great vid! I use canon techniques and never knew the correct terminology so thanks to those who mentioned that below. I would like to know if and what specific techniques equal which function, meaning for example, if there is a name for creating a variation using time stretching and a name for reversal? I think this could be a great topic to bring up when improvising and jamming in a small ensemble.
I just feel at home in Studio One, but it doesn't seem to have those easy to use "operators", not even the ability to easily stretch a sequence like Bitwig.... I think I'll check out Bitwig and give it a try. It seems so much more creative at this level.... tnx Cameron
Sometimes RUclips really is magical. I was just thinking yesterday of trying to do the same thing in Bitwig after playing with Fugue Machine. And without researching if that has ever been done today this video pops up in my recommendations! I‘m stunned. The algorithm now can read minds. Or morphogenetic fields really do exist. What do i know.
i think this is the digital analog to how brian eno makes music? afaik his early work was a lot of stretching simple tape loops and automating slight differences
Perfect timing! I was wondering how straightforward this would be last week. I need to brush up on my keyboard shortcuts. Do you think there's any merit to taking each track and dragging them into the clip player where you can set them to have different loop lengths for never repeating patterns? I also wondered if you could set up multiple tracks with note receivers and sample & hold plus note FX for gate triggers. That way you would only need 1 track which you input note information into and the rest would react to it.
Stuff I never thought of, chapter 12... Damn this is such a great idea! Just need to find where the probability stuff is in Cubase. Had cubase for many years and only now did I find "time stretch midi notes" isn't activated by default but IS IN THERE... About time I did the patron thing and bought "mah boy" a coffee. Thanks Cameron. 😎 update - Did the patron thing after coming up with a beautiful little thing I'd have never written otherwise. Still a WIP but this worked really really well. And found several things in cubase I never realised were there (RTFM next time...)
So does Cubase actually have this? I saw a feature request for it from a year ago but I'm not sure if it was ever implemented and I'm currently away from my DAW thus unable to check. 😞
@@maximadigital Which bit? The probability stuff? Kinda. I'm on cubase 8 Artist and its In midi functions and in the logic editor. Doesn't quite work like the Bitwig option though and I gave up on that part. Reversing and time stretching midi notes was an easier find.
What do you think of this technique? 🤔
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I thought it was great, thanks dude
Always looking for ways to make my two-bar loops into something. Appreciated!
I still use HY plugins for similar use cases.
Love this stuff! Thanks for sharing. Definitely trying this for fresh ideas.
Cool technique. I'm not sure is time stretching Midi clips possible in Ableton though, is it??
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This technique reminds me of music cues specifically on medical themed tv shows. Lol I can see how this would benefit a composer who has to churn out material on a weekly basis.
Honestly after trying this out the last few weeks I swear I was able to recreate half the random cues from House MD haha. With the right sounds it's incredibly close to most modern medical dramas!
Lol. It’s a fugue. It’s a lot like a lot of music from like everywhere in western civilization since the renaissance. I do love it still. It sounds like tons of modern classical music to me. Add drones and noise swells and we are in a crime drama in Iceland.
Yup, this genre is definitely called House music. 😁
I hate that you put this in my head 😝 because it does sound like a medical drama. It’s like when someone says something sounds like elevator music or infomercial music. I guess it’s all in what you do with it. What kind of instruments and drums you use and how you arrange it.
House MD was what came to my mind immidiately !
I gave it a shot. Spent a total of five minutes with a $5 soft synth and I've just been blissed out looping the chillest 8 measures of music I've ever heard. I love this! Thanks for sharing.
Which soft synth?
Yes, this is like a cannon in classical music. I use a similar technique but kind of non MIDI...rendering audio files in Fruity Loops at half tempo, double tempo, pitched up and down an octave, reversed, using different sounds, etc. and then layered up in Acid in its main arrange window...it's my secret weapon for the ambient/classical music I make.
Isn't it more like a fugue? Which would make sense given that plug in
@@joshstead6078 Canon is much more rigid than fugue. (The word "canon" literally means "rule.") In a canon, each voice uses the same material, altered only through translation (i.e. starting later), inversion, transposition, or change in tempo or articulation. In a fugue (the word comes from "fuga," meaning "flight"), the voices are variations on the same material, which gives the composer much more expressive freedom.
Compare Bach's Canon 4 (ruclips.net/video/_xVLxyfEOao/видео.html) and the D Major Fugue from WTK (ruclips.net/video/zmuSYb84b1Y/видео.html, which is also one of the best performances of any piece of music ever recorded in my not so humble opinion). The technique Cameron's using here generates canons.
(Specifically, as Pat Cupo observes, prolation canons. There are a lot of subdivisions of the canon form, and I'm relatively innocent of pre-Baroque music so I'm oversimplifying here.)
not any more...
@@uhhhclem Thank you for the elaborate explanation. If this comment wasn't 10 months old I would suspect Chat GPT to be at play, which is really dumb when I think about it. - Goes to show you where the world is at right now.
I like your approach to the theory! It shows there are more ways than one to skin that kitty. I use Ableton and I am going to experiment with how I can use the more recent midi clip functions to arrive at similar outcomes.
Very cool and never heard of Fugue Machine. The technique is very old though, like pre-Baroque. It’s called a “Prolation Canon” or sometimes a “Mensuration Canon”. Perfect fit for a DAW, good idea.
I read "menstruation cannon", and I can't tell you the image was pleasant...
@@MagnaKay Autocorrect had the same idea, but the name is what it is 🤷🏻♂️
@@MagnaKay bro same
It was invented during the mensuration period.
@@LiftPizzas we should mensurate less and can on more
Great video! I've loved using my own variations of fugue composition techniques for a long time...here are a couple suggestions you can try: 1) experiment with uneven loop lengths...like 3, 5, 7...since they won't line up with your bars of 4 (for example) they will overlap in more interesting ways over time. 2) When you get further into the arrangement stage, duplicate your basic main loop of all voices, across however long your song is...then start pulling out layers, and let different voices come through to create the various sections of your song.
I've only been making DAW music for about three months. Of all the videos and how to's this is beyond helpful. Not only was this straight forward and fun as heck to do I got to learn a lot more about my DAW. Will for sure be trying more of this. Thank you so much.
I seriously love your channel more and more as RUclips keeps throwing you on the tracks in front of me. Just wanted to say thanks for all of it. The technical, the synth stuff, the production techniques, the theory, and especially the human aspect of it all with work/life balance. Wishing you the best!
as someone who makes music solely on an ipad and also someone who has and loves fugue machine, this is a BRILLIANT idea. you get a lot more flexibility and control. thanks for sharing!
Great stuff here!
it's a cool way to get a musical tune started. for me I'm already thinking about adding arpeggiators and throwing all this stuff into a granular synth. will definitely try this later
A liberal sprinkling of instances of Bleass Granulizer and Output Portal would be 🔥. Output Movement would be great to breathe some fluid rhythm into the time-stretched parts with some XY pad modulation thrown in. Bitwig is fantastic for modulation, among other things.
It's like you have less control and yet more control at the same time, proper zen business. I like this a lot.
this is so cool. Although i often use similar techniques when it comes to "timestretching midi", I had never used reversed midi patterns before. So I just looked up how to reverse or invert midi patterns in Reaper (mirrored through the x or y axis). Came up with a really fun song idea that way. THANKS for the inspiration!
I need to learn how to do that in Reaper.
timestretching is possible with alt + drag right edge of midi items
@@recordednowhere Yea I looked it up and figured it out. Now I need to figure out how to flip midi.
@@jennoscura2381 like i said, it's somewhat hidden in the (midi editor) actions. :) "reverse midi", there's several options. (might wanna choose a scale in the midi editor as well, so flipped notes along the y axis snap to the scale)
@@recordednowhere Thanks for the info.
The possibilities here are limitless. I was going to get off of youtube then said "ah screw it. One more video." To think I may have missed this gem and the inspiration it has given me. Now I just gotta fight the urge to fire up my DAW 6 hours before I have to be at work. Thank You for this video.
2:07 Felt like I just tuned into an episode of House 😭sooo good
Ok... This is ridiculously fun. Thank you for this one. So good for ambient kind of sounds, and likely way more.
When i started making music i did this on a son i had to make for a class intuitively, idk how but even to the point of each layer being played by different instruments and all and to this day making fuges is the technique i love the most
3:48 thanks for showing this stretching technique. also made me look up "the reverse" shortcut that I wasn't aware of!
Free Loop/Arp maker. You never cease to amaze. Thank you very much.
Ironically, this method is very close to how I learned how to produce audio in FL Studio. Though a few years later I moved away from that approach as I felt it was lazy or too simple. A the time I started to abandon it, I was just getting into utilizing complex chord progressions in my works. I recently returned to this approach when I got stuck trying to work out the composition of a track I was working on. Sometimes it's good to return to the basics and simpler things.
Do you know if there’s any way to use note probability in Fl Studio?
@@dolphin-sd Not really, the closest think I can think of that would use note probability is its Riff Machine in the Tools drop down menu. I recommend giving it a try.
@@dolphin-sd you can use a plugin called Stochas. It works like the piano roll of FL. You can place your midi notes inside that plugin and also set the values for the probability.
I had already figured out a similar technique for making sleep ambient music for myself (using much longer notes in general), except I didn't know how to make the probability thing work in my DAW. I thought it was just an amateur lazy way to go about things at the time. Now I'm feeling a little smug and I want to try it again.
I use a lot of these techniques on the Toraiz Squid Sequencer which has the advantage of being real time. I hadn't thought of slowing parts down though and will definitely try out having tracks play at different speeds.
I came up with this method some time ago and keep forgetting to implement it. Thanks for the reminder, Buckadoodaloo.
this is sooo cooooool. going to be messing with this for awhile. adding the probability function and recording it for awhile creating limitless variations to later sample, and even mangle even more with plugins like portal....and on and on and on!!
That's interesting. I do baroque improvisation, or try to anyway, and I often wonder about ways contemporary hobby musicians might benefit from that approach and learn some of it in intuitive ways. While what you show is obviously a bit mechanical, it does make for a good and easy entry point. I like your work, you obviously put a lot of effort in producing your videos and make a very good job of it.
Wow! What a great tool to combat creativity block! Thanks for this video! 😀
I've known you for a very long time V, and still I can not get over the timbre of your voice. Epic frequencies when you speak. Ok, back to the technique you were showing. :)) That's nice too...
Someone has already said it but yeah this is prolation/proportional/mensuration canon. I've been doing it for years. What inspired me to utilize the technique was Pachelbel's Canon and memories of when we used to sing in canon back in elementary school.
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Very interesting techniques you showed lately here, thanks a lot for sharing them. Simple and very effective, I love it and this Fugue inspired one is my favorite.
This is my to go to video for writing ideas when i have a beatblock
You have some of the best quality and most helpful videos I have ever seen!
It would be really cool hearing the same procedure, with only percussion/drums :) Thanks for sharing!
This is a great tutorial for an awesome technique. About half way through the video I tried it simply in my DAW and came up with a great foundation for a track already. Thanks for this.
I watched this edition immediately after you video about solving writers block by using a randomly generated loop as a starting point.
Almost right after your first cloning/ stretching/ reversing pass my brain wanted brass chords laid down out of sync with the counterpoint ( Does anybody really know what time it is by Chicago or maybe Earth Wind and Fire). I was suddenly possessed by the idea that I knew what your idea needed (I don't have that confidence or that competence).
Cue lightbulb! 💡
Excellent video/audio quality, useful/interesting content and the dude has a serious radio voice.
Gtreat thinking. I love fugue machine. This idea is a a great way to conquer writers block and give inspiration for something bigger.
I used to do this with Atari Cubase and the Phrase synth!
Great Vid.
You have an excellent natural instrument! Your voice! You should be getting plenty of voice over work! It's a shame you are not based in the UK as I would definitely be your agent.
Perfect RUclips video. Short, clear, replicable, inspiring. I think fugue machine makes it (almost too) easy to quantize to scale when raising or lower the pitch. But it also is easy to start from a different location too - all of which are next steps. Ableton also allows you to flip or invert the sequence. I’m sure most daws do too.
Funny, have been working on a Zoia patch to do something similar when I stumbled upon this. Sounds great, looking forward to finishing up my gadget.
This is why I like those loop packs. The MIDI can be super useful rather than the audio loops.
Thanks for this video. Very helpful. You can also add halftime by cableguys to create an enhancement for this technique.
Synthstrom Deluge can copy a couple of bars then paste into another clip of more bars, it stretches the midi over whatever size it pastes into.
Cameron, I think your intros are absolutely the USP of this channel. That's what separates you from others.
What a great tutorial. I am sorry I can't contribute as a patreon as I live inVenezuela and our credit cards are useless over the internet. I really enjoy your channel. Fantastic and very well explained information! Keep the great work my friend!
I am very impressed with this approach and I hope to try it out soon. I do have to take issue with the title. Counterpoint, let alone fugue was unknown in 1300. Bach started on The Art of the Fugue in 1742 and, with many interruptions, continued working on it until 1749.
Very interesting video, thanks for sharing this. I had no idea I could Alt drag on a MIDI region in Logic to "time stretch" the MIDI events, great to know.
Thanks Cameron! Been experimenting with this idea a little, but you offered new insights as usual!
Any way of executing this method, with what I am guessing are keyboard shortcuts in Ableton Live?
Ace! Thanks. As a huge fan of fugue machine, I’m more inspired to take up your daw concept. Cheers. Lee
ok, ok, ok - so I totally bootlegged something together in Ableton with arpeggios and removing notes and stuff - hilarious fun lol. But I'd love to see you throw something together in Ableton so I can learn a few tricks and techniques :)
I like this dude. Inspired me with new ideas every video I watch.
I saw the Fugue Machine video mentioned here. I got really excited, until I learned it was available for Mac users only. I'm super glad you made this video, Cameron, I'll try to play around with this myself.
Also, apropos of the theme of this video.... I absolutely love the way your voice rumbles my sub-woofer, bro. I need your mic and to know how you process your own vocals. :D
Just played around with this technique on my Dirtywave M8 and it sounds pretty amazing in seconds! Thank you for an amazing tip.
neato burrito. the ad placement was a nice touch, magic!
Great info,-Thx 👍
Wish I was home and not at the gym! Need to try this now! Thanks you again
Love it!!! Super inspiring trick 👏👏👏. Thanks for shearing
There's also a Max 4 Live fugue machine style sequencer for Ableton. Can't remember who made it though. I've also seen a free device made for Bitwig that does this as well. This is a cool method though. Will give this a try later. It might also be interesting to route all these midi clips to a device like Autotonic that allows you to transpose to different keys/modes for greater variety in the sequence. You could do this in the piano roll of course, but I feel that some sort midi device would would be more dynamic and open to free and spontaneous improvisation.
imho not very good for viewership to say that we should be making music instead fo watching youtube. Cause it's 100% true. Thaks for keeping me on track, please do that at the start of every video :)
Fantastic tutorial and such a great creative concept. Had a lot of fun using this technique in Cubase, though reverse didn't work, the Cubase equivalent seems to be "mirror". Love your channel. 🙂
This is brilliant! I am a stage in my music making abilities that I can only come up with short snippets. I will have to try this out to see if my short snippets can be turned into a full on song with this technique. I love the random aspect. I need to see if I can do the probability thing in Reaper.
Great vid ! I was thinking….If you did this in the clip launcher instead of the arrangement view you wouldn’t have to arrange the clips manually in the timeline plus you could make use of the follow actions for additional variety 🤔
Right clicking on the clips gives you the necessary stretch options.
Nice one an, a fun technique for sparking some ideas. Used Fugue Machine a fair bit but never thought to ‘transpose’ the concept to a DAW like this, cheers. Peace ✌️
Purdy cool indeed! I get lost tweaking sometimes... Stochas, Riffer, each of their levels operating different channels of different arp'd/sequenced soft-somethiingorothers. I may have to mess with this too! Can't believe I'll allow it to simplify anything, though. 😏
OMG, this is sublime!
Great show, Cam! You're a ver y good teacher.
Great vid! I use canon techniques and never knew the correct terminology so thanks to those who mentioned that below. I would like to know if and what specific techniques equal which function, meaning for example, if there is a name for creating a variation using time stretching and a name for reversal? I think this could be a great topic to bring up when improvising and jamming in a small ensemble.
I just feel at home in Studio One, but it doesn't seem to have those easy to use "operators", not even the ability to easily stretch a sequence like Bitwig.... I think I'll check out Bitwig and give it a try. It seems so much more creative at this level.... tnx Cameron
Check out the MIDI Actions options introduced in Studio One 4.5 - Stretch, Mirror (reverse), Randomize, Thin Out
I am seriously thinking about getting Bitwing thanks to you. So many cool and easy accessible features! 🤯
Sometimes RUclips really is magical.
I was just thinking yesterday of trying to do the same thing in Bitwig after playing with Fugue Machine. And without researching if that has ever been done today this video pops up in my recommendations!
I‘m stunned.
The algorithm now can read minds.
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i think this is the digital analog to how brian eno makes music? afaik his early work was a lot of stretching simple tape loops and automating slight differences
Very cool. But can you stretch midi clips like that in other DAW? In ableton?
Should work in every major daw - there should be information on warping clips in the manual
I do the same kind of stuff with HY Sequencers. Amazing plugin for the kind of random stuff. Riffer is also another cool one...
Is there a tutorial on how to do something like this with HY Sequencer? I have the plugin but could not really make friends with it yet. tnx
@@xiansamurai774Search for videos on HY-MPS2. That is the best one for that kind of stuff.
Looking forward to using some of these techniques but combined with some through-composed parts and probably a few changes of chords.
This is wonderful information for this old guitar player man ! :)
This is great stuff just what I dig! Very trancy.
Thanks for doing this vid!
"Shouldn't you be making music instead of watching RUclips?"
I feel personally attacked and that's totally on me.
Nice. Thanks. I think to remember you/he talked about a simple DAW like Fugue Machine but just for Mac/PC. Anyone remember the name of that DAW ?
Works like a charm. Pick some good sounds and off to the races :-) Thanks for posting this.
Very inspirational and a great sound. Thank you
Perfect timing! I was wondering how straightforward this would be last week. I need to brush up on my keyboard shortcuts. Do you think there's any merit to taking each track and dragging them into the clip player where you can set them to have different loop lengths for never repeating patterns?
I also wondered if you could set up multiple tracks with note receivers and sample & hold plus note FX for gate triggers. That way you would only need 1 track which you input note information into and the rest would react to it.
That clip player idea sounds cool. Try it!
Very cool. Can you please tell me where I might find the ‘probability’ function in Logic Pro and is it called that or maybe something else? 🙏❤️
Minor addition to the background, a nice airy pad.
Love it-- I had no idea-- thanks!
This is awesome. I love this. Will definitely play with this.
Excellent technique!
Seems very interesting for classical and soundtrack music (like you said).
6:53 -> Is there any way to do this in cubase(12)?
That was very cool thank you for sharing 😄
Great tutorial, thanks!
Stuff I never thought of, chapter 12...
Damn this is such a great idea! Just need to find where the probability stuff is in Cubase. Had cubase for many years and only now did I find "time stretch midi notes" isn't activated by default but IS IN THERE... About time I did the patron thing and bought "mah boy" a coffee. Thanks Cameron. 😎
update - Did the patron thing after coming up with a beautiful little thing I'd have never written otherwise. Still a WIP but this worked really really well. And found several things in cubase I never realised were there (RTFM next time...)
So does Cubase actually have this? I saw a feature request for it from a year ago but I'm not sure if it was ever implemented and I'm currently away from my DAW thus unable to check. 😞
@@maximadigital Which bit? The probability stuff? Kinda. I'm on cubase 8 Artist and its In midi functions and in the logic editor. Doesn't quite work like the Bitwig option though and I gave up on that part. Reversing and time stretching midi notes was an easier find.
@@philmarsh5593 Yeah that exactly. Definitely one of those things I never knew I needed in my life 😅
Super cool idea!
Awesome, thank you.
GREAT IDEA THAKS SO MUCH!!!
I used to do that when I first started making music on FL Studio in the early 2000s.
Can’t wait to try this
I love your intros, but I have to admit, your right XD
Informative video, thanks for posting,
Amazing!! Need to try this out!
Thanks a lot!