Orange Transistor DELIVERS! Orange Super Crush 100 Review
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- Transistor guitar amps have a bad reputation, but Orange shows with the Super Crush 100 that they can be a cost effective alternative that really sounds good and offers a practical alternative to the big and heavy Tube Amps that also cost much more!
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0:00 Slideshow
1:46 Full Song - Swallow my Pride
5:20 Introduction
8;29 Amp Overview
11:36 Clean Sounds
14:23 Reverb
15:48 FX Loop
16:24 with Pedals?
17:23 Marcus Deluxe Vertboard
18:13 Dirt Channel
23:46 Leads
24:46 DI Out
27:27 MY2CENTS
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Your video production is tops! Your demos are thorough! Your playing is great! Your opinions are indeed valid! Thanks for all the terrific information and dedication to the craft!
The amp sounds good. I agree with your take on the DI out. I hate it when amp makers add cab emulation to their DI out. Just give us the untreated signal please. There are plenty of other solutions to get the sounds we want out of the raw DI signal. If they feel they need to include it, at least let it be switched off.
Yes, you´re right! In all the reviews I've seen, the DI-Out has been totally "trashed".
Solid product, solid review. I especially like the clean channel.
I'm a nutso. I'm set on amps, but your reviews are slowly becoming favorite. Thanks!
Regardless of cost, this amp is superb and players of every level will be surprised and should be delighted by these latest Orange products.
Thanks for the video.
I bought this amp a month ago. It’s so good it replaced my Rocker 15. Unlike the Rocker 15 which sucked with pedals this one takes pedal like a champ. No regrets. For all those who are on the fence with this one. Don’t be. Awesome job on the video!🤘
How's the volume compare? I'm shopping several different amps that most people wouldn't. I'm afraid that a 15w dark terror won't be loud enough because our other guitar player has a new super crush 100 lol
I use the cr120 head on a Marshall 4x12 in a Doom band. It's amazing, and super loud!! With my NYC big muff...its a beast!
@@Jeff_HellensBridge The Rocker 15 is very loud. No problem at all with a drummer. The Dark Terror should hold up easily.
When you say it takes pedals, how do you mean?
rocker 15 is 100 times better amp than this. and it takes pedals amazingly. crush series are solid states. they sounds like plastic. Nowadays buying solid states is a waste of money as they are worst than modelers thorough P.A They don't give any personalty to your sound. there are exceptions of course, but not Orange Crush ones.
Was looking at getting one of these just to have a reliable SS amp for when my tube amp craps out, but now I want one just for the fact that it sounds like a beast. Really like the 3-dimensional color on the overdrive on these amps. It's the British overdrive sound on steroids. It's got a ROAR like no other amp I've heard.
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Love that glassy clean. So delicate and not muddy at all
Awesome playing as always Henning,nice amp head for the money, seems great for pedals on the clean channel,all the best.
I always love your honesty in reviews 🤣
Yes, Orange is paying me to do this review 🤣
Very nice amp. I am on a transistor kick lately. I think this will be on my "next years" treat list.
I've been waiting for this.
Great review . Honest ....much respect❤
EXCELLENT VIDEO, I SUBSCRIBED! I have this Amp, and I love it !!
Great video! Good, authentic demo. What you say about the Orange Supercrush is all true!
Transistor amps get a bad rep but I used a Laney World Series 120w head and full stack from 1993-2017..one amp, never failed, I can't count the gigs and it never let me down and LOUD! A full transistor amp comparison from all the big brands would be interesting.
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Yeah but u sounded horrible😂
Cheap beginner level transistior amps suck ass, thats an axiom. Some decent are - roland jc120, sunn beta/concert series, randall rba500, old peaveys and ampegs
I agree, but those amps have been so many albums, and we don’t know. It has a sound and it works, don’t hate it, just learn to use it.
@@bmark7951 I checked for the part where you backed up your bullshit with some sick RUclips videos, but your channel is pretty empty. Bummer dude.
Just ordered a Combo (Yep, they got a combo version! XD) from Guitar Center, can't wait for it to get here and plug my PRS SE Custom 24 into it! Your video here is the best demo I've seen on it. Off topic about the amp, you're amazing at avoiding the copyright devils, even though you never outright played anything, I heard every song! XD
The combo comes with pretty good speakers, too. Most combos skimp out on speakers
Good job on the review,
Please do a Boss Katana Artist Mk II comparison with this to see which one has the best cleans
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I have had the combo for a few weeks and I am definitely in love with it. Glad to see it's not just me thinking the di out tones are less than desirable.
Better to mic it up?
@@pattillo21 for sure. I've tried running the di through an IR loader and it gets better but still doesn't do justice to the true amp sound.
@@coreyrramsay8858 good to know thanks man. I’ll be getting the combo shipped pretty soon. Super excited
@@pattillo21 congrats man, I hope you enjoy it. It is fantastic.
Seems like a real missed opportunity for an option to disable the analog cab sim and allow people to add IRs after the face in a DAW, or use some form of IR device/pedal
One thing I like about SS amps is they will (minus cabinet grunt) sound nearly the same character at all volumes, and you don't need a load brake for it like you do with older full tube amps, if you're hooked up to a cabinet.
Your just so cool dude and direct and to the point..and playing is Exellent..dont have to have long Hair to be a guitar Luthier..great video..my Super Crush i ordered should be here tomorrow, this video makes me more excited about getting it.
I was very proud of myself for catching the Satch chord progression about 3 seconds before you mentioned it was a song by a friend of yours with no hair... 🙂
If i can get the sound ( tone ) from a solid state im all for it. Changing tubes just 1 thing more I wont have to do.
Maj7 #9 - The 'Henning Chord'. Nice :-)
I must be one of the few who don’t mind the DI out. I think it sounds pretty good. Sounds good for an in ear mix. Which is what I would use it for.
Very informative video. Is the DI OUT line level or Mic level ? Thanks
I just bought one of these In a combo version; it's got good reviews 👩 one review said that " its an analog amp; that's how it's got that tube quality sounding amp " end of quote; from: Scranton, Pennsylvania
I’ve got one of those and I can recommend it to everyone , you can get a lot of different sound out of it & works great with pedals,rearranging studio right now & can’t get to it , I remember your big change to your studio , a nightmare that’s seems there is no end
@EytschPi42 Any chance at getting a review on any of the Quilter Labs amplifier?
5 years now with my ORANGE CRUSH 120/Crush 35rt. Countless gigs and rehursals and recording. Nothing had failed. Eveything is going strong and working flawless... I want to try a SUPER CRUSH 100... But since everything has worked so good I may not need to upgrade. I'm sure it's amazing though!!!!
I have 2 CR120s and added the Super Crush. You are right to hesitate. It's a good amp, but saying that these amps have a subtle difference would be bold. They're too similar to justify buying a new one because the super crush isn't an upgrade. I have to turn the gain and volume up higher. After a few minutes of twiddling knobs on the super crush, I realized I was just trying to recreate the sound I get from the CR120. There is definitely not an "ah ha! It IS more valve-like!" moment. I'll hang on to it, but currently having a little bit of buyers remorse. I'm going to keep using my CR120 for both my musical projects and hang on to the super crush as a backup. If it ain't broke, don't fix it... But I get that Orange wanted something marketable to keep amps selling. Cheers!
@@milesskoog7675 Really!? There were two things I didn’t like about my CR120H, how dark/muddy it sounded with high gain and how thin the lead tone was.
It would appear Orange has fixed these two issues, along with adding more clean headroom.
Very good review
I have run the DI out into my interface and put a cab IR on it and it sounds absolutely great.
Definitely want! Can’t afford the rockerverb so this is close enough and sounds really close
Is there danger to running this into a 2x12 cab with one G12h30 (30w) and one V30 (60w)? I realize the cab rating is about 60w at that point, but I'm wondering if 100w solid state is actually different in terms of volume to a 100w tube....and if my speakers should be fine with this amp at gigging levels.
I just got one of these. I plugged a Pod Go into it 4CM style. Drove the Orange preamp with one of the overdrives in the Pod and holy !@#$%! My main rig is distortion-wise a Fortin 33 into a Marshall DSL100HR. I'll have to get a separate noise gate as the one built into the Pod didn't cut it with all that screeching crunch. All I can say is I wouldn't hesitate for a second to use the Pod & Orange for a backup during a live gig if the Marshall or my pedal board pooped out on me
For many years i used a polytone brute with a pretty basic pedal board but i did have an old 15" utah alnico speaker that gave a much smoother sound than the stock speaker
Honestly, if they had the di out without Cab sim, this amp would have been an instant buy for me ☺️
Not the best solution because you would need more equipment, but you can use the effects loop 'send' to get no cab-sim out. You wont be able to use the digital reverb though. From there you can use some sort of DI box to whatever.
Better off with a mic anyways
Thanks for the review, Henning. Any chances to see Hartmann take one of these through it's paces one day? 😉
Best demo. I am getting one 😉
I like this amp but I am having trouble deciding between the Head Unit vs the Combo Amp. I have a 2x12 with an Eminence Governor and Swamp Thang that I would like to use but not sure if it would sound good with the super crush 100 head. Anyone using the super crush with eminence speakers?
No one yet it seems
Awesome demo! Can the Super Crush 100 work with the Captor X to load IR's instead of the built-in DI? Speaker out 8 ohm on the Crush into the Captor X?
It will definitely work with a Captor
Yes
great song, love the vibe.
Combo is 699€ at Thomann ... (yeah... I jumped there about midway through your clip to check it out:P
It’s worth mentioning that the 100 watts is not a measurement of potential volume but a measurement of headroom and the two don’t scale linearly. A low watt amp doesn’t mean it’s quieter but just that it distorts earlier in its gain staging. A high headroom amp like this just means that it can be completely clean at louder volumes than a lower watt amp.
And with the master volume you can turn it down and get mega sounds from cranking the clean and dirty channels. I've been saving up for one of these for quite a while. This is possibly the most versatile amp in existence without being some kinda digital thing like a Line 6 or Helix.
18:43 thank you for not doctoring the amp at this point ! This is how its sounds, and that's accurate for anyone out there, cause other guys and there video's made this sound way better than i believe ! This is how its sounds, i don't like it ,have tried every pedal i have with it and made it sound a little bit better ? but i got way better results with the clean channel and my distortion pedals than the dirty so thank you again very accurate sound on the dirty channel .One more thing ! if you have a tube amp don't replace it thinking you just fixed things with solid state you would be making a huge mistake !
Would be cool if that DI out was actually a headphone out instead. Just saying .. but I don't know anything about the design technicalities there .. but that's a major choosing factor for me between this and the Quilter TB202
Some transistor amps through history have sounded great, really great. It's the feel that makes the difference between them and tube amps. I've yet to play one that feels right and that includes modellers but I'd like to try this amp.
Agreed. VH140C, SS150, RG100ES, RG80ES, Century, Beta Lead.
@@therifflair724Randall Cyclone and Warhead X2 deserve a honourable mention.
Wish they would make a mini of these a little bigger than the pedal baby, as that's the power section. I suppose tying in a tube pre would cannibalize their full tube amps somewhat, but that'd be neat.
Is this any good for bedroom volumes?
Have you tried the PJD Carey through the Orange Super Crush, thinking of getting both and would love to know your thoughts?
that could work nicely
@@EytschPi42 thank you the Carey is on the way and I think I may go for the Super Crush. Also got a PRS Core Custom 24 and other guitars which I think it could work really well with. Like the idea of that orange tone but light weight and more affordable. Thanks for your video.
There's something weird with that first recording where more things go on the bass level seems to drop level and be quieter.
Weg vom Thema aber Felix is schon ein geiler Drummer . Hatte ihn schon mit Maschine mal gesehen .
BTW : interessantes Video !
PAUL WAH & I was before the rapper because my favorite guitar pedal is a WAH WAH I wish more guys would be more like you & Tom quale and play the spectrum I have a
Super crush combo & it is definitely different than the head not by much but it is I believe the 150 Watt celestian speaker & for the life of me the more u turn it up the better it sounds I got it because my last tube amp was that the last & I'm very happy I'm a little iffy on the reverb but I can deal with it thanks for your time and help I went through a lot of amps orange of course and it was the super crush or the rockerverb and I was like couldn't believe it is solid state and I'm and will be
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this thing sound killer every review i saw it rules
I'm going to buy a couple of these to use as power amps and backups for my helix and the helix my rhythm guitar player uses. The power section on these is the pedal baby. It makes perfect sense to me. Lol
Sorry wrong, the clean preamp is the pedal baby. The gain is a Rockerverb circuit with jfets in place of the 12AX7s
@Van020280 you're incorrect. I'll wait here while you do your research though. Go ahead, I'll he right here.
Now the question is, have transistor amps always been good and we’ve just grown up from the mentality that tone is in the glowing tube or have they become better over time?
a mixture of both solid State is like noseless pick ups there pretty Souless to be honest
@@akiramiller9025 But that's such a lame statement. BB King played a solid state amp all his life. Did he sound soulless?
@@PelleKuipers True, and Jeff Beck used noiseless pickups and his tone had loads of soul.
@@akiramiller9025 if you're trying to find soul in a bunch of plastic and electricity, you're looking in the wrong place. Soul comes from the musician. You either got it or you don't, doesn't matter how shitty or how good your equipment is.
Yes they have CR120,OLd sunn Solid states and Acoustic control corporation are perfekt examples
19:45 itself makes the video worthy hahaha !
Daaaaaamn DI out. Orange should have associated with Two Notes & put a CabM+ into the amp with the Two Notes Orange pack ! THAT would have KICKED MAJOR ASS. (And raised the price a bit, ok, but...)
Or just made the DI filter bypassable. As-is, it's useless to run it into something like a CAB M. I guess you can go from the Effects Send out, it's a solid state amp so it won't hurt anything. Still, you can't use it alongside a speaker then.
Just seems like having the XLR out without an analog cab sim would have been easy. Or a simple switch to bypass the analog filter.
It's really annoying when big companies go to the effort of including DI outs without a simple switch to turn off cab emulation, which usually sucks, and is often found on lesser amps from smaller companies. Such a silly yet simple oversight. Still a great amp though.
I don't understand. The DI sounds awesome in Dave Simpson's video.
i bought a Super Crush 100w on a lark out of curiosity. . It's was shockingly good for what it is. Don't get me wrong, I'm not getting rid of my JCM800 or Friedman BE for it, but for $500 it's a good time for sure. The magic is mixing the Super Crush with the JCM800. Huge Full Sound.
Static X used Marshall MG's for years. System of a down also know for using Mode 4 Marshall hybrid amps.
Prong and Death used the Marshall Valvestate.
Totally agree, the build-in analog cab sim should be defeatable. Would far prefer an on/off over a closed/open back switch. Can't fault Orange for having a bad analog cab sim built in... every amp that has them are crap. The H&K ampman's built-in is better because of the variety of cabs 8 and the ability to turn off, but still isn't something I'd use in a mix.
I own one and it kicks ass
yo what is that outro song
I have no real use case for the Orange sound, but my Crush Mini (50$) sounds pretty good on a cab. 3W tho, so not exactly stage ready
Oh Wow! The older Orange Amps always had a muddy sound, but this sounds pretty damn awesome and the price is right!!! I'll be checking one out soon... Peace ✌PS Where's this amp made??
Engineered in UK, Made in China.
Yeah this one is a tad brighter.
South Korea
He had me at "switch-a-rooni"
I'm split between this and the hughes and kettner tubemeister 20
Wish it had a presence control.
EQ pedal can fix that tho.
Who was the singer on the song.
Want!
Would this be too much amp for the house? Im wanting a setuo i can jam at home AND gig with. Im not worried about neighbors...but i am worried about the wife enjoying it and not too loud for her.
You can always turn it down and retain the tone... unlike tube amps..
Since it's a transistor amp, does it means that it's useable at bedroom level without an attenuator?
I don't think it will sound great quietly
Actually it sounds great at low volume.👍
Also, I completely agree with you about liking the lack of bass. I LOVE the Orange sound but I've always thought it's just a little too thick/fuzzy, unless you're talking about a Rockerverb but that's no where near my budget lol, the SC100 is the absolute best Orange I've heard outside of the Rockerverb and is why I pulled the trigger on the combo.
Thats actually my ONLY thing i SLIGHTLY dislike about this amp, I'm a big fan of massive blown out molasses thick type tones. It can sorta be fixed by adding an EQ pedal with the lows boosted like crazy but not a whole lot.
Imma buy this instead of the rockerverb I have on layaway and a guitar instead of a $2000+ tube amp that can tons of issues
Henning I would love to see a demo of yours bout the strymon nightsky. This is a very unique verb and it reminds me off a fafisa a lot. I thing it would be interesting to see how you do with it and wether you would come up with creative stuff. I know you do very well with experimental stuff, that banger intro of the sy 1000 is still something i come back over and over and also your demo on the c4 was very cool.
Btw i remember your vide about the big strymons in the stereo session. Those textures in the background were amazing. The nightsky expands a lot on character texture verbs and imo is such a creative tool, often overlooked cause it need time to dig in.
Look at what Perry Frank does with it: ruclips.net/video/H6fdQ-KNn2s/видео.html
Final jam (minute 13) plus sound 13 made me buy that pedal and it drives me so often to record some lovely textures.
Keep the cool work up, hau rein und lass dich nicht von den Hatern unterkriegen.
Mir is schon klar, dass ne Demo natürlich nicht einfach so passiert, weil das ja auch viel Arbeit ist. Aber vielleicht kann dich mein Comment inspirieren, dir das Ding mal anzugucken und dich zu inspirieren. Wie gesagt, Perry Franks demo ist so genial und unreal, hat mich echt umgehauen. Er hat auch das Sy1 mit dem Nightsky kombiniert, das sind wirklich geniale Soundscapes!!!! ruclips.net/video/IvBXVZqOohg/видео.html
Grüße aus Österreich!
P.S. bezüglich der Rant wegen Equipment verkauf - Ich war ehrlich gesagt schockiert, dass manche Leute echt auf die Idee kommen, du sollst das Zeug herschenken. Ich denk mir, das sind vielleicht einfach Kids, die unbedingt Zeug wollen und keine Kohle haben, anders kann ich mir das nicht erklären. Ich schau deine Demos schon lange und du reisst dir immer den Arsch auf, ich denk umgerechnet auf den Stundenlohn sind die Pedals auch nicht mal die mega bezahlung. Ich bin damals auf dem Strymon Riverside Video hängen geblieben, bis heute ist der Intro track ein absoluter Banger. einfach mal über 30 Minuten Demo für nen simplen Zerrer...
Hi Henning.
So wait, the xlr out can just be ran into anything?? Damn that's gonna make recording at night a hell of a lot easier lol. I dont even care that it sounds bad lmfao.
"Major 7th #9, you write a song with that, I give you $5"
_Opeth has entered the chat._
Great fucking video!!! No more needs to said.
“you can single coil the shit out of them” i feel that
Purple sparkle, and a liftable orange.
A very good combo.
Holy Sh*t Balls I MUST have this amp but they're all SOLD OUT here Down Under :(
Isn't a #9 the same as a minor 3rd?
yes, but in a major chord… so it doesn’t sound like a minor 3rd… but like a sharp 9… the major third is the stronger sound and the #9 just adds flavor instead of sounding minor
Felix on drums !!!!
Especially when you run over 1000watts from a PA amp. But that just blew speakers. I'm happy with my 50watt tube amp. I once had a JC120 from Roland. I like tubes!
Does it go Tube amp loud?
What does that mean?
I don't think the amp has a cab emulation built in, it much more sounds like the raw amp signal through the DI out. You do have to use an external IR loader with that. Being able to get the raw amp signal makes it quite versatile as you can use it with your own IRs, but they should have included at least one Orange Cab IR and a little switch at the back to turn that on and off.
it CLEARLY says "Open Back" and "Closed Back" on the back panel... the simulation is just so bad that it sounds as if there isn't any.
@@EytschPi42 Holy Moly, that's pretty bad.
Did you see "open/closed” on the back?
These are like the old emulated outputs of the 80's and 90's
I've gone back and forth. If you have good cab and trusty pre amp sound. Honestly I like a cheap pedal sometimes.
Who is the Orange Head 👌🙏
23:03 When in doubt, whip it out
You've spoiled me with your reviews, Henning. Sometimes I wait for them just to get that additional HP seal of approval.
"... can single coil the shit out of them ..." :-)
Amp seems also pretty nice.
I'd like to see it up against a similar priced orange valve like a dual terror
You know, though, Dual Terrors now cost 900 new? Whereas this is 500? So...basically this blows all Orange tube out of the water unless you're a masochistic rich hobbyist lol
@@squashandfries a dual terror cost 530 UK,super crush 430
@@pads-zr9ln lucky bastards lol
@@squashandfries brits get cheaper marshals and orange, Americans get cheaper fenders and messa boogie, europeans get eurovision
i had a dark terror before i got the CR60 combo. the tone and feel was very consistent between the two of them. it breaks up just like i expected my valve orange to. i can only imagine the current version is even closer.
"Transistor guitar amps have a bad reputation" ... Do they? Cheaper/practice amps rarely sound as good as valve amps, but a couple of price points up, there have been high quality, great-sounding tranny amps for decades. I used a British made Sessionette amp for many years. Eric Clapton used one in the 1980s, so I'd say I was in good company. I believe EVH recorded his solo to Michael Jackson's "Beat It" on a tranny amp. Peavey, Roland, etc. etc... Lots of great choice going back many, many years. So, I'd say that the Super Crush 100, judging by the reviews I've seen, joins the pantheon of great solid state amps.
The DI Out is such a deal breaker for me. I have a Katana that I use as a platform and honestly the only thing keeping me from trading it in for a Super Crush is the terrible DI for recording.
Lets hear what the transorange delivers. Btw. still got a Fender from the 80th with those transistors in it. And its good.
I agree this amps is a real bad ass Kudos to Orange they nails it
I only care about the high gain sound. I guess I'll have to try one out because RUclips videos simply don't do justice.
And this video I feel like it sounds very muffled but nobody's talking about it
she seems setting in a cafe but has great voice
LOL Tight like a tiger !!