This PROVES that Tubes are OVERRATED!
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- The Orange Super Crush is a unique amp that delivers a very impressive tone, and it's not based on ancient out of date tube technology! Get it at this Thomann Affiliate LInk: www.thomann.de...
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Amp makers should add a "sparkly", "deep", and "warm" knob to every amp. They should also label every amp for which tonewood they're built for.
I need some tonewood IR plugins for my DAW
They wouldn't even have to be connected to anything and people would still "hear the difference" when they turned them
@@matiosmi137 I swear an amp company actually did this, I wanna say Marshall or VOX maybe? They added a knob, hooked it up to nothing and labeled it like "awesome" or something, so you could turn the awesome knob up. That wasn't the exact idea, but it was something similar I believe.
@Dude McGuybro : what brand? What amp? I want to see that.
And they should be required by law to disclose the year of manufacturing of their chips, so that real experts know whether the amp can actually sound any good or not.
I've always said that there is a place for solid state, but the tube bros would laugh at me. When I used to use an Ampeg VH140C, my band had banners in front of the amps so they couldn't be seen, and every once in a while a tube bro would ask me what amp I'm using when complimenting my tone, and their face when I told them it was solid state was priceless. A shitty amp is a shitty amp, and a good amp is a good amp regardless of whether or not it is tube, solid state, or modeling.
i used an ss140c with 2 4x12's for years...i had no less than 5 different soundmen offer to buy my rig lol
SPEAKERS
To be fair, even great speakers can't fix a shitty amp
There's a reason people still search out the VH140C!
Well said
I'm in a band with a gal who uses a small Orange amp and it keeps up with my 2x12 Marshall JCM800 somehow. Made me happy and sad at the same time.
I like it when a guitar player pulls out his vintage valve amp, slams the front of it with six pedals, then mics it to the PA and says "Gotta love that vintage valve tone, eh?!"
I only use boost pedals with my tube amps. Push the actual amp and a little character to it. Its shame seeing giant pedal boards being used on a tube amp. TS and a ratt is all I use.
Not vintage just tubes in general. They sound better.....I own both bit prefer tube all day!
It's good to have a leftie in these videos to compare. The left hand is definitely a bit more sparkly than the right hand. I might have to learn to play both ways now so I can choose the hand sounds that's best for each situation.
Well, that's another level of tones 😂
Peter K. Rosenthal? Shouldn't you be reviewing movies for The Onion?
this is why i played lefty tbh
That sounds like those fools at the thegearpage would say.
When we were industrial noise punks we switched hands and it was like
"wow ! its just like before I could play the thing - KEWL!!!" ;)
I think the stigma against solid state amps comes from the fact that for a while all the beginner level practice amps were solid state with really shitty distortion, but when you think about it, distortion pedals are "solid state" distortion, so it's not any different from using a pedal.
This is exactly it. Solid state amps have come a LONG way. Solid state are getting their own sound. I love a good cranked tube amp but SS are sounding better than ever.
agreed. 2nd is over reliance of op amps for clean channel. the clean channel op amp have no clipping diodes in feed back loop. this means they hard clip when overdriven. In terms of cost this could be easily fix by using jfet for clean channel. only amp that does clean right with op amps is peavy transtube. most amp are still design like it early 1970s when jfet where more expensive and not well known.
Guitar players have double standards. They hate solid state amps because they don't like the distortion, but they also buy heavy distortion pedals, which are solid state.
There seems to be this thinking of “using a solid state pedal makes the amp solid state”, and thats not exactly whats going on. Tube guys like using overdrives because it makes the guitar hit the amp harder to drive the tubes even more. So no, its not making it solid state, its giving you MORE of what TUBES sound like. I have a $2000 friedman and a $70 marshal SS amp and I love them both, im not a boomer tube elitist or a tube hater, I just want to be knowledgable. @godzilla964
A huge part of a tube _preamp_ circuit is SS as well. That's all a pedal is; they're basically preamps.
But the output compression and feel of a tube amp is totally different than SS due to the necessity of much more powerful transformers required for tube power sections. SS amps have a very immediate response - no sag - in most every example. It's more of a feeling than a sound.
If you want that saggy compression you can *feel* in the strings, there are _very few_ SS amps that can deliver that tactile experience. The Super Crush is great sounding, and it basically stops there because it doesnt have the massive voltage swing necessary to create that sag.
I'm a huge SS amp lover, but facts are facts.
Loved doing this vid with ya Glenn! 🤘🏾
Impressive skills holding the guitar while we get our faces melted with incredible riffs. Well done Glenn!
My favourite amp that I use now is a Quilter Superblock US. It's absolutely tiny, which is great for portability, it has a direct line out for recording, it has a cab sim, it has an attenuator system, and it does 3 very good Fender amp style sounds. It sounds absolutely amazing.
I love mine as well; it sounds great, takes up no room, can run on a 1-spot for lower wattage, and I just have one or two pedals in front - it's literally all I'll ever need.
I just ordered my daughter who lives out of state the combo version of this for Christmas.
She currently has been learning on one of those really tiny line 6 amps. This video helps reassure me that I made a good choice.
That amp does sounds fucking wicked. I really hope Orange and others keep pushing the edge tone-wise, as Glenn makes a good point. We don't need any more 5150's, Plexis, Dual-recs, etc. All that shit has been done to death. We need more interesting sounding amps!
Players take the lead, them we need more of.
I actually have the predecessor to this amp, the Crush Pro 120. It's essentially the same thing as the Super Crush, although personally I like the Super Crush a bit more. Anyway- Several people have come to me after sets asking me about the amp, what model is it, what kinda tubes do I have, etc. I always love to put on a shit eating grin and tell em it's all solid state. I've also had a handful of sound guys set up my amp on stage and accidentally switch between channels because they think the channel selector is a standby switch. Fantastic amps all around.
For the doomheads out there the Crush Pro is typically a lot more sought after due to the thicker and sludgier sound you get when you really crank it. Too bad Orange only made such a short run of them and replaced them with the Super Crush, they're already becoming hard to obtain 😄
I've played both amps back to back and, while I think that both sound awesome, the super crush felt better to play to me. It has more of that sag or compression that make tube amps more appealing to me. Love the super crush!
I never liked the gain from the original crush. This new one is killer
The super crush is a bit unhinged I love it. The crush pro is definitely not as fun.
I knew this already simply because the Roland Jazz Chorus has been a legendary clean amp for decades, even being used by Metallica on occasion and of course Dimebag predominantly used solid state Randalls throughout his career.
A lot of death metal bands used solid state peaveys, and those rockman headphone amps were on professional recordings back in the 80s.
And Brian may.
Dimebags tone sounded like a bag of shrill angry bees though
@@zs8784 he could’ve gotten his same sound if not better if he used a 5150. Im firmly convinced he either never tried it or no one showed him how to actually get good high gain tones from it
@@applesauceblues6952 Angry bees are the keys
I'd love to have one of these. I know everyone says tube amps are the way to go, but not replacing tubes is a huge bonus for me.
It's not so much that they're overrated, it's that there's lots of good tube amps, and only a few good solid states.
I’ve been waiting for this amp on this channel for ages! I bought one a while ago because I couldn’t wait any longer hahaha. But yeah, love it. You have to boost it with a Tubescreamer or something just to tighten it up a little but it’s great!
Hearing this demo, it sounds great. Really seems like all I needs is the lower end tightened up slightly, if you are going for that sort of tone. Overdrive would be perfect for that, other wise if you are playing more sludgy type metal, it sounds good as is for that.
FYI - The Orange Super Crush 100 Head is $500 in the USA - I just checked Sweetwater for you. Available in orange or black box colors. Looks like Zzounds and Chicago Music Exchange as well...
I am big fan of orange amps and I own the orange crush CR120 head with 2x12 cab the orange crush CR120 2x12 combo and the orange crush CR60 combo and I love them all. I own a few tube amps as well but I am always playing out of my orange amps as they are my main gigging and recording amps I use. I pretty much keep the tube amps around in the studio for someone else to play if they are a tube person. For me my orange amps are were it is at and they will be my go to amps for the foreseeable future. Glad to see you review this amp Glenn.
The Revstar with the Orange is a rig I'd have given my right eye for when I first started playing. Kids today are lucky.
I got a Super Crush 100 back in February just because of the internet buzz on it, and it is 100% the only piece of gear that has lived up to the hype for me. Absolutely love that beast of an amp.
I almost went for the crush, but ended up going for the Invective because of all the functionality.
@@felinekaiju4517 how are you finding the invective?
@@gazzaduce3424 I'm loving it, it's also a great pedal platform on the clean channel. It's so versatile, and with 9 midi programmable channel pre-set slots, it's essentially a 12 channel amp. I know a lot of people don't lile the noise gate, but I don't have a problem with it, and I only use the OD on the clean channel to push it into EOB. There's so much functionality in this amp, it's insane. I've not used the MSDI out, nor the parralell speaker outputs.
We have the crush pro100 here at the studio and it's criminally underrated. These are such solid amps for those who don't care about having to own a tube amp.
@Bloom Tik Bloom Meh, we record tube amps all the time for clients with heavy projects so that's actually what we would consider "ordinary" (5150, dual recs, Rockverbs etc). We actually shot this (crush pro) out against a rockverb before our session with stoner metal band Sonolith and it 100% holds it's own, just in a different way. The Rockverb couldn't tighten up on the low end as much as the crush and the crush didn't have the transient response of the Rockverb. So from where I'm sitting and my hands on experience, they're both just two different paintbrushes that an artist could use to sonically paint with. You can buy a Mercedes which is ranked last in consumer reports and spend twice as much as a Toyota which is ranked first in consumer reports, so I don't think the old chestnut "you get what you pay for" is really applicable as much these days. Just like most Mercedes owners won't admit there are other awesome options for cars that are cheaper, because the status of the car is what they are really paying for, most tube amp aficionado's will refuse to hear great tones from anything other than the holy valve because of the status associated with it.
@Bloom Tik Bloom terms like lofi and hifi are in reference to fidelity of a recorded sound being reproduced by 70's equipment (op amp powered receivers), not the initial sounds being produced by a heavily distorted guitar head (which is low fidelity by nature of the insane T.H.D. induced by the gain staging) as we are discussing here. Again they are different sounds, neither better than the other in all cases while each being better than the other in some cases.
I'm learning alot here and I drive a Jeep.
@Bloom Tik BloomAgain, we are talking hi gain distorted amps where a clear signal is being greatly distorted. The term as you are using it doesn't apply to this subject. I can't argue with your opinion about what difference you perceive in clarity, for all I know you have hearing loss that causes you to hear differently than me. I will say the "solid state is trash" fallacy being espoused here is easily disputed by the fact the the majority of the best preamps in the world used to record the best classic tones were all solid state. Neve, API and Solid State Logic (it's in the name lol) were responsible for amazing tones with their fat, transformer based saturation (just like a solid state amp). Back to my original point, the Orange solid state amps are killer if you aren't emotionally invested into thinking a tube is some sort of magic tone device. So no, it's not more Hifi to use a tube amp design from decades ago vs a modern design. Technically speaking it's the opposite. As far as solid state amps being a thing of the past because of digital modeling, the fact that the modeling then will go on to a class d solid state power amp 10 times out of ten times in a live scenario, greatly disputes your assumption my good tone dude! Cheers!
@@topfloorstudio2684 jeeps are definitely more lo-fi than h-fi!
Ty Tabor used solid state in the 80s to produce his unique mid tone. He now uses the Super Crush.
A well designed SS amp sounds great. They became the whipping boy of the vintage snobs in the late 80s and were turned into the cheap alternative for the broke 16 yr old. There's some fine stuff that ZT and Henriksen make for jazzy clean play but the Super Crush has a much better gainy tone. 🤘🏼
Ty Tabor of King’s X used Gibson Lab series amps for years, so rock players who are familiar with him know a great solid state circuit sounds excellent. Ty started using the solid state Orange amps several years ago, so it’s no surprise how nice they perform.
Thank you Glenn for making this video! I have this amp and absolutely love it!!! One reason I bought it is because it is SOLID STATE. I hate fuckin with tubes and I love pissin off tone snobs much like yourself 😂 please don’t ever stop!
Dude's a human delay pedal! Incredible phrasing all-round, too.
Have Rick on more often.
Amp built for working musicians and simplicity in a studio... I can appreciate that! Amp is not a heirloom or trinket, it's a TOOL.
Ive been a proud owner of a super crush 100 for 7 months now, switched to it from a Randall 1503212RG and I couldn't be happier, the Randall was an amazing amp but the orange just builds the distortion different. I don't know how else to explain it but I highly recommend the amp to anyone looking for a great solid state amp.
I have a Crate GX-40C that I found used for $50 and I LOVE IT. The lead channel is unreal. It sounds WAY BETTER THAN IT SHOULD for a 2x8 practice combo. Have you ever tried 8" speakers before? They have a certain bark that is very unique to them. When they're mic'd up they have a surprisingly usable amount of low end that you may not hear in the room. Crank them up and they HONK LIKE NO OTHER! Great as a blender for distorted tones and clean tones shine and crack right through the mix. I think they are definitely worth a shot if you're searching for tones that nobody has heard before.
I love low energy Glenn lol
One of my favorite amps I’ve ever owned was my Fender Ultimate Chorus from the ‘90s. The high gain sound was so damn cool because it was so aggressive and nasty, kind of like this Orange.
It is a unique tone that cuts through a dense mix with no problem being heard
I think I had a similar Rack version and blew it the first day
i had that Amp in college.. LOVED IT.
@@OpportunityInLife no pedals
Just plug in and play
I'm still a sucker for the stereo chorus!
Loved that amp. Played it for many years in a country/rock band. Used the AMP for the clean and distorted sounds. Outboard pedals were not anything that were tone changing or gain adding units. Just a classic, under rated amp that can be had for a song now days and they have a proven record of lasting such a long time.
I like it. Been thinking of adding a solid state to my arsenal. I still think I’m gonna get a Randall RG series. But this Orange is def on my watch list. 🍊 🔈
But surely it matters that you have vintage solid state components. You need to do a test comparing transistors op amps and diodes 😉
blaaaah
Inserts the demo where behringer tube screamer is side by side compared to a OG ceramics component tube screamer and is sonically identical
This channel cannot have enough Mendel. Awesome player, cool dude.
All the old Floridian Death Metal bands used solid state. Those old Crate Excalibur's have some of the tightest distortion ever. Tubes and transistors can sound amazing. Jim Lill kinda proved that tone is all in the preamp not the power section
Cheap and abundant had nothing to do with it, right?
I believe they were all using the Valvestate amps Morrisound studios had
I still have one of those Crate half stacks in my garage from the early 2000s! It was all i could afford at the time, but i got some cool sound out of it with the help of a graphic EQ.
Can you please not misrepresent information like that, in no way did Jim Lill prove what you said, what he proved is that solid state, tube preamp, and tube power amp distortion sound really really similar when entirely isolated.
To hear a guitar amp REQUIRES that a guitar, amp, speaker, and mic (or simulation of some or all of the above, unless you're in the room then you can skip the mic) all be in the signal chain together, and every single one of those is absolutely loaded with variables (EQ signature shows up like 6 times among each of those), you cannot simply isolate "tone" into a specific subsection of a circuit of an amplifier.
@@nelke3891 This.
It helps that the Revstar is a KILLER guitar! Some of the best sounds I've ever got in a guitar... Great construction, amazing neck, incredible pickups!
The best guitar tone I ever heard was on Iron Maiden's Seventh Son of a Seventh Son, using Gallien-Krueger 250ML solid-state lunchbox combos, and on the Seventh Tour of a Seventh Tour, using Gallien-Krueger 2000CPL rack units, again all solid state. Those units especially had everything one could want in an amp: an effects loop, a recording out, a 4-band EQ section with separate, foot-switchable channels, and built-in compression, delay, and chorus. In addition to having the potential to sound really good, solid state is much cheaper to manufacture, and uses far less energy than tube amps to run, with a significantly lower carbon footprint.
You remind me, I'vealways wanted to know Greta Thunberg's favorite amp.
Absolutely brilliant guitar sound on that record. My favorite probably still is Powerslave, though.
There is actually a guitar pedal called "Seventh Son", which is modelled after the GK preamp section. I forgot the name of the manufacturer, but you can find it easily enough.
@@mrcoatsworth429 My favorite old-school guitar tone is on Piece of Mind. Powerslave is very similar-basically, a continuation of that sound, but a little more compact.
I had no idea there was a Seventh Son 250ML-in-a-box type of pedal. I just checked out the demo by the manufacturer. To my ear, it is, unofortunately, missing the midrange thickness and the tight bottom end the GK amps had. Plus, let's not forget about the importance of that beautiful compression that the GK amps had, which made each note sound fluid and even, without the need for much gain. So, you get the best of both worlds: low gain tone with high gain sustain.
@@mickeythompson9537 How DARE yhooo?
@@metalinsights9664 I'm tempted to buy the pedal, just because it's cheaper and more convenient than an actual vintage GK.
Personally, I found the demos to be less than ideal. So I won't judge the pedal just yet. Not until I've heard it for myself. And there are two versions of the pedal. So maybe it's the less "accurate" version that you listened to. Anyways, I don't know how it is, but it might be interesting!
This sounds great, especially at that price point.
I'd be really interested in some kind if shoot-out with maybe a few tube amps vs a few good solid states and see if people can tell the difference between them all in a mix.
I'm actually using an Orange crush 60 watt combo for all of my tones and it's delivering the goods pretty damn well. And I absolutely love pissing off tone snobs and tube purists with this amp simply because their reactions are priceless when I tell them it's solid state and not powered by vacuum tubes😂 one of them even looked for tubes on the back of the amp simply because he didn't want to believe me that it's not powered by tubes at all😂😂😂
I own one of these amps and it's honestly a super affordable all round good amp. I also run a clean boost in the front and a 10 band EQ in the back, this really is key to unlocking some really great sounds in this amp.
Yeah man I do the same thing. I'll also throw a compressor and a sonic stomp in the FX loop too. Solid states seem to respond better to tinkering that way.
I think Glenn was the hung over guy in this video. Weren't you. Even more snappy than usual 😂
I run a Boss GE-7 thru the effects loop on mine, it reeeally cuts the fizz and opens that lil monster right up. Happy!
The tubes vs solid state debate has been going on for decades. Modelling amps are now part of the debate, but it's essentially the same dead horse. Play whatever you like the sound of. If it sounds good, it is good.
I have a H&K tube amp and a Orange Crush Pro 60c. They are both amazing and the orange punches way above and beyond what you would think. Good stuff.
You sould make a video explaining all those adjectives that mean nothing when describing a guitar tone. I think it would help us non-producers to speak more clearly to a producer. GREAT VIDEO GLENN
GLEEEEEEN! Hey dude, hope you're well. I would find it really helpful if you did a video explaining the signal chain and what actually affects the different parts of the overall sound, from the strings, to the pick ups, to the head and to the speaker ect?
All the best buddy!
I've got a tube pre amp in my pedal board that can be mixed in - really only sounds different in real life when playing clean. By the time it is in a mix in a live setting it wouldn't matter.
Crate GX-130C, which was supposedly a clone of the Ampeg VH-140C. I had the 2x12 combo back in the 90s and bought a head version years ago for like $100. Best $100 I ever spent. Killer drive sound and stereo chorus.
"Supposedly", but not really. Their schematics have many similarities, but Ampeg has a completely different tonestack and overall voicing (for example, the controls are placed at different frequencies, Crate has a boost-only low control and much more lower mids), some clipping stages are different, but it should be relatively easy to convert one into another. BTW, I have a Crate XLP, it's a rack version of the G130CXL/GX130C (same amp, just restyled), pretty cool, but I like the sound of Ampegs better.
I wouldn't say it "proves tubes are overrated", but I WOULD say it proves ORANGE makes BADASS AMPS!
This amp Rips through the speakers, awesome Tone it works for bands like Down and I think for a Live Set-up can't beat the cheap price I was surprised by the Lead Guitar Tones.. I like it for the Grindcore-Doom like sounds
I know people have been bitchin' about your screaming at the start, but please bring it back. lol It always brings a smile to my face.
Just got the “1x12 Super Crunch 100 Combo” and it far exceeded my expectations. In fact it’s the best amplifier I’ve ever played through, better than every tube/valve amp live ever played. The Orange Rockerverb was my favourite amp, but I actually like this better. Yes, that’s a shocking statement but it’s just how I feel.
Orange really outdone themselves with this amp. Add a pedal (With depth and presence controls) in the fx loop and you get all the lows and highs of the Rockerverb, the also add a compressor if you want that tube sag tone. Low maintenance, awesome price.
Love this amp 🎸🥊
Some other great solid state amps are late 80s/early 90s Laney both heads and combos, pre valvastate Marshalls from the 80s, Fender Studio Lead and the 1st Fender Stage Lead. The 80s Randalls were pretty cool also.
Check out the new Hiwatt solid states. They’re amazing!
For me, I want an amp that's versatile. This video showed me an amp that can do perfect cleans and super high gain sounds.
Neither of those things interest me.
I like my clean sound to have just a little dirt, and my overdriven sound to be... well, not that. Take an old Fender or a Vox, crank the volume to about 7, and you're in the ballpark.
I don't have anything against well-made solid state amps. I had a Fender Frontman 212R for years that, with the right overdrive pedal, was pretty good. There's just something about the sound of tubes that solid state can't replicate.
you can get these at guitar center in the us
My favorite guitarist has used this head as his main touring amp for a few years now and he sounds great. I bought one and sounded like crap. Must be the gear! 😁
Would that be Ty Tabor?
@@ruination775 Yep!
Tubes are great, Glenn! Don't you know that the internet is a series of tubes?!
I bought one 3 years ago and have gigged with it ever since. It has PLENTY of gain and it loves pedals. I have it paired with a Hughes Kettner 2/12 cabinet with vintage 30’s and it absolutely sounds great cranked. I have no complaints with this head and for $500 bucks new it is well worth the price, especially if you don’t have $2000-$3000 bucks for a tube head. If you have not tried one, you need too!!!
I always thought about Orange Amps. A few artists use them recording and live. And thinking outside the box by going away from the high mainstream ones. Like Marshall, Yamaha, etc.
Orange amps do have an actually unique tone. there's a upper midrange hump in them that is pretty unmistakable.
I mean, tubes are hardly overrated. It'a not just about the unduplicatable tone, it's also about the way a tube amp reacts to your pick attack, the way you can add compression to individual notes. The current SS stuff is great, but nothing will ever sound or play like a tube amp!
For anyone here thinking about buying one of these. We’ve had one of these going through my circle of friends. Consensus is pretty much, it definitely lives to the hype. We all think the distortion on it sucks (especially for metal/extreme metal) but it is about the best pedal platform out there. It moves air like tubes dude, but it’s kind of it’s own thing. Closest thing I could think to compare it to are Sunn Beta Leads and other vintage solid states. But with a lot more clarity and less noise. Over all killer amp! Wish I had room for one!
I'd love to see more videos on tubes vs solid state heads
I bought a Dime D100 in 2012 after I had to send my JCM2000 back to Marshall for its 4th repair job and, well, when the Marshall came back I don’t think it ever saw a stage again.
I bought a CR120 a few years later and it has accumulated quite the resume- it has seen dirt, blood, beer, and concrete, has back-lined the rowdiest of backyard grindcore, death metal, and hardcore shows, and has been on 3 different records. It’s never seen a repair-person and it is still being put through the wringer every week.
I’ve recommended the Crush series to so many people, and shit if you come out to a metal or punk show here in the Inland Empire you’re probably going to see one. Its a fucking beast of an amp and I love it so much. I saw 200 Stab Wounds a week or two ago and guess what head they were using?
After a dozen of amp sims, modelers, tube amps I figured out that I wanted a sturdy, dependeable simple amp that sounds good. The Orange Crush 60C is an absolute beast and I love it
Yes! Glenn needs to have more Chick'n Pickers on his show! 😆😅🤣😂🙂🙃
I have the combo, and it sounds like a RockerVerb II. I bought it thinking it was going to be super-light. I was wrong. It's a fantastic amp.
With my workplace being rehearsal rooms for bands, the amps get a LOT more hours put through them than your personal rig would.
We have a bunch of tube amps, and I hate all of them. They are heavy (omg jmc900 combos can fuck off), a bitch to repair and these days offer no extra tone than a solid state amp.
There is one amp that we have never had an issue with (and is the one I recommended we get) and it's an orange CR120, the thing is a tank and sounds awesome. It's also nice and light compared to tube amps.
It's gotta be a placebo, so many customers say that tubes are so sweet and warm and all of the other bullshit things. But I'm able to play laneys, marshalls, bugeras and Engls. I still keep coming back to the CR120. (They're only £250 used!)
Cheers Glenn!
I was having a hard time deciding if should buy this amp or not to play metal. Done. Well showed and played. Gonna but that this week
How’s the amp working out for you?
The crush stuff is pretty good and very affordable. I have the 60w combo. I wish there was a version of my combo that didn’t have the clean channel, effects loop and reverb to cut weight and price.
I've only known about this amp for a few days and after watching several reviews I'm convinced it was made for me.
Finally! I've been waiting on this video. 😁 Thanks Glenn!
It’s so warm with that fret board!!
We have the old 150w Orange PA, with the two 5ft cabs at my moms somewhere.
It used to get that hot it would crack tubes in a cold breeze.
But a new transformer and it was a workhorse, a stereo pedal at the end of the guitar fx chain and it was a signature sound.
We got it in the industrial estate the original oranges and Marshall’s were built (full disclosure the guy who told me that also tried selling us crack so...)and another head and cab called a Lenard.
I played this a while back. I love how it’s tight and sludgey at the same time.
Wow Glen you sure have a gift with finding good musicians! Give these guys more credit ffs like display their names on screen! That said, Great vid as always 🤘❤️
The combo version of this head is killer. Weighs half of any tube amp and f@cking sings!
Mendel is amazing! A crossover I didn't expect at all!
Great playing @Mendelian !
I freaking love the Super Crush. Orange does solid state really right
FINALLY SOME ORANGE!!! I run a wall of Orange and used to have a Cr120 briefly before getting the Rockerverb MKII, Dark Terror, Micro Dark, and a SS Bass Crush 100 1x15 combo I run as well. The 15 adds a different tone and while there is more Sizzle on the Crush, mixed in with tube it all sounds amazing, especially with all my SS gain hitting the front of each amp too
been singing the praises of the yamaha thr amps for years most people on the internet seem like they're recording direct into the interface and doing all the eq, reverb, and IRs in the daw because it makes the most sense if you don't already have a sparkly tube amp, mic, and a room to turn up and record in, the gain structures sound pretty good i'm sure you could dial in any gradient of crunch on there, seems like a perfect pedal platform would work great with a matching 2x12.
Now if only Marshall would give their sound the Super Crush treatment and release a modern great sounding solid state line...
Most solid state analog amps sounds just as good or better at lower volume but tube amps just have a certain sound when really pushed
I’ve been playing electric guitar in bands over 50 years. Back in the day, tubes ruled but solid state and digital technology has come a long, long way since then!
Ty Tabor of King's X used a Lab Series amp (cheap solid state amp) on "Out of the Silent Planet" and many marveled at how great Ty's tone was. The Marshall 8100 Valvestate sounded very good. Tommy Victor of the band Prong as well as Chuck Shuldiner (RIP) of the Band Death, for example, played these amps. Their only downside was the cheap pots that were used.
Ty has been playing orange crush for like 10 years now
The L5 is my go to solid state. If it's good enough for Ty and BB King it's good enough for ANYONE.
@@davedecker1725 He played a triple rec prior to that. The point is, one can use a solid state powered amp with a good cab/speakers and acheive good tone.
@@crazeyjoe oh yeah for Dogman
He pretty much switched it up for every record after that
And he STILL SOUNDS LIKE TY!
@@davedecker1725 That he does!
The Crush pro 60 made me put my 59 Bassman back in the touring case.
so Glenn, what you're saying is I SHOULD buy a line6 spider 😋
„ a whole fucking bunch of knobs and shit“
Yes I already love this review 😂
Solid state has always been good and an equal alternative to tube amps if you don’t want the extra distortion, but I feel that SS amps have such a history of primitive, ill-suited or just bad speaker combinations. All those old peavey bass amps have an amazing grind to them but you have to pair them with a modern cab with good speakers and design!
So many amps would shoot up in popularity if they just replaced the speaker
It's great to see companies still doing the big wattage, analog solid state thing like they used to do in the late 70s early 80s. And NOT stick it in an open back combo with a dollar store speaker. Beta Leads and VH-140s are becoming unobtanium these days.
I firmly believe this Orange amp sounds so good only because of the orange tone paint they're using.
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As an owner of this amp I can say its excellent value for money, and with a few pedals really versatile. I run either a clean boost with bass/treble control, a tube screamer or boss sd1 and achieve a wide variety of tones.
Great Demo!!
Amp makers can absolutely design good sounding solid state amps if they want. But since tubes/valves is so hammered into the heads of musicians they make what sells. There is some good sounding ss-amps out there that are great, but letting persons that thinks tubes is the only way testing those amps are a waste. People actually complimented my guitar sound and changed their mind when I told them its not tubes. (Rocktron Piranha and Rocktron Velocity 300. Piranha actually has tubes in preamp, but I dont think they make any difference)
"You don't need good stuff because you suck" - Glenn. Plugs into SLO "Listen to my terrible playing" - Also Glenn
I have a Sovtech MIG 100 with 4 x 10 90's Jenson speakers. I have a AC30 with 2 x 12 green backs. And a Carvin 2 x 12 speaker open back. But what I'm using live is a new Orange Crush 20. Which I believe has a 8 inch voice of the world speaker. I plug my pedal board straight into the crush with a a 57 mic going to the PA. And it works amazing. It is has a great clean tone and I use the distortion from my board. That being said it is around 100 lbs lighter and is plenty loud for stage volume for small clubs. I love that little thing!
solid state gives a much more consistent saturation, which tube snobs doesn't like because the supposed "doesn't response very well with the playing", "it's too brittle and harsh" or whatever the frick is it.
Anyway yet again proves that the speaker, cab, and mic + placement combinations are the most important part of a guitar tone.
I've only ever owned solid state amps, mainly because tube amps were too expensive and i always liked spending my money on new guitars rather than expensive amps. I don't know, I think ive always gotten some pretty good tones out of my solid state amps. Nobody has ever told me id sound better on a tube amp, so I just never really worried too much about it.
Nice to see a fellow lefty tearing it up!
The Orange amp sounds pretty good, I could burn some time on that one. I like tube amps but Ive run into some bad ones. I think there's a lack of players who have tried newer solid state amps and still have the bad ones from 20-30 years ago on their minds.
What overdrive are yall using this sounds amazing. Can’t get mine to sound the same even with the same settings
What a coincidence. I was just thinking earlier today that it could be interesting to have a Solid-State vs Tube Amp shoot-out, and then this video showed up in my feed. Are you a mind reader, Glenn? I know there aren't any tube amps in this video, but there's been plenty on the channel in the past to compare this amp to.