I used to record guitar with a condenser mic, or an sm57. I tried a shitty vocal mic, an EV C09. Its all mids, no low or top end. Sounds way better on guitar than vocals. Mite be my new go to.🤔🍻
Great comment! If people actually listened to some of the great metal tones, there is basically just mid and they'd sound honky on their own. eg. Slayer.
It’s even worse live. That wub wub wub scooped mids sound, completely disappears in the mix live. I set the eq mid heavy when playing live, and the other guitar player can’t hear himself at all. He plays with a low end heavy sound, and won’t listen to me when I tell him to turn the bass down. He thinks bedroom tone will sound the same live.
@@apacheworrier3776 Yeah, the singer and rhythm guitar player of my previous band was like that. Always complaining about not hearing his guitars in rehearsal yet dialing in way too much lows in isolation. And refusing to listen when I tell him that bedroom tone translates differently to live or recording.
@@apacheworrier3776 turning my bass down to 0 and my mids and highs at 6-7 let the bassist to his thing while having a tighter sound overall, especially on the chugs
@@apacheworrier3776 I remember going to a festival with country music. It sounded like dubstep was going on. Woooooooomm. Woooooom. No. That doesn't go with country. I like certain country music, I didn't mind it in the background, but country dubstep should not exist
I don't play metal yet still find so much value in your channel, Glenn. Country is in a pretty awful place, generally, but there's hope. Mindsets like yours making the jump would be a huge catalyst.
I would agree that country is in a pretty terrible place. It's completely vapid nonsense. Easily digestible by the simple minded masses. Give me story. Give me grit.
@@JoeStuffzAltYeah, country music has a whole lot closer connection to heavy metal than all synth based pop music of today. I just like the sound of strings and microphones whether it's country or rock.
I really enjoy these "homemade" videos. Gear reviews are nice, but I think these educational videos with practical guidance are a nice change of pace. Thanks, Glenn.
it's infectious to see how much enjoyment you get our of your passion. You really know what you are talking about. there isn't a a single video of yours in which i don't learn something. Keep going, always!
Definitely for me, taking a break makes all the difference. Songs I’ve written and hammered through recording without taking those little breaks aren’t my best work. Many people disagree with the break theory because they’re stubborn. Thanx glen
The drum and bass context was such a great point. I’ve been using that as reference when I’ve been mixing metal for my side project recently (especially because I’ve been using my 8 string) and it’s been such a night and day difference on my mixes. Great stuff as always
I'm glad I had such a focus on home audio setups before I started playing guitar. I already knew the science of acoustics, and how to build speaker systems guided by Thiele/Small parameters. Helped me avoid some of these early hiccups guitar players run into when they start recording.
Hey Glen, I've seen a lot of your videos, and gotta say, LOVE the "I did it wrong until I got it right" approach to this. I'm weary of the know-it-all guys and this is fresh, and more importantly an approach that will work for us clowns struggling in our home studios
Great stuff, thank you so much. I have to agree with you about the E906 as well: if, like me, any of you thought, "I bought an SM57 because that's what everyone uses, but I don't like it!" it's worth a try. It's really convenient shape for mic'ing up in cramped spaces, too!
i use helix native now... as well as Bias FX. both allow mic movement. Helix Native gives great results with mic movement and changing... 100% agree on mic movement!!!!
I like moving the mic a little bit outside of the tweeter but turning it a 45 degree angle perpendicular to the concave of the speaker and it gets a great tone
The simplest way I've tracked guitar through my L6 helix is starting with bass a little lower and treble a little higher than I like. If it's rhythm guitars less mid, and lead guitar more mid. Lastly, dial back that gain knob. You're painting a sonic picture. Bass and gain is the backdrop or the primary color/sound that makes your head bang, but you can't paint with all black.
Amazing video Glen, really appreciate your super clear and concise explanations. Your advice and tips have helped me iron out bad guitarist behaviour, and helped me with my mixing habits incredibly. Thank you so much man!
If you start with guitar first... either call it a guide track to be replaced later or be prepared to reamp. That's my advice to anyone. You don't literally have to track the bass first. But your guide does need to be in time for say... a drummer and bassist to play to. It may give them more energy. In saying that i have worked with drunmers who prefer to track in isolation. Whatever works for getting that performance. But yes absolutely bang on Glen. :).
@@sonicclangabsolutely. i just wanted to point it out because some people take things quite literally rather than taking the lessons from it and applying them properly.
I like videos like this. I demo song ideas for my band here in my garage. Just a simple desktop set up, and like I said, it's just demoing ideas. I'm not recording "Dark Side Of the Moon" in my shitty little garage or anything, but I still want them to sound decent and videos like this where a simple mic placement does wonders is great and informative.
Neve console is cool. You clearly deserve it after all the years you've put in to music production and RUclips. That riff you're mixing is very decent.....
At last somebody that knows and is willing to teach us mere mortals You are indeed a true leader of men My god are you going upset a lot of people with this Shear genius thanks Glenn
Hah, I wanted a robot 57 back in 2000 when I was tracking a big rock album. I asked a bunch of people and we just never got around to it. "but i can move the mic for ya" was the answer every time.
This has been the most useful video that I have ever watch, on the subject of recording heavy guitars. Thank you Glenn for this amazing content. Unfortunately I can't subscribe again, I've been a follower for several years now. Best regards!
So far, so good. I usually get into trouble when making something more "Industrial", meaning take what you have there and put a couple of synths into the mix, preferably low- and midrange sounds... starts sounding overloaded quickly.
LOL yeah Mic placement is VERY important! Anyone who does not realize this is very in-experienced or not very observant. We usually like them pointed right at the middle of the cone about 1ft back. Having a ceiling mic to mix in with it is also nice! As I have stated before this is all not needed if you get a Marshall code and Guitar Rig then use a USB cable to record. You certainly can go to all that extra time and money to buy cables, mics, set all the re-amp stuff up and nice remote mic adjuster BTW.... but why when you can get the same thing but cheaper and easier? Oh, did I mention USB into the DAW also would eliminate having the room set up to record in properly? It also takes out crosstalk issues as well. Great point at mixing in context. This assumes that the drums and bass are mixed well.
As a guitar player i never understood the obsession with a bass heavy tone. its always easier to cut through with a rich, bright, shimmering tone than to try and out-oomph the bass or drums. its easier to balance, it cuts through in a room or in a mix... its a no brainer, especially in a dirty heavy metal situation. keep it tight, keep it bright. we have to stay in our lane!
In all fairness to James and Lars, they admitted that their ears were blown out by being on the 1988 Monsters of Rock tour, so they kept turning the drums and guitars up and the bass down. It just goes to show you how important your ears need to rest before you move to the next step on a record. But yeah, if you listen to a remix of the Justice record with the bass back in, it sounds killer.
Hey Glenn, I just wanted to say thank you. Your channel has changed the way I approach music across the board. I wanted to take the time to bend the knee, kiss the ring and say thank you
While I 100% agree that mixing guitars in the mix gets you so much further much fast with less plugins, I feel like there’s gonna be a few people in the back that might miss the overall point. This is also true for basically every other element in the mix. Just forget the solo button exists for 95% of your mix and things suddenly become much easier. The hard part is convincing yourself to trust and commit to it long enough to actually experience the benefits of ignoring solo.
yes guitar's tone knob (a low pass filter) is such an engage the suck tool. So many times I've mixing (live) & the guitars are stomping on the kick & bass and with the low pass dialled so low there's nothing to work with to move the guitars to sit in the mix. Ladies and Gents the tone knob isn't just a make is sound cool control - in a mix it's a control where you need to consider the composition.
Top notch video Glenn. Just shows what sounds good in the room may sound bad in the mix. Also, trust a good bass player to take care of the low end to make you sound good! Can I ask, did you have to tweek the bass sound after you were happy with the guitar mix? Last thing, it's glorious to see you enjoy the new desk🙂 if you get any happier you'll lift it off the floor a few inches 😅 Bravo man, bravo.
It wasn’t just James, Lars’ drums also didn’t mix well with the bass. The mixer did get it working right though, but Lars supposedly told him to turn it down until you could barely hear the bass and then another few dB. The mixer looked at Jason who just shrugged
I used the eq.on the mixer. And put myself at the 10 and 2 position in the phones. On a ada zoom 2000.awesome box.oh yeah,with an alesis drum machine,and when i miked,a yes,no bs,a RADIO SHACK condenser mike draped over my laney double preamp 2 12 tube nasty.
Love this! That Dynamount is convenient for finding the sweet spot. Thoughts on moving the mic around the other two dimensions of space? especially closer or farther from the speaker?
I'm learning the vocals side, and I have heard some isolated vocals where I think "what in the hell is going on? This sounds like crap!" I thought it might have been a side-effect of the vocal isolator. In the mix, it sounds great. After learning mixing, I found out all of the things done to vocal in the mix, include sometimes chopping off things like the lower frequencies. It makes more sense to be now
I've often said it before, I went to an Iron Maiden show in 2008 and Within Temptation was one of the opening acts. I was looking at the merch when the guitars were soundchecking. And they sounded godawful. Really horrible to my ear. But then the whole band joined in and I was struck by how well they sounded and fitted into the mix. That opened my eyes (and ears) that you need to dial in you guitar for a mix, not the bedroom.
More like this Glen! How about one where were we side compress kick and bass! Maybe one about parallel compression. How about just the basic housekeeping when you get a raw mix? I always spend a few hours putting things in order, setting up chains, color coding etc. Workflow before being creative am I right? Fuck you Glen!
Would be dope if you did re-amps like Ola does since you have a great amp collection as well, but if you listened to people’s rough mixes like you’re doing in this video.
First I'd heard of that dynamount thing. Made me sad because I had brainstormed up a similar product idea a couple years ago after watching you talk about the importance of mic placement.
Damn, I want a dynamount really bad now. Screw spending that much though, as someone who's built RC cars pretty much my entire life I think i'll build my own
it is similar with reverb, when soloing instrument like guitar with spring or plate, sounds often too metallic/springy/hollow, but in full mix? oh yes!
Glenn you are a fuckin verified, check mark, MENSA front runner of a GENIUS! You just saved a few mixes of mine, moved the mic a hair in the amp sim and fuckin SHABOOIE, it sounds amazeballs now. Thank you bro, great friggen content!
lol, on showing the moving microphone mount the sound of the guitar so thick that any difference in sound due to the mic position wasn't audible once it'd passed through youtube ...
There's something I realised which I think might also be key in mixing metal guitars AND drums: There seems to be a lot of sidechaining from drums to the rhythm guitars, as in the guitars take a heavy beating from everything else from the mix. Kind of makes sense if you consider that in metal the guitars are extremely saturated with gain. It seems to me that, in order to make the guitars suffer from all the sidechaining in metal, you'd have to get ridiculously heavy-handed. You can make your drums stand out on account of the guitars quite a bit before the guitars wave the white flag. What do you think, Glenn? Is there any sense in what I'm saying here?
I know no one cares about Bass but am I the only one who noticed in 1972 on the Can’t Buy a Thrill tour. Walter Becker is playing a Precision Bass with Jazz pickups routed in at the bridge and neck positions and it sound huge !!!!! Check out Reeling in the Years live and experience 70s camera man syndrome.
Angus Young recorded MOST of his tracks thru a small over driven dude amp, like, 25 to 50 watts. The ONLT VARIABLE was where they put the mic... Love your show Glenn Rock on n Fuck off
Could you just put the guitar into a looper and then have it play while adjusting the mic? Also, getting the mix right in a live situation is a challenge for me. Any thoughts on that?
Could you do somethjing lile this but for bass? The usual content is parallel processing and distort the hsit of the highs and compress the shit of the lows but a more comprehensive approach using your plugin would be awesome for us bassbros
so basically the secret to recording heavy guitars is to take all the bottom end out of the guitars because that's the bass's job, is that why live shows can sound kind of muddy sometimes because people don't eq their guitars and leave all that bottom end in as well as the bass?
Hey! I need help: What's best to pair a SM57 for metal guitar? Any thoughts? I really like the OC16. But is it a match? I don't know ;-)! Glenn - help!! Thanks a ton!
Hey Glenn, long time sub and I have a basic ass question for you. When I record tracks on my daw it will just start crackling or sounds start sounding not bright or even worse it crashes when I have multiple tracks playing. (Like 4 tracks) idk if it’s the interface, daw, or what
Any way to get a half decent mix using audacity ?? I don't record enough to pay for a program....I just wanna hear what a finished song sounds like 3rd person.
Hey glen, dont wanna beat a dead horse..... my effects puts out a stereo signal for the effects. I know i need to double track to get that full sound, but should i still pan 1 left and 1 right? Even with a stereo signal with stereo effects? Not in a "real" studio, but just home recording a 1 man show. I just cant seem to get the sound right. You should do a video with just cheap equipment for a 1 man show home studio. I use a usb board so i program drums and can only record 2 channels at a time into mackie traction software with a 24 channel behringer board. Is me not getting a decent mix me or does that equipment suck? Got a spider v 240hc (updated version) head cause you said it wasnt great but decent for personal use. Just so you know the setup.
Most guitar sounds people describe as "iconic" or "great" are usually pretty shite if isolated, the best thing to do is to stand out and bring something new and fitting to the table, or to practise for hours and become unappreciated with a great tone
This also highlights how double tracking with slightly different tones can really fatten things up. The northern mauler is 🤌. Also as far as Justice goes Lars shares the blame as well. He did write a note saying “Turning the bass down” on their original demo tape. So you have guitars and drums taking up the bass frequencies. Leaving not much room for Jason to do his job. And supposedly it was Lars who said during the mixing process “Turn the bass down until you can barely hear it.” and once they got that point he said, “Turn it down another 5db”. This coming from an interview that Steve Thompson did with Ultimate Guitar back 2015.
Glenn, I NEEDED this video. Been having issues with getting a good tone lately so I’ve needed to get this figured out. …you’re also making me want a dynamount. Edit: I keep adding to this. Just wanted to make a request to go along with this: maybe a video on getting the drums and bass to work together.
I follow you since your beginning and this my friend, is your best video ever, hands down. I'm in to music production for some years but this video made my guitar tone sit in the mix easier! I would like to see a drums and/or bass video like this one. F*CK you Glenn (thank you buddy!) Great content!!!
As much as you might not want to hear it… Getting a Mesa boogie amp can help a lot with your recording sound what I mean is they are not designed for your bedroom and they will sound like shit when you play it there. They sound great, however, in a mix. Go figure.
I am curious. You like the Harley Benton cabinets so are you using them at all in any of your professional mixing jobs? If so do the clients question or comment? (Sorry if I missed a video where you said you did use them.)
Glenn, you sound a lot less angry and douchey in your videos now and you are way more enjoyable to watch. Your experience and your message cut through the mix now and it really shows. You still know when to poke fun at your audience and that's awesome.
I used to record guitar with a condenser mic, or an sm57. I tried a shitty vocal mic, an EV C09. Its all mids, no low or top end. Sounds way better on guitar than vocals. Mite be my new go to.🤔🍻
Great comment! If people actually listened to some of the great metal tones, there is basically just mid and they'd sound honky on their own. eg. Slayer.
@@nobrakes3765not sure I'd call Slayer's guitar tone great but hey, to each their own 🤷♂️
@@nobrakes3765Have to agree. Slayer is a great example of it’s more about the song than the tone or mix.
@@intergalacticpimp8683 if the mix was really bad you'd have never heard of Slayer.
@@cyborgchimpy Nah. A great song trumps a great mix, in general.
Because what sounds good on a record isn’t necessarily what sounds good in isolation
Exactly
It’s even worse live. That wub wub wub scooped mids sound, completely disappears in the mix live. I set the eq mid heavy when playing live, and the other guitar player can’t hear himself at all. He plays with a low end heavy sound, and won’t listen to me when I tell him to turn the bass down. He thinks bedroom tone will sound the same live.
@@apacheworrier3776 Yeah, the singer and rhythm guitar player of my previous band was like that. Always complaining about not hearing his guitars in rehearsal yet dialing in way too much lows in isolation. And refusing to listen when I tell him that bedroom tone translates differently to live or recording.
@@apacheworrier3776 turning my bass down to 0 and my mids and highs at 6-7 let the bassist to his thing while having a tighter sound overall, especially on the chugs
@@apacheworrier3776 I remember going to a festival with country music. It sounded like dubstep was going on. Woooooooomm. Woooooom. No. That doesn't go with country.
I like certain country music, I didn't mind it in the background, but country dubstep should not exist
I don't play metal yet still find so much value in your channel, Glenn. Country is in a pretty awful place, generally, but there's hope. Mindsets like yours making the jump would be a huge catalyst.
The nice thing about this video is that it probably would apply to many genres of music that involves guitars.
I would agree that country is in a pretty terrible place. It's completely vapid nonsense. Easily digestible by the simple minded masses. Give me story. Give me grit.
@@JoeStuffzAltYeah, country music has a whole lot closer connection to heavy metal than all synth based pop music of today. I just like the sound of strings and microphones whether it's country or rock.
do you mean "the" country, or country music being in an awful place? both are kinda true, these days.
@@davidkellymitchell4747Sadly what is coming out of Nashville today is basically country pop and not true country.
I really enjoy these "homemade" videos. Gear reviews are nice, but I think these educational videos with practical guidance are a nice change of pace. Thanks, Glenn.
I concur, especially since I could relate to the title. Lots of good stuff here!
This is fitting, regarding one of the comments you made at the start of the video...."Failure Is The Greatest Teacher."
it's infectious to see how much enjoyment you get our of your passion. You really know what you are talking about. there isn't a a single video of yours in which i don't learn something. Keep going, always!
Definitely for me, taking a break makes all the difference. Songs I’ve written and hammered through recording without taking those little breaks aren’t my best work. Many people disagree with the break theory because they’re stubborn. Thanx glen
I feel like I just learned about fire... ...wow. ...mic placement in front of the guitar amp speaker TOTALLY affects the tone. ...Amazing!
The drum and bass context was such a great point. I’ve been using that as reference when I’ve been mixing metal for my side project recently (especially because I’ve been using my 8 string) and it’s been such a night and day difference on my mixes. Great stuff as always
I love all the advice but what REALLY impressed me was the Robotech Cyclone t-shirt!! Anyone else remember that??
I'm glad I had such a focus on home audio setups before I started playing guitar.
I already knew the science of acoustics, and how to build speaker systems guided by Thiele/Small parameters.
Helped me avoid some of these early hiccups guitar players run into when they start recording.
The first tim i saw one of those mic robots was Richard from Rammstein. It's so cool to be able to change the mic position from the control room.
Hey Glen, I've seen a lot of your videos, and gotta say, LOVE the "I did it wrong until I got it right" approach to this. I'm weary of the know-it-all guys and this is fresh, and more importantly an approach that will work for us clowns struggling in our home studios
Love the lead break at 12:55, badass!
Never seen a moving mic mount like that before. Very cool.
Great stuff, thank you so much. I have to agree with you about the E906 as well: if, like me, any of you thought, "I bought an SM57 because that's what everyone uses, but I don't like it!" it's worth a try. It's really convenient shape for mic'ing up in cramped spaces, too!
i use helix native now... as well as Bias FX. both allow mic movement. Helix Native gives great results with mic movement and changing... 100% agree on mic movement!!!!
I like moving the mic a little bit outside of the tweeter but turning it a 45 degree angle perpendicular to the concave of the speaker and it gets a great tone
Thanks for the good info and glad to see your studio getting even bigger man congrats on that new console.
The simplest way I've tracked guitar through my L6 helix is starting with bass a little lower and treble a little higher than I like. If it's rhythm guitars less mid, and lead guitar more mid. Lastly, dial back that gain knob. You're painting a sonic picture. Bass and gain is the backdrop or the primary color/sound that makes your head bang, but you can't paint with all black.
That console has brought some fire to your presentations.
That “starting point” bass and drums snippet went SO hard. FUCK.
Amazing video Glen, really appreciate your super clear and concise explanations. Your advice and tips have helped me iron out bad guitarist behaviour, and helped me with my mixing habits incredibly. Thank you so much man!
If you start with guitar first... either call it a guide track to be replaced later or be prepared to reamp. That's my advice to anyone. You don't literally have to track the bass first. But your guide does need to be in time for say... a drummer and bassist to play to. It may give them more energy. In saying that i have worked with drunmers who prefer to track in isolation. Whatever works for getting that performance. But yes absolutely bang on Glen. :).
I agree. It's important to realize this is a tutorial on mixing, not the recording process.
@@sonicclangabsolutely. i just wanted to point it out because some people take things quite literally rather than taking the lessons from it and applying them properly.
I like videos like this. I demo song ideas for my band here in my garage. Just a simple desktop set up, and like I said, it's just demoing ideas. I'm not recording "Dark Side Of the Moon" in my shitty little garage or anything, but I still want them to sound decent and videos like this where a simple mic placement does wonders is great and informative.
Neve console is cool. You clearly deserve it after all the years you've put in to music production and RUclips. That riff you're mixing is very decent.....
At last somebody that knows and is willing to teach us mere mortals
You are indeed a true leader of men
My god are you going upset a lot of people with this
Shear genius thanks Glenn
Hah, I wanted a robot 57 back in 2000 when I was tracking a big rock album. I asked a bunch of people and we just never got around to it.
"but i can move the mic for ya" was the answer every time.
This has been the most useful video that I have ever watch, on the subject of recording heavy guitars. Thank you Glenn for this amazing content. Unfortunately I can't subscribe again, I've been a follower for several years now. Best regards!
Glad it was helpful!
I always like your mixing videos. I think they are by far , the most interesting.
So far, so good. I usually get into trouble when making something more "Industrial", meaning take what you have there and put a couple of synths into the mix, preferably low- and midrange sounds...
starts sounding overloaded quickly.
LOL yeah Mic placement is VERY important! Anyone who does not realize this is very in-experienced or not very observant. We usually like them pointed right at the middle of the cone about 1ft back. Having a ceiling mic to mix in with it is also nice! As I have stated before this is all not needed if you get a Marshall code and Guitar Rig then use a USB cable to record. You certainly can go to all that extra time and money to buy cables, mics, set all the re-amp stuff up and nice remote mic adjuster BTW.... but why when you can get the same thing but cheaper and easier? Oh, did I mention USB into the DAW also would eliminate having the room set up to record in properly? It also takes out crosstalk issues as well. Great point at mixing in context. This assumes that the drums and bass are mixed well.
As a guitar player i never understood the obsession with a bass heavy tone. its always easier to cut through with a rich, bright, shimmering tone than to try and out-oomph the bass or drums. its easier to balance, it cuts through in a room or in a mix... its a no brainer, especially in a dirty heavy metal situation. keep it tight, keep it bright. we have to stay in our lane!
In all fairness to James and Lars, they admitted that their ears were blown out by being on the 1988 Monsters of Rock tour, so they kept turning the drums and guitars up and the bass down. It just goes to show you how important your ears need to rest before you move to the next step on a record. But yeah, if you listen to a remix of the Justice record with the bass back in, it sounds killer.
Hey Glenn, I just wanted to say thank you. Your channel has changed the way I approach music across the board. I wanted to take the time to bend the knee, kiss the ring and say thank you
Real technique and real results!
While I 100% agree that mixing guitars in the mix gets you so much further much fast with less plugins, I feel like there’s gonna be a few people in the back that might miss the overall point. This is also true for basically every other element in the mix. Just forget the solo button exists for 95% of your mix and things suddenly become much easier. The hard part is convincing yourself to trust and commit to it long enough to actually experience the benefits of ignoring solo.
yes guitar's tone knob (a low pass filter) is such an engage the suck tool. So many times I've mixing (live) & the guitars are stomping on the kick & bass and with the low pass dialled so low there's nothing to work with to move the guitars to sit in the mix. Ladies and Gents the tone knob isn't just a make is sound cool control - in a mix it's a control where you need to consider the composition.
Top notch video Glenn. Just shows what sounds good in the room may sound bad in the mix.
Also, trust a good bass player to take care of the low end to make you sound good!
Can I ask, did you have to tweek the bass sound after you were happy with the guitar mix?
Last thing, it's glorious to see you enjoy the new desk🙂 if you get any happier you'll lift it off the floor a few inches 😅 Bravo man, bravo.
It wasn’t just James, Lars’ drums also didn’t mix well with the bass. The mixer did get it working right though, but Lars supposedly told him to turn it down until you could barely hear the bass and then another few dB. The mixer looked at Jason who just shrugged
Thank you for this video Glenn. You nailed it buddy.
I used the eq.on the mixer. And put myself at the 10 and 2 position in the phones. On a ada zoom 2000.awesome box.oh yeah,with an alesis drum machine,and when i miked,a yes,no bs,a RADIO SHACK condenser mike draped over my laney double preamp 2 12 tube nasty.
You have an automatized rail for the Mic placement???? C'MOOOON !!!!
Love this! That Dynamount is convenient for finding the sweet spot. Thoughts on moving the mic around the other two dimensions of space? especially closer or farther from the speaker?
Somehow I missed this vid. Happens when I'm out for a few days with the wife. This is so badass!
I'm learning the vocals side, and I have heard some isolated vocals where I think "what in the hell is going on? This sounds like crap!" I thought it might have been a side-effect of the vocal isolator.
In the mix, it sounds great. After learning mixing, I found out all of the things done to vocal in the mix, include sometimes chopping off things like the lower frequencies. It makes more sense to be now
I've often said it before, I went to an Iron Maiden show in 2008 and Within Temptation was one of the opening acts. I was looking at the merch when the guitars were soundchecking. And they sounded godawful. Really horrible to my ear. But then the whole band joined in and I was struck by how well they sounded and fitted into the mix. That opened my eyes (and ears) that you need to dial in you guitar for a mix, not the bedroom.
More like this Glen! How about one where were we side compress kick and bass! Maybe one about parallel compression. How about just the basic housekeeping when you get a raw mix? I always spend a few hours putting things in order, setting up chains, color coding etc. Workflow before being creative am I right? Fuck you Glen!
Oh ya... And de-essing vocals!
Would be dope if you did re-amps like Ola does since you have a great amp collection as well, but if you listened to people’s rough mixes like you’re doing in this video.
First I'd heard of that dynamount thing. Made me sad because I had brainstormed up a similar product idea a couple years ago after watching you talk about the importance of mic placement.
I've found I need 4 setup/tones for my guitar rig. Bedroom, band practice, live stage performance, and recording.
Damn, I want a dynamount really bad now. Screw spending that much though, as someone who's built RC cars pretty much my entire life I think i'll build my own
it is similar with reverb, when soloing instrument like guitar with spring or plate, sounds often too metallic/springy/hollow, but in full mix? oh yes!
The riff is sick
More Nigel. Great video lesson!
Damn good video man...more content like this for sure..
Glenn you are a fuckin verified, check mark, MENSA front runner of a GENIUS! You just saved a few mixes of mine, moved the mic a hair in the amp sim and fuckin SHABOOIE, it sounds amazeballs now. Thank you bro, great friggen content!
lol, on showing the moving microphone mount the sound of the guitar so thick that any difference in sound due to the mic position wasn't audible once it'd passed through youtube ...
Great video. Learned a lot 😊
There's something I realised which I think might also be key in mixing metal guitars AND drums: There seems to be a lot of sidechaining from drums to the rhythm guitars, as in the guitars take a heavy beating from everything else from the mix. Kind of makes sense if you consider that in metal the guitars are extremely saturated with gain. It seems to me that, in order to make the guitars suffer from all the sidechaining in metal, you'd have to get ridiculously heavy-handed. You can make your drums stand out on account of the guitars quite a bit before the guitars wave the white flag.
What do you think, Glenn? Is there any sense in what I'm saying here?
Cool vid thx, Glenn.
Still I just can’t understand why these bad mics, like the SM 57 and the e906 , are still used for micing guitar amps
The Nigel bit at the end slayed me.
Excellent point of view!, Keep it simple…
At the end when you bring up the Tube Tech are you sending that to a bus for all the guitars?
I know no one cares about Bass but am I the only one who noticed in 1972 on the Can’t Buy a Thrill tour. Walter Becker is playing a Precision Bass with Jazz pickups routed in at the bridge and neck positions and it sound huge !!!!! Check out Reeling in the Years live and experience 70s camera man syndrome.
Havent finished the video yet but THANK YOU I'm lost as fuck!
Very helpful, thank you! 🎸☕
Angus Young recorded MOST of his tracks thru a small over driven dude amp, like, 25 to 50 watts. The ONLT VARIABLE was where they put the mic...
Love your show Glenn
Rock on n Fuck off
We subscriber. Also new at recording after being on the playing end for so long.
Could you just put the guitar into a looper and then have it play while adjusting the mic?
Also, getting the mix right in a live situation is a challenge for me. Any thoughts on that?
I also wanted to see the settings on the Maxon. Was it all noon or ???
Could you do somethjing lile this but for bass? The usual content is parallel processing and distort the hsit of the highs and compress the shit of the lows but a more comprehensive approach using your plugin would be awesome for us bassbros
excellent!
You should do some bass videos.
so basically the secret to recording heavy guitars is to take all the bottom end out of the guitars because that's the bass's job, is that why live shows can sound kind of muddy sometimes because people don't eq their guitars and leave all that bottom end in as well as the bass?
The Bass really makes that song.
Funny about the start of this video is my favorite guitar sound is and justice for all 😂 it’s fucking tiiiiiighttt
Hey! I need help: What's best to pair a SM57 for metal guitar? Any thoughts? I really like the OC16. But is it a match? I don't know ;-)! Glenn - help!! Thanks a ton!
Hey Glenn, long time sub and I have a basic ass question for you. When I record tracks on my daw it will just start crackling or sounds start sounding not bright or even worse it crashes when I have multiple tracks playing. (Like 4 tracks) idk if it’s the interface, daw, or what
Killer stuff
Bro that shirt is dope af
John's questions in the comments recently are even better than your videos :D
Any way to get a half decent mix using audacity ?? I don't record enough to pay for a program....I just wanna hear what a finished song sounds like 3rd person.
Hey glen, dont wanna beat a dead horse..... my effects puts out a stereo signal for the effects. I know i need to double track to get that full sound, but should i still pan 1 left and 1 right? Even with a stereo signal with stereo effects? Not in a "real" studio, but just home recording a 1 man show. I just cant seem to get the sound right. You should do a video with just cheap equipment for a 1 man show home studio. I use a usb board so i program drums and can only record 2 channels at a time into mackie traction software with a 24 channel behringer board. Is me not getting a decent mix me or does that equipment suck? Got a spider v 240hc (updated version) head cause you said it wasnt great but decent for personal use. Just so you know the setup.
Most guitar sounds people describe as "iconic" or "great" are usually pretty shite if isolated, the best thing to do is to stand out and bring something new and fitting to the table, or to practise for hours and become unappreciated with a great tone
This also highlights how double tracking with slightly different tones can really fatten things up. The northern mauler is 🤌.
Also as far as Justice goes Lars shares the blame as well. He did write a note saying “Turning the bass down” on their original demo tape. So you have guitars and drums taking up the bass frequencies. Leaving not much room for Jason to do his job. And supposedly it was Lars who said during the mixing process “Turn the bass down until you can barely hear it.” and once they got that point he said, “Turn it down another 5db”. This coming from an interview that Steve Thompson did with Ultimate Guitar back 2015.
Glenn, I NEEDED this video. Been having issues with getting a good tone lately so I’ve needed to get this figured out.
…you’re also making me want a dynamount.
Edit: I keep adding to this. Just wanted to make a request to go along with this: maybe a video on getting the drums and bass to work together.
Thanks!!
Great great great!
I follow you since your beginning and this my friend, is your best video ever, hands down. I'm in to music production for some years but this video made my guitar tone sit in the mix easier! I would like to see a drums and/or bass video like this one. F*CK you Glenn (thank you buddy!) Great content!!!
moving mics from the control room! god damn that's sick \m/ >_< \m/
I'm not gonna have to worry about shit anymore.
A.I. has literally solved all problems.
EX: I don't even have to play the bass parts anymore. procedurally generated bass happens after I record.
Hi Glenn! Are you using any reverb or delay on heavy rhythm guitars, especially on fast to very fast tracks?
None at all
Id kill to get that bass tone you have at 2:08 And I have your bass plugin, it sounds nothing like that.
Use my preset. It DOES sound like that!
As much as you might not want to hear it… Getting a Mesa boogie amp can help a lot with your recording sound what I mean is they are not designed for your bedroom and they will sound like shit when you play it there. They sound great, however, in a mix. Go figure.
Is this mister Ola Englund 's tracks?
I am curious. You like the Harley Benton cabinets so are you using them at all in any of your professional mixing jobs? If so do the clients question or comment?
(Sorry if I missed a video where you said you did use them.)
Holy shit please do this for bass and drums
I second that!
I third that
Shot my first drum one, it's currently being edited.
Awesome @@SpectreSoundStudios
Drums comes out tomorrow
7:10 "damn that really wants a tubescreamer" lol aint that always the truth
Glenn, you sound a lot less angry and douchey in your videos now and you are way more enjoyable to watch. Your experience and your message cut through the mix now and it really shows. You still know when to poke fun at your audience and that's awesome.
@@5150mkii he really does sound more mellow these days