im really impressed by the thorough job performed by the authorities. especially for this time period. this family was honestly very lucky to get the answers they deserved.
Sunday would be 24 years old today.....a beautiful little girl whos little life was taken too soon, her family desperately wanted to save her and her family from horrific violence only to loose there beautiful baby girl
This mom brought her kids to what she thought was safety, only to have one of her children die senselessly and over a couple hundred dollar paint job! Give me a break! That landlord was the epitome of a SLIMY SLUM LORD! absolutely soulless. RIP to little Sunday🙏🏾🕊️
For everyone mad at Mary, if dear old James had actually done his job as a landlord, little Sunday would still be alive. If you ask me he should've gotten a longer sentence, 15 months feels like a slap on the wrist for what is essentially murder by negligence. (He knew it could kill someone and did nothing about it).
For real though. Mary probably didn’t even know that the paint could’ve cause harm to Sunday. If she did, she would’ve made sure to protect Sunday. What she did is minuscule in comparison to what James did. He knew all along that the building was unsafe and didn’t give a crap.
@@vivianaortegon2985 there are drug dealers who've gotten longer sentences for just dealing. Not looking at how many people OD on the product or nothing. The justice system didn't deliver a fitting sentence, but in a way I'm glad he did see some consequences he could've gotten away with it if he was more careful, that's the scary part.
Why is her grave unmarked? It’s heartbreaking that this family ended up in a situation that was not only dangerous, but also completely avoidable. This despicable landlord chose saving a couple hundred dollars over the life of an innocent little girl.
I wonder if it's cultural not to mark graves? I grew up a town away from here, and I remember the influx os Sudanese refugges to Manchester. They don't have chairs or stairs, at least they didn't then. A massive influx of refugees from SUCH a different culture was a major event for the Americans, I can't imagine for the Sudanese, it must have been like immigrating to Mars. If they won $700k and didn't buy one it's probably not cultural. RIP Sundae.
I didn’t understand how he got the mother’s signature. The narrator said he was unaware how she signed her name but didn’t she have to sign paperwork to get the apartment. How could you just make up a signature and make up hand writing
Well, lol, take a look at that porch. A "few hundred dollars" (?) Ain't going to cover all that area. Lol. Painters aren't CHEAP. The lead would still BE there, b/c you.make it worse to try to go strip it all off. Tho I've know people who did it (heat gun). Still alive, 30 years later. Or more.
Aww she needs a grave marker! Poor baby! The creep landlord KNEW he was at fault!!! He took advantage of innocence people trying to make a better life for their family and a precious angel paid the ultimate price for his greed!!! TN welcomes the family! So sorry for their loss!
I agree!!! This is so incredibly sad and hard to accept that this poor baby lost her life. And the fact that the landlord tried to hide it!!! What was piece of garbage!
I thinks its a few decades ago so things were a lot different at that time. I also think the main reason was to ensure they did not bring any virus to US.
This is one of those episodes that stays with me and episodes I cried the first time I watched it. While I don’t cry when I watch this again, I still get a pain when I hear Peter Thomas’s last bit of dialogue. It makes me wonder if Peter Thomas tears up a little when he narrates. That would be understandable if he does. Her family left their country to avoid danger, unknowingly coming into more danger. I pray Sunday is resting in peace and that her family is doing alright today. I hope to go to her grave and place flowers on it. Sunday and her family didn’t deserve this. R.I.P Sunday Abek, anyone who knew her that passed, and Peter Thomas
I'm currently suing my landlord my 2 year old is sick with Lead poisoning, not as high as Little baby Sunday its at a 59. We are currently going through treatment.🙏🏼
@@melissaweathers7225 His levels are going down a little bit, still going through his treatment and he also goes to see the neurologist and speech therapy, this has just been a crazy process😫
@@sharoncowson2822 I am happy to hear his levels are coming down. It does take some time. My son has severe autism and is non verbal, He also has what's called pica, which is where he eats non food like items. He had a small spot behind his toy box he would pick at and push it back on the wall. Lead paint has a very sweet taste to it. It took about 2 years but we were able to bring his down from 39, back down to normal. He was only 3 at the time. I remember how terrifying it was. An absolute disaster! Wouldn't wish that on anyone!
@@sharoncowson2822 unfortunately that's the exact reason he got it. He ate those paint chips. When we found out we moved immediately to a hotel. EPA was involved. Our house had lead in the paint, pipes, soil, everywhere. It was a disaster
My friends Ma was a kid who was sent here as a child during the war, she use to tell us about being hungry and how when she came to NZ she was always sneaking food and eating bad food that she found because it took her a long time to realise the meals were always going to keep coming now and she would never go hungry again and when she became a Mum, man the food that woman had in her house, unbelievable
I'm purely mad at everyone who think it's the mom's fault. I've read the comments and clearly there's a huge difference between understanding what happened and pure shallowness from the accusing parties here. Someone here said that the mom should have "fed" her better when she was in US..maaan that's messed up. Do you understand the meaning of a refugee?????????????
Especially from Sudan..that's the worst place you'd want to be in. I have friends from there...what they run from its traumatising..Kenya is heaven for them
Some ignorant, self-righteous people, who probably never even went to such countries will never understand their misery. I live in a developing country, yet there's still starvation/famine in some secluded places here where the kids have to eat moldy rice and poisonous cassava just to survive the day...
@@spiffyspice3724 You for the clarity and win. It's totally because she's BLACK that they're victim blaming. If she were Russian or even a fair skinned Latina, there'd be all kinds of compassion for this family. The show did a fantastic, kind and objective re-telling of these events devoid of any racism. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Did you miss the part where she had pica? There's no way you'd know if she'd still be alive with her eating weird non-food items. She was eating flakes of PAINT, FFS. And her mother let her child eat paint. Even non-lead paint is probably a bad idea to EAT. Maybe she'd graduate to eating splinters and they'd poke holes all over her gastrointestinal tract. You don't know.
@@encycl07pedia- you’re missing the bigger point. The mom said she saw the little girl pick at the paint not eat it. Use your other half of the brain next time.
@@kimmyymmik Really? You think Mary was observant enough to see her daughter picking at paint but not eating it? Do you think Sunday stashed the paint chips and didn't immediately eat them? She's two! When she wants to eat something, she eats it. She doesn't bide her time. Mary didn't think "Where did all the paint chips go?" Mary was unemployed, too. There's no way Mary didn't know Sunday was eating it.
@@encycl07pedia- your missing the point the point is not that she had pica or the mother wasnt paying attention the landlord forged tenates signetures so he could make more money he also diceied not to repaint the porch which is told to us in the video that it could have saved sunday's life thats what thomas pluffe was talking about
All too many landlords don't want to spend the money for maintenance but rather just pocket it instead. This is not with just housing but in many areas such as the workplace, trucking companies, restaurants, etc. To them if someone gets sick or killed it isn't their problem. I hope since this aired that Sunday now has a grave marker and perhaps been reinterred closer to the family. No one deserves an unmarked grave. Approximately two million people were killed in Sudan's civil war from 1983 to 2005. A new war started last year and has claimed 15,000 lives so far.
@@KJB7777 No doubt. In my former home town an apartment owner left an unsafe stairway go and it eventually collapsed and killed three people. He got 10 years in the clink (paroled after seven years)
If this was a father who refused to paint the porch and the child died, he would be charged with manslaughter. Why is it any different for a landlord? Because it's a business??? If anything he should be charged for twice as much as a lazy father or other parent. Just another privilege of owning a business that keeps people in poverty.
I don't understand how the investigators didn't automatically check the front porch as the peeling paint was a red flag. Instead they go to Africa and investigate there before it occurs to them to check the porch? It's a no brainer to assume two year olds are crawling around everywhere the family had access.
No way could he have known that someone would be eating paint. I bet if the little girl drank bleach, you'd blame the mother for buying it, too, right? That kid was a disaster waiting to happen with pica. Nobody knows what else she would eat that would cause her serious health problems. He forged documents because he didn't want to be liable for some stoop it kid eating lead paint.
@@encycl07pedia- she wasn't stupid you bitch she was starving and a refugee whose family was forced to flee their home because of your stupid war as all children her age who grew up in wars or escaped one suffered starvation from the lack of food plus he was responsible for her death he knew about the pain and he didn't warn any of his tenants that the paint chips were toxic if he was innocent he wouldn't have forged any signatures on any documents she was two years a fucking toddler who was starving toddlers aren't going to know what they're eating is toxic or not grow a damn brain
Small problem: if she doesn't EAT PAINT, she doesn't die. He didn't set out to kill anyone and honestly he didn't. He was negligent. If someone drinks rat poison all on their own, you don't blame the person who bought it, do you? All he did was fail to adequately caution the family to not EAT PAINT(!!!) and covered up the crime by falsifying documents. I'm pretty sure eating "normal" paint isn't good for you, either.
@@kellyammirati3259 - The mother... she's the "primary caregiver". So says every family court in the country. The father's responsibility is to "provide". Ask any man that's forced to pay for the child he's barely - if at all - allowed to "visit".
@@DDee-kj3mf Because I've seen people do much worse than forge signatures and be cheap on this show and in real life. Ask yourself why you defend people who EAT PAINT!
Those complaining about headstone mostly in Africa we don't mark tomb we use wooden cross,written name year of death and birth and after some time it rots or eaten by ants and it remains unmarked forever
Instead of blaming the mother for not feeding her child, blame the owner for not spending what would have been a few hundred dollars to paint over, he already knew the building had a lead problem, such negligence, they should have been rewarded way more. Also, children, even those fully nourished, tend to eat things they they shouldn’t all the time even when the parent is watching and trying to avoid that. I believe a lot of these comments are pure racism and victim blaming.
Let's blame taxpayers for not feed this mom with nothing and lot of children, maybe she doesn't know children must eat ,bad taxpayers, bad country,good and mom ,very smart and responsible with children you bring to this world ....
Many children over the years have gotten I’ll from eating paint chips. You know young children put things in their mouths. It’s not the mothers fault. Most landlords have tenants paint if they want to get $$ off rent. It probably wouldn’t have cost him anything.
It's only "unsafe" if you think paint is a snack. Nobody else got lead poisoning. I wonder why? I mean a fireplace and an oven or even a lightbulb can burn a house down! Let's outlaw all of them for people who can't figure out how to survive in a normal home!
@@encycl07pedia- Nice perspective, but my comment is not referring to this isolated incident but more so the notion that it's okay to have people live in unsafe conditions as long as they are made aware. Unsafe conditions can be mold, asbestos, faulty wiring, etc.
So why doesn't someone in NH or TN set up a go fund me page to have Sunday's remains brought to where the family now lives and buried in a cemetery where they can go and put flowers on her grave. I know I'd donate to it.
Why does little Sunday rest in an unmarked grave?? If her family received money from the lawsuit against the real estate company why haven't they bought her a head stone?? Even if her family did not receive any money I am sure people would have been happy to donate money to help buy Sunday a head stone .
When I was very young, maybe 3 years old, we were dirt poor(no pun intended). My mother may not have found out I was affected by pica. She told me this story when I was an adult and it’s always stuck with me. We were so poor during the 40’s because of rationing from World War 2 when I was born. Mom said I used to like to play in our fenced in backyard. Unfortunately, she never saw me doing this and who knows how long I was doing it. I used to eat dirt, you read that correctly, dirt from the ground in the yard. I even used a spoon. The only way she found out, a tiny little creature was stuck to my tongue by its pinchers. It was a large black carpenter ant, the kind that chew out tree trunks. Naturally I don’t remember this but I went into the house crying, going aah, aah pointing to my wide open mouth. There it was, pinching my tongue, as she reached in and plucked it out. It didn’t take her long to discover some dirt, and asked me did I put dirt in my mouth. I nodded my head yes. I’ll be 80yo next year, maybe eating dirt put some good bacteria inside me. I forgot the reason why children like me eat dirt, guess I’ll have to google it. Almost forgot, my house I grew up and lived in for 62 years still has lead based paint on the woodwork. That’s because it was first painted 125 years ago, when lead paint was used
I'm sure you're not the only one who was eating dirt as a wee one at the time, I have read it is sometimes to do with a vitamin deficiency and rationing could have caused that. :(
God Bless you ma’am. It due to low iron. My niece was doing it and my at the time future in laws thought it was cute until I told them why. They were grateful but curios as to how I knew. New York Irish grandmothers who worked at Fannie Mae and was the elder of 9 and would be 112 today. I learned so much from her just by the family stories she told. Godspeed
And they are so expensive but with that settlement they could have but it's a different culture like you said,I don't think we should be looking for things to label someone a bad person.
Such a sad story😢these politicians in Africa should stop their greed and wars; no one deserve fleeing from their own country. Sunday; rest in peace; my son is there with you in Heaven 🙏💞💕
" . . . To have the porch repainted would have only cost a few hundred dollars . . . " NOPE !!! I Flipped an old house once and it cost 10k to have lead paint removed from a wall . . . 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
I used to remediate hazardous materials like lead. You can paint over it(encapsulate) if you aren't basically cutting drilling or disturbing the old paint to cause dust. If you did none of that or it wasn't required by a local or state law you got played. But think like this, the company night have removed it properly and saved another kid.
So in the beginning the mother accepted the death off her daughter as God’s wish. But then the lawyers and scientists wanted an explanation and were looking for somebody who was responsible???
I was trying to get u guys full season from 1- but can't. Some of them is either taken down or.......I don't know but I would like to watch every episodes
When lead became the suspect, they didn't think to check her living environment, the simplest possibility, before running all over the world? These are the people we trust our health and safety to? SMH.
Those complaining about headstone mostly in Africa they don't mark tomb they use wooden cross,written name year of death and birth and after some time it rots or eaten by aunts and it remains unmarked forever
Let's cut to the chase here. Should have the land lord posted about the possible exposure to lead poisoning given the age of the building. Of course. But, where was children's mom at when she's eating paint chips off of porch to an extent where she died?
Its a fact of life for children to try to eat random stuff. You jump to an awful lot of conclusions given you don't consider she tried and stopped her only after starting eating the chips. Once the process starts and you catch the child you just caught them after they started. Have children and maybe you'll understand.
All the kids on this program who are getting molested and killed by people close to them or coming right into the homes harming them and some of you choose to critique about a headstone. It's a waste of money in my opinion. I would make one from scratch with love. We know why these hateful, pathetic comments are here. Some people need some self evaluation.
I am sure the mother would have signed the documents legitimately simply because she doesn’t seem like someone able to understand a warning a about lead poisoning.
Some people can not expell certain things as normal bodies do. Perhaps, I thought, her body was holding onto the lead. My body doesn't properly expell lithium, it almost killed me.
9:37 Had this incompetent tech actually done her job, instead of trying to play detective, then the answer would've come back quite quickly! But Karen there was just so sure that this was a case of intentional poisoning and she wanted to be the person who cornered them. Absolutely pathetic and aggravating!
As a licensed real estate agent in Florida the lead base paint disclosure is for homes built in 1978 or before not 1977. A year might make a difference in someone's life, look it up online and don't believe the guy at 15:20 ... Seems like a little fact checking could have went a long way
Wow no body realized that in the 2 cases? May be you presented a fact which was never disputed in the video. The agent himself did not realized that and made fake notices, his lawyers did not realize it as well.
Let's not be quick to judge. Different cultures, different customs. I'm an African and tombstones are not a priority for some tribes, especially if the family are Muslims. Sudanese are predominantly Muslims. The Muslims believe that Allah wills and gives us babies. He can take back anytime he wants. No need for elaborate tombstones or adoration of the dead. In same Africa, some tribes, especially the Ashantis of Ghana would go all out to adore and worship their dead relatives. They make elaborate tombstones, sometimes put up a whole building as tombstone for their dearly departed. It all boils down to culture and customs. We should not be quick to judge!!!
@@alexaddo4993 Thank you, Alex. I did not think about the cultural differences. I was only thinking from my limited perspective. Upon reflexion, I see that it was the decision for the family to make, not the property management, nor even us as outsiders. I do know that, no matter where the body is laid, the child is in her mother's heart, always. 💖
To be honest this was a little bit of a deeper episode. The landlord got a punishment I think deserving of what he did as he didn't premeditate or actually intend the child to die himself. What he really did was take advantage of a family who was fleeing a bad situation by putting them into a place he would likely have not been able to rent otherwise. Granted this is taking advantage of their family and should be punished, but its not intentionally murderous. I believe that Sunday's mother was responsible only partially for what happened because the paint would likely not have been ingested if she was keeping a closer eye on Sunday, HOWEVER, with the context of moving from Sudan during a civil war, multiple children, and the challenges that come from learning a different culture I believe that care should be taken to make sure that their family are able to get all of their needs taken care of food wise, and living wise by a person who is familiar with the area. So I do think this case does say something of note that we can do better as a country on. When immigrants are fleeing truly desperate situations like war that have the possibility of death their well being should probably ensured at least until they are able to begin moving forward with a new life. Otherwise, you may have stuff like this case here.
Considering their circumstances, where else where they going to live? It was probably the only building with openings, and was what they could afford. I think even if an interpreter read the disclosure & she signed it, the outcome would have been the same. Her daughter would have still eaten the paint chips.
Yeah. They should just make it a requirement that the landlord make the property save. Like they said, a couple hundred dollars could’ve saved her life, so why not enforce them to just spend the couple hundred dollars to begin with and remove the risk
All parents know little children put things into their mouth, it's not exclusive to starved African children. If you KNEW there was poisonous chips of paint you'd watch your child a lot more closely, and not let them eat chips of paint that are otherwise mostly harmless.
@@davisj3920 Why spend hundreds of dollars when you don't have to? Notice none of the other tenants felt compelled to eat paint and none of the other tenants suffered lead poisoning. It never should have been an issue because no one in their right mind eats paint. I bet if the kid locked herself in the complex's dryer, you'd blame the landlord for not telling people to not lock themselves in the dryer.
im really impressed by the thorough job performed by the authorities. especially for this time period. this family was honestly very lucky to get the answers they deserved.
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Sunday would be 24 years old today.....a beautiful little girl whos little life was taken too soon, her family desperately wanted to save her and her family from horrific violence only to loose there beautiful baby girl
Such a tragedy
Lose* their*
Yes, she and I share a birthday 🎂
This mom brought her kids to what she thought was safety, only to have one of her children die senselessly and over a couple hundred dollar paint job! Give me a break! That landlord was the epitome of a SLIMY SLUM LORD! absolutely soulless.
RIP to little Sunday🙏🏾🕊️
Human greed 🤑 is so disgusting 🤢🤮
For everyone mad at Mary, if dear old James had actually done his job as a landlord, little Sunday would still be alive. If you ask me he should've gotten a longer sentence, 15 months feels like a slap on the wrist for what is essentially murder by negligence. (He knew it could kill someone and did nothing about it).
For real though. Mary probably didn’t even know that the paint could’ve cause harm to Sunday. If she did, she would’ve made sure to protect Sunday. What she did is minuscule in comparison to what James did. He knew all along that the building was unsafe and didn’t give a crap.
That is right. Just 15 months!! That is nothing, at least life imprison!
@@vivianaortegon2985 there are drug dealers who've gotten longer sentences for just dealing. Not looking at how many people OD on the product or nothing. The justice system didn't deliver a fitting sentence, but in a way I'm glad he did see some consequences he could've gotten away with it if he was more careful, that's the scary part.
Naw he should got life with out possibility of parole😡
Why is her grave unmarked? It’s heartbreaking that this family ended up in a situation that was not only dangerous, but also completely avoidable. This despicable landlord chose saving a couple hundred dollars over the life of an innocent little girl.
Maybe they couldn’t afford a gravestone
I wonder if it's cultural not to mark graves? I grew up a town away from here, and I remember the influx os Sudanese refugges to Manchester. They don't have chairs or stairs, at least they didn't then. A massive influx of refugees from SUCH a different culture was a major event for the Americans, I can't imagine for the Sudanese, it must have been like immigrating to Mars. If they won $700k and didn't buy one it's probably not cultural. RIP Sundae.
Didn't they get a large payout? Scum fam @@GalenNight
I didn’t understand how he got the mother’s signature. The narrator said he was unaware how she signed her name but didn’t she have to sign paperwork to get the apartment. How could you just make up a signature and make up hand writing
Well, lol, take a look at that porch. A "few hundred dollars" (?) Ain't going to cover all that area. Lol. Painters aren't CHEAP. The lead would still BE there, b/c you.make it worse to try to go strip it all off. Tho I've know people who did it (heat gun). Still alive, 30 years later. Or more.
Aww she needs a grave marker! Poor baby! The creep landlord KNEW he was at fault!!! He took advantage of innocence people trying to make a better life for their family and a precious angel paid the ultimate price for his greed!!! TN welcomes the family! So sorry for their loss!
You need help. 💯😬😬👌
$700K settlement and no grave marker? Maybe the family didn't want one?
Unlike other episodes which I watch over and over again, I was unable to watch this one more than once. It was truly heartbreaking 💔.
You are not alone.. there are about a dozen forensic files episodes that I just cannot bring myself to watch. This is one of them.
I agree!!! This is so incredibly sad and hard to accept that this poor baby lost her life. And the fact that the landlord tried to hide it!!! What was piece of garbage!
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It's so rare and amazing that a government goes out of its way to resolve a crime against refugees. Normally these cases go cold forever.
I thinks its a few decades ago so things were a lot different at that time. I also think the main reason was to ensure they did not bring any virus to US.
Never a cold case in America. Just might take longer than we want sometimes.
Absolutely BS ,show proof
This is one of those episodes that stays with me and episodes I cried the first time I watched it. While I don’t cry when I watch this again, I still get a pain when I hear Peter Thomas’s last bit of dialogue. It makes me wonder if Peter Thomas tears up a little when he narrates. That would be understandable if he does. Her family left their country to avoid danger, unknowingly coming into more danger. I pray Sunday is resting in peace and that her family is doing alright today. I hope to go to her grave and place flowers on it. Sunday and her family didn’t deserve this.
R.I.P Sunday Abek, anyone who knew her that passed, and Peter Thomas
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Her mom is also responsible for her death!
@@NathanBee3 True, she shouldn’t have let Sunday pick or nibble on the paint, but she didn’t know that it would cause any harm to her
It's super rare now but I love finding ones I haven't seen before
I'm currently suing my landlord my 2 year old is sick with Lead poisoning, not as high as Little baby Sunday its at a 59. We are currently going through treatment.🙏🏼
How is that going? My son had it as well 😔
@@melissaweathers7225 His levels are going down a little bit, still going through his treatment and he also goes to see the neurologist and speech therapy, this has just been a crazy process😫
@@sharoncowson2822 I am happy to hear his levels are coming down. It does take some time. My son has severe autism and is non verbal, He also has what's called pica, which is where he eats non food like items. He had a small spot behind his toy box he would pick at and push it back on the wall. Lead paint has a very sweet taste to it. It took about 2 years but we were able to bring his down from 39, back down to normal. He was only 3 at the time. I remember how terrifying it was. An absolute disaster! Wouldn't wish that on anyone!
@@melissaweathers7225 Omg🥲 you guys are not dealing with this lead issue from his Pica are you? It does take alot of time to get it out though😫
@@sharoncowson2822 unfortunately that's the exact reason he got it. He ate those paint chips. When we found out we moved immediately to a hotel. EPA was involved. Our house had lead in the paint, pipes, soil, everywhere. It was a disaster
My friends Ma was a kid who was sent here as a child during the war, she use to tell us about being hungry and how when she came to NZ she was always sneaking food and eating bad food that she found because it took her a long time to realise the meals were always going to keep coming now and she would never go hungry again and when she became a Mum, man the food that woman had in her house, unbelievable
These types of forensic files are the best
Kudos to all the investigators
I'm purely mad at everyone who think it's the mom's fault. I've read the comments and clearly there's a huge difference between understanding what happened and pure shallowness from the accusing parties here. Someone here said that the mom should have "fed" her better when she was in US..maaan that's messed up. Do you understand the meaning of a refugee?????????????
Especially from Sudan..that's the worst place you'd want to be in. I have friends from there...what they run from its traumatising..Kenya is heaven for them
Some ignorant, self-righteous people, who probably never even went to such countries will never understand their misery. I live in a developing country, yet there's still starvation/famine in some secluded places here where the kids have to eat moldy rice and poisonous cassava just to survive the day...
Victim blaming is a very real phenomenon. Even more so if the victim is black and the perpetrator is caucasian.
@@spiffyspice3724 You for the clarity and win. It's totally because she's BLACK that they're victim blaming. If she were Russian or even a fair skinned Latina, there'd be all kinds of compassion for this family. The show did a fantastic, kind and objective re-telling of these events devoid of any racism. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Well you can get glad in the same pants u got mad in
If the landlord just did what was needed sunday would still be alive
Did you miss the part where she had pica? There's no way you'd know if she'd still be alive with her eating weird non-food items. She was eating flakes of PAINT, FFS. And her mother let her child eat paint. Even non-lead paint is probably a bad idea to EAT. Maybe she'd graduate to eating splinters and they'd poke holes all over her gastrointestinal tract. You don't know.
@@encycl07pedia- you’re missing the bigger point. The mom said she saw the little girl pick at the paint not eat it. Use your other half of the brain next time.
@@kimmyymmik Really? You think Mary was observant enough to see her daughter picking at paint but not eating it? Do you think Sunday stashed the paint chips and didn't immediately eat them? She's two! When she wants to eat something, she eats it. She doesn't bide her time. Mary didn't think "Where did all the paint chips go?" Mary was unemployed, too. There's no way Mary didn't know Sunday was eating it.
@@encycl07pedia- dude chill out you're coming off very hateful towards a small child that's no longer here tf wrong with you
@@encycl07pedia- your missing the point the point is not that she had pica or the mother wasnt paying attention
the landlord forged tenates signetures so he could make more money he also diceied not to repaint the porch which is told to us in the video that it could have saved sunday's life thats what thomas pluffe was talking about
Most people need to remember that the mom is not from here. They may not deal with this in their country
Very sad, at least they got some kind of "justice". In other countries, this crime would go unpunished.
There would be no investigation at all in our country which is in Africa.
That's true. I live in a developing country, and I'm sure such case will still go unnoticed here as well. So sad. 😔
The narrators voice will give u goozebumbs a chills. ..just perfect fit fr this kinda crime series
@@LadyVoldemortshe would be buried the day after and forgotten.. God Bless the USA
All too many landlords don't want to spend the money for maintenance but rather just pocket it instead. This is not with just housing but in many areas such as the workplace, trucking companies, restaurants, etc. To them if someone gets sick or killed it isn't their problem.
I hope since this aired that Sunday now has a grave marker and perhaps been reinterred closer to the family. No one deserves an unmarked grave.
Approximately two million people were killed in Sudan's civil war from 1983 to 2005. A new war started last year and has claimed 15,000 lives so far.
@@KJB7777 No doubt. In my former home town an apartment owner left an unsafe stairway go and it eventually collapsed and killed three people. He got 10 years in the clink (paroled after seven years)
My heart aches for Sunday’s family. So sad!
If this was a father who refused to paint the porch and the child died, he would be charged with manslaughter.
Why is it any different for a landlord? Because it's a business??? If anything he should be charged for twice as much as a lazy father or other parent.
Just another privilege of owning a business that keeps people in poverty.
I don't understand how the investigators didn't automatically check the front porch as the peeling paint was a red flag. Instead they go to Africa and investigate there before it occurs to them to check the porch? It's a no brainer to assume two year olds are crawling around everywhere the family had access.
Yep.
Poor baby + the family 😢
Loved how mom stood her grounds
Amazing job they did ❤️so sad can’t bring her back 😥
The landlord should have gotten more time.
No way could he have known that someone would be eating paint. I bet if the little girl drank bleach, you'd blame the mother for buying it, too, right? That kid was a disaster waiting to happen with pica. Nobody knows what else she would eat that would cause her serious health problems.
He forged documents because he didn't want to be liable for some stoop it kid eating lead paint.
@@encycl07pedia- she wasn't stupid you bitch she was starving and a refugee whose family was forced to flee their home because of your stupid war as all children her age who grew up in wars or escaped one suffered starvation from the lack of food plus he was responsible for her death he knew about the pain and he didn't warn any of his tenants that the paint chips were toxic if he was innocent he wouldn't have forged any signatures on any documents she was two years a fucking toddler who was starving toddlers aren't going to know what they're eating is toxic or not grow a damn brain
@@encycl07pedia- what an ignorant thing to say! Educate yourself before you speak and learn to spell, Stupid!!! 🙄
@@melissaweathers7225 You think I need to learn how to spell? You can't even figure out basic capitalization. Quit projecting.
@@encycl07pedia- I see you fixed it. 🤣 Have a blessed day! 😘
Why no grave marker? Such a sad funeral. Seeing that little casket broke my heart.
Started my Forensic Files marathon when Covid-19 pandemic just hit last March 2020
Poor little Sunday & her family that landlord was pure evil!!!
This case was heartbreaking. Poor baby Sunday..
I am mad why he only got 15months and not 50years. It is intentional, premeditated, and he went to great lengths to cover it up.
Small problem: if she doesn't EAT PAINT, she doesn't die. He didn't set out to kill anyone and honestly he didn't. He was negligent. If someone drinks rat poison all on their own, you don't blame the person who bought it, do you? All he did was fail to adequately caution the family to not EAT PAINT(!!!) and covered up the crime by falsifying documents.
I'm pretty sure eating "normal" paint isn't good for you, either.
@@encycl07pedia- lol 😂 you don’t blame them well when it comes to KIDS the mother and the father are to blame.
@@kellyammirati3259 - The mother... she's the "primary caregiver". So says every family court in the country. The father's responsibility is to "provide". Ask any man that's forced to pay for the child he's barely - if at all - allowed to "visit".
@@encycl07pedia-ask yourself why you defend the criminal landlord so much.
@@DDee-kj3mf Because I've seen people do much worse than forge signatures and be cheap on this show and in real life. Ask yourself why you defend people who EAT PAINT!
Those complaining about headstone mostly in Africa we don't mark tomb we use wooden cross,written name year of death and birth and after some time it rots or eaten by ants and it remains unmarked forever
people's aunts come and eat wood crosses of thier relatives? Now that's a culture shock.
@@MrJames-tw3so 💀😭
@@MrJames-tw3so its not thier its their so u have made a grammatical mistake rubbish
@@MrJames-tw3so
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@@Funnyvideos111-z9c but I made two people laugh here and you just note something that is not even almost interesting.
Should be 7 million. 15 years and all his assets seized and he gets nothing.
Who else watches forensic files to go to sleep? 🛌 😴
Who doesn't???🙈🙈🙈
Instead of blaming the mother for not feeding her child, blame the owner for not spending what would have been a few hundred dollars to paint over, he already knew the building had a lead problem, such negligence, they should have been rewarded way more. Also, children, even those fully nourished, tend to eat things they they shouldn’t all the time even when the parent is watching and trying to avoid that. I believe a lot of these comments are pure racism and victim blaming.
Let's blame taxpayers for not feed this mom with nothing and lot of children, maybe she doesn't know children must eat ,bad taxpayers, bad country,good and mom ,very smart and responsible with children you bring to this world ....
landlords make so much from rent, and still drag their feet over repairs, even when it's to remove a really toxic chemical dangerous to children
Out of all 400 episodes, this is the only one that makes me literally weep
Many children over the years have gotten I’ll from eating paint chips. You know young children put things in their mouths. It’s not the mothers fault. Most landlords have tenants paint if they want to get $$ off rent. It probably wouldn’t have cost him anything.
Ridiculous! RIP little Sunday
U.S. Government: You can have people living in unsafe conditions, but you have to tell them that they're living in unsafe conditions.
It's only "unsafe" if you think paint is a snack. Nobody else got lead poisoning. I wonder why? I mean a fireplace and an oven or even a lightbulb can burn a house down! Let's outlaw all of them for people who can't figure out how to survive in a normal home!
@@encycl07pedia- Nice perspective, but my comment is not referring to this isolated incident but more so the notion that it's okay to have people live in unsafe conditions as long as they are made aware. Unsafe conditions can be mold, asbestos, faulty wiring, etc.
Poor child 😢! All because of the landlord's love of money!
Darwinism. She was eating paint. Nobody else in the apartments had lead poisoning because they're not stoop it enough to eat paint.
So why doesn't someone in NH or TN set up a go fund me page to have Sunday's remains brought to where the family now lives and buried in a cemetery where they can go and put flowers on her grave. I know I'd donate to it.
They don’t live in Tennessee anymore, but have resettled in Louisville, Kentucky.
You've got to be kidding or seriously demented?! 💯😬😬🙄🙄
15 months in jail is shame on the US justice 😮😮😮😮
Why does little Sunday rest in an unmarked grave?? If her family received money from the lawsuit against the real estate company why haven't they bought her a head stone?? Even if her family did not receive any money I am sure people would have been happy to donate money to help buy Sunday a head stone .
I mean how expensive is a new cost of paint in the grand scheme of things? Couple hundred bucks? What a SLUMLORD 😡
When I was very young, maybe 3 years old, we were dirt poor(no pun intended). My mother may not have found out I was affected by pica. She told me this story when I was an adult and it’s always stuck with me. We were so poor during the 40’s because of rationing from World War 2 when I was born. Mom said I used to like to play in our fenced in backyard. Unfortunately, she never saw me doing this and who knows how long I was doing it. I used to eat dirt, you read that correctly, dirt from the ground in the yard. I even used a spoon. The only way she found out, a tiny little creature was stuck to my tongue by its pinchers. It was a large black carpenter ant, the kind that chew out tree trunks. Naturally I don’t remember this but I went into the house crying, going aah, aah pointing to my wide open mouth. There it was, pinching my tongue, as she reached in and plucked it out. It didn’t take her long to discover some dirt, and asked me did I put dirt in my mouth. I nodded my head yes. I’ll be 80yo next year, maybe eating dirt put some good bacteria inside me. I forgot the reason why children like me eat dirt, guess I’ll have to google it. Almost forgot, my house I grew up and lived in for 62 years still has lead based paint on the woodwork. That’s because it was first painted 125 years ago, when lead paint was used
I'm sure you're not the only one who was eating dirt as a wee one at the time, I have read it is sometimes to do with a vitamin deficiency and rationing could have caused that. :(
@@neconeconeco correct
God Bless you ma’am. It due to low iron. My niece was doing it and my at the time future in laws thought it was cute until I told them why. They were grateful but curios as to how I knew. New York Irish grandmothers who worked at Fannie Mae and was the elder of 9 and would be 112 today. I learned so much from her just by the family stories she told. Godspeed
Your story is one I’ll remember. Thank you
Why on earth is the mother allowing the child to eat paint chips every day? That's where the blame lies.
And he still hasn't repainted the porch.
I ate lead paint when I was 1 but survived. Rip Sunday.
For the ignorant people calling her parents "pathetic" for not giving her a headstone. SOME RELIGIONS AND CULTURES DON'T ALLOW HEADSTONES.
And they are so expensive but with that settlement they could have but it's a different culture like you said,I don't think we should be looking for things to label someone a bad person.
Get a headstone out of respect.
@@moptopzzz8076 Out of respect for the perpetual American disrespect to other cultures, right?
@@moptopzzz8076 Try again. 🙄
Yep…SOME DON’T… and u don’t have any proof of whether her culture allowed for it or not… No one does so she “could” be pathetic or not. 🤷🏽♀️
You got to be KIDDING , this Landlord should have been Jailed , and fined 10mil , or MORE !!!
Grreat story. RIP little girl🙏🏾
Human greed 🤑 is so disgusting 🤢🤮
Thank God, that uncaring landlord was punished for his criminal act by doing prison time, and by having to pay money to Little Sunday's family.
This is despicable!
Such a sad story😢these politicians in Africa should stop their greed and wars; no one deserve fleeing from their own country. Sunday; rest in peace; my son is there with you in Heaven 🙏💞💕
Actually it's foreign powers greed for natural resources that's responsible for wars in Africa.
One of the best episodes
Definitely the mother was negligent first! She clearly was not paying attention!
I have watched ff for many years because of peter Thomas his commentary is out of thi s world 1924 to 2016
This is SO sad.
Investigators were like "Let's check only the inside of the apartment." Not the porch though.
And just like that you have a lawsuit against your landlord. 😂
Good job done.
" . . . To have the porch repainted would have only cost a few hundred dollars . . . "
NOPE !!! I Flipped an old house once and it cost 10k to have lead paint removed from a wall . . .
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I don't think that is the point. If it saves a child's life it is worth $1,000,000,000
You should have burned it down for the insurance money.
@@futuremrs.c1099 Lol, maybe if it's your money. Sure.
I used to remediate hazardous materials like lead. You can paint over it(encapsulate) if you aren't basically cutting drilling or disturbing the old paint to cause dust. If you did none of that or it wasn't required by a local or state law you got played. But think like this, the company night have removed it properly and saved another kid.
@@nicholassaville1933 Seriously, how many kids do you know that eat paint?
He only got 15 months in prison? That's despicable. Should have been much, much longer.
How could the forged documents be in the office garbage a year later ?
So in the beginning the mother accepted the death off her daughter as God’s wish.
But then the lawyers and scientists wanted an explanation and were looking for
somebody who was responsible???
That poor baby girl and her mom 😢
Awww...poor baby.
I'm sure the lawyers got most of the family's judgement money.
Sad god help us all
I have seen this many times, surviving war in Africa only to die abroad in a supposedly safe country.
I was trying to get u guys full season from 1- but can't. Some of them is either taken down or.......I don't know but I would like to watch every episodes
Imagine how happy she and her family was rescued from refugees camp and coming America
Great Africa !
This comment is in very bad taste.
@@Denvermorgan2000 Unlike the paint chips, which were very tasty
@@DNE2012 She died doing what she loved: eating lead paint.
"They thought at least their kids could be raised without getting shot at".
Good job
Sunday Would Have Been As Beautiful As Her Mum ❤
Poor baby :(
Why is that poor baby girl Sunday buried in an unmarked grave? I would like to know!
Its not required in their culture. Everyone does not live American way in the world.
15 mos. for killing a child?!!!
He didn't kill anyone. He didn't stuff her face with lead paint, did he? Pay attention. Use your mind for once in your pathetic life.
My question is, why is she buried in an unmarked grave?
When lead became the suspect, they didn't think to check her living environment, the simplest possibility, before running all over the world? These are the people we trust our health and safety to? SMH.
What?! Huh?! Unmarked grave?! Whyyyyy? All around disgusted by the senseless greed.
Poor babee Sunday, rest peacefully bb girl♥️
Those complaining about headstone mostly in Africa they don't mark tomb they use wooden cross,written name year of death and birth and after some time it rots or eaten by aunts and it remains unmarked forever
@@sartajaziz5930 So gay
@@moptopzzz8076 shut up
Let's cut to the chase here. Should have the land lord posted about the possible exposure to lead poisoning given the age of the building. Of course. But, where was children's mom at when she's eating paint chips off of porch to an extent where she died?
well according to your logic the Law/regulation wont be required If mothers are suppose to keep an eye on the child all the time.
Its a fact of life for children to try to eat random stuff. You jump to an awful lot of conclusions given you don't consider she tried and stopped her only after starting eating the chips. Once the process starts and you catch the child you just caught them after they started. Have children and maybe you'll understand.
Some of the comments 💔
Perhaps tradition does not do markets or grave stones like we do here. I can’t imagine in the Sudan this is done.
Why is Sundays grave unmarked?
Because her mother doesn't care..
All the kids on this program who are getting molested and killed by people close to them or coming right into the homes harming them and some of you choose to critique about a headstone. It's a waste of money in my opinion. I would make one from scratch with love. We know why these hateful, pathetic comments are here. Some people need some self evaluation.
I am sure the mother would have signed the documents legitimately simply because she doesn’t seem like someone able to understand a warning a about lead poisoning.
Some people can not expell certain things as normal bodies do. Perhaps, I thought, her body was holding onto the lead.
My body doesn't properly expell lithium, it almost killed me.
9:37 Had this incompetent tech actually done her job, instead of trying to play detective, then the answer would've come back quite quickly! But Karen there was just so sure that this was a case of intentional poisoning and she wanted to be the person who cornered them. Absolutely pathetic and aggravating!
As a licensed real estate agent in Florida the lead base paint disclosure is for homes built in 1978 or before not 1977. A year might make a difference in someone's life, look it up online and don't believe the guy at 15:20 ... Seems like a little fact checking could have went a long way
Isn't 1977 before 1978?
What are you even saying?
They aren't in Florida. They were in New Hampshire. Different states have different laws.
@@tracykelly1167 hahaha right wtf
Wow no body realized that in the 2 cases? May be you presented a fact which was never disputed in the video. The agent himself did not realized that and made fake notices, his lawyers did not realize it as well.
Sunday should have a marked grave.
That's a baby slap on the wrist
Why is Sunday Abeck's grave unmarked? They should have to pay for that!
They gave her 3/4 of a million, you think the least she would do is buy her kid a tombstone, nope moves to Tennessee 🤦
@@pauls3117 Valid point...
I had the same question. The family could at least got her a tombstone. They got a huge amount of money from her death. Poor baby..
Let's not be quick to judge. Different cultures, different customs. I'm an African and tombstones are not a priority for some tribes, especially if the family are Muslims. Sudanese are predominantly Muslims. The Muslims believe that Allah wills and gives us babies. He can take back anytime he wants. No need for elaborate tombstones or adoration of the dead.
In same Africa, some tribes, especially the Ashantis of Ghana would go all out to adore and worship their dead relatives. They make elaborate tombstones, sometimes put up a whole building as tombstone for their dearly departed. It all boils down to culture and customs. We should not be quick to judge!!!
@@alexaddo4993 Thank you, Alex. I did not think about the cultural differences. I was only thinking from my limited perspective. Upon reflexion, I see that it was the decision for the family to make, not the property management, nor even us as outsiders. I do know that, no matter where the body is laid, the child is in her mother's heart, always.
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The mom should have watched the child better. Plus maybe have fed her better
15 months? A travesty!
To be honest this was a little bit of a deeper episode.
The landlord got a punishment I think deserving of what he did as he didn't premeditate or actually intend the child to die himself. What he really did was take advantage of a family who was fleeing a bad situation by putting them into a place he would likely have not been able to rent otherwise. Granted this is taking advantage of their family and should be punished, but its not intentionally murderous.
I believe that Sunday's mother was responsible only partially for what happened because the paint would likely not have been ingested if she was keeping a closer eye on Sunday, HOWEVER, with the context of moving from Sudan during a civil war, multiple children, and the challenges that come from learning a different culture I believe that care should be taken to make sure that their family are able to get all of their needs taken care of food wise, and living wise by a person who is familiar with the area.
So I do think this case does say something of note that we can do better as a country on. When immigrants are fleeing truly desperate situations like war that have the possibility of death their well being should probably ensured at least until they are able to begin moving forward with a new life. Otherwise, you may have stuff like this case here.
Considering their circumstances, where else where they going to live? It was probably the only building with openings, and was what they could afford. I think even if an interpreter read the disclosure & she signed it, the outcome would have been the same. Her daughter would have still eaten the paint chips.
Stop using your brain like a can lid for your damn brain..an interpreter is government assured..check embassies. Its not about affordability
Yeah. They should just make it a requirement that the landlord make the property save. Like they said, a couple hundred dollars could’ve saved her life, so why not enforce them to just spend the couple hundred dollars to begin with and remove the risk
What a stupid comment
All parents know little children put things into their mouth, it's not exclusive to starved African children. If you KNEW there was poisonous chips of paint you'd watch your child a lot more closely, and not let them eat chips of paint that are otherwise mostly harmless.
@@davisj3920 Why spend hundreds of dollars when you don't have to? Notice none of the other tenants felt compelled to eat paint and none of the other tenants suffered lead poisoning. It never should have been an issue because no one in their right mind eats paint. I bet if the kid locked herself in the complex's dryer, you'd blame the landlord for not telling people to not lock themselves in the dryer.
How sad!