@@IslaRoseAtkinsonit doesn't matter if he destroyed his life? True, it is still murder. But to be blunt it's arguable if this dude deserved to live. Honestly, the killer should get maybe 5 years, tops. Some ppl have the idea that all human life is valuable. Not really. Im aware this may sound a tad psychopathic.... Well, I dunno. I'm hardly the only person that thinks this turd had it coming.
No one denies that killing is against the law and deserves punishment. Having said that, there are all kinds of murderers and victims. Here, my sympathy is actually for the murderer whose friend scammed him out of his life saving which is devastating to not only him but also his family.
Killing is just Plain WRONG and not the Solution to what an Attorney could've helped him handle. There was plenty of evidence that the Guy ripped him off and ripped off so many Clients. He would've been the one sitting in Prison.
@@TheBrownIsland if course killing was the wrong way to go about it, but were the practices illegal or just scummy? Besides, attorneys are expensive and he had no money.
He is a hero in my eyes. He saved many more people from getting scammed by the dead man. May the "victim" roast in pieces. I'm glad the rest of him was never found. He deserved what he got.
The law says we can't kill people but we should be surely be careful of such people who scam people there should be strict laws and life imprisonment for people who do scams like vijay malya etc
I have mixed feelings about Zachary doing what he did. On one hand I understand his enragement and wanting to take care of the con “friend” but in the end it destroyed his own life and his family’s. And he didn’t get any money back :(
@@magicshop518 yes! I feel shit lyk this should be shown leniency lyk infidelity in marriage, it should be infidelity in trust;money I was scared shitless I was going to be homeless and die broke this man scarred me so yeah I see why ppl flip out and go insane to murder that man played with alot of people's lives; family;money; AND TRUST
The thing that gets me is every time someone passes the lie detector the investigators say that can be beat and is irrelevant. However if someone fails one then they are automatically guilty in the investigators eyes.
I think lie detector tests are completely useless and add no value whatsoever to an investigation. Watching FF and seeing whether someone passes or fails has no statistical correlation to guilt or innocence.
As a police officer, I refused to take a lie detector throughout my career. The worst thing to do is take one when your innocent then refuse later. If your consistent, they cant use it against you.
Best crime thriller serial which is not only addictive but lnformative also.narrator Peter Thomas was best ever story teller with a very clear soothing voice . May his soul rest in peace.
@@IslaRoseAtkinson It does a little bit though, if someone destroys your life what's left afterwards? In many ways having your life destroyed is very equivalent to not having a life at all, but still breathing anyway. So I'm not sure this situation was something salvageable, theres a lot of cases where stuff happens and its not salvaged because there's just nothing to be done.
@@IslaRoseAtkinsonAre you the crook’s family? Because though I don’t condone murder the murdered was the most horrible person and he pushed the guy to the limit. It’s easy to judge him when you’re not on his shoes.
It is not a story of jelousy and greed but one of desperation and revenge. Had Michael given the money back to his friend or had he not wasted them on reckless investments, he would be alive now.
@@deeplife9654 I am not justifying anything, far from me to do that. My comment refers to the phrase used at the start of the video when the narrator says it is a story of jelousy and greed. I am only refering to what this story really is, desperation and revenge, quite different states of mind.
I have no sympathy for perpetrator of mishandling investors funds. These are called “white collar crimes” yet they often destroy peoples lives and it would have been much less cruel to have killed the victims. If perpetrators are prosecuted it’s a slap on the wrist and victims often suffer long beyond the sentence of perpetrator. Give them this and hopefully word will get around. Good luck waiting on the wheels if justice to prosecute white collar criminals. Research other cases such as this…
@@glengilbow8068 I agree with you that white collar crimes are not less hideous and definitely not less devastating to their victims than any other crimes and yet the sentencing is like a slap on the wrist.
Moral to this story: never, ever engage in illegal business with other people’s money, it is not advisable and can cost your life. You never know how people would react under extreme distress in certain certain situations. Better safe than sorry.
I don't understand the life in prison sentence. To be ripped off on such a huge scale isn't exactly a walk in the park. I wonder how all those jurors would react if it happened to them. Driving elite cars and living in big houses on other people's money will get you killed.
yep it's crazy to me that "crime of passion" charges only apply to romantic situations, and not things like this, where the killer's life was totally ruined by the "victim".
So he got himself killed. You don’t mess with the livelihoods of others, especially your own people who shared the same struggle as you. This guy was preying on his own people.
That’s true. Who buys (with investors money) his wife a Mercedes when his “friend “ is loosing his home. He had zero sympathy for his friend , not even the children🤦🏽♀️🙆🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
EDITED He hurt people. He robbed other Russian immigrants. That was mean. He was a very bad man. END EDIT Better? It's what I said in the first place, but I see how you might have misunderstood.
@@taffykins2745 They were Michael's fellow Russian emigrés. That is what the commenter was talking about as his people...at least that's how I interpreted it.
I guess Michael was not a good broker after all playing with people’s money. He wanted to be rich at all costs. Had he been an honest broker, he will be alive today. Moral to this story: Never play dirty with other people’s money, it can be deadly.
Yeah Yu a investor and I invested my money/shares with Yu and I see Yu buying stuff /spending money and I'm not benefiting; making money/investments; getting materialistic things cars, NEW HOUSE, BILLS ECT...yeah I would be LIVID!!! ANGRY!!! AND if I was about to loose my home, can't take of myself, family, our lives yeah I'd be on the verge/dawn of fucking murder to whoever I THOUGHT I could trust wit the money i gave him smh that would drive someone madly insane nolie/nocap 🤌😅(&Russians DONT play especially when it comes to there MONEY;BEING SCAMMED/ROBBED; LIED2 🙄😅He should of known that🤦🏾♀️😒😬)
Im not let me say it again NOT justifying murder but if you make your living by doing Unethical or dubious practices concerning someone else's money then you too may end up in a tarp in a pile of discarded Christmas trees.
THANK YOU! People will put you in the ground behind playing with their money. Not saying it's "okay"....just saying I understand it. I understand it completely.
That's because a lot of them are career criminals and know how to dissapear when they have the money. But sometimes they mess up. Here in the Netherlands two big scammers have been killed recently. Festim Lato was kidnapped and they found him back in little pieces and the other was a former mossad agent, who was shot a month ago in Amstelveen.
The defense attorney in this episode is on of the most renowned(and best) defense lawyers in Minnesota. He is also featured in the Dateline Episode(can’t remember the title) about the Grand Forks ND Halloween party murder where he secured an acquittal for the defendant.
For the wife to ask and why they don't have a Mercedes-Benz or why they don't have a big house maybe she needs to get her own job so she could pay for it herself I can't imagine how annoying a patronising that must be for a man that's providing when you've lost basically $150,000 and your wife is complaining to you about why you don't have the luxuries that the Dinkleberg has😂
20:52-Now there's an honest statement; rare to see a lawyer be that uh...honest? haha. Just comes off as unexpectedly blunt lol. Those moments in this show was what made it great and what Peter Thomas did cannot be re-done. Forget the ep, but a pathologist said something similar about crime and it was pretty funny how he put it.
The lawyer featured is one of the most well known(and best) defense lawyers in the state of Minnesota. He was also featured in the Dateline episode about the Grand Forks ND Halloween murder where he won an acquittal for the defendant.
@@survivingsicklecell1732 Well, I watched them all and I still remember most of the outcomes, so I need to wait a few more years to watch them all again! :p
The man snapped when he couldn’t make his bills. He trusted the wrong person! I make no excuses for his actions! Good police work put the case together!
The American dream turned into an American nightmare for this Russian broker. But this is what happens when you play dirty games with other people’s money.
Sorry to say but Michael was a crook, I'm not justifying what Zachary did but Michael kind of deserved what he got. Also on that note Zachary hung himself in prison in 2010 at the age of 59.
This is one of the few cases where I don't really feel bad for the victim. You don't fuck with people's money like that. I'm not saying Zachary was right for murdering Michael but I do understand why he did it.
Two days passed. Then a workman at a city compost pile saw a flock of crows hovering around some discarded Christmas trees. And I looked in there, and it was quite obvious it was a bent section of a human leg all the way up to the hip. And I just thought, "wow, this guy must have been a pretty big guy. Investors also found a human torso. The head and the hands were missing, so it looked like someone was trying to get rid of anything that could be identified, as far ad identifying the body. But they did find the end of a fingertip. When police ran the fingerprint, they discovered it matched the fingerprint of Michael Prozumenshikov's brokerage license.💛
After my little research on Zachary Persitz, who was convicted of dismembering his stockbroker and fellow Russian immigrant Michael Prozumenshikov, I found out that he hung himself at the Stillwater prison in late 2015.
I'm sitting on my foam mattress. Night Owls are hooting outside. I thought I'd watch some Forensic Files. STAY WARM. 🔥 Love and light from Gore, Oklahoma.❤💡💛
@@eurekasquared9853thanks for commenting under my comment. And I'm SORRY I didn't reply back. I love your commenting under mine. And I HOPE things are going well in Duncan. Love and light from Gore, Oklahoma.❤️🔥
@@morehyeshiahtorahlessons5545 if someone is owed their owed! It only matters with the particulars in court. Either way a person shouldn't lose their life over money
You say why did they arrest the killer? So you think murder is exceptable? I know I know you're gonna say he deserved it and you may be right, but why do you think breaking one law is 👌 but others are wrong?
@@danthompson5797 People should have known that Madoff was a fraud...some were told. What should be the penalty for doing fraud? Madoff got 150 years and is now dead. If I trust somebody is it my fault if I get swindled?
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Murder is against the law. You can't take the law into your own hands. Learn it Live it
The sad thing is Zachary did a favor to the community. Michael was basically a lower version of Bernie Madoff. It’s sad that he died in prison after serving about 18 years. He certainly had to go to prison, but he definitely would not have received a life sentence if I were on that jury.
@@VincentWilliams007 Agreed. Michael stole over 100K from Zachary. And it’s probably much higher than that given that the show always is presented in favor of the victims of violent crime, even if they are not someone that deserves sympathy. Given that Zachary had no criminal background at all, I am stunned he got life in prison. I’m not sure how the laws work in that state, but passion provocation should have been a viable defense.
I love Forensic Files! ❤ It advices you to be careful in the REAL WORLD! And I feel bad for people who went through these.. People live once and in the spiritual world they don't feel nor taste anything. 😔
It would have been a hung jury had I been a one. Anyone who swindle people out of their hard earned money solely for greed deserve whatsoever they get when their crime catches up with them. People have taken their own lives under the pressure of losing all they work for so I count it as merely self defense if they take out the one that intentionally & unnecessarily place them in that predicament.
I can'r say Zachary is to be blamed for all of what happened and killed his friend. Losing $150,000 is not a joke. Some people even kill for less than Thousand.
If you feel someone owes you a lot of money, life changing money, killing that person will ensure at least one thing. You never get your money back and as a bonus you end up in prison for life. I fully understand the anger of the investor here. But he should have just stuck with the threats to the stock broker to somehow get his money back. Maybe the broker would have figured out a way to recover at least some of the lost money. But killing him is basically flushing down the toilet any chance of getting any of the money back and maybe your freedom.
Very sad. Murdered guy was ripping people off. And the old story. Don’t trust all your money to one person. Nowadays you’re better off to invest it yourself
Its a shame Michael could have been more honest and responsible with his friends money. After doing so well to get to the USA and getting his license. Then he died from being a jerk
I agree. Even though they may not be like Michael here, but they always talked you into buying something that gives them a bigger commission. Their interest is not for you, it's for themselves.
One of the rare cases where I sympathize with the murderer. Dont con people and dont play with peoples money/ livelihood. I saw a man at his wits end that just snapped.
I wonder what the killer would’ve done if Michael had blurted out his name and said he was holding him hostage at gunpoint when his boss was on the phone.
This episode was a trip for me. I live in MN, go to that restaurant Moscow on the Hill often, box at a gym next door, and go to that Russian Museum. We have a surprising amount of immigrants from the former Soviet Union.
LMAO when Zina, one of his former clients, says he showed off his wealth and bragged about driving a Mercedes. But then she herself "conveniently" broadcasts on this national TV program how she also drives one. Yeah, right, who cares? LOL
Great Job from the investigators, prosecutors and as well forensic science, he committed a terrible crime but on the other hand you can understand why he did kill him, using he's friends money to accommodate he's life style. Even if he could have not killed him someone's else would have done it. I rather not be rich than going out there scumming people.
Destroying someone's life can be worse than murder
It doesn't matter if he destroyed his life it's still murder, He could have confronted him or just hurt him
@@IslaRoseAtkinsonit doesn't matter if he destroyed his life? True, it is still murder. But to be blunt it's arguable if this dude deserved to live. Honestly, the killer should get maybe 5 years, tops. Some ppl have the idea that all human life is valuable. Not really. Im aware this may sound a tad psychopathic.... Well, I dunno. I'm hardly the only person that thinks this turd had it coming.
If you think you can trust a Russian bathroom genitor with your $ then you have serious problems.
Correct. Similar to losing someone through persistent adultery; dealing with some situations are more bitter than dealing with death.
@@IslaRoseAtkinsonUnless you’re in his shoes , who knows how anybody would react . Not saying that murder was the answer however …..
It's better to be poor and surrounded by friends rather than rich and surrounded by enemies.
better not be poor at all
BEAUTIFUL KITTY !!! ❤️❤️🐈⬛🐈⬛
Nah let's not glorify poverty
U can be rich and sorrounded by friends,problem is how U identify enemies and friends.do not be stupid.
It’s not better to be poor…I’m not wealthy, but there was a time when I was poor, and it sucked…
Love Forensics Files, my bedtime story every night❤️ Peter Thomas ( RIP) is the best story time teller ever!
What will we do when we finish watching each episode 5 times
@@MG-dj7jv Rinse, and repeat
I remember being literally depressed after finishing watching the series. It was a nightly ritual for 6 months ❤️💔
why 5ive ?? 🤔🙄
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No one denies that killing is against the law and deserves punishment.
Having said that, there are all kinds of murderers and victims.
Here, my sympathy is actually for the murderer whose friend scammed him out of his life saving which is devastating to not only him but also his family.
Killing is just Plain WRONG and not the Solution to what an Attorney could've helped him handle. There was plenty of evidence that the Guy ripped him off and ripped off so many Clients. He would've been the one sitting in Prison.
@@TheBrownIsland if course killing was the wrong way to go about it, but were the practices illegal or just scummy? Besides, attorneys are expensive and he had no money.
I felt same thing.
@@TheBrownIsland
Him sitting in prison doesn't get your life saving back.
Greed works both ways.
He is a hero in my eyes. He saved many more people from getting scammed by the dead man. May the "victim" roast in pieces. I'm glad the rest of him was never found. He deserved what he got.
As i was watching this episode i was like dame i would've killed him too loool.
The law says we can't kill people but we should be surely be careful of such people who scam people there should be strict laws and life imprisonment for people who do scams like vijay malya etc
I have mixed feelings about Zachary doing what he did. On one hand I understand his enragement and wanting to take care of the con “friend” but in the end it destroyed his own life and his family’s. And he didn’t get any money back :(
¡ I agree with you, MICHAEL GOT WHAT HE DESERVED !, and ZACHARY SHOULD BE RELEASED !
@@magicshop518 yes! I feel shit lyk this should be shown leniency lyk infidelity in marriage, it should be infidelity in trust;money I was scared shitless I was going to be homeless and die broke this man scarred me so yeah I see why ppl flip out and go insane to murder that man played with alot of people's lives; family;money; AND TRUST
The thing that gets me is every time someone passes the lie detector the investigators say that can be beat and is irrelevant. However if someone fails one then they are automatically guilty in the investigators eyes.
I think lie detector tests are completely useless and add no value whatsoever to an investigation. Watching FF and seeing whether someone passes or fails has no statistical correlation to guilt or innocence.
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As a police officer, I refused to take a lie detector throughout my career. The worst thing to do is take one when your innocent then refuse later. If your consistent, they cant use it against you.
Junk science
That's cos the police will ALWAYS look for an arrest over justice. All they want is for the job to be over so they don't have to hear it.
Zachary Persitz hung himself in prison in 2010. After being there for almost 20 years. Guess he couldn't bear it anymore. Such a sad case.
@proud how did you wear about that?
@@johnoffier4397 Google it my friend. It’ll pop right up.
@@johnoffier4397--- from news articles found using Google
How is it sad?
He WAS a good looking man......sad
Best crime thriller serial which is not only addictive but lnformative also.narrator Peter Thomas was best ever story teller with a very clear soothing voice . May his soul rest in peace.
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@@cpfamily6431 This is not about Koalas this is about murder
First time in my whole life I feel sorry for the murder and hoped he wasn’t gonna get caught. Michael got what he was looking for.
If you think you can trust a Russian bathroom genitor with your $ then you have serious problems.
It doesn't matter if he destroyed his life it's still murder, He could have confronted him or just hurt him
@@IslaRoseAtkinson It does a little bit though, if someone destroys your life what's left afterwards?
In many ways having your life destroyed is very equivalent to not having a life at all, but still breathing anyway.
So I'm not sure this situation was something salvageable, theres a lot of cases where stuff happens and its not salvaged because there's just nothing to be done.
Same here good riddance😂
He didn't care - that leaving blood for professional cleaners to clean...The ending talking about perfect crime is completely out of place
I love going to sleep watching this show. The music and narration is amazing.
Same. Peter’s voice is very soothing
It really is! Peter is the BEST narrator, or, should I say, was (passed away). He worked as a narrator and voice over person for many years. So good.
All these money crooks should be gotten rid of. Don't feel bad one bit for the dead guy. Other guy deserves a hero award
Amen
The other guy didn't get a hero award he committed suicide
It doesn't matter if he destroyed his life it's still murder, He could have confronted him or just hurt him
@@IslaRoseAtkinsonAre you the crook’s family? Because though I don’t condone murder the murdered was the most horrible person and he pushed the guy to the limit. It’s easy to judge him when you’re not on his shoes.
@@Memg007 I’m just saying since it’s still against the law
It is not a story of jelousy and greed but one of desperation and revenge. Had Michael given the money back to his friend or had he not wasted them on reckless investments, he would be alive now.
You are saying how he could prevented such matter . No acts can justify the act of such crime . Go to cops and then take legal action.
@@deeplife9654 I am not justifying anything, far from me to do that. My comment refers to the phrase used at the start of the video when the narrator says it is a story of jelousy and greed. I am only refering to what this story really is, desperation and revenge, quite different states of mind.
I have no sympathy for perpetrator of mishandling investors funds. These are called “white collar crimes” yet they often destroy peoples lives and it would have been much less cruel to have killed the victims. If perpetrators are prosecuted it’s a slap on the wrist and victims often suffer long beyond the sentence of perpetrator. Give them this and hopefully word will get around. Good luck waiting on the wheels if justice to prosecute white collar criminals. Research other cases such as this…
You cannot justify a murder by pointing out the victim's flaws and misdemeanors. Murder is always the worse crime and sin.
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I agree with you that white collar crimes are not less hideous and definitely not less devastating to their victims than any other crimes and yet the sentencing is like a slap on the wrist.
I dont know why, but when he said the dog was "usually very large" it made me laugh.
A single dog hair? I am laughing imagining my husky being on the scene. He would have left 1 million single white hairs
just FYI, the dog wasn't there, it was hair that was in the car, on the tarp he wrapped the body in. cheers DAWG
And 300 dark hairs 🐕🐶
I know right!
Literal millions like I might even start carrying around hair from my Huskies call it a just in case kind of thing.
Omg my husky sheds so much 😩
Moral to this story: never, ever engage in illegal business with other people’s money, it is not advisable and can cost your life. You never know how people would react under extreme distress in certain certain situations.
Better safe than sorry.
That’s right . The person who killed , the detective said after background check he can’t hurt fly
I don't understand the life in prison sentence. To be ripped off on such a huge scale isn't exactly a walk in the park. I wonder how all those jurors would react if it happened to them. Driving elite cars and living in big houses on other people's money will get you killed.
Yes.
yep it's crazy to me that "crime of passion" charges only apply to romantic situations, and not things like this, where the killer's life was totally ruined by the "victim".
Jurors have nothing to do with the sentence. Blame sentencing guidelines and/or the judges, who actually do have discretion in that area.
It doesn't matter if he destroyed his life it's still murder, He could have confronted him or just hurt him
Medical Detectives my favourite. Peter's narration and the entire production team makes every episode a hit!
The moment they mentioned luminol....I enternaly said " lit up like a Christmas tree" and was disappointed they didn't say it 😂😂😂
Yep cliche
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LOL>>>ME TOO!
Shame we missed the red trilobal carpet fibers
lmaoooooooo
So he got himself killed. You don’t mess with the livelihoods of others, especially your own people who shared the same struggle as you. This guy was preying on his own people.
That’s true. Who buys (with investors money) his wife a Mercedes when his “friend “ is loosing his home. He had zero sympathy for his friend , not even the children🤦🏽♀️🙆🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
Too greedy
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He hurt people. He robbed other Russian immigrants. That was mean. He was a very bad man.
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Better? It's what I said in the first place, but I see how you might have misunderstood.
@@taffykins2745 They were Michael's fellow Russian emigrés. That is what the commenter was talking about as his people...at least that's how I interpreted it.
@@deb6853 that's right.
I guess Michael was not a good broker after all playing with people’s money. He wanted to be rich at all costs. Had he been an honest broker, he will be alive today.
Moral to this story: Never play dirty with other people’s money, it can be deadly.
It doesn't matter if he destroyed his life it's still murder, He could have confronted him or just hurt him
In this case I kinda feel for the killer. Greedy con men destroy a lot of lives.
This is the only time I wanted the bad guy to win...this greedy bastard got exactly what he deserved
Yeah Yu a investor and I invested my money/shares with Yu and I see Yu buying stuff /spending money and I'm not benefiting; making money/investments; getting materialistic things cars, NEW HOUSE, BILLS ECT...yeah I would be LIVID!!! ANGRY!!! AND if I was about to loose my home, can't take of myself, family, our lives yeah I'd be on the verge/dawn of fucking murder to whoever I THOUGHT I could trust wit the money i gave him smh that would drive someone madly insane nolie/nocap 🤌😅(&Russians DONT play especially when it comes to there MONEY;BEING SCAMMED/ROBBED; LIED2 🙄😅He should of known that🤦🏾♀️😒😬)
G bi love
It doesn't matter if he destroyed his life it's still murder, He could have confronted him or just hurt him
I love this program it’s so educational to learn how to find out who’s the perpetrator
Always forensics do a great job.
Anyone feel sorry for the guy that killed the fake friend that spent $150,000?
Neh….good thing that someone stop this greedy pig otherwise we don’t know how many families will be destroyed losing money like this
Free my boi Zack. Imagine someone spending $120k of your hard earned money and thinking they can just walk away
@@dreamybull1509 he hung himself in 2010
I just laughed... unfortunately. For that you said he killed a "Fake friend".
@@DavidRGD well technically he isn’t someone you’d call your bestie. Here take my life savings and blow it on whatever your heart desires.😁😂
Im not let me say it again NOT justifying murder but if you make your living by doing Unethical or dubious practices concerning someone else's money then you too may end up in a tarp in a pile of discarded Christmas trees.
It's even in the old say that says never trust a human being.
Nah, sounds pretty justified to me
@@bigb6866 I see what you are saying for sure
True 💯
THANK YOU! People will put you in the ground behind playing with their money. Not saying it's "okay"....just saying I understand it. I understand it completely.
This is my first symphaty ever for the suspect. I feel bad for him had to kill like that then get jailed after he losses his money. Life isn’t fair.
I mean I feel bad for him some, but he gambled so much of his money in the stock market and expected things to work out. They're both guilty.
It doesn't matter if he destroyed his life it's still murder, He could have confronted him or just hurt him
So many scammers out there I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often
That's because a lot of them are career criminals and know how to dissapear when they have the money. But sometimes they mess up. Here in the Netherlands two big scammers have been killed recently. Festim Lato was kidnapped and they found him back in little pieces and the other was a former mossad agent, who was shot a month ago in Amstelveen.
What goes around comes around
Everyone who is thinking of ripping other people off should watch this episode
Can't disagree with ya. Dude, had it coming. "Several ppl said they wished they coulda done it." Damn
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Imagine being warned against going to someone's funeral; wonder how many had gone anyway?
This being a good example of only being interested in selfish ambitions, and not also looking out for the interests of others - Phil 2:3-4.
R.I.P. Zachary, you saved a lot of people money, and I'm sorry you took your life.
It doesn't matter if he destroyed his life it's still murder, He could have confronted him or just hurt him
This is one time where I felt bad for the guy who did the killing and not the crook who got killed.
It doesn't matter if he destroyed his life it's still murder, He could have confronted him or just hurt him
@@IslaRoseAtkinsonor have him arrested for fraud!
The defense attorney in this episode is on of the most renowned(and best) defense lawyers in Minnesota. He is also featured in the Dateline Episode(can’t remember the title) about the Grand Forks ND Halloween party murder where he secured an acquittal for the defendant.
I really don't think he was a danger to others. He killed a guy that absolutely destroyed his life.
I hate he had to lose his freedom by killing this con man but he saved many from being defrauded of their hard earned money!
I respect it!
Lesson 1: Don’t screw people over
For the wife to ask and why they don't have a Mercedes-Benz or why they don't have a big house maybe she needs to get her own job so she could pay for it herself I can't imagine how annoying a patronising that must be for a man that's providing when you've lost basically $150,000 and your wife is complaining to you about why you don't have the luxuries that the Dinkleberg has😂
Welcome to Russian women they are all like that
@@michaelmansini2307 you know all russian women do you? lol
He didn't tell his wife the money was gone!🙄🤦♀️
“Dinkleberg” is crazy work 😭 not Timmy Turner’s neighbor and his daddy’s rivalry with him
20:52-Now there's an honest statement; rare to see a lawyer be that uh...honest? haha. Just comes off as unexpectedly blunt lol. Those moments in this show was what made it great and what Peter Thomas did cannot be re-done. Forget the ep, but a pathologist said something similar about crime and it was pretty funny how he put it.
Thomas was born and raised here in Pensacola, Florida. He was the best !
The lawyer featured is one of the most well known(and best) defense lawyers in the state of Minnesota. He was also featured in the Dateline episode about the Grand Forks ND Halloween murder where he won an acquittal for the defendant.
He wasn't killed because of jealousy, he was killed because he was a thief and a crook.
150 0000 to 30 000 ridiculous
there is a difference between a robber and a thief
Agree, it's not about jealousy, the murder victim is a crook.
@@CatBrash crook?
@@ramdeihutheram432 no
@Cat Brash robber and thief are synonyms. They mean the same thing; someone who steals
This is one of the episodes where I just can’t feel bad for the victim. I would not have given the killer life in this case.
I’d say killing a guy because he owes you money pretty much guarantees you won’t get it back, and now he’s locked away forever. Not a smart play.
And now he's dead, since April 2015. By suicide.
For the first time ever, I feel bad for the plaintiff and his family😢 it’s really sad😟
Thr defendant
The victim got what he sowed.
It doesn't matter if he destroyed his life it's still murder, He could have confronted him or just hurt him
Why am I hooked on this channel, am I the only person who watch these before bed every day
Nope. I watched them all as my bedtime stories a few years ago. :)
@@tookitogo so do you still watch them? Because u said a few years ago
@@survivingsicklecell1732 Well, I watched them all and I still remember most of the outcomes, so I need to wait a few more years to watch them all again! :p
The Pru-Bache Murder: The Fast Life and Grisly Death of a Millionaire Stockbroker
Great book!
It must be horrible to die this way. This should be a warning that messing with others money never ends well.
Just ask Alec M.
"He drive Mercedes, big deal I drive Mercedes too".....Big deal lady
Zina had to let em know: I drive a Mercedes too, AND…. 💁🏼♀️
The man snapped when he couldn’t make his bills. He trusted the wrong person! I make no excuses for his actions!
Good police work put the case together!
That is y they say never trust a human being and the love of money is the beginning of evil..
damn, that is the job of Police will yahs 😐🤪
Stock investment is the same as sports gambling.
I've been watching this playlist of all 13 seasons while at work the past couple weeks. Can't believe how fast I blew through the first 200 episodes.
That would be addicting
The American dream turned into an American nightmare for this Russian broker. But this is what happens when you play dirty games with other people’s money.
Well said. Everything has consequence.
Sad better to be clean
A nightmare from which he'll never awaken.
I would call that justified killing. Stole everything from this man and many more and lived high on the hog. Karma will come knocking
No one I mean no one will fade the voice of Peter Thomas for centuries to come! RIP Peter what a human being!!
PETER THE 👌 👍 BEST.LIKE 🐅 🐯 🐅 TIGER PETER THOMAS
how is this greed? he was upset! 100 grand to 30 is a big deal... revenge kill
It doesn't matter if he destroyed his life it's still murder, He could have confronted him or just hurt him
For buying his 18% return BS. If you buy that, and you have any experience, you KNOW it's illegal. That's greed c
Fuget about ittt
$150 000. Zachary couldn't even make his mortgage payments
@@g.borgia5100 He still had at least $30k, which is more than what most people have available. 🙄🤦♀️
Sorry to say but Michael was a crook, I'm not justifying what Zachary did but Michael kind of deserved what he got.
Also on that note Zachary hung himself in prison in 2010 at the age of 59.
Fr!!! He shouldn’t have played with peoples money
@@Ballsy_ I agree, play stupid games you win stupid prizes.
That’s sad.
@@frankboff1260 it is but still
The only beneficiary in this case is probably Michael’s wife.
This is one of the few cases where I don't really feel bad for the victim. You don't fuck with people's money like that. I'm not saying Zachary was right for murdering Michael but I do understand why he did it.
Two days passed. Then a workman at a city compost pile saw a flock of crows hovering around some discarded Christmas trees. And I looked in there, and it was quite obvious it was a bent section of a human leg all the way up to the hip. And I just thought, "wow, this guy must have been a pretty big guy. Investors also found a human torso. The head and the hands were missing, so it looked like someone was trying to get rid of anything that could be identified, as far ad identifying the body. But they did find the end of a fingertip. When police ran the fingerprint, they discovered it matched the fingerprint of Michael Prozumenshikov's brokerage license.💛
You can’t play with people’s money
That’s why I never borrow at all if I don’t have the money I don’t have the money it is what it is.
The woman asking”Why don’t we have a big house, why don’t we have a Mercedes”…. Poor woman! Such an emphasis on material things……
well, what do you expect in America..
She was supposed to be married to Michael. They both into materialistic things and don’t care how they accumulate them.
@@stfuplsok They're Russian though. Materialism isn't just an American thing, doofus.
After my little research on Zachary Persitz, who was convicted of dismembering his stockbroker and fellow Russian immigrant Michael Prozumenshikov, I found out that he hung himself at the Stillwater prison in late 2015.
I feel sorry for him.
No, he did it in June 2010.
I'm sitting on my foam mattress. Night Owls are hooting outside. I thought I'd watch some Forensic Files. STAY WARM. 🔥 Love and light from Gore, Oklahoma.❤💡💛
I’m from Duncan.
@@eurekasquared9853thanks for commenting under my comment. And I'm SORRY I didn't reply back. I love your commenting under mine. And I HOPE things are going well in Duncan. Love and light from Gore, Oklahoma.❤️🔥
I love love the narrator voice is so calm
So true. Even though he is talking about murder.
You play , you pay.
Fuget about ittt
He should've gotten one year probation.
Say that after someone close to you owes someone else and they end up stanking
@@peytonmanning7326 It depends on why somebody owes somebody. Was it a loan that was not paid or?
You're sick
@@morehyeshiahtorahlessons5545 if someone is owed their owed! It only matters with the particulars in court. Either way a person shouldn't lose their life over money
The killer could have come up with 100 better gameplans that would have gotten him the money first 🤑
..this is the best crime forensic channel..
Why did they arrest the killer?the victim was a crook.
You say why did they arrest the killer? So you think murder is exceptable? I know I know you're gonna say he deserved it and you may be right, but why do you think breaking one law is 👌 but others are wrong?
@@danthompson5797 People should have known that Madoff was a fraud...some were told. What should be the penalty for doing fraud? Madoff got 150 years and is now dead. If I trust somebody is it my fault if I get swindled?
Murder is against the law. You can't take the law into your own hands. Learn it Live it
The sad thing is Zachary did a favor to the community. Michael was basically a lower version of Bernie Madoff. It’s sad that he died in prison after serving about 18 years. He certainly had to go to prison, but he definitely would not have received a life sentence if I were on that jury.
Same here. Ten years max. With parole after 2 days.
@@VincentWilliams007 Agreed. Michael stole over 100K from Zachary. And it’s probably much higher than that given that the show always is presented in favor of the victims of violent crime, even if they are not someone that deserves sympathy. Given that Zachary had no criminal background at all, I am stunned he got life in prison. I’m not sure how the laws work in that state, but passion provocation should have been a viable defense.
I love Forensic Files! ❤ It advices you to be careful in the REAL WORLD! And I feel bad for people who went through these.. People live once and in the spiritual world they don't feel nor taste anything. 😔
It would have been a hung jury had I been a one. Anyone who swindle people out of their hard earned money solely for greed deserve whatsoever they get when their crime catches up with them. People have taken their own lives under the pressure of losing all they work for so I count it as merely self defense if they take out the one that intentionally & unnecessarily place them in that predicament.
So you're unable/unwilling to be an I partial member of the jury? That's mature
@@Vaginaninja Your question don't make any sense. I would have ruled/ judged "not guilty!"
Yes. Not guilty by reason of Insanity.
I can'r say Zachary is to be blamed for all of what happened and killed his friend. Losing $150,000 is not a joke. Some people even kill for less than Thousand.
If your own people can't trust you... noone can. That's all there is to it.
If you feel someone owes you a lot of money, life changing money, killing that person will ensure at least one thing. You never get your money back and as a bonus you end up in prison for life. I fully understand the anger of the investor here. But he should have just stuck with the threats to the stock broker to somehow get his money back. Maybe the broker would have figured out a way to recover at least some of the lost money. But killing him is basically flushing down the toilet any chance of getting any of the money back and maybe your freedom.
Ikr :I
That's a public service as far as I'm concerned. Just think about all the people who DIDN'T lose their retirements because of this guy.
Very sad. Murdered guy was ripping people off. And the old story. Don’t trust all your money to one person. Nowadays you’re better off to invest it yourself
We hear too many stock brokers scamming their own friends and families.
Amazing job
Thomas was the best narrator ever.
Equally Robert Stack and Bill Kurtis!!!
The murderer should not be punished. he saved many others' life by quitting this scammer's activities
Too bad you and I weren't on the jury.
Its a shame Michael could have been more honest and responsible with his friends money. After doing so well to get to the USA and getting his license. Then he died from being a jerk
There are a lot money to be made in America 🇺🇸. He followed the American dream . Like all the lobbyists doing by ripping off Americans
A jerk is too kind of an adjective.
Insanity! I would have bought that argument.
It isn't money that is the root of all evil, it is greed
The prosecutor and the interviewer at the end
The victim wasnt really a victim in this case 🙄
Those who were affected by him should have come forward and pleaded for lesser sentence of the murderer
He was a victim... of his own making!👌
It's better to trade stocks themselves after learning the stock market. All brokers have similar modus apprendi
I agree. Even though they may not be like Michael here, but they always talked you into buying something that gives them a bigger commission. Their interest is not for you, it's for themselves.
The victim in this case was actually the killer Persitz,the poor guy got scammed of his hard earned money as did many others by Prozumenshikov.
That's right. A flock of vulcher crows around a bunch of discarded Christmas trees is not a positive sign! Crows are not interested in dead trees!
Two episodes in a row where I have zero sympathy for the "victim".
One of the rare cases where I sympathize with the murderer. Dont con people and dont play with peoples money/ livelihood. I saw a man at his wits end that just snapped.
Being cocky got him killed. Money money momey man. U can meet your maker like everyone else can.
If they would have had a wood chipper, this would have been "Fargo."
There is a Forensic Episode with a wood chipper. “The Disappearance of Helle Crafts.” I believe that was what led to the idea for Fargo.
@@colinzwiebel6770 and i think that was actually the first FF ep subject too!
R.I.P Peter Thomas: the best narrator ever
I wonder what the killer would’ve done if Michael had blurted out his name and said he was holding him hostage at gunpoint when his boss was on the phone.
I do,too. If Michael had somehow survived, he would have wound up without his job.
This episode was a trip for me. I live in MN, go to that restaurant Moscow on the Hill often, box at a gym next door, and go to that Russian Museum. We have a surprising amount of immigrants from the former Soviet Union.
A rare case where I don't feel bad for the murder victim
Ironically I’m driving towards Wayzata MN now
Rocky Fontana. Great name for a cop 👮♂️
Michael might be one of the few victims I’ve seen in any true crime that got less sympathy than the perpetrator!
I love how anyone person can come to my beautiful country and make it just as much as I can!!!
Whenever I want to get to sleep I tune into F.F. One of my favorite shows
This happens when greed comes into the picture.
Fuget about ittt
LMAO when Zina, one of his former clients, says he showed off his wealth and bragged about driving a Mercedes. But then she herself "conveniently" broadcasts on this national TV program how she also drives one. Yeah, right, who cares? LOL
Great Job from the investigators, prosecutors and as well forensic science, he committed a terrible crime but on the other hand you can understand why he did kill him, using he's friends money to accommodate he's life style. Even if he could have not killed him someone's else would have done it. I rather not be rich than going out there scumming people.
". . a flock of crows"? A murder of crows, especially so in this instance.