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optimus prime in the first movie:life is beautiful! optimus prime in literally every other movie:Give me your face. Piece of tin. Time to find out*literally declines an offer of peace*.
very original of you, you people really forget how fucking mental these decepticons are they kill humans for shits and giggles and you expect prime to just let them live?
@@ox_trueprotagonistchrisred9085 well in generation 1 transformers it didn't but they messed up the next chapter before it even started with galvatron and rodimus prime with unicron
7 years old me watching optimus prime head stabing,shooting head without mercy,tear apart face,take off shockwave eye,taking off fallen face,hook megatron face with axe untill ripped off from body and stabbed lockdown until split : *this is fine*
"Freedom is the right of all sentient beings." What Optimus meant by that was freedom of the humans from suffering the Decepticons' tyranny or prevent the fate of Cybertron happen again on Earth. "We cannot let the humans pay for our mistake!"
@@hideofreakingkojima5457 freedom is the right of all sentient beings so he can't put them in prison so War Crime Time still better than the other Optimist with their child soldiers Shia LaBeouf was and his twenties
We know how the alternate ending for Dark Of The Moon Megatron was sincere, but here we don't. Megatron could have been lulling OP into lowering his guard, or hoping to trick him to let him leave then Megs would strike back another day. For Megatron he can't be trusted, not after all he's done to Earth and Cybertron.
TF3: "The day will never come when we forsake this planet and its people" TF4: "We're leaving this planet and it's people" Beautiful character development
The alliance also fought alongside them as allies, before turning into a corporate-greedy and revenge-seeking task force that hunted down, betrayed, and fucking MURDERED each and every one of the autobots (who had been protecting them for 7 years from something that wasn't going to leave the Earth if they left) until only 5 of them were left. People blame Prime, but the humans fucking deserved the Chicago attack and what happened in TF4.
@@jamesr5436 would a drone talk ,would a drone be worried about other drones, would a drone grunt ,would a drone feel pain, You get my point they are not drones So Optimus in tfp is definitely more innocent than the movies but he's not completely innocent
It gets worse when you find out Bayverse Prime almost got friendly fired *MULTIPLE* times in the comics because soldiers who didn't know better would think he was a 'Con after seeing his brutality in combat.
To be fair, when you're fighting mass murderers, terrorists and torturers: that's the best course of action. What, you want him to get all Steven Universe with a literal Robot Hitler?
"We don't need you anymore. We can create you" This line should hits hard, realising what you've done so far was only to be disregarded and instead used as a "research material" At least in the end the bald guy turned to good
He is prime dude not a teenager. Primes know how to control their emotions but bayverse prime is nowhere close to it. I wonder if he had beared matrix of leadership. It doesn't look like he had
@@ryandean9171 I honestly think that Megatron was trying to trick Optimus into turning around so he could blast him in the back and tear him apart like he just did to Sentinel moments earlier. With the tone of his voice I didn’t even know he was offering a truce the first time I watched the movie.
@@sergeantwasp6018 that's very much in line with Megatron's character, he knew he had absolutely no chance against Prime in his state, so he'd have to trick him in order to win.
0:40 imagine finishing a long day in the Factory, being paid a few US Dollars, driving home and suddenly you’re in Heaven or Hell thanks to an 85 ft-tall motorized unicycle with authority issues
I like to think of Bayverse Prime as a completely different and un-related character to G1, where the more he fought he realized not everybody deserved mercy, and decided to kill more and more, basically he isnt as wise since he kills more, but its just me
It's not that he isn't wise, in my interpretation, he is just heavily traumatized with the war, and that just slowly converted him into a war machine that wants to make his enemies suffer the way his allies did when they died (Ironhide comes to mind) This can be seen when he swiftly lands a killing blow on Bonecrusher before he can agonize too much about the loss of his arm in the first movie, to outright beating Shockwave to death with his bare hands on the third. He slowly became more brutal.
I think some of his violence is narratively forgivable. He was defending himself in TF1 and fighting Megatron. In the TF2 forest fight he was outnumbered and the guy whose face he took off was twice his size, and the fallen was known for coming back so he had to be thorough by destroying the spark. By number three he was sick of Decepticons and it could be argued that he was executing Sentinel and Megatron for War Crimes. By number four he lost his friends to demented science experiments and was left with three toddlers and Hound. By number five he had been mind controlled and just woke up to *another* MacGuffin battle. He needs a damn nap.
@@meh5337no, whenever he got a chance, Megatron always did what Megatron was known for, killing things. Such examples include Jazz, Jetfire (indirectly), and the old guy in the final movie. Whereas Optimus had stated that he'd kill the scientists in Age of Extinction, yet low and behold (after causing some chaos) he spared them, despite why they'd done to Ratchet, his only Cybertronian medic and oldest friend.
Me after watching Optimus brutally split Lockdown in half: THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT! THATS WHY HE'S MVP!! THATS WHY HE'S THE GOAT! _THE GOAAAAAAT!!!!_
Legit wanted him to dismantle sentinel for doing Ironhide dirty like that, i wanted him to skin him piece by piece until hes an endoskeleton and a spark
@@Starvona well, Lockdown is a neutral bounty hunter. He just wants Optimus, and he'll stop at nothing to get him. Ratchet just happened to be in his way
I don't mind Optimus like this because the Bay films are the most realistic Transformers could ever be. In a realistic Cybertronian War they're going to be trying to kill each other, there's going to be Human casualties and property damage, there's going to be mistrust, hatred, and fear of the Transformers. Despite being violent towards the cons, I still see much of the OG Optimus in this one, he's still kind, protective, and wise, he's still a role model. Just one who's more of a soldier then most versions of Primes.
@@Warlord_Megatron TFP Optimus is part of the aligned continuity and follows on from the High Moon Studios games, he's a warrior first, both the games and the show made that abundantly clear, moreso the games though since the show needed to keep things more PG, but make no mistake, Aligned Continuity Prime is no pacifist.
Was ripping off Fallen’s face before tearing out his spark and destroying it in front of him really necessary that just felt like sadism on Prime’s part.
Is it me or are people expecting prime to not to kill anyone in a war and just stun then and ask them to join the AUTOBOT CAUSE sounds a little...idk...stupid now if we're talking about face ripping that's a different story
I like how people are like "G1 Optimus Prime would never do this" but completely ignore Optimus killing the Decepticons in the Animated movie. Also I don't remember the Decepitcons murdering humans when Central City was under their control.
We're talking about the how he's killing. Sure Optimus would kill if he has to, it's war. But going out of his way to make his enemies suffer is something he would never do, and if he did he'd take his ion blaster to his own processor in guilt
Optimus revives Sentinel Prime and he repaid him by betraying him, killing his old friend Ironhide, and destroy the very planet Optimus swore to protect because of Sentinel's "Freedom is everyone's right"
"Why would anyone ever join the Decepticons? The Autobots are way nicer!" **Optimus rips one of the Decepticon's face off while it begs him not to kill it.** "Ah....... I can see he went with the 'Leave none alive' route."
@@_AZBT_ASHUTOSHKUSHWAHA-vm3fhthat was blackout, he was killed in the same movie by lennox with a grenade launcher. The guy who had his face ripped in half was grindor.
To me, this is realistic. Prime had enough of watching his Autobots die from the hands of the Decepticons. Optimus doesn't treat his allies as his henchmen or soldiers, he treats them like they're his own family, losing one of them hurts him a lot. This also shows us how Optimus is a mighty Autobot and how capable he is to be a warrior. Never underestimate the power of a Prime.
I've watched countless Primes, but Bayverse Prime is undoubtedly my favourite. I always saw him as the anti-hero the world needs- unafraid to take the lives that aren't deserving of it. Plus he looked WAY TOO cool. TF 1 2 3 Prime designs were peak perfection. 4 and 5 Knight-primes were also beautiful but close second.
We can't blame Optimus as he went through HELL like betrayal, got his friends killed, died himself and fought for MILLIONS of years so letting out his anger is completely understandable.
In reality, DOTM was a full on war movie. Prime being the wau he is makes sense. The other movies give small brawls but DOTM is legitimately what the war would've looked like on Cybertron.
Fall of Cybertron Optimus: Gives every decepticon a second chance after Megatron is defeated. Bayverse Optimus to every decepticon: SLAUGHTER IS THE ONLY OPTION
When Optimus Prime is awakened in 'Age of Extinction', he yells 'Sam, run!' and then in 'The Last Knight', it's confirmed that Sam is dead. What a bummer 😔
Optimus Prime's final battles are pure examples of how a superhero can be ruthless, show no mercy, take life and yet still be heroic; his brutal methods in taking down Megatron, Sentinel Prime, The Fallen and lockdown should be the golden standard that all superhero characters follow, if Batman, Superman, Spider-Man and others like them just put down their threats the way Optimus Prime has they wouldn't be dealing with that much severe consequences from the devastating aftermath of their villains!
That's exactly why people love heroes like Batman and Spiderman, they don't kill their villians. They both see the good in them, and Batman has changed some of his criminals and villains lives in a good way
@megakirbo4250 Clayface, Harley quinn, Norman Osborne and I think killer croc are rare exceptions to the rules; They're not the ones I'm referring to, it's joker, bane, carnage and others like them that should be put down in a lethal matter!🔥💯😁👍
The bayverse transformers is how transformers should be displayed on the big screen cause i wouldnt want to see a bunch of awesome robots siting around talking to their enemies.
Bay nailed it on Optimus being that modern badass who is tired of the cliche no murder allowed hero BS, to this day this is honestly my personal fave best Optimus PRIME.
Difference between optimus prime and almost every hero. Dude's a KILLER. his mindset to killing is the same as goku to fighting. He won't think twice. You don't want to be the bad guy in his presence.
I always thought of the Bayverse Tranformers like biblical angels, they are thought of as these benevolent protectors who would never cause harm when in reality they're meant to be brutal warriors.
Still my favourite prime and no one will ever persuade me differently. My childhood optimus. This guy is a grizzled war vet who thought he'd found a home but the war followed him and he has had ENOUGH
The weird thing is, I always thought that the “who would you be without me” scene started with Megatron shooting first and wrote it off as them both understanding what was about to happen. I just today realized that Megatron only brought his gun up when Prime went for the axe, and barely even fired, considering there isn’t even a sound accompanying the shot.
I don't care if Bayverse Optimus is beyond ruthless for his character, he's still the most entertaining to me. After all that he went through and all that he lost, anyone would be ruthless against the ones responsible for it. He was still kind and sensible with the humans. Not to mention, he's supposed to be a soldier in Bayverse, not a hero. Soldiers kill, aggressively. Bayverse Optimus had the most interesting characterisation, the best fights, the most badass one liners and the most badass scenes.
@@Warlord_Megatron ah yes the same "mentor" that ran over 3 decepticons in top speed and then shot the wounded to death, beat megatron until he couldnt even move. very "composed" indeed
@@orhandalegend The fact that optimus could never get himself to kill megs proves his composed nature. And do you remember when ratchet was torturing a vehicon cuz he was on synthen and OPTIMUS scolded him for inflicting unnecessary harm? Do you remember when optimus consoled bee that he is not useless and assured him that they will soon find his tcog? Don't you remember when he got arcee's back when they were unable to reach base due to those metal eater bugs? Don't you remember the time when he reprimanded wheeljack for endangering his team? Yes he did beat up Megatron many times but always gave him the chance to change and never killed him. And if I recall correctly, the 3 cons you're talking about are none other than drones?
Personally I'd prefer just finishing them off entirely instead of taking them prisoners or prolonging their suffering. Or worse, talking them into joining the Autobot cause. But hot damn he has the best fatalities. Even Bee punching Soundwave in the chest with his arm cannon and blowing his head off looked nothing, and that was brutal.
I think more people would've let "war crime Prime" slide if he didn't drop psychopathic one-liners for half of them. The brutality is one thing, but even the original movie in '86 had him show up and immediately wipe a whole battalion of Decepticons by himself, which for all intents and purposes should've been more broken bodies for Unicron to take control of given that a lot of the autobots were killed in presumably the same manner. Lines like "any last words/give me your face/you DIIIIIE" could all be replaced with even some corny shit like "it didn't have to come to this/this ends now/this is not your world to rule" and everything about it would still feel like Prime, even if his methods are little more..."violent" to put it lightly.
I am so amazed at every other version of optimus prime to not be extremely pissed after fighting a war for MILLIONS OF YEARS, no wonder he is pissed off and wants to stop it, dude literally watched his planet die of war and still the war continues millions of years after the war started.
Long ago, the Transformers race was divided by a civil war between two great leaders. One was a cold-blooded, ruthless maniac who ruined millions of lives with his own hands. The other was Megatron.
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I love the part we're optimus is looking for Witnesses which one's your favorite part in your case out of all of them
i guess people like murder
@@azyanahamed7428 this mf killed Megatron with one arm what other primes be doing that😂
i love the i ve come for that staff edit
sorry if i spelled something wrong i live in greece
optimus prime in the first movie:life is beautiful!
optimus prime in literally every other movie:Give me your face. Piece of tin. Time to find out*literally declines an offer of peace*.
Every other Prime: All life is sacred and should be protected
Bayverse Prime: *Give me your face.*
very original of you, you people really forget how fucking mental these decepticons are
they kill humans for shits and giggles and you expect prime to just let them live?
Lol
Every other Prime also has child soldiers at least Shia LaBeouf was over 18
“Come here and put your face in my axe”
Set freedom is the right of all sentient beings which means we have to kill them because we can't put them in jail that would take away their freedom
love how the depictions of Optimus range from “friendly robot dad” to “war criminal” to “actual Jesus”
All three sound fine to me, except maybe war criminal. The right tone should be "war veteran" instead
@@iambran he’s the leader of a rebel army. Sounds like a war criminal
Dark of the Moon should of ended the Transformers there. With Megatron dead
@@ox_trueprotagonistchrisred9085 well in generation 1 transformers it didn't but they messed up the next chapter before it even started with galvatron and rodimus prime with unicron
@@aidenbolte8354so would you consider people who fought agains't opression war criminals?
7 years old me watching optimus prime head stabing,shooting head without mercy,tear apart face,take off shockwave eye,taking off fallen face,hook megatron face with axe untill ripped off from body and stabbed lockdown until split : *this is fine*
Do you know what grammar is
@@Bokobling i am only know "you are"
@@smileysekei4645 what
@@Bokobling bojangle me negger
@@Bokobling do you know what being a dickhead is?
"Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."
"America talking about freedom vs America spreads freedom."
"Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."
What Optimus meant by that was freedom of the humans from suffering the Decepticons' tyranny or prevent the fate of Cybertron happen again on Earth. "We cannot let the humans pay for our mistake!"
Yeah those who try to take freedom away kinda get blasted. Decepties are no exception
I’m not really surprised. I mean look at his color scheme 😭.
@@hideofreakingkojima5457 freedom is the right of all sentient beings so he can't put them in prison so War Crime Time still better than the other Optimist with their child soldiers Shia LaBeouf was and his twenties
😭🖐 😂
Megatron :wants to make peace with Optumus
Optimus:strike first strike hard no mercy
Optimus walks into the Cobra Kai Dojo: “I am here to learn Karate”
Kreeese: “You’ve ruined my dojo. Welcome to the team”
@@pcb1175 and the new champion of the all valley tournament is Optimus Prime
Yeah and a movie later Megatron was already doing evil shit again. I can't believe people really thought Megatron was honest on this
@@hrv3599 Kreese: “Finish him”
Optimus to his opponent: “Give me your face!”
We know how the alternate ending for Dark Of The Moon Megatron was sincere, but here we don't. Megatron could have been lulling OP into lowering his guard, or hoping to trick him to let him leave then Megs would strike back another day. For Megatron he can't be trusted, not after all he's done to Earth and Cybertron.
TF3: "The day will never come when we forsake this planet and its people"
TF4: "We're leaving this planet and it's people"
Beautiful character development
The alliance also fought alongside them as allies, before turning into a corporate-greedy and revenge-seeking task force that hunted down, betrayed, and fucking MURDERED each and every one of the autobots (who had been protecting them for 7 years from something that wasn't going to leave the Earth if they left) until only 5 of them were left.
People blame Prime, but the humans fucking deserved the Chicago attack and what happened in TF4.
I mean, not really his fault, and he sticks around to help them after all that anyways, so yeah it is character development
He was being hunted down by humans between those movies so I can understand him
Having the very people that you swore to protect hunt you down and kill your friends and melt down their bodies will do that.
Fro Real
G1: Friendly
TFP: Still Friendly
Bayverse: MURDEROUS PSYCHO
You sure about tfp being friendly he killed many of those purple deception minions.
@@bryanwu6211 They were drones so they probably were not sentient
@@jamesr5436 would a drone talk ,would a drone be worried about other drones, would a drone grunt ,would a drone feel pain,
You get my point they are not drones
So Optimus in tfp is definitely more innocent than the movies but he's not completely innocent
Barricade: *ARE YOU USERNAME LADIESMAN217?*
@@jamesr5436 they are sentient actually
It gets worse when you find out Bayverse Prime almost got friendly fired *MULTIPLE* times in the comics because soldiers who didn't know better would think he was a 'Con after seeing his brutality in combat.
Which comics?
@@therider3785 I believe IDW, but I'm not 100% sure.
@user-ox7ij3cm7f I don't remember. All I can tell you is they were published by IDW, and even that's not something I'm 100% sure of.
@@justinrolls9526 Yeah coes I've been recently reading the IDW movie comics, I don't recall any friendly fire incidents.
Worse? You mean better.
I got to be honest with myself, I don't care about what Optimus did to Sentinel. I wanted him dead the moment he shot Iron Hide in the back.
100% with ya
That was everyone in the theatre at that point.
He was a good character up until that point.
Optimus should have ripped him apart ,
I was 10 when I saw that and he was my favorite Auto Bot since the beginning. I cried and demanded he pay for his crimes.
Bayverse prime may not be one of the strongest among all the other versions but he sure as hell is one of the most ruthless
he IS one of the strongest versions, he is right behind the anime Optimuses
because you know, anime.
@@orhandalegend prime optimus have the power of god
Armada have the power of anime
@@orhandalegend he doesn't even have matrix of leadership
@@Warlord_Megatron HE DOES, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
@@orhandalegend someone with MoL won't do such things
Who could forget Optimus Prime’s most famous lines: “You die” and “I’ll kill you.” Truly, a role model for all of us.
Or his most famous: “Give me your face!”
Another good one: "We will kill them all."
Or better : "i rise, you fall"
Or better: "I've come"
To be fair, when you're fighting mass murderers, terrorists and torturers: that's the best course of action. What, you want him to get all Steven Universe with a literal Robot Hitler?
You know, when it comes to AoE, you can hardly blame Optimus for being as aggressive as he is
Bruh if anyone killed your friends and then just referred to them as 'property', you'd go full murderous psycho on them too.
Yeah his anger in that movie is fully justified.
*THEY SLAUGHTERED RATCHET!*
"We don't need you anymore. We can create you"
This line should hits hard, realising what you've done so far was only to be disregarded and instead used as a "research material"
At least in the end the bald guy turned to good
@@MTF-ALPHA1And disemboweled him.
"Who would you be without me, prime?"
"Time to find out." those two sentences are straight up badass.
2:03 for timestamp
Context is just silly though, megatron saves Optimus just to tear his head off and execute someone begging for their life
@@sekiro7397 well traitors dont deserve to live
@@sekiro7397 both of them were mass murderers who just killed THIUSANDS. Totally justified to brutally kill them
@@tbirdguy2011 yeah but dude saved his life
@@sekiro7397 I wouldn't really say he saved Prime, more like he disabled Sentinel purely out of self-interest.
He’s been fighting a civil war for millions of years what do you expect?
Something better
He is prime dude not a teenager. Primes know how to control their emotions but bayverse prime is nowhere close to it. I wonder if he had beared matrix of leadership. It doesn't look like he had
@@berilsevvalbekret772 lol Bayverse movies are better
@@Warlord_Megatron he does control his emotions but ok
@@kingknightisbestknight7398 nope
To be fair, Bonecrusher attacked first
They all did
@@ilikepigeons6101 well except megatron at the end of dotm
@@ryandean9171 I honestly think that Megatron was trying to trick Optimus into turning around so he could blast him in the back and tear him apart like he just did to Sentinel moments earlier. With the tone of his voice I didn’t even know he was offering a truce the first time I watched the movie.
Lmao what kind of excuse is that
@@sergeantwasp6018 that's very much in line with Megatron's character, he knew he had absolutely no chance against Prime in his state, so he'd have to trick him in order to win.
Optimus pulled the biggest "don't care didn't ask" on Megs and Sentinel
On a sentinel that was wounded and damaged by Megatron, no offense but Optimus lost to Sentinel fairly 1 on 1, Megatron's interruption saved his life.
@@dynamic6645Sentinel: 2vs1!!!!
Even though he's a psycho, you have to admit it was entertaining as hell.
Not for actual tf fans.
@@Warlord_Megatron what, "akchual" tf fans were crying watching this scenes?
No prime, pplleeeaaaassee
@@javiers.99 I'm talking about those who are into the series not because of lame action scenes and crappy storyline.
@@Warlord_Megatron "hmm, a boobie trap that actually catches boobies"
"Freedom is the right of all sentient beings"
*5 minutes later*
"If the eyes are red it's about to be dead"
XD
They had the freedom to choose they just chose wrong.
Optimus' mask was meant to hide his slasher smile whenever he gleefully executes his opponent.
NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT
0:40 imagine finishing a long day in the Factory, being paid a few US Dollars, driving home and suddenly you’re in Heaven or Hell thanks to an 85 ft-tall motorized unicycle with authority issues
Help, I'm dying XD.
man I'm actually dying lmaooo
This ..this is genuinely funny
this is pure gold
help this has me dying 🤣
Michael Bay's Optimus is the equivalent of turning Yoda into Greek Kratos.
lmao or turning the flash into the punisher
So... Prequel-era Yoda?
"End your life, I will"
Or Anakin
Bayformers prime was basically golden age superman back when supermsn was a violent psychopath
I like to think of Bayverse Prime as a completely different and un-related character to G1, where the more he fought he realized not everybody deserved mercy, and decided to kill more and more, basically he isnt as wise since he kills more, but its just me
It's not that he isn't wise, in my interpretation, he is just heavily traumatized with the war, and that just slowly converted him into a war machine that wants to make his enemies suffer the way his allies did when they died (Ironhide comes to mind)
This can be seen when he swiftly lands a killing blow on Bonecrusher before he can agonize too much about the loss of his arm in the first movie, to outright beating Shockwave to death with his bare hands on the third. He slowly became more brutal.
considering what happened with jazz, ironhide and ratchet..
Optimus did right...
@@TraFClub Jazz: You wanna piece of me?
Megatron: No, I want two!
Not just you. He doesn't even deserved to be called a prime. He is no different than wreckers imo
His the only Optimus who's really living war as what it is, an horrible thing where you shouldn't get mercy
Child me: *this is fine*
Adult me: *damn he is fine*
You're god damn right😎
I think some of his violence is narratively forgivable. He was defending himself in TF1 and fighting Megatron. In the TF2 forest fight he was outnumbered and the guy whose face he took off was twice his size, and the fallen was known for coming back so he had to be thorough by destroying the spark. By number three he was sick of Decepticons and it could be argued that he was executing Sentinel and Megatron for War Crimes. By number four he lost his friends to demented science experiments and was left with three toddlers and Hound. By number five he had been mind controlled and just woke up to *another* MacGuffin battle. He needs a damn nap.
He needs a hug and to see a trauma therapist
Megatron is more merciful than prime in bayverse
@@meh5337no, whenever he got a chance, Megatron always did what Megatron was known for, killing things. Such examples include Jazz, Jetfire (indirectly), and the old guy in the final movie. Whereas Optimus had stated that he'd kill the scientists in Age of Extinction, yet low and behold (after causing some chaos) he spared them, despite why they'd done to Ratchet, his only Cybertronian medic and oldest friend.
the issue is not that he kills bad guys. The issue is the sadistic glee with which he kills them. He's almost always dismembering people without need.
Calling drift, crosshairs, and bee toddlers is a hilarious way to put it 😭. Hound really was responsible one,,, fat ballerina forever
crazy to think that some of these "mindless" killer robots actually begged for mercy as the main character ripped them in half
Me after watching Optimus brutally split Lockdown in half:
THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!
THATS WHY HE'S MVP!!
THATS WHY HE'S THE GOAT!
_THE GOAAAAAAT!!!!_
Legit wanted him to dismantle sentinel for doing Ironhide dirty like that, i wanted him to skin him piece by piece until hes an endoskeleton and a spark
3:54
"We were brothers once!"
"Once."
Yeah, you ain't living after that one liner.
So we just going to sit here forget how many bodies Optimus caught between all the auto bots😂😭
Nah frfr… more than the humans…. Starting to think auto bots n Deceptacons needa trade places…
@@Starvona well, Lockdown is a neutral bounty hunter. He just wants Optimus, and he'll stop at nothing to get him. Ratchet just happened to be in his way
I don't mind Optimus like this because the Bay films are the most realistic Transformers could ever be. In a realistic Cybertronian War they're going to be trying to kill each other, there's going to be Human casualties and property damage, there's going to be mistrust, hatred, and fear of the Transformers. Despite being violent towards the cons, I still see much of the OG Optimus in this one, he's still kind, protective, and wise, he's still a role model. Just one who's more of a soldier then most versions of Primes.
This shit with this character isn't realistic. Want realistic watch prime and play cybertron games.
@@berilsevvalbekret772 by realistic I mean the fact that it’s realistic like actual war.
@@user-DrKritz115 Ofc she knows. Transformers prime shows what an actual prime is. Bayverse prime was nowhere close to a prime
@@Warlord_Megatron Bayverse prime is a prime, y’all just soft
@@Warlord_Megatron TFP Optimus is part of the aligned continuity and follows on from the High Moon Studios games, he's a warrior first, both the games and the show made that abundantly clear, moreso the games though since the show needed to keep things more PG, but make no mistake, Aligned Continuity Prime is no pacifist.
These are gigantic metal robots in the middle of a civil war. Anything but brutal would be weird to be fair. I like it.
Was ripping off Fallen’s face before tearing out his spark and destroying it in front of him really necessary that just felt like sadism on Prime’s part.
@@thenerdlord8894 you're telling me you wouldn't be grumpy after coming back to life when you were brutally murdered? Hmm? 😅
@@thenerdlord8894 Considering Fallen was the big bad at the time that actually had Prime killed why not?
@@thenerdlord8894 he has reason to hate on the Fallen
@@thenerdlord8894 he has reason to hate on the Fallen
Is it me or are people expecting prime to not to kill anyone in a war and just stun then and ask them to join the AUTOBOT CAUSE sounds a little...idk...stupid now if we're talking about face ripping that's a different story
I like how people are like "G1 Optimus Prime would never do this" but completely ignore Optimus killing the Decepticons in the Animated movie. Also I don't remember the Decepitcons murdering humans when Central City was under their control.
We're talking about the how he's killing. Sure Optimus would kill if he has to, it's war. But going out of his way to make his enemies suffer is something he would never do, and if he did he'd take his ion blaster to his own processor in guilt
@@hideofreakingkojima5457 Yeah 80's Optimus killed the decepticons as well
Watch transformers prime and you will understand what these "people" expect from a prime.
@@Smashboi76he realized didn’t make them suffer he shot them in the face he didn’t tourte them every kill he makes
Is precise
Optimus revives Sentinel Prime and he repaid him by betraying him, killing his old friend Ironhide, and destroy the very planet Optimus swore to protect because of Sentinel's "Freedom is everyone's right"
"Why would anyone ever join the Decepticons? The Autobots are way nicer!"
**Optimus rips one of the Decepticon's face off while it begs him not to kill it.**
"Ah....... I can see he went with the 'Leave none alive' route."
He killed a whole military base in the first film... he had it coming
@@_AZBT_ASHUTOSHKUSHWAHA-vm3fhthat was blackout, he was killed in the same movie by lennox with a grenade launcher. The guy who had his face ripped in half was grindor.
He jumped Optimus Crime in a 3v1 and still managed to get killed, that's just a skill issue on Grindor's part.
"LOOKING FOR WITNESSES."
Beautifully brilliant observation.
Intentional or not, “Pull over!” is the exact type of campy phrase G1 Optimus would say.
After losing Jazz, Ironhide and his own life I'm sure he wanted to get payback in full against The Fallen, Megatron and Sentinel
Bayverse Optimus Prime: *Committing countless war crimes, merciless berserker, slaughtering decepticons*
Me: he's a good guy, he is my hero
To me, this is realistic. Prime had enough of watching his Autobots die from the hands of the Decepticons. Optimus doesn't treat his allies as his henchmen or soldiers, he treats them like they're his own family, losing one of them hurts him a lot.
This also shows us how Optimus is a mighty Autobot and how capable he is to be a warrior. Never underestimate the power of a Prime.
2:07 the best scene in all cinematic history
Its funny how being murderous and brutal is legit Bayverse Optimus's most defining and consistent character trait
the dotm flying in scene with that sound effect= gold
I love how sometimes he says action hero one liners and the rest of the time he says shit like "Give me your face"
Optimus Prime has truly taken the great advice of Thanos " Always Go For The Head "
In Bayverse’s Optimus’ defense he’s usually chill af until someone pisses him off or hurts his friends/family
1:41 i like how suddenly the ground start to explode as Optimus appears lol
It was shockwave firing.
I've watched countless Primes, but Bayverse Prime is undoubtedly my favourite. I always saw him as the anti-hero the world needs- unafraid to take the lives that aren't deserving of it.
Plus he looked WAY TOO cool. TF 1 2 3 Prime designs were peak perfection. 4 and 5 Knight-primes were also beautiful but close second.
One of the best interpretations of Optimus.
Worst*
Unless this is your first time watching something related to transfomers.
@@Warlord_Megatron his right, one of the best. In war how do you expect a war hero to not kill his ennemis ???
@@Warlord_Megatron yeah yeah, we get it, TFP is good, no need to tell it here all over again.
@@Warlord_Megatron I did and the war is softer than in the Bayverse.
@@Nomadx83War is softer as cliff jumper is executed after he’s corrupted with darker energon lol
We can't blame Optimus as he went through HELL like betrayal, got his friends killed, died himself and fought for MILLIONS of years so letting out his anger is completely understandable.
You will miss this Optimus in a couple of years, mark my words
"Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. For example, Megatron's head has the right to be free from his shoulders"
BAHAHAHA
“Oh lord he’s coming” just adds to the “let them come” meme
In reality, DOTM was a full on war movie. Prime being the wau he is makes sense. The other movies give small brawls but DOTM is legitimately what the war would've looked like on Cybertron.
Optimus to Autobots: "You can achieve anything my child"
Optimus to Decepticons: *Prowler theme bass boosted*
FR
A murderous maniac is always calm before the storm.
Fall of Cybertron Optimus: Gives every decepticon a second chance after Megatron is defeated.
Bayverse Optimus to every decepticon: SLAUGHTER IS THE ONLY OPTION
except bayverse decepticons are complete savages
Then they immediately prove that they should have been killed immediately
The Deception slayer
@@caymyles6481 Rip and tear
Well they ain't cartoony villians soooo
When Optimus Prime is awakened in 'Age of Extinction', he yells 'Sam, run!' and then in 'The Last Knight', it's confirmed that Sam is dead.
What a bummer 😔
Optimus is the Quiet Kid
He was the “quiet one” of the primes
HAHAHAHHAHA@@jemobolqvadze6905
Optimus Prime's final battles are pure examples of how a superhero can be ruthless, show no mercy, take life and yet still be heroic; his brutal methods in taking down Megatron, Sentinel Prime, The Fallen and lockdown should be the golden standard that all superhero characters follow, if Batman, Superman, Spider-Man and others like them just put down their threats the way Optimus Prime has they wouldn't be dealing with that much severe consequences from the devastating aftermath of their villains!
That's exactly why people love heroes like Batman and Spiderman, they don't kill their villians. They both see the good in them, and Batman has changed some of his criminals and villains lives in a good way
@megakirbo4250 Clayface, Harley quinn, Norman Osborne and I think killer croc are rare exceptions to the rules; They're not the ones I'm referring to, it's joker, bane, carnage and others like them that should be put down in a lethal matter!🔥💯😁👍
"optimus is such a murderous psycho!"
_Meanwhile, the decepticons are turning people into literal skeletongs like the green goblin bombs_
Atfter fully saw it with my eyes went full vision, I confirm
I saw how the residents got killed and their aftermaths
Justified
that's not psychopathy
Megatron: Optimus I am tired of the fighting please let’s stop this
Optimus: rip and tear, until it is done
I understand now why Cemetery Wind was created
Because optimus was clearing out decepticons?
because prime was saving the fucking planet?
FR
Its his psychopathy @@Gahmane
And to think that everything he did was for human race makes me respect Optimus more then ever.
The most badass Prime that has graced us with his presence
The bayverse transformers is how transformers should be displayed on the big screen cause i wouldnt want to see a bunch of awesome robots siting around talking to their enemies.
*Im Nemesis prime* , you viewers are nothing!
Tagata🤖💙🌒😪wpawatdwagdmat
1:33
1:41 bruh, he runs like a fuckin maniac
Optimus went from humble and wise into a war criminal 💀
Bay nailed it on Optimus being that modern badass who is tired of the cliche no murder allowed hero BS, to this day this is honestly my personal fave best Optimus PRIME.
Difference between optimus prime and almost every hero. Dude's a KILLER. his mindset to killing is the same as goku to fighting. He won't think twice. You don't want to be the bad guy in his presence.
Am only the one who likes bayverse Optimus? I mean he's so badass and not give a shi about the enemy
Honestly, I like bayverse Optimus. He's an ass kicking badass and also an inspirational MFER
I always thought of the Bayverse Tranformers like biblical angels, they are thought of as these benevolent protectors who would never cause harm when in reality they're meant to be brutal warriors.
Other Optimus primes: I am a leader and I should have compassion and courage befitting of one
Bayverse optimus prime: *I crave violence mother*
" *I crave violence mother* " 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
G1 prime: good guy
TFP prime: also good guy
Bayverse prime: *crack cocaine*
??????
Optimus prime: all life is sacred
Also Optimus prime: hipty popity your face is now my property
XDDDD I DIED OF LAUGHTER **WHEEZE**
Bro, Prime always go's straight for the head. He's not even trying to take them alive.
I find this delightful
Me without coffee and optimism is not himself when he's hungry, try a snickers. 😂
I finally realize why I loved Optimus. None of that 'Spare thy enemy' nonsense. Your enemies can't hurt anyone if they're dead.
Jazz: want a piece of me?!
Megatron: no I want 2!
Prime: no! *give me your face!*
Alternate title: when optimus prime is fed up
I liked how Optimus is suicidal, murderous, borderline psychopathic, an executioner, don't give 2 shits and the Autobots still believe in him.
Still my favourite prime and no one will ever persuade me differently. My childhood optimus.
This guy is a grizzled war vet who thought he'd found a home but the war followed him and he has had ENOUGH
The weird thing is, I always thought that the “who would you be without me” scene started with Megatron shooting first and wrote it off as them both understanding what was about to happen. I just today realized that Megatron only brought his gun up when Prime went for the axe, and barely even fired, considering there isn’t even a sound accompanying the shot.
I love how one armed Optimus prime effort lessly destroys megatron
I don't care if Bayverse Optimus is beyond ruthless for his character, he's still the most entertaining to me. After all that he went through and all that he lost, anyone would be ruthless against the ones responsible for it. He was still kind and sensible with the humans. Not to mention, he's supposed to be a soldier in Bayverse, not a hero. Soldiers kill, aggressively. Bayverse Optimus had the most interesting characterisation, the best fights, the most badass one liners and the most badass scenes.
now that i hear "no prime please", everytime i watch it it breaks my heart
We gonna ignore the fact that Prime straight up delivered a sweet chin music to Megatron.
Fun fact: Peter Cullen (the voice of Optimus) also noticed these lines and actions are out of character for Prime.
You know you’ve crossed the line when even peter doesn’t like this version of prime
That’s why I call this prime, War crime Prime.
killing planetary terrorists who willingly kill innocents and endanger an entire solarsystem is a war crime?
he should be rewarded for those actions
@@orhandalegend true to that aswell. Still saves the day
Lame ass prime is better. Nowhere close to even the idea of a prime. Prime isn't a ruthless Soldier. Prime is a composed protector and mentor.
@@Warlord_Megatron ah yes the same "mentor" that ran over 3 decepticons in top speed and then shot the wounded to death, beat megatron until he couldnt even move.
very "composed" indeed
@@orhandalegend The fact that optimus could never get himself to kill megs proves his composed nature. And do you remember when ratchet was torturing a vehicon cuz he was on synthen and OPTIMUS scolded him for inflicting unnecessary harm? Do you remember when optimus consoled bee that he is not useless and assured him that they will soon find his tcog? Don't you remember when he got arcee's back when they were unable to reach base due to those metal eater bugs? Don't you remember the time when he reprimanded wheeljack for endangering his team?
Yes he did beat up Megatron many times but always gave him the chance to change and never killed him. And if I recall correctly, the 3 cons you're talking about are none other than drones?
"GIVE ME YOUR FACE" is the scariest thing Prime ever said while tearing the Fallen apart
Deceptions: *exist*
Optimus Prime:anyway i am going sicko mode
Personally I'd prefer just finishing them off entirely instead of taking them prisoners or prolonging their suffering. Or worse, talking them into joining the Autobot cause. But hot damn he has the best fatalities. Even Bee punching Soundwave in the chest with his arm cannon and blowing his head off looked nothing, and that was brutal.
I think more people would've let "war crime Prime" slide if he didn't drop psychopathic one-liners for half of them. The brutality is one thing, but even the original movie in '86 had him show up and immediately wipe a whole battalion of Decepticons by himself, which for all intents and purposes should've been more broken bodies for Unicron to take control of given that a lot of the autobots were killed in presumably the same manner. Lines like "any last words/give me your face/you DIIIIIE" could all be replaced with even some corny shit like "it didn't have to come to this/this ends now/this is not your world to rule" and everything about it would still feel like Prime, even if his methods are little more..."violent" to put it lightly.
Him killing and angry is not the problem the problem is that he legit wants to massacre people in Bayformers lol
1:02
This isn't G1 transformers so stop expecting it to be.
@@ko6171 yeah cuz it’s fucking ass
@@ko6171 "Shut up and stop critiquing the thing that I like!"
Not gonna lie, Bayverse Prime is kinda my favorite version of the guy. Love me some chaotic good brutality
"Time to show you, The real power of a Prime!"
I am so amazed at every other version of optimus prime to not be extremely pissed after fighting a war for MILLIONS OF YEARS, no wonder he is pissed off and wants to stop it, dude literally watched his planet die of war and still the war continues millions of years after the war started.
Long ago, the Transformers race was divided by a civil war between two great leaders.
One was a cold-blooded, ruthless maniac who ruined millions of lives with his own hands.
The other was Megatron.
yea Optimus was absolutely brutal in every film. He's very humble and makes a great leader but when you're evil he ain't holding back at all.
Dont be scared of decepticons
Be scared of optimus prime