BRYAN KOHBERGER UNMASKED -Psychologist Dr John Matthias
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- Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025
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DR. JOHN MATTHIAS is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist with 30 years’ experience in both clinical and forensic work. He serves as an expert witness for the federal government and has consulted on numerous high-profile cases for District Attorney’s offices and defense attorneys in several states.
In the forensic area, Dr. Matthias has developed expertise in personality assessments, hidden behavioral motivations, complex trauma and criminal psychology. In the clinical realm, he has worked with numerous victims. He received his Master’s degree in Marriage, Family and Child counseling, as well his doctorate degree, from the University of Southern California.
Dr. Matthias graduated with honors in philosophy from Princeton University, and he won the prestigious McCosh Thesis prize while there. In high school he graduated valedictorian from a large public high school in Chicago where he was chosen to participate in a ground-breaking valedictory study that continues to this day.
Dr. Matthias has been an adjunct assistant professor in the University of Nevada Las Vegas clinical psychology doctoral program since 2007. He supervises UNLV doctoral students on forensic assessments, clinical case formulation, and various therapeutic approaches to clinical work.
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FOR THOSE NEW TO HTC: Dr. John is explaining how BK may have FELT BULLIED, NOT THAT HE WAS IN FACT BULLIED.
Rejection from a woman, for example is not bullying , but often perceives as a slight and not handled well.
Dr. John likely felt that was implied as it was for many of us because we understand the rejection logic and we understand Dr. John and how he thinks and he would never assume bullying even if it was actually bullying without being pretty sure. He’s not saying for sure he’s an incel even tho there’s plenty to support he is. So he definitely would not assume women rejecting a strange man was bullying.
IN THIS CONTEXT BULLYING MEANS PERCEIVED SLIGHTS. Rejection is a perceived insult or bullying possibly to BK.
Sorry to use yelling font, but it seems that needed cleared up.
Thank you for understanding Dr John and translating exactly what he was trying to express.
This is exactly how I interpreted Dr. John’s words.
I have started and restarted my response to you several times. I am not finding the adequate words to express my reaction to your “yelling font.” So I’ll say that it disappoints me on a channel like this that a hidden gem would go there to make their point. Everyone has different methods, though, and I’ll have to infer that you prefer the one you chose.
@@HiddenTrueCrime sounds like some new people to not understand. The OGs weren’t confused at all
@@coleen_L_3 would go where to make a point? And who? Whose the hidden gem
I find it difficult to label female rejection as “bullying”. He sounds like an awkward, persistent, clueless young man. Men like that scare young women. Women have a right, even an obligation, to protect themselves. To forcefully tell him to go away and stay away and to repeat themselves when they see him again is not bullying. Some young men have to be rejected, forcefully and repeatedly and even threatened if they continue to act in a feral manner. It’s not cruel to protect yourself.
Kids he went to school with said he was bullied???
But I do agree that he likely processed rejection as bullying and it sounds like he was too forward.
@@Cruella-mm6qothey never said he was specifically bullied by females. that's a leap.
Same. 'Bullying' can also be efforts on the part of peers to draw the 'bullied' person's attention to their poor and unattractive behaviours. I'm not excusing it but it's not always a horrific process - my sympathies to those suffering from bullies - but I've also seen really awful people calling others 'bullies' for merely questioning their actions and attitudes towards others.
The female who re-told the awkward date and tickling may be a clue BK has issues with recognizing boundaries?
The eye fuzz? Left too long behind a toddler gate for e.g. ?
I have to speak to this….. I am the mom of identical twin boys that are on the autism spectrum. Albeit, high functioning, but the social struggles are real. And really painful to watch through the teen years. One left for college at 19 and the other at 21. I was so worried about them…. I wasn’t sending off the captain of the football team…. These boys struggled. Mama worried. A lot. I am so proud of them. One became president of student government and the other was asked to become a tutor his freshman year! But, I WORRIED and did cry:/
Let’s speak to lack of male role modeling. I was divorced and their father’s involvement limited. Thank God we found a school that specialized in social struggles and the importance of strong male role modeling for boys on the spectrum.
I have High Functioning Autism. And what they need to do is this...... RUclips. I am sure they have a few "Interests" that they put everything into...and know everything about like me.
They need to do videos on those things here. They will excel
@@rockscousteau they do know a thing or two about history;) very very bright. So proud of them. Thank you for the suggestion.
I have always suspected that BCK was on the spectrum or what was known as Asperger's. Many signs. Awkwardness, no understanding of social cues, few, if any friends, that forced(expected) smile/acknowledgement at each hearing, the intelligence (the focus on one area), also he had visual snow and depression, plus low self esteem, as he himself wrote on message boards.
I disagree with judging kids on male versus female or other influential family members or friends. We have to quit pretending a family exists that has a PRESENT mother, father and functional family type existence. Inappropriate analogy.
As a parent of an adult child who struggles, I can empathize with his mother. It must have been terrifying for her to have him leave home, knowing how poorly adapted he was. Then her worst fears came true.
Yes, I can only imagine.
Absolutely..😢
I wondered if she even thought he could even be capable of such a thing.
If your child struggles, you can’t shield them, you need to teach them how to handle tough life situations that are inevitable.
@@Fairy71128🙄 hmm would 4 people be dead if Bryan was shielded a bit more?
A mother know what their kid needs. I’m certain you know what yours need.
The reddit posts by his mom are very sad and telling. She was very insightful and had reason to worry, and not just for her son. I remember hearing that his dad drove up to WSU to help him move in. He had "jokingly" asked a neighbor to be his friend. I think both had serious concerns for their son, and rightfully so.
Oh noooo that’s so sad.
I feel so bad for them, it seems like they have tried to do their best but their worst nightmare became a reality!
@@DistancetoEmpty5678This is definitely a cover up And BK is innocent. BK was not the Door Dash guy though
BEST EPISODE YET! Dr. John needs to go in depth more often! You guys are a great team!
I moved out of my parents' house the first time at 27, but my parents and I have a really healthy relationship. I was going to school 5 minutes from home, didn't have to pay rent, have half of a house to myself, etc. Plus I was taking care of my grandma part time for a few of those years, and my parents are older as well, my dad has a lot of health issues so I was there to help him as well.
I'm actually back at their house now at 29 after finally getting out of an abusive relationship where I was (mostly emotionally) abused, but also physically and monetarily abused and have had to file bankruptcy. Thankfully I have parents that are willing and able to help me out and are perfectly fine with my moving back in while I get myself together.
Not to make a big argument about it or anything, just to say that some people stay at home longer than others although it's not always because of an unhealthy attachment.
Appreciate your comment and your respect to your family. Our ancestors had no such issues with regard to kicking their offspring out of the nest. It was an interesting listen from John. Good wishes to your journey through this life..and to your parents. As parents we are not all perfect, but try our best.🐾
I totally agree. I don't live in the States any more, I've moved to the Middle East and I find it interesting how this is also totally different in other cultures. Here, most kids aren't expected to leave the nest before they get married, both girls and boys. They may choose to leave earlier but in general parents and the society don't push it.
Heck, these Snowflakes nowadays never leave home
Absolutely.
Maybe so but you leaving home and immediately finding yourself in a highly abusive situationship seems to indicate you may not have healthy attachment and/or a healthy relationship skills.
I just watched a documentary on BTK -- Dennis Rader -- and Kohberger's admiring teacher was the primary expert and narrator. He was about the same age as Bryan when he was laid off from a job he loved at Cessna. That same day he began practicing breaking into houses. Not long after, he murdered a family -- Mother, father, young sister, and young brother. Two other kids survived because they were not there. It was hideous. Strangling --- he hanged the 11-year-old daughter in the basement and killed her last. She was crying and asked him what is going to happen to me. He said, "Tonight you'll be in heaven with your family...." It reminded me of the 1122 killer telling Xana, "Don't worry, I'm here to help you" while she was weeping. I think BK may have responded similarly after he suffered all the rejection at this new job he had landed. Rader said it was a manifestation of his "dark side" and he became a serial killer to make society itself pay for what he saw as his mistreatment. I think you are are on the right path.
I watch a ton of true crime, and most provide very good insights, but no one breaks it down like Dr. John. Your psychological profiles are must see tv. Thanks!!!
Thank you!
The mother had every right to be worried about her son especially after a very dangerous drug addiction. Let’s not forget how going through drug addiction with your child changes the dynamic between parents and child. It stunts the maturity of the child and they lose time to deal with life without drugs. BK mother was most likely frightened he may go back to drugs after a fight to keep him sober. Also, BK not only was overweight but he had depression which is also frightening to parents. All this makes a parent wish they could keep them safe and under their wing. Dependency is inevitable when a child has struggle the way BK has. I feel for the mother and father especially since their worse fear came true.
Fully agree with you. Parenthood is so difficult and it is simply human nature to become protective when you sense weakness/issues in your child. He clearly had issues his entire life and they thought they were supporting him the best way they knew how??? I honestly feel for them.
Their worst fear that he has been FALSEY ACCUSED of murder you mean......
@@tonystevenson26m B
Very well said. I, too, really feel for his parents. There’s no manual for navigating these issues. I have no doubt they did the best they could.
Yes....yes.
Dr. John is a pleasure to listen to-so intelligent, well prepared, balanced but not overly cautious, insightful. Every time that I have heard his insights into the criminal mind and behavior, I have learned something now. Thanks.
Listening to his mother’s Reddit posts was so terribly sad.
I can’t even imagine how she felt when he was arrested. I’m certain that she has needed psychiatric help, which I’m glad it’s available for her.
This is my 2nd visit, and like the first (Doerman case), and I’m astounded at how you unravel everything to make perfect sense. Thank you both for providing such a useful outlet for other truth seekers. 😊
Ive been screaming about this being a big part of how angry he was, especially at women, for losing everything after losing his job.
I can't feel bad for the family and I don't know why
He didn't lose that job until after he got bk to PA
@@all_that_glitters13131 , feel bad for assuming this man is guilty based on some clueless speculation coming from a YT channel .
Thanks!
You’re welcome!
Genuinely curious where the evidence is of females bullying him. Rejection is one thing, harsh rejection is another, and bullying is yet another. Important distinctions.
there are statements of his former colleagues that a lot of girls from his junior-high school used to throw trash at Bryan and called him names. This is quite a bully behavior with dire consequences
@@ttx3 Colleagues or classmates? Any non-Daily Mail associated sources? I was also treated like that in middle school by a few people on occasion, but I never turned into a mass murderer. Bullying is awful, but I don’t think BK was made in whole or part, by some junior high female bullies if that’s what you’re getting at.
@@dachshundsdogs4407 classmates. We don’t know whether the bullying he suffered during junior high caused him to become an alleged killer. If he is indeed the killer, imo there is a multitude of social & psychological factors and this is never an excuse to comitt a murder. What it matters is the totality of factors, not just only one, albeit the bullying from some teenage girls
Y’all also seem to skim over those same statements where they say he becomes a bully after losing weight. So he ‘got fit’ and thought he was boss now.
I think he confused bullying for rejection. His weight loss and intelligence will never mask his lack of social skills and his reactions to his environment. He just never accepted the fact that HE was the problem
Psychologically challenged men put women in a bad spot. The woman draws her boundaries and says "No thanks" and the fellow with the issues blames her, thinks it's bullying, feels entitled to sex, and resents her, then rejects all women.
On the WSU criminology PhD page online it does say as a PhD candidate they have to be in a TA program or doing research. It is a requirement. I dont know if anyone would take him on as a research assistant after being fired from the TA program
Thanks, and hats off to both of you for creating content that is actual True Crime", with in-depth discussions that cover Psychopathy, personality disorders, and the mind of a murderer, and always in respect of the victims, their family's and viewers.
Agreed 100%
It doesn’t seem ethical to diagnose someone without even meeting them.
As a mother of a Gen Z/Alpha son who wants to be a police officer, I love your channel and deeper take on the forensic side. My son is an only and at times my hub and I can see where best parenting intentions have gone awry. And I've grown up and very aware of generational and cultural bias toward sons. Unconsciously, i can see that trickle into some of my behavior and I've worked with my therapist to correct it without giving my son whiplash. I get why some parents find neglectful coping methods to ease guilt. You have to be the role model - and for this ADHD gal, it's been eye opening. Every day I recommit to building my and my son's resilience.
I guess we'll never know, but I wonder if BK, if guilty, might have revisited heroin at the time of this event?
Depression and anxiety don’t contribute to becoming a psychopath. I’ve known plenty of good, moral people who suffer from depression and anxiety. Also, OCD is normally harmless. Being overweight also is common and unfortunately people name call. Yet these people do NOT turn into psychopaths .The perpetrator was a psychopath first and foremost.
You’re speaking to two overweight people with depression and anxiety. We promise we won’t murder anyone 😂😂😂
@@HiddenTrueCrime Okay, well ALL your commercial ads during videos are a bit much...and killing me. Can you Control how the ads come up? I'd rather have a double ad way further apart, than all these continuous interruptions. Think about it, and maybe fix it, if you agree. Take a poll.😃😃
It's when they externalize the problem that I think it becomes a problem. Most of us internalize our pain.
Thank you, very true! Mental health advocate here who pushes through daily with MI, ( mine is more than anxiety & depression)
The stigma is still HUGLEY still in place, I fight to end it , however it’s not accepted by society it’s not a choice
@@HiddenTrueCrime Lauren isn’t overweight??
This has been SO INTERESTING ! I like having one primary subject discussed in a long session like this Kohberger podcast. Looking forward to the next one!
Love you guys such a power duo big love from Perth Australia
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Not everyone that is rejected or treated bad are not angry but feels the deep hurt and causesone to cry. They can be merciful to others knowing how it feels to be rejected. They love and have great compassion and will encourage people.
Interesting “we can do everything right and still get harmed.” This may exactly be the point he was illustrating. The student victims braved their independence into the world and into the academic culture at young ages, stuck together, negotiated interdependent relationships with mutual respect and sensitivity. He could not develop that himself so he took it from them.
& they ticked off dealers from Pullman to Boise. He's a Cleanberger.
Braved their way into academia and got drunk alot and carelessly let underage drinking and drug use occur at their house unattended...please get a clue, Bryan had NO MOTIVE and is being RAILROADED
@@timewa851some of those girls were bold and mouthy, piss off the wrong person and it's curtains
@@richardmullins44I know right, it's Ridiculous ...they'll fabricate ANYTHING to make him look guilty, it's disgusting,
Then explain why a common denominator in murders are simply easy access because doors and windows weren't secured. They didn't do everything right.
I remain stunned that these TWO memorably horrific crimes… took place in IDAHO!
Not just two hon.
JDK. You guys are great together. I listen and watch as many as I can.
His father flying to drive back with him is very important. Sent by the mother. Get him home for a re-set.
Parents do that on long trips I would
That is a long damn trip and makes sense to me to fly and ride back come in now
Yes, an assistantship can be a scholarship that includes tuition, housing, living stipend. It is a massive disgrace to lose such a scholarship package.
Not only losing it , but so very quickly! It's like they faculty recognized their mistaken choice in less than half a semester.
Staying close for school and staying at home can have a lot to do with finances.
Whatever the reasons, he was leaving home for the first time.
I have a theory that may go deeper than being rejected by girls at school. I think BK resented his successful sisters, who by the way are very pretty blonde haired females. I think he was teased by his siblings relentlessly for being over weight. I also think he resented his mom. When he writes about the “snow” as a teen and depression, he only refers to his dad and how he loved him, but was not nice to him. He also wrote a note to his dad, but no mention of mom.
As well, it was economical for him to stay home to go to college (remember parents weren’t well off) and during his Master’s was the pandemic. Also, the prof who thought he was a “star” pupil had never met him in person, so she was referring only to his intellect, not his social interactions
All good relevant points…we are all soooo multifaceted aren’t we!
Wow! I didn’t know that the professor who recommended him had never met him in person! If true, that’s so bizarre, but makes sense in a way!
Why would Bryan resent his sister's, are you saying Bryan isn't successful? Damn, what's it take for you ? The dude KICKED HEROIN, determinedly lost weight, studied and worked hard and had a PHD...seems pretty succesfull to me...he KNEW TOO MUCH about Mosconian shenanigans, so they RAILROADED him
Where did you read about his sisters teasing him?
@@tonystevenson26 I never said he was unsuccessful. I was merely theorizing that there maybe more to the family dynamics.
Pushing back doesn’t necessarily equate or elevate to bullying. When a guy thinks you are flirting just for talking to him you have to clearly shut it down.
AMEN! YES! 😊
This!!!!
Just do it nicely. I can't tell you how defeating it is if a woman just blows you off.
Not to him. To him, they’re bullying him. That’s how HE sees it.
Perceived bullying.
No one should have to appease a man.
I’m so glad this podcast is up. I was listening 4 weeks ago in my car, and I lost connection, searched for it with no luck. It was very interesting/informative. Happy to be able to hear it in its entirety. 👍🏼🍀😎
Sorry for your terrible day- keeping it real!!! Love you guys !
I know, I am sorry, too.
But I laughed so hard at the 5 yr old's perspective of not caring about the flooded house, like it's an adventure 😅😊
Nailed it!! Thankyou you two for being you. never disappointed in your channel or point of view.
His mother was in denial, shielded him from real life. Reality is that you’ll get rejected, you will fail. But she was giving the message to him that he’s infallible, that people have to love him instantly, like she loves him…. That’s just immature of the mother too
He was really angry at women for reporting him for discriminating against female students, so he blamed women for destroying his life.......
No , not at all, the female students simply did not put in the effort required to get the grades...they asked Bryan to go easier on them, even though they may not have deserved it.They wanted him to lessen his credibility
@tonystevenson - you are trolling 🤥
@@tonystevenson26🙄🤮
PMSL - receipts??
@@nellyb2434 - google or look on you tube as to why his job was terminated as TA..... Have you been following this case?? This is kinda common knowledge.
Just wanted to let you know how much I love this channel - I discovered while recovering from spine surgery and ever since this channel has kept me company during my recovery. Peace & Love
Ive been screaming about this being a big part of how angry he was, especially at women, for losing everything after losing his job.
I absolutely love this channel and your view on this case.
Listen, I’ve been rejected more times than a stolen credit card and I’ve never felt bullied
Omg...what a great comment!
Thank goodness you were never accused of murder bc your rejection would make up your profile . This is all ridiculous .
@@Ther3rg Well, the only thing I’ve ever murdered are 7 or 8 relationships.
@@brooklynrules6117 , and so far I haven’t heard 1 relationship BK have murdered . The guy is social awkward around girls so what …. That doesn’t make him a murderer . He doesn’t even fit the profile of someone who can carry out something so brutal . So far we’ve heard nothing from Dr . John or the DA to convince me they have the right man .
Be wary of the "nice mother" on social media or anywhere else, really. It frightening the different faces some people can have.
Dr. John is the best!
I'm really excited about finding your channel. The focus is interesting and intelligent, it answers my questions, in theory, about why people do these horrible things.
This should come down as a lecture on psychology. Thznk you so much both, I love this channel
Thank you for your compassionate yet incredibly insightful timeline and deep dive into BK and family. As a college professor who works with students going into the field…. plans of improvements are typically put in place during the final semesters of internship… when the professional characteristics and disposition are more visible. BK having a meeting with his profs and a plan of improvement says volumes about their concerns. We serve as gatekeepers and I cannot imagine how his profs must feel. As a mother… i understand the concerns she had… BK must have had serious developmental delays in transitioning into adulthood. But with that said… the pandemic and financial burden of college also make sense to me. the heroin addiction at such a young age! the vulnerability was there on so many levels! Bravo to you both! Thank you for what you do! your are so appreciated and respected!
Dr babe, you explain what's going on mentally with these people. Its very interesting and helps to understand why it happened. So thanks for the great content. Respect from the UK
Interesting discussion and analysis - good job you two!
Back up everything TWICE. I learned this working with floppy discs! Really enjoy your joint videos.
Oh so sorry about 😞 your adorable boy 😔 Hope he may feel better 🩵🩵💫👏
Dr Babe & Lauren thank you so much for your timely podcasts.
I know you two will always give phenomenal truths.🩵
He appears confident and much less awkward in his recent court appearance which is strange considering what he's facing.
@@ap-mf8ch😂
He appears more confident because he's getting the 5 minutes of fame he wants.
This was so fascinating and what every true crime fan loves!!!!!!! This needs to be seen and heard !!!!!
Sorry I missed your live. Thank you Dr John and Lauren for all you do. Love from Nebraska❤️
You’re welcome!
wow..I listened so carefully..Amazing..
this was great to watch. thank you!
Just watched this video. Very interesting insight! This one really made me think. I always enjoy your content. You both go the extra mile.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is definitely the very best video on the alleged. Very thorough and comprehensive. thank you
My husband said the same thing abt crime and punishment. He’s a clinical psychologist. He thought also the cold, compulsive, obsessive traits were almost like he was in training, like a mercenary. Some the WWI/II mercenaries were vegan. Very structured and compulsive routines - like his running at night.
Give me a break. Well, Kopacka was an actual Marine. Next?
I’m happy to be on your list of listeners. Need facts and you both can tribute to that.
I really enjoy your perspective. Keep up the great work.😊
Bless you for persevering, and bringing us this important podcast, even w your house flooding and your son's situation!! Thank you.
Great show,I really enjoyed this,I didn't see it live but hopefully next time,ty
Rewatch crew! Great show! Love your take on this Doctor!
Hi from South Africa. Thank you for this program. I find it so interesting.
omg, I have 2 boys. Imagine your nearly 30 year old child finally leaving home for the first time, and then you see him months later and they've slaughtered 4 children! I can't imagine how his Mum is.
So refreshing listening to discussion about BK grounded in reality
I think Brians parents did unintentionally do him a disservice. He seemed to have a very long history of years and years and years of being extremely socially awkward. Certainly his parents noticed this and his siblings must have pointed it out over the years. They could have remained kind and addressed with him that he did have a problem that needed to be diagnosed and addressed. When your child is bleeding all of the time you do not slap bandaids on them ,say everyone bleeds and they will be fine. By not addressing his social issues with him and a good therapist they unintentionally put him in a position to just figure it out himself.
I think he possible decided on the course of action he took before he left and picked a last stand as far away from his family as he could get. As important as kindness and compassion are they do not diagnose or fix a mental illness or a brain defect anymore then a bandaid fixes constant bleeding.
he had a friend group in high school that said he was very comfortable when he was with them
We have no way of knowing whether they did that or not. Perhaps they did and it still didn't work.
I agree, but it's possible he refused therapy or could not accept that he was struggling and needed help. It might be a long time before we find this out
Spoken like someone who has never parented a socially awkward child. Therapy does not always work. Nice that you assume the parents did nothing to try and help
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Such competent thoughtful content. This was very interesting and out of the ordinary. You two bring an inspired twist to topics- I really appreciate it!!! ❤❤
Was a great show!!! BLESSINGS
His father also was protective of him. He drove all the way to Idaho to bring him home. He was sort of walking on eggshells around him.
I feel Dr. John did an amazing job on this podcast.
I wonder if BK’s parents ever got him help. As a parent, I feel it is our responsibility to get our children the help/supports they need when they are young - especially when there are clear signs of emotional struggles of any kind.
Thank you for this great assessment Makes perfect sense. Thank you.
Regarding the part about his mom, it does somehow ring similar to Brian Laundrie's relationship with his mom. I also found it interesting that when talking about her son, she never
expresses any mention of pride in his achievement of getting higher learning, moving ahead in life,etc. which I would think most normal parents would do. Yes, you miss them, but you are also happy they are succeeding in life ! Yet every word is only about herself and how horribly she is missing him. Maybe a small point for some, but put in context, it just adds one more flag in my mind.
Clearly this was not a "rational" crime with easy to explain logical motives. Bryan is obviously a complicated and twisted person. This was a train waiting to crash. Those poor kids that just happened to be there when it happened .......devastating !!!
I pray that the trial will bring justice ! Sadly, you can't bring back a child's life. Prayers for those
poor families. Just impossible to imagine.
I am so glad I found this channel. I appreciate the humanity and pointing to evidence to draw some conclusions. I could listen to both of you all day.
Dr. John as always this was very insightful! I’m glad you mentioned the correlation to Roberta Laundry bc I’ve always thought the mothering was similar.
You guys were my hidden gems not very long ago! I've noticed Lauren reverse that compliment to us and I am humbled by this!!
Love wins ❤ thanks for this kind comment and love your username!
@@HiddenTrueCrime Thank you! I truly appreciate everything you have done and continue to do to keep us informed. You 2 make a powerful team and I can't thank you enough!
So happy I stumbled onto your podcast!!!
Excellent analysis, Dr John. I usually have a difficult time following but you were on the money tonight. Way to stay organized and on track 🔥👏💯
analysis of a person he doesn't know, who has yet to be proven guilty??
@@nellyb2434 , yes and they caveated that didn't they? They took the information they do have, and gave a good analysis on the maybes of him and his mother...I think it was rather fair and well-done.
Just like you did on the good Doc here, people are allowed to judge our public lives. It's human nature and it's protective behavior, our judgements are used for daily survival. In this case, it was interesting and felt like a good introspection on human behavior. Yes, we're still not sure if these are the facts but given the info that's out there I believe it was fair and not over the top. We'll see what happens in court...until then, the public is allowed to speculate, huh?
@@janai5074 I agree to a point but there is speculation based on the facts and there is speculation based on what people think they know. I do not believe that a psychologist should take one sided stories and unconfirmed facts and call their video 'Bryan Kohberger Unmasked' based on rumours. It's completely unprofessional! If he was found guilty already, yes, but how does this man get a fair trial with so-called professionals posting videos like this?
Thanks for this discussion… learned a lot
Doctor Babe you are quite brilliant! Love you as a team.
Many mothers do the best they can! I'm a mom of a peculiar son and it's hard. And 6 and 7 are right next to one another. Also, being an introvert is not a bad thing.
The letter from his mother is so sad. It truly sounds like a very caring mother who is very upset and concerned about his departure across the country. The co-dependency is also out of this world. Some foresight into what has happened. Wow.
Bloody awesome. I really enjoyed this exploration. Keep up the good work.
When I listen to the description of Brian's social awkwardness, I can see my 18 year old autistic son's social awkwardness. It's something we have tried to teach, but social ques ordinarily come instinctively. They are so hard to teach. My boy has been in ASD programs since the age of 3.
so true
Totally understand. Really annoys me when people blame the parents. Even parents who do everything right can't always help our ASD kids learn to be less socially awkward... it is considered a disability for a reason
You’re a great mom supporting him since age 3. I don’t know your situation, but early intervention helps so much and he’s probably so much better for it. I think there’s the added obstacle of mixed social messages. Boys are often taught by society to “not give up!” and they mistake this for “don’t take no for an answer”, and sometimes you get creeps actually trying to teach this to impressionable young males, like the pick up artist / Andrew Tate types. It’s not social cues the guys are missing, but a flat out misunderstanding of what girls and women are, fully autonomous humans to be respected. My sister is already running circles for my 11 year old nephew who is learning nonsense from his friends who get nonsense online and social media, and my nephew is not on the spectrum.
Parenting boys these days is not easy.
I’ve seen plenty of kids with ASD, and their parents never did any much to help them, let alone since age 3. So your son is really lucky to have you.
My grandson too and now maybe my granddaughter. My son has bought into a children's sports franchise so he can spend his time with the kids as they develop working through sports, Mr. Momming-it, and special education programs. All of this is no guarantee of success for the children. We understand much more about special needs than we used to but in general society is not supportive in inclusivity. We have laws being changed with constant pushes to discriminate and hurt marginalized people and groups in our society in the USA. Our lack of quality of healthcare in general is inadequate. Our priorities as citizens has to include more than giving tax breaks to the wealthiest citizens. *EDIT: ADA requirements for education are not being met nationally with a rise in abuse of disabled children in public schools being reported. More goes unreported.*
That shows you that social awkwardness doesn’t lead to aggression at all… you need psychopathy element
I’ve been waiting for this update from y’all.
Great and very informative! Thanks so much!
This is very scary but make sense. Thank you Dr John and Lauren your questions are spot on. Really good episode. (I’m scared 😳)
He will never walk free. Hulking monster.
Innocent until proven guilty please
I'd love to know more about his parents and upbringing.
I would to.
@@Cruella-mm6qo too
Yep he’s got arrested development possibly a narcissist or psychopath . Starts at Home self absorbed parents aka one or two having the cluster b mindset. The objectified him he even said he feels empty
This sucks that a woman feels she has to have a guy back to her apartment so as to avoid conflict.
you have no idea if that is even true...
@@jakestans If its true that women feel scared to reject sme men because they fear retaliation? Oh thats definitely true!
@@jakestansShe must have felt that way. Hopefully, she didn't make it up for attention.
No way, it's not true, avoid it at all cost!
I can't imagine thinking about bringing me to my house to avoid conflict. I would be thinking, "Bring me to a public place where people will see me, and I can get away
I value everything dr. John said .....his words made so much sense of this.
Watching replay, I love your podcasts ❤😊
Replay crew here … an Idahoan with close ties to Moscow… I’m looking forward to hearing a fresh perspective ❤❤
Regarding parents, in winter and bad roads often a factor .... why would they fly dad to help him drive home for a month ... then was there a plan someone would drive with him for the next semester? Why not just fly BK home and back?
Did they perhaps have him ticketed then to avoid being tracked change to driving and having dad fly and escort?
Wow great analysis!!! Love your show!!
Thanks for the great live tonight!
This was very enlightening! These were things I hadn't considered.
In the 1st traffic stop, his Dad mentioned that Bryan works at the university. I didn't realize he had already been fired. I guess his father wasn't yet aware. His Dad is so proud of him, mentioning he's a PHD student. That would make it even harder to break the news to your parents that your getting ready to be possibly kicked out of the program and it would make his mom's worries about him all the more true.
Thank you for clarifying that this was before he was fired! It was smart of the University staff to let him know he was fired after he left the campus to PA.
We know the exact moment you’re taking about. Technically he hasnt yet been fired. The video was on 12/15 and he was fired on 12/19. His dad is proud and points to his son, and Bryan answers proudly too .
Bryan wasn’t aware either.
@@Candy-O1776he probably had an idea it was coming though. He had already had the altercation and then the meeting with the professor group, who would have told him a decision was coming.
He didn't know he was losing that job until he got back to Pa
@@straitbrady2057 he had a good idea it was coming. Had already been before the group of professors making the decision. These tiny little points are all the defense has and it’s waving paper in our faces to cover up the huge mound of actual evidence against him.
How in the world does a 13-year-old get a hold of heroin? That seems so bizarre to me Maybe I'm naive but I have a 14 almost 15-year-old son and I just can't imagine
Same
I have so many friends from back east and it's a serious serious problem up there. It seems like everyone is using, recovering, or passed on from heroin (and now fentynal). I guess it's just everywhere and easy to get.
I'm naive too. Kids can and do get ahold of drugs quite easily. My son told us how easy it was/is, and yes, it definitely starts in middle school.
In an upper middle class neighborhood, we had access to drugs in elementary school.
The average age that children leave home in America is between 24 and 27. I think we all left a lot earlier when we were younger because it was a lot easier to have a job and an apartment whereas now you couldn't have even a job that pays over minimum wage and have even a studio apartment if you wanted to. You couldn't afford it. At least in Washington State. Especially if they're in college full-time and can't work full-time. In my opinion if you're in a four-year college and then you're continuing education it's going to be extremely hard to leave home and there really isn't a reason to if you're genuinely furthering your education. I don't know I just never thought it was that strange he was still on. Imo🙂
I don't want mothers or even college students to feel guilty if they're still living at home at 24 and 25 right now at this time that is perfectly average and normal. Where you live really doesn't matter as long as you're working and possibly furthering your education. I don't see the point in moving out before your inner steady relationship when you want to live together. It's putting yourself into poverty and necessarily. Most of My friends and family's children of that age did not leave home permanently until between 26 and 30
I'm definitely not saying you guys are wrong or judging wrongly or anything like that I just simply don't want people that are normal regular people still living at home to feel bad. When it comes to Brian Yes it's part of the puzzle absolutely
By 27 most of us have left home at least once. I lived at home during college. Heck, i was living at home at 28. I also set off on my own for 6 months when I was 20, and then a year and a half when I was 22, etc.
But whether or not we think it’s unusual or not-we weren’t commenting on it being wrong or right. We were pointing out that Bryan Kohberger had not been away from home until just a mere couple months before the murders, and that his parents were likely buffer up until this major life change.
@@crystaldawn9255 I dont think its about him still being at home at that age alone....its also about his mums reaction to him leaving home. Most parents would know its healthy for kids to blossom and flee, far earlier. Even if they still may sleep at your house, they usually have lives of their own at that age and dont have a mummy worrying about them leaving.
Ty for makin it make sense..very insightful.. Nice job Dr. and wife thanks
Omg this was the best and most accurate review of this case and BK. Love your channel and content analysis. Keep up the great work.
I think here in the south, all of us mamas are like his mom. We do not do well when our kiddos move out. It is like a little grief because that season of our life is over.
When you talked about how he would go up to strangers and just ask to hang out when they’ve never met, it made me wonder if he’s been a serial stalker meaning he “knows” them and bc of that, had a severe distortion of the their closeness
His Dad asked a close neighbour across from his apartment to befriend him like a parent would an small child in school.
His wife got bad vibes from him and the friendship never happened .
His Dad was aware of his social awkwardness.
Autism can also manifest with some of these symptoms.
The prosecution has now come out and said there is no evidence of stalking