got this today 469€, it came with 25mm f1.7 + 12-32mm kit lens. I replaced my Panasonic LX-10/15 with this. I think this was a bargain. excellent camera for it's size. For 4K video I use Sony A7R III, so this was not a dealbreaker. Great camera. Loving it already.
Good review Lok. I have a G80 which is a very good bit of kit and I did look at the GX800 as a back up come pocket camera but it was the lack of manual controls that put me off, wasn't aware of the overheating. In the end I picked up a Canon M6 which is great, I didn't care about the lack of 4k on it because I already had that on the G80 but I wanted the manual controls and their dual pixel focusing system which is brilliant.
@@Photogearnews thank You for the answer, we have many vídeo captura box, el gato cam link, galga and Razer but the lumix gx800 only show the menu and the clip un the storage...no live vídeo... Only using the wifi conection we can get something live.... You are the only one that give me some response, i respect that, the lumix oficial sites ignores me
I have the GM5(previous generation), it's really a nice little camera. When they release the GX850/800 I was really happy to see the 4k recording capability, but sadly it over heats and don't have enough manual setting. Nice review Lok!
This is a problem with Sony as well, and the Smaller Panasonic GH85 only has Contrast detection so the auto focus is bad. Not a good camera for vlogging. Canon 200d seem to be the best camera for vlogging at the moment, also great price.
Dennis Olof Dennis Olof I have heard that about Sony too. I guess the technology is just not there yet. It’s been a long time since I use a canon, does the 200d offer 4k recording as well? Thanks
No the Canon 200d does not have 4k recording, but it is a solid camera. I am thinking about getting one soon. For me 1080p is still good. But if you need 4k you can get another more expensive camera. We will have to wait and see if Sony or the other brands can come out with a small 4k camera that does not overheat.
Dennis Olof Thanks. I will say Sony might be the first to solve the problem, but in the same time they might try to protect the sales of their s line(a7s or the future a9s) and purposely delay the technology...
Just imagine with me for a moment if you will. Nikon takes the cancelled DL 24-500 and replaces the lens with an F-mount and the guts with whats already in the D5600 (minus the mirrorbox and shutter of course) but same sensor, processor etc with the flange distance adjusted for F-mount. With all the same performance and features of a Sony a6000 like focus peaking etc. so it will use old Ai/AiS glass put in the metering tab like a D7000 series. The body is larger so it can have a bigger battery to take more shots and that will prevent overheating as well. It will take all Nikon F-mount glass natively. No advancement in sensor technology necessary. Maybe fix snapbridge so it works at least as well as Canon's camera connect app. This imaginary camera would completely murder Sony's consumer and probably even prosumer market share overnight.
Lok please review the Canon M100 when you get a chance. May seem like an unexciting camera (no 4k of course), but for a reasonable price you get the M5/M6 sensor and dual pixel af in a smaller and lighter package. Seems like an ideal vlogging camera just no mic input, but life's a compromise.
The GX85 has manual video controls and just a tad larger. Only thing this has on the GX85 is the flip up screen for shooting vlogs. For still photos, probably as good as GX85
Guys! LX100: 1.) doesn't overheat when shooting 4K 2.) manual controls when shooting video 3.) Great f1.7 lens with m4/3 + slight crop sensor 4.) Pretty good viewfinder The bad: 1.) No touchscreen, no flipscreen 2.) Also kind of weak stabilization, especially in 4K 3.) No mic in And I already own an LX100 so yeah. (Lok owns one too.) Here's hoping Panasonic addresses these issues on the LX200.
I'm going to keep my GX7 even it has no 4K video nor selife screen. It's still one of the best Panasonic M43 camera which balance well between size, outlook and functionality. Wanna have a little upgrade but I can't find one which really fits. GX8 feels too chunky, GX85 step up but back a bit st the same time, G85 is function wise but size like a entry-DSLR.
Biggest problem with gx800/850 is that while it's nice and small with the kit lens, it's optically outperformed by the premium compacts with 1" sensors with that lens because it's only f/3.5 at the wide. So to make it worth while you have to swap lenses for.fastwr primes or heavier faster zooms, which sacrifice the small size and light weight (or zoom ability) taking you even further from the pocketability of a premium compact. And if you are sacrificing the small size and light weight then you may as well go for a higher end body like the G7 which performs better, doesn't have the shutter / flash limitations etc but is same price range right now. If you really want compact get a 1" premium compact.
Quality Productions I have both, G7 and GX800, image quality it's the same but G7 is a better camera overall. Of course GX800 is almost pocketable and therefore I can carry it with me all the time, so I'm happy with both.
I spent a lot of time researching compact cameras with 1" sensor, Lumix LX10, Sony RX100 series, Canon G7 Mark II, all good options for a little companion, and I agree with you that you get a (slightly) better lens in those cameras that the pana 12-32, but don't underestimate this kit lens, it's really capable and sharp. Why I went for the GX800 over any of the 1" sensor compact cameras? because it's cheaper, and more versatile while the image quality its really really good.
thanks for all your videos that are very helpful. Im traveling often and i need a light and compact camera for street photografy for both photos and videos that can take sharp pictures and video in 1080 60p which camera you recommend Panasonic GX-800 or Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX80. Thank you
What would the difference be though? I mean you physically can't interchange lenses on something like that without making the lenses larger and moving to a focal plane shutter for a start.
A must? LOL How many ppl watches youtube on an actual 4k screen? 1%? Maybe less And 60fps aren't a must either unless u are playing some videogame or smth, why the fuck would u want that shit on a cinematographic vid lol
I wish Panasonic see this video. Instead of come out with gf10 /gx850 The only difference is the stupid grip. You guy should give this camera a firmware upgrade. Good firmware will make this baby sale like hot cake.
Panasonic really needs to refresh some sort of micro 4/3 compact line this is huge market and they pretty much gave it up to Sony. A poor decision in my opinion.
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You can control shutter speed for video by using Flkr Decrease in the Motion Picture menu. It lets you lock in a 1/25, 1/30, 1/50 or 1/120 shutter.
Thank you!
Mikeselsewhere are you kidding me bro? You just sold this camera to me! Haha
thank you sir!
got this today 469€, it came with 25mm f1.7 + 12-32mm kit lens. I replaced my Panasonic LX-10/15 with this. I think this was a bargain. excellent camera for it's size. For 4K video I use Sony A7R III, so this was not a dealbreaker. Great camera. Loving it already.
Good review Lok. I have a G80 which is a very good bit of kit and I did look at the GX800 as a back up come pocket camera but it was the lack of manual controls that put me off, wasn't aware of the overheating. In the end I picked up a Canon M6 which is great, I didn't care about the lack of 4k on it because I already had that on the G80 but I wanted the manual controls and their dual pixel focusing system which is brilliant.
You were a visionary with the Lumix G100. You said this at the end of the video, 3 years earlier.
indeed!!! hahaha
Is posible to use the micro HDMI yo do live streaming, i can't find the way to do it 😢
Help please!!!
You can livestream with any HDMI camera, you just need to grab a video capture box like the ATEM Mini or the more affordable Elgato HD60
@@Photogearnews thank You for the answer, we have many vídeo captura box, el gato cam link, galga and Razer but the lumix gx800 only show the menu and the clip un the storage...no live vídeo... Only using the wifi conection we can get something live.... You are the only one that give me some response, i respect that, the lumix oficial sites ignores me
I think this model don't let live video out of the micro HDMI interfaz
We have Two lumix gh5s and now problem
I have the GM5(previous generation), it's really a nice little camera. When they release the GX850/800 I was really happy to see the 4k recording capability, but sadly it over heats and don't have enough manual setting. Nice review Lok!
This is a problem with Sony as well, and the Smaller Panasonic GH85 only has Contrast detection so the auto focus is bad. Not a good camera for vlogging.
Canon 200d seem to be the best camera for vlogging at the moment, also great price.
Dennis Olof Dennis Olof I have heard that about Sony too. I guess the technology is just not there yet.
It’s been a long time since I use a canon, does the 200d offer 4k recording as well? Thanks
No the Canon 200d does not have 4k recording, but it is a solid camera. I am thinking about getting one soon. For me 1080p is still good. But if you need 4k you can get another more expensive camera. We will have to wait and see if Sony or the other brands can come out with a small 4k camera that does not overheat.
Dennis Olof Thanks. I will say Sony might be the first to solve the problem, but in the same time they might try to protect the sales of their s line(a7s or the future a9s) and purposely delay the technology...
Dennis Olof we're using a 200D for our vlogs at the moment. Awesome camera.
Overheating is a deal breaker. That is why I haven't gotten a Sony 6500
every small camera that shoots 4k has this problem
Just imagine with me for a moment if you will. Nikon takes the cancelled DL 24-500 and replaces the lens with an F-mount and the guts with whats already in the D5600 (minus the mirrorbox and shutter of course) but same sensor, processor etc with the flange distance adjusted for F-mount. With all the same performance and features of a Sony a6000 like focus peaking etc. so it will use old Ai/AiS glass put in the metering tab like a D7000 series. The body is larger so it can have a bigger battery to take more shots and that will prevent overheating as well. It will take all Nikon F-mount glass natively. No advancement in sensor technology necessary. Maybe fix snapbridge so it works at least as well as Canon's camera connect app. This imaginary camera would completely murder Sony's consumer and probably even prosumer market share overnight.
action cams and phones are even smaller, they also shoot 4k and they don't overheat
My Panasonic GX8 is quite small, I shoot 4K when it's +27 outside no problem.
Same with the GX80
And in turn the GX80 misses the vari-angle screen. Argh! Can't have it all.
I use it as a secondary camera with fisheye lens all the time
the no mic jack audio is awful, wonder what you are using to record your sound and the software to merge the audio and video from the Panasonic
Not sure if you can control video shutter speed in the anti flicker menu because my even older gx1 can
Tuco Lam Oh shit you can!! Never know that! Tuco thank you. Want to work at PGN lol!
At last, a practical and balanced review. No, bitching and grumbling about it's video limitations.
I consider GF9/GX800, LX100, RX100V or LX10 as my daily camera ... almost choose GF9 but no manual control for video is deal breaker for me :(
Lok please review the Canon M100 when you get a chance. May seem like an unexciting camera (no 4k of course), but for a reasonable price you get the M5/M6 sensor and dual pixel af in a smaller and lighter package. Seems like an ideal vlogging camera just no mic input, but life's a compromise.
The GX85 has manual video controls and just a tad larger. Only thing this has on the GX85 is the flip up screen for shooting vlogs. For still photos, probably as good as GX85
Droolius GX85 is good camera, the Ibis is impressive as well
Lok, try flipping out the screen it may reduce overheating.
Guys! LX100:
1.) doesn't overheat when shooting 4K
2.) manual controls when shooting video
3.) Great f1.7 lens with m4/3 + slight crop sensor
4.) Pretty good viewfinder
The bad:
1.) No touchscreen, no flipscreen
2.) Also kind of weak stabilization, especially in 4K
3.) No mic in
And I already own an LX100 so yeah. (Lok owns one too.)
Here's hoping Panasonic addresses these issues on the LX200.
I'm going to keep my GX7 even it has no 4K video nor selife screen. It's still one of the best Panasonic M43 camera which balance well between size, outlook and functionality. Wanna have a little upgrade but I can't find one which really fits. GX8 feels too chunky, GX85 step up but back a bit st the same time, G85 is function wise but size like a entry-DSLR.
And how about focusing on your gx7? Is it as good as canon m100 or so y a5100?
Biggest problem with gx800/850 is that while it's nice and small with the kit lens, it's optically outperformed by the premium compacts with 1" sensors with that lens because it's only f/3.5 at the wide. So to make it worth while you have to swap lenses for.fastwr primes or heavier faster zooms, which sacrifice the small size and light weight (or zoom ability) taking you even further from the pocketability of a premium compact. And if you are sacrificing the small size and light weight then you may as well go for a higher end body like the G7 which performs better, doesn't have the shutter / flash limitations etc but is same price range right now. If you really want compact get a 1" premium compact.
In many ways the GX800 is better than the G7.
Quality Productions which ways? G7 has mic input, uncrippled shutter / flash sync, manual modes during video, etc
Quality Productions I have both, G7 and GX800, image quality it's the same but G7 is a better camera overall. Of course GX800 is almost pocketable and therefore I can carry it with me all the time, so I'm happy with both.
I spent a lot of time researching compact cameras with 1" sensor, Lumix LX10, Sony RX100 series, Canon G7 Mark II, all good options for a little companion, and I agree with you that you get a (slightly) better lens in those cameras that the pana 12-32, but don't underestimate this kit lens, it's really capable and sharp. Why I went for the GX800 over any of the 1" sensor compact cameras? because it's cheaper, and more versatile while the image quality its really really good.
I agree with Adventures in Fabrication. Plus, I'm waiting for Canon so I can use all my gear!
who wants to see Lok attach a Canon Ef 100-400mm lens to the GX800?
Nice review!
thanks for all your videos that are very helpful. Im traveling often and i need a light and compact camera for street photografy for both photos and videos that can take sharp pictures and video in 1080 60p which camera you recommend Panasonic GX-800 or Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX80. Thank you
I think Panasonic made a mistake with the GX850, it should have been an interchangeable lens version of an LX100.
What would the difference be though? I mean you physically can't interchange lenses on something like that without making the lenses larger and moving to a focal plane shutter for a start.
You didn't mention bad video AF. 1:50
great video ! Thank you
Deal breaker...stabilisation....it’s really important for any video
What about O.S.S in the lens?
No mic input?!?! Next please...
G7 has one and is currently priced similarly
I want Lok to review the Canon 200d, use it for a while and then make a review.
+Dennis Olof well you got stuck with me reviewing it (@richsibley)
HAHA, that is OK. I was more thinking of long term use and then a review. Thanks.
Lack of 4K should never be a deal-breaker for RUclips videos - just saying.....
A must? LOL
How many ppl watches youtube on an actual 4k screen? 1%? Maybe less
And 60fps aren't a must either unless u are playing some videogame or smth, why the fuck would u want that shit on a cinematographic vid lol
I thought this is more better than my GX85, unless the microphone jack and flip monitor
I'm an old man. No viewfinder, no buy.
Lok....... no.... 20m f1.7 is not focusing fast enough....
The panny 20mm 1.7 doesn't focus fast on anything. Avoid it for video, unless you're going manual focus or disabling continuous AF (locking focus).
I wish Panasonic see this video. Instead of come out with gf10 /gx850 The only difference is the stupid grip. You guy should give this camera a firmware upgrade. Good firmware will make this baby sale like hot cake.
Cool.
Also am I the only one that skips almost all the videos that don't contain Lok?
Black Cat thanks buddy!
I prefer you Rich :D Personal tastes and all...@@RichardSibley
4K is so unnecessary for most people and someone buying a small camera like this will not expect stunning 4k
Panasonic really needs to refresh some sort of micro 4/3 compact line this is huge market and they pretty much gave it up to Sony. A poor decision in my opinion.
Close, but no. Why not just make a vlogging camera?
so its a wierdeo camera... with overheat 4k, and auto wierdeo
Thumbs up for lok. Thumbs down for the camera.
Image quality no better than cameras years older.
Overheating.
Average lens.
Average stabilisation.
No thank you.