Talking Watches 2 With Pras
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- It's no secret that Talking Watches is one of our most popular editorial series here at HODINKEE. I was a big fan of it long before I joined the team, obviously. So when Will asked me to host the first Talking Watches to revisit a collector and see how a collection had evolved over time, I jumped at the opportunity. Like Ben, who hosted the first appearance with this guest, I was a fan of the Fugees going all the way back to the heady days of middle school in suburbia. Their second album, The Score, was one of those records that practically everybody was rocking out to to back then, and it's held up remarkably in the two decades since. If you had told seventh-grade Jon that he'd be sitting next to Pras as he pored over an insane collection of Pateks and APs in 20 years, he probably would've puked. But here we are. This is your official Talking Watches 2 With Pras. For the full story, go to www.hodinkee.c...
I was always wondering how only 1 smash record from over 30 years ago translated into a multi-million dollar watch collection. Now it all makes sense…
Came back here to confirm that his collection was as crazy as I thought it was…makes a whole lotta sense now
@@edmondthompson7525 I think the saying goes, “behind every great fortune is a great crime”.
Hahaha came back to this video just to see the comments after the community put it all together.
When I heard the news, first thing I thought about was this episode of talking watches.
Heck, even in the first episode, he even talks about visiting the Middle East. We all now know what he was doing there 😅
Am here too after just seeing his involvement, now I see how the watches came from :D :D
where is Talking Watches With Jho Low, Ben?
"Im not a big diamond guy".....then he whips out his peacock. I love it
Vernon estes Actually started laughing out loud
I generally don't like diamond watches either but I have to admit that this one was gorgeous. Completely different to other diamond watches and a real work of art. Rules always have exceptions.
Compared to other rappers, this guy’s collection is way less bust down, so to speak.
That's a phoenix, a Chinese mythical bird. Ain't a peacock!
@@suhinoh1785 ohhh it’s a chicken! Got it
Still waitin for that talking watches with Ben Clymer himself... I'd love to see him talk about his collection
Also, at 3:58, did he just say "finest"?... If so, that pronunciation is hilarious. He pronounced it like, "Finn-ist"... bruh, it's "Fine-est"
If he said a different word, please tell me, cuz otherwise that is the funniest mispronunciation I have ever heard.
James Shives "Thinnest"
Ben Clymer has two watches: Patek 3940, and Lange 1815 Chrono.
What? No he doesn't, he's got a lot more. There's a video by Mr. Porter that shows a part of his collection, basically a mini-version of Talking Watches
Sam Zelenka ah, ok, thanks, I could not figure out what he said, surely it wasn't finest, but that's all i could think about
How many diamond watches does a guy need to have before he is a diamond guy?
Stephen Rose lol
go check out DJ khaled lol
Chen Liu I'm surprised if DJ Khaled owns a single non-diamond-encrusted watch. Or that he can name 5 luxury brands, for that matter.
Stephen Rose exactly what I was thinking
Stephen Rose 27
I’m not a big diamond guy he said....
lol didn't he say that in the last interview?
He did. Everytime it's "I'm not really a diamond guy but I bought this diamond watch cuz you know, diamonds."
Adam Ramazanov sooooo fun!
Cut to the peacock
That's why he is wearing small diamonds :P
Talking Watches ToDo List:
4. Clinton
3. Ellen
2. Clapton
1. Archibald Chesterfield the Third
Andrew Slinn + Jennifer Anniston
Andrew Slinn
Who the hell are Clapton, Clinton and Ellen?
They're FUKAZ!
Herman Ingram sorry but that's ironical right???
Vince Ohh, man. I'm just imagining a Talking Watches with Archie, and I can't think of anything better.
Ridiculous collection. I mean that in a complimentary way.
I'm completely amazed at how Pras has the best watch collection in hip-hop.. Jay-z gets all the credit.. But Pras is out here on the top of every AP & Patek waiting list
Didn’t age well
@@noelgray3437 why is that?
@@TylerC_ don’t get me wrong pras definitely has a great collection but to say Katz gets all the credit is weird in itself jay has a crazy collection
This collection is lame....anybody can go out and spend money??? Buy all expensive stuff?? Real collectors would have Seiko, independent makers like gauthier, claret, moser....etc etc etc. this is just I’m rich and somebody said AP & Patek are the best???
@@mikecooper3epstudios that’s like saying real car collectors need to own a toyota to be considered a car collector
When the skills of the interviewer can be summarised to pointing at watches and saying, 'so thats a ...' this could hardly be entertaining. Where is the story...
'Not a diamond guy' - has several diamond watches, including one entirely covered in diamonds
WE NEED SOME MAYER!! A part 2 would be awesome ☺
Yes, but I don’t want to see anymore IWC big pilots!
You mean part 3?
Yes pleaseee
His collection kinda turned into bling bling these days
Yes please!
“Working on political agendas…”
I'd like to see a Talking Watches with a big time Swatch collector. There's got to be someone out there who owns like every model or something.
Genuinely would be interesting. A collection of really modest watches with really interesting stories. Would beat Pras' 18 variations of the Royal Oak
Well, I know someone with, like, 1500 Swatches from 1983-2000 vintage. Any interest?
How the fuck does Pras have so much money?
4478nick Uhhh the Fugees sold 18 million copies of The Score. It was the highest selling hip hop album ever, at the time.
4478nick the score is a 6x platinum album
He's either a rapper, a basketball player or a drug dealer.
Most likely took the cash he made in the 90s and made smart investments.
Ty John 100%
You guys missed his sky moon! how could you?!
You need to get Ellen D. and Adam Levine on this show!
Pras's collection is unbelievable
Jon Lock Dude, Adam Levine's collection is incredible!
Ellen is all rolex. Only rolex lol
No thanks to Ellen
Ellen is just a n endless collection of Rolexes... enough of that.
ain't the same without Ben Clymer..
I’m guessing Pras isn’t getting a Part 3
Much respect to Pras for living a great life under the radar.
Yikes
Talking watches: Ryan Gosling and his vintage collection
this would be huge...
At least he spent the Chinese spy money with taste
These episodes should include "normal"people collections with watches from $200 to $5000. That would be great
From what I can tell Pras' box is worth somewhere in the neighborhood of 4M USD.
I do get a kick out of people who still hold on to their first watch which tends to be something more modest before pulling out stuff this is far too expensive for most people. I do wonder if some of these people free pressured to show only their high end watches vs what they might wear every day which won’t gather much attention.
Best episode of talking watches by a mile
Have watched this 3 times now
The ladies I know wear Michael Kors, Boccia and Swatches 🤣
Those and way too many Michele's...terrible watches.
Why are Boccia and Swatch terrible? They both are well made for what they cost, are accurate and come in styles for different tastes. Both have pedigree´s as well, Boccia is owned by Tutima and well, Swatch is Swatch. I don´t know enough about Michael Kors but judging by the number I see on peoples wrists they must have something going for them.
ianmedium Nothing wrong with them, Ian.
I just thought his statement was funny about him only knowing women who wear AP and Patek 😉
LOLOL why do girls like Kors watches so much? LOL cuz of the bags they make too?
WOW THOSE WORLD TIMERS. I wouldn't consider myself a diamond guy either, but that world timer is quite subtly stunning.
Came back to this, and frankly the comments are ugly. This is a very impressive collection, even if it is more focused on watches as symbols of wealth, success, and power- which has always been an important part of the industry and the appeal of luxury watches.
There is class here, and real taste of a different kind.
dude is likely adjacent to human trafficking
One of my fav talking watches ngl
"Political agendas".... It's all clear now.
I am shocked about some of the replies sizing Pras up as made it with "music, sports if not he is a criminal". Its painful to read that a man who proudly presents his watches paid with talent gets such remarks. Shame on you who replies in this fashion.
@hodinkee please remove hateful comments.
Knobexploit music electronics Free speech. Sometimes I don't like what peopls say either, but they are free to say it. They just make themselves look like fools anyway
Knobexploit music electronics also, he did make it with music, so... whats the problem with that? Sports? Is that somehow degrading? Drug dealer...
Yeah, that's insulting, and I agree, but the other things?
James Shives don't be a fool those are all remarks to say that all a rich black man can do to make money is be a rapper are a drug dealer
There is a difference between buying watches and collecting watches.
And Pras, just buys. Boring!
I disagree😃
I disagree😃
lgstron agreed.
lgstron and you do neither
Talking watches with AC3/Paul Pluta plz
That would be awesome. The Pontif. The Governors governor!
“they’re all shitters!!!”
NO CHANCE.... FUCKAS!
hope he stashed all his watches, yo pras if you're reading this ill hold one til you get out
Watches are a fashion statement for Pras and his collection is an ostentatious show of wealth. Hodinkee and 'Talking Watches' are about so much more than that and this video does both brands a disservice.
Your jealousy is getting the best of you
Damn i love that peacock honestly.
Crazy super ultra awesome high end watch collection !
can anyone tell me what travel case pras uses to carry his watches???
I like this guy as an interviewer he seems a bit more vocal although ben is still great
A very successful guy shows us one of the most stunning collections on the tube and there is surprisingly so much hate thrown at him.
He may not have the same level of knowledge as Ben but you can tell he likes collecting and learning about the subject.
eco8gator great comment sir so true.
agreed so many of the negative comments are only on videos featuring minority collectors. You go to other tw videos with guys with collections of multiples it's welcome to he's so cool town. heck a whole video on the big pilot collection of John Mayer didnt get this level of negativity
VuittonPrince The problem is he can barely speak proper english and has trouble articulating ideas, not his race. I do not speak fluent gangsta nor do I aspire to.
I wasn't aware in the watch collecting orientation speaking fluent english was a requirement. you state his race is irrelevant yet stated he speaks gangsta. I wasn't aware that because someone's grammar isn't up to your standard that means they speak the vernacular of criminals. backhanded racism is still racism no matter how articulate and coated in sugar it may be covered up with. I'm glad hodinkee sees timepiece collecting isn't about race. a hobby based on a love of these machines. maybe more time should be focused on the watches and less on discussing someone's speech or taste. since this is a very subjective hobby.
I wasn't aware in the watch collecting orientation speaking fluent english was a requirement. you state his race is irrelevant yet stated he speaks gangsta. I wasn't aware that because someone's grammar isn't up to your standard that means they speak the vernacular of criminals. backhanded racism is still racism no matter how articulate and coated in sugar it may be covered up with. I'm glad hodinkee sees timepiece collecting isn't about race. a hobby based on a love of these machines. maybe more time should be focused on the watches and less on discussing someone's speech or taste. since this is a very subjective hobby.
Pras is a hiphop OG...amazing collection of watches
I can't imagine owning 18 watches from the same two brands.
Peter Ward patek and ap.. i wouldnt mind owning 18 watches from those 2 brands respectively.
That would be me if I will ever afford F.P Journe and A Lange & Söhne watches. These are the only brands I am interested in. And of course, Grand Seiko.
There’s no depth to this interview...
Why cause he's black?
BigDutchKingTut I don’t agree with what the other guy said but you can’t just jump to that conclusion dude, has nothing to do with what he said
Go workout in the gym with your $40k Patek...
JBOsurf It's more than that, bro
I work out with an offshore
Haha...I was thinking the same thing. Did he really suggest working out with a Patek!? Man I couldn't even afford those watches even if someone gave them to me for free...having to get all those watches serviced every 3 to 5 years would wipe me out.
Damn you ballin
Yes, inappropriate and embarrassing.
not sure this has aged well, maybe the lawyers will use this video
"In the last four or five years, Patek has been that watch." This guy has money, and loves watches...but he knows nothing about watches.
thumperjdm What he means is it has become more mainstream in the past 4-5 years, kinda replacing AP in the music community. First was Rolex to AP to Patek. Everyone talks about and has to have one.
thumperjdm he's referring to their mainstream presence as opposed to just being appreciated by the community.
i'm pretty sure he knows a lot more about the Patek market than the most of us... he's damn rich lol
He has money. He has great watches. He has them because he has money, however I don’t believe he wudda bought them if they weren’t expensive or more appropriately exclusive. I don’t believe he actually understands or even has a sincerest interest in horology.
thumperjdm it is obvious he is investing and learning more and more about watches. In my personal opinion he has the best collection I have ever seen on the channel. I even think the Patek with all the diamonds had a high level of sophistication, which shows he is doing his homework. Some people just can't articulate as well as others.
This has got to be the most uninspiring TW I've seen so far. I know.. different folks, different strokes, but this whole collection was just about one-upping his PP and AP touting peers.
Totally agree. I wish Hodinkee sticks to true enthusiasts not just people who can afford silly expensive watches but have no interesting story to tell.
I thought the story about the president of Haiti and the all black Patek was pretty good. I mean,... I don't have anecdotes like that.
How many watches in his collection can you afford delicate boy ?
Ya no wonder he can have such amazing pieces, all from stolen monies from 1mdb. Shame on you pras n hodinkee for covering this crook!😊
Every last one gone…the feds seized all of them
Pras came out guns blazing for round two. I personally like seeing vintage and a little of every brand, but this is one of the best Patek collections I’ve seen
Also classic moment from 8:00 where Pras explains to the Hodinkee viewers why Patek is such a significant brand. It turns out it has nothing to do with their history, their designs or their movement making - it's because thats the brand that women who chase rappers prefer.
Edward Johnstone that was cringe inducing. This guy basically collects Pateks because it gets him pussy. If I’m this guy and on a date with a woman and she’s going on about how she wants a Patek, first thing I ask her is how she plans on going about obtaining one.
Talking splurging money with Hodinkee
Oh wow! Keep 'em coming. My favourite series.
Out of everyone to do a part two with...
4:06 "I call it the peacock. Obviously because of the bird beside it". Its a phoenix!!!
Han Toh thank you!!! I stopped watching the video at that second. It’s just a display of “look how much I have”, instead of passion. Good collection, but he is there from the wrong reasons. I would rather have a guy talking about his $50 watches collection if he at least shows real knowledge and passion.
And yes please someone tell him that’s a Phoenix so he at least knows that, think it as community service or good will educating him.
Completely agree with you! It is an impressive collection but I think many of Hodinkee's viewers see past the "i got this because it's black", "limited edition" and "diamonds", and want to learn and understand the history and story of the watches. A great overview of his watch collection but, sadly, to the wrong audience.
personagc So, because he couldn't identify a bird correctly, that is a display of "look how much I have", and "no passion"?
He's got passion. And alot of money... So many people hating on this episode, while I actually enjoyed it. Give me some proper reasond why you think he lacks passion, because I see exactly the opposite. He is not the only one with absurd amounts of money to appear on talking watches... alot of money does not equal zero passion
@@personagc typical rapper type of vulgarism
Excellent video and presentation -- thank you for the range of diverse guests and approaches to collecting.
Anyone noticed the museum patek at the top right? Why didn't they feature it in this video?
3 years later his collection gained 200%!
HOLD ON!! on that watchbox shot at the end he had a patek constellation!!!! why was that one not spoke about?!!!
Back in court again in April 2023, this time with DiCaprio testifying about Pras's lavish spending with stolen money.
7:44 - "You come out of the womb, the first thing you hear is Rolex"
LOL!
Haha Pras nearly lost it at 8:24...
My favorite part of the video. Haha, amazing.
Political agendas...
Impressive collection, impressive taste. that minute repeater is hot
I'm not really a big diamond guy... cuts to 4:07
“ I get certain pieces before the demand explodes” well he was right
Anybody know what watch case he has those in?
www.kingsleynorth.com/skshop/product.php?id=99023&catID=1114
If Rolex is MC Donald's then Patek is Red Lobster, I wear watches from the corner Taco guy. Great collection and mad knowledge.
LOL! You can hear the passion and knowledge....he's obsessed like me as a watch collector with a lot more money :-)
Red Lobster!!!!LOL You put a chain joint in the likes of Patek. They don't even use real lobster in their dishes. You mean more like Eleven Madison Park or Le Bernardin.
I don't understand all the negative comments? It is as if most people are angry that Pras is able to afford these timepieces. If Pras wasn't a watch guy, he wouldn't spend so much money on watches. He could easily buy other things that would flaunt his wealth more. But the guy clearly loves watches and just because he may not be as knowledgeable as other guests, shouldn't mean his passion isn't as great as theirs.
It’s because he’s black
👍🏼 That amigos is a Watch Collection !!
You really need to know John Goldberger.
"You would have to know what this is to know what this is" - Pras
Watching this I'm reminded of an old saying. "Knows the price of everything and the value of nothing"
I messaged Pras a couple weeks ago about his watches and he replied and we had a little chat shit was epic
Bring on Part 3 baby, just to piss these fools some more lol
Noooooo!
yes and hopefully they get someone at Hodinkee that knows how to do better interviews
"Bitches love my Pateks and AP's"...the state of haute horology
That is just an insanely cool collection
I love the Pras episodes. It would cool to do a talking watches with a roundtable of a few prior guests bringing their 3 fav watches and discussing what is coming next etc.
Cheers
Thought part one was hands down the worst TW to date and I️ know a lot agree with that. What were they thinking with a part 2? I️ mean dude... the peacock?!?
The Best Collection I’ve Seen!!!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
First let me say, he's kicking Patek's ass. He has a bank of Pateks there. All amazing pieces. But...The Patek World time with Diamonds? That just defeats the whole design of the world time.. It's supposed to be elegant, even conservative. Not only that but the hands on that 7130 are from the ladies reference.. So he went out of his gender (which is fine) to buy the model with diamonds but then says hes not into diamonds? (while the camera of course is fixated on that wrist wrapped in precious metals and diamonds)
Does Anybody know the watch box Pras uses?
Hodinkee please don't ever make a part 3 of this.
Not even 45 seconds in he says he's been working on "political agendas" 😂😂😂 I knew showing off the watches got him caught but damn
What is the watch on the top right at 9:03? Patek?
I always say your first minute repeater will always your most special minute repeater
Not a fan of the Patek advanced research...bit ugly..Actually all of those pateks are kind of boring or gaudy ..same for the APs.. Who makes these brands the holy trinity? JLC, Lange, Zenith, and VC are either classier or "cooler" for me...
If Patek released a turd with an escapement inside rappers would still buy it.
Talking watches with Ben Clymer (the cool hunting video does not count); Ben, we've been asking for a few good solid years now, time to pull your hipster socks up and do it!
This is so shallow it puts me off PP and AP. Calling a phoenix a peacock and bird, longing for an all black Nautilus as an ultimate piece. Yuck!
Patek has just come along in the last 5 years? God bless new money.
I don't know how many times i watch this videos.
This is money not taste
Don't know what it is, maybe the voices maybe the total lack of charisma, but these two bore me to tears. I couldn't manage more than 3 minutes. Utter ditchwater.
Who makes the watch case in the video? looks comfy
www.kingsleynorth.com/skshop/product.php?id=99023&catID=1114
Where is the Casio f-91w in the collection? :D
first TW I've turned off midway. just boring high end shit. seems like he just left his credit card behind the AD's counter and told them to swipe whenever something new came in, no matter how blingy and garish.
CologneShow He just has different tastes... and is very well off. I don't necessarily share his tastes, but nothing wrong with this one, you can definitely tell he's got passion for this stuff, which is, at the end of the day, what this is all about
I didn’t even go past the first 30 secs. Pateks and APs.. yawn.
The 5959 and some others aren't what you would expect from this though
His collection is high end main stream. He probably can profit selling off his collection, can’t say for most collection
Sure, lots of high end stuff but the guy knows his watches. Come back to this in 6 months.
Where dat skymoon tourbillon Boiiiii?
Damn...that Patek chrono black dial. That's beautiful.
How’d you not ask to sound off the minute repeater???
If pras was white with a European accent people would be praising his collection, but since he’s not he’s just some rapper who spends his money on expensive watches he knows nothing about hmmm
Anyone know what case that is?
A NUT-CASE!
llllllooooooooooooolllllllllll
www.kingsleynorth.com/skshop/product.php?id=99023&catID=1114
imagine is he left this case in a train and i was there too looolll