How To Identify Low Grade (No Date) 1916 Standing Liberty Quarter
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Serious flex video with a 1916 in 65. The closest I'll ever get to seeing one.
Thank you so much for this great video!! ❤ I've been holding on to a half dozen no date, no star standing quarters because I couldn't figure out how to identify the 1916. Thanks to your video, I was able to identify one! I'm sending it to ANACS for authentication. *THANK AGAIN!!*
Super video, very informative. As kids we saw dateless quarters all the time of course but never knew if one of them was a 1916 and never will know. Takes some time to be able to pick up on those subtitles. On another topic, I often wondered why it was so easy to tell 1921 Morgan Dollars from the rest and finally picked it out. The chin on the 21's is very sharp and pronounced compared to the rounded and better looking chin on the rest of them.
I bought a 1916 no date for 5 bucks because the pawn shop didn't know. I sold it for 1600 after having it certified PO1 by PCGS.
There are a couple other diagnostics that can be used to differentiate a 16 from a 17. One of them is the way the robe drapes from Liberty's outstretched arm, and the other is with the detail on the podiums on either side of her. Those, and the ones you mentioned, are how I confirmed the PO-01 example I have is legit. Nice video.
There's another clear identifier on the obverse that for some reason nobody seems to know about. If you look at the drapery running from the shield to liberty's right hand, on the 1916 it sits on the top of the wall but on the 1917 and beyond it hangs down over the front of the wall. The key is that that causes the folds in the drapery to be different, particularly the location of the deepest fold (the one that collects the most grime and appears as a dark line on even the most worn coins). On the 1917, that fold (and dark line) crosses in front of the vertical drape hanging down from her shoulder. On the 1916, it's farther to the left (liberty's right), under her upper arm.
So good at explaining the unique nuances to specific coins. Like the weak "N" on an 1877 Indian penny. I have learned alot from you
That ms65 tho, woooo! Mucho cliente (non spanish speaker).
Thanks Ben, never knew they were so different. Learned something new today!
The robe drapery on Liberty's right (left side of coin) arm is different between 16 & 17 as well.
The shield is an easy place to start, not even looking at its shape. The worn down 1916 ones will have a shield without the dots, whereas the worn down 1917 ones will still have the dots. The 1917 ones you show in the video are a good example of this, that even in the very worn down condition, the dots on the top part are clearly visible. Google an image of a 1916 graded one in Poor or Good or VG condition and you will see the difference I'm talking about.
I have a 1915 in great condition.
Thanks for the bullet points differentiating between 16 & 17 type1s!
Very good video I have been collecting for almost 40 years and I'm still learning thanks geek
I have been collecting since 1965! Only recently found out you can bring up the date on a dateless standing liberty quarter with acid treatments. I found a 1921 in my junk pile.
I’ve tried to figure out the diagnostics for the 16 vs 17-T1, but I’m still not clear. I’d love to know what the grading companies use. Maybe your “buddy” Albanese could shed some light. 😜
BEWARE: There are several 1917 quarters on ebay right now that are touted as being 1916. Once you get down to G-4 and lower grades, the shield will NOT show stars/rivets on the shield. The find of my life was 2 years ago when I ordered "dateless standing liberty quarters" from Apmex. Soon as I poured the roll out on the table, I spotted a type 1 with full rims. It was a 1916 that I paid $4.84 for.
I agree with someone lower in the comments. The shield rivets on the 16 are almost always completely obliterated on low (even mid grade) coins. The 17 will usually show at least some sharp rivets even on a poor coin.
Hi, Ben. You forgot to let me know ahead of time that you were dropping a video. I need the heads-up to beat some of these guys. Remember to notify me next time.
Are we going to get a video on that dual toned 1896 Morgan in MS68? I remember the 67+ for $3,700… that 8 holder blows it away.
Wow coin of the day! I would love to have 1, but than again I would like to pay off my house.
I do but slick type 1s just in case. I go through the ones I have every few months in hopes I missed something. Plus they’re fun to give new collectors.
Yeap yeap, algorithm trolley 🚎
So glad I discovered you! Thanks to you I now know my quarter is a 1917. But is it fake since I dont have dots & dashes?
I look forward to looking for your other videos and hopefully learning a thing or two!!
Awesome video, beautiful coins
I have zero clue what you mean when talking about how the drapery is different
The stars on the shield are not well struck in the 16. They will be clear and stand out on a well worn 17.
I have one more of an error coin it has visible die break
At first blush, what was Hermon Atkins MacNeil thinking?
I’m still not sure what year mine is lol I think there’s a M on the bottom right. It looks different slightly then both of these (it’s pretty worn out)
Hi Donald
Hi Steve. 😘
Sorry, I meant her forearm, not her upper arm.
I know a guy who found a 1916 using these tricks in a big bag of coin silver
Tengo una de cuarto de dólar de estatua de pie 1918 la vendo
So were any of the low graded coins from 1916? Still a bit hard to tell.
How do I get it graded I have one 1916
Ben what no mention of price of a $25,000 key date, nonchalantly
It wasn't the point of the video :)
@@TheCoinGeek always enjoy your content,
Maybe not the point but to some of us who at 43 have a total savings of 123 bucks in their retirement account, seeing a coin like that is like seeing your neighbor drinking Blantons bourbon out of the holy grail. It’s just badass. Love your channel man. Keep up the good work!
Old slick coins are cool because the coins actually took part in history. Old standing liberty quarters are a good choice for collectors with a toe licking, fat foot fetish.
Die break on the reverse
if that 1916, ms 65, is yours, then you are a rich man!
Привет всем у меня есть 1916 года в хорошем состоянии на продажу
NOT FIRST!
On the bright side . . . you were the first from New Mexico!
@@stevedietrich8936 LOL, Steve. THAT'S RIGHT! YEA!
Interesting video. I appreciate every single thing you pointed out.
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