Washed is a strong word… you’re comparing him to his prime. OKC is still young and could need the Championship experience from a player like him if they reach WCF and NBA finals. And he does not need to be signed to a long term contract. It can be an expiring one around the time their younger core will need new contracts. Klay is a very good addition short term especially offensively and for the spacing. He shot 38.7% from 3 on 9.0 attempts. If that’s washed then that only speaks on hiw good he actually is.
@@Zemlja_je_ravnathey don't NEED to go spend their cap no, but it's alot more efficient teambuilding to use that money while your guys are on rookie deals, then extend them later on with their bird rights. That gives them a very real chance to contend now, whoever they use that money on may walk after their contract but they'll have young guys ready to step in
@@Triads297 that’s part of why I’m thinking Isaac. Idk what his trade value is, but I doubt it’s anything crazy. Feels like it could reasonably happen.
Grizzlies haven't had their off season yet. Everyone forgets that they are a top 3 seed when healthy. Ja and JJJ about to hit their prime at the same time.
I am conflicted with this. While I think the reason this offense was so good last season was because of the spacing Chet provided without giving up any defense, rebounding and size was a real big issue during the playoffs. You have two options to fix that. Hope that Chet makes the next step and get rid of that weakness or find a person who can fix that. I don't think the thunder sound find a traditional big to do that because it'll hamper their offense so again I'm am really conflicted with that
@@ICantBuuItAnymoreokc got better after the deadline being a middle rebounding team the problem isn’t chet at the 5 the problem is being undersize at the forward position jdub needs to be a 3 and okc need big forward at the 4 spot and another backup big
Bobby portis is on the trade market now and okc should try to get him, the bucks need a Beasley replacement and okc has plenty of those type of players.
@@curtisrobertson3342not sure okc would do that deal. Joe is a legit sniper. Okc has cap space to play with they don’t NEED to get rid of guys in trades
Isaiah Joe too important I’d rather Klay tbh. Okc still needs size to help Chet at the end of the day and trading Memphis for Steven Adams easily brings an additional 8-13 defensive rebounds a game, then moving in transition with with sga Jaylen and klay would be crazy
Dude a defensive lineup of OG, Dort, Chet, Shai, and JDub with Caruso off the bench would be crazy. But if he wants too much money, then getting Val plus Klay would fantastic. Crazy rotation of Shai, Chet, JDub, Dort, and Klay with Val, Caruso, Isaiah Joe, Cason Wallace and Aaron Wiggins plus somebody from the draft is fucking insane. And the crazier part, is that that lineup is barely even touching all of their draft picks. At this point, Presti is my goat.
@@ry_an.we have 4 open roster spots and a million picks, we don’t need to get rid of Dort. He’s a legitimate 3 point shooter now while locking up star players. Caruso I think would make the second unit better than Dort, and Caruso is fine doing that. Besides that it’s the closing minutes that matter the most and I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lineup with Caruso and Dort out there depending on what’s needed.
Y’all have to understand Chet is the 5 any 5 okc gets will be a backup okc going to get big forward to help Chet and move jdub to the 3 and get a backup big Also do not believe in these rumors okc been link to players all the time and is never true especially in the draft okc typically don’t let information get out
I seriously don't understand how people can look at the season they just had with Chetter Bob anchoring the defense and boldly continue to preach that they need a "real center" 🤦🏿♂️😂
@@BigRedWave2024 because he held luka to 25 ppg in the dallas series, he is a top 10 defensive guard in the league and sacrificing that for some rebounding would be a mistake
I definitely disagree with your take that Chet can’t be the 5. I dont think he should be playing the 4 where much more mobile players are going to torch him on the perimeter. He should be protecting the rim, and also having 2 bigs would really mess up their play style that they’ve built on (drive and kick, 5 out, forcing turnovers and getting out in transition)
@@brianbadonde9251 just say you didn’t watch okc they lost due to poor shooting not because the style didn’t work also the Celtics literally run the same playstyle with minor changes
I been a thunder fan since 2009 and this is the most excited I been for this team since 2016. If we can develop Chet and J-dub to be at least all stars then SGA, Chet, and J-dub could be a better trio or as good of a trio as KD, Westbrook, and Harden.
Does anybody remember why he chose Boston over Miami? I remember in 2017 free agency, all the signs were pointing him to sign for the Heat. Then all of a sudden, Boston came along
@@ColdHoops home turf, have you seen the boston crowd? He was looking for the market money; all the boston boys buying hayward jerseys lol. You need to have some spice for a white boy to pop off in miami.
@@beef2503 using box score plus minus is a terrible way to analyze a player especially if you didn’t watch chet was extremely impactful defensively it was offensively that was the problem for him he couldn’t hit a 3 The mavs was struggling to score in the for majority of that series due to chet just offensively chet couldn’t hit a shot Also shai was a complete negative against the mavs if we use box score plus minus even though he was the best player in that series or 2nd best
Giving 30-35 million a year to a washed Thompson is stupid. He got benched on a team that barely made the play in and missed the playoffs, how would he start for a contender ?And I can tell you with a million % certainty that they are not gonna go after Valanciunas. O.G. is going to demand too much money and too many years, making extending both JDub and Chet impossible so that is also a pipe dream. The only guy you mentioned that has even a little chance of being on OKC's roster is Hartenstein, but I think that is also unlikely. Only "splashy" guys I can see OKC going after are Cam Johnson and Deni Avdija. Both have great contracts, fit seamlessly and wont impair with JDub's and Chet's development or extensions..
Oh and another guy I can see them going after is Portis if he is available. Fills a need, fits with the team, has a good contract and championship experience.
I think the Thunder are able to dream big here. You have an endless amount of picks to trade. They could be looking at anyone from Markannen to Mikal Bridges. Everyone should be a "free agent" if the price is right.
Surprised by the Giddy-Caruso trade honestly. Yet Thunder must trade for Lauri Markkenen at PF. Also at backup Center they need Bassey/Paul Reed/Drummond etc. Getting Sasha V from Kings, Osman from Spurs, Avija from Wizards are all important trades to do this offseason
Chet is gonna bulk up and turn into a better rebounder over the years. Id rather seem them get a good 4 that can rebound then move Jalen to the 3, Dort to the 2, SGA the 1 and Caruso the 6th man. Jalen only avg 4 rebounds per game last year.
OKC doesn't need Caruso to start, he can come off the bench with Cason Wallace starting. Cason/SGA is a real legit guard duo in the league. You just want Alex there for 20 minutes where you run over the other team in the second half
@@tommarshall139 dieng won mvp of g league that should give him asoke kind of confidence boost. He 6”10 I wouldn’t give up on him just yet like they gave up on poku
I don't think there's ever been a team so well positioned for success in NBA history. We've never seen this combination of youth, talent, cap space, and assets. But OKC has to make sure not to wait too long. People act like their title window is infinite, but that's not the case. Their team will quickly become very expensive. And picks often get less valuable after you use them to draft a player. Look at Memphis. Granted, they weren't as well positioned as OKC. But they've lost Kyle Anderson, DeAnthony Melton, Tyus Jones, Grayson Allen, Steven Adams, Dillion Brooks, and Xavier Tillman over the last few years and replaced them with Marcus Smart, Luke Kennard, and Derrick Rose. They've also burned through some of their picks. And it's not like losing all those good players gained them cap space. They're at $175 million next year already. They were the promising young team just a few years ago, and maybe they still can be. But it's going to get a lot harder. Especially with the new CBA rules, teams need to be thinking about this stuff and acting aggressively early. Windows are shorter than they ever have been.
Sam Presti will make sure the team finds a way lol. That being said, all their future first round picks are probably enough to feed 4 expansion teams 😂
Big no on Klay. Soft no on OG. The team is strong on the perimeter/wing. They need serious help in the post. They’d be smart to slightly overpay for a free agent big, overpaying to keep the contract at 3 years. Hartenstein, Claxton, Valenciunis (sp?) would good options. Draft the best player available. If another big that can develop in the next 2 years - even better.
The west is already tough asf to get through and only going to get harder in the future. Okc is nice but I just cant see them tearing through the west every year like the warriors were doing to be a dynasty
It’s hilarious when non Thunder fans speak on what moves they should make. It’s so obvious who has been keeping up with what the Thunder has been saying since the rebuild started and who is just speaking like it’s 2K and takes are shallow lol
Facts every year I keep telling people what okc going to do and they keep getting mad thinking I making it up especially in the draft when every year they mock okc traditional big and I keep being right when they don’t do it
Exactly, it's hilarious to me when people talk about bringing in a "real starting 5" when this is the worst Chet season we're going to see and he's probably already a top 25 player in the league
@@superchefj he be a backup to chet any big okc gets will be a backup.Okc wants chet at the 5 and so does chet, okc are at their best when Chet at the 5 it a reason okc haven’t gone after big in the past when they easily could because they want to continue their style and they’re not changing that especially for harenstien of all players
I think OKC needs to get Hartenstien for like 21 and then extend alex caruso 3 years at like 30M, and this season just give him the rest of our cap. Just like we did with collison.
Let me preface this by no means do I consider myself a Thunder fan, but I really like the way they have constructed the roster. With the draft tomorrow night, I wonder what draft capital or player picks it would take to move up and take Donovan Clingan.
Raptor fan here Og and Gv yep very good pairing and they are former raptors who know and like each other and playing styles Very good suggestion most folks like you in the USA dismiss the Raptors and Their player development. This one makes sense
Dude keeps bringing up Klay… bruh their priority has to be strengthening the front court… they need an interchangeable 4/5 guy that can either start alongside Holmgren or come off the bench so that they always have size around rim. Caruso is not starting for this team, they picked him up to back up the Dort so he stays out of foul trouble like in that Dallas series. Val is a good option if he can keep up with the pace, and his physicality will aid in Holmgrens development during practices. Val can stretch the floor by the way, many teams underestimate his range. Someone down below mentioned Jonathan Issac which could definitely work, he’s still young and versatile. Bottom line is I think OKC is maybe 1-2 guys away from being a serious contender, I just don’t think either one of those two players is Klay Thompson.
I'm not getting my hopes up until after draft night. We had cap space last year and Presti took on Bertans 20 million contract to move up and get Cason Wallace. I wouldn't be shocked if he pulls that move again to try and get J Dubs brother or maybe even someone higher. We have been swapping good picks with teams for potentially lesser value ones years down the road that's how many we have. We were supposed to have 4 first rounders in this draft but now we have 1. We've officially become a team with too many picks who has to pay to get rid of them. So we should just flip some now and take on a bad contract and get as high up the draft as possible.
You don’t know what you’re talking about okc trade the worst picks for better ones the reason okc has only one pick is because the other picks was not that valuable all of them were late 20 picks outisde of the picks we have now
@@Wrestle_Kingdom Dude we did not trade those picks because we wanted to get more value. Yes this is a bad draft but regardless of if it was good or bad we'd still have to trade those picks because we simply don't have the roster space to accommodate them all. We traded a first and a second to Denver for one of their future firsts. Who knows what that could be. Next year is supposed to be a loaded draft and we have four firsts and two seconds. Miami's is lottery protected so that should come to us, Philli's is 1-6 protected which is a guarantee to come to us, Utah 1-10 could easily come in and we will get the Clippers pick swap which could end up being a lottery pick if PG leaves and Kawhi gets hurt. But we cant cash them all in it's impossible. It would be better to use one of them now with our 12th pick and take on a bad contract to get as high up in this draft as possible instead of making another Denver trade mid season because we we figure out we have six picks and maybe two roster spots available.
@@SonnyK248 the Denver pick is more valuable than the pick we gave because it not until 2029 the purpose of picks is to make sure we have flexibility to make trades when it time to move off of players Okc knew when they got all these picks they weren’t going to use to them all but that doesn’t mean just throw every pick just to get rid of them this draft is not worth trading up it better to do that in next year draft when it projected to be good this year just either trade 12 and a pick for a good player or draft someone who can play immediately
Okc should trade with the raptors for Chris bouchier and jacob poeltl. Jacob fits perfect as their centre. He’s very smart and an underrated passer. He’s super efficient and can play along side Chet, and in certain match ups Jacob comes off the bench.
If they want a cheap backup big, why not take Zach Edey at 12? I think his floor is a solid, rim-protecting big. Even if he has no jump shot he would fill that backup big role well
I feel like at this point it’s common sense they want Chet to stay at the 5 so I can’t think of a better fit then og, I’d rather have him over Paul George
Chet absolutely can and will be the Thunder's future full time 5. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, and I implore you to look in to how Presti and Mark intend to build this team.
Claxton, whilst an excellent defender, isn’t any better of a rebounder than Chet, he’s had his own issues as a rebounder. I think they’d be much better off going after a Lauri or OG that will allow them to play bigger whilst maintaining the 5 out offense. Such an exciting team for the future
Nah dalton doesn’t play defence. Okc already have enough scoring between shai , jdub and chet. Dalton is most effective as a volume shooter . He won’t get that opportunity in okc. I think a team like the Orlando magic or Miami would a be better fit for him. Okc needs to prioritise rebounding.
DaRon Holmes is the dude, and honestly, I could see them trade back in easily for him in the late teens and taking a swing at 12. Philly likely doesn't want their pick because of the Cap space it will eat before free agency. The real move will be what they do with the starting PF spot.
They should look to trade Lu Dort and offload his contract. Look to get a 3/4/5 who can score in isolation, rebound, and play defense. Ideal guys would be: OG Anunoby Lauri Markannen Isaiah Hartenstein Mikal Bridges Kentavious Caldwell Pope Jonas Valencieunas Julius Randle Maybe even KAT
Embiid owns Chet, Embiid was asked about Chet, he responded in his Joel voice Uh he is a pretty good player, he just needs extra butter on his pancakes
Not buying Klay or Jonas to okc…as for Hartenstein I think it’s going to depend on what happens in the draft. If they get Holmes or another 4/5 then they probably pass on a FA big.
Am I crazy to think that there are some aging superstars who could playmake and shoot and guard who need a championship or two before retirement/okc signing the youngsters for their second contract just to cement their legacies? Like Lebron or KD?
Ppl saying dynasty coming. They also thought same before when they had KD Russ, & Harden. But egoes got in the way. Remember, Harden wanted out bc of like $10 million, & also remember, Harden was coming off bench & sucked it up in the Finals.
You realize during that Finals the hard cap hit because of the lockout season previously? You realize Clay Bennett was the sole owner as opposed to now they have an ownership group? Also you realize they didn’t have the flexibility of assets like they did during that Harden era? It’s inevitable
This ain't directed at you, but don't you find it crazy how Klay went from being the biggest liability in GS to such a big trade topic? Did the media omit something? Was he actually bad, or have the comments chilled since Draymond and Wiggins are helping A LOT less
@@Wrestle_Kingdom Silly me for thinking that they would have had to pay to keep Harden. Or not understanding that it doesn't matter how far you go over the salary cap. We "casuals" are like that.
If Klay were to be traded to Okc we definitely getting over the hump we don’t need klay to be a super sniper just bring that finals experience and be clutch and with the addition of Caruso I’d be comfortable saying Okc makes finals this year… are two players like this enough to beat Boston?
Can someone explain what happens to Gordon Hayward this off-season? Doesn't his contract expire? Do they let him walk? Do they get to use the money on someone else?
Please no Klay. That's going to be such a waste. Hartenstein or Anunobi would both be great additions. However, I don't really feel they will be realistic additions. Just feel too good to be true. :D
I’ve been rocking with you since you were posting in that dungeon you were held in and I used to check your body language to make sure that if you needed help I could do my best. And, ever since then you were solid unless you were talking about the Knicks. Your Knicks takes are always underwhelming; I am never whelmed by your takes. You never have the Knicks point of view and I know it may seem like I’m sensitive, I am but if you are never right with the take then both things can be true.
The Caruos/Giddey trade made OKC significantly worse and it makes even less sense because they didn't need another wing player as they have Wiggins, Wallace, Hayward and Kenrich Williams. They need a big man like Lively who they drafted and trade to Dallas. Think he might have come in handy in that Dallas series???!!! Sam Presti's overall body of work is excellent but he certainly has his share of blunders with trading Harden and getting rid of Lively. This Giddey trade and losing Lively will haunt him for many years.
You don't know anything about okc just stop talking, they play 5 out offense they will never get a big man who can't shoot and giddey didn't fit with what they're doing and this definitely isn't the last move okc will make.
You do not know what you’re talking about also okc drafted lively for Dallas okc was never drafting lively the mavs agree to moved down because they wanted to move off bertans contract So either way Dallas was getting lively because they had the 10th pick okc traded up to get the guy they wanted and get bertans contract Also how tf getting rid of a guy who was a complete liability in the payoffs for one of the best perimeter defenders in the league make okc worse also you do know they can make more moves,it’s not like the off-season isn’t coming up were teams can make multiple trades or even sign multiple players
@@Wrestle_Kingdom Did you even watch the Thunder this year? Obviously not. Giddey was phenomenal the 2nd half of the season and in the series against New Orleans. He got yanked in the Dallas series but that turned out to be idiotic because Isaiah Joe was horrific in his place. You absolutely can't change the starting lineup at that point in the postseason and Daignault screwed up there. Just watch what Giddey does next season compared to what Caruso does. Wiggins and Hayward are both better than Caruso. He isn't even needed at all. Hell Wallace and Kenrich Williams provide as much as he will. Giddey will average almost a triple double next year.
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I beg you to stop Klay propaganda, he's not rebuilding his career
He did the same shit with Mitchell for months
Real keep that bum all the way away from my team
Breach brotha @@uncledrew4698
You have zero clue what any NBA player will be in a years time tf you think you are the knower?
After watching game 6 2016, I personally don't wanna see Klay in OKC😂
Giving a washed Klay $30M a year when Isaiah Joe offers the same skill set is insane
Ik right
I was beyond angry when the Sixers got rid of him!
Washed is a strong word… you’re comparing him to his prime.
OKC is still young and could need the Championship experience from a player like him if they reach WCF and NBA finals. And he does not need to be signed to a long term contract. It can be an expiring one around the time their younger core will need new contracts.
Klay is a very good addition short term especially offensively and for the spacing. He shot 38.7% from 3 on 9.0 attempts. If that’s washed then that only speaks on hiw good he actually is.
They don't need to add anyone, they are already talented enough, they can stay flexible and use money to extend contracts for existing players.
@@Zemlja_je_ravnathey don't NEED to go spend their cap no, but it's alot more efficient teambuilding to use that money while your guys are on rookie deals, then extend them later on with their bird rights. That gives them a very real chance to contend now, whoever they use that money on may walk after their contract but they'll have young guys ready to step in
I think Jonathan Isaac would be a nice fit at the 4 in OKC.
It’s not 2K but yeah if he can stay healthy
I want JJJ but that ain't gonna happen
@@Triads297 that’s part of why I’m thinking Isaac. Idk what his trade value is, but I doubt it’s anything crazy. Feels like it could reasonably happen.
Sadly, he can't stay healthy.
Great defender but bad on offense
Love your passion and speaking on OKC! More videos on OKC please luv it
Dynasty coming real soon in okc
Wrong. Victor wembanya and nikola jokic are in their way
Grizzlies haven't had their off season yet. Everyone forgets that they are a top 3 seed when healthy. Ja and JJJ about to hit their prime at the same time.
@@sting114nah OKC is up
Can we wait just 2 damn minutes without calling every successful young team a future dynasty?
@@sting114wembey isn’t in the way of anyone, it’s going to take a couple years until he can atleast make the play in
Mavs shooting bad in the finals was due to how the Celtics played them not just variation
For sure!
They shot bad in the Wolves series as well
No they just suck at spacing the floor lol
The only shot good in one round against us
Wide open 3s anywhere outside the corner?
OKC fans are up right now! 🔥
OKC got Nikola Topic, the best young play maker in the world. OKC and Nuggets will dominate next five years. Young and talented.
OKC turning giddey into Caruso and getting anunoby in 1 offseason would be nasty work. Sam presti and brad stevens are wired differently.
Nah. The only modern GM on Presti's level is Ainge.
They're both in a league of their own. Brad has a long way to go lol
Yes the Boston Celtics core was Ainges masterpiece. All the assets Brad used were accumulated by Ainge.
Chet is OUR STARTING 5
I am conflicted with this. While I think the reason this offense was so good last season was because of the spacing Chet provided without giving up any defense, rebounding and size was a real big issue during the playoffs. You have two options to fix that. Hope that Chet makes the next step and get rid of that weakness or find a person who can fix that. I don't think the thunder sound find a traditional big to do that because it'll hamper their offense so again I'm am really conflicted with that
@@ICantBuuItAnymoreokc got better after the deadline being a middle rebounding team the problem isn’t chet at the 5 the problem is being undersize at the forward position jdub needs to be a 3 and okc need big forward at the 4 spot and another backup big
@@Wrestle_Kingdom exactly
Lively destroyed him in that game 6
@@conanreddy8884that’s one game tho throughout the whole series chet held his own
Bobby portis is on the trade market now and okc should try to get him, the bucks need a Beasley replacement and okc has plenty of those type of players.
Bobby Portis for Isiah Joe and a first round pick. Seems fair.
Portis is a beast
@@curtisrobertson3342not sure okc would do that deal. Joe is a legit sniper. Okc has cap space to play with they don’t NEED to get rid of guys in trades
Portis is not on the trade block quit listening to rumors.
Isaiah Joe too important I’d rather Klay tbh. Okc still needs size to help Chet at the end of the day and trading Memphis for Steven Adams easily brings an additional 8-13 defensive rebounds a game, then moving in transition with with sga Jaylen and klay would be crazy
Dude a defensive lineup of OG, Dort, Chet, Shai, and JDub with Caruso off the bench would be crazy. But if he wants too much money, then getting Val plus Klay would fantastic. Crazy rotation of Shai, Chet, JDub, Dort, and Klay with Val, Caruso, Isaiah Joe, Cason Wallace and Aaron Wiggins plus somebody from the draft is fucking insane. And the crazier part, is that that lineup is barely even touching all of their draft picks. At this point, Presti is my goat.
i would trade Dort
they need another big man. Get Dort out of there he’s the odd man out. That is a title team right there
dort coming off the bench
@@ry_an.we have 4 open roster spots and a million picks, we don’t need to get rid of Dort. He’s a legitimate 3 point shooter now while locking up star players. Caruso I think would make the second unit better than Dort, and Caruso is fine doing that. Besides that it’s the closing minutes that matter the most and I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lineup with Caruso and Dort out there depending on what’s needed.
@@KBilliez he is a solid rotational piece but if you can get a Lauri Markannen type of guy I’d be willing to ship Dort.
Y’all have to understand Chet is the 5 any 5 okc gets will be a backup okc going to get big forward to help Chet and move jdub to the 3 and get a backup big
Also do not believe in these rumors okc been link to players all the time and is never true especially in the draft okc typically don’t let information get out
I seriously don't understand how people can look at the season they just had with Chetter Bob anchoring the defense and boldly continue to preach that they need a "real center" 🤦🏿♂️😂
Thank you for the most sensible comment here bro 😂
Okc defense is going to be insane this year, if Caruso and sga are good steals guys on defense it’s gonna be a lot of fast break points and trail 3s
More videos on OKC ! This team is being constructed incredible ! We are going to get another big man to support Chet Holm it’s gonna be amazing!
OG is staying a knick with the Bridges trade.
You know, if OKC gets a big man, they're gonna come off the bench.They're not starting a big man .Chet is the starting five
Put him at 4? That simple
@@BigRedWave2024 then dort is gonna have to come off the bench which is just a bad move
@@Z2Turntup why is it a bad move though?
@@BigRedWave2024 This isn't 2k. Chet is a full time starting 5. End of discussion
@@BigRedWave2024 because he held luka to 25 ppg in the dallas series, he is a top 10 defensive guard in the league and sacrificing that for some rebounding would be a mistake
I definitely disagree with your take that Chet can’t be the 5. I dont think he should be playing the 4 where much more mobile players are going to torch him on the perimeter. He should be protecting the rim, and also having 2 bigs would really mess up their play style that they’ve built on (drive and kick, 5 out, forcing turnovers and getting out in transition)
That style doesn't work in the playoffs when teams slow way down, that's why they got eliminated
@@brianbadonde9251 just say you didn’t watch okc they lost due to poor shooting not because the style didn’t work also the Celtics literally run the same playstyle with minor changes
@@brianbadonde9251okc didn’t lose to Dallas because of defense lol u didn’t watch the series
As a Thunder fan I’m hyped for our future!
As another thunder fan, I am excited for what Chet and J-dub will become. Both are very young with the chance to become all stars next year.
They need a power forward…
I been a thunder fan since 2009 and this is the most excited I been for this team since 2016. If we can develop Chet and J-dub to be at least all stars then SGA, Chet, and J-dub could be a better trio or as good of a trio as KD, Westbrook, and Harden.
Gordon Hayward must have a really good agent because he's been finessing the league with max contracts for years.
Made like $300,000,000 to rehab.
Gordon was good in charlotte
Does anybody remember why he chose Boston over Miami?
I remember in 2017 free agency, all the signs were pointing him to sign for the Heat. Then all of a sudden, Boston came along
@@ColdHoops home turf, have you seen the boston crowd? He was looking for the market money; all the boston boys buying hayward jerseys lol. You need to have some spice for a white boy to pop off in miami.
@@georgerodriguez8209 Lool I hear you
Chet was a positive on the floor as a 5
not in the maverick series
@@beef2503this isn’t true the only game he wasn’t a positive was game 5
@@Wrestle_Kingdom ok
@@Wrestle_Kingdom barely plus positive in g3, g4 0 plus minus, game 5 important game was -10, game 6 was better but regardless
@@beef2503 using box score plus minus is a terrible way to analyze a player especially if you didn’t watch chet was extremely impactful defensively it was offensively that was the problem for him he couldn’t hit a 3
The mavs was struggling to score in the for majority of that series due to chet just offensively chet couldn’t hit a shot
Also shai was a complete negative against the mavs if we use box score plus minus even though he was the best player in that series or 2nd best
Brook Lopez would be a perfect fit for the next season run. Like Al for Boston.
I hope we get a legit big man. 7 feet can rebound get easy baskets , etc. also more bench depth
You have a legit big man. Watch the games.
Giving 30-35 million a year to a washed Thompson is stupid. He got benched on a team that barely made the play in and missed the playoffs, how would he start for a contender ?And I can tell you with a million % certainty that they are not gonna go after Valanciunas. O.G. is going to demand too much money and too many years, making extending both JDub and Chet impossible so that is also a pipe dream. The only guy you mentioned that has even a little chance of being on OKC's roster is Hartenstein, but I think that is also unlikely.
Only "splashy" guys I can see OKC going after are Cam Johnson and Deni Avdija. Both have great contracts, fit seamlessly and wont impair with JDub's and Chet's development or extensions..
Oh and another guy I can see them going after is Portis if he is available. Fills a need, fits with the team, has a good contract and championship experience.
We got NiKOLA!!!!!
I think the Thunder are able to dream big here. You have an endless amount of picks to trade. They could be looking at anyone from Markannen to Mikal Bridges. Everyone should be a "free agent" if the price is right.
As a thunder fan…I do not want klay
Surprised by the Giddy-Caruso trade honestly. Yet Thunder must trade for Lauri Markkenen at PF. Also at backup Center they need Bassey/Paul Reed/Drummond etc.
Getting Sasha V from Kings, Osman from Spurs, Avija from Wizards are all important trades to do this offseason
OKC need pursue Lauri Markannen?
I think they making a few trades. One draft pick to get ball handling and traditional big. (Rebounding shot blocking pick and roll
As a Thunder fan we don’t want Klay on our team
Chet is gonna bulk up and turn into a better rebounder over the years. Id rather seem them get a good 4 that can rebound then move Jalen to the 3, Dort to the 2, SGA the 1 and Caruso the 6th man. Jalen only avg 4 rebounds per game last year.
Just imagine lauri markkanen in OKC
Klay is so unpredictable that’s why I wouldn’t want him in OKC
OKC doesn't need Caruso to start, he can come off the bench with Cason Wallace starting. Cason/SGA is a real legit guard duo in the league. You just want Alex there for 20 minutes where you run over the other team in the second half
He better not start lol!!!
They need to go after Johnathan Issac or Nic Claxton. Put another servicable defensive big alongside Chet.
Glad you mentioned OG he’d be perfect there, as well as Jakob Poeltl
I love Klay but I think Hartenstain is worth more than Klay at the moment, especially for thunders who desperately need rebounds
It doesn't matter. Wemby is coming
Imma go for a hot take and say the Thunder Ousmane Dieng will have a breakout season and be the starting 4. :fingers crossed:
That would be insane
he has the same chance as perry jones III has, they are both so passive that they will never make it
@@tommarshall139 dieng won mvp of g league that should give him asoke kind of confidence boost. He 6”10 I wouldn’t give up on him just yet like they gave up on poku
I really don’t want Klay’s washed ass in OKC
lauri markkanen is on trade maerket now and okc should try get him for draft pick
he would be a nice fit at the 4 in okc
@@tdrdarshitha until the cost becomes untenable....would be a fun two years though
@@tdrdarshithautah already said they want him as their franchise player it would be hard to get him and not lose to much
I don't think there's ever been a team so well positioned for success in NBA history. We've never seen this combination of youth, talent, cap space, and assets. But OKC has to make sure not to wait too long. People act like their title window is infinite, but that's not the case. Their team will quickly become very expensive. And picks often get less valuable after you use them to draft a player.
Look at Memphis. Granted, they weren't as well positioned as OKC. But they've lost Kyle Anderson, DeAnthony Melton, Tyus Jones, Grayson Allen, Steven Adams, Dillion Brooks, and Xavier Tillman over the last few years and replaced them with Marcus Smart, Luke Kennard, and Derrick Rose. They've also burned through some of their picks. And it's not like losing all those good players gained them cap space. They're at $175 million next year already. They were the promising young team just a few years ago, and maybe they still can be. But it's going to get a lot harder.
Especially with the new CBA rules, teams need to be thinking about this stuff and acting aggressively early. Windows are shorter than they ever have been.
Hard to critique Memphis when they've just had an injury riddled season.
But, I understand your point
It’s unreal how many draft picks the thunder have. It’s impossible to use even half of them.
Sam Presti will make sure the team finds a way lol.
That being said, all their future first round picks are probably enough to feed 4 expansion teams 😂
Big no on Klay. Soft no on OG. The team is strong on the perimeter/wing. They need serious help in the post.
They’d be smart to slightly overpay for a free agent big, overpaying to keep the contract at 3 years.
Hartenstein, Claxton, Valenciunis (sp?) would good options.
Draft the best player available. If another big that can develop in the next 2 years - even better.
Every fan base of a Texas team is so insecure towards OKC it’s funny lol
Why would Houston? OKC handed them their 2010s 'future' in Harden lol
Keep Klay away please hes been a bitter old man this past year I don't want that shit in the thunder locker room😭
Lauri Marknen would be perfect for this team.
The west is already tough asf to get through and only going to get harder in the future. Okc is nice but I just cant see them tearing through the west every year like the warriors were doing to be a dynasty
It’s hilarious when non Thunder fans speak on what moves they should make. It’s so obvious who has been keeping up with what the Thunder has been saying since the rebuild started and who is just speaking like it’s 2K and takes are shallow lol
Facts every year I keep telling people what okc going to do and they keep getting mad thinking I making it up especially in the draft when every year they mock okc traditional big and I keep being right when they don’t do it
@@Wrestle_Kingdom well andre drummond might be available, lol
@Wrestle_Kingdom then what are okc going to do in the draft? You think Holmes like I do?
@@georgevarden1291 okc are going
To most likely draft a wing but if okc does draft a big it will be Holmes or flipowski
Exactly, it's hilarious to me when people talk about bringing in a "real starting 5" when this is the worst Chet season we're going to see and he's probably already a top 25 player in the league
OKC set right now if everyone take leap
Hartenstein signing with okc is a sleeper move. perfect fit
He's not leaving NY to be a back up
@@Ryan_22_ who said he finna be a back up???
@@superchefjhe going to be a backup if okc gets him
@@Wrestle_Kingdom to who????
@@superchefj he be a backup to chet any big okc gets will be a backup.Okc wants chet at the 5 and so does chet, okc are at their best when Chet at the 5 it a reason okc haven’t gone after big in the past when they easily could because they want to continue their style and they’re not changing that especially for harenstien of all players
Klay aint as cold as he used to be, so i wouldnt like to see OKC pick him up. Og prolly resigning with the knicks
I think OKC needs to get Hartenstien for like 21 and then extend alex caruso 3 years at like 30M, and this season just give him the rest of our cap.
Just like we did with collison.
Let me preface this by no means do I consider myself a Thunder fan, but I really like the way they have constructed the roster. With the draft tomorrow night, I wonder what draft capital or player picks it would take to move up and take Donovan Clingan.
Raptor fan here Og and Gv yep very good pairing and they are former raptors who know and like each other and playing styles
Very good suggestion most folks like you in the USA dismiss the Raptors and
Their player development. This one makes sense
Dude keeps bringing up Klay… bruh their priority has to be strengthening the front court… they need an interchangeable 4/5 guy that can either start alongside Holmgren or come off the bench so that they always have size around rim. Caruso is not starting for this team, they picked him up to back up the Dort so he stays out of foul trouble like in that Dallas series. Val is a good option if he can keep up with the pace, and his physicality will aid in Holmgrens development during practices. Val can stretch the floor by the way, many teams underestimate his range. Someone down below mentioned Jonathan Issac which could definitely work, he’s still young and versatile. Bottom line is I think OKC is maybe 1-2 guys away from being a serious contender, I just don’t think either one of those two players is Klay Thompson.
I'm not getting my hopes up until after draft night. We had cap space last year and Presti took on Bertans 20 million contract to move up and get Cason Wallace. I wouldn't be shocked if he pulls that move again to try and get J Dubs brother or maybe even someone higher. We have been swapping good picks with teams for potentially lesser value ones years down the road that's how many we have. We were supposed to have 4 first rounders in this draft but now we have 1. We've officially become a team with too many picks who has to pay to get rid of them. So we should just flip some now and take on a bad contract and get as high up the draft as possible.
You don’t know what you’re talking about okc trade the worst picks for better ones the reason okc has only one pick is because the other picks was not that valuable all of them were late 20 picks outisde of the picks we have now
@@Wrestle_Kingdom Dude we did not trade those picks because we wanted to get more value. Yes this is a bad draft but regardless of if it was good or bad we'd still have to trade those picks because we simply don't have the roster space to accommodate them all. We traded a first and a second to Denver for one of their future firsts. Who knows what that could be. Next year is supposed to be a loaded draft and we have four firsts and two seconds. Miami's is lottery protected so that should come to us, Philli's is 1-6 protected which is a guarantee to come to us, Utah 1-10 could easily come in and we will get the Clippers pick swap which could end up being a lottery pick if PG leaves and Kawhi gets hurt. But we cant cash them all in it's impossible. It would be better to use one of them now with our 12th pick and take on a bad contract to get as high up in this draft as possible instead of making another Denver trade mid season because we we figure out we have six picks and maybe two roster spots available.
@@SonnyK248 the Denver pick is more valuable than the pick we gave because it not until 2029 the purpose of picks is to make sure we have flexibility to make trades when it time to move off of players
Okc knew when they got all these picks they weren’t going to use to them all but that doesn’t mean just throw every pick just to get rid of them this draft is not worth trading up it better to do that in next year draft when it projected to be good this year just either trade 12 and a pick for a good player or draft someone who can play immediately
Klay’s defense is cooked after all those injuries, don’t love it
If Ron Holland falls to us at pick 12 then that would be insane.
Okc should trade with the raptors for Chris bouchier and jacob poeltl. Jacob fits perfect as their centre. He’s very smart and an underrated passer. He’s super efficient and can play along side Chet, and in certain match ups Jacob comes off the bench.
OKC: Kessler, Clarkson
Jazz: Dang, Williams, pick 12
No disrespect or insult but how are okc fans thinking of the Giddey trade?
it’s sad to see him go but it needed to happen if we wanted even a chance at a title
If they want a cheap backup big, why not take Zach Edey at 12? I think his floor is a solid, rim-protecting big. Even if he has no jump shot he would fill that backup big role well
Okc not drafting Edey
Yesssss I’ve been saying og since the season ended I don’t care give him all 35 mill we got I don’t care lol
Hell yea your speaking facts
Hell yea your speaking facts
I feel like at this point it’s common sense they want Chet to stay at the 5 so I can’t think of a better fit then og, I’d rather have him over Paul George
Chet absolutely can and will be the Thunder's future full time 5. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, and I implore you to look in to how Presti and Mark intend to build this team.
Quite honestly, I think what OKC should do is use those draft capital, go after Lauri & Sexton from the JAZZ.
Presti is never giving Danny Ainge more picks lmao
nic claxton solves their rebounding issues and lauri markkanen can space the floor... but those are expensive options
Claxton's seeking 20 million a year. Are OKC wiliing to spend ALL that cap space on him? 🤔
Claxton, whilst an excellent defender, isn’t any better of a rebounder than Chet, he’s had his own issues as a rebounder. I think they’d be much better off going after a Lauri or OG that will allow them to play bigger whilst maintaining the 5 out offense. Such an exciting team for the future
@@samn90834 yk i agree with you, i like the fit with OG anunoby. AND HE FITS THEIR TIMELINE!! that's insane
If they get Tyler smith or filipkowsi at pick 12 then the league should be worried.
What about Dalton?
Nah dalton doesn’t play defence. Okc already have enough scoring between shai , jdub and chet. Dalton is most effective as a volume shooter . He won’t get that opportunity in okc. I think a team like the Orlando magic or Miami would a be better fit for him. Okc needs to prioritise rebounding.
DaRon Holmes is the dude, and honestly, I could see them trade back in easily for him in the late teens and taking a swing at 12. Philly likely doesn't want their pick because of the Cap space it will eat before free agency. The real move will be what they do with the starting PF spot.
If Klay was willing to sign for 2 or 3 years he'd already be re-signed with the warriors
They should look to trade Lu Dort and offload his contract.
Look to get a 3/4/5 who can score in isolation, rebound, and play defense.
Ideal guys would be:
OG Anunoby
Lauri Markannen
Isaiah Hartenstein
Mikal Bridges
Kentavious Caldwell Pope
Jonas Valencieunas
Julius Randle
Maybe even KAT
Embiid owns Chet, Embiid was asked about Chet, he responded in his Joel voice Uh he is a pretty good player, he just needs extra butter on his pancakes
If AC can still healthy good lawd their team gonna be nasty
chet is not playing the 4.
A better trade would have been Causo & Drummond for Giddey and a pick.
How come no one else besides me talk about Wendell Carter Jr? Can shoot tall and mobile
after this season idk the magic would trade him but Moritz wagner would be a good up
Not buying Klay or Jonas to okc…as for Hartenstein I think it’s going to depend on what happens in the draft. If they get Holmes or another 4/5 then they probably pass on a FA big.
markennen,OG or jerami grant and a solid back up defensive center probably goga he is cheap and started well last year for carter during his injury
Am I crazy to think that there are some aging superstars who could playmake and shoot and guard who need a championship or two before retirement/okc signing the youngsters for their second contract just to cement their legacies? Like Lebron or KD?
Lebron just hired his guy as the coach lol he's not going anywhere 😂
@@brianbadonde9251 lebron also told pat riley to draft shabazz Napier.
Robert Williams the 3rd available?? Bismack Biyombe? Even Tristen Thompson...they need a big in the paint.....
They need to target Jacob pothel. solid contract, dont demand minutes, can defend the bigs. Chet is more a PF that can end games at centet
poeltl can’t shoot and is way to slow for okc’s offensive scheme
"Chet isn't a long term 5" has to die at some point. The 82+ games anchoring a top 5 offense and defense in his rookie year wasn't enough. 🤷🏼♂️
Ppl saying dynasty coming. They also thought same before when they had KD Russ, & Harden. But egoes got in the way. Remember, Harden wanted out bc of like $10 million, & also remember, Harden was coming off bench & sucked it up in the Finals.
You realize during that Finals the hard cap hit because of the lockout season previously? You realize Clay Bennett was the sole owner as opposed to now they have an ownership group? Also you realize they didn’t have the flexibility of assets like they did during that Harden era? It’s inevitable
@@808bboarderplus it was a learning experience for presti and our owners. They’ll pay them now. They know better
Jonas Valanciunas next to Chet would be perfect
val is to slow and won’t fit okc offensive scheme
Tell you don’t watch okc
just can't see the knicks letting og go to another team and they would be better getting a lanky rebounder than just a banger
Og not going to Okc he wanted a big offensive role
This ain't directed at you, but don't you find it crazy how Klay went from being the biggest liability in GS to such a big trade topic? Did the media omit something? Was he actually bad, or have the comments chilled since Draymond and Wiggins are helping A LOT less
Because he’s Klay. Only reason he’s being talked about
Give klay 5 to 7 wide open 3s and a cpl drives a game for like max 10 to 14 shots a game dudes on this team is a lock for 18 ppg
We already know what Oklahoma does in this situation. They avoid going into luxury cap mode. Remember that James Harden guy?
Y’all casual going to run with this dumb narrative even though okc has been in the luxury tax before with pg and Russ
@@Wrestle_Kingdom Silly me for thinking that they would have had to pay to keep Harden. Or not understanding that it doesn't matter how far you go over the salary cap. We "casuals" are like that.
If Klay were to be traded to Okc we definitely getting over the hump we don’t need klay to be a super sniper just bring that finals experience and be clutch and with the addition of Caruso I’d be comfortable saying Okc makes finals this year… are two players like this enough to beat Boston?
Grab the young Canadian Zach and work with him
Can someone explain what happens to Gordon Hayward this off-season? Doesn't his contract expire? Do they let him walk? Do they get to use the money on someone else?
Please no Klay. That's going to be such a waste.
Hartenstein or Anunobi would both be great additions. However, I don't really feel they will be realistic additions. Just feel too good to be true. :D
I’ve been rocking with you since you were posting in that dungeon you were held in and I used to check your body language to make sure that if you needed help I could do my best. And, ever since then you were solid unless you were talking about the Knicks. Your Knicks takes are always underwhelming; I am never whelmed by your takes. You never have the Knicks point of view and I know it may seem like I’m sensitive, I am but if you are never right with the take then both things can be true.
Only persons OKC Needs is Aaron Gordon or Karl Anthony towns ,they both can hold nokic
They should make an offer to take Poeltl and Bruce Brown
They're both earning over 19 million next season. Good luck 🥴
The Caruos/Giddey trade made OKC significantly worse and it makes even less sense because they didn't need another wing player as they have Wiggins, Wallace, Hayward and Kenrich Williams. They need a big man like Lively who they drafted and trade to Dallas. Think he might have come in handy in that Dallas series???!!! Sam Presti's overall body of work is excellent but he certainly has his share of blunders with trading Harden and getting rid of Lively. This Giddey trade and losing Lively will haunt him for many years.
You don't know anything about okc just stop talking, they play 5 out offense they will never get a big man who can't shoot and giddey didn't fit with what they're doing and this definitely isn't the last move okc will make.
You do not know what you’re talking about also okc drafted lively for Dallas okc was never drafting lively the mavs agree to moved down because they wanted to move off bertans contract
So either way Dallas was getting lively because they had the 10th pick okc traded up to get the guy they wanted and get bertans contract
Also how tf getting rid of a guy who was a complete liability in the payoffs for one of the best perimeter defenders in the league make okc worse also you do know they can make more moves,it’s not like the off-season isn’t coming up were teams can make multiple trades or even sign multiple players
@@Wrestle_Kingdom Did you even watch the Thunder this year? Obviously not. Giddey was phenomenal the 2nd half of the season and in the series against New Orleans. He got yanked in the Dallas series but that turned out to be idiotic because Isaiah Joe was horrific in his place. You absolutely can't change the starting lineup at that point in the postseason and Daignault screwed up there. Just watch what Giddey does next season compared to what Caruso does. Wiggins and Hayward are both better than Caruso. He isn't even needed at all. Hell Wallace and Kenrich Williams provide as much as he will. Giddey will average almost a triple double next year.
@@joeldriver-sp2rg 🤦♀️
Think okc should try to pick up heartstien (spelled his name wrong but the C on the knicks)