If you don't like same-sex marriage, don't get one. If your religion says homosexuality is a sin, don't commit homosexual acts. If you don't like Red Ford Mustangs, don't buy one. It is simple, really. Let's see if you have enough common sense to comprehend this basic Kindergarten knowledge.
@Benedict Agpalo A 'sort of understanding' is not an understanding. I had never even heard of sex when I was eleven. The first and only sex education I got was when I was 14. But the most important thing is not if they know what sex is, but if they understand the repercussions of it and if they understand how to tell an unhealthy relationship from a healthy one. And even with all this knowledge their brains are still developing. In particular- the part of the brain that helps you evaluate things before making decisions is not fully developed until 21-25. Does that not ring alarm bells to you? If it doesn't then you need to look over the meaning of consent again.
@@StephenKershaw1 Marriage is licensed by the state to protect the underaged, those who could be taken advantage of (like the handicapped), and the elderly. Once the marriage is officiated, it receives all the benefits covered by law. A couple can get married without a licence. But, that doesn't mean they will receive all the benefits the law can provide to married people. As such, technically, all the law does is provide legal benefits to married people.
Marriage is a civil right for the reasons laid out in our Constitution, where no person is to be deprived of the right to life, liberty, or property, without due process of law. Think about the relationship people share with each other, the investment and commitment they make to be life partners. That is a human right and nobody should be denied it when it doesn't harm anyone. Encouraging stable households is great for society and gay couples deserve stability of marriage just as anyone else.
It is based on the Eye of Horus, Illuminati symbol. You might not believe me, but many logos have Satanic symbolism. Google wheel symbol is 666, Monster drink is 666 in Hebrew, Google Mail has Masonic, Satanic symbolism etc.
If Jehovah (God) designed romantic and sexual activity only for married opposite-sex couples, then why did God give us romantic and sexual desires (during adolescence) before marriage in the first place? Surely, he could have designed the body to develop these desires only when a person is married instead of giving it to us during our adolescence which sets people up to sin or just makes obeying his laws based on sexuality harder than it should be. If homosexuality is 'unnatural' as the Bible describes it, why does homosexuality seem to be irreversible? Surely, if God wants us to believe that homosexuality is 'unnatural' and unjustifiable, he could make homosexuality a choice, make it reversible and make it dangerous (not make homosexuality good for homosexuals).
@Dance4JC People who are gay know that they are before having their first sexual encounter. Straight adolescent boys fantasize about girls while gay adolescent boys fantasize about other boys, same for lesbians but with the genders reversed. If you're straight and you think you're some kind of expert then think again because you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Actually I know the answer to all of this I’ve been studying this exact thing for 7 years and traveled half way around the world to figure it out the answer that seem to be 100% factual was that god doesn’t exists👊🏽
I know a man who was rejected by his family. They had nothing to do with him. His brothers and sisters claimed to be religious and disagreed with his orientation. He went to college and got a job as a professor of education in a local college in his home city. He was so hurt he said that he was going to leave all he had to Goodwill. He died suddenly and alone with no will. But after he died, the family that hurt and rejected him all came forward wanting a piece of his nice home, belongings, and vehicles. With no shame they spoke up to claim this man's belongings greedily. He was nothing to them but they all were sure to cash in on him. He to this day has no gravestone. Buried next to his mom. This is one reason why gay marriage is important. It's not all about a marriage license to hang on the wall and a fancy wedding. But to make sure also upon your death that partner is given all they had worked hard for. To be able to get insurance coverage for your partner from your workplace if they have no insurance coverage. The right wing conservatives I guarantee are much more concerned about those possible cost than any moral issue. I wish certain groups would wake up to just how crooked and silver tongued these politicians are. As long as you give Alot of money to the politicians that say they are religious and support your causes, they will play the part. What does Jesus say about the Rich Man?
Even if it is against religion, we allow people with different beliefs to do what they want as long as it is in legal standards. Gay marriage isn't infringing on legal laws, so as long as it doesn't infringe and force other people to believe what they believe, then it is allowed.
well homosexuality used to be illegal. what makes it moraly ok now? what changes opinion? what definition can you use to justify making it legal to begin with?
@@gregyork7527 woman couldnt vote in the past either, the past isnt a good framework for rules now. also how tf are you playing the victim while actively trying to take someones rights away
@@gregyork7527 how about you prove to me first how its immoral, since you are the accusor you should explain your standpoint first. explain how its immoral
@@vaporized2065 I didnt make the rules for what is moral. I'm not the creator that said for a man to lay with a man is a sin. For a woman to lay with a woman is a sin. You have to ask our father why it's immoral. I suspect because he created male and female and he said for them to populate the earth. He is a creator so I suspect he wanted us to create. Man and a man can't. Neither can a woman and a woman. It's not love it's lust. For you to lay with the same sex realizing that they can burn for it. Then you don't love them it's lust
same sex marriage should be legal and not even looked at! it's a living choice. everyone should have the right to marry whomever they decide to. why does everyone feel that they need to control how all of us live?
so if a mother and child wanted to marry it should be ok? or how about a dad and his very young daughter, or a man and his female dog. where does is stop. I mean couldn't we use the same arguments to change public opinion for any perverse and sickening sexual act. because people used to think about homosexuality just like these other sickening perverse sexual acts.
@@pandemicphilly60 well they are trying to legalize pedophilia. They are using the same arguments the gay rights have used. If a child isn't injured and likes it then they should be happy in their own body. Now that is perverse just as much as homosexuality. Nothing can make it moral.
@@advstation2003 why not . Why should you be so closed minded about it. Don't everyone have the right to be happy as long as it's not hurting anyone right. Why wouldn't you take up for their rights to be happy in their own body.
MY religion? sorry sir, you are mistaken. I was using THEIR religion to show them how wrong they are. A quick google of the verses I listed will reveal that I am in SUPPORT of any person's right to marry.
“Shouldn’t all Americans have the right to marry whomever they love?” Ok so a brother can marry a brother? A son can marry a father? Is there no moral restraint anymore or is it just a free for all? Anyone can marry anyone with no moral compass?
If you are to marry a family member that is incest and if you guys have Kids the children will most likely have birth defects so yes that should be illegal but a same sex marriage isn’t hurting anyone
mackahlan Shamp if that’s the reason then why isn’t it illegal for older couple to have babies, since older couples are far more likely to conceive babies with birth defects. And what if it’s same gendered incest? A brother and a brother? They’re not harming anyone, why shouldn’t they be together?
Graci Grapefruit Lool please come to an argument with facts. It is scientifically proven that women over 34 that give birth, the child is more likely to have birth defects. Go look it up before you embarrass yourself again. And it’s just so hilarious how the ONLY thing people like you have against incest is the birth defect argument. Or that it’s “just wrong”. Why is it wrong? Just because it’s a family member? You’re argument is that they share the same dna so they shouldn’t be together? Well homosexuals share the same gender which is why they shouldn’t be together. And since you wana keep bringing up the birth defect argument, since it’s the only argument you have, what if it’s two brothers? Or two family meme wes of the same gender? Why is that still wrong but two men in general having sex is fine? Why is the line drawn at being brothers but not at gender?
Clarence Escuella so you both committed a straw man fallacy AND a slippery slope fallacy all in the same thought process. Good job! You’re twice as dumb and illogical as I thought.
The only confused about it is you. Kids of gay families are aware that both parents are the same sex just like kids of single parent households are aware that one of the other parents isn't there. You've been saying the same disingenuous crap for years now, with no evidence to back it up...get a new schtick.
You are playing with words aren't you. You were also played with words I believe, if not I don't know then. What's the connection of procreation. There are heterosexuals who are not able to procreate. Moral and ethics? Look at homophobia, that is an example of erosion of morality and ethics.
Dude. God created marriage to be between a man and a woman. That's not homophobia. That's straight facts. The truth of the matter is, homosexual marriage, by definition, is non-existent. What about heterophobia? By your definition, you were heterophobic just now because you undermined their ability to procreate and pointed out that some don't, just to support your own flawed ethics. Ethics apart from God does not exist!
@@DJ.XreX-777 That is a argument based in religion. In America, church and state are kept separate. Therefore, religion should have no say in deciding what laws should be enacted.
@@firestarter-eo8ws Yet the religions of humanism and atheism have a great deal to say about laws that are being enacted. Humanism has a set of beliefs and practices and humanity itself is the deity. Therefore it is a religion. Atheism may claim not to believe in a God (thoh that is ridiculous since that assumes the possibility that God indeed exists), but they follow a set of beliefs otherwise, practice atheism daily, confessing in their mind that there is no God, and generally makes nature, science, or oneself to be their god. And that’s not even what separation of Church and State means. That is nowhere in the Constitution, nor is your meaning of it supported by the Framers. Thomas Jefferson wrote a letter to a church saying that the Government would not interfere with, influence or overtake the church like the English Government did in instituting Church of England. And religion is encouraged if not required for our republic to work. So Christian religion is required to fully engage in the American way of life.
I almost miss the days when we were actively having this debate. All the arguments against marriage equality were just so obviously stupid. "We'll be forced to let people marry their pets." "God doesn't like it and I have a book in which he says so." "Changing the definition of something is just bad, sorry." Good times. EDIT: To clarify I realize that lgbtq folks are much better off now than they were before and I am extremely grateful for that and would never wish to go back.
@@mokel6353 Keep fighting for more, of course. We have a long way to go. But yes, I think it's okay to be grateful for what we have. Good people fought hard so we could have it. Not long ago we didn't even have this.
I don't think that the case for heterosexual marriage was made very well and I think most people will agree with this statement no matter what side of the argument you are on.
12-year-olds have no ability to consent to marriage under any law in the United States. Yes, you can marry your first cousin in about 26 states. In others, the cousin has to be further removed or in others you cannot marry your cousin. It's not illegal to be a same-sex couple and there is no harm done when same-sex couples marry.
N.A.F Othman Why does it have to be between the couple? There’s nothing morally wrong or an unwritten law about it. As long as the child is cared for by a healthy couple then so be it. Your point is invalid and absolutely so backwards, please jump to the 2019 era of equality. We don’t need cavemen around.
How is heterosexual couples being more likely to accidentally make babies an argument against same-sex marriage? I'm not a native speaker so I didn't understand the video %100 and I honestly can't see the connection.
@@drewvarner8001 debating over it doesn’t mean they’re any less free, the fact that such a sensitive topic can be debated just shows how free we are in America
TWO PEOPLE GOING BEFORE A JUDGE TRYING TO GET MARRIED IS NOT A MARRIAGE IT IS A PARTNERSHIP. THE BIBLE, GENESIS 2:24 " THEREFORE A MAN LEAVES HIS FATHER AND HIS MOTHER , AND CLEAVES TO HIS WIFE, AND THEY SHALL BECOME ONE.
Sandra Middleton Sorry not everyone is a bible basher in this world, religion is a outdated, double standard, hypocritical waste made by people before the 1900s who done wrong in Europe and the US
but isn't that his own view which is one of the different views people have? And he didn't say he was right and you were wrong. It's his view which is just like yours so don't judge his because it's just like yours.
@@ArixSage Depends on the incest if both are adults and both love one another that way i have no reason to be against them even though it is weird to me.
How is marriage in itself a civil right? I never understand that. Marriage is a title, and one where two sides see the word differently. There are very few people out there, who disagree with the concept of allowing gays and lesbians property and financial sharing rights.
no its also a civil right. it'd not just a title, it comes with many advantages and benefits under the law. Denying someone that because of your own religious views is stupid, but the issue here is the word marriage, which IS religious thing. The gov should not offer marriage only civil unions to any 2 adults, man or woman, jew and muslim, brother and sister, trans to trans. it should have nothing to do with love, religion, or any moral or ethical thing, it should be strictly about sharing legal responsibilities, benefits, and finances between 2 adults. a contact. Marriages should only be offered through religion endnote be tied to any set for federal filings.
I didn't make that argument and frankly neither have most advocates of same-sex marriage. The semantics game is just political posturing. It's important to note that gay couples fall in love and commit to one another just like heterosexual couples because apparently there are many ignorant people who still only see gay people as sexual objects. That, as well as explaining the hardships due to exclusion from marriage, is relevant. Religion is not an excuse to abridge the civil rights of a group.
Yes but even if the cat could give consent: Look up what these benefits of marriage are. Does the cat have an income? Can you get your cat's retirement money if it dies? No! Animal marriage would be useless. But I won't keep you back from this hilarious marriage ceremony :D Plus, you know you can't get married to a real person after you've married a cat, sooo
Here's an idea for other Christan s to think about if you know more about love than God try judging him first before you try to judge others whether they are straight couple or any excuse we might have to feel like hating your neighbors is love.
You lost me on that one. Nobody is for throwing gay people in jail for entering into a homosexual relationship, and you don't need to be married in order to be happy. Lets try again, and point to me where marriage is a fundamental right. It's not in the constitution. You're simply making a phantom argument.
I agree with you, but then why does the government still use the word marriage? To me that not separation of church and state, i think its wrong to force us to call it a marriage as well though. Still there should be no marriage license, but a union license. If you want to get married then go to a church, synagogue, mosque, ect. Everyone should still have the same rights as a couple though, just don't like the use of marriage.
Because it's "the norm". Kids don't know how they were created until about 11 or 12 years old. Up until then, how are they supposed to know whether having parents of the same sex is wrong or not? "Fact of the matter": it isn't. Unless you can provide some actual arguements as to why it is.
qween clydxx no, you can make the argument that it’s wrong because it’s going against nature and biology. The only species in the world that has a large percent of gay population are humans, meaning being gay must be a choice, if it’s not rooted in nature and the way that life develops. Homosexuality stands against the fundamental building blocks of reproduction and gender roles that has managed to created and sustain all life on earth, so should we ignore this fact just to satisfy the select few who experience a chemical reaction in their brain known as love towards the same sex?
@@corey2694 you cleary don't know what a phase is,in(most likely be) puperty people is still confused on their sexuality so they jump in conclusion too quick or some people just do it for attention
Meanwhile, diversity is better for business and the collegiate experience. Celebrating diversity is a fundamental need of a strong society. LGBTQIA+ marriage shows that we value diversity and it’s many facets. The Bible clearly says it’s an abomination that man lies with mankind, not another man, and mankind often refers to everyone, than he does a woman. The abomination is that we not see the diversity and just group it all together, when people lie in different places from one another.
@@TheodoraKimmelHello i tell them to keep their beliefs to themselves otherwise i will preach satanism to them, it got the door knockers to leave me alone forver
If same sex marriage is ok and natural. Why is it that in every homosexual relationship one of the two people involved has to role play the opposite sex?
@john smith You don’t know every same sex relationship because this is not always true. Same sex couples are very very different from opposite sex couples.
@@pdeannn800 it doesn't bother me every one is free to do what they like but I can imagine if we were all like that there won't be such a thing as a human being any more 🤔
"Sophomoric insults" I haven't insulted you once. I did insult religion, yes, but religion, when used for the destruction of civil liberties as you are advocating, is nothing but harmful. "Unwed moms struggling to make it with dead beat boys that never learned to be a man" You misunderstand. There is nothing wrong with sex, even promiscuous sex (while I certainly don't advocate it) in principle. Its outcomes can be both positive and negative.
and yes you are right. marriage is supposed to be alot more than that. it's supposed to be about love and commitment and trust and life long term relationship with the one you love. and basically when you have these open marriages well i really don't consider that as commitment but i'm also not going to keep those individuals who aren't like the others and will treat like what it's supposed to be from that right.
@TheImpeacher You prey on mankind. Your thoughts prey on mankind. Don't you see the truth? I don't know how could you still believe old teachings when you know they are hurting people.
You are the one making the positive argument (that God exists) so you are the one who must prove his existence. It's exactly like saying "what proof do you have that invisible unicorns on Mars don't exist?".
so yes i can very well call it marriage if i wish to as there are some religions who also agree with gays getting married. if you've got such a problem with it oh well. freedom of speech.
You can not take those references out of context.Slavery was not the same back then,polygamy is not ok and was not Gods plan.There were consequences for having multiple wives,it was not ok.Not sure what your talking about sex slavery?The old testament,where the stoned to death reference is superseded by the new testament's teaching.You need to look at the whole thing,also you cannot say that is is fiction nor more that I can say it is not,you can't prove or disprove,you can only show likelihood.
The argument that people should be allowed to marry anybody they want, can go into creepy and potential dangerous directions. It is much more logical to argue about equal beneficiary privileges than about "love" and argue that gay relationships between 2 people are meaningful/productive to society as whole. > There's a potential harm to society if we allow gay marriage though. Religious institutions have the potential to be under constant litigation problems and could lose tax-exempt status.
My mom raised in Buddhism and My dad was raised in Christian . My Grammy was raised in catholic and prostant. My great grandmother was Jewish. My mom aslo bought Christian Bible. My brother and I are non-religious which is different from atheist. I associated that Atheist is against in religion.
and also just bc it doesn't benefit doesn't mean that things like DOMA or Prop 8 should keep them from getting rights or benefits such as joint taxes or hospital visitation rights.
@@a.r.a.s7309 gays been here for years, what difference if they get married, their already with the one they love and straight always gonna be here, some people are gay and in the future straight will always reproduce and they will always have a kid that is gay, it is not gonna stop, it's gonna keep going for generations and generations, the world is never gonna stop reproducing.
@@chriswells89 no one's trying to stopped gay people from being together , also its not about differences , we're talking about gay people trying to valuate their believes and interests and they are expecting the world to change how ever they like and have everyone supporting them, they're basically expecting the law to change how they want , marriage will be only between male and female forever and no one can change it , i don't say it ,the human nature says , don't get me wrong , i don't have single problem with someone being gay cause that's their own business not mine, I'll only respect them for who they are , but they can't just force me and all the other straight people to support what they want , its like forcing somebody to eat a certain food they don't really like
@@a.r.a.s7309 i think gay people have the right to get married, its like me saying you don't have right to get married, but i don't have a problem with you being you.
@@blacklightning298 What I meant was that since you equated having God as a Father alongside a human father to having 2 Fathers, we all have 2 Fathers (according to Christianity's view that we are all God's Children). How can you say that Jesus has 2 Fathers, but not everybody else? You can't solely apply that interpretation to Jesus just to twist the meaning.
@@-RD your joking arnt you.. There was never a jesus or a god an i dont like what I read in bible. How can anyone worship a god that takes child sacrifice an eating children.. Its barbaric.. No i dont have some supernatural supreme being as a dad. 😁 😂
and so you're ignorant of the fact that same sex couples have intense background checks to insure their children will be adequately raised opposed to a parent without a partner which was most likely the effect of accidental procreation. Furthermore, they are not certified to become a parent. .... Your study is as weak and the arguement you tried to support it with.
so just bc the majority or minority or whatever does this we should not punish the innocent ones who is absolutely not doing what these other people do. when you put that into the fact you are basically saying this "well this group is doing this and even though these people are innocent of this act let's put them all into one group and punish them bc of what the others did"
Marriage was designed by God and is a bond between a man and a woman to live as a couple and to constitute a family. Societies trough different times have adopted it, and has given a legal framework to it. In any case, societies should legalize homosexual unions under a different name, giving similar attributes that the ones given to marriage, because the union between two people of the same sex can not constitute a marriage, since marriage is not something created by the society, but God
I love how the main argument for people to be against gay marriage is God! lol The right gay people are looking for is CIVIL marriage (actually they already got it in the US). I don't even think gay people care about marrying in church.
@Marco Silva The first recorded evidence of marriage ceremonies uniting one woman and one man actually dates from about 2350 B.C. (BEFORE Christ) in Mesopotamia. Over the next several hundred years, marriage evolved into a widespread institution LATER embraced by the ancient Hebrews, Greeks, and Romans. Sorry, but it was adopted 2 and a half THOUSAND years before Christianity even existed and the Hebrews did not adopt it until 300 years later.
but just as you said those diseases exist in heterosexuals as well but they can still get married. and the main reason the harm is noticable is bc as statistics show most gay men are usually promiscuous and have had sex with many partners. now of course this isn't all gay men but that certainly would show that would be why these are noticable mostly in gay men.
It’s impossible that homosexuals can be married based on the Termanology every much is there is a such thing as four sided triangles because the terms are self refuting marriage or matrimony implies that there is a mother present, and it Hass to be a single mom not multiple mothers. Matrimony means one mother matri means mother in monos means 12 men cannot be mothers into women. Well, you have a potential of two mothers, but you have to involve a man which would be bigamy so gays cannot be married yesterday not today or not ever.
what proof do you have that there is a god? or better yet what proof that it was your God that made everything? there are countless other religions that can say that their gods or goddesses did it just as much as you are claiming that yours did. and also btw marriage has also has involved one man and many women so don't try to pull the stunt of "the formal union between one man and one woman" when it truly hasn't been that way throughout all of time.
@@dayz4Her I think a former civilization in a previous dying universe made the Big Bang from their advanced technology, and that's how our current universe was born.
i have already mentioned the fact that alot of gay men sleep with other people. and there heterosexuals with these open marriages as well and here's another thing for which by the way is we do not punish the individual for what another does. there gay people who want a monogamous relationship. who want to be married to the one they love and stay with them and not sleep with anyone else.
actually there is. does a homosexual believe in God or Jesus? yep. well there you have it folks a homosexual christian who just believes the bible differently than you do..
Not true. I know gay people that didn't want to get married and were fine with Civil Partnerships...or they wanted to get rid of the whole marriage system altogether.
@@seulgi4655 Why? Fundamentalist Muslims believe that women should be subservient to men because their book says so. I ignore them because I don't have to take them seriously. Why should I be forced to take your book into consideration?
@yes actually no, the bible says in Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." God created a man to marry a woman and a woman to marry a man, not any other.
ooooh yaaaaaaay i get to make a point on the adam and eve not adam and steve argument. it's irrelevant considering that alot of people don't believe in the bible so therefore adam and eve didn't exist. also there are homosexual christians who do believe in God. but also your religion is no better than anyone else's such as wiccans or buddhism or anything else which by the way some religions do agree with gay marriage who can claime that their religion is as true as yours.
There is no such thing as same sex marriage! Marriage has always been defined as a unification between a man and a woman. It's impossible to classify a gay unification as marraige. Always have been, always will be. Changing the definition of marriage is like changing the definition of a person. You can suddenly decide that people are intelligent creatures with white skin and anyone else outside that range is considered not a person. Definitions were given to us from God for a reason. Who are we to change it? In conclusion, I've firmly decided to marry a woman in the future, Angel to be exact. I am 15 years old and I have the sense enough to say this, and I hope young people will take a stand for what is right!
Christians is not the only religions . There is Afro-Caribbean , The Baha' i Faith , Buddhism , Christianity, Confucianism , Daoism ,Hinduism , Islam , Jainism, Judaism,Native American Traditions, Paganism, Shinto, Sikhism , Unitarian Universalism , Zorotrianism , Athesim , non-reglious.
and i just realized what you meant at the bottom about the fact that it disgusts you in heterosexuals too in having open marriages lol which i didn't get the first time when i read it lol i must be tired and getting slow lol. i better get to bed too.
I can understand the people who are against same sex marriage are worried that if they approve of same sex couples would mean that they must approve to the marriage between a human and animal, a living being and dead being, incest and pedophiles but my believe is that so long as the age of consent (19 and above) is still going then there shouldn’t be a problem. And so long as the definition consenting living adults is there then all should be fine.
"There is not difference between parenting". This is a false statement. Of course there is a difference whether a woman raises the child of a man raises tthe child! its not tha sama because women and men are quite different...
No, the meta-analysis by Crowl et al. (2008) investigated differences between children raised by same-sex and heterosexual couples across 19 studies in relation to six developmental outcomes. No differences were found between children raised by heterosexual or same-sex parents in the following four areas: cognitive development, psychological adjustment, gender identity, or sexual partner preference.
Marriage is between love and love=so can I marry my cat I'm attracted to her /him=men and women are like blue and red magnetis they need each other and it won't go well
I don't understand how you can equate gay marriage to marrying an animal. Your first statement has a logical fallacy. Your cat is an animal. It cannot consent. You cannot say that your cat consents because it has no way to communicate with you and thus your argument is null. Marriage is between two consenting adults, which means that minors and animals by default cannot enter into a marriage. Your second argument also makes no sense. Saying that men and women are like magnets means nothing. I could say that I'm the blue magnet and my soulmate is my red magnet, whether they be female or male. Analogies mean nothing unless they're backed by factual evidence, of which you have none. And before you point out that I don't have evidence either for this, I'm merely pointing out the flaws in what you've said, not making my own arguments. Anyways, I hope you have a good morning/afternoon/evening and thanks for reading this if you do. I think I may have come across as brusque but I'd like to say that wasn't my intention :)
What is hurting people is the constant erosion of moral and ethical measures. The issue is that we have a society which is decaying and trying to foster equality for gays and lesbians. Clearly gays and lesbians are different in terms of their sexual orientation. and because of this orientation procreation is not possible by naturals means in a gay or lesbian couple. ''Therefore we have provisions for families bearing the burden of their own children
So that means that straight couples who are either infertile or simply have no intention of procreating, should also be banned from marrying. It's the exact same logic
How does it destroy the lives of four people, when it actually makes them happier. They get the chance to live their lives freely. Even if gay marriage was Illegal these people would still be gay.
For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. They will reject the truth and chase after myths. 2 Timothy 4:3-4
Ahg, it's a simple no from me. Homosexual people say they want equality, then why act as if you should be treated with caution? Just go about your business and stop shoving it in people's faces if you ask oppositions to allow you of your right to choose and leave you alone. Leave us alone to disagree as well. Thank you and goodnight.
A large majority of people in the LGBTQ+ community are still assaulted, harassed and killed for being who they are. We don’t want to be treated with caution, I want to be treated equally and I want to be judged on who I am, not my sexuality.
@@icantthinkofaname5950 The rate of promiscuity is infinitely higher among homosexuals than heterosexuals. It's up to the individual whether there's anything wrong with that, but don't pretend they are the same.
Let me use a simpler paradigm.. I have no issues with anyone's sexual orientation if consensual. I also believe that the Gov as no business in the anyone's bedroom. However I do believe that Federal help for families who procreate should be for hetero families only
No reason to be against same sex marriages as it doesn't affect anyone but the couples.
*Any other homosexuals searching for anti gay commercials for no reason?*
broccoli senpai everyday
Haha. Yeah. I just kinda wanna see what they have to say
Yep
Yeah i keep on replying to homophobia and getting mad in the process. I need to stop 😂
I’m not gay but I really enjoy fighting homophobes :))
religious arguments aren't valid on things that have nothing to do with religion.
@@thejurassicchicken1190 lol same sex marriage has nothing to do with religion,
gerd easdo Same can be said when gay people push their agenda on media that ha snitching to do with sexuality
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Religion is kinda like believing in santa clays expect there is sinister cult around it
@@thejurassicchicken1190 It's the worste thing invented by human
Niashe this is stupid af
If you don't like same-sex marriage, don't get one.
If your religion says homosexuality is a sin, don't commit homosexual acts.
If you don't like Red Ford Mustangs, don't buy one.
It is simple, really. Let's see if you have enough common sense to comprehend this basic Kindergarten knowledge.
If you don't like pedophilia, don't do it
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Wow, look at you, comparing an actual crime (pedophila) to something harmless (homosexuality). Big man here, real smart.
@Benedict Agpalo
A 'sort of understanding' is not an understanding. I had never even heard of sex when I was eleven. The first and only sex education I got was when I was 14. But the most important thing is not if they know what sex is, but if they understand the repercussions of it and if they understand how to tell an unhealthy relationship from a healthy one. And even with all this knowledge their brains are still developing. In particular- the part of the brain that helps you evaluate things before making decisions is not fully developed until 21-25. Does that not ring alarm bells to you? If it doesn't then you need to look over the meaning of consent again.
yes Since you are saying how are black people beneficial to society how about white people?
yes black people have benefited society 🤣 how dumb can you be? Black people invented many thing that have benefited society
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
-Abraham Lincoln
Sometimes, things need to be said. Sometimes, action needs to be taken.
@Colm Curtin lmao yeah he definitely was😂
@Colm Curtin that is factually false
gays should have the right to be as miserable as all the divorced or married straight people.
Ryan Costa nah. We marry people we actually like.
Everyone’sfavoritelesbian straight people marry who they like too?¿ wtf
KittenGone Arrow-Ender he’s tryna say we like men’s but we pretend to like women🤦🏾♂️
"Government shouldn't have any business deciding anything about marriage"
I am in complete agreement - so what's with the gay-bashing???
@@StephenKershaw1 Marriage is licensed by the state to protect the underaged, those who could be taken advantage of (like the handicapped), and the elderly. Once the marriage is officiated, it receives all the benefits covered by law. A couple can get married without a licence. But, that doesn't mean they will receive all the benefits the law can provide to married people. As such, technically, all the law does is provide legal benefits to married people.
Burgerdog Vids thanks for calling me weird, sorry to hear your opinion doesn’t matter 😍
@@ZachRosauer gay basher
Polygamy, inbreeding, deletion of lower age limits, when? That would be freedom.
@@johnk960 you cant make marrying underage legal because the child wouldnt be able to give consent.
Marriage is a civil right for the reasons laid out in our Constitution, where no person is to be deprived of the right to life, liberty, or property, without due process of law. Think about the relationship people share with each other, the investment and commitment they make to be life partners. That is a human right and nobody should be denied it when it doesn't harm anyone. Encouraging stable households is great for society and gay couples deserve stability of marriage just as anyone else.
So...?
@@mohanadhamdani7249 What do you mean so
@@mohanadhamdani7249 exactly
What the benefit that you expect ing from gay marriage ?
Mohanad Hamdani - Your question is very dumb. It’s obvious why people want to be married. I don’t need to spell it out for you.
That CBS eyeball is creeping me out.
Sauron.
facts
*It should*
It is based on the Eye of Horus, Illuminati symbol. You might not believe me, but many logos have Satanic symbolism. Google wheel symbol is 666, Monster drink is 666 in Hebrew, Google Mail has Masonic, Satanic symbolism etc.
@@aspiknf 😂😂😂 the eye of Horus is satanic😂😂 you mean the thing that existed before Christianity Catholicism, Judaism, even existed😂😂
If Jehovah (God) designed romantic and sexual activity only for married opposite-sex couples, then why did God give us romantic and sexual desires (during adolescence) before marriage in the first place? Surely, he could have designed the body to develop these desires only when a person is married instead of giving it to us during our adolescence which sets people up to sin or just makes obeying his laws based on sexuality harder than it should be.
If homosexuality is 'unnatural' as the Bible describes it, why does homosexuality seem to be irreversible? Surely, if God wants us to believe that homosexuality is 'unnatural' and unjustifiable, he could make homosexuality a choice, make it reversible and make it dangerous (not make homosexuality good for homosexuals).
@Dance4JC People who are gay know that they are before having their first sexual encounter. Straight adolescent boys fantasize about girls while gay adolescent boys fantasize about other boys, same for lesbians but with the genders reversed. If you're straight and you think you're some kind of expert then think again because you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
@Dance4JC I did and I couldn't find anything.
He's 11, though.
Actually I know the answer to all of this I’ve been studying this exact thing for 7 years and traveled half way around the world to figure it out the answer that seem to be 100% factual was that god doesn’t exists👊🏽
What would be the point or test in life if you had nothing to fight against? No test of will
I know a man who was rejected by his family. They had nothing to do with him. His brothers and sisters claimed to be religious and disagreed with his orientation. He went to college and got a job as a professor of education in a local college in his home city. He was so hurt he said that he was going to leave all he had to Goodwill. He died suddenly and alone with no will. But after he died, the family that hurt and rejected him all came forward wanting a piece of his nice home, belongings, and vehicles. With no shame they spoke up to claim this man's belongings greedily. He was nothing to them but they all were sure to cash in on him. He to this day has no gravestone. Buried next to his mom. This is one reason why gay marriage is important. It's not all about a marriage license to hang on the wall and a fancy wedding. But to make sure also upon your death that partner is given all they had worked hard for. To be able to get insurance coverage for your partner from your workplace if they have no insurance coverage. The right wing conservatives I guarantee are much more concerned about those possible cost than any moral issue. I wish certain groups would wake up to just how crooked and silver tongued these politicians are. As long as you give Alot of money to the politicians that say they are religious and support your causes, they will play the part. What does Jesus say about the Rich Man?
Woah!
These comments are filled with homophobic garbage. This disgusts me.
Me too bud, me too.
Niashe technically the Christians started it at first sooo
Even if it is against religion, we allow people with different beliefs to do what they want as long as it is in legal standards. Gay marriage isn't infringing on legal laws, so as long as it doesn't infringe and force other people to believe what they believe, then it is allowed.
well homosexuality used to be illegal.
what makes it moraly ok now?
what changes opinion?
what definition can you use to justify making it legal to begin with?
oh P.S it did infringe and force other people to change their beliefs on gay marriages.
@@gregyork7527 woman couldnt vote in the past either, the past isnt a good framework for rules now. also how tf are you playing the victim while actively trying to take someones rights away
@@gregyork7527 how about you prove to me first how its immoral, since you are the accusor you should explain your standpoint first. explain how its immoral
@@vaporized2065 I didnt make the rules for what is moral. I'm not the creator that said for a man to lay with a man is a sin. For a woman to lay with a woman is a sin. You have to ask our father why it's immoral. I suspect because he created male and female and he said for them to populate the earth. He is a creator so I suspect he wanted us to create.
Man and a man can't. Neither can a woman and a woman. It's not love it's lust. For you to lay with the same sex realizing that they can burn for it. Then you don't love them it's lust
same sex marriage should be legal and not even looked at! it's a living choice. everyone should have the right to marry whomever they decide to. why does everyone feel that they need to control how all of us live?
so if a mother and child wanted to marry it should be ok?
or how about a dad and his very young daughter, or a man and his female dog.
where does is stop. I mean couldn't we use the same arguments to change public opinion for any perverse and sickening sexual act. because people used to think about homosexuality just like these other sickening perverse sexual acts.
@@gregyork7527 If the child is 18 or older. If your speaking about a literal child than I'd say that they don't have enough expierence to consent.
@@pandemicphilly60 well they are trying to legalize pedophilia. They are using the same arguments the gay rights have used. If a child isn't injured and likes it then they should be happy in their own body. Now that is perverse just as much as homosexuality. Nothing can make it moral.
@@gregyork7527 your dumb obviously this doesn’t include family members
@@advstation2003 why not . Why should you be so closed minded about it.
Don't everyone have the right to be happy as long as it's not hurting anyone right.
Why wouldn't you take up for their rights to be happy in their own body.
MY religion? sorry sir, you are mistaken. I was using THEIR religion to show them how wrong they are. A quick google of the verses I listed will reveal that I am in SUPPORT of any person's right to marry.
Really? How about Islam? Can you say we're wrong? Sorry I'm not offended or anything, I just want to see you try
Ayoo answer WrinkleBoB hee/she asked you a question
some Americans are so full of ideas that they crossed the delusional line.
Yes i agree
Agree
GAY IS OKAY.
“Shouldn’t all Americans have the right to marry whomever they love?”
Ok so a brother can marry a brother? A son can marry a father? Is there no moral restraint anymore or is it just a free for all? Anyone can marry anyone with no moral compass?
If you are to marry a family member that is incest and if you guys have Kids the children will most likely have birth defects so yes that should be illegal but a same sex marriage isn’t hurting anyone
mackahlan Shamp if that’s the reason then why isn’t it illegal for older couple to have babies, since older couples are far more likely to conceive babies with birth defects. And what if it’s same gendered incest? A brother and a brother? They’re not harming anyone, why shouldn’t they be together?
Graci Grapefruit Lool please come to an argument with facts. It is scientifically proven that women over 34 that give birth, the child is more likely to have birth defects. Go look it up before you embarrass yourself again. And it’s just so hilarious how the ONLY thing people like you have against incest is the birth defect argument. Or that it’s “just wrong”. Why is it wrong? Just because it’s a family member? You’re argument is that they share the same dna so they shouldn’t be together? Well homosexuals share the same gender which is why they shouldn’t be together. And since you wana keep bringing up the birth defect argument, since it’s the only argument you have, what if it’s two brothers? Or two family meme wes of the same gender? Why is that still wrong but two men in general having sex is fine? Why is the line drawn at being brothers but not at gender?
Clarence Escuella so you both committed a straw man fallacy AND a slippery slope fallacy all in the same thought process. Good job! You’re twice as dumb and illogical as I thought.
Clarence Escuella you’re struggling with something if you can’t see the moral difference between two men who love each other and incest
The only confused about it is you. Kids of gay families are aware that both parents are the same sex just like kids of single parent households are aware that one of the other parents isn't there. You've been saying the same disingenuous crap for years now, with no evidence to back it up...get a new schtick.
You are playing with words aren't you. You were also played with words I believe, if not I don't know then. What's the connection of procreation. There are heterosexuals who are not able to procreate. Moral and ethics? Look at homophobia, that is an example of erosion of morality and ethics.
bunnydisney2 so true, plus a seven year old comment! Wow!
Dude. God created marriage to be between a man and a woman. That's not homophobia. That's straight facts. The truth of the matter is, homosexual marriage, by definition, is non-existent.
What about heterophobia? By your definition, you were heterophobic just now because you undermined their ability to procreate and pointed out that some don't, just to support your own flawed ethics. Ethics apart from God does not exist!
@@DJ.XreX-777 That is a argument based in religion. In America, church and state are kept separate. Therefore, religion should have no say in deciding what laws should be enacted.
@@firestarter-eo8ws Yet the religions of humanism and atheism have a great deal to say about laws that are being enacted. Humanism has a set of beliefs and practices and humanity itself is the deity. Therefore it is a religion. Atheism may claim not to believe in a God (thoh that is ridiculous since that assumes the possibility that God indeed exists), but they follow a set of beliefs otherwise, practice atheism daily, confessing in their mind that there is no God, and generally makes nature, science, or oneself to be their god.
And that’s not even what separation of Church and State means. That is nowhere in the Constitution, nor is your meaning of it supported by the Framers. Thomas Jefferson wrote a letter to a church saying that the Government would not interfere with, influence or overtake the church like the English Government did in instituting Church of England. And religion is encouraged if not required for our republic to work. So Christian religion is required to fully engage in the American way of life.
I almost miss the days when we were actively having this debate. All the arguments against marriage equality were just so obviously stupid. "We'll be forced to let people marry their pets." "God doesn't like it and I have a book in which he says so." "Changing the definition of something is just bad, sorry." Good times. EDIT: To clarify I realize that lgbtq folks are much better off now than they were before and I am extremely grateful for that and would never wish to go back.
Lmao I think homosexuality should not be a thing. Man should be with woman, woman should be with man idc how anyone feels about it it's my opinion.
Does it affect you in any way?
@@proapower8713 damn you’re ignorant
extremely grateful for the bare minimum?
@@mokel6353 Keep fighting for more, of course. We have a long way to go. But yes, I think it's okay to be grateful for what we have. Good people fought hard so we could have it. Not long ago we didn't even have this.
I heard it's because
"Parents need a mother/father figure"
Single parents should just give yo their children to CPS???
Lmao😂
I don't think that the case for heterosexual marriage was made very well and I think most people will agree with this statement no matter what side of the argument you are on.
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12-year-olds have no ability to consent to marriage under any law in the United States. Yes, you can marry your first cousin in about 26 states. In others, the cousin has to be further removed or in others you cannot marry your cousin. It's not illegal to be a same-sex couple and there is no harm done when same-sex couples marry.
Why can't cousins marry each other? Everyone should be able to marry who they want!! #samesexmarriage #letcousinsmarryeachother
it's just as perverse as screwing a dog.
@@moldovananti-zionist6276 You can search why inc*st is dangerious. It's about genetics.
just let the people marry who they want and love their children it doesn’t involve you. thank you for listening to my ted talk. 🏳️🌈
They will not have child if they are gay/lesbian.
N.A.F Othman they are capable of biologically reproducing
@@tonythomas7009 between the couple? For gay couple, which will get pregnant? For lesbian, who will produce the sperm?
@@voodoo1111 Precisely.
N.A.F Othman Why does it have to be between the couple? There’s nothing morally wrong or an unwritten law about it. As long as the child is cared for by a healthy couple then so be it. Your point is invalid and absolutely so backwards, please jump to the 2019 era of equality. We don’t need cavemen around.
How is heterosexual couples being more likely to accidentally make babies an argument against same-sex marriage? I'm not a native speaker so I didn't understand the video %100 and I honestly can't see the connection.
It’s just not a good argument
Love to see my rights be argued against 😐
"Land of the free"😐
It's more of Religion vs Gay Rights
@@GetAfckinlife at the time both of you wrote those comments gay marriage is legal
@@Maniacjet they were still saying we shouldn’t have those rights OP was saying that was bad not that we don’t have those rights
@@drewvarner8001 debating over it doesn’t mean they’re any less free, the fact that such a sensitive topic can be debated just shows how free we are in America
I like how they bring up the argument against same sex marriage instead of actual having a person to debate them live. Cowardice.
TWO PEOPLE GOING BEFORE A JUDGE TRYING TO GET MARRIED IS NOT A MARRIAGE IT IS A PARTNERSHIP. THE BIBLE, GENESIS 2:24 " THEREFORE A MAN LEAVES HIS FATHER AND HIS MOTHER , AND CLEAVES TO HIS WIFE, AND THEY SHALL BECOME ONE.
Sandra Middleton Sorry not everyone is a bible basher in this world, religion is a outdated, double standard, hypocritical waste made by people before the 1900s who done wrong in Europe and the US
Amen say it again!
Bringing up religion decimates your entire point because religion is subjective
but isn't that his own view which is one of the different views people have? And he didn't say he was right and you were wrong. It's his view which is just like yours so don't judge his because it's just like yours.
What about area 51 ?
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searching for any opposing opinions i need for my debate in school lol
saaaame omg
“Should gay couples be allowed to adopt” essay
My take on this is to not get involved.
Also i don't like gay marriage, but i'm not against it.
What don't you like about it?
@@samdorbin4763 some people hate the idea of 'human rights'😒
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I don't like gay marriage but I'm not against it. What a bloody clown.
You say you don't like it, but I bet you've never even tried it.
@@diallo9668 Don't be mean to him, he is just deeply indoctrinated by Christianity or something.
In my opinion I think any couple has the right to get married
Not an incest couple, lol
@@aspiknf or a grown adult and a child
@@ArixSage Depends on the incest if both are adults and both love one another that way i have no reason to be against them even though it is weird to me.
@@Synn12356 But incest is dangerous. Inbreeding is dangerous for children. Gay marriage on the other hand hurts no one
@@Devsord637 marriage has nothing to do with children
How is marriage in itself a civil right? I never understand that. Marriage is a title, and one where two sides see the word differently. There are very few people out there, who disagree with the concept of allowing gays and lesbians property and financial sharing rights.
It's not just about marriage. It's about a lot more, it's about equality.
no its also a civil right. it'd not just a title, it comes with many advantages and benefits under the law. Denying someone that because of your own religious views is stupid, but the issue here is the word marriage, which IS religious thing. The gov should not offer marriage only civil unions to any 2 adults, man or woman, jew and muslim, brother and sister, trans to trans. it should have nothing to do with love, religion, or any moral or ethical thing, it should be strictly about sharing legal responsibilities, benefits, and finances between 2 adults. a contact. Marriages should only be offered through religion endnote be tied to any set for federal filings.
I didn't make that argument and frankly neither have most advocates of same-sex marriage. The semantics game is just political posturing. It's important to note that gay couples fall in love and commit to one another just like heterosexual couples because apparently there are many ignorant people who still only see gay people as sexual objects. That, as well as explaining the hardships due to exclusion from marriage, is relevant. Religion is not an excuse to abridge the civil rights of a group.
i want to marry my cat , i demand this , different species marriage type of thing , just get it done .
Cat can't give consent.
Yes but even if the cat could give consent: Look up what these benefits of marriage are. Does the cat have an income? Can you get your cat's retirement money if it dies? No! Animal marriage would be useless. But I won't keep you back from this hilarious marriage ceremony :D
Plus, you know you can't get married to a real person after you've married a cat, sooo
Feat. Cicero r/woooosh
@@RayQns No
"Bestiality" is just as perverted as homosexuality.....maybe even WORSE
This comment section is so toxic
Here's an idea for other Christan s to think about if you know more about love than God try judging him first before you try to judge others whether they are straight couple or any excuse we might have to feel like hating your neighbors is love.
Why you attacking Christians bro?
The heck
Why u attack christians
He’s not attacking Christians. He’s pointing out their hypocrisy.
Deadpool Media how
You lost me on that one. Nobody is for throwing gay people in jail for entering into a homosexual relationship, and you don't need to be married in order to be happy. Lets try again, and point to me where marriage is a fundamental right. It's not in the constitution. You're simply making a phantom argument.
It's not just about marriage, it's about equality.
and even if you take the homosexual christian argument out the rest of the statement still stands
I agree with you, but then why does the government still use the word marriage? To me that not separation of church and state, i think its wrong to force us to call it a marriage as well though. Still there should be no marriage license, but a union license. If you want to get married then go to a church, synagogue, mosque, ect. Everyone should still have the same rights as a couple though, just don't like the use of marriage.
Fact of the matter is kids crave a mom and a dad
Because it's "the norm". Kids don't know how they were created until about 11 or 12 years old. Up until then, how are they supposed to know whether having parents of the same sex is wrong or not? "Fact of the matter": it isn't. Unless you can provide some actual arguements as to why it is.
It takes a sperm and an egg to create a human being not two egg or two sperm drops
Mr. Cheezits no matter how much a woman tries it can never in principle fully fulfill the role of a father and vice versa.
They don’t tho
@@Aiden-et5po you probably grew up in a broken home
This is my advice:
Person:you can’t marry the same sex
Me: ok I’m just gonna grab a ring and change my last name BAM I’m married UwU
I think they are wanting the same legal and tax benefits as married heterosexual couples which is the bigger issue.
if i don't believe in god, 99% of all arguments against gay marriage vanish in an instant lmao
qween clydxx no, you can make the argument that it’s wrong because it’s going against nature and biology. The only species in the world that has a large percent of gay population are humans, meaning being gay must be a choice, if it’s not rooted in nature and the way that life develops. Homosexuality stands against the fundamental building blocks of reproduction and gender roles that has managed to created and sustain all life on earth, so should we ignore this fact just to satisfy the select few who experience a chemical reaction in their brain known as love towards the same sex?
Corey i really don't know what to tell you, since i was just making a joke lmao
@@corey2694 you clearly don't know how sexuality work
hy oh if sexuality isnt a choice, why are there people who once claimed to be homosexual turning straight?
@@corey2694 you cleary don't know what a phase is,in(most likely be) puperty people is still confused on their sexuality so they jump in conclusion too quick or some people just do it for attention
How about we actually do. Right to marry is not in the constitution. Pursuit of happiness does not mean, I can take any word I want, and apply to me.
Meanwhile, diversity is better for business and the collegiate experience. Celebrating diversity is a fundamental need of a strong society. LGBTQIA+ marriage shows that we value diversity and it’s many facets. The Bible clearly says it’s an abomination that man lies with mankind, not another man, and mankind often refers to everyone, than he does a woman. The abomination is that we not see the diversity and just group it all together, when people lie in different places from one another.
who cares what the bible says?
@@nikoappsmuggred7220 some people use it to control others, might as well read and analyze for yourself to outsmart them, that’s how I see it
@@TheodoraKimmelHello i tell them to keep their beliefs to themselves otherwise i will preach satanism to them, it got the door knockers to leave me alone forver
If same sex marriage is ok and natural. Why is it that in every homosexual relationship one of the two people involved has to role play the opposite sex?
that’s a stereotype.
@john smith You don’t know every same sex relationship because this is not always true. Same sex couples are very very different from opposite sex couples.
Trust a heterosexual to know everything about same sex relationships
I don't get what a man would fined in an other man and a woman in an other woman ??!!! So anunderstandable
It’s because you’re not gay.
@@tobyflenderson892 maybe but either ways I have my own beleives that it's starts from the way you raise your child
i don't understand why it bothers you so much ???!!!!???
If you're not homosexual, how would you even know what it feels like? Just..shut it man.
@@pdeannn800 it doesn't bother me every one is free to do what they like but I can imagine if we were all like that there won't be such a thing as a human being any more 🤔
"Sophomoric insults"
I haven't insulted you once. I did insult religion, yes, but religion, when used for the destruction of civil liberties as you are advocating, is nothing but harmful.
"Unwed moms struggling to make it with dead beat boys that never learned to be a man"
You misunderstand. There is nothing wrong with sex, even promiscuous sex (while I certainly don't advocate it) in principle. Its outcomes can be both positive and negative.
and yes you are right. marriage is supposed to be alot more than that. it's supposed to be about love and commitment and trust and life long term relationship with the one you love. and basically when you have these open marriages well i really don't consider that as commitment but i'm also not going to keep those individuals who aren't like the others and will treat like what it's supposed to be from that right.
That's awkward. I apologize for this, I hope you forgive me.
James Howard were you gay?
What?
I’m confused
@TheImpeacher You prey on mankind. Your thoughts prey on mankind. Don't you see the truth? I don't know how could you still believe old teachings when you know they are hurting people.
You are the one making the positive argument (that God exists) so you are the one who must prove his existence. It's exactly like saying "what proof do you have that invisible unicorns on Mars don't exist?".
aarongtr180 one has support, the other doesn’t, that’s the difference.
0hi osrs The burden of proof is on you guys :P
0hi osrs The burden of proof is on you guys :P
so yes i can very well call it marriage if i wish to as there are some religions who also agree with gays getting married. if you've got such a problem with it oh well. freedom of speech.
Seishin all words are made up and gibberish
You can not take those references out of context.Slavery was not the same back then,polygamy is not ok and was not Gods plan.There were consequences for having multiple wives,it was not ok.Not sure what your talking about sex slavery?The old testament,where the stoned to death reference is superseded by the new testament's teaching.You need to look at the whole thing,also you cannot say that is is fiction nor more that I can say it is not,you can't prove or disprove,you can only show likelihood.
Do you remember the time in the bible when (gentiles) non- jews were considered to be dogs?
The argument that people should be allowed to marry anybody they want, can go into creepy and potential dangerous directions. It is much more logical to argue about equal beneficiary privileges than about "love" and argue that gay relationships between 2 people are meaningful/productive to society as whole. > There's a potential harm to society if we allow gay marriage though. Religious institutions have the potential to be under constant litigation problems and could lose tax-exempt status.
How will gay marriage hurt religious institutions exactly
My mom raised in Buddhism and My dad was raised in Christian . My Grammy was raised in catholic and prostant. My great grandmother was Jewish. My mom aslo bought Christian Bible. My brother and I are non-religious which is different from atheist. I associated that Atheist is against in religion.
and also just bc it doesn't benefit doesn't mean that things like DOMA or Prop 8 should keep them from getting rights or benefits such as joint taxes or hospital visitation rights.
People should understand why god prohibited same-gender marriage in order to understand how bad is that for humanity
What is the reason?
@@icantthinkofaname5950 the reason that its not natural and have an impact on the society
@@a.r.a.s7309 gays been here for years, what difference if they get married, their already with the one they love and straight always gonna be here, some people are gay and in the future straight will always reproduce and they will always have a kid that is gay, it is not gonna stop, it's gonna keep going for generations and generations, the world is never gonna stop reproducing.
@@chriswells89 no one's trying to stopped gay people from being together , also its not about differences , we're talking about gay people trying to valuate their believes and interests and they are expecting the world to change how ever they like and have everyone supporting them, they're basically expecting the law to change how they want , marriage will be only between male and female forever and no one can change it , i don't say it ,the human nature says , don't get me wrong , i don't have single problem with someone being gay cause that's their own business not mine, I'll only respect them for who they are , but they can't just force me and all the other straight people to support what they want , its like forcing somebody to eat a certain food they don't really like
@@a.r.a.s7309 i think gay people have the right to get married, its like me saying you don't have right to get married, but i don't have a problem with you being you.
Jesus had 2 father's an he turned out ok.... Well he did ha g around with 12 men.. Alot..
that doesn't count...one was a human father, the other one is a spiritual father.....he also only had one mother!..lol
And in that case, don't we all have 2 Fathers (God and Human)?
@@-RD no. No we don't I have mum an dad.. Thats all.
@@blacklightning298 What I meant was that since you equated having God as a Father alongside a human father to having 2 Fathers, we all have 2 Fathers (according to Christianity's view that we are all God's Children).
How can you say that Jesus has 2 Fathers, but not everybody else? You can't solely apply that interpretation to Jesus just to twist the meaning.
@@-RD your joking arnt you.. There was never a jesus or a god an i dont like what I read in bible. How can anyone worship a god that takes child sacrifice an eating children.. Its barbaric.. No i dont have some supernatural supreme being as a dad. 😁 😂
and so you're ignorant of the fact that same sex couples have intense background checks to insure their children will be adequately raised opposed to a parent without a partner which was most likely the effect of accidental procreation. Furthermore, they are not certified to become a parent. .... Your study is as weak and the arguement you tried to support it with.
You, too!
so just bc the majority or minority or whatever does this we should not punish the innocent ones who is absolutely not doing what these other people do. when you put that into the fact you are basically saying this "well this group is doing this and even though these people are innocent of this act let's put them all into one group and punish them bc of what the others did"
Marriage was designed by God and is a bond between a man and a woman to live as a couple and to constitute a family. Societies trough different times have adopted it, and has given a legal framework to it. In any case, societies should legalize homosexual unions under a different name, giving similar attributes that the ones given to marriage, because the union between two people of the same sex can not constitute a marriage, since marriage is not something created by the society, but God
Marco Silva Sorry, but you can’t use God as a valid argument for gay marriage to not be legal.
I love how the main argument for people to be against gay marriage is God! lol
The right gay people are looking for is CIVIL marriage (actually they already got it in the US). I don't even think gay people care about marrying in church.
@Marco Silva The first recorded evidence of marriage ceremonies uniting one woman and one man actually dates from about 2350 B.C. (BEFORE Christ) in Mesopotamia. Over the next several hundred years, marriage evolved into a widespread institution LATER embraced by the ancient Hebrews, Greeks, and Romans. Sorry, but it was adopted 2 and a half THOUSAND years before Christianity even existed and the Hebrews did not adopt it until 300 years later.
Ambur Price yes God is a valid argument
God is just Santa for adults who have aged, but not grown up.
but just as you said those diseases exist in heterosexuals as well but they can still get married. and the main reason the harm is noticable is bc as statistics show most gay men are usually promiscuous and have had sex with many partners. now of course this isn't all gay men but that certainly would show that would be why these are noticable mostly in gay men.
It’s impossible that homosexuals can be married based on the Termanology every much is there is a such thing as four sided triangles because the terms are self refuting marriage or matrimony implies that there is a mother present, and it Hass to be a single mom not multiple mothers. Matrimony means one mother matri means mother in monos means 12 men cannot be mothers into women. Well, you have a potential of two mothers, but you have to involve a man which would be bigamy so gays cannot be married yesterday not today or not ever.
And wedding?
If
what proof do you have that there is a god? or better yet what proof that it was your God that made everything? there are countless other religions that can say that their gods or goddesses did it just as much as you are claiming that yours did. and also btw marriage has also has involved one man and many women so don't try to pull the stunt of "the formal union between one man and one woman" when it truly hasn't been that way throughout all of time.
@Seishin its simple the proof that there is a God is your very existence
That's not proof at all.
@@dayz4Her I think a former civilization in a previous dying universe made the Big Bang from their advanced technology, and that's how our current universe was born.
i have already mentioned the fact that alot of gay men sleep with other people. and there heterosexuals with these open marriages as well and here's another thing for which by the way is we do not punish the individual for what another does. there gay people who want a monogamous relationship. who want to be married to the one they love and stay with them and not sleep with anyone else.
I thought DOMA was stroke down already
So they lied about the real situation 😂 there is no issue is a under statement
actually there is. does a homosexual believe in God or Jesus? yep. well there you have it folks a homosexual christian who just believes the bible differently than you do..
Seishin please do not generalise and say things like “does a homosexual” it’s very inhuman like and olastic
Fact: 4 gay people want to all get married.
My gosh.
What?
Not true. I know gay people that didn't want to get married and were fine with Civil Partnerships...or they wanted to get rid of the whole marriage system altogether.
This has nothing to do with some book....
490er it does
@@seulgi4655 Why? Fundamentalist Muslims believe that women should be subservient to men because their book says so. I ignore them because I don't have to take them seriously. Why should I be forced to take your book into consideration?
It does because they use their book as an excuse to be homophobes.
You're twisting scripture I read through that website you posted. With the Holy Spirit you can interpret the truth.
The scripture is fiction
yes NO it doesn’t
yes it states that u are supposed to be with a female
@yes actually no, the bible says in Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." God created a man to marry a woman and a woman to marry a man, not any other.
yes oooo comeback!
ooooh yaaaaaaay i get to make a point on the adam and eve not adam and steve argument. it's irrelevant considering that alot of people don't believe in the bible so therefore adam and eve didn't exist. also there are homosexual christians who do believe in God. but also your religion is no better than anyone else's such as wiccans or buddhism or anything else which by the way some religions do agree with gay marriage who can claime that their religion is as true as yours.
Damnit it isn’t right but it isn’t wrong. We like who ever we will. It’s human for god sake.
DISLIKE
There is no such thing as same sex marriage! Marriage has always been defined as a unification between a man and a woman. It's impossible to classify a gay unification as marraige. Always have been, always will be. Changing the definition of marriage is like changing the definition of a person. You can suddenly decide that people are intelligent creatures with white skin and anyone else outside that range is considered not a person. Definitions were given to us from God for a reason. Who are we to change it?
In conclusion, I've firmly decided to marry a woman in the future, Angel to be exact.
I am 15 years old and I have the sense enough to say this, and I hope young people will take a stand for what is right!
this is the most dramatic comment i have ever read in my live im wheezing " TaKE a StAnD fOr WHat iS rIgHt "
eddie kaspbrak I’ve written what I’ve written
God didn't give us definitions lmao. Time to grow up and join us in the real world
There is no God.
@@madi6704 I still stand by it
Nothing to argue. Its sick wrong and perverted. Leave people to their own choices.
*It's.
Marriage is between and man and woman Adam and Eve NOT Adam and Steve .
There were no Adam and Eve
@@Nexus-jg7ev He is Christians but there is a lot of other religions around the world and even atheist (might of spelled wrong.)
Christians is not the only religions . There is Afro-Caribbean , The Baha' i Faith , Buddhism , Christianity, Confucianism , Daoism ,Hinduism , Islam , Jainism, Judaism,Native American Traditions, Paganism, Shinto, Sikhism , Unitarian Universalism , Zorotrianism , Athesim , non-reglious.
Your right it’s Lot and his daughters not Lot and his sons
And you brought in religion. Argument invalid
and i just realized what you meant at the bottom about the fact that it disgusts you in heterosexuals too in having open marriages lol which i didn't get the first time when i read it lol i must be tired and getting slow lol. i better get to bed too.
I can understand the people who are against same sex marriage are worried that if they approve of same sex couples would mean that they must approve to the marriage between a human and animal, a living being and dead being, incest and pedophiles but my believe is that so long as the age of consent (19 and above) is still going then there shouldn’t be a problem. And so long as the definition consenting living adults is there then all should be fine.
Dont compare too consenting adults too all these others stufg
"There is not difference between parenting". This is a false statement. Of course there is a difference whether a woman raises the child of a man raises tthe child! its not tha sama because women and men are quite different...
No, the meta-analysis by Crowl et al. (2008) investigated differences between children raised by same-sex and heterosexual couples across 19 studies in relation to six developmental outcomes. No differences were found between children raised by heterosexual or same-sex parents in the following four areas: cognitive development, psychological adjustment, gender identity, or sexual partner preference.
I like how you ignored it's a 3 year old comment
@Kiss my axe Not a single person replied to him in two years, he probably forgot about anything he did over here
promotion of immorality is self destructive
@charera Mazuwa We seem to be doing just fine
Which is why we dont promotes the prevention of gay marriage
what are you on about lol
Marriage is between love and love=so can I marry my cat
I'm attracted to her /him=men and women are like blue and red magnetis they need each other and it won't go well
I don't understand how you can equate gay marriage to marrying an animal. Your first statement has a logical fallacy. Your cat is an animal. It cannot consent. You cannot say that your cat consents because it has no way to communicate with you and thus your argument is null. Marriage is between two consenting adults, which means that minors and animals by default cannot enter into a marriage.
Your second argument also makes no sense. Saying that men and women are like magnets means nothing. I could say that I'm the blue magnet and my soulmate is my red magnet, whether they be female or male. Analogies mean nothing unless they're backed by factual evidence, of which you have none. And before you point out that I don't have evidence either for this, I'm merely pointing out the flaws in what you've said, not making my own arguments.
Anyways, I hope you have a good morning/afternoon/evening and thanks for reading this if you do. I think I may have come across as brusque but I'd like to say that wasn't my intention :)
@@carefettes9090 I couldn't have said it better myself! Good job!
Boy, that opinion quickly disintegrated into gay insults....and considering we can't procreate, we do it strictly to piss you off lol
What is hurting people is the constant erosion of moral and ethical measures. The issue is that we have a society which is decaying and trying to foster equality for gays and lesbians. Clearly gays and lesbians are different in terms of their sexual orientation. and because of this orientation procreation is not possible by naturals means in a gay or lesbian couple. ''Therefore we have provisions for families bearing the burden of their own children
Well first off a child is not suppose to be a burden😂 second off this is not a valid argument to say, same sex marriage is wrong?
So that means that straight couples who are either infertile or simply have no intention of procreating, should also be banned from marrying. It's the exact same logic
Yes, this is a crime. This curse destroys the lives of four people. Two men and two women. Such an impure relationship destroys everything.
How does it destroy the lives of four people, when it actually makes them happier. They get the chance to live their lives freely. Even if gay marriage was Illegal these people would still be gay.
For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. They will reject the truth and chase after myths.
2 Timothy 4:3-4
@@StephenKershaw1 dude, the president we have now is being ripped up and down by the media
@@thejurassicchicken1190 For good reason.
It's almost like that's what religions become. People who follow their own desires, and pass it off as god's word.
Says the person believing everything a book of fantasies says
This was 10 yrs ago. Looking back this was a slippery slope.
elaborate
greatest mistake!!!!!! i agree
@@JD43232 how
No slippery slope at all
@@nikoappsmuggred7220 They'll just bring up something completely unrelated or make something up
I am against same sex marriage and homosexuality, even though I have to respect them and not harm them physically or mentally
Why are u against it it's not like people can change who there attracted to
ya fr what’s ur problem with the lgbtq community
@@boopbop8861 I don’t have any problem with them personally, I don’t support the idea AND THATS MY OPINION , it won’t change anything If i do☺️
@@acgraphics1139 You Support them because this thing make sense in your mind , for me it doesn’t, even though i have all respect for every human being
I don’t have to support something I don’t believe in, That doesn’t mean if I met a gay person that I will punish him, I respect everybody
We had section 28 (not anymore) in Uk to stop degeneracy
define degeberacy
Why is same sex attraction degeneracy?
same sex marriage..... sick, but oh well, these are the new times.
It is not sick. it is perfectly fine.
Superderpyfish That’s what society says, but people who actually have the ability to think for themselves see that it’s unnatural and sickening.
@@christianbyers8332 How is it sickening? it isn't hurting anyone.
@@jonsmith2832 it is hurting my eyes
That’s very open minded of you. These are new times
What a sick and perverted society
How is it perverted for two consenting adults to be in love with one another?
Ahg, it's a simple no from me. Homosexual people say they want equality, then why act as if you should be treated with caution? Just go about your business and stop shoving it in people's faces if you ask oppositions to allow you of your right to choose and leave you alone. Leave us alone to disagree as well. Thank you and goodnight.
A large majority of people in the LGBTQ+ community are still assaulted, harassed and killed for being who they are. We don’t want to be treated with caution, I want to be treated equally and I want to be judged on who I am, not my sexuality.
Heterosexual people are just as open about their sexuality as homosexuals.
@@icantthinkofaname5950 The rate of promiscuity is infinitely higher among homosexuals than heterosexuals. It's up to the individual whether there's anything wrong with that, but don't pretend they are the same.
@@MNAHN-T.GOF-NN source ?
Not hearing a good argument against legalising same sex marriage
Ephesians 4:29
Wow does she keep saying that here sexual couples accidentally procreate? How the hell does she know?
nydelis Ortiz Well hun they created abortions for a reason. Just think about that for a while.
Orphanages, abortions, plan b,...
Let me use a simpler paradigm.. I have no issues with anyone's sexual orientation if consensual. I also believe that the Gov as no business in the anyone's bedroom. However I do believe that Federal help for families who procreate should be for hetero families only
What about gay families who adopt? And what about cis/straight families who don't have kids?