Vegeta: You! Namekian! Too strong! Explain now! Trunks: He fused with Kami to become stronger Vegeta: the f*ck's a Kami!? Krillin: Basically God Vegeta: But I'm still here!? Trunks: Do you believe your own hype THAT much? Vegeta: I AM THE HYPE!!!!
The reason why they were edited out is because the editor Kaiser absolutely hates them. They were added to the anime as filler characters and they completely wreck the comedy that Mr. Satan provides as an observer to the tournament. Kaiser stated he preferred painstakingly editing those characters out rather than write any dialogue for them, so that’s what he did.
Goku saved the world twice very publicly as a teenager, got married, had a baby, and the entire world (except people who knew him personally) forgot he ever existed.
I vaguely remember that him defeating King Piccolo was something known by the King of the World, But the world at large just didn't knew that some mysterious kid defeated him. Followed by Goku defeating Piccolo Jr. at the Tournament, but his actual defeat was after the entire arena was destroyed, likely along with any and all television cameras. so the whole threat to the world was actually a complete unknown.
@robertmauck4975 yeah. Honestly, while it's easy to just hand wave saying that people in anime worlds tend to forget and move on way too fast and easy.. it's like that in real life to. While there will be small numbers of people who remember some specific event happening, the world really does just move on and people forget stuff all the time. Or even deny it ever happened in the first place. Kind of like Cell's whole Cell games announcement and Mr Satan and his PR team basically running revisionist history to practically overwrite everyone's recollection of the event.
Little fact thats hard to realize when krillin talked about how cell "tambourined him" it was a refrence to the first time he died to one of demon king piccolo's minions, tambourine. Krillins neck was broken when he first died.
darn you beat me to that comment. It is an interesting way to phrase it because people who don't know the reference could still visualize what being "tambourined" could mean.
33:36 Basically most of the characters in Dragon Ball develop/invent their own techniques over the course of the series. However, most (if not all) of Goku's most well known moves were either taught to him or were appropriated from other characters.
@@Riku_Light Which I feel like just further cements the fact that Goku only steals techniques. Since I'm pretty sure the Dragon Punch isn't even canon. Meaning it took non-canon material for him to finally come up with his own move.
True, but we should also not forget that Goku is also known for improving the said techniques, implementing variety in applications. One can see an example in the next episode BTW.
Mr. Satan is actually remarkably strong for an earthling. I think he canonically *THE* strongest non-ki using earthling at this point in the series. Granted, his strength is nothing even compared to Yamcha, but he's still no pushover
I guess it depends on how we define non ki using as there are multiple humans that are stronger and bullet proof but never fly or use special abilities.
@@mayoroicjre Yamcha can also use ki blasts and is significantly faster than Satan. Hercule is certainly a strong human, but Yamcha is leagues above him
Goku and friends aren't really secret, it's just most people don't know they exist. The referee for the World Martial Arts Tournament absolutely knows about them since he's known Goku since Dragonball. Also the president of the world knows too, along with villains from og dragonball
@@Epsilvonic Or the World Martial Arts Tournament isn't actually that popular and most people just don't care. The only reason they know Mr. Satan is because he's so charismatic and actively tries to be famous. I think the bigger plot hole is the when the news guy says "not even the Saiyan attack some years ago.." or something like that, seems to imply that everyone knows not only about them but also what a Saiyan is.
@@999maza The retcon for it is that Mister Satan convinced the world that all of those things were just "tricks"to fool people into thinking they were supernatural events or powers for show. So the Saiyan explosion was the result of them using some kind of nuclear device, rather than a person mystical energy powers.
@@999maza In canon there are people in the Buu saga wearing shirts that say "Super Sayian" on them, so they definitely know they exist...just they think Mr Satan is stronger than even that.
Also because with the exception of the Kaio-ken, Spirit Bomb and (in canon not abridged) Instant Transmission, every move in his arsenal up to Z essentially went down like this: "Hey that's a cool move he just did. Let me try it." *One attempt later "Yay I did it, now I'm using it"
27:55 ... Cell was singing a line from Barenaked Ladies "One Week"... Also, in the original animation, Cell really did look that bored in that exchange against Goku.
2:52 You missed Gohan saying the warning while the parents bedromm bed was hitting the wall behind ... because MR.Perfect Cell said 1 week and Chichi is using it !
@@Delta1389 It's not unreasonable to ask that episode 60 is all done at once, if it wasn't meant to be one episode it would've been called episode 60,61 and 62
The bugs at the end of the last episodes are the bugs that appeared in the early episodes of DBZ when vegeta and nappa were heading to earth and they made a pitstop on that planet.
@@ChicagoReacts yeah nappa and vegeta toyed with them by pretending to be prisoners, fighting their big monster in a pit and then vegeta just blowing up the planet with 2 fingers.
6:01 Tambourine was the guy who one-shot killed Krillin the first time back in the OG DB. 11:41 No, people don't know. Before Z, when tournaments were a common thing, you'd see some stuff like this (the announcer guy from those knows the crew), but that's about it. Vegeta and Nappa showed up in one town, but left no witnesses. Bulma is likely well-known and by extenstion Vegeta, but he doesn't fly around all the time and rest is just staying low. So no, the general public doesn't know anything, given how we usually take our fights to some plains or rocky wastelands.
Another important thing to note is that the World Martial Arts Championship that Mr. Satan won was the first in history (in universe) to be televised. So while all of the people who saw the OG crew do all the crazy shit in the original series do know that shit exists, they are a very miniscule minority by comparison. For the most part, nobody really knows about this stuff, considering it just myths and fantasy.
And even things like them summoning Shen Long in public they made the government say it was just special effect for a film being recorded at Capsule Corp
The funny part about hercule is the fact that outside of Ki user humans like krillin and tien, Hercule is ACTUALLY the strongest un-augmented human. He did win the tournament legitimately. That means he’s technically in the top 20 or so of the strongest beings on the planet. Even yamcha or chiaotzu could easily defeat him in a millisecond but to any normal human he’s the best
Tien was the champion in the 2nd world martial arts tournament that have been shown in dragon ball where he beat goku by less than a second by ring out, in the one after goku beat tien.
Do not do the shortz, it will spoil what happens in episode 60. Do the kais after the epilogue, then the shortz, then dbza the buu bits. Then you will be done with dbza
Youre totally right about Mr. Satan being like Fudge in AVPM 😂 “I still don’t believe you’re back” “Believe this. AVADA KEDAVRA” “AH! A heart attack, surely” *dies*
Mr Satan is being used for comedic relief but he’s REALLY strong. Cell hit Satan almost as hard as he hit Krillin when he first turned Perfect and Satan survived it without needing a Senzu bean and just had a nosebleed
Sad fact: The reason Cell is nice to Yamcha is because Cell came from the Universe where Yamcha offed himself after finding out Bulma is pregnant with Vegeta's child (Trunks). So you'll notice Cell being more... welcoming towards Yamcha.
Cell just appreciates people that do what they can while not trying to be an ass basically. Kinda funny that DBZFighters kind of takes this partially with Frieza geniunely being intrigued by Yamcha to a very funny level.@somedudewatchintv5297
The "Chickety China the Chinese Chicken" thing is a line from "One Week" by Bare Naked Ladies. No idea why he sang that other than it matcing the animation.
@Chicago Reacts "Chickity China the Chinese chicken..." was not just a jingle. It is a line from Barenaked Ladies' song "One Week." It came out in 1998. It's the second verse of the song after the chorus. Chickity China, the Chinese chicken You have a drumstick and your brain stops tickin' Watching X-Files with no lights on We're dans la maison I hope the Smoking Man's in this one Like Harrison Ford, I'm getting frantic Like Sting, I'm tantric Like Snickers, guaranteed to satisfy Like Kurosawa, I make mad films, 'kay, I don't make films But if I did they'd have a Samurai Gonna get a set of better clubs Gonna find the kind with tiny nubs Just so my irons aren't always flying off the back-swing Gotta get in tune with Sailor Moon 'Cause that cartoon has got the boom anime babes That make me think the wrong thing
"Vegeta is really gonna let him go?" At this point it's a game. If Vegeta gives in, Tien wins... and he knows that. Trunks with long hair again was due to him going into the time chamber a second time. TFS just cut that part out. For the techniques, they're not really considering them "stolen," but basically Cell knows these techniques due to his genetic makeup. From Goku's perspective, he's claiming Cell won't get anywhere using the same moves Goku's encountered before. For Goku, even as a child, he's always had a habit of copying techniques done by others - especially from Tenshinhan. It was a slight reference to the Monkey King in Journey to the West being able to mimic others. Just be happy you have all the episodes like this. Between episode 59 and part one of episode 60, it took an entire YEAR. TFS really wanted to make sure everything came out perfect.
@@ChicagoReacts also! When you commented playing a d&d character with a Goku-ish persona... definitely do it! One of my favorite characters that I play as is Nyota. There are definite "too optimistic" similarities between her and TFS' Goku and she is hella fun.
The stolen techniques joke is refrencing a common observation, that Goku doesn’t have a singular move that he doesn’t specifically learn from someone else or share with another character. All of his big moves are used by other characters.
Because Jimmy Firecrack corn and he don't give a fuck! Amazes me that this is the same person who does the voice of the announcer in the Smash Brother's game.
I'm still sad tfs didn't do a full version of "We are Number One" sung by Taka/Cell for later release. The instrumental version was such a perfect choice for the multi-form fight, and vocals would have been distracting, but any excuse for Taka or Lani to sing is appreciated.
Also, I will say for the record: My personal suggestion is to do 59 and 60 part 1 together, then do parts 2 and 3 in another video. Without spoiling anything, part 1 ends on a GREAT moment and cliffhanger, and I'd argue 59 and 60 pt 1 flow into each other more than 60 pt 1 does with the rest of "60" as a result. Part 2 has a cliffhanger as well, but it leads more naturally directly into part 3. All 3 parts are connected, yes, but even more than episode 10 or 30, they are basically their own complete episodes imho.
The Android 16 video from the previous episode is fanmade, but it's honestly more canon than what the original did/didn't show. Cuz Gero was from Red Ribbon, and Goku beat them.
11:50 Its implied in the manga that they use the dragonballs to sometimes wipe the memory of people who died on earth. Other than the Saiyan Saga where Napa terrorized Earth, I believe Mr. Satan himself took credit for most of the reasons why the world had been so peaceful.
It's often kinda glossed over, but Mr Satan often mentions his work on he movie Skygina 2: The Return of Dr Brain-Man, implying the existence of Skygina. The original Skygina was the movie pitch Krillin gave to Nappa to explain the Dead Zone movie, with the Dead Zone rift that Garlic Jr opens in the movie being the titular "skygina". Skygina 2 is The World's Strongest movie.
THE hair, THE makeup, THE fit 💯😍 6:12 joke: Krillin had a bad time with a character called Tambourine in Dragon Ball, I'm not telling you more because I would totes watch you react to OG DB
33:45 so he straight up did steal the Kamehame wave from master roshi before he was even his student. And he also stole the solar flare from tien. He wasn’t taught either of those techniques. He was taught the Kaioken and the spirit bomb but he did claim they were his so that would be stealing as well I think
Ironically enough what most people don't realize was that after the fight between Piccolo and Goku they decided to disban the world Martial arts tournament and that was technically 5 years before the main storyline of dragon Ball z, and another 6. But the fact that the martial arts schools are the only ones that actually know anything about the martial arts powers and depending on who you went to school with either the crane school or the turtle School it pretty much would not have been a serious factor. Also the fact that everybody is hating on Vegeta when it was actually Napa who killed everyone
I have a small nitpick about episode 58. When they're talking about Goku's "stolen technics" they're forgetting that everything except the Solar Flare was taught to Goku.
@@Axetwin was that the case? Sorry, haven't watched DB in like 15 years. I thought it had something to do with getting the dragon ball from Ox Kings castle and he just had to blast something
If a regular person took up a minute to fight Cell, (stepping into the ring, banter, declared dead, cleaning the ring.) It would only take 525,600 people to extend the Cell Games to 1 year. Cell did say he would accept all comers. (Just like Vegeta's mom.) I think we could extend that indefinitely.
I don't think Goku and Friends are really a "secret", but they usually fight in the middle of wastelands, and anyone who might see them will probably get blown up in the process.
Yes, they just just try to stay away from public because the kind of battles they do can level a city in seconds and they don't want people getting hurt.
Just so you know. When Krillin says cell basically Tambourined him he’s referring to OG Dragonball, where Tambourine, Piccolo’s older brother, killed krillin extremely easily when Krillin and Goku were children. Goku went in a rage and killed King Piccolo(piccolo’s dad) By head butting him through the chest. And as he was dying He gave birth to Piccolo.
33:47 True, Goku just learned other people's techniques. The point of this scene is to draw attention to the fact that Goku has no original techniques.
The thing is people know about goku and king piccolo but people just plan forgot about goku when he didn't fight in the next world martial arts tournament, so when mr satan won it he inherited all the hype. The moon got blown up in the second tournament goku was in and everyone saw it happen. In the real version the king recognized him.
In dbz people knew about the flying because there where tournaments where goku was little when he fought king piccolo and piccolo jr (thats the piccolo you know from this) and they where flying there. Funny thing is. Everybody cannonly forgets about the superpowers every time because they only do the tournaments for fun every so years because the tournaments became boring and is just between the people from the gang. But they all know each other from the tournaments. Except from the androids the sayens and the sayen children.
19:22 he is talking to Cell. Because Mr. Satan used Vegeta's line from several episodes ago. ("Do you really believe your own hype that much?" "I AM THE HYPE!!!!")
27:41 not a jingle. It's a Barenaked Ladies song, "One Week" "Chickety China, the Chinese chicken, you have a drumstick and your brain starts tickin'."
A few things to clarify. 1. Vegeta wanted Cell to kill Mr. Satan cause he stole his line. Trunks asked Vegeta earlier if he really believed his own hype that much, and Vegeta responded, "I am the hype." 2. Tien wasn't being snooty when commenting on Cell using the multi-form technique, he was basically saying that neither Goku or Cell were taking the fight seriously and are just messing around because by creating four clones with that technique you're cutting your power down to 25 percent per clone, which means most of the Z-fighters could defeat one of the clones in a one-on-one fight fairly easily, so Cell is only using it for fun and Goku doesn't destroy them immediately so he can have fun too. 3. The Goku stealing techniques thing is more in response to Goku saying, "You'll never beat me with stolen techniques." Almost all of Goku's moves are ones he learned from others so Goku is being pretty hypocritical by looking down on Cell for using "stolen" techniques.
Tien and Vegeta have a vocal rivalry and as long as Vegeta doesn't kill him, Tien can still lose to him verbally. As was stated by him previously: "At this point it's a game, and if he gives in, I win. And he knows that" - Tien talking about Vegeta after antagonizing him
Why is it called stealing techniques? Because Goku wasn't actively taught them. He learned Kamehameha, Solar Flare and Destructo Disc just from witnessing them, which admittedly is a testament to his sheer talent, but he didn't look to learn directly FROM their original users. He technically "reverse-engineered" them. Kaioken wasn't stolen but here he was almost gonna give himself sole credit for learning it.
The techniques Goku was legitimately taught aren't stolen obviously, but Goku absolutely DOES steal techniques. The prime example being his signature move, the Kamehameha. Stealing or being taught, the point they're making is that Goku is like a swiss army knife of the greatest techniques of others. Vegeta by comparison is almost the polar opposite. He prides himself on being self-taught and developing all his own special moves. Especially at this point in the story, anyway.
I always took it as Hercule can’t use Ki to fly or shoot blasts so he tries to downplay their skills so people don’t realize how incredibly he (the people’s champion) is underpowered. If he can’t reassure people that he has the power to save them after telling them that he is the strongest in the world then it’s all over.
In the original show those people that Cell blew up who weren’t in the manga were added in with Satan on the sidelines were cut back to constantly and were extremely annoying. So Team Four Star removed them completely from the show and edited them out of almost every shot they were originally in except one the was missed. So the running joke is that their ghosts haunted the battlefield
Chickity China, the Chinese chicken You have a drumstick and your brain stops tickin' Watchin' X-Files with no lights on, we're dans la maison I hope the smoking man's in this one
"Suddenly real happy I don't go to public school" The Buu saga begins with Gohan going to public school. "The Solar Flare?" "That's mine, thanks." While Tien invented the Solar Flare in Dragonball, he never actually uses it in Dragonball Z, only Goku, Krillin and Cell do
29:20 Goku had some a reputation when he was younger, but he looks different and people just kind of forgot about Goku. Not SUPER famous, but still, at meast people in the martial arts tournament knew him.
Fun fact about Goku, he has an ability called Adaptive Learning. Basically he can see a technique once and perfectly copy it. He did it with the Kamehameha, the Solar Flair, Multi-Form and most of his other techniques. Majin Buu also has the same ability
My take on it is, ki-training is nearly a forgotten art (and why wouldn't it be? It's a pain in the butt to learn and only a few people get really good at it), so most people's understanding of martial arts is that it's like how things are in the "real" world. I'm sympathetic to Mr Satan making flimsy excuses for everything he sees too. His entire life's experience is that 1) martial arts is all about punches and kicks, and 2) he's seen enough special effects to know that you can fake a lot of things. So he's approaching this from his understanding of how the world works. Honestly, I've seen a lot of people be more obstinate about matters that are far easier to accept.
Vegeta let's Tien crack at him because in a earlier episode Krillin acknowledge the same thing and Tien stated "It's a game at this point. If he gives in, I win. And he knows that" basically, if he attacks Tien, Vegeta confirmed to be too sensitive.
Mr Satan clearly has the Doubting Tomas flaw from the Tabletop RPG Savage Worlds XD. If I remember rightly most of the techniques Goku uses were not actually taught to him but he has an innate talent for understanding and figuring out how techniques are done by just seeing them - He learned the Kamehama Wave after seeing Master Roshi do it once when he first met him which shocked Roshi as he states it took him nearly a 100 years to create and master it.
Yeah, Tien has the upper hands in his verbal fights with Vegeta. Not only does he have the better more stinging one-liners and comebacks 'How many Goku's have you beaten?' (because it's true), but after Trunks returned to his timeline he said: "It's a game. If he kills me, he looses. And he knows that." So yes, Tien absolutely gets away with it.
Each character is presented with their own techniques they developed, but since we’ve followed Goku from the start who essentially starts with nothing we only see him use techniques others have used before. In the original show he does comment about Cells “stolen techniques”, but this is TFS making a little jab about how none of Gokus moves were actually created by him either. Goku DOES find creative uses of some techniques, such as using a Kamehameha with his feet to propel him forward, but doesn’t use anything that wasn’t taught to him by someone else.
33:42 Its more like every other character have their own different arsenal and Goku just uses other people's techniques. He does use these techniques with more creativity, but its still other people's techniques. (He never claims its his though) It all plays on him being a Monkey Boy. (Before the whole saiyan arc thing, specially when he was a kid, he used to have a monkey tail). And well, his deal sorta is "monkey see, monkey do". Without counting variations of existing techniques, Goku only has one original technique to his name, and its not even canon, as its in one of the movies (that TFS didnt get to adapt, sadly). Also, another layer to the joke is like, sometimes they claim certain techniques are like .. like they say it belongs to someone even though everyone can do it by just watching it. Or, for example, with Vegeta, they claim Vegeta's move its when he starts raining down energy balls on his oponent, like its some kind of practiced technique and not just Vegeta spamming energy balls that everyone can do, and doing it fast because he is desperate. And, if you want to go deeper, a lot of those attacks are just the same beam with a different name, lol
The only techniques Goku was "taught" are the kaioken, the spirit bomb and the instant transmission (tho in the dbza cannon he technically just was able to do it after he ate sick aliens) The Kamehameha he literally saw being done once and he just did it his thing, same as the solar flare except I think he saw it being done a couple of times, the rest of the fighters actually developed at least one of their attacks
To be fair, Chichi basically forced Goku to marry her by holding him accountable for a promise he actually didn't make, she can't complain. (and I'm not saying that just because Goku didn't know what mariage was back then, if you go back to the moment he allegedly "promised" to marrry her, you'll see he actually didn't promise anything)
" I am the hype" was a phrase that Vegeta said in an episode
Vegeta: You! Namekian! Too strong! Explain now!
Trunks: He fused with Kami to become stronger
Vegeta: the f*ck's a Kami!?
Krillin: Basically God
Vegeta: But I'm still here!?
Trunks: Do you believe your own hype THAT much?
Vegeta: I AM THE HYPE!!!!
The best part about those 3 in the helicopter was they didn't actually die in the main show. Team 4 Star edited them out
I thought that might be the case
Yeah and if you watch the creators commentary editing them out of other shots was a huge pain though in fairness I think he did a good job.
The reason why they were edited out is because the editor Kaiser absolutely hates them. They were added to the anime as filler characters and they completely wreck the comedy that Mr. Satan provides as an observer to the tournament. Kaiser stated he preferred painstakingly editing those characters out rather than write any dialogue for them, so that’s what he did.
@@Arxane Yeah editing them out was the right call. they take up WAY too much screen-time from start to finish, and add nothing to the plot.
The funny thing is, he actually missed removing them in a single scene! Check 27:54 to see the three additional characters.
Goku saved the world twice very publicly as a teenager, got married, had a baby, and the entire world (except people who knew him personally) forgot he ever existed.
I vaguely remember that him defeating King Piccolo was something known by the King of the World, But the world at large just didn't knew that some mysterious kid defeated him.
Followed by Goku defeating Piccolo Jr. at the Tournament, but his actual defeat was after the entire arena was destroyed, likely along with any and all television cameras. so the whole threat to the world was actually a complete unknown.
@DragonHeart53 plus, everyone watching at the arena, except for his friends, ran away screaming.
@robertmauck4975 yeah. Honestly, while it's easy to just hand wave saying that people in anime worlds tend to forget and move on way too fast and easy.. it's like that in real life to.
While there will be small numbers of people who remember some specific event happening, the world really does just move on and people forget stuff all the time. Or even deny it ever happened in the first place.
Kind of like Cell's whole Cell games announcement and Mr Satan and his PR team basically running revisionist history to practically overwrite everyone's recollection of the event.
I partially assume the announcer is being broadcast over TV or radio and that he doesn't just have a compulsion that places him in danger.
And participated in multiple world tournaments. As a child. Fighting adults. And kicking their asses.
Little fact thats hard to realize when krillin talked about how cell "tambourined him" it was a refrence to the first time he died to one of demon king piccolo's minions, tambourine. Krillins neck was broken when he first died.
darn you beat me to that comment. It is an interesting way to phrase it because people who don't know the reference could still visualize what being "tambourined" could mean.
Tambourine caved in Krillin's frontal lobe.
Tambourine kicks Krillin once, square in the forehead.
Honestly just thought it was a reference to him getting played like a tambourine. You know basucally getting hit over and over lol
33:36 Basically most of the characters in Dragon Ball develop/invent their own techniques over the course of the series. However, most (if not all) of Goku's most well known moves were either taught to him or were appropriated from other characters.
While it’s never shown in DBZA, there is one technique he actually did invent; The Dragon Punch.
@@Riku_Light Which I feel like just further cements the fact that Goku only steals techniques. Since I'm pretty sure the Dragon Punch isn't even canon. Meaning it took non-canon material for him to finally come up with his own move.
@@Riku_Light That's not even part of the show. Just the non canon movies.
True, but we should also not forget that Goku is also known for improving the said techniques, implementing variety in applications. One can see an example in the next episode BTW.
Mr. Satan is actually remarkably strong for an earthling. I think he canonically *THE* strongest non-ki using earthling at this point in the series. Granted, his strength is nothing even compared to Yamcha, but he's still no pushover
I guess it depends on how we define non ki using as there are multiple humans that are stronger and bullet proof but never fly or use special abilities.
He survived a hit from P. Cell. I'd say he deserves the title of the sturdiest human without ki. Maybe not strongest. @@procow2274
Well, if you take away Yamcha's ability to fly, him and Satan are kinda on par with each other
@@mayoroicjre Yamcha can also use ki blasts and is significantly faster than Satan. Hercule is certainly a strong human, but Yamcha is leagues above him
Basically Mr Satan (or hercule to those who know him from other sources) is the strongest kitten in a world full of lions and tigers
I love that Mr Perfect Cell is genuinely nice to Yamcha 😂
"Chickity China the Chinese Chicken" are lyrics from the song One Week by Barenaked Ladies
The best advice is that episode 60 is a three parter and the finale. It’s best to save that for an all in one go
Don’t forget to wait one calendar year between episodes 59 and 60 to get the full experience.
@@Ansible1000 don’t remind me
Well, if she does em in 2s, she could do 60 pt 1+2 then pt3 and epilogue.
Goku and friends aren't really secret, it's just most people don't know they exist. The referee for the World Martial Arts Tournament absolutely knows about them since he's known Goku since Dragonball. Also the president of the world knows too, along with villains from og dragonball
Yeah, it’s less of a “they’ve kept their secret identities even after Piccolo flattened an arena in front of thousands” and more everyone is an idiot
@@Epsilvonic Or the World Martial Arts Tournament isn't actually that popular and most people just don't care. The only reason they know Mr. Satan is because he's so charismatic and actively tries to be famous. I think the bigger plot hole is the when the news guy says "not even the Saiyan attack some years ago.." or something like that, seems to imply that everyone knows not only about them but also what a Saiyan is.
@@999maza An entire island city got flattened by Piccolo. That isn’t tournament news, that’s world news.
@@999maza The retcon for it is that Mister Satan convinced the world that all of those things were just "tricks"to fool people into thinking they were supernatural events or powers for show. So the Saiyan explosion was the result of them using some kind of nuclear device, rather than a person mystical energy powers.
@@999maza In canon there are people in the Buu saga wearing shirts that say "Super Sayian" on them, so they definitely know they exist...just they think Mr Satan is stronger than even that.
24:24 to quote Tien: "at this point, its a game. If [Vegeta] gives in, i win. And he knows that."
He says stolen techniques because most of the abilities he uses aren't originally his own
There is only 1 canon technique created by Goku : "Monkey fighting style" in OG Dragon ball. In non-canon there is Dragon Fist (DBZ movies & GT).
It is also because he was not taught most of these. He just saw them and learned them without the permission of the creators.
Also because with the exception of the Kaio-ken, Spirit Bomb and (in canon not abridged) Instant Transmission, every move in his arsenal up to Z essentially went down like this: "Hey that's a cool move he just did. Let me try it." *One attempt later "Yay I did it, now I'm using it"
27:55 ... Cell was singing a line from Barenaked Ladies "One Week"... Also, in the original animation, Cell really did look that bored in that exchange against Goku.
When vegeta said *KILL HIM* He was refering to satan cause he took vegetas line of I AM THE HYPE so he wanted cell to kill satan 😂😂
The chinese chicken bit is from the song One Week by Barenaked Ladies
2:52 You missed Gohan saying the warning while the parents bedromm bed was hitting the wall behind ... because MR.Perfect Cell said 1 week and Chichi is using it !
Please. PLEASE, don't split up episode 60 it works so much better if you do those 3 together so it doesn't ruin the flow 👍
Pf.. you wish. I wish! But you wish...
Or you could have to wait a year for the real experience
@@Delta1389 It's not unreasonable to ask that episode 60 is all done at once, if it wasn't meant to be one episode it would've been called episode 60,61 and 62
@@ragnar97 I was referring to the one year gap in between episodes when they originally came out.
The bugs at the end of the last episodes are the bugs that appeared in the early episodes of DBZ when vegeta and nappa were heading to earth and they made a pitstop on that planet.
Thanks! I remembered their look, but not exactly what happened to them.
@@ChicagoReacts yeah nappa and vegeta toyed with them by pretending to be prisoners, fighting their big monster in a pit and then vegeta just blowing up the planet with 2 fingers.
6:01 Tambourine was the guy who one-shot killed Krillin the first time back in the OG DB.
11:41 No, people don't know. Before Z, when tournaments were a common thing, you'd see some stuff like this (the announcer guy from those knows the crew), but that's about it. Vegeta and Nappa showed up in one town, but left no witnesses. Bulma is likely well-known and by extenstion Vegeta, but he doesn't fly around all the time and rest is just staying low. So no, the general public doesn't know anything, given how we usually take our fights to some plains or rocky wastelands.
iirc Tambourine broke Krillin's neck. So getting "Tambourined" means getting your neck broken.
Another important thing to note is that the World Martial Arts Championship that Mr. Satan won was the first in history (in universe) to be televised. So while all of the people who saw the OG crew do all the crazy shit in the original series do know that shit exists, they are a very miniscule minority by comparison. For the most part, nobody really knows about this stuff, considering it just myths and fantasy.
And even things like them summoning Shen Long in public they made the government say it was just special effect for a film being recorded at Capsule Corp
The funny part about hercule is the fact that outside of Ki user humans like krillin and tien, Hercule is ACTUALLY the strongest un-augmented human. He did win the tournament legitimately. That means he’s technically in the top 20 or so of the strongest beings on the planet. Even yamcha or chiaotzu could easily defeat him in a millisecond but to any normal human he’s the best
Tien was the champion in the 2nd world martial arts tournament that have been shown in dragon ball where he beat goku by less than a second by ring out, in the one after goku beat tien.
Do not do the shortz, it will spoil what happens in episode 60. Do the kais after the epilogue, then the shortz, then dbza the buu bits. Then you will be done with dbza
Also HFIL, which could be after the main series/zshorts or Buu Bits, not much will change regardless.
Youre totally right about Mr. Satan being like Fudge in AVPM 😂
“I still don’t believe you’re back”
“Believe this. AVADA KEDAVRA”
“AH! A heart attack, surely” *dies*
Mr Satan is being used for comedic relief but he’s REALLY strong. Cell hit Satan almost as hard as he hit Krillin when he first turned Perfect and Satan survived it without needing a Senzu bean and just had a nosebleed
I love the Christmas Surprise idea!
The jingle is the song "one week" by the bare naked ladies. I recommend looking it up it's a cracking tune 😂
"Chickity China the Chinese Chicken," is the first line of lyrics in the Barenaked Ladies' song, One Week
Sad fact: The reason Cell is nice to Yamcha is because Cell came from the Universe where Yamcha offed himself after finding out Bulma is pregnant with Vegeta's child (Trunks). So you'll notice Cell being more... welcoming towards Yamcha.
I think Kaiser said during the creator commentary. Cell doesn't go after Yamcha more or less because he knows his place and doesn't try to act big.
Cell just appreciates people that do what they can while not trying to be an ass basically.
Kinda funny that DBZFighters kind of takes this partially with Frieza geniunely being intrigued by Yamcha to a very funny level.@somedudewatchintv5297
The "Chickety China the Chinese Chicken" thing is a line from "One Week" by Bare Naked Ladies.
No idea why he sang that other than it matcing the animation.
@Chicago Reacts "Chickity China the Chinese chicken..." was not just a jingle. It is a line from Barenaked Ladies' song "One Week." It came out in 1998. It's the second verse of the song after the chorus.
Chickity China, the Chinese chicken
You have a drumstick and your brain stops tickin'
Watching X-Files with no lights on
We're dans la maison
I hope the Smoking Man's in this one
Like Harrison Ford, I'm getting frantic
Like Sting, I'm tantric
Like Snickers, guaranteed to satisfy
Like Kurosawa, I make mad films, 'kay, I don't make films
But if I did they'd have a Samurai
Gonna get a set of better clubs
Gonna find the kind with tiny nubs
Just so my irons aren't always flying off the back-swing
Gotta get in tune with Sailor Moon
'Cause that cartoon has got the boom anime babes
That make me think the wrong thing
"Vegeta is really gonna let him go?"
At this point it's a game. If Vegeta gives in, Tien wins... and he knows that.
Trunks with long hair again was due to him going into the time chamber a second time. TFS just cut that part out.
For the techniques, they're not really considering them "stolen," but basically Cell knows these techniques due to his genetic makeup. From Goku's perspective, he's claiming Cell won't get anywhere using the same moves Goku's encountered before.
For Goku, even as a child, he's always had a habit of copying techniques done by others - especially from Tenshinhan. It was a slight reference to the Monkey King in Journey to the West being able to mimic others.
Just be happy you have all the episodes like this. Between episode 59 and part one of episode 60, it took an entire YEAR. TFS really wanted to make sure everything came out perfect.
Oof. I am so glad I don't have to wait
@@ChicagoReacts also! When you commented playing a d&d character with a Goku-ish persona... definitely do it!
One of my favorite characters that I play as is Nyota. There are definite "too optimistic" similarities between her and TFS' Goku and she is hella fun.
“Chickity china the Chinese chicken” is from One Week by the Bare Naked Ladies
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Its not a jingle, its the song "One Week" by the band Bare Naked Ladies
Bit of a classic these days 😂
The stolen techniques joke is refrencing a common observation, that Goku doesn’t have a singular move that he doesn’t specifically learn from someone else or share with another character. All of his big moves are used by other characters.
You HAVE to do the three partner as a single watch.
This is the first time I see Members feature being used as a 5 months "early access" to a video lol
19:00 vegeta told cell to kill mr satan because he saw himself in satan when he said "I AM THE HYPE" which vegeta did a few episodes ago
Because Jimmy Firecrack corn and he don't give a fuck!
Amazes me that this is the same person who does the voice of the announcer in the Smash Brother's game.
I'm still sad tfs didn't do a full version of "We are Number One" sung by Taka/Cell for later release. The instrumental version was such a perfect choice for the multi-form fight, and vocals would have been distracting, but any excuse for Taka or Lani to sing is appreciated.
Also, I will say for the record: My personal suggestion is to do 59 and 60 part 1 together, then do parts 2 and 3 in another video. Without spoiling anything, part 1 ends on a GREAT moment and cliffhanger, and I'd argue 59 and 60 pt 1 flow into each other more than 60 pt 1 does with the rest of "60" as a result. Part 2 has a cliffhanger as well, but it leads more naturally directly into part 3.
All 3 parts are connected, yes, but even more than episode 10 or 30, they are basically their own complete episodes imho.
Chickity China The Chinese Chicken is a reference to the song One Week by the Barenaked Ladies
Ayyy, I got a shout-out!
The Android 16 video from the previous episode is fanmade, but it's honestly more canon than what the original did/didn't show. Cuz Gero was from Red Ribbon, and Goku beat them.
And with this you and my other favorite reaction channel, Mattables, are at the same point.
11:50 Its implied in the manga that they use the dragonballs to sometimes wipe the memory of people who died on earth. Other than the Saiyan Saga where Napa terrorized Earth, I believe Mr. Satan himself took credit for most of the reasons why the world had been so peaceful.
Cell was made from other people's cells. That's why he knows their techniques.
It's often kinda glossed over, but Mr Satan often mentions his work on he movie Skygina 2: The Return of Dr Brain-Man, implying the existence of Skygina. The original Skygina was the movie pitch Krillin gave to Nappa to explain the Dead Zone movie, with the Dead Zone rift that Garlic Jr opens in the movie being the titular "skygina". Skygina 2 is The World's Strongest movie.
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6:12 joke: Krillin had a bad time with a character called Tambourine in Dragon Ball, I'm not telling you more because I would totes watch you react to OG DB
One of the best ongoing jokes of the cell games is that cell is the only one who is nice to Yamcha
Yes, Goku's logic is that, because both won tournaments, they're on the same level, which is why he said Satan's stronger than Krillin xD
When they say "stolen techniques," they mean that Goku doesn't make any original moves. He just mimics everyone else.
YOU DON'T KNOW CHIKETY CHINA THE CHINESE CHICKEN?!
AVPM referenced in a TFS reaction!!! My worlds are colliding and I LOVE IT!
33:45 so he straight up did steal the Kamehame wave from master roshi before he was even his student. And he also stole the solar flare from tien. He wasn’t taught either of those techniques. He was taught the Kaioken and the spirit bomb but he did claim they were his so that would be stealing as well I think
Ironically enough what most people don't realize was that after the fight between Piccolo and Goku they decided to disban the world Martial arts tournament and that was technically 5 years before the main storyline of dragon Ball z, and another 6. But the fact that the martial arts schools are the only ones that actually know anything about the martial arts powers and depending on who you went to school with either the crane school or the turtle School it pretty much would not have been a serious factor. Also the fact that everybody is hating on Vegeta when it was actually Napa who killed everyone
Oh my god.... after I don't know how many rewatches.... It JUST hit me that 3 of the Cells said Makankosappo and one said Special Beam Cannon.
I can’t wait to see Skygina 2 when it releases.
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This guy's intense!
I have a small nitpick about episode 58. When they're talking about Goku's "stolen technics" they're forgetting that everything except the Solar Flare was taught to Goku.
Kamehameha wasn't exactly taught to him. He saw Roshi do it and wanted to try it as well and copied it perfectly
@@iampotsataja On the other hand though, Roshi intended to teach it to Goku, he just didn't expect Goku to pick up after only 1 demonstration.
@@Axetwin was that the case? Sorry, haven't watched DB in like 15 years. I thought it had something to do with getting the dragon ball from Ox Kings castle and he just had to blast something
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@@iampotsataja Yes, that was before him coming to the island to train.
If a regular person took up a minute to fight Cell, (stepping into the ring, banter, declared dead, cleaning the ring.) It would only take 525,600 people to extend the Cell Games to 1 year. Cell did say he would accept all comers. (Just like Vegeta's mom.)
I think we could extend that indefinitely.
I don't think Goku and Friends are really a "secret", but they usually fight in the middle of wastelands, and anyone who might see them will probably get blown up in the process.
Yes, they just just try to stay away from public because the kind of battles they do can level a city in seconds and they don't want people getting hurt.
Just so you know. When Krillin says cell basically Tambourined him he’s referring to OG Dragonball, where Tambourine, Piccolo’s older brother, killed krillin extremely easily when Krillin and Goku were children. Goku went in a rage and killed King Piccolo(piccolo’s dad) By head butting him through the chest. And as he was dying He gave birth to Piccolo.
33:47 True, Goku just learned other people's techniques. The point of this scene is to draw attention to the fact that Goku has no original techniques.
From this episode on 16 really makes his mark on the show. He was always a great character but here is where he really hits his peak.
The joke with cell and jamcha is because he is a clone of all yamchas friends. So he is basicly yamchas ultimate friends.
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The thing is people know about goku and king piccolo but people just plan forgot about goku when he didn't fight in the next world martial arts tournament, so when mr satan won it he inherited all the hype. The moon got blown up in the second tournament goku was in and everyone saw it happen.
In the real version the king recognized him.
In dbz people knew about the flying because there where tournaments where goku was little when he fought king piccolo and piccolo jr (thats the piccolo you know from this) and they where flying there. Funny thing is. Everybody cannonly forgets about the superpowers every time because they only do the tournaments for fun every so years because the tournaments became boring and is just between the people from the gang. But they all know each other from the tournaments. Except from the androids the sayens and the sayen children.
19:22 he is talking to Cell. Because Mr. Satan used Vegeta's line from several episodes ago. ("Do you really believe your own hype that much?" "I AM THE HYPE!!!!")
22:00 also, I love the subtle little ICP joke here.
JFC: "Mr. Satan, what happened?"
Mr.S: "Magnets."
JFC: "How does that work?"
27:41 not a jingle. It's a Barenaked Ladies song, "One Week"
"Chickety China, the Chinese chicken, you have a drumstick and your brain starts tickin'."
Apparently in super, they canonized 16 being based on Gero's son. Also, Cell, the only one on Yamcha's side.
A few things to clarify.
1. Vegeta wanted Cell to kill Mr. Satan cause he stole his line. Trunks asked Vegeta earlier if he really believed his own hype that much, and Vegeta responded, "I am the hype."
2. Tien wasn't being snooty when commenting on Cell using the multi-form technique, he was basically saying that neither Goku or Cell were taking the fight seriously and are just messing around because by creating four clones with that technique you're cutting your power down to 25 percent per clone, which means most of the Z-fighters could defeat one of the clones in a one-on-one fight fairly easily, so Cell is only using it for fun and Goku doesn't destroy them immediately so he can have fun too.
3. The Goku stealing techniques thing is more in response to Goku saying, "You'll never beat me with stolen techniques." Almost all of Goku's moves are ones he learned from others so Goku is being pretty hypocritical by looking down on Cell for using "stolen" techniques.
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Can’t WAIT for the epic conclusion! I hope you continue to make dragon ball content once you’ve finished Abridged 😊
Tien and Vegeta have a vocal rivalry and as long as Vegeta doesn't kill him, Tien can still lose to him verbally. As was stated by him previously:
"At this point it's a game, and if he gives in, I win. And he knows that"
- Tien talking about Vegeta after antagonizing him
Why is it called stealing techniques? Because Goku wasn't actively taught them. He learned Kamehameha, Solar Flare and Destructo Disc just from witnessing them, which admittedly is a testament to his sheer talent, but he didn't look to learn directly FROM their original users. He technically "reverse-engineered" them. Kaioken wasn't stolen but here he was almost gonna give himself sole credit for learning it.
The techniques Goku was legitimately taught aren't stolen obviously, but Goku absolutely DOES steal techniques. The prime example being his signature move, the Kamehameha.
Stealing or being taught, the point they're making is that Goku is like a swiss army knife of the greatest techniques of others. Vegeta by comparison is almost the polar opposite. He prides himself on being self-taught and developing all his own special moves. Especially at this point in the story, anyway.
Holy crap, an AVPM reference? I never thought I'd see that.
I always took it as Hercule can’t use Ki to fly or shoot blasts so he tries to downplay their skills so people don’t realize how incredibly he (the people’s champion) is underpowered. If he can’t reassure people that he has the power to save them after telling them that he is the strongest in the world then it’s all over.
In the original show those people that Cell blew up who weren’t in the manga were added in with Satan on the sidelines were cut back to constantly and were extremely annoying. So Team Four Star removed them completely from the show and edited them out of almost every shot they were originally in except one the was missed. So the running joke is that their ghosts haunted the battlefield
Chickity China, the Chinese chicken
You have a drumstick and your brain stops tickin'
Watchin' X-Files with no lights on, we're dans la maison
I hope the smoking man's in this one
The Muting isn't because of what they are saying, it's the Music playing in the background. Japan doesn't like fair use
"Suddenly real happy I don't go to public school" The Buu saga begins with Gohan going to public school.
"The Solar Flare?" "That's mine, thanks." While Tien invented the Solar Flare in Dragonball, he never actually uses it in Dragonball Z, only Goku, Krillin and Cell do
29:20 Goku had some a reputation when he was younger, but he looks different and people just kind of forgot about Goku. Not SUPER famous, but still, at meast people in the martial arts tournament knew him.
Fun fact about Goku, he has an ability called Adaptive Learning. Basically he can see a technique once and perfectly copy it. He did it with the Kamehameha, the Solar Flair, Multi-Form and most of his other techniques. Majin Buu also has the same ability
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My take on it is, ki-training is nearly a forgotten art (and why wouldn't it be? It's a pain in the butt to learn and only a few people get really good at it), so most people's understanding of martial arts is that it's like how things are in the "real" world.
I'm sympathetic to Mr Satan making flimsy excuses for everything he sees too. His entire life's experience is that 1) martial arts is all about punches and kicks, and 2) he's seen enough special effects to know that you can fake a lot of things. So he's approaching this from his understanding of how the world works. Honestly, I've seen a lot of people be more obstinate about matters that are far easier to accept.
Vegeta let's Tien crack at him because in a earlier episode Krillin acknowledge the same thing and Tien stated "It's a game at this point. If he gives in, I win. And he knows that" basically, if he attacks Tien, Vegeta confirmed to be too sensitive.
Mr Satan clearly has the Doubting Tomas flaw from the Tabletop RPG Savage Worlds XD.
If I remember rightly most of the techniques Goku uses were not actually taught to him but he has an innate talent for understanding and figuring out how techniques are done by just seeing them - He learned the Kamehama Wave after seeing Master Roshi do it once when he first met him which shocked Roshi as he states it took him nearly a 100 years to create and master it.
Yeah, Tien has the upper hands in his verbal fights with Vegeta. Not only does he have the better more stinging one-liners and comebacks 'How many Goku's have you beaten?' (because it's true), but after Trunks returned to his timeline he said: "It's a game. If he kills me, he looses. And he knows that." So yes, Tien absolutely gets away with it.
Each character is presented with their own techniques they developed, but since we’ve followed Goku from the start who essentially starts with nothing we only see him use techniques others have used before. In the original show he does comment about Cells “stolen techniques”, but this is TFS making a little jab about how none of Gokus moves were actually created by him either.
Goku DOES find creative uses of some techniques, such as using a Kamehameha with his feet to propel him forward, but doesn’t use anything that wasn’t taught to him by someone else.
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Most of them were never tought to him. He just used them.
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37:05 I mean, there is not much Vegeta can do against Cell right now. He is very much outclassed
33:42 Its more like every other character have their own different arsenal and Goku just uses other people's techniques.
He does use these techniques with more creativity, but its still other people's techniques. (He never claims its his though)
It all plays on him being a Monkey Boy. (Before the whole saiyan arc thing, specially when he was a kid, he used to have a monkey tail). And well, his deal sorta is "monkey see, monkey do".
Without counting variations of existing techniques, Goku only has one original technique to his name, and its not even canon, as its in one of the movies (that TFS didnt get to adapt, sadly).
Also, another layer to the joke is like, sometimes they claim certain techniques are like .. like they say it belongs to someone even though everyone can do it by just watching it.
Or, for example, with Vegeta, they claim Vegeta's move its when he starts raining down energy balls on his oponent, like its some kind of practiced technique and not just Vegeta spamming energy balls that everyone can do, and doing it fast because he is desperate.
And, if you want to go deeper, a lot of those attacks are just the same beam with a different name, lol
You may want to wait on the dragon shorts. They all take place after Cell.
17:26 Mood, lmao
The only techniques Goku was "taught" are the kaioken, the spirit bomb and the instant transmission (tho in the dbza cannon he technically just was able to do it after he ate sick aliens)
The Kamehameha he literally saw being done once and he just did it his thing, same as the solar flare except I think he saw it being done a couple of times, the rest of the fighters actually developed at least one of their attacks
To be fair, Chichi basically forced Goku to marry her by holding him accountable for a promise he actually didn't make, she can't complain. (and I'm not saying that just because Goku didn't know what mariage was back then, if you go back to the moment he allegedly "promised" to marrry her, you'll see he actually didn't promise anything)