The versions in Trunks's timeline killed a LOT of people. These Androids just stole a van, road-tripped, robbed a department store in the boonies, and threw a cop car into a mountain, lol. Even when 18 fought Vegeta on the highway, Vegeta was the only one killing bystanders 🤣
What's insane is when Cell eventually says "You have no idea how many dead men are behind me." it actually pales in comparison to what the Androids did in the Future timeline. Cell only went on his rampage for a couple of... days? Weeks? The Androids did their, and I quote, "Great Destroyer Schtick" for 17 years. That is A LOT of bodies.
The creator of Dragonball specified that Cell's panic was genuine and he dodged the center of the beam, if he didn't do that the Final Flash would have killed
IIRC he also said 'that' Final Flash was the single strongest attack in Z. the overall power of the characters would get stronger later, but the Final Flash, like the Kamehameha and Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon, are all chargeable attacks, so you could sit there charging them for a bit to hit above your weight class power level-wise like Piccolo did vs Raditz. in this case Cell let Vegeta charge it as much as he wanted and Vegeta put nearly all he had into it.
@@somerandomnon-importantper3219 the spirit bomb is kind of an odd case because it's not a direct damage dealer. it still does environmental damage when it goes off but not nearly on the same scale as the beams, otherwise the one used on Buu or even the one used on Frieza should have been planet busters.
@@MarkoDash Okay, and what about the father son Kamehameha, or Vegeta's final explosion? Each of those feels like it should be stronger than the final flash
They know he has Piccolo's cells, but due to Frieza's race's ability to survive horrific injuries, such as when he survived being cut apart and blown up, he can regenerate from things even Piccolo is incapable of
@@ToyotaCorolla-en2mv he... he kinda didn't knew. lol HIS favourite form was semi-perfect cell. But his colleagues pushed him because they thought "... that thing looks dumb". But that is how toriyama created most of his best work - people close to him / people that worked with him / people that worked for him told him that his current "iteration" isn't that good. So he improved it until they agreed.
Imagine how bad Future Trunks has to feel about all of this. He watches Gohan fall in battle. His mom doesn't tell him anything, and when he travels back in time to save the past he finds out that no one has any sense of self preservation and his father is the prince of d-bags.
So many issues with the Android/Cell Saga... it's the fault of heroes Trunks admired. Imagine how sooner this story would end if they didn't play with their food.
Incidentally, Akira Toriyama confirmed that had Cell taken the Final Flash head on, it might have actually killed him. Kinda like Piccolo charging up against Raditz, you can kill someone much stronger than you if you charge an attack enough.
Yeah people forget what the Final Flash actually is. It’s an attack that when charged up allows Vegeta to hit SIGNIFICANTLY above his normal output, the attack is just that potent, especially the one Cell let him charge up like this.
"AHH MY RAGE HAS BLINDED ME!" -Vegeta, never because you were so focused on checking the solar flare franes you forgot to check if anyone was saying anything during it 😂
2 of My favorite vegeta quotes "Mhh, this is a new feeling... Unfortunately it's overshadowed by this UNYIELDING RAGE" and "IN MERE MOMENTS ALL YOU'LL FEELING IS OBLIVION"
38:10 The crazy thing is, the author/creator actually mentioned once that if Cell hadn't dodged Vegeta's Final Flash at the last second, it would've actually killed him. Cell was having a bit of a Vegeta moment, standing there and trying to take it, but came to his senses at the last second. xD
Yup, Masako has a fantastic singing voice. It's awesome. Actually, it's love in this case! As Krillin said, "If you don't, everyone you know and love is going to die! INCLUDING HER!" And that's when he realized it, hence the "...Oh" and dropping the remote. Yeah, I dunno why you're surprised either. Krillin and Vegeta both currently embody the two main "this is why we can't have nice things" aspects of people. And here we have one of the main reasons why I was glad you watched these two episodes together. TFS said in their creator commentary that in their minds, Cell reaches his perfect form at the same moment Gohan goes Super Saiyan. They wanted to show that at the end of episode 51, but it never really worked out the way they wanted, so they did it this way. And this. This is the moment you truly see peak Vegeta. At the time, Yoriyama himself said that the Final Flash was the single strongest blast in the entire series. However, Cell was planning on letting it hit him dead on. Then the "OH SHIT-" happens, because he realized if he did that he'd actually die. He dodged at the last second to only take a partial hit. Nope, they didn't. The only ones who knew up until now were 16, 17, and 18. And now, I look forward to your coming reactions as Perfect Cell surgically pulls the fight out of everyone via psychological warfare. It's only getting better from here!
I'm so disappointed they didn't retroactively add that joke to Trunks line when he and Vegeta first went in. reads something like "This place... it's nothing but an empty void! i need time to adju--TRAINING BEGINS NOW... you weren't ready"
The thing that it’s worth noting is that Cell had to move from Vegeta’s final flash. If Cell stood his ground, he would have been destroyed beyond the ability to regenerate. Vegeta wasn’t as weak as Cell thought and by powering up could produce an attack stronger than Cell.
Well yeah, and it makes sense. Is cell obviously stronger? For sure but to stand and take a focused all out attack from someone on Vegeta's level is insane but then again no one knew about final flash other then Vegeta himself. He assumed a full power big bang or galick gun was coming..no no.
@@waldoman7And yet Piccolo can also kill someone that has more than double his strength with Special Beam Cannon. Krillin could also cut off Friezas tail and put him on the defensive with Kienzans. Tien was able to repel Semi-Perfect Cell with his Shin KiKoHo. Attacks in DB can let characters hit significantly above their weight class with me just listing three cases.
"This tactic? it would work on Goku too." Kind of? If it was just a matter of letting Cell power up, then yes, absolutely. Him having to absorb #18 to do might be a deal-breaker, though.
@@EwMatias Well, maybe those stupid edgy fan comics people make. But yes, Goku would never let somebody get hurt just so he could have a "better" fight. Anybody saying otherwise hasn't actually paid attention to his character.
Goku only doesn't let people get hurt bc he wins, or time travleing saves him, many a times gokus wamting a good fight would cost tons of lives based on his decision
17:38 that’s probably my favorite “why are you still here?” In this series, the amount of frustration portrayed simply by PAUSING, it’s great, and at this point, we agree with him, why is she STILL there after everything aside from “the plot needs to happen”? “Why. Are you. *Still here?!”*
Actually confirmed by Toriyama that if he hadn't slightly dodged, he would have been vaporized. Was a nice detail. Goes to show that Vegeta wasn't a slouch, even though he was totally outmatched. He had a "chance", at victory. But Cell moved 😂
Yup, that was the single strongest blast in the series to that point, and for a while afterwards, too. Shame Vegeta isn’t allowed to actually win and defeat the main villain
That P.E.R.F.E.C.T song, the Final Flash and the “Wait for Goku” line are some of my favourite moments of the whole series. Honestly the whole rest of the show from 51 onwards is my favourite run of the series. They’re on the absolute top of their game for this!
To be fair, in the actual version, Goku was going too easy on Gohan and it was making him frustrated, so he demanded for Goku to do that. It was actually a really serious and drawn out scene in the actual anime.
10:10 You might be thinking of Trunks's future. These guys grabbed a truck and drove around. Vegeta did all the killing during their first fight. They only killed Dr. Gero. 29:49 Would he, though? When Goku does that, he's got some back-up plan or reason. Let Frieza power up, cause he was gonna shoot down Gohan running away with Piccolo, so that kept him busy (also away from the whole dragon being summoned deal).
I assume the second comment is about Goku letting Cell power up? Yeah, Goku would never do that in this situation. Sure, Goku loves a good fight, but he wouldn't let somebody get hurt to give himself that good fight. And pretty sure absorbing 18 counts as hurting her.
Goku didn't let Frieza power up to keep him busy or away from the Dragon. He did it because he wanted a better fight, and hoping to demoralize him. So that's not a great example of him doing better.
Goku would definitely not have allowed Cell to power up. Not because Goku doesn't want to fight Cell at his full power but because it requires him to kill someone else. Which is not cool with Goku.
@@unlimited971 Not sure how that has anything to do with what I said? Goku had no way to stop frieza from killing Krillin. And when he let Frieza power up he knew that Frieza couldn't beat him and that no one else was in danger.
@@wavemoon...still doesnt vhsnge the fact goku should have finished the job instead of being fight hotny as usual But we give it a pass as usual i see....
Episode 52 and 53, my personal favorites as Vegeta finally gets a bit of comeuppance and then Trunks steps up. Oh and I cannot wait to see your reaction to two of the best and coldest lines of the entire series. No spoilers this time. Also a fun fact: the Final Flash is the strongest attack of the entire saga according to the author and would have obliterated Cell if he didn’t sidestep at th last second, and the music that plays when Vegeta charges the Final Flash is a rescoring of Vegeta’s super saiyan theme from the early 2000’s dub
Actually, in this scenario Goku wouldn’t have let cell become perfect just for the reason that he wouldn’t have sacrificed the androids to cell. Goku will allow opponents to reach their maximum power but he will not do so if it requires a sacrifice of a life.
29:28 btw this attack right here only happens in the anime, and while it's a good character moment for Krillin it kinda... It's not like it strictly doesn't make sense, but krillin's attack canonically was a technique he developed that could cut anything, it basically ignored power levels which was supposed to show that a) power level isn't everything and that b) our underdogs were crafty, that's how he was able to cut freeza's tail, and while theoretically it's not unthinkable to see a difference so great that it's not effective anymore it really did sort of put the final nail on Krillin but also any human character being useful unless you bullshit their power level up
You know some day in the distant future, with all those insane apocalypse beams they fire off into space, a whole bunch of pissed off aliens are going to come to Earth to find the assholes that vaporized their planets.
There's an implication that Trunks' presence in this timeliness caused Gero to alter his plans with the androids, as in the original timeline 17 and 18 were busy killing people, but here Gero tried to increase their power but had less time to remove their humanity and ultimately decided he couldn't use them. And, indeed, he couldn't.
my favorite thing about perfect cell is he once tried to call vegeta prince and vegeta shut him down, now he ONLY calls him prince to show how much higher he is now. its so patronizing lmao
Something interesting about the final flash. Akira toriyama said that the final flash was the strongest blast in the Cell saga. Yes it was stronger than Gohan's Father Son Kamehameha. And the only reason cell survived was because at the last second cell did dodge the attack but it obviously clipped his side off
Just to give context to the reason the footage existed for TFS to play with, in the actual series Goku turns Super Saiyan while training Gohan in the Chamber on Gohan's request. Goku's focus at the beginning is entirely on getting Gohan up to his level; ie, getting him to transform. Like Gohan said last episode, it's already been 4 months and they haven't gotten anywhere. Gohan practically begs Goku to stop holding back, to come at him as a Super Saiyan, partially because he feels responsible for stalling Goku's own development, but also because he can feel that he needs something to push himself past the bottleneck. When Gohan catches Goku's 'Super Saiyan blast' in the actual series, his thoughts are of anger and frustration toward himself.
I don't think Goku would have allowed this to happen intentionally like Vegeta did. For one, Goku wouldn't agree to sacrifice 18 just so he himself could get a better fight. Especially since the cyborgs hadn't committed any atrocities yet in this timeline. Now, what I *could* see happening is that Goku might accidentally let it happen by maybe getting caught in a solar flare or simply letting his guard down for at a crucial moment. But just standing by and watching while Cell absorbs another living being, no shot 😄
Lads and lasses! We've reached peak perfection! Also yes absolutely! MasakoX deserves a lot of praise for the way he's voicing Goku and Gohan, you have no idea what's coming.
In Trunks' defense, he is his father's son. Also, the thing with regeneration is it still takes energy to grow things back, so I'm guessing they were hoping Vegeta would have done enough damage to Cell that regenerating half of his body would be too much for his reserves or it would still leave him severely weakened. Either way, they greatly underestimated just how much power Cell had in reserve and seeing him grow his left side back so easily demonstrated just how powerful Cell really is and how screwed they are.
If you're at all unsure about watch order, the TeamFourStar creator commentary did season 3 like: 31-37 Dead Zone 38-42 Episode of Bardock Return of Cooler 43-44 Celloween 45-46 History of Trunks 47-50 Super Android 13 51-52 World's Strongest 53-56 Broly 57-60 60 Epilogue Kai 2.9 Kai 3 + 3.5 Their logic seems as good as anyone's to follow.
Thank you SO MUCH! I've been getting so many conflicting suggestions. I've seen World's Strongest already, but I can definitely catch up on Android 13 and then carry on with the story.
@ChicagoReacts World Strongest is not an issue I would say. Chronically it fits somewhere pre episode 10 part 2 / e.g. nowhere at all. It us just that Broly refers to it and it is one of the later movies TFS dubbed so quality wise it fits better with the last few.
The reprisal was the second letter E in P E R F E C T, the first E was for extinction (all your puny races) and the second was for eccentric (just listen to his song)
Despite everyone always being hyped for the finale, I think 51 is the peak DBZA for me, with all the great songs and callback jokes. It's just Perfect. And yeah, they haven't killed anyone, aside from Dr. Gero and 18 jumping on cars on the highway and Vegeta killing the drivers while chasing her. Them having 16 around in this universe had his pacifism rubbing off on them, unlike in the Trunk's universe where they're just killing everyone for the lols. And Cell really hasn't lied ever. Everyone assumes there's some typical villain scheme, but Cell has always been perfectly honest with what he does or what he's planning to do. Not fully sure, but I think they had admitted back in the day that Krilling figuring out Trunks hiding his strength was a writing error, but they may have come up with some sort of reasoning in their commentary, don't fully remember.
38:07 To be fair, he DID take a Super Saiyan's most powerful blast head on, without protecting himself. Now Vegeta is worn out, and Cell will spend almost no energy regrowing his arm and will not stand around next time someone does a similar attack again!
I love that thing that finally starts getting Vegeta to respect Trunks is Trunks attacking him. Such a hilarious and perfect moment for their relationship.
10:07 Really "Androids" 16, 17 & 18 from this timeline didn't kill anyone yet, fact: bunch of people died during her battle with Vegeta on a highway, but it was more of Vegeta killing them not her, she just dodged his attacks. AFAIR Vegeta even said during their battle something like: "I'm fine with killing all of those people as long as you will be one of them". Android 19 and 20 (Dr. Gero) on the other hand are completely different story, not to mention Cell - they've killed a bunch of random people.
Piccolo: "CELL'S GONNA KILL US ALL" Lauren: (as Bulma) "And I will die with more zenis than you" That would have happened even if Bulma had lost the bet. Her family is literally the richest family on Earth
Ok, fun thing you can do with YT when searching for something that's in only one frame like the solar flare image. Using . and , you can move forward and back by 1 frame when the video is paused, allowing you to search much more easily. This has been the drive-by RUclips Tips gang. This is how she does it, for anyone who doesn't know.
22:22 - If you like it so much you want to keep him for yourself, does that mean you are being cellfish? 39:40 - remember when you wanted Vegeta taken down a notch?
the difference between goku and vegeta is that while both would let the oponent power to 100% before the fight, goku would never let them do it by killing/absorbing someone.
Takahata101, probably the most iconic abridged VA ever. Also voices Alucard from Teamfourstar's Hellsing Ultimate Abridged series which is unanimously considered only 2nd place to DBZA Abridged. Once this is all over i know everyone would love to see you react to hellsing abridged! Its very very popular
Vegeta letting cell absorb 18 was that one occasion I got mad at him as a child (that i can still remember). I couldn't believe it when I first saw it xDD
@@ChicagoReacts The mind game Cell used with Vegeta would work on Goku if it wasn't that it implied absorbing 18. As dumb Goku can be and as much he loves fighting he wouldn't play with somebody's else life just to have a good fight as Vegeta did.
I felt so bad for Krillin when he used the Destructo Disc on Cell. He had been given so much flak for not using it at opportune moments and here, he believes 18 is gone forever and he finally does use it and it does nothing and he just gets one shotted by Cell. Vegeta is also my favorite character(Although Piccolo gives him a run for his money.) But I was so heffing pissed at him for allowing Cell to become perfect. I was oddly rooting for Cell when he and Vegeta faced off and Cell essentially called him out on his ego, vanity, and selfishness.
I did rewind on your video to listen to the Perfect Cell intro song again which is something I often do when I see this song in reactions because it's just so good. But then it was kinda awkward because when I continued you went back and watched it again yourself lol
The thing of Krilling talking about how many times he's been hit and then jumping to the topic of accusing Trunks of holding back was something the creators of DBZA admitted to be a bit of a confusing bit of dialogue with a jump in logic. They wanted to Krillin to say he knew Trunks was holding back but they didn't iron out that part too well.
26:37 Okay, so like goku did not come up with that plan of 'teaching you how to dodge' that was a very big moment for Gohan saying "it's all or nothing stop going easy on me and hit me with everything you have." Its one of my favorite moments in the whole show and I really dislike how they did that part because it takes away from the amount of courage and willpower gohan has to become great. Strongly suggest looking up a clip of this part. /watch?v=CdNnmJqhm4g There is no spoiler in this. It's the alternate version of this scene.
32:55 No. Krillin meant that Trunks held back when he was hitting Krillin to wake him up after getting slapped by Cell. That's why Trunks said "Oh good, the senzu worked" because punching didn't work.
If you liked Goku singing, I would suggest going to his voice actors RUclips channel to hear him sing some sea shanties. He is voiced by MasakoX, who also voices Gohan.
Your thinking of android 19 and 20 (the old man and clown). 17 & 18 just drove around, trolled some officers, knocked out the z fighters/ broke vegetas arms abs left them alive, threatened/stole from a retail clerk, & blew up a forest. Honestly, vegeta killed more ppl in his fight with 18.
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The versions in Trunks's timeline killed a LOT of people. These Androids just stole a van, road-tripped, robbed a department store in the boonies, and threw a cop car into a mountain, lol. Even when 18 fought Vegeta on the highway, Vegeta was the only one killing bystanders 🤣
What's insane is when Cell eventually says "You have no idea how many dead men are behind me." it actually pales in comparison to what the Androids did in the Future timeline. Cell only went on his rampage for a couple of... days? Weeks?
The Androids did their, and I quote, "Great Destroyer Schtick" for 17 years. That is A LOT of bodies.
They did kill Gero though...but he was a villain so it's fine
@@SuperDecimator also, that was 17, who is not around for this conversation
Vegeta-"I will kill as many people as it takes, as long as your one of them."
To which the defining difference I say is 16. He kind of gave them a fun goal and companionship.
"Did Cell get sexy?"
BABY YOU KNOW IT!
No he got perfect
That jawline dont lie and neither do I.
That jawline don't lie and neither do I!
@@Swaggernaut_X if he's strong as he is handsome...hooooo boy
@@lucasmeleeSo handsome…
The creator of Dragonball specified that Cell's panic was genuine and he dodged the center of the beam, if he didn't do that the Final Flash would have killed
Amazing.
IIRC he also said 'that' Final Flash was the single strongest attack in Z. the overall power of the characters would get stronger later, but the Final Flash, like the Kamehameha and Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon, are all chargeable attacks, so you could sit there charging them for a bit to hit above your weight class power level-wise like Piccolo did vs Raditz.
in this case Cell let Vegeta charge it as much as he wanted and Vegeta put nearly all he had into it.
@@MarkoDash Stronger than the spirit bomb that killed Buu?
@@somerandomnon-importantper3219 the spirit bomb is kind of an odd case because it's not a direct damage dealer.
it still does environmental damage when it goes off but not nearly on the same scale as the beams, otherwise the one used on Buu or even the one used on Frieza should have been planet busters.
@@MarkoDash Okay, and what about the father son Kamehameha, or Vegeta's final explosion? Each of those feels like it should be stronger than the final flash
They know he has Piccolo's cells, but due to Frieza's race's ability to survive horrific injuries, such as when he survived being cut apart and blown up, he can regenerate from things even Piccolo is incapable of
That is a connection I learned just today thanks to you. Thank you!
Ooh, that answers Piccolo's comment later in the show "I am 99% sure I can't survive that"
The delivery of "BLOW YOURSELF UP OR LEAVE, I DON'T CARE WHICH." gets me every time.
"Yeah, okay."
I mean, the level of pure vitriol in that and the "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU!?!!" is insane
@@flyboy6392trunks im oretty sure did NOT like krillin at all through the show
@@Brandonweifu he was actually pretty chill with him searching for Gero's sublab
I just realized that a few episodes ago Tien told her the exactly same thing and her response was also the same :D
Lauren this episode:
*oh no he’s hot!*
He’s got a jawline that can be described as Perfect
Deadass though, Toriyama knew what he was doing
because that jawline dont lie and neither do i
I always wondered if there was a diff semi perfect look had absorbed 18 first
@@ToyotaCorolla-en2mv he... he kinda didn't knew. lol
HIS favourite form was semi-perfect cell. But his colleagues pushed him because they thought "... that thing looks dumb".
But that is how toriyama created most of his best work - people close to him / people that worked with him / people that worked for him told him that his current "iteration" isn't that good. So he improved it until they agreed.
Imagine how bad Future Trunks has to feel about all of this. He watches Gohan fall in battle. His mom doesn't tell him anything, and when he travels back in time to save the past he finds out that no one has any sense of self preservation and his father is the prince of d-bags.
lol
So many issues with the Android/Cell Saga... it's the fault of heroes Trunks admired. Imagine how sooner this story would end if they didn't play with their food.
@@mystery8820
Doubly so for the next saga...
@@WAEVOICE
Which one? Goku Black or Buu?
@@mystery8820Buu saga. Goku was the biggest troll he's ever been in the Buu saga
Incidentally, Akira Toriyama confirmed that had Cell taken the Final Flash head on, it might have actually killed him.
Kinda like Piccolo charging up against Raditz, you can kill someone much stronger than you if you charge an attack enough.
Yeah people forget what the Final Flash actually is. It’s an attack that when charged up allows Vegeta to hit SIGNIFICANTLY above his normal output, the attack is just that potent, especially the one Cell let him charge up like this.
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Shh, spoilers!
She hasn't seen DBZ yet, iirc
@@PearOfTwos aha my bad i should del it 😅
@@swapnilchaturvedi4976 You good, You good
It's easy to forget, the shows pretty old at this point lol
@@chazo1367also I'm pretty sure goading cell into taking it was how he took advantage of the bulky form. I mean he did get a little bigger.
"AHH MY RAGE HAS BLINDED ME!" -Vegeta, never because you were so focused on checking the solar flare franes you forgot to check if anyone was saying anything during it 😂
Yup
2 of My favorite vegeta quotes
"Mhh, this is a new feeling... Unfortunately it's overshadowed by this UNYIELDING RAGE"
and "IN MERE MOMENTS ALL YOU'LL FEELING IS OBLIVION"
There's also a nice follow up to the first quote during the Solar Flair, "Agh, my rage has blinded me!"
It's a reprise of the letter "E", there are 2 e's in "perfect", the first e is for "extinction" and the second is for "eccentric"
"I can't sense power levels, but I can feel THAT. Does that mean anything?"
Underrated line.
38:10 The crazy thing is, the author/creator actually mentioned once that if Cell hadn't dodged Vegeta's Final Flash at the last second, it would've actually killed him. Cell was having a bit of a Vegeta moment, standing there and trying to take it, but came to his senses at the last second. xD
Yup, Masako has a fantastic singing voice. It's awesome.
Actually, it's love in this case! As Krillin said, "If you don't, everyone you know and love is going to die! INCLUDING HER!" And that's when he realized it, hence the "...Oh" and dropping the remote.
Yeah, I dunno why you're surprised either. Krillin and Vegeta both currently embody the two main "this is why we can't have nice things" aspects of people.
And here we have one of the main reasons why I was glad you watched these two episodes together. TFS said in their creator commentary that in their minds, Cell reaches his perfect form at the same moment Gohan goes Super Saiyan. They wanted to show that at the end of episode 51, but it never really worked out the way they wanted, so they did it this way.
And this. This is the moment you truly see peak Vegeta. At the time, Yoriyama himself said that the Final Flash was the single strongest blast in the entire series.
However, Cell was planning on letting it hit him dead on. Then the "OH SHIT-" happens, because he realized if he did that he'd actually die. He dodged at the last second to only take a partial hit.
Nope, they didn't. The only ones who knew up until now were 16, 17, and 18.
And now, I look forward to your coming reactions as Perfect Cell surgically pulls the fight out of everyone via psychological warfare. It's only getting better from here!
Piccolo also knew about the regeneration part. Cell didn't even know that he could do that before seeing Piccolo do it.
fun fact: Lani, Kaiser, and Taka's headcanon is that Gohan turned Super Saiyan the exact same time that Cell went Perfect
Yup
kind of makes sense
@@dattebayo7139 yeah
The Time Chamber echo really makes you feel the otherworldly factor of the void, void, void...
...Why?
Can we avoid that? void... void... void...
I'm so disappointed they didn't retroactively add that joke to Trunks line when he and Vegeta first went in. reads something like "This place... it's nothing but an empty void! i need time to adju--TRAINING BEGINS NOW... you weren't ready"
@@jigstraw2809 the explanation that TFS gives in the creator commentary is that Trunks thought it
@@flyboy6392 oh, interesting. i just figured it wouldn't make sense on a first watch or would spoil the joke in the other episode.
The thing that it’s worth noting is that Cell had to move from Vegeta’s final flash. If Cell stood his ground, he would have been destroyed beyond the ability to regenerate. Vegeta wasn’t as weak as Cell thought and by powering up could produce an attack stronger than Cell.
Well yeah, and it makes sense. Is cell obviously stronger? For sure but to stand and take a focused all out attack from someone on Vegeta's level is insane but then again no one knew about final flash other then Vegeta himself. He assumed a full power big bang or galick gun was coming..no no.
Yet half of goku's power had vegeta awestruck and gohan was stronger once he got serious so it kinda doesn't make sense.
@@waldoman7And yet Piccolo can also kill someone that has more than double his strength with Special Beam Cannon. Krillin could also cut off Friezas tail and put him on the defensive with Kienzans. Tien was able to repel Semi-Perfect Cell with his Shin KiKoHo. Attacks in DB can let characters hit significantly above their weight class with me just listing three cases.
You are thinking of the cyborgs from trunks time-line these are different ones since they are following multiverse theory
Yes, indeed... Judging by anime canon even fucking Vegeta has higher body count in this arc in terms of bystanders than Androids
@@dmitriypi6983 By anime canon, Vegeta even has a higher kill count than Cell.
@@mistman_161 True that. But I was talking just about this arc only though
Its the 16 influence probably.
@@Swaggernaut_X the TFS writers confirmed that in their version of the story that 16 was the factor that stopped them from destroying humanity
Keep in mind, Krillin is a very experienced fighter. So it's not really surprising that he can tell when someone isn't going all out.
"This tactic? it would work on Goku too."
Kind of? If it was just a matter of letting Cell power up, then yes, absolutely. Him having to absorb #18 to do might be a deal-breaker, though.
50/50 tbh. You never know with Goku
I m frankly contemplating that he would screw up too
Not even the most flanderized version of Goku would willingly sacrifice 18.
@@EwMatias Well, maybe those stupid edgy fan comics people make. But yes, Goku would never let somebody get hurt just so he could have a "better" fight. Anybody saying otherwise hasn't actually paid attention to his character.
Goku only doesn't let people get hurt bc he wins, or time travleing saves him, many a times gokus wamting a good fight would cost tons of lives based on his decision
"Did Cell get sexy!?"
Well, he IS Perfect.
I think you're going to relate a lot with Goku's impression of Perfect Cell.
Lauren your reaction to "There's nothing he could do to make this worse" is so spot on.
17:38 that’s probably my favorite “why are you still here?” In this series, the amount of frustration portrayed simply by PAUSING, it’s great, and at this point, we agree with him, why is she STILL there after everything aside from “the plot needs to happen”?
“Why. Are you. *Still here?!”*
This was really the golden age of the music for DragonBall Z Abridged.
Final Flash is in my workout playlist when I'm getting those hard reps in.
Just to point out, since it's not actually brought up in buu bits iirc.
The door getting destroyed would be BAAAAD because it's their only* way out.
Fun fact: cell actually partially dodged the final flash, if he hadn't last second the arc likely would've ended there
Actually confirmed by Toriyama that if he hadn't slightly dodged, he would have been vaporized. Was a nice detail. Goes to show that Vegeta wasn't a slouch, even though he was totally outmatched. He had a "chance", at victory. But Cell moved 😂
Yup, that was the single strongest blast in the series to that point, and for a while afterwards, too. Shame Vegeta isn’t allowed to actually win and defeat the main villain
That P.E.R.F.E.C.T song, the Final Flash and the “Wait for Goku” line are some of my favourite moments of the whole series. Honestly the whole rest of the show from 51 onwards is my favourite run of the series. They’re on the absolute top of their game for this!
To be fair, in the actual version, Goku was going too easy on Gohan and it was making him frustrated, so he demanded for Goku to do that. It was actually a really serious and drawn out scene in the actual anime.
"Nothing has ever humbled this man"
And nothing will 😅
10:10 You might be thinking of Trunks's future. These guys grabbed a truck and drove around. Vegeta did all the killing during their first fight. They only killed Dr. Gero.
29:49 Would he, though? When Goku does that, he's got some back-up plan or reason. Let Frieza power up, cause he was gonna shoot down Gohan running away with Piccolo, so that kept him busy (also away from the whole dragon being summoned deal).
It was still inadvertent man slaughter and would be charged but I don't remember if that happened in the manga or it was just anime filler
I assume the second comment is about Goku letting Cell power up? Yeah, Goku would never do that in this situation. Sure, Goku loves a good fight, but he wouldn't let somebody get hurt to give himself that good fight. And pretty sure absorbing 18 counts as hurting her.
Spoiler for the finale....
Counter point... Goku let this all happen. He wanted Cell to become perfect to challenge Gohan.
Goku didn't let Frieza power up to keep him busy or away from the Dragon. He did it because he wanted a better fight, and hoping to demoralize him. So that's not a great example of him doing better.
Can we please stop trying to make goku some moral superhero?
Him letting freeza power up was simply what it was.
He wanted a good fight
The intro song is a parody of Giant Woman from Steven Universe, which if you haven't watched you absolutely should. It's a fantastic series.
Don't know if anyone else said something, but there's only one single-frame image inserted in each solar flare. So once you find it, you're good!
Goku would definitely not have allowed Cell to power up. Not because Goku doesn't want to fight Cell at his full power but because it requires him to kill someone else. Which is not cool with Goku.
Frieza killedxkrillin and goku ws mad at him. Still let him full powa
@@unlimited971 Not sure how that has anything to do with what I said?
Goku had no way to stop frieza from killing Krillin.
And when he let Frieza power up he knew that Frieza couldn't beat him and that no one else was in danger.
@@wavemoon...still doesnt vhsnge the fact goku should have finished the job instead of being fight hotny as usual
But we give it a pass as usual i see....
@@wavemoongoku DIDNT KNOW he coukd atill beat freeza,he honest to god got lucky his SSJ was that much of a power up AKA plot armor
Also, Goku at this point has came up with his plan, but yeah, Goku wouldn't let Cell kill neither of the sibling cyborgs... I mean, androids...
Episode 52 and 53, my personal favorites as Vegeta finally gets a bit of comeuppance and then Trunks steps up. Oh and I cannot wait to see your reaction to two of the best and coldest lines of the entire series. No spoilers this time. Also a fun fact: the Final Flash is the strongest attack of the entire saga according to the author and would have obliterated Cell if he didn’t sidestep at th last second, and the music that plays when Vegeta charges the Final Flash is a rescoring of Vegeta’s super saiyan theme from the early 2000’s dub
I really hope one of those lines is "You couldn't fathom the *this space intentionally left blank* behind me.", it's one of my favourites :D
Heum proof pls
@@Whitewingdevil oh it is. As well as the ‘ that you let him’ line
Lauren checking the frames during solar flare: "Did i miss anything?"
Um yes, you missed Vegeta's line 😅
Actually, in this scenario Goku wouldn’t have let cell become perfect just for the reason that he wouldn’t have sacrificed the androids to cell.
Goku will allow opponents to reach their maximum power but he will not do so if it requires a sacrifice of a life.
I feel like this point is missed.
That scream when 18 throws herself at cell gives me absolute chills, every time. The voice actress nailed it on that one.
Haunting. She delivered that line well.
29:28 btw this attack right here only happens in the anime, and while it's a good character moment for Krillin it kinda... It's not like it strictly doesn't make sense, but krillin's attack canonically was a technique he developed that could cut anything, it basically ignored power levels which was supposed to show that a) power level isn't everything and that b) our underdogs were crafty, that's how he was able to cut freeza's tail, and while theoretically it's not unthinkable to see a difference so great that it's not effective anymore it really did sort of put the final nail on Krillin but also any human character being useful unless you bullshit their power level up
You know some day in the distant future, with all those insane apocalypse beams they fire off into space, a whole bunch of pissed off aliens are going to come to Earth to find the assholes that vaporized their planets.
I for one can't wait for that DLC.
There's an implication that Trunks' presence in this timeliness caused Gero to alter his plans with the androids, as in the original timeline 17 and 18 were busy killing people, but here Gero tried to increase their power but had less time to remove their humanity and ultimately decided he couldn't use them. And, indeed, he couldn't.
Fun fact: at 17:04, Cell was singing his own theme song from the actual show!
my favorite thing about perfect cell is he once tried to call vegeta prince and vegeta shut him down, now he ONLY calls him prince to show how much higher he is now. its so patronizing lmao
Something interesting about the final flash. Akira toriyama said that the final flash was the strongest blast in the Cell saga. Yes it was stronger than Gohan's Father Son Kamehameha. And the only reason cell survived was because at the last second cell did dodge the attack but it obviously clipped his side off
In krillins defense, he has died twice in the series. He understands more than the others the significance of taking someone's life.
Just to give context to the reason the footage existed for TFS to play with, in the actual series Goku turns Super Saiyan while training Gohan in the Chamber on Gohan's request. Goku's focus at the beginning is entirely on getting Gohan up to his level; ie, getting him to transform. Like Gohan said last episode, it's already been 4 months and they haven't gotten anywhere. Gohan practically begs Goku to stop holding back, to come at him as a Super Saiyan, partially because he feels responsible for stalling Goku's own development, but also because he can feel that he needs something to push himself past the bottleneck. When Gohan catches Goku's 'Super Saiyan blast' in the actual series, his thoughts are of anger and frustration toward himself.
Lauren: Eeww he’s worse
*Perfect Cell stance’d and Singing*
Meanwhile Lauren- 😱😃🤭
19:34
You: "Nice"
Me: (O_o).....wait, WHAT??!! LOL 😆
I don't think Goku would have allowed this to happen intentionally like Vegeta did.
For one, Goku wouldn't agree to sacrifice 18 just so he himself could get a better fight. Especially since the cyborgs hadn't committed any atrocities yet in this timeline.
Now, what I *could* see happening is that Goku might accidentally let it happen by maybe getting caught in a solar flare or simply letting his guard down for at a crucial moment.
But just standing by and watching while Cell absorbs another living being, no shot 😄
Trunks may not be the strongest, but he consistently has the brain cell.
Crap they need to beat another Cell? Damn there’s just too many
12:42 Bulma is already the richest woman in existence.
The thing about rich people is, and this may come as a surprise, they tend to be pretty good at gaining more money
Lads and lasses! We've reached peak perfection!
Also yes absolutely! MasakoX deserves a lot of praise for the way he's voicing Goku and Gohan, you have no idea what's coming.
The voice actor for Android 18 (and android 16) absolutely killed their roles (pun intended).
Amber Lee Conners was 18, you might recognise her as the lead character in "Komi Can't Communicate".
In Trunks' defense, he is his father's son.
Also, the thing with regeneration is it still takes energy to grow things back, so I'm guessing they were hoping Vegeta would have done enough damage to Cell that regenerating half of his body would be too much for his reserves or it would still leave him severely weakened. Either way, they greatly underestimated just how much power Cell had in reserve and seeing him grow his left side back so easily demonstrated just how powerful Cell really is and how screwed they are.
Cell smashed the Goku Button so hard he broke it for the rest of the season.
If you're at all unsure about watch order, the TeamFourStar creator commentary did season 3 like:
31-37
Dead Zone
38-42
Episode of Bardock
Return of Cooler
43-44
Celloween
45-46
History of Trunks
47-50
Super Android 13
51-52
World's Strongest
53-56
Broly
57-60
60 Epilogue
Kai 2.9
Kai 3 + 3.5
Their logic seems as good as anyone's to follow.
Thank you SO MUCH! I've been getting so many conflicting suggestions. I've seen World's Strongest already, but I can definitely catch up on Android 13 and then carry on with the story.
@@ChicagoReacts No problem! I'm loving your reactions to this series so I look forward to all the rest!
@ChicagoReacts World Strongest is not an issue I would say. Chronically it fits somewhere pre episode 10 part 2 / e.g. nowhere at all. It us just that Broly refers to it and it is one of the later movies TFS dubbed so quality wise it fits better with the last few.
The androids from Trunk's timeline killed people, they didn't have 16 to mellow them out.
The reprisal was the second letter E in
P E R F E C T, the first E was for extinction (all your puny races) and the second was for eccentric (just listen to his song)
“You are way out of your league, tiny duck” i love the double meaning of this line XD
Despite everyone always being hyped for the finale, I think 51 is the peak DBZA for me, with all the great songs and callback jokes. It's just Perfect.
And yeah, they haven't killed anyone, aside from Dr. Gero and 18 jumping on cars on the highway and Vegeta killing the drivers while chasing her. Them having 16 around in this universe had his pacifism rubbing off on them, unlike in the Trunk's universe where they're just killing everyone for the lols. And Cell really hasn't lied ever. Everyone assumes there's some typical villain scheme, but Cell has always been perfectly honest with what he does or what he's planning to do.
Not fully sure, but I think they had admitted back in the day that Krilling figuring out Trunks hiding his strength was a writing error, but they may have come up with some sort of reasoning in their commentary, don't fully remember.
I think I only prefer Episode 30 part 2 over this episode, but yeah, from here on out is _definitely_ peak DBZA altogether!
38:07 To be fair, he DID take a Super Saiyan's most powerful blast head on, without protecting himself. Now Vegeta is worn out, and Cell will spend almost no energy regrowing his arm and will not stand around next time someone does a similar attack again!
I love that thing that finally starts getting Vegeta to respect Trunks is Trunks attacking him. Such a hilarious and perfect moment for their relationship.
If he's as strong as he is handsome, we're in trouble
10:07 Really "Androids" 16, 17 & 18 from this timeline didn't kill anyone yet, fact: bunch of people died during her battle with Vegeta on a highway, but it was more of Vegeta killing them not her, she just dodged his attacks. AFAIR Vegeta even said during their battle something like: "I'm fine with killing all of those people as long as you will be one of them". Android 19 and 20 (Dr. Gero) on the other hand are completely different story, not to mention Cell - they've killed a bunch of random people.
Piccolo: "CELL'S GONNA KILL US ALL"
Lauren: (as Bulma) "And I will die with more zenis than you"
That would have happened even if Bulma had lost the bet. Her family is literally the richest family on Earth
Ok, fun thing you can do with YT when searching for something that's in only one frame like the solar flare image.
Using . and , you can move forward and back by 1 frame when the video is paused, allowing you to search much more easily. This has been the drive-by RUclips Tips gang.
This is how she does it, for anyone who doesn't know.
22:22 - If you like it so much you want to keep him for yourself, does that mean you are being cellfish?
39:40 - remember when you wanted Vegeta taken down a notch?
we shall see if his ego or just his body was bruised.
Now you see why Trunks was screaming at the end of episode 50, because he knew Vegeta would allow Cell to absorb 18 for a better fight.
The rumor is that if the final flash had connected fully it would have actually killed cell
the difference between goku and vegeta is that while both would let the oponent power to 100% before the fight, goku would never let them do it by killing/absorbing someone.
The way cell just tanks a KIENZAN (this thing only fails if it misses) to the back of his neck and it just evaporates??
Ah dang it, due to making sure you didn't miss anything in the solar flare, you missed Vegeta saying "AH! MY RAGE BLINDED ME!" lol
I love the music with Vegeta's attack in this one! The scene is so good!!!
Takahata101, probably the most iconic abridged VA ever. Also voices Alucard from Teamfourstar's Hellsing Ultimate Abridged series which is unanimously considered only 2nd place to DBZA Abridged. Once this is all over i know everyone would love to see you react to hellsing abridged! Its very very popular
What you missed during the solar flare was Vegeta's line "Ahh, my rage has blinded me!"
Vegeta letting cell absorb 18 was that one occasion I got mad at him as a child (that i can still remember). I couldn't believe it when I first saw it xDD
28:05 so, according to the TFS guys, in their canon, this scene and Cell achieving Perfection happened simultaneously
She missed the "My rage has blinded me!" Joke on the solar flare scene
You are right, just like trunks, cell does indeed get hot. You'd be surprised how many people had a crush on him
so glad it's not just me lol
@@ChicagoReacts The mind game Cell used with Vegeta would work on Goku if it wasn't that it implied absorbing 18. As dumb Goku can be and as much he loves fighting he wouldn't play with somebody's else life just to have a good fight as Vegeta did.
The funny thing is that if cell hadn’t moved at the last second, that final flash would’ve killed him
Even Abridged Goku wouldnt let someone die just for a better fight. Freeza didnt hurt people to power up fully. They were all off the planet.
Its always Cell awakening something in someone i swear
All my rewatches and I just realized when cell is humming and walking he’s humming perfect cells theme
I felt so bad for Krillin when he used the Destructo Disc on Cell. He had been given so much flak for not using it at opportune moments and here, he believes 18 is gone forever and he finally does use it and it does nothing and he just gets one shotted by Cell.
Vegeta is also my favorite character(Although Piccolo gives him a run for his money.) But I was so heffing pissed at him for allowing Cell to become perfect. I was oddly rooting for Cell when he and Vegeta faced off and Cell essentially called him out on his ego, vanity, and selfishness.
I did rewind on your video to listen to the Perfect Cell intro song again which is something I often do when I see this song in reactions because it's just so good. But then it was kinda awkward because when I continued you went back and watched it again yourself lol
The thing of Krilling talking about how many times he's been hit and then jumping to the topic of accusing Trunks of holding back was something the creators of DBZA admitted to be a bit of a confusing bit of dialogue with a jump in logic. They wanted to Krillin to say he knew Trunks was holding back but they didn't iron out that part too well.
That transition from terror to disgust to delight to swoon was just 👌😆
I don't think Goku would have let Cell evolve. Goku wouldn't purposefully sacrifice a person’s life for a better challenge.
Gohan:.....uh huh.....
@@BrandonweifuWhat?
@@helloasa9296 you know what
@@Brandonweifu Look like even you don't know what you are talking about.
Ah, you missed one of. Y favorite Vegeta quotes, " Ah, my rage has blinded me!!"😂
26:37 Okay, so like goku did not come up with that plan of 'teaching you how to dodge' that was a very big moment for Gohan saying "it's all or nothing stop going easy on me and hit me with everything you have." Its one of my favorite moments in the whole show and I really dislike how they did that part because it takes away from the amount of courage and willpower gohan has to become great. Strongly suggest looking up a clip of this part.
/watch?v=CdNnmJqhm4g There is no spoiler in this. It's the alternate version of this scene.
32:55 No. Krillin meant that Trunks held back when he was hitting Krillin to wake him up after getting slapped by Cell. That's why Trunks said "Oh good, the senzu worked" because punching didn't work.
If you liked Goku singing, I would suggest going to his voice actors RUclips channel to hear him sing some sea shanties. He is voiced by MasakoX, who also voices Gohan.
Oooh! Nice! Will do
Oh just wait for episode 60 for the reprise
I find it hilarious that the original German version of final flash has Cell saying the exact same thing before getting hit and in English at that.
Your thinking of android 19 and 20 (the old man and clown). 17 & 18 just drove around, trolled some officers, knocked out the z fighters/ broke vegetas arms abs left them alive, threatened/stole from a retail clerk, & blew up a forest. Honestly, vegeta killed more ppl in his fight with 18.
The song Goku is singing is called "Grab a Bowl" it's on youtube.
Disgusted to immediately attracted right when he started singing. My sister is the same
A bit late, but the "reprise" in Cell's song was just meaning using the E a second time.
P is for priceless. The look upon your faces
Unfortunately, E is for extinction....
@@TheGoddamnBacon of all your puny races
41:51 *R.I.P.* Super Best Friends