There's a part in the video that mentions the Dr. Ratio & ultimate DMG thing. This video was recorded before yesterday's video so thanks to a few of y'all, it was already answered that Dr. Ratio's FUAs from the Ultimate specifically do NOT count for ULT DMG. Big unfort, but JackQHoe gives Ratio all 3 debuffs on his own, which is a big plus. Definitely some Silver Wolf vibes!
i personally hate hypercarry because it's such a pain in the ass to build these team, i really like Kafka-DoT, Firefly / Boothill - Superbreak because they are relative easy to build and accessible, at least in my opinio, i still feel like i need Jq and Blackswan to make my DoT / Acheron team perfect
I don’t wanna be that guy but if you wanna shout out the math guys you should check out hunterkee. Isummon has made some pretty egregious math mistakes before that I still don’t think he ever fixed (check out the Firefly LC calc vid. Using his own numbers the conclusion makes no sense. It’s somehow 12/10 = ~1.30%).
@@bamboozled_again It's not even a pain in the ass to build hypercarry teams. I have 7 hypercarries on my account. They all share the same relics (Except for Blade). You really don't need to waste your time farming a full-set for your other characters if you already have a 70/200 CRIT set. It's pretty damn easy to build a 4-Piece Rainbow in my opinion. It saves you 800+ cavern runs. Just get Jiaoqiu and run Acheron, Ruan Mei & Robin with him. You won't need a sustain if they're all dead.
Appreciate you and definitely gotta keep at it. Gonna try some new things, but I read a quote last month that told me "you have to fall so that you can rise to greatness" or something like that. It was good to read in the moment.
@@Iyoverse Ey bro, at the end of the day, we who come back, come back for the C'hantent. Less drama, more quality. You just gotta catch yourself when you're putting out too much chaf and focus on your strong suits. To me you bring out the attitude of still finding the strength of each character despite all doomposters, trying to squeeze that 90k Yanqing plays even when it's tough.
People severely underrate the supportive nihility characters. Pela was pretty underrated until Dr. Ratio came out, and she's finally gotten respect since then. Silver Wolf has been underrated for a very long time and finally with Acheron some people care about her, but there's still people who complain about the fact that she's ST. Guinaifen was seen as only a DoT character until Ratio. Black Swan is still mostly seen as only DoT, even though she has other supportive purposes. It's not at all surprising that we keep seeing people act like Acheron or bust for Jiaoqiu. People need to get into their heads that nihility is a path with a variety of characters. We have dps. We have DoT. Some of them can be built as great break characters. We have support. And most of them can be used for multiple reasons. It's not pigeon-holed into one niche.
Severely underrated Nihility supports aren't used in the community as often because there aren't a lot of people who have the opportunity to build them. F2Ps particularly run into problems like this which is the majority of HSR players. That is to say, they are underrated for a reason. Everyone knew that Pela would pop off, they just didn't have the relics back then to do so. Respect is a strong word to use for Pela, I'd say that she had some spotlight but it's not enough to harbor any respect over a character. Silver Wolf has always been the best option for versatile teams. It's just that no one is posting frequent videos or talking about her since they don't care to talk about the game. I could care less if people think that a character is Single-Target. If you're having trouble clearing with a Single-Target unit then your DMG/SPD isn't high enough. Farm caverns more efficiently. Guinaifen is in the back with Amber. She is the walking definition of what an "Amber" looks like. She's only being used for a niche thing so I'd keep her out of team comps unless your Guinaifen has some god-tier stats. I have her built to Lvl 80 myself and she's better off not being used until another vulnerability enabler comes out. She's like Blade... her kit came out too early and she's not ready for Vulnerability as a new meta/archetype. Jiaoqiu would flat out replace her so don't even bother putting them on the same team. Black Swan is one of the most useful Nihility characters in the game. She has high consistent DoTs and enables units like Pela to stack DEF shredding to higher levels. If it wasn't for her DEF shredding, universal vulnerability (on enemy turns) and her universal DoTs she'd be a 5-Star copy of Sampo. That is to say, she is a great 5-Star to get. Well if you don't have a good Nihility character other than Pela for Acheron... it's essentially bust or move on at that point. You really should strive for two good nihility debuffers for Acheron. People who skipped Silver Wolf & Black Swan may be apart of the "people" you're talking about. We've all seen what Nihility can do, and it started from Destruction first. Might just be you who is being bothered by others' remarks but I think I've definitely cleared up what you didn't already say here.
@@TeamSakuraKC Tbh I think a lot of ppl though SW was broken but as acheron, Boothill and firefly came out and now fei xiao with her ult is when SW started falling off especially when Pela has also 40% def shred aoe (idk how much SW has) Am sure she is great but mostly for casuals and not so for people that eventually get all elements
i personal think jq is gonna rise up as more characters come up. having aoe vulnerability and increaed ulitmate damage is insanely valuable. not to mention being able to 3 turn ult. jq has insane value in my opinion but thats just me, even if you dont have acheron because a lot of characters do have their damage locked behind their ultimate not just acheron seele, argenti, feixiao, yunli, acheron (obv) etc. if were gonna keep getting ultimate damage based characters then hes one of those characters that will have insane value in the future unlike silver (sadly) i still think silvers good but if you want good defense reducing capabilities, jiaqiio is prolly better in that category
@@ibrahimkouidri634 I'm prepared to open my wallet so its fine. Lets hope that my luck is good just like when I was pulling for HuoHuo; I won 50/50 and got her signature LC in the first 4 pulls!
They butchered Silverwolf in Apocalyptic Shadow. All the bosses are considered to have NO weaknesses. All the weaknesses they have are considered to be ordinary Implant, meaning that it is *IMPOSSIBLE* to guarantee the Implant that you want outside of Mono Quantum. Even more so when the mode heavily incentivizes breaking the enemy's weakness in the first place.
That makes no sense to me as well. That's what the girl shines best, single target. And they went and made her gimmick pretty much irrelevant on the one game mode where she had no downsides
@@ColninjaPlaysMC are you saying that if enemy has a wind, fire, and imaginary weakness and i have a wind , fire and imaginary unit alongwith Silverwolf which is quantum, this can also guarantee Quantum? So it depends on enemy weakness too?
I have been saving and pre farming for him. I do have E2 Acheron with her LC. Want her team to be the best it can be. Plus I love his design…. and I do have Sparkle.
@@kuvjason7236 that didn’t happen. Prior to release people were already comparing RM to sparkle and the consensus was sparkle was better. When she released it was agreed upon that RM was better. People didn’t skip for her, especially because the patch before was giga dead (huohuo and argenti) and after RM we got ratio for free
I think ppl are underestimating JQ because of his current teams, but on paper I think he is going to be very strong for the 3.x teams, especially if a new mechanic comes up, which may like Vuln a lot
I think its highly likely we'll get better units for Ratio in the future. We want to really invest in that FuA or debuffing, and he doesn't actually provide that many debuffs compared to other Nihility and has 0 FuA (which is significant b/c FuA teams chain FuA's off each other for exponential growth). He can be used in any team, but he's going to be replaced fairly quickly in a FuA team - just need a harmony or nihility unit with FuA's in their kit and he's out.
I haven't touched Star Rail since Sunday tried to explain the concept of "weekends" to me & my interest in the narrative kinda evaporated but I've been looking for an excuse to try to get back into it. Maybe Jiaoqiu will do it for me. My Acheron team could definitely use a mixup
Signature Shaoji moment! Reminds me of when he spent half a story arc rambling about "why do birds fly" and it turned out the answer was "who tf cares"
I feel like we need more attention on the robin + gallagher with qpq combo, it's kind of insane even for cycles longer than 0-1 cycles, better for hypercarry
I want him for my acheron as a lover of foxes and a husbando collector, but at the same time Ive wanted Sunday from the moment i saw his chibi introduce the penacony cast in the 1.6 live stream and I will get Sunday no matter what it takes i love him, i love his character i love his story and background and whole philosophy i am well and truly obsessed with him lol Anyon else can wait for thier reruns
i heard sunday will only come 2.7, so unless ur set on getting all his eidolons, i say pull for jiaoqiu and after that save til sunday (thats what ill do)
I understand hes good. But honestly i simply dont have the jades as a f2p. Ive only got 115 pulls and a dream and i want B.S and Robin. So massive skip for me. I really wanted sparkle too. (I main ratio and acheron)
Same, I only have 120 pulls, I want JQ for my Acheron but also need Kafka since I only have Black Swan. And there is also Robin which I also want for universal buff so I guess I'm screwed.
@foggyfrog so Kafka and Robin will be your priority. For me It's B.S and Robin Wishing you luck on your pulls. I have a guarantee at least. (Lost my 50/50 to welt so not actually a loss)
@@RidhaaWilliams-c3m I am honestly still unsure who will be the priority, since I love Acheron and her playstyle while also loving DoT and all the characters in it. But Robin is way too fun and strong, the problem is my teams are Break Firefly & Boothill and Acheron+BS so I don't really need her. Good luck to both of us as well, may we win all our 50/50s
I think the character has very good longevity but is not going to be a crazy meta 5star that changes your account. If you have Robin or Ruan Mei, he's not going to change anything. But hey, a year down the road he'll still provide the debuffs you expect a nihility unit to provide. Unlike some other units (Blade), he should be useful forever. He'll just never be meta or super hype - his kit doesn't offer that. If he was, we would see this in showcases, and we're not. The only potential exception is if you get his E2. I think that's the highest multiplier of any DoT in the game at like 480% or so. Popping that with units like Kafka could be insane - I haven't seen like any showcases with him in a DoT setup at E2 though.
Break is not the dendro of hsr, break is definitely the cryo and it has all the halmarks of it being a flash in the pan before more bar lock mechanics get introduced.
@@ATHOS_of_INDEX It's EXACTLY who she reminds me of and how they hyped up melt and there was a lot of enemies in spiral abyss for a minute that were weak to it...Just like the break meta we are currently seeing.
@@mogalixir or bar lock becomes a more common thing , or implant immunity/resist gets introduced, etc. if something becomes too good they can and will introduce stuff to prevent people from getting too comfortable with their teams. They did it with the freeze meta, they can do it again if break gets out of hand.
Took your advice on completing a team vs getting random characters i like..you were not wrong. Jiaoqui definitely boosted my team to new heights. Keep up the good work brotha
Is there going to be a video or a part of a future video talking about his value for e2 acheron? I've been on the fence for a while about him just because of that e2 acheron factor.
I can make it, but to be honest she doesn’t need him if Acheron is E2. She’s already OD, but Jack will be her (current) strongest debuffer period. She’ll love him, but if you want to save jades it’s a good decision to make.
@@Iyoversebruh thank god actually, because i was conflicted + people kept on saying ill lose on lots of dmg if i dont get him for my e2 acheron Plus i think im fine with my fast SW she has so much actions/debuffs that i don’t worry much
I would've pulled for Silver Wolf if I saved up enough for her first and second rerun... Same issue with Jiaoqiu. If I had enough to get him and the next character in-line, then I would've done so. I want Feixiao and if I can't win the 50/50, I'll get Robin. I'm just hoping that Silver Wolf/Jiaoqiu rerun doesn't come with Sparkle's or another character I like. I've been using Acheron, Black Swan, Pela & Gallagher/Luocha so I have no problem ULTing every turn. I would love to zero cycle but that comes after I farm relics for my Acheron/Firefly team.
As an f2p what i've been doing is skipping everything and investing vertically ie rn I have e1 acheron s1 I have firefly e1 rm e1 and will probably pull lingsha e1 what I hope by doing this is making those teams last as long as possible so I can pull for the characters I like and not give a flying fuck about meta for a while, I feel this is the real benefit of investing vertically
I think you'd eliminate a lot of the negative noise if you stop using statements like "moving away from X" and embrace the "enabling Y, Z, etc'". Yes, the game is "pushing" certain comps but you could also say it's "providing" since FuA and Dual dps existed since 1.0. They are just better now with new options for them
I say stuff like Jingliu fell off all the time and I don't give a single a damn if it pisses people off. Negative noise can be cancelled by removing them from your sights. We're moving away from old DPS and it's better to just move to another area of interested than to stay dedicated to one thing. Saying that a character fell off is the same concept as moving away from something. It's how life works. We should be embracing new concepts while utilizing and improving on the old ones. No matter what I say, I'm still a Blade main.
He'd definitely move away from negative noise if he learned to edit himself more. But it don't really matter. Iyo's a yapper and most of his content is just for yapping. It appeals to specific people and sometimes I like to hear some yappin.
It kinda reminds me of WuWa. Certain chars may use their ultimate but the attacks they use in their ultimate aren't necessarily considered "ultimate" dmg. I like how HSR is implementing this now.
TBH i was sleeping on Jiaoqiu before seeing the calcs showing that the dmg increase of his debuffs (not counting the ultimate dmg), even without his LC is actually better than Pela's, and by a decent margin aswell. Also Silver Wolf literally carried me through this last AS, as my Acheron (E0S0) just wasn't doing enough dmg to Kafka, so i changed into my Hypercarry Dr.Ratio team (With SW, Sparkle and E0S1 Aventurine) and the dmg was simply insane. So yea, SW is still one of the best characters in the game.
Honestly, I am not sure if I want to pull for Jiaoqiu right now. My two favorite teams I have are my Acheron (E0S1) team and Kafka Swan team. I already have E1 Ruan Mei and if the leaks are true about the rerun banners of next patch. I feel kinda screwed as I wanted to get E1 on my Robin and my Black Swan. (I also wanted E1 on Kafka but I feel like this can wait). I also have a build Himeko with which I love to use RM alongside Herta or in Super Break team, so that's why I wanted to get E1 on my Robin as both my DOT team and Acheron team can use her if RM is already taken. As for E1 Black Swan, it's pretty self-explanatory.
I have no idea who to go for next. My account is missing Wind and Lightning DPS. I have great support characters, Ruan Mei, Robin, Sparkle, Huohuo, Fu Xian, Aventurine, Luocha, Bronya. Just stuck on damage dealers and team comp
@@ericg8821 same tbh, i was initially planning for Kafka but i feel like Feixiao would be more valuable considering i have a bunch of fua units and zero dot units (not planning on pulling black swan)
Hey, nice video! Need a word of advice. I have E5S1 Acheron and now running her with Bronya E1S1 + Pela and Gala. I'm planning to get JQ E0 at least, but struggle with decision on what to pull next, his S1? Maybe Sparkle E0S0 or E0S1 ? (no way I get E2 for her sadly) And there is starting to appear a lot of videos saying Robins is BiS now for this team and maybe I should skip Sparkle for Robin? Would be glad to hear your opinion.
Sparkle is better but only if you can get 168 speed on wind set and give her an S5 DDD. Otherwise go for Robin. Jiaoqiu would be better for Acheron (not by much though, at least over sweat Pela + Robin) but for your whole account high investment Robin is definitely better (e2s1 is really good)
Me personally, I’m not 100% sure on whether I will pull or not, as of right now imma wait for the livestream, I want feixaio, but like if a character I love and have been waiting for for a while, then I skip, if it’s someone I’m not interested in or already have and don’t need lc or eidolons for, then I pull
My issue with gui is that she has break traces but nothing else in her kit resonates with break (save for the burn damage) in my opinion. Yeah you can make it work but you could also make it work with asta hook or gallagher.
I have a full follow up roster but I just don't like the playstyle. I switch between Kafka-Swan Acheron and Ruan-HTB Firefly. Jacky should fit in pretty well with my Acheron comps and actually give me a reason to run my SW again for massive def-vuln shred. Also keep posting man. You did no wrong.
Acheron has been compared to FF a lot lately, especially after Prydwen dropped her a spot in AS recently. Keep this in mind; FF had her premium team on release, which includes another limited character; Ruan Mei. JQ is looking to be Acheron's premium support. So going forward, if we're being fair, we'll either compare E0/S0 Acheron and FF without their premium supports _(RM and JQ)_ or we'll compare them with them.
Dawg, it'll be Feixiao on the tierlist once she comes out. We'll have the holy trinity of DPS legends. You can still use Ruan Mei with Acheron... just gotta make sure Acheron hits over 600k+ per ULT. I did a test with Acheron, Ruan Mei, Yukong & Bronya earlier and I found that Acheron is better off with full supports. If we assume that we can place Acheron, Ruan Mei, Sparkle & Robin on the same team, you won't even need Jiaoqiu. The PP girls are too strong together.
@@yanuwwuu You guys can do what you want, I could care less. Acheron enters battle with 5 Crimson Knots if you use her Technique. When you open battle, you can push forward Acheron with Sparkle and she'll get 6 Stacks (7 If you have her Signature Lightcone). You just have do this three more times, break an enemy or apply Ruan Mei's ULT debuff and that's pretty easy to do. Your Robin can also advance your action forward so there's no problem here. She acts as the backup Nihility. Run Sparkle with 160+ SPD (Use Dance, Dance, Dance if you want, I don't care) and you'll be fast enough to pull off 1 ULT on the first turn. If you're clearing the First Stage with one ULT, it's no problem at all. If you aren't clearing it in one ULT then this team setup doesn't work. The remaining cycles, you can just play it how you like. Ideally you want to keep Robin's ULT for the second phase. It's all fun in games to mess around with team ideas. Of course, if your CRIT isn't already 80/180 you can't pull this shit off with Acheron. That is to say, relics are important in team building as well. Essentially a 0 Cycle at that point and it's achievable if you saved up enough jades to get 4 Limited 5-Star Units.
@@generalsaverngild holy fuck why are you getting so defensive over this triple premium harmony team that steals three of the best supports from your 2nd half.
He is good for e0-2 acheron ye. But for fellow E6 Acheron havers, unless u get him e1s1, it's not worth to get him over invested Pela. But in the end e2s1 Sparkle + e1s1 Jiao is the way
Well Topaz isn’t in a hypercarry Ratio team, so it’d most likely be Pela. He might replace E0S0 Topaz in the FUA team w/ Ratio though, but I’ve only tested E1S1 Topaz.
3:35 What does "Break is kinda like the Dendro of the game" mean? I didn't play Genshin past the first 6-8 months, so I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing
hsr: get 600% break effect to deal big damage no skill or thinking needed genshin: get 1000 Elemental Mastery to deal big damage no skill or thinking needed
Yo, Iyo! I have E1 S1 Black Swan (F2P, by the way), and I personally believe in the "lesbian Gex team" (Acheron x Black Swan). Would getting JQ at E0 work better than using another Harmony or Nihility? I have E2 S1 Mei (F2P, by the way, lmao... I listen a lot to your advice) but no other decent Harmony characters like Robin or Sparkle. So my question is: would this team be universally better than other options? E0 S0 (I'm planning to get her weapon on the rerun and maybe E1 if I'm lucky) Acheron, Black Swan, JQ, and Fu Xuan?
I have no clue if Iyo will see your comment so far down the list but I'm gonna respond in case he doesn't. I use the Acheron & Black Swan team as well and I believe that Pela should be enough to fulfill your E1 S1 Black Swan. It definitely would work better if you had Jiaoqiu but you should take note that Black Swan makes everyone do more damage... So you should pull for Jiaoqiu since Black Swan enables a DoTcheron team to be more efficient. Since you have E2 S1 Ruan Mei, then slapping her on your "Lesbian Gex Team" will indeed be as powerful as (if not more than) Jiaoqiu. Don't sleep on All-Type RES Penetration because you can have a total of 70% All-Type RES Penetration if you run Acheron, Black Swan, Ruan Mei. Keep in mind, All-Type RES Penetration is a separate multiplier. It's essentially fighting an enemy that is really weak to all elements by 70%. You can even include Jiaoqiu and you'll have no troubles in MoC for the next couple patches. Your team of Acheron, Black Swan, Jiaoqiu & Fu Xuan is okay. If you're running into CRIT Rate issues the it's okay to have Fu Xuan. Otherwise, swap her out for someone like Aventurine or Ruan Mei. Adventurine gives free CRIT DMG with his ULT and he can apply a debuff unlike Fu Xuan. Ruan Mei works in a similar fashion to Welt... she delays the inevitable. She also plants debuff which is active through her ULT. Although you'll be hitting over 600k+ with Acheron, Black Swan, Ruan Mei & JIaoqiu so you won't need a sustain if you simply kill them before the cycle ends.
@@generalsaverngild thanks a bunch Although my Mei is perma stuck with firefly that's why I didn't add her to the comp I was only considering the other 4
Unrelated to de video but i hope that as time goes on, this game becomes more "tecnical" I understand that people will like the FF braind**d playstyle of smashing everythin but i would like to reach a point of more characters having "tecnical" moves, just like Boothill or Yunli, but even further developed, i like playing the game and if we only play it every 1 month/introduce X hard new gamemode every X months i like it to be the best experience as posible, same with the enemies, i would like to think what he is gonna do and what i can do about it. Also i believe that for every new region, we get a new end game gamemode and SU upgrade so in 3.X we will get one and i hope they do this, ignore the Jades, this new gamemodes enables certain playstyles that never had been used before/they could just create a new gimmick and base the gamemode arround it, now erudition has a home and breaking hard also has a home. Imagine a mode were u need just to CC the enemy the logest as posible, or one where you need to protect something while you heal it and unnable the enemies etc, certain comps that now are trolling can become good. And watch out for the battle events because they are probably testing stuff.
My main gripe with jiaoqiu is that he cannot heal, at a dot main I was excited when I heard that there is a dot healer coming out and now to find out it's been removed really annoys me. I can understand that if he could heal on top of what he does he'd probably be very overpowered but with how it's going not many people want to pull for him because of his design and he's a man I guess? Wouldn't hoyo benefit more from him being OP leading to more sales because of this. It just annoys me but I most likely will end up pulling.
Well then that can hurt sustain sales, and selling sustains is hard already since once an account has 2 high quality sustains you're kinda set. When a character is made, they gotta be careful they dont extend over there role too much. A character being too weak is a problem, but so is a character being too good as well. And lets keep it real. Many dont wanna pull him because they saving for more hype characters. That and people freak out when a character is nerfed
The problem with having a Nihility healer is that it's a free Acheron E2. And those who have E2 can now run two harmony units with Acheron, making Acheron stronger than ever.
Personally I just don't like his character and so even though there are several teams I could use him for that would bolster my account, he is an absolute skip for me. This whole patch has been an absolute skip for me, because Yunli I also didn't like as a character. I'll keep my E5 Clara as my counter queen, and I'll keep my E2 Black Swan as my main Nihility support for DoT and Acheron teams. At least next patch has some characters I'm hyped for
I genuinely dont get the doom posting hes had. Oh he doesn't heal? HE NEVER DID! People saw his character description, put 2 and 2 together and got 9. There was absolutely never healing in his leaked kit and its seriously annoying when people keep bringing it up. Is it dumb to have a "healer" with no healing capability? Yes, Yes it is. But he never did in any stages of his beta. They didn't "take it out", it was never in there in the first place. He makes E0S1 Acheron clear MOC the same as Acheron E2S1 with Sparkle does. Then even more damage reduction with his cone. Honestly think this dude is going to end up in a higher tier later on than his release. Giving a constant 35% damage increase as well as an additional 15% ultimate damage WITHOUT his 24 odd percent damage increase from his cone is mental. There's no-none else in the game that can do that.
I can EASILY see him being powercrept if Vulnerability is the only thing he offers. He looks like an NPC too and will probably get powercrept by someone else who not only adds Vulnerability but something else as a mechanic.
The game is way past that point of only looking at one singular thing. Yes, in terms of amp, he only offers vulnerability but very important to know he has QOL, a lot of consistency and incredible uptime on his debuffs which is something that no debuffer in the game currently has. I don't believe he is broken by any means, but just by the nature of being a debuffer, something that's not extremely common, specially AOE Vulnerability debuffs which are even less common, he inherently has good pull value overall and excellent value if you play Acheron. Just as a note, the last limited non dot debuffer we got was Silver Wolf. And even if she isn't the greatest now, her and Pela still see great usage due to being debuffers. He's already going to be the best debuffer in PF and most units are not even best at anything.
@@mr.awesome519 Hes also a DOT dps both him and Black Swan cleared in the same number of cycles somehow even though he doesn't have blast DOTs like Black Swan. If we get another detonator for DOT other than Kafka we could possibly run two DOT teams but right now it seem like they are not really trying to support DOT.
Brother, people said that power creep was going to happen to Silver Wolf... look where that turned out. Vulnerability is not the only thing Jiaoqiu offers, he can in fact roast people who have no clue that 15% ULT DMG exists in his kit. That's not gonna happen anytime soon. How long has it been since another Vulnerability debuffer came out... since Welt appeared and Guinaifen showed up. That was in 1.0+ and it's not gonna happen until 3.0. We're not sure as well so I'm taking an educated guess here.
14:43 Ofc Gui is gonna feel worse compared to Jiaoqiu because he is a 5 star version of her. They just straight ripped her moveset and gave it to Jiaoqiu but tweaked it so that he can apply debuffs better with higher multipliers. He is lazily designed and you can’t change my mind. Also, yes, I am Jiaoqiu’s #1 hater.
@@justblue576 The discussion of whether or not Jiaoqiu is good veered off into a whole nother topic cuz unc was yapping too much, and I put a timestamp if that wasn’t obvious I’m not a meta slave and others aren’t too, so if a new character’s kit is just gonna be a copy and paste then ofc I’d complain New characters with an eerily similar kit and playstyle comparable to old characters is just gonna put HSR in a sorry ass state which sucks so it does matter
Ah yes another silverwolf when he amps aoe. Please stop suggesting people to pull for silverwolf, she has not aged well at all. You should tell people to pull actual good units with a platform like yours
@@ccstarrparkbrawlstars1913 You either don’t know the value of Silver or believe something silly like only tier 0 units are “actual good units”. Silver is one of the characters that has aged phenomenally over time. Going from S+ -> A -> S (current) with a projection to climb to the top of that tier is not a “bad unit” at all.
There's a part in the video that mentions the Dr. Ratio & ultimate DMG thing. This video was recorded before yesterday's video so thanks to a few of y'all, it was already answered that Dr. Ratio's FUAs from the Ultimate specifically do NOT count for ULT DMG. Big unfort, but JackQHoe gives Ratio all 3 debuffs on his own, which is a big plus. Definitely some Silver Wolf vibes!
i personally hate hypercarry because it's such a pain in the ass to build these team, i really like Kafka-DoT, Firefly / Boothill - Superbreak because they are relative easy to build and accessible, at least in my opinio, i still feel like i need Jq and Blackswan to make my DoT / Acheron team perfect
I don’t wanna be that guy but if you wanna shout out the math guys you should check out hunterkee. Isummon has made some pretty egregious math mistakes before that I still don’t think he ever fixed (check out the Firefly LC calc vid. Using his own numbers the conclusion makes no sense. It’s somehow 12/10 = ~1.30%).
@@bamboozled_again It's not even a pain in the ass to build hypercarry teams. I have 7 hypercarries on my account. They all share the same relics (Except for Blade). You really don't need to waste your time farming a full-set for your other characters if you already have a 70/200 CRIT set. It's pretty damn easy to build a 4-Piece Rainbow in my opinion. It saves you 800+ cavern runs. Just get Jiaoqiu and run Acheron, Ruan Mei & Robin with him. You won't need a sustain if they're all dead.
Jiaoqiu provides only two debuffs at E0S0.
I’m glad you still are making videos and being yourself bro, we all make mistakes, don’t let the hate effect you man
Appreciate you and definitely gotta keep at it. Gonna try some new things, but I read a quote last month that told me "you have to fall so that you can rise to greatness" or something like that. It was good to read in the moment.
@@Iyoverse it’s a W quote and no problem, you are going to continue to get better, I have high hopes for you.
He negative edged all over the haters
@@Kyenetic lmao
@@Iyoverse Ey bro, at the end of the day, we who come back, come back for the C'hantent. Less drama, more quality. You just gotta catch yourself when you're putting out too much chaf and focus on your strong suits. To me you bring out the attitude of still finding the strength of each character despite all doomposters, trying to squeeze that 90k Yanqing plays even when it's tough.
People severely underrate the supportive nihility characters. Pela was pretty underrated until Dr. Ratio came out, and she's finally gotten respect since then. Silver Wolf has been underrated for a very long time and finally with Acheron some people care about her, but there's still people who complain about the fact that she's ST. Guinaifen was seen as only a DoT character until Ratio. Black Swan is still mostly seen as only DoT, even though she has other supportive purposes. It's not at all surprising that we keep seeing people act like Acheron or bust for Jiaoqiu.
People need to get into their heads that nihility is a path with a variety of characters. We have dps. We have DoT. Some of them can be built as great break characters. We have support. And most of them can be used for multiple reasons. It's not pigeon-holed into one niche.
Severely underrated Nihility supports aren't used in the community as often because there aren't a lot of people who have the opportunity to build them. F2Ps particularly run into problems like this which is the majority of HSR players. That is to say, they are underrated for a reason.
Everyone knew that Pela would pop off, they just didn't have the relics back then to do so. Respect is a strong word to use for Pela, I'd say that she had some spotlight but it's not enough to harbor any respect over a character.
Silver Wolf has always been the best option for versatile teams. It's just that no one is posting frequent videos or talking about her since they don't care to talk about the game. I could care less if people think that a character is Single-Target. If you're having trouble clearing with a Single-Target unit then your DMG/SPD isn't high enough. Farm caverns more efficiently.
Guinaifen is in the back with Amber. She is the walking definition of what an "Amber" looks like. She's only being used for a niche thing so I'd keep her out of team comps unless your Guinaifen has some god-tier stats. I have her built to Lvl 80 myself and she's better off not being used until another vulnerability enabler comes out. She's like Blade... her kit came out too early and she's not ready for Vulnerability as a new meta/archetype. Jiaoqiu would flat out replace her so don't even bother putting them on the same team.
Black Swan is one of the most useful Nihility characters in the game. She has high consistent DoTs and enables units like Pela to stack DEF shredding to higher levels. If it wasn't for her DEF shredding, universal vulnerability (on enemy turns) and her universal DoTs she'd be a 5-Star copy of Sampo. That is to say, she is a great 5-Star to get.
Well if you don't have a good Nihility character other than Pela for Acheron... it's essentially bust or move on at that point. You really should strive for two good nihility debuffers for Acheron. People who skipped Silver Wolf & Black Swan may be apart of the "people" you're talking about. We've all seen what Nihility can do, and it started from Destruction first. Might just be you who is being bothered by others' remarks but I think I've definitely cleared up what you didn't already say here.
@@generalsaverngild I'd say being relevant in nearly every possible comp since 1.0 puts respect on Pela's back. She an OG at this point.
@@TeamSakuraKC Tbh I think a lot of ppl though SW was broken but as acheron, Boothill and firefly came out and now fei xiao with her ult is when SW started falling off especially when Pela has also 40% def shred aoe (idk how much SW has)
Am sure she is great but mostly for casuals and not so for people that eventually get all elements
i personal think jq is gonna rise up as more characters come up. having aoe vulnerability and increaed ulitmate damage is insanely valuable. not to mention being able to 3 turn ult.
jq has insane value in my opinion but thats just me, even if you dont have acheron because a lot of characters do have their damage locked behind their ultimate not just acheron
seele, argenti, feixiao, yunli, acheron (obv) etc.
if were gonna keep getting ultimate damage based characters then hes one of those characters that will have insane value in the future unlike silver (sadly)
i still think silvers good but if you want good defense reducing capabilities, jiaqiio is prolly better in that category
him being good for argenti only really matters in pf, I don't think jiaoqiu will be able to buff argenti enough for him to matter in other modes
To me, he is a unit you get on a rerun
Especially until I see more units he can synergize with
For sure. I plan to pull for Robin so I'm saving my pulls for later.
@@theoDSPwelp I hope your rdy she is leaked to rerun in part 1 of next parch...
@theoDSP we all know that after giving us a rest patch, they are going to activate the jade vacuum these next patches
@@ibrahimkouidri634 I'm prepared to open my wallet so its fine. Lets hope that my luck is good just like when I was pulling for HuoHuo; I won 50/50 and got her signature LC in the first 4 pulls!
@@theoDSP you and me both
They butchered Silverwolf in Apocalyptic Shadow.
All the bosses are considered to have NO weaknesses. All the weaknesses they have are considered to be ordinary Implant, meaning that it is *IMPOSSIBLE* to guarantee the Implant that you want outside of Mono Quantum. Even more so when the mode heavily incentivizes breaking the enemy's weakness in the first place.
That makes no sense to me as well. That's what the girl shines best, single target. And they went and made her gimmick pretty much irrelevant on the one game mode where she had no downsides
I don't get it. So mono Quantum will guarantee quantum implant but anything else wont? How?
@bozmak4016 say you have imaginary unit and quantum unit and enemy doesnt have either of thoae weaknesses. The implant would be a 5050.
@@ColninjaPlaysMC yeah and? Isn't that how Silverwolf E works? It's RNG unless you are mono Quantum.
@@ColninjaPlaysMC are you saying that if enemy has a wind, fire, and imaginary weakness and i have a wind , fire and imaginary unit alongwith Silverwolf which is quantum, this can also guarantee Quantum? So it depends on enemy weakness too?
I have been saving and pre farming for him. I do have E2 Acheron with her LC. Want her team to be the best it can be. Plus I love his design…. and I do have Sparkle.
Hi mister iyo
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@@Delkagu hi!
Moon!!
This guy is gonna be the Ruan Mei when lots of people skipped her and were praying for a fast rerun
@@kuvjason7236 that didn’t happen. Prior to release people were already comparing RM to sparkle and the consensus was sparkle was better. When she released it was agreed upon that RM was better. People didn’t skip for her, especially because the patch before was giga dead (huohuo and argenti) and after RM we got ratio for free
Ruan got crept by Robin already. I have all the harmonies btw
@@donew1thita11i dont think robin has benefits for dot, and can help teammates break efficiency though. Dumb comparison
@@gool5586 she is better dot it’s proven in multiple show cases bruh. Dot characters want attk% and that action advance is huge
Either way she clears expect break it’s just the faxs I used to be a Ruan glazer
I think ppl are underestimating JQ because of his current teams, but on paper I think he is going to be very strong for the 3.x teams, especially if a new mechanic comes up, which may like Vuln a lot
3.x seems like it’s going to focus on unreleased archetypes. It’s doubtful he’ll have much of a position on completely new teams.
bro is gambling more than Aventurine, is the same that i say that Arlan is getting a 5 harmony that will make him meta
@@temmie_jpng2381 You ain't ready for Blade's signature 5-Star Harmony support... Arlan ain't getting one until 5.0 bro...
If anything 3.0 is Summons
sadly ratio's FUA does not count as ultimate damage, though ratio still values jiaoqiu as a great debuffer in hypercarry
I think its highly likely we'll get better units for Ratio in the future. We want to really invest in that FuA or debuffing, and he doesn't actually provide that many debuffs compared to other Nihility and has 0 FuA (which is significant b/c FuA teams chain FuA's off each other for exponential growth).
He can be used in any team, but he's going to be replaced fairly quickly in a FuA team - just need a harmony or nihility unit with FuA's in their kit and he's out.
jiaoqiu is surprisingly amazing for ratio, being as good as topaz e1s1 (even at e0)
@@literallyjiaoqiu How so? He doesn't even provide 3 debuffs @ E0S0? Pela can literally provide them by herself with her technique+Ult+Skill.
But Jiaoqiu is a good replacement for FuA team that didn't have Topaz
I haven't touched Star Rail since Sunday tried to explain the concept of "weekends" to me & my interest in the narrative kinda evaporated but I've been looking for an excuse to try to get back into it. Maybe Jiaoqiu will do it for me. My Acheron team could definitely use a mixup
Signature Shaoji moment! Reminds me of when he spent half a story arc rambling about "why do birds fly" and it turned out the answer was "who tf cares"
I feel like we need more attention on the robin + gallagher with qpq combo, it's kind of insane even for cycles longer than 0-1 cycles, better for hypercarry
I want him for my acheron as a lover of foxes and a husbando collector, but at the same time Ive wanted Sunday from the moment i saw his chibi introduce the penacony cast in the 1.6 live stream and I will get Sunday no matter what it takes i love him, i love his character i love his story and background and whole philosophy i am well and truly obsessed with him lol
Anyon else can wait for thier reruns
i heard sunday will only come 2.7, so unless ur set on getting all his eidolons, i say pull for jiaoqiu and after that save til sunday (thats what ill do)
@@literallyjiaoqiu i also want aventurine >.< i currently have around 150 or so tickets and zero pity since i got e1 Firefly
I understand hes good. But honestly i simply dont have the jades as a f2p. Ive only got 115 pulls and a dream and i want B.S and Robin. So massive skip for me. I really wanted sparkle too. (I main ratio and acheron)
Same :( I'll only pull sparkle lc and save everything for E0S1 robin
Welp RIP you then lol JQ and Sparkle being next week and Kafka, BS and Robin leaked for part one of 2.5
Same, I only have 120 pulls, I want JQ for my Acheron but also need Kafka since I only have Black Swan. And there is also Robin which I also want for universal buff so I guess I'm screwed.
@foggyfrog so Kafka and Robin will be your priority. For me It's B.S and Robin
Wishing you luck on your pulls. I have a guarantee at least. (Lost my 50/50 to welt so not actually a loss)
@@RidhaaWilliams-c3m I am honestly still unsure who will be the priority, since I love Acheron and her playstyle while also loving DoT and all the characters in it. But Robin is way too fun and strong, the problem is my teams are Break Firefly & Boothill and Acheron+BS so I don't really need her.
Good luck to both of us as well, may we win all our 50/50s
I think the character has very good longevity but is not going to be a crazy meta 5star that changes your account.
If you have Robin or Ruan Mei, he's not going to change anything. But hey, a year down the road he'll still provide the debuffs you expect a nihility unit to provide. Unlike some other units (Blade), he should be useful forever. He'll just never be meta or super hype - his kit doesn't offer that. If he was, we would see this in showcases, and we're not.
The only potential exception is if you get his E2. I think that's the highest multiplier of any DoT in the game at like 480% or so. Popping that with units like Kafka could be insane - I haven't seen like any showcases with him in a DoT setup at E2 though.
Others saying JQ E2 for dotTeam is same Ruan Mei E6
His kit looks good, but I am going to wait and see the 2.5 reruns to see if I am going to pull for him or not
Break is not the dendro of hsr, break is definitely the cryo and it has all the halmarks of it being a flash in the pan before more bar lock mechanics get introduced.
Ooooh this is an interesting one. Please tell me more so I have extra knowledge on this.
Does that mean firefly is ayaka, cause that kind of checks.
@@ATHOS_of_INDEX It's EXACTLY who she reminds me of and how they hyped up melt and there was a lot of enemies in spiral abyss for a minute that were weak to it...Just like the break meta we are currently seeing.
The only way break meta dies is if every enemy hides their weakness.
@@mogalixir or bar lock becomes a more common thing , or implant immunity/resist gets introduced, etc. if something becomes too good they can and will introduce stuff to prevent people from getting too comfortable with their teams. They did it with the freeze meta, they can do it again if break gets out of hand.
Took your advice on completing a team vs getting random characters i like..you were not wrong. Jiaoqui definitely boosted my team to new heights. Keep up the good work brotha
Is that my GOAT making a new video hold up gotta hit that like and comment for algorithm
Negative edging my way to that like button. Love ya HSR vids Iyo. I'll def be pulling his LC for Black Swan in the future.
Is there going to be a video or a part of a future video talking about his value for e2 acheron? I've been on the fence for a while about him just because of that e2 acheron factor.
I can make it, but to be honest she doesn’t need him if Acheron is E2. She’s already OD, but Jack will be her (current) strongest debuffer period. She’ll love him, but if you want to save jades it’s a good decision to make.
@@Iyoverse thank you for the input! I've always found your takes the most reliable, especially long-term, for hoyo games.
@@Iyoversebruh thank god actually, because i was conflicted + people kept on saying ill lose on lots of dmg if i dont get him for my e2 acheron
Plus i think im fine with my fast SW she has so much actions/debuffs that i don’t worry much
I would've pulled for Silver Wolf if I saved up enough for her first and second rerun... Same issue with Jiaoqiu. If I had enough to get him and the next character in-line, then I would've done so. I want Feixiao and if I can't win the 50/50, I'll get Robin. I'm just hoping that Silver Wolf/Jiaoqiu rerun doesn't come with Sparkle's or another character I like. I've been using Acheron, Black Swan, Pela & Gallagher/Luocha so I have no problem ULTing every turn. I would love to zero cycle but that comes after I farm relics for my Acheron/Firefly team.
As an f2p what i've been doing is skipping everything and investing vertically ie rn I have e1 acheron s1 I have firefly e1 rm e1 and will probably pull lingsha e1 what I hope by doing this is making those teams last as long as possible so I can pull for the characters I like and not give a flying fuck about meta for a while, I feel this is the real benefit of investing vertically
I think you'd eliminate a lot of the negative noise if you stop using statements like "moving away from X" and embrace the "enabling Y, Z, etc'". Yes, the game is "pushing" certain comps but you could also say it's "providing" since FuA and Dual dps existed since 1.0. They are just better now with new options for them
I say stuff like Jingliu fell off all the time and I don't give a single a damn if it pisses people off. Negative noise can be cancelled by removing them from your sights. We're moving away from old DPS and it's better to just move to another area of interested than to stay dedicated to one thing. Saying that a character fell off is the same concept as moving away from something. It's how life works. We should be embracing new concepts while utilizing and improving on the old ones. No matter what I say, I'm still a Blade main.
He'd definitely move away from negative noise if he learned to edit himself more. But it don't really matter. Iyo's a yapper and most of his content is just for yapping. It appeals to specific people and sometimes I like to hear some yappin.
It kinda reminds me of WuWa. Certain chars may use their ultimate but the attacks they use in their ultimate aren't necessarily considered "ultimate" dmg. I like how HSR is implementing this now.
9:03 I've also noticed this. I have a E1S1 Acheron and E0S1 Robin. In all my testing - Pela + Robin + Trend always performs better than 2 nihility.
The 100% uptime really intices me
TBH i was sleeping on Jiaoqiu before seeing the calcs showing that the dmg increase of his debuffs (not counting the ultimate dmg), even without his LC is actually better than Pela's, and by a decent margin aswell. Also Silver Wolf literally carried me through this last AS, as my Acheron (E0S0) just wasn't doing enough dmg to Kafka, so i changed into my Hypercarry Dr.Ratio team (With SW, Sparkle and E0S1 Aventurine) and the dmg was simply insane. So yea, SW is still one of the best characters in the game.
super follow up is gonna be insane
Honestly, I am not sure if I want to pull for Jiaoqiu right now. My two favorite teams I have are my Acheron (E0S1) team and Kafka Swan team. I already have E1 Ruan Mei and if the leaks are true about the rerun banners of next patch. I feel kinda screwed as I wanted to get E1 on my Robin and my Black Swan. (I also wanted E1 on Kafka but I feel like this can wait). I also have a build Himeko with which I love to use RM alongside Herta or in Super Break team, so that's why I wanted to get E1 on my Robin as both my DOT team and Acheron team can use her if RM is already taken. As for E1 Black Swan, it's pretty self-explanatory.
I have no idea who to go for next. My account is missing Wind and Lightning DPS. I have great support characters, Ruan Mei, Robin, Sparkle, Huohuo, Fu Xian, Aventurine, Luocha, Bronya. Just stuck on damage dealers and team comp
@@ericg8821 same tbh, i was initially planning for Kafka but i feel like Feixiao would be more valuable considering i have a bunch of fua units and zero dot units (not planning on pulling black swan)
Pull for the upcoming wind DPS. Her best team will have both Aventurine (esp if S1) and Robin. Then probably save for Acheron rerun.
I absolutely LOVE The Scarlet Nexus OST in the background, Such a underated game and one of my favorites.
Deadass haven't used SW in like 2 months...
Hey, nice video! Need a word of advice. I have E5S1 Acheron and now running her with Bronya E1S1 + Pela and Gala. I'm planning to get JQ E0 at least, but struggle with decision on what to pull next, his S1? Maybe Sparkle E0S0 or E0S1 ? (no way I get E2 for her sadly) And there is starting to appear a lot of videos saying Robins is BiS now for this team and maybe I should skip Sparkle for Robin? Would be glad to hear your opinion.
Sparkle is better but only if you can get 168 speed on wind set and give her an S5 DDD.
Otherwise go for Robin. Jiaoqiu would be better for Acheron (not by much though, at least over sweat Pela + Robin) but for your whole account high investment Robin is definitely better (e2s1 is really good)
where are the comments at bro 😭😭😭
The video just dropped! LOL Y'all gotta get the comment wars started first and theeeeeen we'll see a lot of action. xD
Me personally, I’m not 100% sure on whether I will pull or not, as of right now imma wait for the livestream, I want feixaio, but like if a character I love and have been waiting for for a while, then I skip, if it’s someone I’m not interested in or already have and don’t need lc or eidolons for, then I pull
7:26 no pun intended
I'm gonna gatekeep his rerun so hard it's gonna be like Cerberus, lmao.
I'm definitely keeping an eye out for his rerun. Unfortunately I've got a limited amount of jades and they're for Fei and Screwllum 😔
My issue with gui is that she has break traces but nothing else in her kit resonates with break (save for the burn damage) in my opinion. Yeah you can make it work but you could also make it work with asta hook or gallagher.
What about his synergy with Dr ratio?
his synergy with ratio is amazing, e0 jiaoqiu is as good as e1s1 topaz for ratio team
Wiseman’s folly does not count as ultimate damage
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I have a full follow up roster but I just don't like the playstyle.
I switch between Kafka-Swan Acheron and Ruan-HTB Firefly. Jacky should fit in pretty well with my Acheron comps and actually give me a reason to run my SW again for massive def-vuln shred.
Also keep posting man. You did no wrong.
I have a guaranteed, I really want him for my Acheron
if Jiaoqiu was a sexy fox girl, then maybe i would actually pull for them.
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Man I am early. Don't roast my man for no reason, listen to what he has to say. Just wanted to get this out there. He's cooking a lot
Acheron has been compared to FF a lot lately, especially after Prydwen dropped her a spot in AS recently.
Keep this in mind; FF had her premium team on release, which includes another limited character; Ruan Mei. JQ is looking to be Acheron's premium support.
So going forward, if we're being fair, we'll either compare E0/S0 Acheron and FF without their premium supports _(RM and JQ)_ or we'll compare them with them.
Dawg, it'll be Feixiao on the tierlist once she comes out. We'll have the holy trinity of DPS legends. You can still use Ruan Mei with Acheron... just gotta make sure Acheron hits over 600k+ per ULT. I did a test with Acheron, Ruan Mei, Yukong & Bronya earlier and I found that Acheron is better off with full supports. If we assume that we can place Acheron, Ruan Mei, Sparkle & Robin on the same team, you won't even need Jiaoqiu. The PP girls are too strong together.
@@generalsaverngild Acheron with no debuffers to trigger her Ultimate, and a 160% damage loss from no Nihility characters. You're cooking.
@@generalsaverngildgood luck with that ult uptime
@@yanuwwuu You guys can do what you want, I could care less. Acheron enters battle with 5 Crimson Knots if you use her Technique. When you open battle, you can push forward Acheron with Sparkle and she'll get 6 Stacks (7 If you have her Signature Lightcone). You just have do this three more times, break an enemy or apply Ruan Mei's ULT debuff and that's pretty easy to do. Your Robin can also advance your action forward so there's no problem here. She acts as the backup Nihility.
Run Sparkle with 160+ SPD (Use Dance, Dance, Dance if you want, I don't care) and you'll be fast enough to pull off 1 ULT on the first turn. If you're clearing the First Stage with one ULT, it's no problem at all. If you aren't clearing it in one ULT then this team setup doesn't work. The remaining cycles, you can just play it how you like. Ideally you want to keep Robin's ULT for the second phase. It's all fun in games to mess around with team ideas. Of course, if your CRIT isn't already 80/180 you can't pull this shit off with Acheron. That is to say, relics are important in team building as well. Essentially a 0 Cycle at that point and it's achievable if you saved up enough jades to get 4 Limited 5-Star Units.
@@generalsaverngild holy fuck why are you getting so defensive over this triple premium harmony team that steals three of the best supports from your 2nd half.
but what if Robin is in the banner, need her for my jade herta so that my other half of pf can be as bad as possible but i can still get the 60k
Pls make a vid about hunt march,, 😩😩
He is good for e0-2 acheron ye. But for fellow E6 Acheron havers, unless u get him e1s1, it's not worth to get him over invested Pela. But in the end e2s1 Sparkle + e1s1 Jiao is the way
Thats what I will be doing
I assume he would replace topaz in a hyper carry ratio team or even Pela?
Well Topaz isn’t in a hypercarry Ratio team, so it’d most likely be Pela. He might replace E0S0 Topaz in the FUA team w/ Ratio though, but I’ve only tested E1S1 Topaz.
Thx bro
All good but how about negative edge?
So is Jiaoqiu the new kazuha of star rail? 😂
its even funnier when you realize they have the same english va
3:35 What does "Break is kinda like the Dendro of the game" mean? I didn't play Genshin past the first 6-8 months, so I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing
@@maaoruzketo good thing
@@abhiimanyo thank you for that.
hsr: get 600% break effect to deal big damage no skill or thinking needed
genshin: get 1000 Elemental Mastery to deal big damage no skill or thinking needed
Yo what song was playing at that 30 second mark? Pretty sure it's a Tekken song but I might be wrong
I'll be definitely goober canceling this new banner. Gotta skibidi switch those f2p pulls for Feixiao.
I’m mad you called it a Skibidi switch. Lmfao
@@Iyoverse Jokes aside, love your content. Keep it up ;)
Yo, Iyo!
I have E1 S1 Black Swan (F2P, by the way), and I personally believe in the "lesbian Gex team" (Acheron x Black Swan). Would getting JQ at E0 work better than using another Harmony or Nihility?
I have E2 S1 Mei (F2P, by the way, lmao... I listen a lot to your advice) but no other decent Harmony characters like Robin or Sparkle.
So my question is: would this team be universally better than other options?
E0 S0 (I'm planning to get her weapon on the rerun and maybe E1 if I'm lucky) Acheron, Black Swan, JQ, and Fu Xuan?
Me while BS E0S0 and RM E1S1 ( i'm not F2P by the way)
@@XiasGaming i wanna say wajaja or womp womp buh that would be mean
so i hope you get them eventually
@@SenMid i'm not looking E1 since E1 RM in 1.6 , always E0 and few with S1.
I have no clue if Iyo will see your comment so far down the list but I'm gonna respond in case he doesn't.
I use the Acheron & Black Swan team as well and I believe that Pela should be enough to fulfill your E1 S1 Black Swan. It definitely would work better if you had Jiaoqiu but you should take note that Black Swan makes everyone do more damage... So you should pull for Jiaoqiu since Black Swan enables a DoTcheron team to be more efficient.
Since you have E2 S1 Ruan Mei, then slapping her on your "Lesbian Gex Team" will indeed be as powerful as (if not more than) Jiaoqiu. Don't sleep on All-Type RES Penetration because you can have a total of 70% All-Type RES Penetration if you run Acheron, Black Swan, Ruan Mei. Keep in mind, All-Type RES Penetration is a separate multiplier. It's essentially fighting an enemy that is really weak to all elements by 70%. You can even include Jiaoqiu and you'll have no troubles in MoC for the next couple patches.
Your team of Acheron, Black Swan, Jiaoqiu & Fu Xuan is okay. If you're running into CRIT Rate issues the it's okay to have Fu Xuan. Otherwise, swap her out for someone like Aventurine or Ruan Mei. Adventurine gives free CRIT DMG with his ULT and he can apply a debuff unlike Fu Xuan. Ruan Mei works in a similar fashion to Welt... she delays the inevitable. She also plants debuff which is active through her ULT. Although you'll be hitting over 600k+ with Acheron, Black Swan, Ruan Mei & JIaoqiu so you won't need a sustain if you simply kill them before the cycle ends.
@@generalsaverngild thanks a bunch
Although my Mei is perma stuck with firefly that's why I didn't add her to the comp
I was only considering the other 4
How do you feel about Ms. Ratburn?
Dbz music in the start slaps
Unrelated to de video but i hope that as time goes on, this game becomes more "tecnical" I understand that people will like the FF braind**d playstyle of smashing everythin but i would like to reach a point of more characters having "tecnical" moves, just like Boothill or Yunli, but even further developed, i like playing the game and if we only play it every 1 month/introduce X hard new gamemode every X months i like it to be the best experience as posible, same with the enemies, i would like to think what he is gonna do and what i can do about it.
Also i believe that for every new region, we get a new end game gamemode and SU upgrade so in 3.X we will get one and i hope they do this, ignore the Jades, this new gamemodes enables certain playstyles that never had been used before/they could just create a new gimmick and base the gamemode arround it, now erudition has a home and breaking hard also has a home.
Imagine a mode were u need just to CC the enemy the logest as posible, or one where you need to protect something while you heal it and unnable the enemies etc, certain comps that now are trolling can become good.
And watch out for the battle events because they are probably testing stuff.
Well I just pull characters to pull the characters. (I collect all)😊
My main gripe with jiaoqiu is that he cannot heal, at a dot main I was excited when I heard that there is a dot healer coming out and now to find out it's been removed really annoys me. I can understand that if he could heal on top of what he does he'd probably be very overpowered but with how it's going not many people want to pull for him because of his design and he's a man I guess? Wouldn't hoyo benefit more from him being OP leading to more sales because of this. It just annoys me but I most likely will end up pulling.
Well then that can hurt sustain sales, and selling sustains is hard already since once an account has 2 high quality sustains you're kinda set. When a character is made, they gotta be careful they dont extend over there role too much. A character being too weak is a problem, but so is a character being too good as well. And lets keep it real. Many dont wanna pull him because they saving for more hype characters. That and people freak out when a character is nerfed
The problem with having a Nihility healer is that it's a free Acheron E2. And those who have E2 can now run two harmony units with Acheron, making Acheron stronger than ever.
He cannot heal the wounds of allies but he can in fact heal the brain damage we have from arguing whether or not we should pull on his banner or not.
@@generalsaverngild this the best comment ive seen in a while
He is the "BAD TAKE IYO GUY" right?
Wtf did you capitalize all of that. Lmao
@@Iyoverse to highlight it
As someone with an E6S4 Acheron, I assumed Sparkle would be more useful for me than JQ, but I could be wrong
Can I introduce you to sister Robin? 👀
@@Iyoverse I was running Robin with my FuA team (Aventurine, Topaz, Clara) 🤔
E6 S4!!!!
While I can’t say which is more useful, but even with an “ f2p” lineup, ur still clearing all content in game, ITS AN E6, ALMOST S5!!!!!
IMO, acheron until E2S1 then jiaoqiu after
Lezzgoo 🫡🔥💪
Husbando > meta
amazing video, too bad the haters already got to it 😅
Other Iyo take?
If Jiaoqiu is still relevant in his rerun, then I'll consider getting him.
Thank you for your insight on him. For now, he's an easy skip.
Personally I just don't like his character and so even though there are several teams I could use him for that would bolster my account, he is an absolute skip for me. This whole patch has been an absolute skip for me, because Yunli I also didn't like as a character. I'll keep my E5 Clara as my counter queen, and I'll keep my E2 Black Swan as my main Nihility support for DoT and Acheron teams. At least next patch has some characters I'm hyped for
interesting!
🙋♂️ Here before the haters
I genuinely dont get the doom posting hes had. Oh he doesn't heal? HE NEVER DID! People saw his character description, put 2 and 2 together and got 9. There was absolutely never healing in his leaked kit and its seriously annoying when people keep bringing it up. Is it dumb to have a "healer" with no healing capability? Yes, Yes it is. But he never did in any stages of his beta. They didn't "take it out", it was never in there in the first place.
He makes E0S1 Acheron clear MOC the same as Acheron E2S1 with Sparkle does. Then even more damage reduction with his cone. Honestly think this dude is going to end up in a higher tier later on than his release. Giving a constant 35% damage increase as well as an additional 15% ultimate damage WITHOUT his 24 odd percent damage increase from his cone is mental. There's no-none else in the game that can do that.
I can EASILY see him being powercrept if Vulnerability is the only thing he offers. He looks like an NPC too and will probably get powercrept by someone else who not only adds Vulnerability but something else as a mechanic.
The game is way past that point of only looking at one singular thing. Yes, in terms of amp, he only offers vulnerability but very important to know he has QOL, a lot of consistency and incredible uptime on his debuffs which is something that no debuffer in the game currently has. I don't believe he is broken by any means, but just by the nature of being a debuffer, something that's not extremely common, specially AOE Vulnerability debuffs which are even less common, he inherently has good pull value overall and excellent value if you play Acheron.
Just as a note, the last limited non dot debuffer we got was Silver Wolf. And even if she isn't the greatest now, her and Pela still see great usage due to being debuffers. He's already going to be the best debuffer in PF and most units are not even best at anything.
clueless
@@mr.awesome519 Hes also a DOT dps both him and Black Swan cleared in the same number of cycles somehow even though he doesn't have blast DOTs like Black Swan. If we get another detonator for DOT other than Kafka we could possibly run two DOT teams but right now it seem like they are not really trying to support DOT.
I'm so glad i'm not clueless like you lol
Brother, people said that power creep was going to happen to Silver Wolf... look where that turned out. Vulnerability is not the only thing Jiaoqiu offers, he can in fact roast people who have no clue that 15% ULT DMG exists in his kit. That's not gonna happen anytime soon. How long has it been since another Vulnerability debuffer came out... since Welt appeared and Guinaifen showed up. That was in 1.0+ and it's not gonna happen until 3.0. We're not sure as well so I'm taking an educated guess here.
more like a 5 star pela
Man is a skip
14:43 Ofc Gui is gonna feel worse compared to Jiaoqiu because he is a 5 star version of her. They just straight ripped her moveset and gave it to Jiaoqiu but tweaked it so that he can apply debuffs better with higher multipliers. He is lazily designed and you can’t change my mind. Also, yes, I am Jiaoqiu’s #1 hater.
yeah, he its just like clara/yunli, he was made "better" in purpose, something just disgusting.....
Sparkle bronya, luka boothill, Clara Yunli, Gui jiaoqui
Ez copycat, ez kit
Does it matter anyway?
The discussion is about how good he is, whether his kit design is lazy or not doesn't matter
@@justblue576 The discussion of whether or not Jiaoqiu is good veered off into a whole nother topic cuz unc was yapping too much, and I put a timestamp if that wasn’t obvious
I’m not a meta slave and others aren’t too, so if a new character’s kit is just gonna be a copy and paste then ofc I’d complain
New characters with an eerily similar kit and playstyle comparable to old characters is just gonna put HSR in a sorry ass state which sucks so it does matter
45 sec noice
Sparkle better...
i just negative edged in here.XD
Jiaoqiu e0 is not worth it, only e1s1.
clueless
Friend hasn't seen a single showcase
Bait or mental r3tardation, call it
Ah yes another silverwolf when he amps aoe. Please stop suggesting people to pull for silverwolf, she has not aged well at all. You should tell people to pull actual good units with a platform like yours
@@ccstarrparkbrawlstars1913 You either don’t know the value of Silver or believe something silly like only tier 0 units are “actual good units”.
Silver is one of the characters that has aged phenomenally over time. Going from S+ -> A -> S (current) with a projection to climb to the top of that tier is not a “bad unit” at all.
bro should be called ego not iyo 💀 the "i'm always right" stuff is kinda annoying ngl...
Unfort. I’ll be wrong the next few times so I can reverse uno it.