LG G4 vs Samsung S95D | Best OLED TV? Real HDR Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
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How’s the HDR look? Upvote this comment if you want to see more, I’d love to hear your feedback on the HDR format on RUclips and where are you watching in HDR?
When running youtube HDR content, my G4 looks awesome. I know it depends on what settings are preferred per each picture mode using advanced settings personally, but the shadow details do appear to be better. Especially with nature scenes. I haven't tried throwing a disc into my UB820 just yet, im still rearranging my surround speakers, but I plan on it soon. My son said he noticed a huge difference with the P5 on the G4 compared to his A80J. I said, "Obviously. 😂 keep it coming, KG, thanks.
Looks good, represents HDR compariosons much better
I Love To Know Which Did You Choose For Personal Use Between ( Samsung S95D Or LG G4) The 2 This Year KG???
The only way it should be done is
This is awesome, like why isn't everyone doing this ?!
THANK YOU FOR RECORDING IN HDR
Would you do an other Bravia 9 vs. G4 comparison? I think it would be good to have more than the first video to build a opinion and it would interest a lot of people right now.
Btw. I really appreciate the wave diagram at the bottom. In generell the quality of the comparisons got better, keep it up!
HDR!!! Finally! Instant subscribe! Now we want to see them against B9 (one by one).
Happy to test out HDR so far so good looks great to me.
Nice to see videos in such high resolution. S90C owner. Would love to see better procesors on qd-oleds from samsung , yes they are choppy.
Really great comparison. It looks really close on RUclips, does it look this close in person? What are the exact settings you used, did you just set TVs in filmmaker mode or were there some tweaks to get the best out of them without any major calibration?
Yup just filmmaker mode out of the box but I used content that will let it show its strengths in those mode, FMM and movie mode get bad reputations but they actually are very capable modes closest thing to reference without getting real calibration done. For those that prefer a cooler more saturated look the standard modes on these TVs are solid for that.
Hey KG great video thanks for the comparison. Is it possible to fix either the magenta or green tint on either sets with calibration? I know you said it's not too bad in person but I think seeing magenta or green whites would personally bother me a lot. I'm trying to decide on my next 65". Should I be looking at the Bravia 9 instead?
LG G4 is sharper and more detailed than Samsung, I lived to see this, Samsung has always been sharper and more detailed than LG and it seems that now LG has changed the game
KG, with S95D set to HDR BASIC and Bt2020 while gaming , do you notice a meaningful difference with G4 on auto color?
(Only regarding color gamut)
Yes because bt2020 does need some tweaking in game mode, Classy’s S90C settings would be a good starting point for this I’ll have to ask him if anything changed for tweaking that this year.
Got confused at the beginning thinking it was a comparison between two Samsung TVs because of the Samsung logo on the demo 😂😂
@TechWithKG How would you compare the Sharpness and Clarity from the G4 to the Sony A95L?
G4 is a bit sharper it leans towards being over sharpened. I can see ringing on plate patterns
Thanks for the comparison, KG! Could you maybe upload a combined video with direct captures from those gaming scenes in HDR, so that we can use it in local stores to look at those scenes on the TVs ourselves of which you say that they look better on the QD-OLED?
I don't have a HDR capture card to capture direct feed from a game console or else I totally would, theres a few channels on youtube with HDR gaming clips you could probably find a few that way.
Love seeing you mastering your content in HDR KG! Keep that up, and I hope this will be the standard among the TV/monitor reviewers in the industry
I have 55G4, everything is better with G4 but I dont like panel, uniformity is not the best, too many vertical bars on gray scale, pink tinting on white images, and when you play RDR2 open map and try panning camera left to right and backwards, I see bars and tinting awful... Only I like qd oled is uniformity almost perfect, I wish LG make tvs with qd oled panels, that would be perfect combination 😊👌
S95D better with orange and yellow colors, otherwise G4 significantly brighter esp. blue and white as one would expect. I have S95D and the picture quality is stunning with good source materials. Given the price difference ($2250/€2100 for 55” and give away HW-S700D soundbar vs. LG $2570/€2400) at the time of purchase zero regrets for the decision. Only big minus for Samsung for no DTS passthrough.
Really good insights on the QD technology 👍 If only QD had an 83” option.
That’s what I’m holding out for, is an 83” Sony QDOLED-A95L. hopefully that’ll b out soon; if so I’ll pull the trigger immediately and get one.
Thank you, KG. This is an honest assessment that is clearly unbiased.
I appreciate you
No reason for me to favor either side
I can’t decide whether to get an 83” G4 on Black Friday or wait until next year and see if QDOLED finally comes in 83”…coming from an 83” C1
we need 85 or 88 '' as QD OLED !!!!!!! not shitty only 6 more 83 " 🤢
There was a doubt which s90d were woled and which were qdoled. Id like to see a comparative between these two of the same brand to see if theres a real difference.
When there IS a difference, it's the color. QD-OLED is just better
Not this TV in a lit environment.the g4 color pops more than the faded s95d qd OLED
Biggest difference is the color-fringing of the triangular subpixel layout on the QD-OLED that you will notice if you sit somewhat close to your TV for gaming. Depends on your personal use case but it‘s an instant dealbreaker for me and I‘m glad that LG finally got the game mode right and added 144 Hz.
@@ledooni lol. I sit very close in front of my 77-inch S95D. No problems in this regard. Some people really conjure up problems lol. In such a case, my advice is not to buy any TV at all. Jesus. Third generation QD-OLED and the color fringing has turned out to be an absolute non-issue. QD-OLED's color volume and gamut is superior, those who prefer to get hung up on non-issues and go with the inferior WOLED panel instead - go ahead. I will never understand.
@@truthx7 woled will never beat qd-oled for colour pop its oled tech
its old tech
I also can see clearly from your gaming footage 10:38 the typical green tinted yellow color from WOLED 🤢🤮🤮 only QD-OLED can deliver proper yellow tones.
Is it true what that quantum tv fella said about your videos being "not being done right"? Idk how any of this whole "calibration" thing works lol
No he’s just salty I get more clicks than him even though he’s got a larger channel 😂 . You don’t understand calibration? I wouldn’t worry about it neither does he.
Quantum loves to hear himself talk. Someone could give him an objective 3 page response on why the G4 is better and he would still insult the person and say he’s right and they’re wrong.
That guy is a serious narcissist.
If it was not matte coating I would choose s95d. The color is another level
Is there a way fornyou to compare a95l and g4
some time ago I wanted to change my 77g2 to 77g4 and the more I thought about it, the more I thought about it. In the final, reason won and I decided to stay on g2, at least until g5 comes out, and possibly g6. 📺 I use it 90% for games on PS5.
Why is the S95D so blurry @ 3:30? The folks walking barely have detail vs the G4, feels like something's wrong with the motion.
Thank you for compensation
curious to see what samsung will do next yeaf many actually like the s95d for the matte finish for there needs and many dont so if sales arent to good theu can just release next year the s95e with a glossy screen lol
My personal opinion is that color volume and color brightness is what matters the most and will give the image the most impact, we don't need overall brightness to be stronger.
Hi Tech With KG, would you should the S95D over the LG G4 for a room that has a lot of natural sunlight?
Is the sunlight coming in at an angle or directly hitting the tv?
@@TechWithKG I have a floor to ceiling window that faces west and sunlight creeps into the room around noon till evening but I don't think it actually reaches the TV which is being placed on the wall directly across from the window. Not 100% sure if the sunlight reaches the TV spot, since I'm not in the room 24/7 as the apartment is still under construction and going through QC.
@@TechWithKG I'm sort of leaning towards the S95D since I want to pair it with the Samsung 990 sound bar. If I go with the G4 TV I heard there are some compatibility issues when connecting to the Samsung soundbar sometimes. Also I'm looking to get 2 TV's, one in the living room which I mentioned earlier and one for the office room which is going to be on the 2nd floor on the loft style half floor. The wall on the loft floor where the 2nd TV is going to be placed has a smaller wall surface area so I'm thinking I can go with a 65 in for the living room and a 55 in for the office. And that 65 in + 55 in samsung is going to cost almost the same as only one 65 in LG G4. Money is not an issue but just thinking of the costs logically, plus I don't actively watch TV at all atm so these TVs are mostly for guests and casual use on my end, mostly on my PC gaming and trading.
Sounds like it could be ideal for the S95D, the only thing you want to watch out for is direct light of any kind hitting your screen or ambient lighting being on that will show a diffused reflection that is distracting.
@@TechWithKG Thanks for the replies!
G4 ALL DAY EVERY DAY!!!! The G4 processing and motion is MUCH better than the Damsung. The G4 also has a lot more adjustment modes so you can fine tune it to fit your eye. It's a no brainer contest. G4 baby!
what about dolby vision capabilities? the samsung doesn´t have dolby vision which is a bummer
Get the lg calibrated for better accuracy. The one thing is the bezel reflection on the lg. Unreal this got through QC
Is there much difference in motion
LG beats Samsung in motion. There motion is really good this year and it's been good for several years. The g4 has a brand new processor exclusive to it. If you're a movie watcher, it's cinematic motion setting adds extra interpolation on the scenes where it is needed, the cuts it back when the action slows down. This is the "best" way to do it and they are the only ones doing this right now. LG generally has less artifacts too.
Yeah, the G4 is very impressive.
My Samsung S90C does not display a pink tone on pure white like the S95D does in this video, my TV is not calibrated I've just fine tuned the settings
judging based off this video its a tie for me some scenes look better on the s95d and others on the g4
Yikes. Feel like the LG has something similar to Sonys Reality Creation - and it’s jacked up super high. Very processed looking - people who love the hyper-modern trend in tech and entertainment will prob love it.
You are correct. they have undefeatable processing this year like sony and they have def improved their details. People always complained Sony was more detailed, it's about even now. Depends what you like, as you said.
U cant beat the color purity of qd-oled. The colors at all brightness levels are more pleasing to the eye than woled. Its something i don’t believe the camera is able to capture.
What's up with the RUclipsr quantum? His g4 videos look so bad😅
That’s by design.
@@TechWithKG I’ve dealt with people like him. He pokes and pokes until you say ANYTHING referring to him so he can grab it and act like you’re the one making comments. He’s been on you lately because you have access to more tvs, and you have half the subscriber count, but get twice as many views and that’s really pisses him off. The best thing to do is ignore all comments in your videos about him and act like he doesn’t exist.
I don't think the lack of colored brightness is due to tone mapping but to how W-OLED works as this kind of panel has a white sub pixel that has to blend with the other weakened sub pixels whereas a QD-OLED does not rely on a white sub pixel to have enough brightness as all three sub pixels are already bright enough on their own.
Well when I use professional mode toggle vs just having it set to default I get a ton of color back so it’s not as simple as it being a W-OLED. There’s still cases where it will be the QD OLED difference but yeah LG has very aggressive tone mapping which causes it to lose color even when it’s not the most demanding content.
Which is why I would say the color difference is mostly due to the content itself rather than tone mapping this time around.
You may get some colors back when using an other mode but the brightness might also become darker as well, of course let's remove the raised blacks out of the equation.
I am referring to the color volume aspect which measures color accuracy in regard to various levels of luminance/brightness rather than doing it on a single level like we traditionally do. In short, that measures how bright a single color could go.
The white sub-pixel has some strengths and weaknesses compared to a classic RGB sub pixels solution like QD-OLED panels, the most obvious one is when the subject on the screen is bright but not very much colored as that white sub pixel doesn't need to blend much with the other ones and could then go full blown, which is why a W-OLED panel could go brighter in those specific subjects like you show here with white clouds, sand or a white rock on a bright sunlight, the sun itself etc...
Whereas when you have some bright colored subjects that white sub pixel then has to dim in order to not loose too much accuracy when combined to those other dimmer RGB sub pixels which is why in that specific case a quantum dot doped sub pixel like those on Samsung's displays will then be able to display a brighter colored subject on our screen which is what I could see on your examples thankfully well recorded in HDR.
I'm watching your video on an 13" AMOLED (RGB) display that could go up to 500 nits in a 100% window so I can tell when the Samsung has reached its limits like there at 13:26, the LG can't get that yellow tone right since it has to blend the weak red and the weak green sub pixels together but can afford to be much brighter thanks to the addition of the white sub pixel since the sun itself is essentially a giant bright white dot even in this orange scene.
The Samsung image is better and more natural
This is a joke 🤣😂
i also don´t understand why LG isn´t going for QD-OLED its clearly a superior technology
Because the g4 with woled have more dettails and a better picture? Lol
because LG makes woled panels. "it's clearly superior", doesn't look like it in this video. They look very close and the s95d looks bad with the lights on. The color and contrast go down significantly. Watch RTING's comparison of the g4 and s95d. RTING's isn't biased and the difference is huge.
Lg going qd OLED next year
@@johnlira3316 its‘ not 😂
@interistapazzo1.9.0.8 crazy thing is that if Sony came out with another QD-OLED panel this year, they would beat LG G4 just like they did the LG G3. I think people just don't like Samsung. Even in Best Buy people are still choosing the A95L over the G4.
Yep sraight away. Pink tint samsung...blue tint lg
Throw in the Sony B9 for a real comparison 🥳
show the TV settings before comparing, as Vincent does, for example. In the meantime, normal people will only see advertising in the video!
Settings are out of the box FMM untouched on both aside from turning off power saving options. What are you talking about with advertising?
@@TechWithKG show us ! Dont belive u
@@nickitaabitov1265 Why exactly? I have 0 to gain from manipulating settings. You know showing you does nothing unless its live, if you watched my live streams I show my settings all the time its pointless to show it in a pre-recorded video that can be edited. If you don't believe me thats unfortunate I can't change your mind.
@@TechWithKGnice bite on stream ;) all u need its show us your settings...and whats it, as i said 4 times...just show it plz before comparison
@@nickitaabitov1265 but there are literally no differences like he said. its exactly what you would get if you bought the tv. also he usually does put a disclaimer at the start of videos saying "this comparison was filmed in X mode, unless specified" or he says it at the start of the video
QD-OLED winners 🏆
The Samsung can get slightly better colors in some scenes, but that's about all it has over the LG and it's not in all content it does that. The G4 is a more advanced looking picture to me. It looks like it has more detail and the motion is more pleasant to me. G4 is a more complete package and seems more premium from both a hardware and software standpoint. Too bad the 83 is so expensive.
Just bought the 83 G4, comes Tuesday, stoked but yes, very expensive lol
@@BrandonBridgman you get what you pay for I guess.
I don't want a connect box or a matte finish. I always play shooters online, so you don't want a color bomb
G4 is the winner
in size yeah
You left off Dolby vision. You might not think it's that important, but you didn't even mention that Samsung doesn't support it at all.
Other reviewers have been impressed with LG's filmmaker version of it.
I think you underestimate people who buy either of these sets. While they aren't likely to get them professionally calibrated, they will try different modes to see which they like best. LG even has an option to show you different images, and based on your choices, it will set the tv up to your liking across different content.
In gaming mode again, no Dolby Vision option for Samsung might make a difference in some games.
You did mention the warranty difference but you didn't mention why that is a big deal. Namely image retention/burn in. Depending on the content you mainly watch, the risk will vary, but regardless, LG is a lot more confident in its panels. That should give anyone considering these two tvs a big reason to choose the LG.
I think people are aware that Samsung doesn’t have Dolby Vision at this point, it’s really not something I believe people should factor in over other important picture quality aspects or meaningful features because the visual difference and end result in regards to HDR impact is negligible in most content examples. I test it every year.
As for DV gaming that’s botched on LG and no games even really have true support for it, dv gaming is definitely not worth talking about.
I like color so it's Samsung for me, qd oled is better than a magnified woled.
Its not😂
@@interistapazzo1.9.0.8qd oled is ridiculously gorgeous. Its not something that can be captured on a camera, but qd-oled has incredibly pure colors which results in an overall more soothing image. My brain prefers the light itself coming from qd-oled. I have both woled and qd-oled. Never have seen an mla woled, but i get the same effect from sdr content where the qd oled and woled are at the same brightness.
@@crowntotheundergroud my g4 have colors that you never belive it.. and at the same time a unreal detailed image.. so i don‘t ned a qd oled 😉 it‘s all about the settings
Bro the lg can get close to the qd oleds color. The main problem is the color space and the fact that lg oleds run at a very cold temperature. Here is how you fix it. First take your remote and point the cursor to any picture mode setting, now type in the secret code 1113111. Change color space on sdr to bt2020. Make sure you are on native color space. Now also go ahead and enable the reduce blue light filter. You need to be on expert dark space. Turn off peak brightness. Then go in to the white balance, set it to warm 50. Set the color upgrade to high. Also go down to the blue and green and set them to minus 50. Then go to contrast enhancer and set it to high. Turn off auto genre selection if its on. Then finally go to gamma and set it to bt1886 or 2.4. Finally increase the sharpness and turn on ai picture pro. These are the worlds best settings for any lg oled tv. Try it and prepare to be shocked. There will be a huge difference in color, clarity and 3d pop. I tried it on my c1. Please try these settings bro. You will be shocked at how good the color can get. I know it may be oversaturated for you. But it will give you an idea or what the tv is capable of. If you drop the color to around 45. These settings won't be oversaturated though. So try them and let me know.
@@interistapazzo1.9.0.8 what size did u get?
A95L better?
I like both of these over slightly better than the A95L
Only S95D😊 Clear winner
The s95d is better. In dark room its similar maybe . But daytime. S95d is nice
for me Samsung is a clear winner here
I’ll never buy an S95 until they get rid of that one connect box 😂
Costs more because of the OCB, it's not necessary for most people to have it,
Never been a fan of Samsung TVs. Next to Sony, my pick would definitely be LG.
The Samsung S95D is better
Good start of the video but I recommend not having big bright static white text anywhere on screen as it makes OLEDs dim quickly. I stopped watching because it kept dimming my A80J.
Are you going to address Quantum TV calling you out? That man hates your guts.
Let him hate.
No need to, the high road is the only one to take
There is no way that a LG G4 mla oled is better, more color rich, and vibrant than a qd oled. Never.
QD-OLED》woled
G4 and it’s not close. TV of the year by far!
I understand the g4 looks better on whatever camera is being used here but guaranteed 100% QDOLED is the better experience. You can brighten the whites up and everything else and these foolish bandwagon fans know no difference. The color dullness is what makes the WOLED inferior. QDOLED is the more entertaining experience and able to accurately hit more colors bc it can.
Camera being used is a Black Magic Cinema Camera 6K producing a 12 bit raw HDR video file. The experience is mostly subjective based on what people prefer if you want more image fidelity then you go G4 if you value color brightness then you go S95D. Really tons of ways to approach it.
LG é melhor tem tom de pele mais próximo da realidade resolução etc LG tem durabilidade qualidade credibilidade é importante etc LG é o melhor fabricante de TVS DISPLAYS etc do mundo LG capricha em tudo
I've always hated the greenish tint that LG OLED TVs have. I had the C6, and it was awful with color accuracy. I'd pick the QD-OLED because the colors are better.
You can get rid of the greenish tint on lg oleds by reducing the greens and blues to-50. This will also make the colors warmer and richer.
After seeing them both calibrated or tweaked Samsung wins all day, I’ll sacrifice a little bit of processing for that color and brightness
Where’d you see them both calibrated?
A great TV has great processing and motion. G4 is much better because of this.
@@TechWithKG Quantum tv
@@jay2official412 Unfortunately thats not calibrated like he claims, thats just him inputting his wild oversaturated preference settings
Go back to quantum 🤡
All TVs in whatever mode is "manipulating" the picture, to imply that one TV is manipulating while the other isn't is ridiculous .
All consumer TVs today somewhat manipulate the picture no matter what to some degree, whether it be with their extra processing features or just their approach to HDR tone mapping but G4 is actively manipulating the gamma. It’s odd to see LG do this they are usually so vocal about staying true to the director’s intent especially in filmmaker mode.
@@TechWithKG Right. A.I manipulates everything for best results. It's interesting to note the NVidia shield was doing this and it came out over 5 years ago ,only now the TVs are using it.
LG G4 is better. Like I said Samsung processing just isn't impressive.
Samsung 👌
I have an LG 77G2 but What can samsung display knows about oled which make them able to manufacture an oled display which looks more color accurate or tone accurate? I like the fucking samsung and i hate this fact bc i honestly, truly hate samsung in every way. I dont like LG’s greenish tint. Please, tell me which is more color accurate in person. 🙏🏼
You can get rid of the greenish tint on lg oleds by reducing the greens and blues to-50. This will also make the colors warmer and richer.
When calibrated with perfect settings just like quantum tv channel did then samsung s90d beats all of this years flagship tv there is no comparison. G4 gomes good out of the box but can't be calibrated to the beat.
That wouldn’t be “calibrated” you can’t just buy calibrated tv settings, the only way to get real calibration is to hire a real professional to come to your home and set your tv up for you someone who actually knows what they are doing, gotta watch out for these grifters out here trying to flip their wack cheeto dust settings for $5 a month.
In lit conditions the g4 absolutely beats the s95d in color, contrast,and black levels
The matte screen is a turn off. When light hit the screen, it smears the light. And making it look hazy. I seen it in store and was disappointed.
my room is always dark. All windows closed. Will this be a problem for me?
@@enid9911no never not in that scenario
@@TechWithKG thanks
Placement of every TV matters. Reflections happen in bright light on every tv,
I received my S95D several days ago. I can finally game with bright lights on - the set looks like it loses only the reflections.
LG g4 is a washed out mess with pq from 2004. Qd oled is next gen. Don't blame me take it up with lg
Quantum tv fans
Samsung is being sued i thought because of this tv connect box
The characteristic spectral emission of the various technologies, i.e. OLED, QD-OLED and company, pose a problem for the image sensors and white balance systems of almost all cameras and camcorders, especially due to the poor slope of the color filters above the photodiodes of the sensors.
The result is the underestimation of the blue and green components. All things being equal, in a comparison like this, if Quantum Dot and OLED WRGB are framed together, the former will have a dominant pink-magenta color and the latter will turn slightly green. And that's not all. The dynamic range of commercial cameras and camcorders falls well short of what is needed to capture the differences between various displays.
Quantum TV talks a lot of bullshit. He has no idea how to calibrate a TV, he doesn't have the equipment or the skills to do it. It simply distances itself from the reference with which directors create content. If the director wanted a pink flower, it's not that if you show it Ferrari red then it's better, it's just wrong. The most flashy doesn't count, they are not photos for Instagram.
G4 looks better to my eyes.
S95D > G4
LG G4 all day. Clear winner.
Two of the best TVs head to head trading blows...
You: "clear Winner"
...Ridiculous 😂
@@Flipfuchs he is a pan boi
LG cope is real
Lg os way better for gaming and audio since it allows dts audio format where as the samsung does nit so yeah clear winner@Flipfuchs
Agreed, LG is the way to go
The color of G4 is better and more nature, S95D is more yellow color, it is very bad.
7:38 I think with the pizza the S95D looks better and overall it shows all colors more orange and purple and the LGG4 feels like you wear these blue light glasses.
Yup Woled is a no go
To fix this you need to set the tv to warm 50, reduce both the blues and greens to -50 and also set the blue light filter on. The colors will now look warmer and much richer.
LG G4 EASILY! Specially for gaming there is no clearer answer here!
G4 looks the better is 95% of scenes here and unfortunately won’t ever buy Samsung unless they finally add Dolby Vision (which they won’t and I don’t care if it doesn’t matter, I want it at these prices) and Samsung OTA updates don’t degrade their TV’s 6 months after release
Bro the lg can get close to the qd oleds color. The main problem is the color space and the fact that lg oleds run at a very cold temperature. Here is how you fix it. First take your remote and point the cursor to any picture mode setting, now type in the secret code 1113111. Change color space on sdr to bt2020. Make sure you are on native color space. Now also go ahead and enable the reduce blue light filter. You need to be on expert dark space. Turn off peak brightness. Then go in to the white balance, set it to warm 50. Set the color upgrade to high. Also go down to the blue and green and set them to minus 50. Then go to contrast enhancer and set it to high. Turn off auto genre selection if its on. Then finally go to gamma and set it to bt1886 or 2.4. Finally increase the sharpness and turn on ai picture pro. These are the worlds best settings for any lg oled tv. Try it and prepare to be shocked. There will be a huge difference in color, clarity and 3d pop. I tried it on my c1. Please compare the g4 now to the qd oleds with these settings. Please try these settings bro. You will be shocked at how good the color can get. I know it may be oversaturated for you. But it will give you an idea or what the tv is capable of. If you drop the color to around 45. These settings won't be oversaturated though. So try them and let me know.