Fun fact the name thunderstroke came from the team members in spirit lake Iowa. When the fist Indian 111 started in the building everyone thought it had started storming outside. Hence the name was born.
I just bought an Indian Roadmaster a week ago. I have 700 miles on it now. This is my first full touring bike and I love it!!! It was a little top heavy for me at first but now I am getting used to it. I went from a Yamaha 1300 touring to the new Indian. It has great throttle response and the infotainment system is awesome. Lots of bike info and of course Bluetooth capability. I just love it!!!
I ride an Indian and a Harley, they are both great bikes, wouldn't give either up. Indian feels a bit more refined, Harley a bit more raw (riding, fit and finish is great on both). This is not a plus or minus for either brand, just a notable difference. Most importantly, the competition between the 2 will end up with better bikes for everyone.
Hey I have a chief vintage with stage 2 exhaust I like the sound but I am curious. How does the sound stack up in your opinion ? I think the Indian is maybe the first one that can come close to having a sound as cool as the Harleys
after a lot of thought, i was considering a raod glide...but for the price of a 2018, i can get a brand new cheiftain..with more features and better looks. i think im sold on indian, sorry harley
Indian has caught up in popularity to Harley Davidson. Indian as of last have smoother, cooler, and more maintenance free design. Indian has a gear drive primary, single oil fill, and a large oil cooler, and full LED lighting.
Love my Victory CCT, Honda Goldwing dct Tour, and my ElectraGlide Ultra. My brother bought a Challenger and it’s a beautiful bike but mucho dinero. I’ll wait awhile to find a low mileage used Indian. So many great touring baggers but so little time!😎👍
This just tells Harley owners how much HD is slacking. They are brand loyal. As are Indian lovers. Simple as that. Harley has a huuuge advantage in the loyalty department.
Harley has the a huge advantage of just the sheer number of dealers. The network is there. You’re on the road for 5-10 thousand miles you need oil changes/tire changes mechanical repairs and you’re guaranteed to find a dealer for Harley but not Indian
People are knocking Harley for high prices, but have you seen Indian? 20k will put me on preowned streetglide but if 20k is your budget you have no business even looking at Indian, at least in Michigan
@@ajhanson_ since i got in to indian i have actually noticed indian dealers when driving down the highway. There enough atleast i dont worry about finding one on my 600 mile trip
I had been wanting to get a bagger for the past six years. Over that time I would have never considered Indian. Over the past year that I have been looking seriously I did start to consider Indian and gave them a serious look. I bought the Street Glide anyway and I have ZERO regrets. I love it.
Still, Indian at the end. But just to be clear, I'm not one of those Harley haters. I just like the Indians more at the moment. Competition is a beautiful thing. Great video. Thanks for sharing.
I agree with competition being a beautiful thing. These bikes are beautiful, I own a Victory so I'm kinda biased towards the Indians but for good reason. I don't hate Harley's , only the ignorant snobs you run into from time to time.
The Key to buying any motorcycle is service in your area. Love the motorcycle but the dealer I would have to deal with doesn't have a good Service Department.
@@chrisgotthat2435 Yea, I'm too old with heart disease and my hands and arms just bruise, break and bleed too much anymore for knuckle busting. It's hard to even do easy stuff because all it takes is the back of my hand or forearm to rub against something and, because of the blood thinner meds, the gushing begins. Frustrating.
@@rkba4923 All of those issues and you still ride a motorcycle, commendable really. HD will still charge a hefty price regardless though. Shitty indeed
I'd take the Street Glide all day solely for the aftermarket. I like modifying my bikes. I like making them mine. Indian unfortunately just doesn't have the same aftermarket support as Harley does. Indian? You sometimes have to settle for some things. Harley? Whatever you could possibly want, they have it in black or chrome. Sometimes even in other colors!
2 inches of rear travel on a Harley is what stops me from buying one that Indian has 4.5 rear travel I believe and I'm not gettin any younger not sure but you gotta be HD faithful to deal with that with the way roads are these days
Indian all the way , I’ve got both , are you F ing kidding me? I’ve been on two wheels since I was four years old , I’m now 64 , there’s a reason Harley retooled 3 times , after Indian re released in 2014 !! Reality and research !!! Better yet , ride both and see for yourself!!!!!!!!
My 1973 Harley FLH Police Special had right side throttle but foot clutch and jockey shift knob. You could hold a microphone or pistol while jamming gears with the heal of your hand. I was once very skilled shooting with my left hand. Nobody has great aim while riding a horse or motorcycle. Except in the movies.
I owned a 2012 Electra glide ultra limited loved that bike. But it was totaled After 5 months of waiting for the per bike for my I bought a 2017 roadmaster. And it’s a game changer. Truly love my Indian. Best change I’ve made. Great channel. Keep up the great work!!!!!
Street Glide Special, I bought one this year, 1 I do not trust Polaris after they axed victory the moment they got Indian. 2 there are not enough dealers around for me to get services or anything else I may want to take it to the shop for(closest one to me is an hour away), 3 I do not like the look of them, too many curves 4 the aftermarket is much more limited, due to them not being around as long. After watching the video: 5 I have the RDRS system on mine, so having tire pressure monitoring, traction control and a rain mode so, no advantage there. 6 The 111 is comparable to the 114, so I do not see an advantage there, they are both aircooled engines with push rods. This video did not change my mind, at all.
Don't Forget the 3 Indian has leds from the factory. The power windshield. The remote locking bags. And choice of front fender. Just things to consider. Snd your right about the aftermarket scene so tricking out your Indian takesa little more effort which IMO makes it that much more impressive
@@jonathantyree8172 LEDs are easily solved with a bulb replacement. there are several very affordable bulbs for H4 sockets. a 30 dollar bulb is not going to stop me, also you can buy after market entire assemblies for 200-400 dollars. That is not a huge issue. The windshield is w/e it reminds me of the people that get detachable windshields, 99% of the time it is ether off or on, there are very few people that will put it on or take it off regularly. I am pretty sure most people will find a window setting, and leave it. My choice of fender? I like the Harley stock fender, do not care. Remote locking bags is the only major plus I can see, and that alone will not make me consider the Indian. The novelty of that, is not enough. I don't know of many people that it would be enough for.
I had a 2013 Road glide then traded it in for a 2018 Indian chieftain limited. The Indian was a great bike, better suspension than my road glide, the power windshield is definitely a big perk, but didn’t care for the heat from the rear cylinder. Just traded it back in for a 2020 Road glide. I prefer the fix fairing. Was going to go with the new challenger but decided to wait a few years to see how the all new 108 liquid cool motor holds up.
Um their not shovel heads anymore lol. Actually the new 19 and up Indians probably has more issues than the M8. I can't stand the refined M8 because of the scissor gear now. Sounds like a Honda. Might as well get a Honda and have very little issues. Me, i have a twinkie and a hayabusa. Best of both worlds.
That's a foolish remark. I have a 11 street glide with 80k miles. Doesn't leak a drop of oil and starts every time. That being said I would definitely consider buying an Indian. Like other comments I like to customize my rode and with the Harley it's easier
Let’s also remember how with a Harley your paying a 10x value premium just for a name. Harley Davidson is failing as a business and it’s clear as to why. They haven’t even claimed a profit in years, the last however many years Harley is claiming millions and millions in losses on taxes. I’d love to own a Harley as well one day, but the premium your paying for the name is unreal when your not getting much for your money. Are there great Harley Davidsons out there? Yes absolutely..... as a whole tho, harleys are bullshit. Your right about Indians starting to sound like Honda’s but hey Honda’s can be great bikes aswell.
I would choose the Chieftain over the HD. 3 reasons; 1. I’m a short guy, so the position of my legs set better with the chieftain. 2. It’s something different. The styling looks great and it’s not HD. 3. I love my HD. But I’m hating the HD dealerships with their greedy market adjustments, they are awful about this. I can’t justify handing over $1k-$10k just cause they feel like raising the price. Until this trend changes, I won’t give HD another dime. I recommend others to do the same.
I've owned/ridden both the HD Glide(s) & most of the recent Indian models & while I love them all, my Victory Cross Country Tour is the best "bagger" motorcycle I've EVER ridden! Hands down.
My wife surprised me with a 2019 chieftain for my 40th birthday and I love it. It’s sporty when I need it to be and comfy all at the same time. The gear mechanism for the windshield is made of plastic and WILL fail. The replacement off of eBay or Amazon is between $36-$45 and about 2-3 hours of your time to replace.
"Someone put HD highway pegs on this thing, you cant do that!". Best line I've heard all week. Great video, I like HD and Indian, both awesome bikes IMO.
I've had an adjustable windshield for the last 12 years. One of the best things about it is that on the super hot days, if wearing a helmet with a front vent, you can adjust the windshield to direct air right into the vents. Keeps your head cool very well once you're up to about 40 mph.
What kills Indian for me is access to the dealer network. Even though Harley has dropped a shit load of smaller dealerships, you can still find one easily. The closest Indian dealer for me is over 100 miles away. It is what it is and Polaris should consider this.
I would also prefer an Indian over a Harley. A big thing is, I don't do the glossy paint schemes. I love, particularly, the Matte White you can get Indians in. Plus I feel more comfortable on Indians and they don't shake you to death like a Harley.
Harleys from the last decade or so don't shake you to death. That's a thing from the old HDs. Just like they don't leak oil on the floor during storage anymore.
Love the Indian...always have, though had an oppertunity to buy one bout '78, a 47 Chief...at the time had come across hard times and had to leave LA for Fla to find work. And this man had confidence in my riding and told me to take it for a spin...whoa, his father had given it to him in his will. I had no credit and couldn't come up with any sum of cash which I regret to this day, also this bike was mint and the man was a Hells Angel and the guy was a good friend, I had confidence in my riding as had been riding for 25 yrs at the time, but didn't like LA traffic soo no ride, regret that also, at age 64 am going to look into the purchase of a new Indian!
3 things that I am super impressed with. Indian's suspension; nearly TWICE that of a HD at the rear end. An adjustable screen. Very handy for when you need protection, or down when you want the breeze. The details; lockable panniers; a pocket at the front with USB port and room for your mobile phone. Super impressive motor with a great note. (Did I mention details)? It's the sort of bike that would have me looking back to admire it as I walk away. And that's after over 40 years of Harleys.
Sold my dresser after 30 years. It was just broken in. My new ride is a Heritage Softail with stage 2. Just might ride this one till I die. My 67 birthday is coming up!
pfus naathooda ....first ride , a 1949 Indian...bonniville w/ racer brown cam. lived on a good hill... had to jump start... no go ? push up hill ...try again..,but when the beast started ....you KNEW....something special...could pull you off the seat.. barely hanging on.... of course I was only 17 ....no license .... awesome fun. love to have one again ...now 71,,, looking for something I can hold up...maybe a Sportster......happy new year ALL
Hey love all your videos👌🏻 i would pick the Indian Chieftain above any other bike. The 111ci and 116ci powerstroke enignes are so amazing. The technology in the bike is really incredible and the handling is excellent sharp and precise. And it looks so beautiful 👌🏻😁 my ultimate dreambike.for sure. Greetings from Holland
I have owned five HDs and still have my Dyna. I loved my 2010 FLHX for a while and after putting lots of parts and care into it I got tired of repairing it so I bought a used 2016 Victory Magnum Stealth X1 after Victory closed down the plant. I loved Victory so much I bought a used 2016 Vision Tour. Both bikes had only 9K miles and I bought them dirt cheap. After riding them and getting used to all the room I cannot imagine going back to a smaller bike. However, if I HAD to pick between any HD or any Indian I'd pick an Indian. I feel that Polaris takes better care building a robust vehicle and way better care of their customers. I am aware that not everyone feels that way especially those who paid too dollar for new Victorys and felt betrayed when Polaris killed Victory. I have never owned a HD M8 but I've ride a few and it didn't make me want to get back on an HD. I would be more interested in the Indian Challenger if I were to buy a new one. My 15 cents.
Great bike Sean, thanks for sharing that. I suspect you’ll have a couple more coming as you’ve probably accidentally ordered another two from Amazon by scanning the bar codes. Haha 😂. Great Bible text. Regards, Bob M. South Wales
Sean I have a 2019 Chieftain and love it. Street Glide is a great bike too, and there are so many other great bikes. For me, I selected the Chieftain for the handling, the bells and whistles and to be different. The other thing was something you pointed out about the fairing height. I came off a non fairing bike and was concerned about visibility, when I rode the Chieftain I didn't even notice the fairing after a few miles. Here is the final word, ride what you can afford, what you want and what you like, I know I will. Peace
These chieftains are simply freakin' awesome. Everytime I ride it I just cannot get it, how such a bike can be so easy to handle and so much fun to ride.
Update: today he bought a Springfield (non-Darkhorse) to go with his Scout and Twin Cam Heritage. I can’t wait to have a go and decide if I’m sticking with my M8 or moving over to the dark side.
Currently have 18 indian Cheftain Classic like look better than new style look but it is growing on me. Rode Harley for 26 years still own 03 Wide Glide love both best feature of.Indian 5000 mile maint I change oil full synthetic myself simple about 80 bucks campare to 300 hd change 180 if you do it youself. Did ride Harley at Sturgis this year 2022 Ultra Limited Liked rider triangle slightly better on Harley not enough to justify cost difference
I tested a couple 2019 Chieftains. I really like it. In the end I went with another Harley (Street glide) but I still think the Indian Chieftain gives you more bang for your buck. LED lights all around. Harley still ships Street glides with regular halogen headlights.
@@warrenstemphly5756 I didn't say the Indian was better. I did like it though. I also thought it was a good value. I've been wanting to test ride the Challenger with the new motor but I'm afraid I'll trade my bike in immediately. ha ha.
I own a 2019 HD limited with a 114ci motor. I rode the Indian before going with another Harley. I didn’t like the seating position and I like that my Harley has apple car play. The Indian exhaust also cooked my leg.I did like the locking bags and adjustable windshield though.
After watching this amazing video, I have come to the conclusion that I made the right choice! After some heavy thinking and comparison from *H-D* vs *INDIAN* I decided to buy my brand new Honda Grom! After installing my 20” Ape Hangers I’m so happy with my choice! ❤❤❤❤❤
Indian's new ad campaign "Indian, for the guy that wants to ride a Harley, but doesn't want it to be a Harley, so he bought the Harley clone that Polaris bought because Victory was not selling well enough"
@@Evirthewarrior they killed Victory just as it was starting to gain traction, I think it would have been amazing given a couple more years. I was about to buy one but I heard polaris was stopping that line of motorcycles, so I went honda, eventually harley, will likely get another honda in the future for an in town runner. so its Polaris' loss.... I know a LOT of people that were wanting them or would have been their next bike. truly sad how short sighted they were.
@@Evirthewarrior , I've had 11 Harley's over the years. They screwed a lot of us over with the Twin Cam chain tensioner issue. When they refused to fix it under warranty claiming abuse, when I had it dealer service religiously, they lost me forever. And I even stayed with them through the AMF years. Never again, so if someone builds something I like that isn't garbage, I'd be more likely to buy it.. Of course with Indian that's only the Scout at this point, but if I was going to buy an American bagger it would be an Indian.
@@1SnarfyDude I was a teenager when that issue was a thing, I did not own a Harley until I got into my late 20s. I never had an issue with any of the new motorcycles I owned, the used one, where some meat head decided he was going to do all his own work, that had issues and I got rid of that POS he screwed it up badly. Electrical issues with lights not turning on, never tuned it after changing to straight pipes and changing the intake, did the handlebars himself, with a drill leaving burs to cut wires.
I have a 2019 Road Glide. My buddy has a 2020 Chieftain. We swapped for a fee hours when we were in the blue ridge mountains. Both nice bikes for sure, but we both agreed, we like the Road Glide better... as long as money isn't an issue. The price difference per feature tho, the Indian wins.
I've owned a few HDs, while I love their styling, I don't much care for the company itself...I'd love to give that Indian a try...and I love that red paint job...
I hauled motorcycles up to about three years ago. As far as heavy street bikes go, the Indian was the best by far. Best workmanship… Best balance when riding… Indian all the way
I bought the Scout in April to get back on a bike after 30+ years. Loved it! I’m now looking at the Chieftain or Challenger. Demo ride in a few days then the decision. Harleys are great I’m sure. But I do lean towards the look of these beautiful Indian bikes. Thanks for the great review and video.
What all you people need to realize is that it is made by one of the sleaziest companies in America according to my opinion only. But I am a victory owner, and if Polaris decides they're not making money on you, you're going to be holding a bike without parts. They have no customer loyalty at all. Stick with Harley
@@eldonfenton3504 that's a big "if". Polaris got it right with the new Indians. Dealers can't keep them on the floor but that's ok because they need room for all the Harley trade-ins. Looks like Indian is here to stay which is a good thing for competition. Harley-Davidson knows they have to step it up. Currently, there's no comparison. Indian ride and quality far outweigh Harley at this point. For now, it's fun to watch the crowd gather around the Indian amongst the boatload of Harleys in the parking lot. Ride safe!
I would love to see you doing a test Drive with twisties on a Ducati Diavel ha, I own 3 Beemers a Harley and a Diavel, ask me wich one is the fun one..
I just picked up a 06 street glide. 40k and I'm getting 44mpg. It's my 1st harley and I love it. Although I have to admit, it would be cool to have an adjustable windshield.
Have the cam chain tensioners been checked? If not id suggest having them inspected immediatly. 2007 changed to hydraulic and also utilized better material for the guides to prevent the excessive wear on the 2006 and older bikes with spring tensioners. Many just replace with oem tensioners but they will wear again. Or you can upgrade to gear driven cama eliminating the tensioners all together. They also have a kit to upgrade to the hydraulic tensioners and it comes with other parts as part of the package. How much did you pay for the bike if you dont mind me asking? Im going to look at a 2013 streetglide today for what looks to be an great deal. Wanted to make sure I went newer than 2007 for the better cct setup and also the 103 motor. Has 17k miles, stage 1 upgrades including rinehart true duals. Hoping it works out.
I was thinking about to sell my Ducati Diavel to get a Harley Tourer, I have already an old Bmw Sport tourer and another newer BMW sport tourer, around a year ago I did a trip with a bunch.of Harley friends and we exchanged bikes for a couple hours and rode a Ultra Limited, first super slow, bad brakes, bad suspension, It was comfortable, good looking, with great sound, we stopped to switch bikes, and all asked me, what is going to be your next bike, I said another BMW but touring, my Wife asked me why I told them that, well I didn't like it it was boring, now I have a BMW RT oh man I love it, precise steering, great suspension, great brakes and, fun to ride, it doesn't have Harley sound though....
5:26 its the spot for the garage door opener. Also, if you double push the fob lock button it should beep the horn once and arm the alarm. I have the 19 Chieftain Darkhorse in bronze.
Fun fact the name thunderstroke came from the team members in spirit lake Iowa. When the fist Indian 111 started in the building everyone thought it had started storming outside. Hence the name was born.
Abraham Lincoln told me the same story.
This machine is completely different. Kinda like a hemi now a days
I just bought an Indian Roadmaster a week ago. I have 700 miles on it now. This is my first full touring bike and I love it!!! It was a little top heavy for me at first but now I am getting used to it. I went from a Yamaha 1300 touring to the new Indian. It has great throttle response and the infotainment system is awesome. Lots of bike info and of course Bluetooth capability. I just love it!!!
I ride an Indian and a Harley, they are both great bikes, wouldn't give either up. Indian feels a bit more refined, Harley a bit more raw (riding, fit and finish is great on both). This is not a plus or minus for either brand, just a notable difference. Most importantly, the competition between the 2 will end up with better bikes for everyone.
The best comment on here.
Honestly there both great bikes.
There's no reason to hate either.
Hey I have a chief vintage with stage 2 exhaust I like the sound but I am curious. How does the sound stack up in your opinion ? I think the Indian is maybe the first one that can come close to having a sound as cool as the Harleys
I prefer harley davidson
@@fl7645 no one cares
@@stanleymasterson1135 Have you even ever rode either?😂 I bet you even liked your own comment 😅😂
after a lot of thought, i was considering a raod glide...but for the price of a 2018, i can get a brand new cheiftain..with more features and better looks. i think im sold on indian, sorry harley
You won't be disappointed. The Indian is sooo much smoother, reliable, and way better value for the money.
@@DarkHorseParatrooper Indian Motorcycle 1901-1953
@@alancouto8581 Harley Davidson 1903-1969
@@DarkHorseParatrooper Indian is cheaper but definitely not more reliable. Harley is about as reliable as you get contrary to the misinformed.
I'm considering giving up my electra glide and getting a '22 chieftain...looked at one yesterday and I think I'm sold
Indian has caught up in popularity to Harley Davidson. Indian as of last have smoother, cooler, and more maintenance free design. Indian has a gear drive primary, single oil fill, and a large oil cooler, and full LED lighting.
I’ve had a Harley and a victory, and for some reason I am totally drawn to the Indians
a current indian would be expected to feel somewhat like a victory because of polaris.
Love my Victory CCT, Honda Goldwing dct Tour, and my ElectraGlide Ultra. My brother bought a Challenger and it’s a beautiful bike but mucho dinero. I’ll wait awhile to find a low mileage used Indian. So many great touring baggers but so little time!😎👍
This just tells Harley owners how much HD is slacking. They are brand loyal. As are Indian lovers. Simple as that. Harley has a huuuge advantage in the loyalty department.
Harley has the a huge advantage of just the sheer number of dealers. The network is there. You’re on the road for 5-10 thousand miles you need oil changes/tire changes mechanical repairs and you’re guaranteed to find a dealer for Harley but not Indian
Yes,also huge amounts of dealers on the highway if you get into a jam .
People are knocking Harley for high prices, but have you seen Indian? 20k will put me on preowned streetglide but if 20k is your budget you have no business even looking at Indian, at least in Michigan
@@feralhog1693 chieftain 2021 21999 new
@@ajhanson_ since i got in to indian i have actually noticed indian dealers when driving down the highway. There enough atleast i dont worry about finding one on my 600 mile trip
I really like the mix of old school gauges and new tech with the screen
I had been wanting to get a bagger for the past six years. Over that time I would have never considered Indian. Over the past year that I have been looking seriously I did start to consider Indian and gave them a serious look. I bought the Street Glide anyway and I have ZERO regrets. I love it.
I got rid of my harley and bought an Indian 3 years ago and I am 100% glad I did.
Guessing your bikes stock being its indian non existent aftermarket
@@Wolvesmoto there's a pretty extensive aftermarket. What are you smoking? At least a bowling ball company didn't own the brand like Harley
@@Judas114 yeah but Polaris is canadian... cant even call it an Indian, more like an Eskimo
@@donnelcrunk2122 Polaris is an American company.
You're thinking of BRP and CanAm. Companies owned by Polaris.
Whiskey_Doc Polaris definitely does not own BRP (can am, skidoo, etc)
Still, Indian at the end.
But just to be clear, I'm not one of those Harley haters. I just like the Indians more at the moment. Competition is a beautiful thing.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
I agree with competition being a beautiful thing. These bikes are beautiful, I own a Victory so I'm kinda biased towards the Indians but for good reason. I don't hate Harley's , only the ignorant snobs you run into from time to time.
The song ya lookin for is AC/DC " Thunderstruck" Kickass song! Gday Shaun from Australia! SRK Rocks!!!
Great video! 👍 I'd go with the Cheiftain over the Street Glide any day. Both great bikes, but I dont wanna be just another Harley lol
My 17 year old son over heard you say "Thunderstoke" (I expected and different response) he shouted back "Thudercats HOOOOOOOOOO!" 😂
You have raised him well!!!
The Force is strong within this one.
HAHAHAHAHA WTF
Thanks for making my day 10x better
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The Key to buying any motorcycle is service in your area. Love the motorcycle but the dealer I would have to deal with doesn't have a good Service Department.
I have same issue with the local HD Dealer. Ripoff artists.
Learn how to work on your own bike. I do, its way better
@@chrisgotthat2435 Yea, I'm too old with heart disease and my hands and arms just bruise, break and bleed too much anymore for knuckle busting. It's hard to even do easy stuff because all it takes is the back of my hand or forearm to rub against something and, because of the blood thinner meds, the gushing begins. Frustrating.
@@rkba4923 All of those issues and you still ride a motorcycle, commendable really. HD will still charge a hefty price regardless though. Shitty indeed
Work on it yourself, it's cheaper.
I'd take the Street Glide all day solely for the aftermarket. I like modifying my bikes. I like making them mine. Indian unfortunately just doesn't have the same aftermarket support as Harley does. Indian? You sometimes have to settle for some things. Harley? Whatever you could possibly want, they have it in black or chrome. Sometimes even in other colors!
2 inches of rear travel on a Harley is what stops me from buying one that Indian has 4.5 rear travel I believe and I'm not gettin any younger not sure but you gotta be HD faithful to deal with that with the way roads are these days
Most harley riders has the same bike, maybe different color but same bikes no matter what you put on them...
Indian all the way , I’ve got both , are you F ing kidding me? I’ve been on two wheels since I was four years old , I’m now 64 , there’s a reason Harley retooled 3 times , after Indian re released in 2014 !! Reality and research !!! Better yet , ride both and see for yourself!!!!!!!!
Tbat's fine,just remember,when you go to trade it,or sell it,you'll NEVER get back anywhere near what you put into it.
My Dad had a 48 Chief Police bike, it had a left hand throttle ( so they could shoot )
My 1973 Harley FLH Police Special had right side throttle but foot clutch and jockey shift knob. You could hold a microphone or pistol while jamming gears with the heal of your hand. I was once very skilled shooting with my left hand. Nobody has great aim while riding a horse or motorcycle. Except in the movies.
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Well thats a real Indian unlike those crappy ones made now !
You’ve clearly never been on a new Indian. Spoken like a true Harley femboy.
@@mixalis6168 I have and like Harley, but c’mon Indians aren’t bad bikes.
That’s the garage door opener under the right side of the fairing. Have the same bike in black pearl. Hands down best fit and finish
Re: title
Short answer, yes.
Long answer, very yes.
I owned a 2012 Electra glide ultra limited loved that bike. But it was totaled
After 5 months of waiting for the per bike for my I bought a 2017 roadmaster. And it’s a game changer. Truly love my Indian.
Best change I’ve made.
Great channel. Keep up the great work!!!!!
Trust me when I say this the thunder stroke 111 sounds a lot better in person
ahaahahahahahah
@Daniel Smith It’s not that bad my dad had a 111 and now has a 116 and both are very powerful
AC DC Thunderstruck would be the song for that Indians Thunder stroke.
Yes hahahahahaha
Street Glide Special, I bought one this year, 1 I do not trust Polaris after they axed victory the moment they got Indian. 2 there are not enough dealers around for me to get services or anything else I may want to take it to the shop for(closest one to me is an hour away), 3 I do not like the look of them, too many curves 4 the aftermarket is much more limited, due to them not being around as long. After watching the video: 5 I have the RDRS system on mine, so having tire pressure monitoring, traction control and a rain mode so, no advantage there. 6 The 111 is comparable to the 114, so I do not see an advantage there, they are both aircooled engines with push rods. This video did not change my mind, at all.
This is probably the best comment I've came across about this debate. Well said.
Don't Forget the 3 Indian has leds from the factory. The power windshield. The remote locking bags. And choice of front fender. Just things to consider. Snd your right about the aftermarket scene so tricking out your Indian takesa little more effort which IMO makes it that much more impressive
They have plenty of dealers
Just look for the 4 wheelers and
Watercraft out front 🤣🤣
@@jonathantyree8172 LEDs are easily solved with a bulb replacement. there are several very affordable bulbs for H4 sockets. a 30 dollar bulb is not going to stop me, also you can buy after market entire assemblies for 200-400 dollars. That is not a huge issue. The windshield is w/e it reminds me of the people that get detachable windshields, 99% of the time it is ether off or on, there are very few people that will put it on or take it off regularly. I am pretty sure most people will find a window setting, and leave it.
My choice of fender? I like the Harley stock fender, do not care.
Remote locking bags is the only major plus I can see, and that alone will not make me consider the Indian. The novelty of that, is not enough. I don't know of many people that it would be enough for.
Exactly !
I traded my harley in for the chieftain DH. bike is awesome. turns heads everywhere.
ahaahahahahhahaahaha
I traded my Heritage Softail on the Chieftain Darkhorse Icon Ghost Gray 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
I had a 2013 Road glide then traded it in for a 2018 Indian chieftain limited. The Indian was a great bike, better suspension than my road glide, the power windshield is definitely a big perk, but didn’t care for the heat from the rear cylinder. Just traded it back in for a 2020 Road glide. I prefer the fix fairing. Was going to go with the new challenger but decided to wait a few years to see how the all new 108 liquid cool motor holds up.
Funny I may trade my 2013 road glide for a 2021 chieftain
Indian all day. Oh wait I already have an Indian roadmaster 😎
@Car&Track7 they're both polaris
Indian hands down:::: I like to keep oil in my bike not under it. Also I’d rather spend the time riding it instead of working on it
Um their not shovel heads anymore lol. Actually the new 19 and up Indians probably has more issues than the M8. I can't stand the refined M8 because of the scissor gear now. Sounds like a Honda. Might as well get a Honda and have very little issues. Me, i have a twinkie and a hayabusa. Best of both worlds.
🤦🏾♂️ obviously you know nothing about Harley's.
That's a foolish remark. I have a 11 street glide with 80k miles. Doesn't leak a drop of oil and starts every time. That being said I would definitely consider buying an Indian. Like other comments I like to customize my rode and with the Harley it's easier
You know nothing about motorcycle turn your Internet off now
Let’s also remember how with a Harley your paying a 10x value premium just for a name. Harley Davidson is failing as a business and it’s clear as to why. They haven’t even claimed a profit in years, the last however many years Harley is claiming millions and millions in losses on taxes. I’d love to own a Harley as well one day, but the premium your paying for the name is unreal when your not getting much for your money. Are there great Harley Davidsons out there? Yes absolutely..... as a whole tho, harleys are bullshit. Your right about Indians starting to sound like Honda’s but hey Honda’s can be great bikes aswell.
I would choose the Chieftain over the HD. 3 reasons;
1. I’m a short guy, so the position of my legs set better with the chieftain.
2. It’s something different. The styling looks great and it’s not HD.
3. I love my HD. But I’m hating the HD dealerships with their greedy market adjustments, they are awful about this. I can’t justify handing over $1k-$10k just cause they feel like raising the price. Until this trend changes, I won’t give HD another dime. I recommend others to do the same.
I love my Shadow 1100 (1999) she's an old girl but still holding together for me.
I WOULD go for an INDIAN far before any HD....
They didn’t put the pegs on wrong not everybody has 9 foot legs OK Sean lol
I've owned/ridden both the HD Glide(s) & most of the recent Indian models & while I love them all, my Victory Cross Country Tour is the best "bagger" motorcycle I've EVER ridden! Hands down.
There you go...proud of you...you're a leader not a follower!!!
Inner fairing looks like a Pixar robot staring straight at you.
I can’t unsee that now 😂
Speakers and the tach/speedometer make it almost look like yoda to me
My wife surprised me with a 2019 chieftain for my 40th birthday and I love it. It’s sporty when I need it to be and comfy all at the same time. The gear mechanism for the windshield is made of plastic and WILL fail. The replacement off of eBay or Amazon is between $36-$45 and about 2-3 hours of your time to replace.
"Someone put HD highway pegs on this thing, you cant do that!". Best line I've heard all week. Great video, I like HD and Indian, both awesome bikes IMO.
Maybe no aftermarket stuff for Indian
@@aldonova9974 you just don't know where to look
I would rather have an Indian..as soon as my Harley comes back from the shop for the upteenth time, I’m trading in!
yea off course !!
I have a 21 year old Low Rider, love it.all I do is oil and other fluids, no problems.
I bought a 2016 Indian Roadmaster. I'd never go back.
To a Harley?
I've had an adjustable windshield for the last 12 years. One of the best things about it is that on the super hot days, if wearing a helmet with a front vent, you can adjust the windshield to direct air right into the vents. Keeps your head cool very well once you're up to about 40 mph.
Finally an honest review. INDIAN simply a far better motorcycle with no equal! Thank you.
What kills Indian for me is access to the dealer network. Even though Harley has dropped a shit load of smaller dealerships, you can still find one easily. The closest Indian dealer for me is over 100 miles away. It is what it is and Polaris should consider this.
Love my indian, gets ALOT of attention even when surrounded by harleys. I love harleys too, but i wanted to be different.
Cool story.
@@starrider1900 glad you thought it was 👍
Same my scout bobber gets alot of attention at the shows
Especially when surrounded by Harleys.
Should have bought a real Indian, pre Polaris crap !
I would also prefer an Indian over a Harley. A big thing is, I don't do the glossy paint schemes. I love, particularly, the Matte White you can get Indians in. Plus I feel more comfortable on Indians and they don't shake you to death like a Harley.
Harleys from the last decade or so don't shake you to death. That's a thing from the old HDs. Just like they don't leak oil on the floor during storage anymore.
@@TrashPanda5150 rode a 2021 breakout and it shook and rattled like crazy
Love the Indian...always have, though had an oppertunity to buy one bout '78, a 47 Chief...at the time had come across hard times and had to leave LA for Fla to find work. And this man had confidence in my riding and told me to take it for a spin...whoa, his father had given it to him in his will. I had no credit and couldn't come up with any sum of cash which I regret to this day, also this bike was mint and the man was a Hells Angel and the guy was a good friend, I had confidence in my riding as had been riding for 25 yrs at the time, but didn't like LA traffic soo no ride, regret that also, at age 64 am going to look into the purchase of a new Indian!
rode the 21 CVO road glide and street glide and the 21 chieftain, without a doubt i’ll take the chieftain. not even close!
3 things that I am super impressed with. Indian's suspension; nearly TWICE that of a HD at the rear end. An adjustable screen. Very handy for when you need protection, or down when you want the breeze. The details; lockable panniers; a pocket at the front with USB port and room for your mobile phone. Super impressive motor with a great note. (Did I mention details)? It's the sort of bike that would have me looking back to admire it as I walk away. And that's after over 40 years of Harleys.
which hd? i just saw 3.6(flhtk) vs 4.6 on an rm. or is that wrong?
that was rear, front was the same at 4.6
I wish i could afford either one...
I don't know your position in life.
But never give up on your dreams..
Keep pushing forward..
Payments buddy. That’s how the world pays for everything. Your future.
@@youraveragejoe7644 cash is king if I can't pay cash for it I don't need it!
@@JMNeely
The only things that cost nothing is the air in your lungs and death. EVERYTHING is pay to play. Even you job TAXES you for your labor.
@@JMNeely I wouldn’t pay cash when my investments pay more than the interest on a loan
I would and have purchased a Street Glide. Twice. Still in love with it.
I own a '14' vintage.great bike and i've owned everything including a '71' Norton Commando because i'm "71" lol
HD TILL I DIE
Sold my dresser after 30 years. It was just broken in. My new ride is a Heritage Softail with stage 2. Just might ride this one till I die. My 67 birthday is coming up!
I’m with you! HD 4 ever
This comment has not aged well
That “thing” on the lower right fairing is the garage door opener.
Yes I would buy this over any HD and I really like what they did to the frame where they stamped their name right into it
pfus naathooda ....first ride , a 1949 Indian...bonniville w/ racer brown cam. lived on a good hill... had to jump start... no go ? push up hill ...try again..,but when the beast started ....you KNEW....something special...could pull you off the seat.. barely hanging on.... of course I was only 17 ....no license .... awesome fun. love to have one again ...now 71,,, looking for something I can hold up...maybe a Sportster......happy new year ALL
Somebody is trying to make nice with Indian. "We had a fight, we both said some things.....I love you, baby".
Hey love all your videos👌🏻 i would pick the Indian Chieftain above any other bike.
The 111ci and 116ci powerstroke enignes are so amazing. The technology in the bike is really incredible and the handling is excellent sharp and precise. And it looks so beautiful 👌🏻😁 my ultimate dreambike.for sure.
Greetings from Holland
Indian definitely giving HD a run for it's money. That adjustable windshield is a game changer! Along with other pluses.
I have owned five HDs and still have my Dyna. I loved my 2010 FLHX for a while and after putting lots of parts and care into it I got tired of repairing it so I bought a used 2016 Victory Magnum Stealth X1 after Victory closed down the plant. I loved Victory so much I bought a used 2016 Vision Tour. Both bikes had only 9K miles and I bought them dirt cheap. After riding them and getting used to all the room I cannot imagine going back to a smaller bike. However, if I HAD to pick between any HD or any Indian I'd pick an Indian. I feel that Polaris takes better care building a robust vehicle and way better care of their customers. I am aware that not everyone feels that way especially those who paid too dollar for new Victorys and felt betrayed when Polaris killed Victory. I have never owned a HD M8 but I've ride a few and it didn't make me want to get back on an HD. I would be more interested in the Indian Challenger if I were to buy a new one. My 15 cents.
I think you’re on the right track with the Challenger. I just got a ‘21 and its a beast. It’s got Victory DNA throughout and that’s a good thing IMO.
Great bike Sean, thanks for sharing that. I suspect you’ll have a couple more coming as you’ve probably accidentally ordered another two from Amazon by scanning the bar codes. Haha 😂. Great Bible text. Regards, Bob M. South Wales
Sean I have a 2019 Chieftain and love it. Street Glide is a great bike too, and there are so many other great bikes. For me, I selected the Chieftain for the handling, the bells and whistles and to be different. The other thing was something you pointed out about the fairing height. I came off a non fairing bike and was concerned about visibility, when I rode the Chieftain I didn't even notice the fairing after a few miles. Here is the final word, ride what you can afford, what you want and what you like, I know I will. Peace
Maybe his harley buddies will ostrasiz him
You bought a Indian for its handling
@@duanesmith5074 yes
I’d love one in addition to my HD Road King. I wouldn’t trade my bike for one though.
I have a Street Glide special and I am with you. I wouldn't trade my Harley for an Indian but would like one too.
These chieftains are simply freakin' awesome. Everytime I ride it I just cannot get it, how such a bike can be so easy to handle and so much fun to ride.
Just got the 2021 indian springfield Dark horse, and I love it. I've already added the stage 1 intake and plan on doing the bigger cams
I'd get the street glide. I prefer the looks, availability of customization as well as resale value later on.
Those are sweet. I already have a cruiser so my next bike is going to be either a Hayabusa or ZX-14
I've been riding HD's since 1968. Once the 2016 Indian Springfield came along, I been intrigue with the performance and simplicity.
The one thing I can’t deny every time I ride my dad’s Indian is that buttery-smooth gearbox 😭
Update: today he bought a Springfield (non-Darkhorse) to go with his Scout and Twin Cam Heritage. I can’t wait to have a go and decide if I’m sticking with my M8 or moving over to the dark side.
Currently have 18 indian Cheftain Classic like look better than new style look but it is growing on me. Rode Harley for 26 years still own 03 Wide Glide love both best feature of.Indian 5000 mile maint I change oil full synthetic myself simple about 80 bucks campare to 300 hd change 180 if you do it youself. Did ride Harley at Sturgis this year 2022 Ultra Limited Liked rider triangle slightly better on Harley not enough to justify cost difference
I bought a Chieftain Limited Icon, it is a great machine with more features than the Street Glide, but I also have a RGS which is still KING IMHO!
I tested a couple 2019 Chieftains. I really like it. In the end I went with another Harley (Street glide) but I still think the Indian Chieftain gives you more bang for your buck.
LED lights all around. Harley still ships Street glides with regular halogen headlights.
If you thought the Indian was better why did you buy a Harley?
Dummy
@@warrenstemphly5756 He didn't say he liked it better, he said he liked it. He obviously liked the Streetglide better, he bought it.
@@warrenstemphly5756 I didn't say the Indian was better. I did like it though. I also thought it was a good value.
I've been wanting to test ride the Challenger with the new motor but I'm afraid I'll trade my bike in immediately. ha ha.
I own a 2019 HD limited with a 114ci motor. I rode the Indian before going with another Harley. I didn’t like the seating position and I like that my Harley has apple car play. The Indian exhaust also cooked my leg.I did like the locking bags and adjustable windshield though.
After watching this amazing video, I have come to the conclusion that I made the right choice! After some heavy thinking and comparison from *H-D* vs *INDIAN* I decided to buy my brand new Honda Grom! After installing my 20” Ape Hangers I’m so happy with my choice! ❤❤❤❤❤
@0:06 No, a Honda Goldwing is everything a big fat lazy boomer needs. :D
Indian, because why be the same as everyone else?
Indian's new ad campaign "Indian, for the guy that wants to ride a Harley, but doesn't want it to be a Harley, so he bought the Harley clone that Polaris bought because Victory was not selling well enough"
@@Evirthewarrior fantastic!!! 😂😂
@@Evirthewarrior they killed Victory just as it was starting to gain traction, I think it would have been amazing given a couple more years. I was about to buy one but I heard polaris was stopping that line of motorcycles, so I went honda, eventually harley, will likely get another honda in the future for an in town runner. so its Polaris' loss.... I know a LOT of people that were wanting them or would have been their next bike. truly sad how short sighted they were.
@@Evirthewarrior , I've had 11 Harley's over the years. They screwed a lot of us over with the Twin Cam chain tensioner issue. When they refused to fix it under warranty claiming abuse, when I had it dealer service religiously, they lost me forever. And I even stayed with them through the AMF years. Never again, so if someone builds something I like that isn't garbage, I'd be more likely to buy it.. Of course with Indian that's only the Scout at this point, but if I was going to buy an American bagger it would be an Indian.
@@1SnarfyDude I was a teenager when that issue was a thing, I did not own a Harley until I got into my late 20s. I never had an issue with any of the new motorcycles I owned, the used one, where some meat head decided he was going to do all his own work, that had issues and I got rid of that POS he screwed it up badly. Electrical issues with lights not turning on, never tuned it after changing to straight pipes and changing the intake, did the handlebars himself, with a drill leaving burs to cut wires.
I have a 2019 Road Glide. My buddy has a 2020 Chieftain. We swapped for a fee hours when we were in the blue ridge mountains.
Both nice bikes for sure, but we both agreed, we like the Road Glide better... as long as money isn't an issue. The price difference per feature tho, the Indian wins.
I have a friend with a roadglide and i have a Roadmaster we switched bikes and we both like the Roadmaster better period lol.
I've owned a few HDs, while I love their styling, I don't much care for the company itself...I'd love to give that Indian a try...and I love that red paint job...
I have that exact bike and I love it.
No you don’t
Indian hands down, I always feel like Polaris sells you a more complete package than harley.
Before I started to watch, I said to myself "I'd probably prefer my 2019 SG CVO" and after having watched your video, that thought still holds true.
Indian! And I have 2 Electraglides and a Sportster. HD stopped listening to their base about 15 years ago....I will never own another Harley.
The Harley Davidson, hands down. The motors are different, apples and oranges. Thanks for the Scripture.
Ever the optimist “I don’t know what this thing is but I bet it’s awesome”… 😂… you’re awesome
I will choose a chieftain over a street glide but at the end of the day both bikes looks good
i miss Victory :(
Yo Bruh! Me Too... I have a 09 Victory Vision, the BEST BIKE I'VE EVER OWNED!!! Keep Ridin...
Same here, Riding a jackpot.
I wish that key pad could open my wife's saddle bags 🤣😂
LOL!
I hauled motorcycles up to about three years ago. As far as heavy street bikes go, the Indian was the best by far. Best workmanship… Best balance when riding… Indian all the way
I bought the Scout in April to get back on a bike after 30+ years. Loved it! I’m now looking at the Chieftain or Challenger. Demo ride in a few days then the decision. Harleys are great I’m sure. But I do lean towards the look of these beautiful Indian bikes.
Thanks for the great review and video.
I did buy the 2021 Chieftain in December. It’s a lot of bike and I love it!
What all you people need to realize is that it is made by one of the sleaziest companies in America according to my opinion only. But I am a victory owner, and if Polaris decides they're not making money on you, you're going to be holding a bike without parts. They have no customer loyalty at all. Stick with Harley
@@eldonfenton3504 that's a big "if". Polaris got it right with the new Indians. Dealers can't keep them on the floor but that's ok because they need room for all the Harley trade-ins. Looks like Indian is here to stay which is a good thing for competition. Harley-Davidson knows they have to step it up. Currently, there's no comparison. Indian ride and quality far outweigh Harley at this point. For now, it's fun to watch the crowd gather around the Indian amongst the boatload of Harleys in the parking lot. Ride safe!
Watched the whole video and still Street glide looks way cooler
I like the bike hate the tv screen crap on a motorcycle.
Get the Springfield instead
I would love to see you do a test ride on a Harley breakout
I would love to see you doing a test Drive with twisties on a Ducati Diavel ha, I own 3 Beemers a Harley and a Diavel, ask me wich one is the fun one..
I bought a 21' Vulcan 1700 Vaquero last Spring. For the price, I can't complain.
Why buy from a clothing company that happens to sell motorcycles?
Indian beats HD hands down superior go ride one!
I agree
As of right now a Harley
Biggest problem with Indian is lack of dealer support. Very few dealers....very little aftermarket
I just picked up a 06 street glide. 40k and I'm getting 44mpg. It's my 1st harley and I love it. Although I have to admit, it would be cool to have an adjustable windshield.
Have the cam chain tensioners been checked? If not id suggest having them inspected immediatly. 2007 changed to hydraulic and also utilized better material for the guides to prevent the excessive wear on the 2006 and older bikes with spring tensioners. Many just replace with oem tensioners but they will wear again. Or you can upgrade to gear driven cama eliminating the tensioners all together. They also have a kit to upgrade to the hydraulic tensioners and it comes with other parts as part of the package. How much did you pay for the bike if you dont mind me asking?
Im going to look at a 2013 streetglide today for what looks to be an great deal. Wanted to make sure I went newer than 2007 for the better cct setup and also the 103 motor. Has 17k miles, stage 1 upgrades including rinehart true duals. Hoping it works out.
I'm on my 2nd street glide special and love them. Something about the nostalgia of riding a harley
I'd rather have my 2011 Ultra Limited
I was thinking about to sell my Ducati Diavel to get a Harley Tourer, I have already an old Bmw Sport tourer and another newer BMW sport tourer, around a year ago I did a trip with a bunch.of Harley friends and we exchanged bikes for a couple hours and rode a Ultra Limited, first super slow, bad brakes, bad suspension, It was comfortable, good looking, with great sound, we stopped to switch bikes, and all asked me, what is going to be your next bike, I said another BMW but touring, my Wife asked me why I told them that, well I didn't like it it was boring, now I have a BMW RT oh man I love it, precise steering, great suspension, great brakes and, fun to ride, it doesn't have Harley sound though....
I'm a lifelong Harley guy but Indian just makes better bikes, simple. Better looking, better performing, more options. How can you argue?
Also if logo was "stamped", it would be recessed into the metal. Since it's raised, that means it was cast into the metal during the mold process
That fairing looks like a jeep is coming at you head on!
I'll keep my Softail Deluxe.....
Indian bikes are for people who do not want what everyone else has.
I'd love for you to review the Yamaha Eluder. I have one and I love it! Its unlike every other bike and everywhere i go, people ask me what it is.
5:26 its the spot for the garage door opener. Also, if you double push the fob lock button it should beep the horn once and arm the alarm. I have the 19 Chieftain Darkhorse in bronze.