It is one thing to draw inspiration from the Bir Tawil triangle conundrum, and another to arrange a plot where one actor had to conspire to make all legally allowable arrangements of the region undesirable for one of the others using the combination of a war that very actor launched and more layers of astrapolitical technicality. That is some Bismarck-level plan-having the author came up with.
Author here! Yeah you're right on the money on that haha, the story was indeed inspired by that! But oh my god thank you so very much for the comment, it really, seriously means a lot to me! :D
A human pilot: [[Can you see any boarders from here? What have boarders given us?]] A human named Maxor: [[You spend the rest of the mission dodging lasers from space- HOW?!-]]
According to this map, all your base are belong to us now. Seriously though, don't try and colonize a people who have centuries of experience in pushing political influence and colonialism. We might just know EXACTLY what you are trying to do.
Okay, the description of the map and it's problems isn't QUITE accurate. I mean sure, borders drawn by politicians instead of navigators would be exactly as described: not taking into account actual reality. However, actual reality is a little different from what the author described for one reason: everything in the galaxy MOVES. All stars in the galaxy orbit the galactic core, and no two stars AFAIK orbit at exactly the same speed. Sure, it takes millennia (in Sol's case, hundreds of millennia) for most stars to complete a single orbit, but the point is that static borders would result in stars CROSSING THOSE BORDERS as part of their natural movement, even if the border itself was fixed on one of the four great powers' home system. A border drawn with enough precision to go through the center of a star system? That system is going to move out of that soon enough... especially when given millennia to do so. Disputes would naturally arise as a Power colonizes and builds up a system... only to have that system cross the border in what should have been an entirely predictable manner if anyone had bothered to think a few centuries ahead. Finally, the galaxy is a mostly flat disc, and Sol is located about half way between the center and the rim. You'd need some EXCESSIVE gerrymandering to have Sol's area of the galaxy be disputed by all four powers, especially since the natural borders drawn by the politicians at the First Great Conference would be to divide the galaxy like a pie; ie, the only place where all four Great Powers' borders would meet would be the galactic center, with only two Powers meeting any place else. For the Great Quadrilateral to exist at all, it would have to be more or less between and equidistant to all the Powers' homeworlds, ie, those homeworlds are all in the same quarter of the galaxy as Sol such that it makes sense to put the initial place where all their borders meet halfway between the core and the rim rather than in the core itself, and the Great Quadrilateral is formed because that center keeps getting jerked around by each successive Great Conference. Don't get me wrong, the story works quite well enough as is. But the author didn't quite accurately envision the problems that a static map would create, or how it would be impacted by the galaxy's actual "geography".
@@chrisdufresne9359 So... four elliptical sphere-oids centered around a point in our particular galaxy arm? Each converging on a point similar to Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, and Utah USA, with a 'buffer zone' of disputed or unclaimed systems or clusters? Those systems Humanity claimed in the story. -Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, and Utah form the 'Four-Corner States', meaning their borders converge to a single point. In the desert, at this point is a monument marker, you can lay on the ground, spread out, and be in four places at once.
Alien: "The universe is a dangerous, hostile place"
Human: "Dude, have you even researched our world?"
You never mess with someone who can build a Dyson Sphere.
Humanity claims this quadrilateral with this flag (on this map). And we are backing it up with this gun (Dyson laser).
All four Aliens gulp audibly
While the human Ambassador Just leans Back
Thank you, Ambassador Izzard.
@@TheLastGarou thank you. I was hoping someone would get it
@@TheLastGarou Do you have a flag? No flag, no country.
It's a Gunn that can't move so they'd probably only be able to secure the home sistem wich isn't much on the galactic map
Alien: * gives humans a map*
Europeans: well well what do we have here?
i can't wait for a second chapter with the balkanization of the 4 great power
Humanity laid the everloving smack down with this one, and without having to fire a single shot at the real antagonists.
It is one thing to draw inspiration from the Bir Tawil triangle conundrum, and another to arrange a plot where one actor had to conspire to make all legally allowable arrangements of the region undesirable for one of the others using the combination of a war that very actor launched and more layers of astrapolitical technicality. That is some Bismarck-level plan-having the author came up with.
Author here! Yeah you're right on the money on that haha, the story was indeed inspired by that! But oh my god thank you so very much for the comment, it really, seriously means a lot to me! :D
@@Vidguy112 you did good son, real good. A intresting story overall.
Nobody:
Absolutely Nobody:
Nobody in this entire galaxy:
Humanity: >
A certain mercenary pilot:
A human pilot: [[Can you see any boarders from here? What have boarders given us?]]
A human named Maxor: [[You spend the rest of the mission dodging lasers from space- HOW?!-]]
According to this map, all your base are belong to us now.
Seriously though, don't try and colonize a people who have centuries of experience in pushing political influence and colonialism. We might just know EXACTLY what you are trying to do.
humanity just summoned their inner british on the entire galaxy
Greetings, Mentlegent!
For the Rhyhtm that is Algo
"Whilst we had accepted our chains and collars willingly...." Well, that's on you, ain't it?
I suspect this story was inspired by the Bir Tawil triangle in Africa.
I dunno, that nicoll-dyson beam might have had a lot to do with it.
I very much enjoyed the thought provoking informative and diverse content
Thank you for the video. Rofl! That ending was priceless. I love it!
Ha, the Terminus Gambit from Foundation
Weaponizing a Dyson Sphere makes a nova bomb look like a firecracker.
Idk i feel like the contained star as a weapon was the better tool during negotiations here
Well fudge, now I wanna see the map!
For the Algorithm! HFY!
For the Algorithm, For the Author(s), For the Disembodied Voice!
neat
Crushing Rock wave motion fist.
Nice
Ooh raa
For the Algorithm11!
To please the algorithm is all
For the algorithm
To please the algorithm is all
Should work for a few thousand years...
like 929.
Ok can someone please tell me what song is playing in the background it's driving me insane not knowing
Okay, the description of the map and it's problems isn't QUITE accurate. I mean sure, borders drawn by politicians instead of navigators would be exactly as described: not taking into account actual reality. However, actual reality is a little different from what the author described for one reason: everything in the galaxy MOVES.
All stars in the galaxy orbit the galactic core, and no two stars AFAIK orbit at exactly the same speed. Sure, it takes millennia (in Sol's case, hundreds of millennia) for most stars to complete a single orbit, but the point is that static borders would result in stars CROSSING THOSE BORDERS as part of their natural movement, even if the border itself was fixed on one of the four great powers' home system. A border drawn with enough precision to go through the center of a star system? That system is going to move out of that soon enough... especially when given millennia to do so. Disputes would naturally arise as a Power colonizes and builds up a system... only to have that system cross the border in what should have been an entirely predictable manner if anyone had bothered to think a few centuries ahead.
Finally, the galaxy is a mostly flat disc, and Sol is located about half way between the center and the rim. You'd need some EXCESSIVE gerrymandering to have Sol's area of the galaxy be disputed by all four powers, especially since the natural borders drawn by the politicians at the First Great Conference would be to divide the galaxy like a pie; ie, the only place where all four Great Powers' borders would meet would be the galactic center, with only two Powers meeting any place else. For the Great Quadrilateral to exist at all, it would have to be more or less between and equidistant to all the Powers' homeworlds, ie, those homeworlds are all in the same quarter of the galaxy as Sol such that it makes sense to put the initial place where all their borders meet halfway between the core and the rim rather than in the core itself, and the Great Quadrilateral is formed because that center keeps getting jerked around by each successive Great Conference.
Don't get me wrong, the story works quite well enough as is. But the author didn't quite accurately envision the problems that a static map would create, or how it would be impacted by the galaxy's actual "geography".
Maybe the borders are centered around certain stars and extend for set amounts of neighboring systems.
@@chrisdufresne9359 So... four elliptical sphere-oids centered around a point in our particular galaxy arm? Each converging on a point similar to Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, and Utah USA, with a 'buffer zone' of disputed or unclaimed systems or clusters? Those systems Humanity claimed in the story.
-Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, and Utah form the 'Four-Corner States', meaning their borders converge to a single point. In the desert, at this point is a monument marker, you can lay on the ground, spread out, and be in four places at once.
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For the algorithm
To please the algorithm is all