This is definitely a super group! Kotzen is so much more than Poison, Sheehan is a legend, and Portnoy is the GOAT! Do some deep dives on them individually and find out!
Xanadu is from the 3rd album, "III." Oblivion is from the 2nd album, "Hot Streak." The Winery Dogs aren't prog. What you saw is what they do: Rock with their own twist to it. The self-titled first album is amazeballs and the next two are decent and still growing on me. Try the videos for, "Elevate," "I'm No Angel," "Hot Streak," "Mad World," and "Breakthrough." Possibly my favorite song by The Winery Dogs is the last track on the first album, called "Regret." It's a bluesy breakup ballad with great lyrics.
Kotzen was only in Poison for like, one album, and he was putting out solo stuff before Chris Cornell was even on the scene. He has an extensive solo catalog and is considered a legend among guitar players.
I should love Winery Dogs from the players involved. But like a lot of super-groups, the issue is that they can, of course, play like mad, but... nobody is doing much in the way of composing. This is a problem with Polyphia as well... amazing players, but the compositions are just four chords, and then they just show off over it. It's not that these groups are not impressive, they are... it's that the heart is not there and you don't feel it. I mean... they sure as heck are trying to sell it in the videos and in the playing, but you just get the feeling that they didn't mean it when they put it together in the first place. More like it's just something to do when you're sitting in your Malibu Xanadu to pass the time as a rock star from an old band. It's interesting that Portnoy, I agree, is doing the best job here, and that's because he's the one sort of sitting back and trying to serve the song somewhat. Sheehan is amazing, but has no idea how to play in the pocket. Pretty sure he's never been acquainted with the pocket. Note that... and this will be controversial... Poison, Mr. Big, and yes, even Dream Theater all have the heart problem a lot in those original songs, too. There's a reason that Mr. Big's biggest hit is their (terrible) ballad, it's the only song that most folks could connect with. And this is from a guy who saw them open live for Rush (Gilbert is a great technician, but may have no soul in his body at all). Poison's hits were their party rock pieces (with CC Deville on guitar). Dream Theater has one hit with Pull Me Under, the first song from their first album, and one of their most straightforward compositions (note that some of their recent stuff is so straightforward I mistook one of their pieces for a Muse song, which... I appreciate the intention, but they need to be doing their own thing). Your musical instincts are dead on, Lee, and that's why I watch your channel. Keep on telling it like it is. Rock on!
RIchie and the Poison deal was just one album late in thier career and by most people's opinon a Kotzen solo album featuring the members of Poison, he wrote most of it. He has done every type of music besides thrash it seems. He is heavily influenced by Philly Soul and Motown artist and he has had Fusion albums, schred albums, and goes through it all. He also played briefy with Ozzy and Guns N Roses (non recording or touring though) produced Gene Simmons, Motorhead and a few more artist and has also been in Mr Big with Sheehan, Forty Deauce, Vertru and Wilson Hawke. He recently droppped a new solo album a follow up to his 50 for 50 record in which he did 50 songs and released it on his 50th birthdate. He has 39 albums all together since 1988 when he was 16. Almost forgot he has a band with Adrian Smith of Iron Maiden in which they both play guitar and Smith does the bass and Kotzen does the drums and both share lead vocals. Really bluesy metal rock, Adrian has a great voice also. They are called Smith/Kotzen.
Depends on references and tastes, This is a supergroup for me. Audioslave and Velvet Revolver (edit) are not my taste and haven't even heard any of their songs so they're not supergroups for me.
Please. Audioslave was Cornell fronting RATM, and Velvet Revolver was loaded with Guns. These are 3 seperates and above and beyond better players and song writers then either of those groups, combined.
Richie was singing like "Cornell" when Chris was still just a drummer in local Seatlle bands and looked like "Cornell" when Chris was still striking the Jesus Christ Pose. Yet if you want to hear Richie (out) sing Cornell on Coschise with Tom Morello, punch it in youtube (Richie Kotzen w/Tom Morello Coschise) the Dogs did a benefit show for a charity before Chris had died and they brought out Morello who was playing also. He kills it, dare I say, does it even better then Chris did. Cornell was still alive and loved it. Richie and Ben Sheppard have been very coy and funny when asked if they would work together in a tribute with Soundgarden and Richie singing/playing guitar with them.
more winery dogs please!!
Kotzen has been singing this way before Cornell.
I’ve seen them in person several times. They put on a great show!
Yes he does sound like Cornell. Check out their song and video Elevate.
This is definitely a super group! Kotzen is so much more than Poison, Sheehan is a legend, and Portnoy is the GOAT! Do some deep dives on them individually and find out!
Xanadu is from the 3rd album, "III." Oblivion is from the 2nd album, "Hot Streak." The Winery Dogs aren't prog. What you saw is what they do: Rock with their own twist to it. The self-titled first album is amazeballs and the next two are decent and still growing on me. Try the videos for, "Elevate," "I'm No Angel," "Hot Streak," "Mad World," and "Breakthrough." Possibly my favorite song by The Winery Dogs is the last track on the first album, called "Regret." It's a bluesy breakup ballad with great lyrics.
Kotzen was only in Poison for like, one album, and he was putting out solo stuff before Chris Cornell was even on the scene. He has an extensive solo catalog and is considered a legend among guitar players.
Could this be Malibu? Isn’t that where Richie lives? My husband’s favorite band. ❤️
New to me, not bad, but I am not sold on it. It feels like it was made for the band rather than the listener. Keep Reacting!
To each their own. Xanadu is great imo.
I liked the second one. First one was radio filler but was catchy at best.
@@L33Reacts obviously it’s subjective…
I should love Winery Dogs from the players involved. But like a lot of super-groups, the issue is that they can, of course, play like mad, but... nobody is doing much in the way of composing. This is a problem with Polyphia as well... amazing players, but the compositions are just four chords, and then they just show off over it. It's not that these groups are not impressive, they are... it's that the heart is not there and you don't feel it. I mean... they sure as heck are trying to sell it in the videos and in the playing, but you just get the feeling that they didn't mean it when they put it together in the first place.
More like it's just something to do when you're sitting in your Malibu Xanadu to pass the time as a rock star from an old band. It's interesting that Portnoy, I agree, is doing the best job here, and that's because he's the one sort of sitting back and trying to serve the song somewhat. Sheehan is amazing, but has no idea how to play in the pocket. Pretty sure he's never been acquainted with the pocket.
Note that... and this will be controversial... Poison, Mr. Big, and yes, even Dream Theater all have the heart problem a lot in those original songs, too. There's a reason that Mr. Big's biggest hit is their (terrible) ballad, it's the only song that most folks could connect with. And this is from a guy who saw them open live for Rush (Gilbert is a great technician, but may have no soul in his body at all). Poison's hits were their party rock pieces (with CC Deville on guitar). Dream Theater has one hit with Pull Me Under, the first song from their first album, and one of their most straightforward compositions (note that some of their recent stuff is so straightforward I mistook one of their pieces for a Muse song, which... I appreciate the intention, but they need to be doing their own thing).
Your musical instincts are dead on, Lee, and that's why I watch your channel. Keep on telling it like it is. Rock on!
“Poison-ish”?! What are you talking about?!?
The first track sounds like poison? Are you special? Do you need assistance?
@@L33Reacts it sounds nothing like Poison.
@@L33Reacts “sounds Poison-ish” translation: I only listen to prog and anything fairly mainstream equals that trash band Poison
Nobody in Poison can touch any of these guys talent or songwriting wise.
This is recorded in Richie's back yard in Malibu Hills.
Who is Dave?
I sometimes called Mike portnoy, Dave, on accident. I did it all the time in the old DT videos. Too bad this is nowhere near those albums. 😅
@@L33Reacts yeah it’s better imo
Good stuff. The vocals seem processed.
Say what?
RIchie and the Poison deal was just one album late in thier career and by most people's opinon a Kotzen solo album featuring the members of Poison, he wrote most of it. He has done every type of music besides thrash it seems. He is heavily influenced by Philly Soul and Motown artist and he has had Fusion albums, schred albums, and goes through it all. He also played briefy with Ozzy and Guns N Roses (non recording or touring though) produced Gene Simmons, Motorhead and a few more artist and has also been in Mr Big with Sheehan, Forty Deauce, Vertru and Wilson Hawke. He recently droppped a new solo album a follow up to his 50 for 50 record in which he did 50 songs and released it on his 50th birthdate. He has 39 albums all together since 1988 when he was 16. Almost forgot he has a band with Adrian Smith of Iron Maiden in which they both play guitar and Smith does the bass and Kotzen does the drums and both share lead vocals. Really bluesy metal rock, Adrian has a great voice also. They are called Smith/Kotzen.
Not really a supergroup. A semi-supergroup maybe. Audioslave and Velvet Revolver are true supergroups.
Depends on references and tastes, This is a supergroup for me. Audioslave and Velvet Revolver (edit) are not my taste and haven't even heard any of their songs so they're not supergroups for me.
Wth are you talking about?!? Velvet Revolver is nothing and Audioslave is good…The Winerydogs are pros pros
What?? This band is million times better than those two.
When it comes to skill like virtuosity, they are super groups Id say
Please. Audioslave was Cornell fronting RATM, and Velvet Revolver was loaded with Guns. These are 3 seperates and above and beyond better players and song writers then either of those groups, combined.
Richie was singing like "Cornell" when Chris was still just a drummer in local Seatlle bands and looked like "Cornell" when Chris was still striking the Jesus Christ Pose. Yet if you want to hear Richie (out) sing Cornell on Coschise with Tom Morello, punch it in youtube (Richie Kotzen w/Tom Morello Coschise) the Dogs did a benefit show for a charity before Chris had died and they brought out Morello who was playing also. He kills it, dare I say, does it even better then Chris did. Cornell was still alive and loved it. Richie and Ben Sheppard have been very coy and funny when asked if they would work together in a tribute with Soundgarden and Richie singing/playing guitar with them.