@crookie7656 rumors saying its ruan mei and argenti. It also makes more sense since they are selling firefly who is reliant on ruan mei. e0 firefly at the current beta is kinda reliant on superbreak unless they buff her tonight
although Aventurine is still the best when it comes to keeping your allies alive, Fu Xuan is still by far the best general Sustainer overall. She is 2nd when it comes in keeping allies alive, but she does more than Aventurine. HP+CritR buff, heal, debuff immunity. When it comes to SP, although initially Aventurine is SP free, in harder content, specially in Swarm and GnG, his Shields needs to be refreshed every now and then, specially when enemies focus on one unit. His shields would drain hard and you have no way to heal back your allies unless getting some specific traits in SU. His EffRES on shielded isn't guaranteed too, as you will get debuff at some point by being unlucky. This can spiral out of control specially if the opponent is Ebon Deer or Kafka. This can make Fu Xuan a better pick. Overall, both Aventurine and Fu Xuan sits at the top of the sustain list when it comes to sustain and both does their job really well. If you don't have Aventurine, Fu Xuan is a must pull.
I would actually argue, that if you have aventurine, she gets even better. We have 2 teams we need to sustain. And it just so happens, that Aventurine's weaknesses are Fu Xuan's strength, so by having both, you can cover what's exactly needed.
My only preservation is FireTB since I didn't have enough pulls for Adventurine ( I keep losing 50/50 to Welt along with standard, so no Gepard either) so yeah I will pull for Fu Xuan...
The worst thing about this game is you have to wait for characters u want to pull. I will need to wait for atleast 5 months to get acheron is just insane. By that time, she will be powercreeped by someone else just like before jinglius banner, she got powercrept by acheron. Its insane that once u lost the 50/50 on a banner, u r forked as a f2p. Btw i did 140+ pulls and still lost acheron (got bronya at 78 and then went on to get nothing and her banner gone ,gone, reduced to atoms)
@@soulfulhuman8724 thats really nice! I think your jingliu is good enough try to invest in supports, my jingliu did the same dmg but with robin she does double the dmg easily reaching 100k+ just with robin’s buff but if you dont have robin then you can use bronya, sparkle, ruan mei, or tingyun if you dont have any of them! Not to mention pela’s e2 is absolutely amazing since it shreds ice def as well I dont have any eidolons on her so I cant tell specifically but she is one of her best teammates :)
I mean, she's still good, but since I have Aventurine and Loucha and I want go for Huohuo at some point, too, there's not really a reason for me to pull for Fu Xuan anymore. Especially, if Ruan Mei gets a rerun in 2.3. I can still wait for Firefly's rerun, since i'm lacking on good Supports and DPS, and without Ruan Mei, Firefly can't be a complete Hypercarry, since they synergize insanely good with Harmony MC.
I have Aventurine and Luocha.. but Luocha is starting to become not enough, so I'm torn rn between using my guarantee on FuXuan or just get FireFly or someone else.. ( I have Boothill )
True, she is sp positive 😢(or neutral) mostly. Also adventurine has a downside that even if one charcters sheild is down, he need to use skill to up his sheild again. So it makes him SP negative if he does that every 2 turns. But overall adventurine has better multipliers and he can help against aoe and most enemies in game do aoe/blast dmg so it is better to have adventurine / gepard than fu-xuan.
In most teams you want to run +1 SP support. Fu generates 1 every 3 turns, which is +0,33 SP/turn. So in teams with SP heavy Damage dealer and/or SP heavy supports, she just works not as good.
@@gonnabestupidbutactuallyno8295 only preservation that comes to my mind who is sp positive is gepard according to that norm U keep attacking basic, until his ult is up and then go sheild 3 turns
E2 revive can be pretty clutch, especially if more than one person gets downed at the same time. 30% crit damage bonus on her E1 is pretty nice as well
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I lost my 50/50 on aventurine banner to Clara so im getting Fu Xuan, and hope that Ruan Mei dont come in 2.3.
It might surprise you on what I'm gonna tell you bro
I am so sorry for your loss 😢
She will come in 2.3 for sure, as she is a perfect teammate for firefly (as she is in her bis team comp), and she is next in line for a rerun
@@ioni2668 Isn’t it HuoHuo and Argenti
@crookie7656 rumors saying its ruan mei and argenti. It also makes more sense since they are selling firefly who is reliant on ruan mei. e0 firefly at the current beta is kinda reliant on superbreak unless they buff her tonight
thanks for the guide, it really helps when i am uncertain of deciding who to pull
although Aventurine is still the best when it comes to keeping your allies alive, Fu Xuan is still by far the best general Sustainer overall. She is 2nd when it comes in keeping allies alive, but she does more than Aventurine. HP+CritR buff, heal, debuff immunity.
When it comes to SP, although initially Aventurine is SP free, in harder content, specially in Swarm and GnG, his Shields needs to be refreshed every now and then, specially when enemies focus on one unit. His shields would drain hard and you have no way to heal back your allies unless getting some specific traits in SU. His EffRES on shielded isn't guaranteed too, as you will get debuff at some point by being unlucky. This can spiral out of control specially if the opponent is Ebon Deer or Kafka. This can make Fu Xuan a better pick.
Overall, both Aventurine and Fu Xuan sits at the top of the sustain list when it comes to sustain and both does their job really well. If you don't have Aventurine, Fu Xuan is a must pull.
I would actually argue, that if you have aventurine, she gets even better. We have 2 teams we need to sustain. And it just so happens, that Aventurine's weaknesses are Fu Xuan's strength, so by having both, you can cover what's exactly needed.
My only preservation is FireTB since I didn't have enough pulls for Adventurine ( I keep losing 50/50 to Welt along with standard, so no Gepard either) so yeah I will pull for Fu Xuan...
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I beat a boss with fu xuan just sustaining and healing while all my other teammates were dead pretty good
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The worst thing about this game is you have to wait for characters u want to pull.
I will need to wait for atleast 5 months to get acheron is just insane. By that time, she will be powercreeped by someone else just like before jinglius banner, she got powercrept by acheron.
Its insane that once u lost the 50/50 on a banner, u r forked as a f2p.
Btw i did 140+ pulls and still lost acheron (got bronya at 78 and then went on to get nothing and her banner gone ,gone, reduced to atoms)
Thats true, however there are units that, no matter the powercreep, still do absolutely insane like jingliu and what I assume acheron
@@black_velvet_4354 my jingliu does 67k dmg , she has 222 crit dmg and 2.5 k atk, do u think she is good enough or I need to increase her atk% more??
@@soulfulhuman8724 thats really nice! I think your jingliu is good enough try to invest in supports, my jingliu did the same dmg but with robin she does double the dmg easily reaching 100k+ just with robin’s buff but if you dont have robin then you can use bronya, sparkle, ruan mei, or tingyun if you dont have any of them! Not to mention pela’s e2 is absolutely amazing since it shreds ice def as well I dont have any eidolons on her so I cant tell specifically but she is one of her best teammates :)
@@soulfulhuman8724 also I assume youre using on the fall of an aeon? Try to s5 it since it buffs her really well
bro theres not leaderboard and its a single player. Play whoever you want
The only 2 other Sustain Character he mentioned are the ones I don't have, funny... I pull for her regardless
Guys should I replace nat with fu xuan?
yes
I mean, she's still good, but since I have Aventurine and Loucha and I want go for Huohuo at some point, too, there's not really a reason for me to pull for Fu Xuan anymore. Especially, if Ruan Mei gets a rerun in 2.3. I can still wait for Firefly's rerun, since i'm lacking on good Supports and DPS, and without Ruan Mei, Firefly can't be a complete Hypercarry, since they synergize insanely good with Harmony MC.
I have Aventurine and Luocha.. but Luocha is starting to become not enough, so I'm torn rn between using my guarantee on FuXuan or just get FireFly or someone else.. ( I have Boothill )
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the skill point efficiency part was the most insane part i have ever heard ever
True, she is sp positive 😢(or neutral) mostly.
Also adventurine has a downside that even if one charcters sheild is down, he need to use skill to up his sheild again. So it makes him SP negative if he does that every 2 turns.
But overall adventurine has better multipliers and he can help against aoe and most enemies in game do aoe/blast dmg so it is better to have adventurine / gepard than fu-xuan.
@@soulfulhuman8724 yea that's true but that 3rd take was invalid
In most teams you want to run +1 SP support. Fu generates 1 every 3 turns, which is +0,33 SP/turn. So in teams with SP heavy Damage dealer and/or SP heavy supports, she just works not as good.
@@gonnabestupidbutactuallyno8295 only preservation that comes to my mind who is sp positive is gepard according to that norm
U keep attacking basic, until his ult is up and then go sheild 3 turns
@@soulfulhuman8724 Aventurine and most abundance units are sp positive (Gallagher can even be a +1.25SP unit)
Is her e 2 and 3 worth it
3 not so much but 2 is decent
E2 revive can be pretty clutch, especially if more than one person gets downed at the same time. 30% crit damage bonus on her E1 is pretty nice as well
@@rainne- bro e2 is broken