@@elladan23 it seems like a pretty long shot to promise someone that if they make a voice over in this movie, then they will get a bigger role after many many years and only if the movies become successful 😅 ultron and thanos actors are excellent actors too but never acted in the movies ... think the writers/directors just loved his voice so they chose him .. look at groot and rocket too 😂😂
@@michaeledwards1552 I know that. He hasn’t “spent 3 decades in the MCU” though. Like I said, there’s a difference. Saying someone has spent 3 decades in the MCU a makes it sound like he has been a character in it for 30 years. In reality, he’s only been in it for a little over 10 years.
...and now you begin to understand the Multiverse of Madness. Not just a catch phrase, but a place. Ancient One warned Steven of this. Steven's response? 'Teach me.'
I JUST now realized the music playing when Tony sends the nuke through the wormhole is the same music that plays when Tony struggles with Thanos for the stones in endgame 🤯
I noticed when i watched endgame in the movie theater. Recognized it instantly after seeing the first avengers movie so many times. I think that more than anything else made me realize that tony was about to die.
everyone sleeps on my boy edwin in agent carter, tony named his whole ass A.I. system after him. idk i just love edwins importance to the stark family and i hate that agent carter was cancelled and we didn’t get to see more of their story
I don't comment much but frick yeah TTvTT AC's cancellation will always feel like an open wound DX I really feel that James D'Arcy (AC's Jarvis) really brought to life the person Tony tried to commemorate/revive in JARVIS/Vision. I can imagine him (and Anna of course 🥺) being there for young!Tony... just being there- spoiling, scolding, but most of all, caring for him as he grew up
@@flagflow1232 ikr, the unfinished look just does something for me, plus like Tony throughout the movie, it barely held on but stayed strong So when the suit was destroyed and Tony looked at it like a best friend died....that hit for me
And this focuses on, slightly, how some British citizens fought in the early version of the Allied Forces for WWI and what happened to those who stayed stateside.
@@Craigy2818 This would be an acting choice, not something written in the script. Also, the filming process for Agent Carter would have been during the release of Age of Ultron, so either this is an insane coincidence, or Paul Bettany (Vision) and James D'Arcy (Edwin Jarvis) had discussed ways to make the two characters similar.
@@karolynagrandez7324 me too! Also, respectfully, you should phrase it as "I love Edwin Jarvis so much." I am not trying to be mean in any way by correcting you, I'm just trying to help.
" I have been a voice with no body, a body but not human, and now... a memory made real. Who knows what I might be next... " - The Vision( Wandavision )
In the original Iron man, Tony Stark said that Jarvis was created by accident. Could it be that the original Jarvis's memories were saved by Howard Start using experimental technology and it was Tony who was able resurrect Jarvis consciousness?
@@dubbingsync Actually yes, Vision can live on his own, especially in the comics. When he was initially created he was an android body (OG Human Torch) with Hank Pym's brainwaves and the powers of Wonder Man. I would see why not in the MCU, and I mean Shuri was figuring that part out until Thanos arrived and Vision wanted to die so Thanos couldn't get the mind stone.
It’s sad when I just now relized in the first avenger movie the last person he wanted to talk to was pepper his wife...end game she was the last person he spoke to
She literally made it her sex doll like bruh she fell in love with a robot who has had memories of a man from the 1940-1980s she has a multi billion dollar sex doll that was made to protect the world and defeat ultron and fell in love with a fucking robot
@@Official_Chivo.06 bro what are you talking about. Even Vision said he's neither Ultron nor J.A.R.V.I.S. He's a synthetic being not a robot. But hey oh its just fiction right
fun fact in the german version they actually used the same person who synchronizes the part of J.A.R.V.I.S/Vision for the buttler so they sound all the same.
It's a shame that we never saw Tony and Jarvis together. The fact that Tony named an AI after him hints how important Edwin Jarvis was to him in life. There's always flashbacks to when Tony was younger, but I just can't think of necessary situation for them to show that outside of maybe an episode of What If...?.
Great video! Except Spiderman Far From Home is in 2024 not 2023. Betty Brand says after the "memorial" video that its been 8 months since the snap. The snap was on octorber 2023, while peter's trip is on june/july 2024. (Wandavision is 3 weeks after endgame, 7 months before spiderman) other than that, Great Video!
@@ladiddas Ironman 1 is in 2008. That's why Vision mentions in Civil War "In the 8 years since Mr. Stark announced himself as Ironman...". Civil War is in 2016.
I kind of forgot Jarvis's voice, more used to him as Vision, back when was AI never noticed his voice, now seeing these clips make me realize how close Tony feels to Vision, a father and son feeling.
After watched all mcu movies and series, I watched Age of ultron again and damn that moment when Wanda feels Vision in the cradle and said he dreaming. She could feels him before he was born, so I realized how deep their relationships were. :'(
It's weird that Edwin Jarvis died then Tony stark created Jarvis the AI and then later put it inside Vision It's like another Jarvis was leaving again, but except he was a robot
Jarvis in Agent Carter is so lovable and amazing. Such a talented actor, and even in season two with the (kinda terrible) script they were given, he was incredible working with what they were given.
The actor in Avengers Endgame (James d'Arcy) is also the actor from Agent Carter; so Jarvis, JARVIS, and Vision are only played by two different people.
Agent Carter was a different show, like it was part of the MCU but it didn’t feel like it. But it’s probably because the didn’t reference things outside the show that much. When I heard ROXXON I was like 😯 and gamma
I love how Vision gave himself a cape after seeing Thor's
Too bad he doesn't remember that anymore 😫
@@drewaureangeronimo7816 bruh :(
Omg I do too!!!!
@@drewaureangeronimo7816 in wanda vision he does give the memory to the while vision so he does Acc remember :)
@@Carti118 he activates the old visions memories but he himself doesn’t have any
I just realized Vision never got to mourn Tony, he doesnt even know hes dead
oof:/
oh holy shit
And Tony’s basically his dad
Aye you never know, we got WandaVision, it might happen
@@johnnymartini4989 I'm hoping so. I really like wandavision so far
Imagine getting a big rol in a movie series because your voice was so good in a secondary character
lmaoo
I think it should have been plan from before, i don't see another reason to have a Paul bettany as a voice actor.
@@elladan23 it seems like a pretty long shot to promise someone that if they make a voice over in this movie, then they will get a bigger role after many many years and only if the movies become successful 😅 ultron and thanos actors are excellent actors too but never acted in the movies ... think the writers/directors just loved his voice so they chose him .. look at groot and rocket too 😂😂
Imagine getting your own TV series because your voice was so good in a secondary character based off a main character of a different TV series
@@sagejennings4342 lmao
"I've no desire to spend the rest of time as a disembodied voice"
And he didn't
What’s the time stamp for that line?
@@hannahsharp in agent carter series when he was howard butler
@@mohamedlabna3752 y$
@Bush Guy Tony made Jarvis as an approximation of the man he remembered, not an exact copy
.
The nickname for Vision is "Vis", which works as a simplified "JarVIS"
Illuminati music commences
Yes no fucking shit how did you get 159 likes
@@leoholder7839 I wonder the same
@@leoholder7839 well i mean I didn't realise that until now
@@brandonv6905 me neither, but it isn't that mindblowing .-.
When Vision is created:
Everyone else: 😮
Wanda: That’s pretty hot 😍
I just imagine the Squidward meme “OH NO HE’S HOT!!”
yeah hes hot- i agree 👍
Wanda be like hmmm he would be great as sexdoll
@@mr_tras5332 sex robot*
@@ForeverCacti the rick and morty episode lol
Paul Bettany is the longest running actor in the MCU now. That’ll change when more characters from Iron Man appear in the current phase though.
Crazy hes spent 3 decades in the Mcu
@@michaeledwards1552 There’s a difference between being in something during three separate decades and spending three decades in something.
@@TigerBears11 he been in the first iron man which was released in 08 its 2021.
He will certainly disapear on WandaVision (since hes already dead)
@@michaeledwards1552 I know that. He hasn’t “spent 3 decades in the MCU” though. Like I said, there’s a difference. Saying someone has spent 3 decades in the MCU a makes it sound like he has been a character in it for 30 years. In reality, he’s only been in it for a little over 10 years.
MCU is the story of JARVIS
Oh shit you are not 100% wrong
@@Silver5kull he is in everywhere. 40's (as Jarvis), 00's-2010's (as J.A.R.V.I.S.), 2020's (as Vision)...
@@batsdaylights I think Vision will stay in MCU.
This makes me happy. He's my favorite character.
Baby do you want a bottle? Maybe bedtime story?
Jarivs: You're coming with me.
Peggy: *punches him*
Jarvis: *R U D E*
Time stamp?
@@ad16 0:21
@@issatowers2934 LOL ty
Jarivs
@@waynedeacon2736 JarVISION
Fact: The first and last human Vision laid his eyes on was Wanda.
You're cute
I'm not crying, you're crying!
@@I-speak-U-shut-it don't be creepy
...and now you begin to understand the Multiverse of Madness. Not just a catch phrase, but a place. Ancient One warned Steven of this. Steven's response? 'Teach me.'
@@chuma1977 Thor is not a human
A billionaire businessman who has a British butler , reminds me of someone else
Na na na na na na..na na na na na na Nana Batman!
@@jakeman025 ruined it
@@jakeman025 Sorry, I halfway through that turned it into the chicken dance
Ciel phantomhive from black butler? That’s who we’re talking about, right?- RIGHT?!
@@ColinRichardson hahahaha
I JUST now realized the music playing when Tony sends the nuke through the wormhole is the same music that plays when Tony struggles with Thanos for the stones in endgame 🤯
Wow that's right
Yes, both movies were composed by Alan Silvestri.
@@flagflow1232 its meant to symbolize both his sacrifices
I noticed when i watched endgame in the movie theater. Recognized it instantly after seeing the first avengers movie so many times. I think that more than anything else made me realize that tony was about to die.
It's one of my favorite pieces
The moment when Ultron attacked Jarvis I was genuinely scared for Jarvis
I was genuinely sad when I thought he was dead.
Now that I'm watching Wandavision, Vision's death in Infinity War saddens me even more😔😔
Well hes alive now so wipe your tears
@@coolworld520 just for now ...🥲🥲
Episode 6👀
Sadder when you think how Since Tony is Dead he basically lost his creator/ father if he ever comes back that would be just sad
@@neoterumi4772 no ultron was his creator
everyone sleeps on my boy edwin in agent carter, tony named his whole ass A.I. system after him. idk i just love edwins importance to the stark family and i hate that agent carter was cancelled and we didn’t get to see more of their story
:(
I don't comment much but frick yeah TTvTT AC's cancellation will always feel like an open wound DX
I really feel that James D'Arcy (AC's Jarvis) really brought to life the person Tony tried to commemorate/revive in JARVIS/Vision. I can imagine him (and Anna of course 🥺) being there for young!Tony... just being there- spoiling, scolding, but most of all, caring for him as he grew up
Mark 42 really took a beating. It had a house dropped on it, it flew thousands of miles and ran out of power, hit by a truck, and blown up XD
Overall 5th best suit
@@jonathansauceda589 Veronica #1 for me. Yes, nano tech is all cool and all.. but being the coolest/most advanced doesn't make it my favourite.
It's one of my favourite suits. I like the way Iron Man 3 focused on Mark 42 and it's relationship with Tony. It's as if the suit had a personality.
@@flagflow1232 ikr, the unfinished look just does something for me, plus like Tony throughout the movie, it barely held on but stayed strong
So when the suit was destroyed and Tony looked at it like a best friend died....that hit for me
@@ninjanibba4259 yea, when he called out "Jarvis" to the suit, and said "don't leave me buddy..." I was like. 🥺
I didn't realize he was my favorite character until he died & I cried. Great person, great character.
It's just because of the bond, we got attached to him since the start with tony and Peppa(with voice) and seeing him dying is unbearable 🤧🤧
LMAOOO I FORGOT HE WAS IN THAT MEMORIAM VID IN SPIDER-MAN NOOO
Me too 😞
Literally the only picture they had on him was a blurry one
Next to Captain and Natasha too T uT makes you wonder if it was confirmed that Cap'n actually passed away in the 8 months since Endgame--
From being an actual human butler from the 40’s, to be the most powerful synthezoid on earth on 2023
Vision is underrated .
Not with WandaVision.
He was only underrated in age of ultron and civil war.
Brilliantly played by Paul Bettany
And James D'Arcy in Agent Carter
Expecially in WandaVision.
@@errorschnansch1892 you can really feel his emotions in episode 5
Yep
@@cottonfloss7951 Yes, soooo good!
Like if Jarvis was better than Friday
Both are awesome!
Friday didn’t really have much a chance to shine though.
@@unknownperson203 We might get more Friday in future Spiderman films though, no?
Wait, nevermind, I confused Friday with Edith I think.
I think Friday was pretty cool. Jarvis will always be the best for me, but I’m sad that we didn’t get to see more of her.
Anyone else realise most of the main cast for agent carter is british? Jarvis, Agent carter, Howard Stark?
you mean bri ish?
@@hiroparadise8152 no, it's BRITISH. They speak posh/high reflection British, not cockney as in Taron Eggerton. 🤘🏾
And this focuses on, slightly, how some British citizens fought in the early version of the Allied Forces for WWI and what happened to those who stayed stateside.
@@sersastark You mean WW2
@@hiroparadise8152 igs-akly
*Edwin Jarvis needs to be more talked about. Let's talk about him. He is ICONIC.*
Lmao no one replied
Just realized that Edwin Jarvis and Vision have very similar characteristics. I wonder if this was intentional by the actor who plays Edwin.
What was first? Agent Carter or Age of Ultron?
Well, yeah... Tony created him to be like his father's Butler, who basically helped raise him, while Howard was always busy or cheating on his wife.
@@samd8872 I believe it was age of Ultron.
@@Craigy2818 This would be an acting choice, not something written in the script. Also, the filming process for Agent Carter would have been during the release of Age of Ultron, so either this is an insane coincidence, or Paul Bettany (Vision) and James D'Arcy (Edwin Jarvis) had discussed ways to make the two characters similar.
Paul Bettany the Vision actor was the voice of J.A.R.V.I.S. since the first iron man. So the actor that plays Edwin Jarvis took vocal cues from him
"I request elaboration"- paul bettany's voice is so perfectly dramatically robotic
“Jarvision”
This comment is underrated
Nah
Edwin Jarvis is amazing. Change my mind
Edit: and super underrated. Everyone is talking about JARVIS and Vision but Edwin Jarvis is so great!
Yeah
No? Because I agree 110%
Peggy and Jarvis out solving mysteries was such a delight. I miss that show so much ☹️
Well going by the MCU timeline if there were no Edwin Jarvis there would be no Vision (as he would be with JARVIS anyway).
I love so much Edwin Jarvis
@@karolynagrandez7324 me too!
Also, respectfully, you should phrase it as "I love Edwin Jarvis so much."
I am not trying to be mean in any way by correcting you, I'm just trying to help.
The transition from Avengers to Iron Man 3 is funny as hell.
That hammer scene will always be pure gold
🔨 ✨
Update far from home takes place 2024 and WandaVision 2023
no, wandavision takes place 3 weeks after endgame
@@omegs uhhmmm yeah 3 weeks after endgame and still in year 2023
@@omegs yeah, in 2023, what is the point of this comment.
@@omegs Spider-Man takes place 8 months after endgame
@@omegs endgame takes place in October 2023 while far from home takes place in the summer of 2024
Just A Rather Very Intelligent System is my favorite version
„I have been a voice with no body“
A body but not human“
and now...
...“a memory made real“
"Who knows what I might be next"
@@mysunshineisturningintoabl2307 white robot
" I have been a voice with no body, a body but not human, and now... a memory made real. Who knows what I might be next... " - The Vision( Wandavision )
I am loving WandaVision so much! I'm gonna be so sad when it's done!
When it’s done next week we will be sad together
11 days for 1st episode of FatWS
In the original Iron man, Tony Stark said that Jarvis was created by accident. Could it be that the original Jarvis's memories were saved by Howard Start using experimental technology and it was Tony who was able resurrect Jarvis consciousness?
When did he say that??
Mind stone.
So J.A.R.V.I.S is actually conscious? Meaning that Vision really can live without the mind stone?
@@glitchyx6995 no he’s just another (or a) rather very intelligent system... and if I remembered that correctly I’d be amazed.
@@dubbingsync Actually yes, Vision can live on his own, especially in the comics. When he was initially created he was an android body (OG Human Torch) with Hank Pym's brainwaves and the powers of Wonder Man. I would see why not in the MCU, and I mean Shuri was figuring that part out until Thanos arrived and Vision wanted to die so Thanos couldn't get the mind stone.
When ultron first attacked Jarvis as an AI, it made me sad and upset so yeah, I'm attached
It’s sad when I just now relized in the first avenger movie the last person he wanted to talk to was pepper his wife...end game she was the last person he spoke to
😭
I was so happy when James D'Arcy appeared in Avengers Endgame
12:45 the being that Wanda will literally change the world for
She literally made it her sex doll like bruh she fell in love with a robot who has had memories of a man from the 1940-1980s she has a multi billion dollar sex doll that was made to protect the world and defeat ultron and fell in love with a fucking robot
@@Official_Chivo.06 ok
@@Official_Chivo.06 bro what are you talking about. Even Vision said he's neither Ultron nor J.A.R.V.I.S. He's a synthetic being not a robot. But hey oh its just fiction right
@@Official_Chivo.06 wtf are you talking about??
@Official_Lifter.06 what a horrible way to look at it
13:22 Thor's face kills me every time
Me too 😂😂😂😂
Fun fact: The first human that Vision laid eyes on was Wanda
It was thor or cap or Tony
He looked at thor
@@plagganimations845 thor isn't human
@@crypticwonder8119 oh human person!
@ariella woah... really...??? I guess you learn something new everyday
fun fact in the german version they actually used the same person who synchronizes the part of J.A.R.V.I.S/Vision for the buttler so they sound all the same.
It's the same for English
J.A.R.V.I.S. and Vision is the same actor, Paul Bettany.
I would hope that happened around the world because that’s what happens in the story of AOU.
@@thebusybeanhomecafe4035 but the butler has a different actor and therefore voice no ? because in german all three have the same voice
@@CharlieeMusic I was pretty sure he was the same voice.
Imagine the wandavision show called wandajarvis😂
He got to serve Howard stark AND his son
And maybe Morgan one day
@@Ava-np9xn Hopefully
and scarlet witch as her sex doll
@@Official_Chivo.06 oop-
@@Official_Chivo.06 bruh
all the people who disliked are agents of hydra
I’m just wondering why Tony and Vision aren’t closer because Vision is technically Jarvis
Exactly what I have in mind
No, they just share the same voice.
@@MissMiserize vision is jarvis, lmao
@@MissMiserize "no, i want to help you put jarvis into this body"(not entirely accurate) -tony stark
@@joeyweed5399 J.A.R.V.I.S. isn't Jarvis.
I remember a scene in season 2 of Agent Carter when Howard Stark installed an alarm system in his mansion using Jarvis voice.
"It's alright you could never hurt me I just feel you"
-Vision
The look on everyone's face when he Lifts the hammer as Vision always makes me smile with satisfaction.
How does Ironman have so much space in his helmet lol
smol hed
It's a tardis
I made the helmet once with pepakura and i couldn't see shit lmao
It's virtual.
I've been wondering too, tbh.
I must say British Butlers are another breed. Fascinating,stylish,classy❤
This is extremely well made, nice work dude!
This is bloody amazing!
It's a shame that we never saw Tony and Jarvis together. The fact that Tony named an AI after him hints how important Edwin Jarvis was to him in life. There's always flashbacks to when Tony was younger, but I just can't think of necessary situation for them to show that outside of maybe an episode of What If...?.
Just now realized it’s the same actor for vision
Wandavision plays in the year 2023 because the event that started this was couple of weeks after Avengers Endgame.
Wanda and Vision are my OTP in this fandom
Great video! Except Spiderman Far From Home is in 2024 not 2023. Betty Brand says after the "memorial" video that its been 8 months since the snap. The snap was on octorber 2023, while peter's trip is on june/july 2024. (Wandavision is 3 weeks after endgame, 7 months before spiderman) other than that, Great Video!
OOhh, didn't know it was set prior to spiderman ffh.. Thank you
Also Iron Man 1 is set in October 2010, while Iron man 2 takes place 6 months later, so early 2011.
Wait, so does that mean that Wandavision takes place before far from home?!?😲😲😲
@@decoderhacker4062 yesss
@@ladiddas Ironman 1 is in 2008. That's why Vision mentions in Civil War "In the 8 years since Mr. Stark announced himself as Ironman...". Civil War is in 2016.
Agents Carter was Fantastic
I loved JARVIS who is a large component of Vision. They just are the same people to me! I hope Vision gets to live. 😥😥
I love that jarvis is now weiding one of the srongest things in the universe on his forehead
You mean he was wearing it.
@@DetectiveWarden yea WAS
wielding
@@horseoperamarker i was tired when i wrote that
@@thattwoguy i see
My favourite character(s)!
I kind of forgot Jarvis's voice, more used to him as Vision, back when was AI never noticed his voice, now seeing these clips make me realize how close Tony feels to Vision, a father and son feeling.
From butler to secret agent to a.i. program to magic robot to magic approximation of the memory of a magic robot. What a legacy
I wish vision had more screen time with avengers.
After watched all mcu movies and series, I watched Age of ultron again and damn that moment when Wanda feels Vision in the cradle and said he dreaming. She could feels him before he was born, so I realized how deep their relationships were. :'(
Their story is so genuinely deep ans romantic. They always felt natural together
Vision: make a soup
Me:
Jarvis Ramsay
Stew
Just “a pinch” of paprika??? Yeah.... right... my nana says otherwise 😂😂
I don't think anybody's spirits will be lifted by paprikash with only a pinch of paprika. That's just sad.
James D'Arcy as Edwin Jarvis is perfection.
15:28 that's exactly what vision is doing in wandavision! He's breaking free from Wanda's reality.
It's weird that Edwin Jarvis died then Tony stark created Jarvis the AI and then later put it inside Vision
It's like another Jarvis was leaving again, but except he was a robot
GD! How many times this guy gonna die?
and then Vision died too
Yeah Jarvis was a program so they could’ve made a copy of Jarvis and put that copy into the android body.
I just noticed the last three letters of Jarvis spell "Vis"
I FREAKIN LOVE JARVIS/vision
Been a fan of the MCU since Iron Man 1 and today I just found out there's an Agent Carter Tv show 🤦♂️
It’s pretty cool.
don't worry. same with me 😅
Wow.. I really enjoyed watching that.. Thank you. 👍🏾
11:03 J.A.R.V.I.S.'s "mind" looks so organized and geometrical, like pure logic, while Ultron is more irregular and unstable, like emotions.
Jarvis in Agent Carter is so lovable and amazing. Such a talented actor, and even in season two with the (kinda terrible) script they were given, he was incredible working with what they were given.
17:38 the events in Wandavision take place before before Spiderman far from home
8:59 [SCREAMING] [SCREAMING CONTINUES] [GRUNTING]
idky, but seeing vision kinda baffled that he didn't know he could be distracted was cool to see
Jarvis wife is um, really interesting
Well they are an unusual couple
@@neelm.59 best comment I've seen recently
I think you meant "passionately eccentric"
lmao
Oh I forgot that vision is Jarvis 💀💀💀🤣🤣
Edwin Jarvis and Ana Jarvis, the best characters in all MCU period.
The actor that plays Edwin Jarvis in Avengers Endgame sounds the most similar to Paul bettany’s Jarvis imo
The actor in Avengers Endgame (James d'Arcy) is also the actor from Agent Carter; so Jarvis, JARVIS, and Vision are only played by two different people.
Ai Jarvis when he gets attacked by Ultron was just a whole different feeling
Jarvis was an actual person and then he was turned into robot
Think about it : Paul Bettany has been involved with the MCU franchise for a longer time than RDJ.
Jarvis's Sound is closer to the sound of Vision
Because Jarvis is Vision
Jarvis was always Paul Bettany (except in the olden times) so the transition to Vision was natural
@@ncisfan1002 Yas
Agent Carter was a different show, like it was part of the MCU but it didn’t feel like it. But it’s probably because the didn’t reference things outside the show that much. When I heard ROXXON I was like 😯 and gamma
So this is my rival
The first two sections at least. Vision wasn't really a butler.
vision is such a softie
Pretty much Jarvis is, has & always be a father figure to Tony
Thank you for this.
Now you're gonna have to add The White Vision in another video
12:45 Wanda ready to risk it all
Just “a pinch” of paprika??? Yeah.... right... my nana says otherwise 😂😂
16:42 you skipped the entire cap fight scene where vision is stabbed, is carried to Wakanda, and is on the table where Shuri attempts on him.
Jarvis > vision 😭😭😭😭❤️ I miss that ai.... I really wished Jarvis was there in endgame last moment with rdj
Don't forget vision's real wife is the voice of a spiderman's suit.