Fate Lore - The Tale of Medea

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    Taking a break from Tsukihime, we turn our focus back to Fate for the Tale of Medea. This one is almost entirely covered in FSN and Hollow Ataraxia, with no need to pad or flourish the story with other interpretations of the legend. As such, this is NOT the real story of Medea as you might read in historical literature, it is the specific character from Type-Moon.
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  • @NauyaWasTaken
    @NauyaWasTaken 6 лет назад +666

    At least in Carnival Phantasm she gets to live a happy life together with Souichirou.
    Getting married and going to Hawaii~

    • @izayahasegawa514
      @izayahasegawa514 5 лет назад +25

      Yeah... If the (Main) Fate Servants' backstories (and Illya's death) get to you, just watch Noble Phantasm. (or Illya Prisma)

    • @cathpalug1221
      @cathpalug1221 5 лет назад +32

      Dont forget, in emiya dinner she cooks for him

    • @alanblazed9737
      @alanblazed9737 5 лет назад +7

      And Len Is There Daughter!

    • @jacek107ify
      @jacek107ify 4 года назад +14

      its canon though, as it is setting of Fate/hollow ataraxia.
      which is continued in Emiya-san chi

    • @robert23456789
      @robert23456789 4 года назад +17

      whats why i feel sorry for this caster all she wanted to be is loved and scored the worst luck for a master but then she killed him and found a man to care for her who she loved and loved her back so in the end she got her wish

  • @GohanLSSJ2
    @GohanLSSJ2 6 лет назад +596

    Between this and Medusa's life...
    I'm glad Kratos did the bastards in.

    • @Wildeye13
      @Wildeye13 5 лет назад +39

      For his continuity only. The Greek Gods in the Nasuverse are still around.

    • @uncreativename9652
      @uncreativename9652 4 года назад +87

      Imagine Kratos as a Berserker or Saber-type heroic spirit in the Nasuverse. Just imagine. 😰 ⚔️

    • @wassupyall1940
      @wassupyall1940 4 года назад +4

      I’m actually dead 💀

    • @LoneWolf20213
      @LoneWolf20213 4 года назад +18

      @@uncreativename9652 that's game over their, even someone like Gilgamish would probably get his ass kicked by him

    • @John-Stark
      @John-Stark 4 года назад +22

      @@uncreativename9652 Oh he would be an Avenger (While Dad Kratos would be a Saber and General Kratos being a Beserker)

  • @WeskerUmbrella4
    @WeskerUmbrella4 6 лет назад +412

    In the end, Medea isn't evil at all.
    Her entire life came tumbling down and she was never to blame for any of it because she never had any choice to begin with.

    • @firepuppies4086
      @firepuppies4086 5 лет назад +39

      Part of me considered how it would have gone if she was picked up by shirou, but ya know what? Soichirou needed her. She needed him. They are perfect for each other and deserve a happy ending

    • @jacek107ify
      @jacek107ify 4 года назад +20

      some stories can be considered
      "good vs good"
      Character like that might oppose main protagonist goal, but his/her goal might be also pretty noble.
      Caster never actually killed anyone. She simply stole people mana.
      She even saved all people kidnapped by Atrum callista

    • @RpgBlasterRpg
      @RpgBlasterRpg 4 года назад +4

      Everyone:She not evil looolll
      *proceed to kill shirou 7 time in the vn*

    • @FurrySupportMain
      @FurrySupportMain 4 года назад +9

      @@RpgBlasterRpg well shirou was a master in the battle royal she was in of course she has no choice but to kill him or she couldnt get her wish granted

    • @darkwhispersstories47
      @darkwhispersstories47 3 года назад +5

      @@RpgBlasterRpg Hmm almost like they wore in a War or something

  • @MrInuhanyou123
    @MrInuhanyou123 7 лет назад +224

    Medea has always been a sympathetic character to me despite being a sadist. Her being an Arturiacon gives me empathetic feels

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  7 лет назад +31

      My room is a lot like hers, lol.

    • @pforgottonsoul
      @pforgottonsoul 7 лет назад +10

      maybe because she was portrayed as a villain in UBW but i sometimes find it hard for me to like her.

    • @MrInuhanyou123
      @MrInuhanyou123 7 лет назад +5

      by the way daikun, just an ask, whenever you do a tsukihime video again, you can use "justice" from the JC staff adaption? That's one of my favorite songs despite the adaption itself

    • @MrInuhanyou123
      @MrInuhanyou123 7 лет назад +7

      well yeah, she was a ruthless antagonist from the perspective of shirou, rin and arturia, as well as the other participants of the war and even most of the humans in fuyuki, but even ruthless antagonists have their own personalities. Archer would have joined her in her quest, because in a way he was just as in despair and without purpose as she was based on their histories

    • @jacek107ify
      @jacek107ify 4 года назад +10

      in what way is she sadistic???
      she is a bit ruthless, but situation here is totally understood.
      She actually didn't kill anyone. She simply stole people mana. She also saved all people kidnapped by her master
      Ruthless doesn't mean sadistic....
      (Rin and Shirou sometimes were ready to take more ruthless actions too.
      Shirou was willing to kill Shinji. Saber and Rin wanted to kill Illya when Berserker was gone and she was at mercy point.)
      they all are in severly dangerous situation, as a result none of them are willing to always take most morally right choice

  • @averagejoe3905
    @averagejoe3905 6 лет назад +591

    Medea would've probably been the sweetest servant ever if Jason and Aphrodite didn't ruin her life

    • @romu_umu4681
      @romu_umu4681 6 лет назад +42

      Average Joe she became a servant because of what happened to her. Lol.

    • @averagejoe3905
      @averagejoe3905 6 лет назад +77

      Kaijuusuru she probably would accomplished other things seeing as she was trained by a goddess

    • @romu_umu4681
      @romu_umu4681 6 лет назад +29

      Average Joe zeus had a lot of kid from other mortal girls. Yet some of them are not even famous. Just because she was trained by a god doesn't mean she'll accomplish achievements

    • @misdreavuscharizard4934
      @misdreavuscharizard4934 6 лет назад +32

      Kaijuusuru well there is always Medea Lily

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  6 лет назад +48

      She could have done a lot of cool stuff. Problem is we'll never know for sure.

  • @azizsaidy1135
    @azizsaidy1135 7 лет назад +287

    Ah, Medea, an incredibly underrated female in TYPE MOON.
    She really is a fantastic character. Glad you made a video on her, nice job!

  • @rockinjoker07
    @rockinjoker07 6 лет назад +242

    It's time to appreciate best girl in all of Type Moon

  • @thegardenofesim1174
    @thegardenofesim1174 6 лет назад +190

    Thank you very much for featuring my fave character in fate series. I am still crying
    But the true ending in my world for Medea is none other from carnival phantasm. She's enjoying there in Hawaii

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  6 лет назад +41

      I love her obsession with Saber stuff.

    • @twopunchman9598
      @twopunchman9598 6 лет назад +13

      If I got to pick any one carnival phantasm servant, I would pick Medea... or maybe Saber Lion.

  • @ph3rtehHDawg
    @ph3rtehHDawg 6 лет назад +330

    I swear, if Jason becomes a summon, even an SSR one, I'm straight up feeding him to Medea; he ain't even worth a rare prism in my book. >:(
    Edit: Okay, I'll need to rethink my opinion of him after Lostbelt 5. He's still a jerk, but he's definitely not as bad as what first impressions gave. He really does show how he became captain of a crew of Greece's greatest heroes.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  6 лет назад +56

      ph3rtehHDawg That's a good idea.

    • @pablo9234
      @pablo9234 5 лет назад +39

      i love medea but in jason's defense he didn't know that the gods would be so shitty towards medea, whose yandere-ish love scared him. And he actually isn't that bad as a person as even alcides told his master that he would kill him if he didn't stop to criticize jason.

    • @Khader1093
      @Khader1093 4 года назад +9

      Oi Ooi Oooi
      Herculesssssuuuuu~

    • @Mouseforatu
      @Mouseforatu 4 года назад +25

      He is a 1* Bronze saber who orders Atalanta, Heracles, and Medea Lily to attack for him, and they always beat him up, especially in the NP.
      His third skill is pretty useful. Not for him but for allies. It gives Argo-Realted heros a lot of buffs. So Atalanta, Herc, Medea/Lily, any hero that was on the Argo save Jason will get a lot of buffs.

    • @Anuppuzero
      @Anuppuzero 4 года назад +15

      @The Hoplite to be fair, that wasn't her fault. It was Aphrodite's fault since she cursed her with a blinding love for Jason. Neither Jason nor Medea were aware of that

  • @FullchanAnon
    @FullchanAnon 6 лет назад +132

    If you want to read a "Medea Route" like Fate story, I recommend trying "Path of the King" Fanfiction where Shirou is Medea's Master while Rin successfully manages to summon Saber.

  • @Killertron00
    @Killertron00 6 лет назад +125

    It's wrong for me to wish some kind of happy ending for her, even after all she has done?
    She is not the only one of course, i feel that for most of the servants in the fate series(but some just deserve to die a second time), right now im playing fate extra, and every servant and master i fight, is a stab to the heart.
    Anyway, nice video man.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  6 лет назад +27

      Most servants have tragic ends both in life and as heroic spirits. That's why Hollow Ataraxia and Carnival Phantasm are so fun.

    • @MadRabbit116
      @MadRabbit116 6 лет назад +1

      killertron it got cancelled just like illya's route

    • @smollnano
      @smollnano 6 лет назад +5

      I'm playing Fate Extra too, I was really sorry for Rider in the first round, but Shinji? Nah...

    • @LeonValCh
      @LeonValCh 6 лет назад +4

      Except the first fight. Let's admit it: None of them are actually likeable.
      Oh, btw, your last two opponents aren't exactly likeable either. I hated their guts and they're truly dangerous. IMO they deserved to die.

    • @monduvdsan
      @monduvdsan 6 лет назад +3

      I Half agree with you on the first figt. For me Rider was a blast, but I just wanted to make Shinji scream like a bitch. And about the last one, The servant was actually kinda likeable, and about the master I didn't really care. Just one more spoiled brat, but at least one that wasn't flamboyant or egotistic about it, imo.

  • @holyforce000
    @holyforce000 6 лет назад +264

    I really despise those assholes who called themselves gods; I consider Medusa and Medea to have not truly lived thanks to the pettiness of the Greek gods. I admire Medea to be one of the most powerful magic users from the Age of Gods. Why oh why did they make her a 3* star servant thanks to the info we were given about her? Oh well, at least she'll be easier to upgrade.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  6 лет назад +38

      The stars are more for popularity than strength, or so I hear.

    • @ellion8195
      @ellion8195 6 лет назад +21

      While that argument does hold weight it's not true all the time. For example servants like Enkidu (Lancer) Gil's only true friend and King Hassan (Assassin) are justified as 5* servants based on their legends. Cu Chulainn is probably justified as a 3* lancer because his 5* version is a berserker and what he's apparently more famous for. He even states that he was known more for his ferocious fighting style iirc. However Jack the Ripper plays that argument straight since her stats as a servant don't really justify her 5* status.

    • @LoboEye
      @LoboEye 6 лет назад +6

      If Jason ever becomes a servant, the Golden Fleece will be a powerful Noble Phantasm.

    • @ichinoshina2738
      @ichinoshina2738 6 лет назад +15

      while people are all saying shit about the greek gods, i think the people that also play fate GO forgot about artemis XD

    • @pabloosset2533
      @pabloosset2533 6 лет назад +7

      holyforce000 The 3 stars rating I think is more like Cu (F/SN) or Robin Hood. They are extremely powerful servants and easy to get and upgrade. Helps a lot to complete missions if ya don't have any great gold servants.
      And then there's The Regend. A true miracle.

  • @meh4294
    @meh4294 2 года назад +4

    Her ,Medusa, and Cu deserved better ,atleast they live happily in the cooking spinoff

  • @notsobadguy1894
    @notsobadguy1894 6 лет назад +73

    the 1 dislike is from jason

  • @fromeggman
    @fromeggman 6 лет назад +106

    Lol all these people are just now starting to realize that the Olympians were quite callous and ruthless.

    • @Wildeye13
      @Wildeye13 5 лет назад +10

      Though it's worth pointing out a lot of these stories of the Greek gods and even certain heroes are based on plays and poetry made to entertain rather than portray the Gods accurately. It got to a point that a philosopher (Can't remember who) pointed out that the gods weren't acting like gods in these works and pretty much a portion of his work was criticizing them and their creators.

    • @jacek107ify
      @jacek107ify 4 года назад +8

      it wasn't ruthless, there wasn't any necessity in their actions....
      it was plain amoral, egomaniacal and pure evil
      Their ego was soo enormous that they were willing to kill people for minor annoyance.

    • @John-Stark
      @John-Stark 4 года назад +2

      I realized it during God of War

    • @RandomL0s3r
      @RandomL0s3r 3 года назад +2

      I knew that ever since I knew (After my childhood of watching Hercules) that Zeus can't keep it in his pants and Hera can't keep Zeus' willy in check

    • @ralphjiandelacruz9593
      @ralphjiandelacruz9593 3 года назад +4

      @@RandomL0s3r one of the reasons i stop reading percy jackson. i cant stop thinking what will i do to zeus if i put myself as someone stronger in the book

  • @ianw.8101
    @ianw.8101 7 лет назад +33

    My favorite caster ooo thanks

  • @Fragamitake
    @Fragamitake 6 лет назад +41

    Medea finally got her love!

    • @77Yuki
      @77Yuki 6 лет назад +3

      But not the ending she want. :c

  • @JohnPeacekeeper
    @JohnPeacekeeper 6 лет назад +29

    Most waifu Heroic Spirit

  • @aerithhyacinth8393
    @aerithhyacinth8393 7 лет назад +54

    When jason's released he's going to the 2nd archive along with the farming hands (props to anyone who gets it)

    • @MarkATorres1989
      @MarkATorres1989 6 лет назад +1

      I think I'll be taking a sadistic pleasure to wrecking him in both encounters and should I get him the gatcha bit, just feed him to someone more deserving.

    • @GarMori
      @GarMori 6 лет назад +14

      Mark Torres If I ever get him in the gacha, he will either be fed to one of the two Medeas, or he will be burned.

    • @firepuppies4086
      @firepuppies4086 5 лет назад +2

      @@GarMori don't feed him to Medea! His essence is not to tarnish her further in the slightest

    • @kylesky74
      @kylesky74 3 года назад +1

      wow what assholes honestly it's not even his fault for any of this he just wanted the fleece

  • @nb6806
    @nb6806 6 лет назад +2

    Thank you for making these

  • @pabloosset2533
    @pabloosset2533 6 лет назад +26

    Best girl. My favourite Caster in Fate GO so far. And, honestly, one of my favourite characters in Fate Stay Night.
    God, the end of her and her Master in UBW route... Fucking destroyed my heart.
    Btw, great video. As always, you make the best videos of this kind.

  • @lpk675
    @lpk675 6 лет назад +27

    Well, thanks to Fate/hollow ataraxia, we can at least know that Medea did get her happy ending.

    • @jacek107ify
      @jacek107ify 4 года назад +1

      she got a bit bored though and had period of being Saber otaku ;D
      Soichirou forgave her though ;)

  • @jevonrodgers4599
    @jevonrodgers4599 3 года назад +4

    I always loved Medea because underneath her rough personality laid an innocent girl wanting a home to return to and to be loved unconditionally

  • @GrilledSoup
    @GrilledSoup 6 лет назад

    Love these videos m80. They really bring out their story.

  • @Sativa989
    @Sativa989 2 года назад +1

    Goated Fate lore video (Medea) i rewatched this so many times I have lost count so nostalgic. 🥲

  • @FullMetalNate
    @FullMetalNate 6 лет назад +31

    You cant help but feel sorry for Caster after this. 😯😯😯

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  6 лет назад +4

      NATHAN TRYNER It's even worse in the heaven's feel movie.

    • @papathicctm6465
      @papathicctm6465 6 лет назад +1

      I don't need that reminder...

  • @arturiapendragon2828
    @arturiapendragon2828 6 лет назад

    Thanks for the new Lore vid!😆😆😆😆

  • @imthrillz5255
    @imthrillz5255 6 лет назад +30

    Medea is best girl

  • @RothurThePaladin
    @RothurThePaladin 7 лет назад

    Great as always.

  • @kami9143
    @kami9143 6 лет назад +38

    I wonder what a Avenger Medea would be like

    • @ssjokg4952
      @ssjokg4952 6 лет назад +17

      The one that killed her kids certainly.

    • @manuellara9644
      @manuellara9644 6 лет назад +4

      od geo That would make sense

    • @gottesurteil3201
      @gottesurteil3201 4 года назад +1

      Her noble phantasm could involve her dragon chariot, although that would be more appropriate as a rider class.

  • @cake6851
    @cake6851 7 лет назад +67

    Pretty good waifu.....
    If she didn't take up my damn fgo rolls.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  7 лет назад +13

      Rather her than Caesar.

    • @pforgottonsoul
      @pforgottonsoul 7 лет назад

      she is good though, instant np and buff removal she is pretty much the only reason i passed the grand finale in nero fest.

    • @cake6851
      @cake6851 7 лет назад +1

      OtakuDaiKun Anything is better than faber

    • @cake6851
      @cake6851 7 лет назад

      patrick watkins But do I look like I'm trying to spend QUARTZ on her?

    • @MaxHDAvenger
      @MaxHDAvenger 6 лет назад

      Cake# what about her Lily form?

  • @BeyondEllisBeck
    @BeyondEllisBeck 6 лет назад +74

    NASU, WHERE IS THAT SHIROU AND MEDEA CASTER ROUTE!?

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  6 лет назад +11

      BeyondEllisBeck They don't exactly get along^^;

    • @BeyondEllisBeck
      @BeyondEllisBeck 6 лет назад +5

      OtakuDaiKun that's the point. Their ideals would clash at first but Shirou would eventually change her.

    • @BeyondEllisBeck
      @BeyondEllisBeck 6 лет назад +20

      OtakuDaiKun Imagine if Shirou was the one who found Medea instead of Sorichiro? Furthermore, because of both her and Shirou's personalities they will have the most complex relationship. She has sacrificed a great deal and has even suffered from the bitter taste of betrayal. While Shirou on the other hand, wants to walk the path of a righteous hero who saves all he can at any cost. What would make this the best in my opinion, would be because both of their ideals would clash at first. Masters and Servants are even able to share memories since (in a sense) they become connected. So Medea should be able to see Shirou's past, as the same for Shirou viewing hers. However, through kind and persistent actions I'm sure caster could not help but begin to change and see that through Shirou there is actually some good in the world and not everyone views her as a (witch.) Meaning it would lead to her becoming romantically interested in him.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  6 лет назад +7

      BeyondEllisBeck That does sound cool.

    • @BeyondEllisBeck
      @BeyondEllisBeck 6 лет назад +8

      OtakuDaiKun I wanted this so bad I started asking people how I could get in contact with Nasu and ask him myself. But from what I hear, did you know in the original fate/stay concept Caster was supposed to be Shirou's Servant instead of Saber but Nasu ended up scraping it because it wasnt popular between his/her staff members? Literally, Medea could have been his actual servant from the get-go.

  • @wassupyall1940
    @wassupyall1940 4 года назад +5

    Not only is she hot, but she’s extremely smart and powerful. Medea has a powerful Nobel phantasm I gasp. I’m mainly talking about the anime and not FGO

  • @LeonValCh
    @LeonValCh 6 лет назад +19

    Medea's story is a true tragedy. She suffered the unimaginable.
    And all for choosing the wrong man.
    Worst of it all, it wasn't even her who chose him. It was a goddess putting a mind control spell over her.
    Seriously, I've always thought the Greek gods are pure, unadulterated evil.

    • @ousamadearudesuwa
      @ousamadearudesuwa 6 лет назад +2

      UrielTheJudge
      And the Greeks themselves never saw the Gods, excluding Hades, Persephone, and the Graces as the purest among all.

    • @firepuppies4086
      @firepuppies4086 5 лет назад +1

      Hades: Oy vey... Ok, I realize that taking this girl was wrong... Here is what I'll do. I can't exactly just let her go now, but, I can let her be up top for 3/4ths of the year. the last 1/4th she comes back with me. But don't worry, I'll make sure there is stuff to do. I love to play board games, we can play Scrabble a bit of something. Maybe catch up and all that, ya know?

    • @Fanimati0n
      @Fanimati0n 4 года назад +3

      Except Hestia & Hades. Those two actually aren't bad. Hestia was a sweetheart, & Hades just stayed in Hades doing his job all day. He never got invited to do stuff with the other Olympians, so he just dedicated himself to his job & his prized rose garden. Kidnapping Persephone is possibly the most evil thing he's done, & she doesn't even really mind it too terribly much after she gets used to spending half a year with him annually.

    • @xaviaxs
      @xaviaxs 4 года назад

      @@Fanimati0n i mean between all the greek god couples they had the best relationship since she really didn´t willingly cheated on him except that time zeus disguised as hades and had an affair with him and hades was very loyal since he was not interested in fucking around like his brothers and i think no godess would willingly try to seduce him, even aphrodite

  • @CatastropheX0
    @CatastropheX0 6 лет назад +38

    If Gilgamesh is chasing after your ass, you better just give up

    • @77Yuki
      @77Yuki 6 лет назад +2

      He would stop for nothing to get your ass... except if you got an Enkidu to throw to his face.

    • @Irmarinen
      @Irmarinen 6 лет назад

      Unless you're named Lancelot.

    • @markofdibella8802
      @markofdibella8802 6 лет назад +1

      Semiramis would probably rek Gilgamesh ONLY if they are in the Gardens of Babylon but who wouldn’t she rek honestly?

    • @bb-chan4849
      @bb-chan4849 6 лет назад +1

      mark of Dibella honestly, the hanging gardens is so broken once you get it running i honestly wouldnt doubt that she couldnt.

    • @ghostofhallownest3433
      @ghostofhallownest3433 3 года назад

      Doesn't it give region bonus, in which case gilgamesh would also get that bonus.

  • @jameswest6232
    @jameswest6232 3 года назад +5

    I commented about this on the Medusa video, but I'd love to see a story where Medusa, Sakura, and Medea all play off each other. Both Servants could easily relate to Sakura's horrifying situation so much so that Rider canonically is pretty much trying to make up for past sins by making sure Sakura doesn't lose her humanity like she did.
    -
    Medea would likely be a much more nuanced dynamic since you could make the argument that she's potentially what Sakura could become if no one helps her even without the Shadow messing with her (insanely powerful mage, but broken and bitter after years of abuse and gaslighting). You could even play with how she might feel seeing Shiro being Sakura's friend and refuge (jealous of her having someone when she was cursed to be alone or wonder how her life might have changed if she had a friend, too). Really depends on whether she's an enemy or ally.

  • @Nymeon
    @Nymeon 6 лет назад

    ok...this made me realy, REALY sad somehow... and replaced gil on #2 fsn servant. I love ur lore videos, keep up the good work!

  • @TyJaff
    @TyJaff 6 лет назад

    Please keep going with these.

  • @BuraiMurian
    @BuraiMurian 7 лет назад +9

    Ah the story of Medea Caster ! Another fascinating and tragic tale...

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  7 лет назад +3

      I like the Kuzuki part since I never paid as much attention to him.

    • @pforgottonsoul
      @pforgottonsoul 7 лет назад

      also wasn't soujuro from mahoyo from the same assassination organization?

    • @adenyang4398
      @adenyang4398 6 лет назад

      Wasn't it mentioned that Soujuurou also received combat training when he was in the mountains?
      And I really would like other protagonists besides him that use high level martial arts and Breathing & Walking. It seems to be a topic that has been glossed over so far, but it seems to have ridiculous amount of potential.

    • @sakthivelmukulkrsh6059
      @sakthivelmukulkrsh6059 4 года назад

      Though she is commonly perceived as a physcotic and vengeful person

  • @spacethegamer6426
    @spacethegamer6426 6 лет назад +2

    It's nice te see that you went full "hollow ataraxia route" with Madea ^^
    Though I personally like her best in UBW

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  6 лет назад +1

      Yeah. I'd have to incorporate her fascination with Artoria during that route.

  • @luckyowl10
    @luckyowl10 2 года назад +2

    If Medea had a strong master, like Rin or Sakura, she would have won the 5th Holy Grail War. With a master with 0 magic she was capable of building an almost impenetrable base, summon her own Servant and fighting 1v1 with most servants. And if she would target the masters instead of the servants in a fight, which she can with her magic bullets and flame stuff that goes burn a human, she would be unstoppable. She can't stop OP things like Exaclibur, but no other servant is as flexible as she is.

  • @TheRevanchrist
    @TheRevanchrist 6 лет назад +65

    In my opinion, Norse and Celtics heroes are better than Greek personality wise. Cuchulian wished to compensate a man for killing his dog by offering his service , seigfried allowed himself to be a tool for his people though that what led to his death.

    • @PaulNBlack
      @PaulNBlack 6 лет назад +22

      Nathan .Z Siegfried is like some sort of Norse Shirou

    • @anhdinhlamduc5700
      @anhdinhlamduc5700 6 лет назад

      Nathan .Z I think Herk have a very good personality.

    • @TheRevanchrist
      @TheRevanchrist 6 лет назад

      anh dinh lam duc he is one of a few exceptions as he would have had a normal life if Hera was not determined to make him miserable just to get back at Zeus for cheating on her, again

    • @anhdinhlamduc5700
      @anhdinhlamduc5700 6 лет назад

      Nathan .Z then i think Achilles ams Chiron are aslo expections.

    • @myspacebarbrokenevermindif9892
      @myspacebarbrokenevermindif9892 6 лет назад +1

      Nathan .Z achilles is actually a pretty cool and emotional character in mythology if you analyse it.
      I recommend watching LindyBeiges video on "what the illiad is about"

  • @rafaelcomfsemph
    @rafaelcomfsemph 6 лет назад +1

    man, fate writing is heavenly good, i never knew the complete history of medea, but through dialogue and subtle cues in UBW i felt about her exactly how im feeling hearing the complete history, when she said to her master "the wish i would make to the holy grail was granted to me till this moment with you" her only desire is to be threated like a person and not a tool, and what irony, she got that from a fucking psychopath

  • @anonnimoose7987
    @anonnimoose7987 2 года назад +5

    Medea: Long version or short version?
    Archer: Abridge it for me.
    Medea: He summoned me, then mocked and slapped me, so I killed him, burnt his lab and freed his orphans.
    Archer: Okay, I changed my mind at "freed his orphans", I want the long version.
    Medea: *points at this video*

    • @lolbots686
      @lolbots686 Год назад

      Medea:what about you eh?
      Archer:....do you want the long or short story
      Medea:abridge it for me.
      Archer:well. Im the servant form of shiro,long time no see medea,i suffered immensely,got in the same grail war but different and now milenia of depression later i want it to end
      Medea:......oh. wow. ......thats....ok wow your life is infinitely worse then mine. ....wow.

    • @anonnimoose7987
      @anonnimoose7987 Год назад

      @@lolbots686 Nah it's: "MARBLES HURT ME"

  • @ChaoticTeen16
    @ChaoticTeen16 6 лет назад +9

    Personally, I feel that most of the Servants in the Grail Wars were given the shaft in one way or another, and Medea is one of the prime examples.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  6 лет назад

      A theme of Fate is redemption, so it makes sense.

    • @stylinsandwich
      @stylinsandwich Год назад

      First they get shafted in their history than they get shafted by fate

  • @low6324
    @low6324 3 года назад +2

    I summoned her in FGO and just got her to final ascension the other day, and now I'm crying. Medea and Medusa are both my favs, they should be more than 3 star servants in my opinion

  • @feliper9473
    @feliper9473 6 лет назад

    Thank you! I finally connect fate stay night fate route whit the past of Medea in fate hollow ataraxia

  • @shauqiharris2772
    @shauqiharris2772 3 месяца назад +1

    A very underrated waifu. Thank God she got a happy ending in Carnival Phantasm and Today's Menu For Emiya Family where she finally living happily ever after with Soichirou.

  • @TuffLP
    @TuffLP 6 лет назад +12

    We need the tale of Jeanne, Gilles and Prelati. Would be the first "historical" servant vid, too

    • @slice7700
      @slice7700 6 лет назад

      Tuff Jeanne is basically a carbon copy of the actual historical figure. Nasu didn't change anything about her like he did with Scathach or basically any other servant. Just google the historical figure and it'll mirror Nasuverse Jeanne.

    • @TuffLP
      @TuffLP 6 лет назад

      Accelerator Even then there is Prelati, Gilles and the whole counter force thing mentioned in KnK

    • @slice7700
      @slice7700 6 лет назад +2

      Tuff Prelati and Gilles would be good ones to cover. The counterforce is also a great topic to cover in general. KnK doesn't focus on the counterforce as much as it does origins and Akasha.

    • @bigocelot4002
      @bigocelot4002 6 лет назад

      What is KnK?

    • @TuffLP
      @TuffLP 6 лет назад

      Kara no Kyoukai.
      I think it was the 5th movie where they mentioned that Jeanne was one the people who used the Counter Force to strengthen herself

  • @jameswest6232
    @jameswest6232 3 года назад +2

    I really like Medea and I recently found the Path of the King story (basically a fanfic that describes what it might be like if Shiro actually had some training under his belt and was Caster's master instead of Saber's). It's surprisingly great and really nails the different characters in a new context.
    Does anyone know where I can find the whole story? The source I was looking at stopped after chapter 54.

  • @feikah8811
    @feikah8811 5 лет назад +2

    I've noticed that these lore videos usually only go by the perspective of a single route. This route was the Saber route, although would've been nice to see it from the Sakura and Rin route

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  5 лет назад +1

      The important part is their actual legend. That said a lot of people don't know the circumstances in the Fate route so I used that.

    • @feikah8811
      @feikah8811 5 лет назад

      @@otakudaikun I wholeheartly agree with you. Thanks for replying!

  • @fatelover9007
    @fatelover9007 5 лет назад

    This is one of the saddest lore videos, at least there was a happy moment

  • @vastnulanokia403
    @vastnulanokia403 6 лет назад +3

    Medea got the short end of the stick in life, but she has some beautiful artwork.

  • @twinone9121
    @twinone9121 5 лет назад +5

    The one OTP couple in Fate/Stay Night

  • @VladDascaliuc
    @VladDascaliuc 7 лет назад

    Are you planning on doing every major character's lore?
    That would be impressive.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  6 лет назад

      That's my goal, though some spirits are only relevant to other heroes' stories. Stheno and Euryale for instance probably won't have their own videos unless they get a lot more development.

  • @son1cprogrammer
    @son1cprogrammer 6 лет назад

    Cool!

  • @Cyclonestorm8
    @Cyclonestorm8 6 лет назад +37

    I'll be honest, I'm surprised you went with the Fate route. She had way more to do in UBW.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  6 лет назад +16

      Well you never really get to see what happens to them in the actual Fate route. They only show it in Hollow Ataraxia so I tried to show a part of her most people haven't seen.

    • @Cyclonestorm8
      @Cyclonestorm8 6 лет назад +1

      OtakuDaiKun Ah, okay then. Also, is that where you pulled that from, H.A.? I wasn't sure where the bit of Kuzuki dying came from(which I guess means you accomplished that goal).

    • @mirrorzone5224
      @mirrorzone5224 5 лет назад +2

      OtakuDaiKun I appreciate the sentiment of wanting to show fans a possible end to her story that they might have missed, but UBW is by far the most thematically resonant resolution to her story. Her life was one marked by betrayal and treachery. In UBW, despite having 2/3rds of the remaining servants on her side (through the use of rule breaking treachery no less), she's ultimately undone by Archer's betrayal. At the same time, Souichirou chooses to remain loyal to her past her death, thus giving Medea a bittersweet death as she is faced with confirmation of her first truly loyal loved one since becoming a witch as well as one final betrayal.

  • @zuser
    @zuser 6 лет назад +2

    Medea, you deserve to be happy :c

    • @Mazryonh
      @Mazryonh 6 лет назад +1

      Her aunt Circe did, at least with Odysseus and their son, Telemachus. But such was not in the stars for Medea.

  • @noahweathers4408
    @noahweathers4408 2 года назад

    A recent acquisition of my great-grandfather’s schoolbooks has included “The Heroes Or Greek Fairy Tales.” That story added yet another detail to Jason’s past, he made a promise to Chiron:
    “Speak harshly to no soul whom you may meet, and stand by the word which you shall speak.”
    Safe to say he failed miserably…

  • @emoon6618
    @emoon6618 3 года назад +3

    Honestly Kuzuki and Madea should've just moved to Canada or something and lived out their lives there

  • @merry6920
    @merry6920 6 лет назад

    Appreciate the Medea love

  • @geraldvaldez9615
    @geraldvaldez9615 3 года назад +2

    What sucks is that even if they somehow avoided getting killed during the grail war, once it ends, she would vanish since her master has no way of supporting her existence

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  3 года назад

      She'd have to go back to gathering energy from innocent people.

  • @lanzhydesr.8550
    @lanzhydesr.8550 7 лет назад

    I like your analysis for Medea. Really well thought out, and easy to understand. But just a question, do you also do non-anime requests on your Patreon?

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  6 лет назад

      It'd be preferred if it were anime/game related in some way.

  • @zekedone1845
    @zekedone1845 3 года назад +2

    Random fun fact if you feel sad the actual story is actually a happy ending for Medea because she was in favor of the gods till the very end where Jason was not

  • @TheRegulus01
    @TheRegulus01 4 года назад

    Medea, Atalanta, Medusa...All woman with such tragic stories as fitting for these old legends, and my favorite Servants to this date with Atalanta being my all time favorite. While I do not play fate grand order as someone who dislikes turn based games and Gacha, those three I would attempt to get however possible. Maybe I am lucky and when a new Fate/Extella drops, Medea and Atalanta make their way there as well.
    When came to Casters, that class never really clicked for me aside from Medea whlie with the other classes I could easily make a top three with the likes of Emiya as an Archer and Iskandar and Achilles as Rider. Gilles and Shakespear while interesting, made me not really interested in the class at all and I knew Medea only from the Deen adaption of the Saber Route I watched when I was first introduced in the franchise and she stood as my favorite Caster up until this day. That brief spark of happiness she had was beautiful before the end came through Gilgamesh.
    At least Medea gets a happy end in Carnival Phantasm and goes to Hawaii! I wonder what many people did with their Jason's in fate grand order...

  • @johngreatfox1382
    @johngreatfox1382 6 лет назад +2

    True Love!!!

  • @Nikakofn
    @Nikakofn 3 года назад

    Damn never excpected my country's legend animated into anime

  • @noahweathers4408
    @noahweathers4408 4 года назад +1

    Medea may not be my favorite Caster, but she is in the top three. I hope we get pseudo-servant Kuzuki soon so she can be with her love once more.

  • @lackusshock
    @lackusshock 4 года назад +2

    You know, I just got to thinking. Were Shirou to be in the same position as Kuzuki, he probably would've done the exact same thing and got Caster as his Servant...

  • @LilKatina
    @LilKatina 3 года назад

    I feel so sorry for Medea...She had to endure so much.😞And all because of her own rotten luck.😢

  • @Kuudere-Kun
    @Kuudere-Kun 6 лет назад +2

    I found your pronunciation of Hacate hilarious.
    So this is based on the Fate Route like the Saber video?

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  6 лет назад

      Yes, this is the side of the Fate route we don't hear about until Hollow Ataraxia.
      As for Hacate, I based my pronunciation off of how Ann says it in Persona 5. Whoops.

  • @damienstorm7263
    @damienstorm7263 3 года назад +1

    *blink* the actual story is much more different but in nasuverse she is really more innocent

  • @sauravsaha7465
    @sauravsaha7465 5 лет назад +1

    Just want to add that in F/HA she kind of gets to stay in the new merged reality with Soichirou. At least until he eventually dies, at that point she will probably fade away.

  • @tortatorta2974
    @tortatorta2974 4 года назад +5

    Medea & Medusa waifus for laifus

  • @ousamadearudesuwa
    @ousamadearudesuwa 6 лет назад +1

    Well to be fair Medea found her love and lost him tragically during the fifth holy grail war.

  • @RedXlV
    @RedXlV 4 года назад

    This video gave Medea more love than FGO has so far. Seriously, regular non-Lily version isn't even in any CE art yet.

  • @brazguard3akabg357
    @brazguard3akabg357 6 лет назад +3

    Someone give Medea a hug. ;-;

  • @bobbyadityaekapratama7743
    @bobbyadityaekapratama7743 6 лет назад

    if only she was spared the tragedy, then she will be known as the greatest healer of greece

  • @TWINsweetdragon
    @TWINsweetdragon 6 лет назад +2

    Finally best girl

  • @tau-5samsara990
    @tau-5samsara990 4 года назад

    Imma need a Fanfic about Shirou being transported to past where he saves Medea or Medusa or something like that

  • @ren_suzugamori1427
    @ren_suzugamori1427 3 года назад

    Medea would probably make a good mother figure to her Lily. She probably wouldn't want her Lily to witness anymore pain.

  • @tomoegozen7601
    @tomoegozen7601 4 года назад

    Ok so I love Medea but I never got around to her lore until now... man her lore makes me sad poor girl she just wanted to loved

  • @kevinh4910
    @kevinh4910 5 лет назад +7

    The true Waifu of the fate verse

  • @Zerobasssoul
    @Zerobasssoul 6 лет назад +2

    I didn't even know her story was a Greece one HOW I AVOID IT SO LONG

  • @gottesurteil3201
    @gottesurteil3201 4 года назад

    I would love to see an rider version of Medea on her dragon chariot.

  • @qasimgaming4531
    @qasimgaming4531 4 года назад

    "so this is my life? The life of a witch? The Witch of Betrayal. How fitting. I'm sorry, love." Medea in her almost final moments.

  • @Viceprezlava
    @Viceprezlava 6 лет назад +3

    Underrated waifu material

  • @jfarmerswatermelon6061
    @jfarmerswatermelon6061 3 года назад

    Colchis is my countrys polity i'm happy that they used Medea in Fate

  • @observer.b_e_l_l_i_s
    @observer.b_e_l_l_i_s 4 года назад

    So tragic.

  • @freakyfridaysss2950
    @freakyfridaysss2950 2 года назад +1

    We need a 5* Medea servant in FGO. Summer Medea and her storyline should be that she breaks Aphrodite's curse before they leave her kingdom. She continues her studies of magic with Hecate and becomes a disciple of Hecate. The undertaking of being a disciple gives her immunity to all magic, curses, witchcraft, and sorcery.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  2 года назад +1

      That would need to be a lostbelt version or something. Most summer servants just modify their existing versions so they don't have a different history.

  • @user-nu7ro7lm8r
    @user-nu7ro7lm8r 5 лет назад

    Not a word about her life in Athens, about her marrige with Aegus, about their son - Medus, about her history with Theseus? Man, you did cut good part of her lore

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  5 лет назад

      Владимир Яковлев About that. This lore is based off her testimony in Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, which never mentioned those things.

  • @revaryk6868
    @revaryk6868 6 лет назад +2

    (Sniffle)
    Poor Medea...

  • @pilotmanpaul
    @pilotmanpaul 5 лет назад +2

    She (Her Adult self) did help me in defeating Goetia so I shall give this video a like on behalf of her and burn Jason if I ever summon him.

  • @MaxHDAvenger
    @MaxHDAvenger 6 лет назад

    Wow now thats pretty harsh for Medea. Guess this applies to her Lily self as well.

  • @noahweathers4408
    @noahweathers4408 3 года назад +4

    I have said it before, I’ll say it again: I am saddened by how Medea was used and tossed aside multiple times. Many have made note of the cruelty of the gods in Greek mythology. They neglect to mention the callousness of man. I admire Kuzuki’s willingness to help Medea, and I sincerely hope they are happy and know love in stories like Hollow Ataraxia and Carnival Phantasm. I thank you for the video.

  • @fuego786
    @fuego786 4 года назад

    ok, i am going to max lvl her right now

  • @Alpha.Phenix
    @Alpha.Phenix 4 года назад

    Damn, after this, everything that happened with her first master in Stay Night feels even worse.

  • @bwabadoe
    @bwabadoe 7 лет назад

    I really enjoy these video's a ton, but do the cards have to be spinning at that speed? Maybe I'm just over sensitive to it, but it's kinda headachey.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  7 лет назад +1

      I can totally slow them down for future uploads. Heracles will be like this but I'll slow them down for newer renders.

    • @bwabadoe
      @bwabadoe 6 лет назад

      You're the best!

  • @kaisuzugamori4173
    @kaisuzugamori4173 4 года назад +1

    If I ever summon Jason when he comes to FGO I will feed him to Medea or Medea Lily

  • @fatpurp4041
    @fatpurp4041 3 года назад +1

    I was playing fgo and when I saw Medea lily I knew I was missing something