Herbert Mullin: The Serial Killed Once Voted “Most Likely To Succeed” | Bork To Kill? | Real Crime
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- Voted 'most likely to succeed' at school, Herbert Mullin was later convicted of the murders of thirteen people in 1973.
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Soooooo many serial killers in California between the 70's and 90's. Just mind blowing.
As the 424K views of this video demonstrates, we are culturally very aware of what goes into investigating murders. 2 in 5 murders today go unsolved. In 1965, it was 1 in 10. What that means is there's a lot going on that we just don't know about, and it's very likely that presently there are dozens of if not hundreds (some say as many as several thousand) active serial killers operating under the radar.
@@barryjive1104 I get it, but ALOT of the most notorious and very well known serial killers come straight out of California. I'm very aware that there are thousands, probably more and also probably more now than then, serial killers.
Boss As Fuck cia experiments
Not hard to understand the craziness in California. It is a drug infested leftist cesspool.
Wonder what is the cause for the sudden surge of serial killings since 70's started? I know there have been some before but with the start of the 70's it just blew up.
This kind of person should never be given parole...plain and simple.
So well said 😁😁😁
Be nice!!!
He won’t be
Yes fr fr
@@dennisrader5841 what??? No that
My grandmother was Schizophrenic.
The second they started describing him i recognized the symptoms immediately.
And this behavior began in his late teens, exactly the time when it typically develops.
Not everyone with paranoid Schizophrenia is a killer. My mother believes that her mother would have killed someone had she not been put into a hospital when she was.
My grandmother was put into a state hospital when my mother was around the age of 10, when her husband felt he could no longer care for her and all 4 children. She spent the rest of her life in institutions where she couldn't hurt anyone.
I'm sorry that he was not diagnosed before these tragedies happened.
He's just a narcisstic asshole, narcissism is the seed for schizophrenia
@@curiousgeorge6921you obviously do not know anything about schizophrenia 🙄 most people with schizophrenia only wan't to hurt themselves, the suicide rate among schizophrenics is staggering. They are not narcistics, quite the opposite! Average schizophrenic has a VERY low self esteem. Most voices they hear are very negative, calling them names and laughing at them.
Schizophrenia is an extreme amalgamation of the cluster A personality disorders, which causes the person to lose contact with reality, have delusions and hallucinations, disorganised thinking and behavior and negative symptoms. Schizophrenia has nothing to do with narcissism
Narcissism is nothing to do at all with schizophrenia, my brother is schizophrenic and my grandma also and both the loveliest people yad be meet. Don't know if ya getting confused with a sociopath or something else
I don't have schizophrenia but I have a complex personality disorder with mostly cluster A disorders (paranoid and schizotypal) with a cluster b (borderline) and 1 cluster c (avoident) and other mental health disorders, so I am aware of the construct of schizophrenia
As someone who suffers from psychosis (along with other things), I promise most of us are not like this. It's extremely painful to come to terms with, but I'd never kill
@@whitecloudmountainminnowpr6353 no I wouldn't
@@whitecloudmountainminnowpr6353 i will because it's true lol. I'd never kill
@@whitecloudmountainminnowpr6353 ok, good for you
alexs aquariums for real bud? Why would you talk to someone like that? There is something wrong with you.
@@whitecloudmountainminnowpr6353 you're a phuckin idiot
He's up for parole in 2021 and claims that he has sponsors? No matter what is being said about him, this man will always be very dangerous.
Hopefully, he will be denied parole.
No way. Free next year? He's a very dangerous man
He will never be paroled. Not a chance
Why would any system let out someone whom has taken 13 people, they should never get out, ever.
@@rocioaguilera3613 UP for parole
Just when I think I've heard about all the most prolific serial murderers out there, another one pops up.
They copy and try to out do the last one!
@Marjorie TillmanThis is terrifyingly true.
At it the truth these serial killers are everywhere.
He had a very sick mind
Never heard of him too.
Yeah me too bro, was thinking the same thing,lol
I went to SLVHS when Herb Mullin was a senior. My late older brother graduated with him and was good buds with victim Jim Gianera, (who was considered cute by all the girls, but was also seen as a “dangerous boy.) Herb was popular and voted “Most Likely to Succeed” because he had all the qualities other kids believe meet the criteria. Herb was not manifesting any of his mental health issues in his high school years. Herb was also tight with another boy on the football team named Dean Richards (maybe Richardson; it’s been a long, long time), and at the end of summer the year of their graduation, Dean, along with another boy who was driving, and Dean’s younger sister and her best friend, were in a horrific car accident. Dean’s sister was the only survivor. It was speculated at the time that the sudden death of his good friend Dean was something that triggered Herb’s mental illness issues. And, of course, someone with Herb’s predisposition for severe mental health illness should never be using drugs like LSD or pot. This was a tragedy all the way around. Herb should never be released from prison; he will always be delusional and a danger to society.
About 1994 I was doing some intern work at the VA. I was working on my Masters in Psych Mental Health Nursing. I will never forget. I was able to attend a giant therapy group that consisted of black male veterans-about 50. I was able to read many of their medical records. Many had been in Vietnam and turned to drugs in order to cope. The next diagnosis was: schizophrenia.
My grandmother Michelle mconville went to school there aswell if you know her please message me
Marijuana is recognized as a danger to adolescent mental health, along with other drugs too of course. Worth reading about and passing on to others.
Ever noticed that paranoids never hear a voice commanding them to help people?
That's cuz it's satan
@@singingplaylist7779 No?
Excellent point. Why is that? It's too weird not to notice. The Catholics just call it demonic possession, but they are mighty superstitious.
You're only hearing about them when they do something violent, you're not actually studying them.
My grandmother heard voices. She never hurt anyone, and she said the voices told her she should get up in the middle of the night to make cookies or to bleach the colored laundry for safety. But that's not going to make the news, "Woman wakes teenager at 4am to have fresh baked cookies after ruining load of laundry" isn't exactly a headline grabber.
@@plasticallyperfect But why did it have to be at 4 a.m.? Couldn't the voice wait until at least 7 a.m. to tell her to make cookies?
I have never heard of this guy before.
Chicken Nugget me either? But I’m sure there are many many more we never heard of. I hope not. But I started watching this stuff and haven’t heard of a lot of them
It's so many the media hold those back and make like every other people are doing all the killing!!
@les antoine too many
@@liveyourbestsoftlife5705 Didn't you see Walter Freaking Cronkite announcing his arrest ?
@les antoine is there ??? They won't tell us that because then it would be too obvious that police are VERY UNPRODUCTIVE institution that has way too much authority and little benefits for community.
It’s often the quiet, pretty places that are the most sinister behind the facade.
Yeah i was thinking the same thing. I also noticed they are quite secluded places as well. Btk lived in the mountains with he's grandmother when he killed her, beautiful but very secluded.
Woooooooooah, that's deep mannnnnnn....
Only if someone brings it there.
Sherlock Homes said the same thing
(Watson) "Good heavens!" "Who would associate crime with these dear old homesteads?"
(Holmes) "They always fill me with a certain horror. It is my belief, Watson, founded upon my experience, that the lowest and vilest alleys in London do not present a more dreadful record of sin than does the smiling and beautiful countryside."
(Watson) "You horrify me!"
(Holmes) "But the reason is very obvious. The pressure of public opinion can do in the town what the law cannot accomplish. There is no lane so vile that the scream of a tortured child, or the thud of a drunkard's blow, does not beget sympathy and indignation among the neighbours, and then the whole machinery of justice is ever so close that a word of complaint can set it going, and there is but a step between the crime and the dock. But look at these lonely houses, each in its own fields, filled for the most part with poor ignorant folk who know little of the law. Think of the deeds of hellish cruelty, the hidden wickedness which may go on, year in, year out, in such places, and none the wiser."
Sherlock Holmes in "The Copper Beeches" 1892
The film Hot Fuzz comes to mind lol.
Good news: as of March 2021, his parole was denied. He was still blaming everyone else, especially his family members and upbringing, for why he murdered people. Next review will be in 2028. Glad to see good sense out of the CA court system. 😉
Good news! He’s dead
He’s dead.
@@JDGarza824 Wow, I hadn’t seen the news. Thanks. I wonder if Ed Kemper is sad that Mullin has passed.
Yes that was a great decision, because a person like him would never be able to stop people like him will ponder his brain to never get caught again so he would be more sinister, so yeah the parole board made a heavy weight move on their part, but what's sad is the system has failed so many times since then these kind of people kill and brutality murder innocent people and the only time they are sorry is when they are caught, and some could never seek repentance because of satisfying a rude, evil, diabolical, sick, sadistic, twisted, desire and hunger to feel and satisfaction of control that stain his heart along with the blood on his hands...
@@omenskilz25 True.
At least he is dead now.
Parole board can’t mess up now at least.
My grandfather, father and I all went to the same high school as him. My grandfather was even in his graduating class and remembers him fondly (maybe not as much now due to dementia). Growing up in Felton, I never heard of Herbert’s story. It wasn’t until I was in my 20s that I finally heard the story and asked my grandfather about him. Very sad story...
My grandma went there please contact me I want to know your story
@Death at Intervals all three of them attended the same school obviously not at the same time. However, his grandfather actually attended the same school at the same time as the killer. Sheesh
@@SunTzuMedia 😂😂
This was a fascinating psychological study with a fitting ending. Indeed, if Mullins was mentally ill then (when he killed 13 people), why would anyone think that he would be mentally healthy (and worthy of release from prison) now?
I mean that’s a good question
@@naakor5819 I Agree !
I was thinking the same thing. He can never be trusted to be unsupervised 100% of the time, and sadly prison or perhaps a psychiatric hospital, are the only way to insure that he doesn’t do this again.
Yeah but he should have been sentenced or paroled after the fact to a mental facility. Mullin was a lunatic. He’s not like a typical serial killer who is totally sane.
Never. Never never D
Well, California didn’t fall into the sea, so there’s that . . .
Give it time! lol
We can only hope God punishes the wicked and evil West Coast in due time
Cal 420 lol evil west coast. It’s ironic because it’s florida, the conservative state which is sinking into the sea ;)
But they had a major earthquake in 89
We Californians know that the rest of the country will fall into the sea, and we will survive
Voted most likely to succeed but they didn't specify what he'd succeed in doing.
Indeed
He would have sacrificed everyone in california to save california.
Dear 404: There were no serial killers as we know them before 1870, yet no one asks why they never existed before then. Moreover, True Crime stories and even the Legal System always look at serial killing being solely about the "evil individual". If serial killers started to appear at a certain time in history, then it's obvious to me that something happened in society then that somewhat caused serial killings to start. In short, a SICK, SICK Society is destined to generate its share of SICK, SICK People. ,,, jkulik919@gmail.com
@@JosephKulik2016 - There were likely plenty of serial killers before then, but they lacked the technology to connect the victims or find the killer.
@@wickednwyld there were serial killers back then, it was called lynching and massacring people because of their race but wasn't labelled as serial killers.
@@lexaneli HA! The accuracy of your comment..
I would kill all of em
He should never get out of being institutionalized.
Taylor Fausett , he won’t
He should never be around long enough to be institutionalized.
@@texasray5237 who are you to judge?
He died some time back. I don't guess he will...
@@pagalmasala He didn't die.
In the 70's I was a teenager living in the Santa Cruz Mts. I was from a hippie family with no tv. And it was common to hitch hike. I didn't find out till years later that we had THREE serial killers working the Mts then! I guess it's all the luck of the draw...
Lori Tracy 😳
God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
@@oliviagrace6914 - Gawd save me from your followers...
I feel the same way about hitchhiking as a teen in the 70s in the Texas Killing Fields around the Gulf coast. Actually anyone that hitchhiked then was lucky. I think about those that didn't make it home all the time.
This is the first documentary ive ever seen where the forensic psychologist guy isn’t saying “sexual” in every sentence 😂😂
Yeah hahaha it's a different case.
"Seksual" 😂
Lmao so true
I worked with adults with paranoid schizophrenia for a decade and can affirm that in all that time, I experienced only 2 times when I could have been hurt. Vast majority of people with this awful condition are actually quite anxious and scared. They often have high intelligence and, in my experience, a really great sense of humour which is dark and irreverent. The majority of the people i worked with in fact didn't even like going out. No doubt there are violent schizophrenics, but there are violent people who don't have schizophrenia. Or any identifiable mental health issues. I'm glad I had the chance to work with people who have this condition, it showed me just how skewed the reporting is in the media and how this mental health issue has become so entwined with the idea of violence. That is simply not the case in reality
Thank you Wendy.
YOU GO WENDY!
Yep! Every bit of this
He overlapped with Edmund Kemper, also in Santa Cruz.
The Blue Hotel I noticed that too!
For some reason, the story of Ed Kemper struck deeply in me. Can't quite put my finger on it, could be because I have a handful of sisters and nieces. Even though I live in a teensy tiny town of a populace less than a thousand and we all know each other I still relate because I would defend my family with the fury of Bruce Lee if it came to it.
Santa Cruz is my hometown. There were three serial killers active in the mountains at that time. My dad was a high school teacher and since his last name is Mullins he would always be asked if he was related to Herbert Mullin.
The Blue Hotel Kemper became good friends with him when in jail. If you listen to Kemper’s interview on here, he’s got a couple of stories about being jailed with ‘ Little Herbie’!
What's in the water over there? 😂
"If you looked at him and spoke to him, you'd think he was a law abiding citizen." When I saw his picture I thought his eyes looked dead and spaced out.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Like Biden ?
His eyes are soulless, like the real him has been taken over
His eyes screamed murderer!
Damn one thing for sure these documentaries never gets bored when watched!
God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
@@oliviagrace6914 jesus fucking christ :) freedom of speech i will curse and use ur lords name however i please. god is dead. hail satan.
Det. Terry Medina had seen so many gruesome murders scenes thru his life as detective. And had encounters with a few serial killers. This man... has seen a lot and I don't know how he can he cope with so many scenes of violence and horror. I would have nightmares. Respect to his badge.
I had a friend I grew close with, we met at 18. We are 20 now. He used to be so happy and carefree, an absolute treat to be around. He is paranoid as hell in a way that scares me. Constantly thinking people are talking about him subconsciously, sending messages through simple facial expressions or random sounds, and when we would try to set up video games or tv and would see a “no signal” sign, he would believe it meant he had no connection to reality or the people around him. He became almost catonic and other times completely spuratic. I had to stop seeing him because he is twice my height and weight and could very easily hurt me. It’s so sad.
Yeah, that's scary... You made the right choice. Hope you're well out there...
You made the smart choice. I hope he got the help he needed.
Meth is a hell of a drug!
Emily your last name is so cool, it reminds me of penis. Wow, that is so awesome. I love it!
The illness manifests itself usually in late teens, early twenties. Scary.. Stay safe.
He is crazy as hell, it's a one thing to kill, but to kill an innocent person and cut her open and get her intestines out??? Sick...
Schizophrenia is not a “learning disorder”.
Highly intelligent people may be afflicted with schizophrenia. It is an illness that does not impact the individual’s ability to learn. There are many articles you may want to read regarding some of the signs and symptoms of schizophrenia.
Perhaps just Google schizophrenia - positive and negative signs. It is a vast topic. I agree with what you said about learning disabilities. 🇨🇦
How different all the murders are I think shows how much his mind fell into chaos. Despite this, he should have sought help, not killed people. We as a society need to actively encourage people to seek help.
Omfg, I can't believe he's allowed to ask for parole.
Sickos got rights
Asking is one thing, saying “okey dokey” is another...
Charles Manson was allowed to ask for parole doesn't mean he ever got out
He’ll never get it. It’s a huge waste of time and money to even let him ask.
@@teresas8173 yeah, that's part of what I see as the problem
So much sympathy for Mullin and so little for his victims or their families ...
You can have both . This guy is flat out of his guord
Who showed no sympathy for the victims?
Yea where is the stories of the people he killed not his ugly ass
@@pinkpugginz nobody wants to hear bout the victims because they didnt do anything of note.. like kill somebody.
Yes exactly hun .. They always do that i mean they are treating Lori Vallow like that now and shes in jail and up in court for not presenting her kids who are missing in court and undermining an official court order. Why do they wrap them in cotton wool .. i say set the victims families on to them which would save them filling up all the prisons lol. The victims always get less attention and sympathy its always poor serial killer ..
The fact the he says his family and whoever else drive him to murder says he knew it was wrong.
Or he knows it now.
But then he would have to take responsibility for his own actions and we all know he's the real victim in this whole killing spree lol
I was voted most likely to succeed, was valedictorian and played pro baseball....I ended up an OxyContin addict for 3 years and have watched several people die...but now am married with 3 kids and 2 businesses....rehabilitation can happen but this dude is bat shit crazy
oxycontin is demon meds, told my doctors this. don't ever give me that..........omg, my stomach would swell up then vomited ........the next day I did not want to take them but your system wants it and this is only after taking 1 dose and was freaked out about that.......there are many pain meds out there that after 1 pill your body, system wants more not you ......weed dpes not do that
@Juicelad People who do drug their sperm and ovule are affected and can procrate children with mental or physical defect. I read it in Biology class.
Do they still prescibe this med? I've seen many documentaries where people say how highly addictive and dangerous they all. Just shows how the big pharma is all about money and not helping people. They happily get people hooked on a med knowing the consequences. Its inexcusable really. 😔
@@misty5979 God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
My grandparents lived in Ben Lomond during this guy and Ed Kemper. I remember listening to them talking about these killers. Scared the crap out of me, which is what they wanted to do so my brothers and I would not stray too far from their house while visiting. We were allowed to hike thru the forests but not go near the road.
And that’s good advice since murderers are not allowed to hike in the forest!
@@joemunny2566 LMAO!!!
@@joemunny2566 lol
@@joemunny2566 😂😂👌🏾
@@joemunny2566 took the words out my mouth
I was born and raised in Santa Cruz, CA and a preteen when this was going on. There was Ed Kemper and John Frazier in the 70’s. For such a beautiful laid back town there were so many serial killers. We were not allowed to cross the street by ourselves.
My first husband had schizoeffective disorder and the most misunderstood aspect is that the voices they are hearing are their own thoughts. The part of our brain that filters the insistent chatter of our thoughts and is able to tell the difference between our inner voice and the voices coming to us from people in the environment around is dysfunctional.
So, when the detective said that Mullin got the address to his High School friend from the young mother...and after he killed his friend and his wife, he returned to the young mother's cabin "to get rid of witnesses"...even if the detective wasn't inferring that Mullin was "saine enough" to try and cover up his tracks...this is often the line of thinking in dismissing insanity and diminished responsibility defenses. My point here is, for people experiencing psychosis...the very small percentage that do end up becoming a danger to others, it is very possible that attempting to cover up the evidence of what they have done isn't a function of knowing right from wrong, but instead they could very well be following the guidance of a voice that they don't know is their own thoughts.
People with a schizoid disorder would also have a very difficult time explaining why they thought to get rid of any evidence and would be more inclined to simply state, "I knew I needed to get rid of the evidence," failing to articulate how they knew they needed to.
I've watched hundreds of police interrogations and very rarely does someone who committed a violent crime due to psychosis say, "the voices told me too." They mostly speak in terms of knowing someone was out to get them or like Mullin, believing he was on a mission from God.
Anyway, I felt it was important for people to understand how a person who becomes violent after experiencing a psychotic episode can also make efforts to cover their tracks/get rid of evidence...not because they are completely aware that what they did is wrong, but because they were guided to do so...in the same way an obedient child told to clean his room doesn't sit back to contemplate the virtue of cleanliness and being responsible vs the consequences of not cleaning their room...they simply do as they are instructed, knowing it's what's expected of them.
This does not excuse Mullin's crimes, justice requires accountability. I'm simply sharing some insight and maybe spark some contemplation from another perspective.
Thank you so much for taking the time explaining this. I am very interested in these kinds of topics myself. The human mind can be broken in the weirdest ways, people in general have no idea about.
I’m doomed. Voted most likely to be a “backstreet boy”
Lol
You look here now......I never wanna hear you say
@@Sharrieff93 I want it dead way.
@@Sharrieff93 😆
Did we mention he was voted most likely to succeed???
Well, they didn't say what he would succeed in.
Whoever said that should forecast the weather,
At killing...
@@joseph-mariopelerin7028 my god yes great comment. That's the only job you can be consistantly wrong and still keep your job it drives me nuts!
Peggy Greeby lol omg I was gonna post the same thing
Weed made you kill children? No sir. Clearly just a very ill man that lost touch with reality years ago. I pray for these people who's families are no doubt STILL in pain from this.
Weed is not good for people woth mental problems
In my day, we entertained ourselves by running away from Polio.
ed kemper turned him into his pet. kemper even talks about it in an interview.
Funny but kinda true LOL.
Yes he did. He got him to act right in custody.
Yep with peanuts. Imagine if one of the victims have drop a bag of peanuts and not being murdered
Anyone who uses his mother's skull as a dart board pretty much can do what they want.
Mm been
He proved himself still crazy as hell when he mentioned that he was hoping for a pardon or to be exonerated for his crimes.
I used weed, cocaine, crack, lSD, meth, methadone, herion, oxy, percs, xans, serquil, and acid. Through out 30 years and I have never wanted to kill anybody. That's in him. I get so tired of doctors guessing what's wrong with these but cases.
Exactly!!! People do all kinds of drugs, have mental illness and have terrible childhoods but they never murder anyone.
I've done everything except iv drugs and also never felt an overwhelming desire to kill
Drugs affect people differently, one man's "euphoria" could very easily be another's door into paranoia. The same could be said for alcohol, you hear about this all the time, a bad drunk. It's not hard to do irrational things when you're out of your mind on drugs or alcohol. You know those times when you're having fun indulging yourself having to ask your buddies what the hell happened last night? There are many cases of this exact scenario only to find out they murdered somebody.
Funny how they ALWAYS want to find out "what cause him to kill" when this kind of behavior is consistent with certain folks...
Yeah and with other certain monkeys, there's always a voice commanding them to steal and trash stores
@@googlefuckedupyoutube look at your mama and you will see monkey..same lip , same hair, same toe, same teeth..same genital..now back to regular programming..the same kind of people commit these crime REGULARLY..
“Most likely to succeed”.
Yes, but at what?
Now we know.
That dude was definitely insane.
@@fidneusdiller8123 lol 😆
Wasnt insane just religious
NO EVIL AND POSSESSED
There are alot of people insane but they never act out on there actions
@@timmusk9939 The reason he did it was because his psychotic delusions compelled him to. Other people with psychotic illnesses may have other delusions.
this makes me feel better for not getting elected for any awards in high school
Lol right tho
The drastic change in his appearance shows some sort of mental break I'm sure he had sadistic fantasies in his teenage years most likely sooner but it was easier to control and back then mental illness was not discussed because of foolish pride he simply turned his fantasies into reality
🤣🤣🤣🤣 good 1
@@DorkVader26 Sounds like he was pretty successful at it! Until the last one anyway!
Seriously!! You never know??
Ed Kemper, another serial killer operating in the same area at the same time, was housed in the same wing as Herbert in prison. Herbert had some very annoying habits (I think singing off key, or ranting) that Ed HATED so he trained Herbert like a dog, by throwing peanuts and other treats at him, when Herbert did something that wasn't annoying. Ed hated that people grouped him and Herbert together and really did not like the man in general. It's funny because you'd think they'd get along, given they have similar "interests" but I guess it just goes to show everyone is different
Sadistic murderers are generally loners by choice. Many times when there’s a pair , one is murdered by the other one. California has tens of thousands of dangerous felons roaming freely throughout the state. Leniency towards violent felons in or courts has placed civil society in extreme danger. Progressive policies making felonies into misdemeanors is driving the violent crime wave across America. Those that commit these acts are given excuses for their actions.
Sinners don't like sinners. One of the reasons why he ll is going to be so rough.
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here’s the source of your spark notes comment version. Kind of crazy you typed all that out bud
@@RJFPmea lot of exceptions. Ted Bundy, BTK, are a couple.
This helps me a lot i like documentaries like this. I am studying law and psychology in uni but I want to take psychology further and study forensic psychology :)
Perhaps he should get the mercy he gave his victims .. none
Spot on Debra.
Exactly
That's what it's like when you're the family of the victim of a capital crime too.
"Life in prison without the possibility for parole" is NOT justice for the murder victims, nor their families.
So you want to kill them just like he killed others lol you're just as bad as he is
@@jojobean9260 keep telling yourself that
@@jojobean9260 You have no sense of justice. You probably favor abortion on demand.
What is it like? Your statement just seems to have been thrown in at random.
Not every family of the victim of a capital crime is gagging for the perpetrator to be put to death by the state in an eye for an eye type deal.
Could have been something as simple as head trauma while playing football people who have experienced concussions have gone on to do very strange things in their life
Could be that and the fact that he took marijuana and lsd which is known to make people anxious and paranoid.
Chris Benoit is a good example of head trauma and violence.
@@harryocallaghan8082 not true. it does not cause psychosis. it MIGHT exacerbate already present psychosis
@@mistressmozart Well I smoked it for years and it gave me anxiety which I never had before that. I know lots of people and it does the same thing to them. So yes it does.
@@harryocallaghan8082 marijuana will exacerbate any tendency a user has had towards anxiety. The anxiety is there before hand; it just isn’t recognized until something triggers it. Yes, I know from personal experience: had my first full-blown panic attack (which I remember, and I’m now 72) before I was 3 yrs. old. I use cannabis for physical pain, but avoid any high THC; not looking to get stoned, become anxious or paranoid, just want something other than opioids to ease my pain.
I have severe ADHD and mild Bipolar II. I can say from personal experience that hypergraphia is something I may do when I'm under extreme stress or emotional turmoil. If I look back at those writings with a more stable mindset, I can feel the emotional distress by just looking at the haphazard and sometimes incoherent scrawlings on the pages. I even did this once through typing. I'm extremely adept in writing and accompanying subjects, so to look back at that document where it started off as a sane rant quickly devolved into a mess of caps, no punctuation or structure, and suppressed thoughts and emotions being vomited out, it looked like absolutely nothing I would write. But at the time of doing so I was recovering from a mentally abusive relationship, and that document remains as a small glimpse into a dark part of my mind when mistreatment of my conditions and stressful trauma have their grip. It's a scary and sort of distressing thing to see and even worse to feel.
Well, his high school classmates will never live THAT down.
He's quite the topic at HS reunions. "Remember Herb?"
More proof that kids aren't ready to vote yet.
If he stops believing his delusion he’s nothing more than a monster, he’s never going to stop believing it.
@@davewiegmann5812 Okay, Herbert.
His delusion is the most common one there is
@Bob 1 Its got to be a terribly lonely existence .
Look going to church every week, and saying prayers, and going to confessions DOES NOT make u good. U have to believe in it and know why u believe. Not just I go to church cause that's what people do and they are good. I hate statements like that. "Oh well I was a good Catholic cause I do this this and this." Going through motions doesn't make u good to start guy.
I'd also say that not going to church and not believing doesn't make you a bad person either.
@@tobysimard9638 Exactly. I like the spirit of modern mainstream christianity but sincerely believing that imaginative story and going to a church consistently isn't necessarily a good thing. As a person from non religious country, it's hard to understand why people in 2020 still think those nursery stories are absolutely true.
@@tamatama5181 Beats me why they think it's true. I believe most people have good intentions but suck at getting them across. Some people, however, don't have good intentions, and for whatever reason, commit vile acts upon their fellow humans.
Kyle Warren Yes, all he does is list Catholic traditions that he followed, not one word about God, Jesus Christ or Mary.
Dude, the guy is insane.
This sounds like he had a God Complex, super creepy.
They described him as great all-American kid, likely to succeed. Only true thing in that is "American"
God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
@@oliviagrace6914 absolutely zero proof of any god.
i just love how they reiterated how this guy was an all american, voted most likely to succeed, devout catholic every time they mentioned a murder he committed. Imagine if he was a black, latino or muslim man. The adjectives would be so different lol
100%true
No, the leftist media would leave out such definitives that conjures up negatives about ANY minority to protect the illusion that they all NEVER pull such evil deeds...only white republican men are fair game these days. Minority speaking here....
Bird house 100% true
nigga that's why they're saying that. to emphasize the fact that it doesn't matter if you're a black athiest, or a devout white catholic, murder is murder.
JF Jones, exactly, that word immediately voids any argument, in my opinion.
And he's actually looking for a "sponsor out there....to hopefully get him a pardon...or vindicated"...Lord, let's hope not!! Like his attorney says, he's batty as a bedbug!!!
Lol indeed "that ".
@@davidmcallister9263 "A real man would get help and realize his thoughts were not right"... Do you honestly believe that people with a mental illness such as diagnosed schizophrenia have the mental capacity to understand right from wrong? If so, you truly do not understand how debilitating mental illness can be. Do I think it excuses him of his actions? To a degree. Do I think he should ever get a pardon? No, never. He should spend his days in an institution, like he is. To someone suffering of an illness such as this, he honestly believes he was doing the right thing and doesn't have the capacity to know otherwise. That's the problem with these illnesses. Please do some research into complicated disorders like these before airing your opinion on them. My only hope is that you never have to endure the burden of having a friend or family member encounter one of these evil and debilitating disorders.
@@Ceocyn Seems you are inferring that the killer did suffer from a debilitating mental illness, schizophrenia in this case, and he did not have the mental capacity to understand right from wrong, a mental illness over which he had absolutely no control and which made him " believes he was doing the right thing and doesn't have the capacity to know otherwise " why then did it excuse him of his actions only " to a certain degree " ?
@@9064peterpan Because his illness makes him a danger to everyone, therefor I don't believe he should ever be set free. The part I disagree with is where excusing his actions entirely would allow him to be free, and due to the danger he poses, I don't think that should happen. My hope is one day we're able to understand these illnesses to the point we can diagnose and treat them long before they get to this point, and studying people like this in institutions will help us achieve that goal.
david wong Your ignorance on mental health is alarming, & yours & so many others in society’s attitudes towards mental health is precisely why those affected don’t get help if they’re able to.
I also suffer from a psychosis disorder, but I also strongly believe that reason ≠ excuse of action. If I ever do something that breaks the law, I don't want to be excused because of my mental instability, I want to take responsibility. Obviously there are more serious cases especially with delusions, but if you are to live in this world you have to adjust to it.
Mental illness is sad. Pray for all that are tortured by their own minds.🙏🙏
Does it really matter if they are innocent via the insanity plea!? Either way, insane or not, nobody of this caliber should ever be allowed to be free. Life in prison should be the end result period.
Looking up this series on Wikipedia, out of 54 episodes, three were based on killers in early 70s Santa Cruz, which had less than 35,000 locals at the time: Kemper, this guy, and John Linley Frazier. Heavy.
C B , Kemper has referred to this guy as “little Her by” and often made fun of him. He references it in one of his many interviews. California has had A LOT of serial killers. But that’s creepy that there were three in that one small area at the same time. I’ve never heard of the last one.
I first learnt about the dark side of Santa Cruz from the movie "Lost Boys" lol.
I read the producers were pressured into calling it Santa Carla by city officials because they were concerned it would negatively impact tourism and the place already had the highest number of violent crimes.
"Voted most likely to succeed at school" keeps being mentioned.
Surely that always says more about the voters than the voted individual?
Agreed. No need for your question mark I would say. You nailed it.
They never say what he or she is likely to succeed at. This guy got a measure of fame. For some warped individuals, that’s success.
@@felixelgato1594 ... lame.
nice twist
Sociopaths/psychopaths are very smart and would usually be grouped in the high achievement category as young adults.
I remember this case, living in South San Jose at the time, and in 8th grade. It was a few years before my friends and I “went over the hill!”
Very interesting reading the comments. One of the reasons I’ve always been interested in crime documentaries is to understand the psychology behind the perpetrator, that’s just something that’s always intrigued me. I don’t believe anyone is ‘born’ a murderer, can you imagine looking at those innocent newborn babies on a ward & going ‘Yep! S/he’s going to be a right serial killer when they grow up!’ - Er, no. The majority of serial killers are a direct product of their surroundings, sometimes upbringings. The whole ‘nature VS nurture’ debate, I suppose.
It’s also really eye opening (& alarming) how ignorant people still are to mental health in the 21st century. I thought we were making head way with the stigma surrounding mental health, but any time I think that, I only just need to read the RUclips comments to realise we’ve got a hell of a long way to go yet.
Right? It's like, I'm not saying the guy should be out in public, but he's clearly not well -- and then to turn around and put him in a prison with people who might only be guilty of something easily reformable or a dumb decision as a kid? Man, what?
Very Peculiar Hat Man Exactly! Nice to read a sensible comment, so thank you for responding. I sometimes think I’ve gone a bit bonkers with my beliefs about people like this. I don’t know why they think prison will work for individuals like this, he still believes his entire family / friends / neighbours were.. what was it? Conspiring against him? He needs to be in a psychiatric hospital.
I don’t think either of us are excusing his behaviour but blimey.. I feel like we’re the only logical folks 😬
Bob 1 Amen to that Bob. I hold my hands up & openly admit to having this preconceived notion of what people with schizophrenia were ‘like’ when I was younger, it wasn’t until I had my own mental health breakdown & stayed a few times in my local low secure psych ward for stabilisation on meds that I made friends with others, & we all spoke of our diagnosis’ quite openly. I met 2 *amazing* young men in there who had schizophrenia diagnosis’ & I distinctly remember thinking for a good few nights after meeting them (those bloody nights when we were told to sleep & never could!) how stupid I felt for having those preconceived notions, trying to understand my own psyche on where they came from, how guilty I felt.. it really did bother me, & it still does all these years later (11 years).
They were just like you, I & everyone else, & I did speak to them about it all. The beauty of psyche wards is everyone’s really open on them, we’re in the mindset that we have nothing to lose so we don’t give much of a shit about what we share, I’ve always said it’s like a different world in there. They aren’t well individuals when they’re off their medication or their meds don’t work, but they were right in saying no one is regardless of diagnosis. I never saw them as a danger, that wasn’t my pre conceived ideas of them, I just thought they’d be different.. very hard to explain. They were exactly how you described your father as being; fit, intelligent, healthy, they had amazing senses of humours.. their minds just didn’t work the way they wanted them to sometimes & it frustrated / upset them.
My ex sister in laws mother has the condition too & that’s something I grew up learning, she revealed it a lot later to us as she was ashamed which I felt was sad. Despite her & my brother splitting she still sends birthday cards, Christmas cards, & frequent letters of updates.
Anyway.. sorry, I’m rambling. My point being, my own struggles opened my eyes to a whole new world of suffering. The stigma associated with it, everything. Unless someone has had first hand experience with something like that they will just never understand no matter how hard you explain.
I’m sorry you had to go through all of that Bob.. I’m sorry your father got put away like a wild animal rather than being helped. In that way I’m somewhat thankful times have changed, even though we’ve still got a long way to go. And you’re very right in saying that many who struggle with schizophrenia / psychosis & other MH conditions end up being victims, even to the people that are meant to help them the most 😞
Take care of yourself Bob xx
Adam Lolno I disagree that people are born like it, that’s a sentiment I’ve never agreed with & likely never will. I haven’t come across any articles or documentaries yet over the years that have had any professionals say that these individuals are born to murder, rape etc. Although I’m happy to stand corrected IG & when I do come across anything.
By saying you’re a ‘product of your upbringing’ I always find it a bit frustrating when people throw the ‘but lots of people are born into poverty / abuse & don’t become .. or don’t do X,Y,Z’ - it’s the equivalent of saying everyone who breaks a leg, breaks it in the exact same place & heals in exactly the same time frame; one shoe doesn’t fit all. The mind even to this very day is being constantly examined & tested, it’s such a complex part of our bodies that even the most renowned scientists on this planet can’t fathom all of its capabilities. What may trigger one person, may never trigger another. It’s understood that the development of our brains during certain ages play a key role in these individuals becoming like they are; if they’re consistently abused, exposed to beastiality or incest, have head injuries (etc etc) during these times, it’s now shown it has a developmental affect.
I should add it doesn’t EXCUSE what they’ve done, that’s certainly not what I’m saying.. I’m more interested in the why’s, because although you’re right in saying occasionally some people do become serial rapists / killers for the fuck of it.. that’s not often the case when you dig deeper into their childhoods & upbringing.
Bob 1 Thank you Bob! I’ve never heard of her before & I’m always looking for new people to look up & research. Off to watch a documentary now. Any other recommendations?! I wouldn’t say no to! Anything to bide my time with in this lockdown! Take care ☺️ x
The amount of excuses they make for this guy is amazing. They just keep going out of their way to describe how great he was as a person while he was literally murdering people. Every time they talk about another victim they reiterate what a good person this murderer was. Disgusting.
I don't believe those are excuses! They are attempting to get into his mind to figure out how he works, so that they can see another like him coming! it's probably just telling you what his motivations for these evil acts were! It will never excuse him from his sick and depraved acts! They people talking about him most likely thought they knew him well! so when they say those things it is because this was the part of him they knew! These people are very good at hiding the monsters they really are! Which is why no one knows about them until it is too late and they have already killed!
@@taramahoney3368 I dont care why they're doing it. Calling someone a good person while talking about the people he literally murdered is disgusting. End of story. I don't care if they THOUGHT he was a good person before the murders. They now know he is a murderer. Its okay to say "we thought he was a good person" or "he seemed like a good person". But thats not what was said. They said repeatedly "He was a good person" when in fact he was a very awful person. Its NOT okay to reiterate over and over, while discussing these murders, that he was a good person. He wasn't. Good people don't murder.
@@liamlockheartart7560 this dude was a victim of CIA experiments
lol damn you only heard the bad parts
I don't think that was the intent. They were repeating what they found out about him. Making 2 major points. #1 Someone with such personal credentials is hard to pick up on the radar as a suspect. #2 Madmen don't always look and act like madmen in front of most they interact with. A warning if you will.
this is an extremelysad story. All those lives took, all those families he destroyed. So so sad. Thank God he's of out of society.
When I was a kid we had a serial killer bury bodies just a few houses away from mines. I remember the nieborhoid boys and I would ride our bikes to the back alley to look at the humps behind the house. We were kids ages 6-9. We had no idea the danger so close to us. But he would target woman who ran into his circle. That killers name was Morris Soloman.
schizophrenia can be onset in some people by wee, lsd, mind altering drugs. Im not saying get high get crazy but if that individual has that gene or whatever using drugs can be the tipping point. makes sense to me maybe he wasn't full blown wacky yet but by fucking with his brain chemistry that was enough to either speed up the process or add this element for the perfect storm per say.
I think that's a high possibility
You said High
yes and ive seen it happen to someone
CD Projekt DOWNGRADE@sony/ms/ubisoft.coN me too
By wee? How does one go through life avoiding wee ?
Why am I watching this and why can’t I stop!
Cuz you are hooked just like the rest of us.
Glad I decided to watch this, been Mullin over it for ages
Hummm ?
Is it just me or does anyone else realise that 70s & 80s were an era where America had a lot of serial killers...? Like seriously... was that a cursed era or what?
Drug epidemic, ultra conservative culture which hyper isolated some individuals, no intercommunication between police departments, no online communities to offer support/ a sense of community for the loners. That’s what happens.
LSD
Maybe more of the bodies were found.
@@gmchessplay9043 Vietnam/Korean wars
God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
What do you mean San Fran "was" a run down seedy place? Lol
Yeah me too, just hard to understand that. I mean it was the early 70's and people from all over the United States was flooding into San Francisco
Especially now during the pandemic. Needles, human feces, and tents in and around every bridge.
San Fran Sicko
God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)🤍
The misappropriation of religious concepts has a lot to answer for.
This is the most poignant and truthful statement I have encountered in a while.
In the texts of Religion 2+2 does equal 5. As he said himself, "Religion is not based in reality." It makes people do some crazy stuff. Jim Jones?
as does race
@Olwen Morgan - well; I didn't actually say that, but if you are God, stop pissing about on RUclips and do your job! 😉
@@brianh9529 amen
Every single serial killer case in the last 70 years starts the same, "We never saw anything like this, we had no idea what was going on".
Kemper was killing at the same time in the same area, and still they never saw anything like it
Kemper also killed his grandparents when he was 15. How he got out after only a few years, I'll never know. Those doctors were very naive to be fooled by a teenager. When the co-ed killings first started they should have been looking at him early on. How many homicidal maniacs could there be out there?
@@peggypeggy4137 Any kid who kills gets out by age 21, no matter how bad the crime IF they are charged as kids.
@@peggypeggy4137 - IIRC, Kemper is extremely intelligent. The doctors very likely underestimated him, due to his age at the time. Adults rarely want to admit that they are being expertly manipulated, let alone by a teenager.
@@wickednwyld That's true. I know that he was charged as a kid and therefore received a very short sentence for that reason. I was reading an article that said that Kemper was released at 21 despite the recommendations of the psychiatrists that he not be released. He also convinced the parole board to expunge his record, according to this article.
@@peggypeggy4137 Kemper had something like a 141 IQ and was a massive person. He was the perfect storm for someone who's both imposing and expertly manipulative.
Take into consideration that 9 year old girl on Dr Phil who snapped the necks of baby birds, hurt her siblings, and spoke of horrific acts the voices in her head kept telling her to do.
While I wasn't there and don't know him well enough to make a valid assessment, these awful things DO happen.
One of their BIG mistakes was talking to "Dr" Phil about it😮
12:55 Let me guess, the hobo was just another hobo and no need to really investigate his murder, therefore, 12 more people died because they didn't take the homeless man's murder seriously. Typical. 14:50 Did anyone else notice that these forensic psychichiatrists are sort of smiling while telling the story of such horrendous murder?
I wouldn't worry, most psy are born idiot... dada's money can brainwash them into something with a title... so if you interpret them out off their power suit, they only are child that are stuck having fantasy in their head... that's the smile you see on most scientist...
@@joseph-mariopelerin7028 You sound like the idiot to me.
@@joseph-mariopelerin7028 What are you talking about??
JS Phillips to you? Loll
SmittenKitten im saying psychiatrist and serial killers, same... just Different IQ
Smoking bud doesn’t make you want to kill people, it makes you hungry and a bit drowsy when wearing off.
Yet long-term it causes personality disorders
The fact that, as a paranoid schizophrenia, he could so calmly and rationally analyze himself and gave his own speculation about how he had ended up the person he was, was quite unbelievable.
His interview was still nutty and he was probably being medicated at that point.
He was completely delusional.
I see some pretty freaky hallucinations and sometimes, people turn into them. I'm lucky that I can logic my way into knowing what's real, but seriously people need to start getting psychological help wayyyy *before* bad things happen. Like, after id been paranoid for years and asked my parents for help multiple times, I almost hurt someone the first time i had visual hallucinations just because i had no idea what was happening and was terrified.
I really like all the stories coming out on real crime. They have really good topics and a way about describing everything thank you🖤🕷💯👍🏼🙉🙈🙊
God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
In school: most likely to succeed
In prison: most likely to suck seed
LOL dude goddamn
clever. comment accepted.
School boy toilet humor.
Toilet humour, I’m all for it
*nods and claps slowly
Well done, Sir. TY
I grew up 5 minutes from the Mystery Spot! Opened up this documentary not even realizing it was based on my county.
Same here what a coincedence.
His parole was denied in March 2021. Next parole date is in 2028 when he is 81yrs. He is still blaming his family and upbringing for these killings. As long as he is breathing he should stay in prison. This guy was a very clever psychopath at 25yrs old. He knew exactly what he was doing and his murders were so random so they could not be linked.
Glad he stopped blaming God.
I felt bad because I didn't get voted for any thing. I feel good now. Other class mates dont know jack
lol
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I don't get why insane people will always say that God told them to sacrifice people but never themselves 🤔
Same reason God is believed in in the first place. We can convince ourselves of anything.
Because it's not god taking to them, it's a delusional reality created in their own mind
To any one that thinks Herb Mullin or anyone like him should be released from prison, ask yourself this one question =
Would you want him living next to you or your daughter?
Yep they would have a change of mind them if they said well he's gonna look live beside you tho will that be Ok wonder what they would think
Sympathy yes, but locked up forever.
Eva Sartorius definitely locked up forever! He's a seriously crazy guy.
This is a great channel. Glad I found it. The amount of ads, though, makes listening as you work impossible.
If you go to the end of the video, play the few last seconds, then press play again, it will play without ads! You're welcome! 😉
@@IzzyOnTheMove ...I played the last few seconds then pressed the 'replay' icon. It played, but did not eliminate the ads. Doesn't work!
@@cindyp5703 it works for me....on mobile phone
@@carpediem4887 Oh, I was on a PC.
@@IzzyOnTheMove Thank you!!! 👊
27:55 You don't have to have paranoid schizophrenia to understand that rules should apply equally.
If a biopic was ever made about this guy, Jack Quaid would be perfect as Mullin.
Imagine Mullin thinking of seeking a 'Pardon' or being release on Parole . . . DON'T LET HIM OUT! (He died August 18, 2022 age 75 of natural causes.) Interesting he died on the 18th of the month . . .
I've never seen a case where so many excuses were made for the murderer. I saw another case about the LAPD officer on this channel that went on a rampage killing and no one tried to understand what caused his rampage.
Because he was BLACK#Christopher Dorner
I didn't get that from this doc. He seems to be the only one feeling sorry for himself.
@@denisegriffin4343 I agree.
Christopher Marlowe yeaah! Go back to all the different countries their DNA says they’re from, and us whites can go back to 19% Russia, 7% Germany, 34% Ireland-
@leah rose Yall do complain. It comes out in hatred toward others. Stop saying stupid stuff like that, citizenship is based primarily on where you are born. It is ignorant for racist people to tell us to go back to Africa when we were born right here. Stop thinking yall own everything. Read your bible, you'll see why you have no true claim to even an ounce of soil. The most you will have true stake in is when you return to the ground
Ed Kemper will tell you, with his little," behavior modification", experiment.
Definitely learning more about my hometown
One has to be very cautious in the consideration of Mullin's schizophrenia (SZ) to avoid the equation SZ = homicidal behavior; it most certainly does not. Each case of SZ is very specific. There is no template to offer a series of causal relationships in behaviors of a person afflicted with SZ. It's a hazard to embrace this unfortunate equation, because it can often lead to demonizing the afflicted. I come from a family where SZ was frequent. None of them, although occasionally committed, were ever violent.
Never heard of this 1... 👍🏻
I have anger issues, and I am huge, 6"4 but as people around me says very agile and nimble for my size. I am mentally stable, in fact I had been a straight A student. But this fear that I might hurt someone if and when they pisses me off had turned me into a recluse. After I successfully fought off this immense desire to toss in a grenade or two into a noisy neighbor's party, I decided to move away from people, even pets, for fear I might harm them. I now live alone, and don't want to share where. It's peaceful here.
This is so very beside the subject, but in the intro to the video when it shows Ted Bundy having the dental thing done for his murder trials- he just looks like he knows that his luck had ran out lol. (Too bad it took so long)
Love the video ❤️