Please do a second video sailing this cat, i've admired the boat and its designer since i first came across is and would love to see this thing out on the water!
nice ideas, but the salon, and hulls, for a cat, too small. Sail with this in the southern oceans, and you're gonna hate it. There should be one helm station inside, and one outside.
There is more than adequate space in the hulls but definitely not a huge amount of spare space. You need to tell the crew to leave the deck chairs at home.
I regret setting foot on every monohull I've ever been on or owned with the exception of the Sabot I learned to sail on when I was 7. You just can't take a monohull seriously after ripping along at 20 knots on a trimaran or cruising on a cat when you can literally dance with 15 of your best new friends in the cockpit. Not to mention how rolly a mono is at anchor or how deep their draft is so you can't even get into the choicest of anchorages or river bars.
Don't know why all these boats never want to divulge the price? Why can they not say "From $xxx,xxx" It just means us dreamers can figure if this boat is a dream or within reality!
wow what a fresh design looks more open than most cats and still a nice slippery design.. why there are so many negative comments one wonders I think its always good to push new designs forward and not to stand on formality.
is that a versa helm , before the versa helm became marketed as the versa helm? they should have marketed it better , seems like they beat balance to it?
I know, this Vid is "old". I cant find any Information bout Alibi Cats on Internet, the Website seems to be broken, Facebook shows old Posts ... what is happening? Is Alibi still aviable? Or is them Business down? Regards!
Convert this from French to English: www.boatindustry.fr/article/26702/catamarans-alibi-liquidation-judiciaire Real shame! There is nothing really like it on the market. Maybe a Schionning G-Force but they have all the performance without the nice production boat fitouts.
These were first looks taken at the Grande Motte multihull show in France this year. I haven't seen a Balance at a European show yet - but if we get the chance of course we will try to cover one thanks
He didn't demonstrate the third position, which is completely inboard in front of the cabin door. The newest versahelm yachts such as the Outremer 55 are tri-position.
Watching this video in 2021 I think that's really too bad Alibi dos not exist anymore! The boat itself is super great. The interior design style is really refreshing. Not to mention the canting helm system copied ten years after by Balance! The 54 and 65 are great performance cats. Actually, except the dinghy system design which was pretty too bad, I really like this performant cat. On another hand, still don't understand why Alibis were built in Thailand! Along with the complicated dinghy system , that's their second big mistake. Regeneration systems are more reliable those days. I really think Loic Goepfert should have a second chance! An Alibi 65 with a standard carbon cross in the front and a regular cat dinghy system at the stern, this would be my perfect performance cat in 2021!
This boat is just crammed full of things where you think "why has no-one ever done that before?". It's a really clever design and looks way bigger and more comfortable than a (more or less) racer has any right to.
"...where they are experienced, in building windsurfers, and surfboards." Now there is a statement to build my confidence, in my million-dollar multihull, as I endure a rough crossing! ;-)
The comments on the tender launching position are laughable. Or do those who wrote them believe the builders didn‘t think about rough seas and the possibility of the thing being ripped off the boat 😂😂😂
Looks like a simple and clean design with a bit of flair. I wonder what the price and build quality is like. If he is sourcing internal fittings from Asia I would have my doubts. It looks like it is fast, enjoyable sailing.
well, the price is easily determined. Their website offers a tool that allows you to mix and match the different options and gives you the final price istantaneously.
There is no pricing on their website but it does give a lot more information. These are a very attractive vessel. There is a very well spec'd new pre owned one available for about 1.2 million euro.
Was sailing on one recently - owner moved the dinghy onto the longeron, works perfectly. This 11 year old boat is simply awesome, here is a video in action: ruclips.net/video/YoDqZQwmQuA/видео.html
SWATHs are are terrible idea for a sailing yacht. A swath's immersion rate goes down dramatically with depth and thus it's righting moment diminishes with heel, which is exactly opposite what you want with a sailing catamaran. How about getting a Schionning Gforce for 1/2 the price of anything Johnstone ever hyped and it'll sail as well or better?
What I don't get is how, with "all your experiences", you cannot see the obvious design flaws... you just tack about 2 or 3 things that impress you (and you don't need much to be impressed) but you never mention the important stuff... and you mention how great they are building yachts in Thailand? As much as I love Thai people, building yachts is not their forte... just look at the floor you are walking on.. Do you sell the dam thing? do you get a commission, or are you reviewing it? And I don't even mention how you can make such a depressing video about a yacht... cheer up mate!
I am sorry but that doesn't look or sound like good quality. It looks plasticky and cheap, the woods are all cheap veneers like you would find in IKEA. It's not often I disagree with oyu but that doesn't look that nice at all.
Performance boats use veneers over sandwich core to save considerably on weight and keep the speed up. Production boats that use solid ply or solid wood interior inserts are heavy and painfully slow.
If you cruise on a Cat, why not play on one.? Look into Expandacraft, a modular watercraft that stores in small spaces and converts into all sorts of different craft. Oh, and we ship all over the world.
what happens to a dinghy on rougher seas??? looks like a solution waiting for a problem...
Please do a second video sailing this cat, i've admired the boat and its designer since i first came across is and would love to see this thing out on the water!
dingi location does not seem smart in rough seas.
Waves are going to beat the hell out of that dingy!
Lovely - we would be very happy to deliver the Alibi 54 to any destination in the world!
nice ideas, but the salon, and hulls, for a cat, too small. Sail with this in the southern oceans, and you're gonna hate it. There should be one helm station inside, and one outside.
There is more than adequate space in the hulls but definitely not a huge amount of spare space. You need to tell the crew to leave the deck chairs at home.
Just watched hull number 9 in build on Scott Rocknak`s channel.
I've always been a monohull fan and only owned monohulls, but this catamaran looks pretty amazing.
Life is Like Sailing hi Alfie!
I regret setting foot on every monohull I've ever been on or owned with the exception of the Sabot I learned to sail on when I was 7. You just can't take a monohull seriously after ripping along at 20 knots on a trimaran or cruising on a cat when you can literally dance with 15 of your best new friends in the cockpit. Not to mention how rolly a mono is at anchor or how deep their draft is so you can't even get into the choicest of anchorages or river bars.
Don't know why all these boats never want to divulge the price? Why can they not say "From $xxx,xxx" It just means us dreamers can figure if this boat is a dream or within reality!
if you have to ask, you can't afford it.
I like it. Have had my eye on it for a while, but the yard seemed to go quiet after some early videos. Any idea on the rough price for this 54?
Fantastic Toby, another great review.
Dinghy water collection system. Brilliant!
This specific boat is hull number 8, a highly customized one with the build managed by ANTS Yacht-Consult from Austria
That’s a stunner!
Toby you should see if you can get aboard a Chris White Atlantic 47 or Atlanitc 49 Mastfoil Cat.
very highly original interiors. exceptional.
am also concerned for dingy operation in seaway etc
wow what a fresh design looks more open than most cats and still a nice slippery design.. why there are so many negative comments one wonders I think its always good to push new designs forward and not to stand on formality.
is that a versa helm , before the versa helm became marketed as the versa helm? they should have marketed it better , seems like they beat balance to it?
I know, this Vid is "old". I cant find any Information bout Alibi Cats on Internet, the Website seems to be broken, Facebook shows old Posts ... what is happening? Is Alibi still aviable? Or is them Business down? Regards!
Convert this from French to English: www.boatindustry.fr/article/26702/catamarans-alibi-liquidation-judiciaire
Real shame! There is nothing really like it on the market. Maybe a Schionning G-Force but they have all the performance without the nice production boat fitouts.
Beautiful boat in all ways. It has been a used one for sale for quite some time. Still too expensive for me, but I wonder why it never gets sold
Perhaps because the company no longer exists and such an expensive purchase would concern prospective buyers?
Please do a longer review on these cats.
Why haven't you covered the Balance 526 yet?
These were first looks taken at the Grande Motte multihull show in France this year. I haven't seen a Balance at a European show yet - but if we get the chance of course we will try to cover one thanks
the adjustable helm station changes the helmsman from "partially exposed to weather" to "fully exposed"
He didn't demonstrate the third position, which is completely inboard in front of the cabin door. The newest versahelm yachts such as the Outremer 55 are tri-position.
Don't care for that deck entry to the aft starboard berth.
I'm also not a fan of the port access through the galley.
Yeah, doesn't look like there's a hatch for it, although he mentioned the yacht was incomplete.
Looks good outside, but pos inside, imo)
Thou shalt not covet... I must remind myself. :)
Yes you can, it keeps the economy going (G. Carlin RIP)
Watching this video in 2021 I think that's really too bad Alibi dos not exist anymore! The boat itself is super great. The interior design style is really refreshing. Not to mention the canting helm system copied ten years after by Balance! The 54 and 65 are great performance cats. Actually, except the dinghy system design which was pretty too bad, I really like this performant cat. On another hand, still don't understand why Alibis were built in Thailand! Along with the complicated dinghy system , that's their second big mistake. Regeneration systems are more reliable those days. I really think Loic Goepfert should have a second chance! An Alibi 65 with a standard carbon cross in the front and a regular cat dinghy system at the stern, this would be my perfect performance cat in 2021!
Dumbest dinghy system ever..!!
How much???
if you have to ask, you can't afford it.
This boat is just crammed full of things where you think "why has no-one ever done that before?". It's a really clever design and looks way bigger and more comfortable than a (more or less) racer has any right to.
Agreed Adam - but what happened to Alibi?!
I'm melting!
"...where they are experienced, in building windsurfers, and surfboards." Now there is a statement to build my confidence, in my million-dollar multihull, as I endure a rough crossing! ;-)
дырка для динги реально приколола :))
The comments on the tender launching position are laughable. Or do those who wrote them believe the builders didn‘t think about rough seas and the possibility of the thing being ripped off the boat 😂😂😂
Electronic winches would make it suitable to make the cat a one man operation..
Looks like a simple and clean design with a bit of flair. I wonder what the price and build quality is like. If he is sourcing internal fittings from Asia I would have my doubts. It looks like it is fast, enjoyable sailing.
well, the price is easily determined. Their website offers a tool that allows you to mix and match the different options and gives you the final price istantaneously.
There is no pricing on their website but it does give a lot more information. These are a very attractive vessel. There is a very well spec'd new pre owned one available for about 1.2 million euro.
EUR 1.2M is the starting price for a brand new boat. I think you missed the page where you can build your boat: www.alibi-catamarans.com/spec/
thank you
Was sailing on one recently - owner moved the dinghy onto the longeron, works perfectly. This 11 year old boat is simply awesome, here is a video in action: ruclips.net/video/YoDqZQwmQuA/видео.html
Her designer must have been a big BattleStar Galactica fan, doesn't she look like a cylon? The sexy kind?
28kts?? Impressive but very bare and the saloon is too small for a liveaboard.
It looks nice - but not very practical for cruising (at all).
Hungover?
Waiting for another Peter Johnstone to produce a Cat with Swath design concepts that will hang at 20 knots......bring it....
SWATHs are are terrible idea for a sailing yacht. A swath's immersion rate goes down dramatically with depth and thus it's righting moment diminishes with heel, which is exactly opposite what you want with a sailing catamaran. How about getting a Schionning Gforce for 1/2 the price of anything Johnstone ever hyped and it'll sail as well or better?
What I don't get is how, with "all your experiences", you cannot see the obvious design flaws... you just tack about 2 or 3 things that impress you (and you don't need much to be impressed) but you never mention the important stuff... and you mention how great they are building yachts in Thailand? As much as I love Thai people, building yachts is not their forte... just look at the floor you are walking on.. Do you sell the dam thing? do you get a commission, or are you reviewing it? And I don't even mention how you can make such a depressing video about a yacht... cheer up mate!
I am sorry but that doesn't look or sound like good quality. It looks plasticky and cheap, the woods are all cheap veneers like you would find in IKEA.
It's not often I disagree with oyu but that doesn't look that nice at all.
Performance boats use veneers over sandwich core to save considerably on weight and keep the speed up. Production boats that use solid ply or solid wood interior inserts are heavy and painfully slow.
not sure about the material, but design wise i think the interior looks really good!
Bit beige, innit?
If you cruise on a Cat, why not play on one.? Look into Expandacraft, a modular watercraft that stores in small spaces and converts into all sorts of different craft. Oh, and we ship all over the world.
gimicky and not very attractive
Looks like gunboat