*Chip is also a good thunder belt user because of his 1st skill, if the enemies are stick together and used your basic attack, your stack with be doubled*
Edited: Golden Staff can't amplify Sun's Heal but it can amplify Corrosion Scythe's Passive, make his clones attack faster, heal faster. And Golden Staff can amplify his Passive's Damage Reduction, making him reduce his enemy's defense faster and kill the enemy faster. And I use Support Emblem on him, his Passive can benefit from Healing Effect, make him more heal. 10% CDR and 6% Movement Speed is good for him. But the downside is lower penetration, but since you have 40% Physical Defense Reduction, not a big matter.
Sun Clones are temporary, and yet still gives out exp and gold to enemy 😓 I wont complain about zhask creature which doesn't die unless getting killed or too far from it or Popol Kupa. Sun is basically a free food for exp laner who gives extra farm and leveling to his opponent 😢
I wanna try this now.. But first, I’ve been so obsessed with heroes who can abuse thunder belt rn. Kaja for me is another one. His basic attack range plus the slow on his passive + tb + 1s makes him one of the fastest that can stack this item. Based on my experience only. Almost the same speed as Sun’s ig. The advantage with sun is he can triple the damage. I also use this on popol and kupa, it’s pretty nice too. Lastly, I thought miya’s moonlight shadow clone inherits a percentage of the items she has but when I tried to use tb with her, it doesn’t work.
Speaking of Thunderbelt, I love using it on Alucard in the exp lane. I do it for fun in classic matches, since Alu is not meta, and the amount of stacks he can get is not to be underestimated.
I think for stacking, Badang is also a top hero. His first skill can stack thunderbelt. It will push enemies away so you can just use it to stack. It is AOE so it can hit multiple enemies and stack multiple times and even his ult can stack, so even when you engage you stack with thunderbelt.
Literally why get on a mage? Harley is already a long range hit and run mage . You aint even staying close to enemies for long time. Really useless if you ask me. Better to get damage items as fast as possible
@@Aska222 it wasn't from staying close always, it's just a pop in and out strategy. It's a good way to because some waste their skills even ults thinking I'm gotta ult on them 😹
I am SUN user. I always use Thunderbelt + Brute Force + Oracle + Scythe and Windtalker (or Great Dragon Spear). This build is very op specially in the mid- to late game :)
What? Sun to OP? Are u dumb? They nerf thunderbelt cuz the tank passive can increase the dmg of the thunderbelt true dmg. Sun passive doesn't increase def. Tank like gatot passive, khufra 2nd skill. That's why the thunderbelt passive 'Total' changes to 'Extra'.
there is actually higher skill to stack sun thunder belt. His 3rd skill actually line AOE damage, meaning you can hit enemy on from the main target, so use sun 3rd skill on creep for longer range and surprise enemy and much distance between you and him for safety.
Sun roaming is the best for me because you can stack fast in the early game once you get thunderbelt and just keep on rotating and using your third skill(his third skill is considered a basic attack when hit) and its easy to get mvp because of the red roaming boots you use to get assist easily... highly recommend petrify for the spell...I got winstreak and mvp streaks with this strategy...I love that it's getting recognized now...hoping that sun won't be banned to often though 😂😂😂
Ok currently at Immortal 107 stars SOLO , mainly used SUN and this was my first time playing him as well. Got 64% wr on him even with hard counters. He is VERY GOOD if in the right hands. Here's what you SHOULD do - Build thunderbelt,Fast boots, corrison sythe,Demon hunter sword, Dominance.. Always pick petrify with assassin emblem and all movement up slots Edit: can make a video on it if you want.. or just ask for tips Uid:Meroladokhel
I didn't even know the thunderbelt combo with Sun was that much of a big deal, I just use it on him because I figured it would be easier to get the stacks with him.
I use sun as a tank and it works lol. I use curse helmet, thunderbelt and blade armor for damage and all of these items work both for sun and clones He can melt miya or hanabi easily with blad armor hahah 😎
Not just that , semi tank sun is VERY FUN! The constant poking and the high mobility provide great Laning phase and ambush The Builds That I Use: Tough/Warrior Boots Thunder Belt War Axe Corrosion Scythe (Build the crossbow before or after thunder Belt) Dominance Ice/Sea Halberd Demon Hunter Sword Use sprint for spell Just use any emblem that suits your gameplay I recommend it if you want to give it a try😊
I have 2 questions: Q1: would the stack work on minions, creeps, jungle camps? Q2: would the stack work if it's hit by suns 2nd or 1st kill when thrown at a champ?
just like what happened to zhask, he's damage on the old version is much stronger compared to what it is now. It's just happened that he recently have an appearance in tournaments and players started to use it and saw the potential
Sun has great disadvantages to khalid because the clone can be easily killed by the first skill of khalid. Additionally, khalid can accumulate 40 stacks of thunder belt in just 12 mins or shorter. You'll know why if you try khalid in RG's.
Sun for me now is like a cheat code late game 1 v1 he is almost unbeatable plus the slow effect from thunder belt + corrosion + weakness finder and petrify makes it impossible to escape his combo
my badang with thunder belt magic boots thunder belt war axe queen's wings athena's shield || just to annoy mage || brute force breasplate this build have enough damage to burst mage/mm also strong enough to take full team combo also good for chasing low CD 2rd skill
How about using critical attack? Yeah I agree about him been so squishy. But, he can insta kill anyone who squishy and can easily melt tanks even if they are as tanky as ever. Just buy all critical items, a physical defence boot, and the last item depends on the game, either u buy magic defence or armor, or go with blade of despair if all are squishy.
Tip: You can stack up to 5 stacks of thunderbelt in one go if you use your third skill (instantaneous move) on the enemy team that are clumped together.
hi please help i got confused i thought you youll not benefit on this if your not a full tank build because of extra true damage. i thought the def from item only benefits it not the stacks from belt?please help master
Before the thunderbelt was buffed, I enjoy playing sun i kinda hate that it becomes more popular and nerf will be coming soon I discover it way back because lf Master the Basics
However remember, Sun can hardly initiate fights so make sure your jungle and roamer are initiators and tanky. Sun can only function properly if he has CC/stun teammates
kay kelra ko nalaman yung new stack ng thunder belt combo nasa yt nya yung clint nung nakaraan pa un e, after nun lahat ng hero na ginagamit ko auto buy thunderbelt pero ngaun pahirapan na.. nauso e hahahaha..
This Black Myth Wukong vibe is influencing greatly..
Black Myth Wukong is different, he doesn't build Thunderbelt, he builds 6 Immortality. 😂 Lol
@@Nickzz05 I will be a nerd here just because i love sun wukong it's actually 7 immortality not 6 🤓🤓
@@dubleYou5967 I know. I said 6 because there's only 6 item builds in ML.
elite skin of sun feels like sun wukong 😂
@@GojoSatori-zn5pj Absolutely bro. But what I like the most is the Collector. Looks like Dark Wukong. 😆
0:27 very slick elgin... very slick😏
Hahahaha😂
I don't get it
@@WrathOfSolProtect This Guy At All Cost😂
@@WrathOfSolif you don't understand we need more people like you
@@neltv647 yeah fr we like people who understand this things
2:19 wow from 10% chance of winning to 10.1% change great improvement 🗿
With the rise of Black Myth Wukong, Sun sure is getting popular again.
Fr hahahaha
fr, i suddenly feel the urge to play sun, no, monkey king
*Chip is also a good thunder belt user because of his 1st skill, if the enemies are stick together and used your basic attack, your stack with be doubled*
as well as Gatotcaka
Yep, Chip accumulates stack faster.
Edited: Golden Staff can't amplify Sun's Heal but it can amplify Corrosion Scythe's Passive, make his clones attack faster, heal faster. And Golden Staff can amplify his Passive's Damage Reduction, making him reduce his enemy's defense faster and kill the enemy faster. And I use Support Emblem on him, his Passive can benefit from Healing Effect, make him more heal. 10% CDR and 6% Movement Speed is good for him. But the downside is lower penetration, but since you have 40% Physical Defense Reduction, not a big matter.
Yes but it depends there are better item
I use common emblem on him. I use dom ice with wind talker and thunderbelt. Bro is so fast lol.
I thought the heal effect in support emblem only works on heal applied to allies, not yourself?
@@valkeditz31 Heal works, but not Lifesteal nor Spell Vamp
Common emblem much better cuz sun has built in heal, he doesn't have to go back to base anymore to replenish mana cuz of his spammable skills.
Moonton also need to fixed the visual bug where the tower is targeting the clone but you still see the red circle.
True,very trueeeeee
Fax, I start panicking when that happens
Its very confusing and makes us not sure whether to keep attackin or get out of range.
Just a warning to the real body 😶
Yeah mann
4 mins of straight up useful information, unlike the chatgpt youtuber.
Kazuki??
Stacks is useless when your teammates is feeding like there's no tomorrow
You're absolutely right about that
Sun became a hot pick because of Black Myth Wukong 😂
That’s why I’ve been seeing Sun recently
Sun Clones are temporary, and yet still gives out exp and gold to enemy 😓
I wont complain about zhask creature which doesn't die unless getting killed or too far from it or Popol Kupa.
Sun is basically a free food for exp laner who gives extra farm and leveling to his opponent 😢
I wanna try this now.. But first, I’ve been so obsessed with heroes who can abuse thunder belt rn. Kaja for me is another one. His basic attack range plus the slow on his passive + tb + 1s makes him one of the fastest that can stack this item. Based on my experience only. Almost the same speed as Sun’s ig. The advantage with sun is he can triple the damage.
I also use this on popol and kupa, it’s pretty nice too. Lastly, I thought miya’s moonlight shadow clone inherits a percentage of the items she has but when I tried to use tb with her, it doesn’t work.
I've been trying it with Zilong and it works really well, He build it really fast. buy it as your first item and play really cautious at the beginning
Speaking of Thunderbelt, I love using it on Alucard in the exp lane. I do it for fun in classic matches, since Alu is not meta, and the amount of stacks he can get is not to be underestimated.
Pick rate skyrocket because Thunderbelt ❌
Pick rate skyrocket because of the game Black Myth: Wukong ✅
Once tried Tanky Sun with Push Strats
safe to say the tank Karrie wasn't having a good time trying to defend with the bad true dmg
Black Myth Wukong looks different today
Demn Elgin, you revealed my technique HAHAHA
THANK YOU ELGIN! I WANTED TO PLAY THIS HERO SO BAD BUT I DUNNO THE BUILD. AT LEAST NOW I CAN PLAY THIS WITH CONFIDENCE.
I think for stacking, Badang is also a top hero. His first skill can stack thunderbelt. It will push enemies away so you can just use it to stack. It is AOE so it can hit multiple enemies and stack multiple times and even his ult can stack, so even when you engage you stack with thunderbelt.
Sun's pick rate is probably increasing cause of the influence of the game Black Myth Wukong
I use it on Harley, 2nd > bsc attack > escape with second. Been on streak with that strat 😂
Nah, Harley is a mage, you only get half of the stacks applied to your stats
Literally why get on a mage? Harley is already a long range hit and run mage . You aint even staying close to enemies for long time. Really useless if you ask me. Better to get damage items as fast as possible
@@Jays_MotionLess no, I did s test, and he turns out to be an assassin, benefits fully from stacks
@@Aska222 it wasn't from staying close always, it's just a pop in and out strategy. It's a good way to because some waste their skills even ults thinking I'm gotta ult on them 😹
@@redrose9330 Is that so? I thought his main role is a Mage
Well, I'm about to try semi-tank Harley now in classic
I've been using sun with thunder belt before you made this video '_'
I am SUN user. I always use Thunderbelt + Brute Force + Oracle + Scythe and Windtalker (or Great Dragon Spear). This build is very op specially in the mid- to late game :)
Lore accurate Sun Wukong
If he was lore accurate in mlbb he would absolutely beat most of the other heroes.
@@Kenjinwoo all*
Thank you elgin for this video , now moonton will nerf my main hero to the ground again
sun is pretty fun to play if you get your items. i just hate his mana issue.
You can fix that with basic emblem or with mana boots
The game Black myth wukong and Sun are both doing well, what a crazy coincidence
tried it right after watching this video, actually works well
Was already doing this at the start of the season. Took me to MG pretty quickly
Also try Khufra. He can stack it very easily.
Kaja too with his passive.
I'm real glad they Nerf thunderbelt this Item are too OP for Sun,Gatot,Hylos
Too OP? 🙂 Meanwhile Tank user never complains about Sky Piercer
@@re5844 a lot of players complained abt sky piecer though
@@re5844tf are you on players on reddit have complained about sky piercer alot
What? Sun to OP? Are u dumb? They nerf thunderbelt cuz the tank passive can increase the dmg of the thunderbelt true dmg. Sun passive doesn't increase def. Tank like gatot passive, khufra 2nd skill. That's why the thunderbelt passive 'Total' changes to 'Extra'.
@@re5844 they complained so much about sky piercer they nerfed it to near Uselessness
Fredrinn, sun and roger(Skill users who relay on basic atks):Me and the boi's rockin the land of dawn with these belts.....
there is actually higher skill to stack sun thunder belt. His 3rd skill actually line AOE damage, meaning you can hit enemy on from the main target, so use sun 3rd skill on creep for longer range and surprise enemy and much distance between you and him for safety.
Sun roaming is the best for me because you can stack fast in the early game once you get thunderbelt and just keep on rotating and using your third skill(his third skill is considered a basic attack when hit) and its easy to get mvp because of the red roaming boots you use to get assist easily... highly recommend petrify for the spell...I got winstreak and mvp streaks with this strategy...I love that it's getting recognized now...hoping that sun won't be banned to often though 😂😂😂
Ok currently at Immortal 107 stars SOLO , mainly used SUN and this was my first time playing him as well. Got 64% wr on him even with hard counters. He is VERY GOOD if in the right hands. Here's what you SHOULD do -
Build thunderbelt,Fast boots, corrison sythe,Demon hunter sword, Dominance..
Always pick petrify with assassin emblem and all movement up slots
Edit: can make a video on it if you want.. or just ask for tips Uid:Meroladokhel
Have you ever considered using common emblem or support emblem?
sun user myself but i never used those 2 but the community said it was good
I wish we meet one day
I like dealing with sun and argus players
They are so easy to kil🎉
@@Nemesisprimee well if you send your Uid i can add you, we can spar sometimes
Black myth Wu kong inspired this popularity👇
Battle axe and endless battle item is a good combo for sun becuase of the continues dmg boost and enhance basic attack
revamp idea is we get to switch controls between our clones to confuse our enemy more :D
I didn't even know the thunderbelt combo with Sun was that much of a big deal, I just use it on him because I figured it would be easier to get the stacks with him.
What will we get from the anniversary card from last year😊
You are genius 🎉
Sun still needs a perfect revamp he's almost nothing
Nahh he is trouble for some marksman and assassins
@@ItsDioYourbestGirlhe still need little more buff his get countered so hard by spellvamp hero like yu zhong ruby
I'm using Thinderbelt on Argus😅
Since his skill 2 is Basic Attack property, he could stack easily too😅
I use sun as a tank and it works lol. I use curse helmet, thunderbelt and blade armor for damage and all of these items work both for sun and clones
He can melt miya or hanabi easily with blad armor hahah 😎
I cant believe he predicted the future
Fly high elgin🕊🕊🕊🕊
Finally Elgin recognize Sun 😊
That "its depend on your teammate", poor my Aurora that always got MVP and Legendary 😢😢😢
Stacking thunderbelt with Raphaela is just too good. Reached 87 stacks today 😂
the new fleeting time is also very good on Sun
Not just that , semi tank sun is VERY FUN! The constant poking and the high mobility provide great Laning phase and ambush
The Builds That I Use:
Tough/Warrior Boots
Thunder Belt
War Axe
Corrosion Scythe (Build the crossbow before or after thunder Belt)
Dominance Ice/Sea Halberd
Demon Hunter Sword
Use sprint for spell
Just use any emblem that suits your gameplay
I recommend it if you want to give it a try😊
It would be cool if montoon could revamp his skills to resemble sun from black myth wukong like his skill that can immobilize target
He would get ban every game cuzit would be a nightmare for assassins and marksmen's
Even the Black Myth Wukong is a huge nerf from the real Sun Wukong. :D
I thought ppl use sun because of black Myth: wukong
I have 2 questions:
Q1: would the stack work on minions, creeps, jungle camps?
Q2: would the stack work if it's hit by suns 2nd or 1st kill when thrown at a champ?
You only get stack when enemy heroes get hit by the thunderbelt sparks that come from your real body
They should revamp sun like black myth woukong
Hey, Elgin. As Star Wars event's come back again, could you please make a video about how to get the skins the cheapest?
Elgin this is my build since that belt came out(even the old one) 🤣 Now its popularized due to aldous mechanic.
Salamat sa tip po ❤
Hey bro what's the reason behind removing Starwars event from Vpn
Can you talk about alpha in your next video alpha is op with blade of despair if you build it first in early game
As Lolita I managed to get around 80 stacks of thunderbelt. It was 20 minute game.
Damn i Will buy Sun after This video
Use basic emblem and armour boots for early game sustain.
Making want to use sun again, thanks
It's veryyyy useful
Am I the only one who is using sun to absolutely destroy enemies in immortal rank ?
This is the effect of having a free epic skin, the hero gets noticed and players see the potential
just like what happened to zhask, he's damage on the old version is much stronger compared to what it is now. It's just happened that he recently have an appearance in tournaments and players started to use it and saw the potential
Sun has great disadvantages to khalid because the clone can be easily killed by the first skill of khalid. Additionally, khalid can accumulate 40 stacks of thunder belt in just 12 mins or shorter. You'll know why if you try khalid in RG's.
What build does Khalid use with Thunderbelt?
@esmondgoh3112 when I'm using khalid in exp, I usually make him tanky.
even without thunderbelt, we shine - sun user
They need to bring this version of Thunderbelt back… f moonton
Kufra : *Laughs in sentient toilet paper.*
Sun for me now is like a cheat code late game 1 v1 he is almost unbeatable plus the slow effect from thunder belt + corrosion + weakness finder and petrify makes it impossible to escape his combo
I met this hero three times in rank and in all of them he was either gold or mvp
my badang with thunder belt
magic boots
thunder belt
war axe
queen's wings
athena's shield || just to annoy mage ||
brute force breasplate
this build have enough damage to burst mage/mm also strong enough to take full team combo
also good for chasing low CD 2rd skill
How about using critical attack? Yeah I agree about him been so squishy. But, he can insta kill anyone who squishy and can easily melt tanks even if they are as tanky as ever.
Just buy all critical items, a physical defence boot, and the last item depends on the game, either u buy magic defence or armor, or go with blade of despair if all are squishy.
True damage 👍
nice vid
Sun with thunderbelt + wind talker with petrify could burst squishy enemy enough
Elgin do u have a cold?
Your voice is very different
Tip: You can stack up to 5 stacks of thunderbelt in one go if you use your third skill (instantaneous move) on the enemy team that are clumped together.
I didn't know that! I did have suspicion coz sometimes I get multiple stacks but I know that clones don't get stacks.
Nicee❤
Sun could be meta in the next season
Same thing with yin., first skills in, second skill to get out
But yin always bend
It's really good.... I was building it before it was even used by others..
Attendance ✅✅✅ Keep supporting guys!
15 minutes LETS GO
For other two builds, build DHS and Windtalker
@elgin8..ON.....DISCORD-i wait, what?! 😱🤗
hi please help i got confused
i thought you youll not benefit on this if your not a full tank build because of extra true damage. i thought the def from item only benefits it not the stacks from belt?please help master
Sun can also solo shred the Lord.
What jungle heroes counter Sun, And what Jungle heroes Sun counters? Thanks!
I started to use this combo when they changed thunderbelt
Good tutorials, but I'm not Sun user
Sun getting attention because of thunderbelt stack? While badang can literally stack thunderbelt without an effort lol
Badang has no clones. Sun is 3 tanks already. hahaha Actually, 2.5 tanks if we consider how attributes are distributed on clones and original.
Before the thunderbelt was buffed, I enjoy playing sun i kinda hate that it becomes more popular and nerf will be coming soon
I discover it way back because lf Master the Basics
Nah he won't get nerfed since Thunderbelt is getting a nerf.
Sun's been nerfed continuously already haha We don't need another one.
However remember, Sun can hardly initiate fights so make sure your jungle and roamer are initiators and tanky. Sun can only function properly if he has CC/stun teammates
Waraxe and dominance also good for sun
Pick Sun coz Meta? ❌
Pick Sun coz of Thunder Belt.❌
Pick Sun because of Free Skin. ✔️
😂😂😂
Me picks Sun cuz of BlackMyth Wukong
Sun get more pick rate because sun wukong popularity is rising right now because of that new game Black Myth Wukong😂
It makes sense cause sun is litterally wearing thunder belt 😂
kay kelra ko nalaman yung new stack ng thunder belt combo nasa yt nya yung clint nung nakaraan pa un e, after nun lahat ng hero na ginagamit ko auto buy thunderbelt pero ngaun pahirapan na.. nauso e hahahaha..