I ultimately disagree with the premise. the internet is more than just social media, and there are a lot of genuinely good use cases that are also being corrupted by AI which is a bad thing. you can stop being terminally online without needing everything else alongside twitter to burn.
Thing is, that's kind of on big tech though. We aren't opting into an AI take over, big tech is forcing it down our throats like they did internet, smart phones, gps, etc., If the internet gets shittier that's entirely on big tech for insisting they know better than us what the future should be. That said, I do take your point that a decaying internet would have pros and cons and ways we'd have to adapt that likely would be less convenient or even detrimental to important functions the internet provides.
I don’t believe that the increase of AIs on the internet will actually decrease our usage of social media too substantially. It will just continue to detriment our social health. Sure, some will follow the pattern you described, but many will not, especially not those of us who are more easily manipulated.
I like to hope repeating the message enough might get people more on board. I actually think his cave shadows analogy might be what I need to cut down on the internet and focus on art like I've been trying to do.
I've been feeling a lot of the things you've mentioned in this video. I've pretty much quit all social media aside from youtube, where it feels like the only reason why I'm still on here is for genuine creators just making neat stuff. I don't like feeling manipulated, and I don't like that my algorithm always tries to serve me 100 more videos just like the one i just clicked on by accident. I still feel like I'm getting served piles and piles of garbage, having to sort through and find the valuable gems mixed in. And yes the problem with "it's not just you that's addicted, everyone around you is too" has become very noticeable in my life. Hanging out becomes showing each other reels, tiktoks or yt videos. A large portion of my friends and I work in tech and it's like some people don't know how to just "hang out" without being glued to a screen, and it's especially more noticeable with the younger generation coming in. Apparently it's "normal" to just hop into a discord call while you're hanging out in the same room as all your friends and everyone's having a conversation or be on your phone the whole time??? What happened to being present? I'm definitely feeling old here and I'm only 25... and the more time goes on I feel myself gravitating to the hobbies that just highlight the beauty of the real world instead of being sucked into the internet. analog photography, painting, hiking, cooking, live music... Most of my friends that are chronically online are terribly depressed and highly insecure. The internet's done more than ruin how we interact with the real world but, it's ruined our perception of ourselves, our ability to make stable conscious and meaningful relationships and be comfortable in our own bodies in the outside world. I've been learning more and more just how much the social courtesies we were taught were not just there to teach you to "be a good person" but because socializing can be painful when nobody knows how to act right. If all you ever do online is be hyper critical of other people and talk shit, and you just carry that over into your real life relationships, you're going to burn every bridge and wonder why the world hates you. You can't hide face to face with someone. And some people in the opposite way have become overly sensitive because of underexposure to real life situations and people and haven't built up those social callouses, myself included. I think we'd be better off and become more humane if our lives weren't so deeply intertwined with what isn't real.
I agree 100% with what you've said. You don't have to become a technophobe but the need to interact with things that are real and tangible is human nature and it's strange that you have to justify yourself about it.
I agree that the internet creeping into every aspect of our lives sucks, but the solution is not to mess up how useful and reliable the internet is. Thats like saying I don't like how much time my kids are spending on video games so I am going to get them the most garbage PC hardware so they can only play it on 20 FPS that will surely make them touch grass. A solution is definitely needed but probably not that.
fantastic work, dude. i 100% agree and understand what your video is saying. person to person, i understand internet addiction and the FOMO you feel logging off when your irl friends are sometimes more online than offline, and it can be crazy. i appreciate this video so much! this vid felt like a beautiful expansion of this one thought i had buried in my subconscious for like an entire year... so cool! im happy when the algorithim brings me such a gem. i wish you the best!! you earned yourself a sub.
Go to any, and I mean ANY, video about alcoholism or "stop drinking" and in the comments there's always a bot talking about magic mushrooms and then bots reply that it saved their life and this or that person can ship them discretly yadda yadda, like they're having a convo amongst themselves. In every single one of those videos. No exceptions.
internet of today was very intentionally shaped by monopolies and governments for their own agenda. but it is not like it cannot be changed. the choice is between the lack of internet and the internet that we have today is a false dichotomy. imo, wikipedia, for all it's faults, is a great promise of what the internet could actually be. internet archive + sci-hub + z-library are also great.
Not to be fake deep but Ray Bradbury was really onto something with the people in Fahrenheit 452 being addicted to interactive TV and seashell headphones that were utterly worthless in terms of provoking any kind of thought, critical thinking, joy, or sadness.
I have learned so much on the internet. RUclips can definitely be a time waster but I have learned so much about history, computers, art, and philosophy by many channels that are on here. The thing for me thats truly a leech is social media apps like twitter, instagram, snapchat, etc.. I can’t count how many hours I’ve wasted on Instagram watching brainless opinions on topics and mind numbing “entertainment”. I would love for Instagram to be eradicated, but I think more educational and longform platforms like RUclips can be pretty useful.
Why should we not, simply, make it illegal to knowingly deceive someone into thinking they're talking to a real person, when they're really talking to a bot?
With the elections results I'm actually joining up with organizations irl to make friends and build up resilience and do my very best to help others and have them help me. Ultimately with the internet gone, a lot of the "safe havens" that exist and used to exist online, will not be there anymore. Especially for rural areas, that's a bad thing, many people there are oppressed. But you would probably be correct to say that something has to be done about the root of the problem, which isn't the internet itself, but the corporatization of it (imo). In fact, the monetization of fucking everything is pretty miserable. Even the grocery stores I go to don't have the nice benches to sit and talk at that they used to have 15 years ago when I was a kid. We can't simply all get off the internet if there's no infrastructure irl to support people, and engaging is actively more difficult than living in the garbagescape of the internet.
I'm planning to try and support my local community too. It'd be nice to have third spaces again, and as you said with these elections results I think a lot of people are going to suffer in the next few years and I want to spend my time trying to help the people who will need it most in any way I can.
Shoving something down everyone's throat ≠ progress, and there has been zero actual progress in the AI field. All they do is train the same models on wider data sets, but the returns are diminishing fast.
I remember when I was young "real music" was done by people playing instruments. Dance music producers were literally seen as AI artists are seen these days. They "just push buttons". Because people are not familiarized with the intricacies of electronic music production, they devalue. Nowadays there are AI programs that can make beautiful music with writing prompts. You can literally type something like "A mariachi death metal version of Madonna singing Billie Jean by Michael Jackson but she's got a strep infection" and then machine will render it for you in 5 seconds. Humanity will be replaced, that much is 100% certain. We are just a stage in the evolution of intelligence.
As a person who talks to meat people, I'm constantly amazed at how chatgpt offers more humanity in response to my questions. When I ask something in thematic group chat or public forum or even local community, my insides compress in a tight ball preparing for unkind or cruel responses sometimes up to implying I shouldn't be alive. While a robot answers "sure! Here's some of the options you can look into". I'm staying with the dead internet for now.
This is simultaneously a whole-ass mood and a nightmare to consider that we're essentially offloading our human capacity for empathy and kindness onto machinery. Not sharing it, not teaching it, but offloading it completely. 🥲
It would be offloading if people would consciously decide to stop being kind because the machines can be for them now. I doubt that anyone thinks like that. AI is rather restoring and preserving kindness and fair discourse.
Yes, chatgpt has obvious problems but honestly, 85% of the time I would rather ask him if it is a subject he understands and can give me a "concrete" answer, I partially agree with people who hate AI but I disagree that things like chatgpt for example slow us down and make us "lazy".
@brunopereira-gx7dp being looked down at slows us more than technology for sure. As an autistic person who naturally lays out all the context for the question, relevant sources and examples, chatGPT appreciates it as much as people hate it 😅 and I get great answers!
I appreciate you giving your view. I am in the same type of boat (I guess you could say we all are). It does make me feel uneasy but I appreciate it nonetheless because it makes me feel a little less lonely. You're a real one for that.
I am not a bot. Great shirt btw;) I'm watching the internet while loom knitting, which I learned off the internet. I think it's about learning balance. The internet is a tool, and the more we treat it as a tool and less as an extention of our identity, the more we can appreciate it for what it should be in our lives. Just deleted fb off my devices a few days ago, as I'd scroll for hours when I need to go to bed. Yes, it is fundamentally designed to be addictive, and we need to find ways to change our relationship with it. I have noticed bots and fake posts and accounts flooding social media more recently, and it pisses me off, which as you say, I feel is a good thing. It sours the milk and weans us off. I have also more recently been taking to collecting hard copy how to books on various subjects, just because I feel the internet is just a blip in our history- others may beg to differ. Either way, I'll still have my own hard copy and digital library. Get out and touch grass, and also keep in touch with folks and be entertained online. Do both, it doesn't have to be either or.
i don't know who the hell you are or what your channel is about but i just watched two of your videos and they were great so looking forward to trying and figuring out those first two questions
There's a reason for it! Within two years the data wars will be in full swing. The real internet has been purposely saturated with AI to the point where there is no good data to scrape. Note that nearly every aspect of true usability of a given platform required first an account and then increasingly an app. AI has escalated and enabled one of the major goals big data has: to provide a 'safe' AI-free, SEO free, unblockable ads TOS protected internet complete with a fully functional search. An internet that requires a verified biometric ID and protected account with non-optional full user data/biometric data tracking to use. It will be a subscription model of course so that you will be paying them to scrape your data/biometric every second you are online. Ad-free will be a considerably higher priced tier. The real internet will become a functionally useless wasteland of SEO spam, ads and AI sludge designed entirely to drive subscriptions to the 'new' internet. Big Data will probably debut this flagship of Big Data's dominance over the world's data around 2027 or 2028. Depends on a few factors but its more likely now that Big Business is our government.
Honestly sounds like an even more compelling reason to tune out. Why would I want to do that if I can still text and video chat my friends and family to know what's up in their world, schedule hang outs, and learn skills or make art or just exist in the real world for free?
The main issue with AI is that it challenges people’s sense of purpose. If everything we can do can be done by AI faster, better, and at larger scales, where does that leave us? Take doctors, for instance: even the best doctors rely on their own training, reading, and experience. In contrast, an AI could analyze test results by comparing them with millions of other cases and stay updated on the latest research in real time. No human doctor can match that. While I don’t think doctors are going away, their role may shift to overseeing AI decisions, serving more as a check on the technology and retaining symbolic authority rather than functional power. This trend could extend to many fields, where people might remain in symbolic roles for liability reasons, like in cases of investor fraud or malpractice, since AI can’t be held legally accountable. In the creative industry, where there’s a lot of anti-AI sentiment, we should remember that much of what’s considered “art” in fields like web design, logo creation, interior design, or studio filmmaking is more about producing for a customer than true artistic expression. Many of these roles are likely to be automated. In a market economy, consumer power is crucial, and while the rich may hoard wealth, it won’t be sustainable, as the economy ultimately relies on consumers to fuel it. Perhaps I’m being optimistic, but I believe AI will grant people more free time to pursue personal goals. I also think companies will retain employees not only for symbolic roles but to explore new, ambitious ideas. With AI handling tedious and bureaucratic tasks, businesses could operate with less stress and more efficiency. The competitive nature of the AI industry should help make this technology widely accessible, preventing it from being monopolized by institutions, as we’ve seen with tools like BlackRock’s Aladdin. Some may argue that government intervention is needed to prevent mass layoffs, but I think that would be a misstep. Regulations could inadvertently lower wages as companies find ways to use AI through loopholes or illegal practices.
Making people unemployed does not grant them free time to pursue goals; it just makes their time consumed by searching for a job that they cannot get. Unless there is accountability for the super wealthy to share the benefits of AI, this is not a good thing for humanity.
@@carultch Honestly a big reason why we need to hold the uber wealthy to task for their obscene wealth no one person needs and push for social nets like free healthcare, UBI, affordable housing, and more now. If the uber wealthy want to automate everyone's jobs away they can't leave us starving on the streets unless they want to know what if felt like to be Marie Antoinette.
Think you hit the nail on the head close to the end there; the overwhelming existence of AI-based content makes certain platforms, in that sense, "not fun." I've been trying to pop back onto FB every so often, but actual life updates from friends are interspersed with so much generative slop from pages I don't even follow that I don't clock nearly as much time on it as I used to. Arguably, same with Shorts here on YT; between inaccurate captions, scenes that cut out suddenly, it all just feels so inauthentic. If I have to plow my way through seven videos of generative slop to get to something that truly feels made by a human, I'm less inclined to devote that time to it and more likely to chase one of the 400+ other pursuits you listed! But then again, that is what those particular programs are designed for. It's all just for content generation on a content-fueled website, programmed by people who find worth and merit in those kinds of metrics. Also, we are at least part Artificial with all them microplastics floating around! Fantastic video; really appreciate how you operated more in the middle/gray area of AI's functionality, rather than the doom-and-gloom (that I too often fall into) OR the praising adoration of it. This will unironically help me recolor my own perspective on the whole dynamic.
Internet by ID, sites only see the token of a session and not your ID and credentials. People without this token cannot access a site or can only be there with restrictions and de-algorythmed from the feed of people, also their content willbe marked as "not a real person"
I have found it is a lonely place indeed, this offline meatspace, full choice and lethagy. Great video, well said, and the inclusion of a statement from everyones weird Aunt Robert Smith and a excellent choice of attire betrays this is a Gentleman of fine culture and class. Oh the irony
I tend to agree with you, but I have one fundamental disagreement. The internet has always been a system of communication between computers, not people. I think your conception of what the internet is is overly weighted towards social media. The internet will live long after the humans have left.
Pretty good video, though I largely disagree, I appreciate the alternative viewpoint. A lot of my disagreements are based on belief, not fact, so it's not really fruitful to state them here. But I quite enjoyed this.
You used to have to go to a legit website, and now you can get your halucinating "AI companion" telling you what their hallucinations tell them what it is. That is clearly a good thing. Every fucking week, I have seen dangerous misinformation coming out of the AI Overview. And that's a good thing. Right?
A really good video! Though id like to throw in my own two cents- as much as i totally get the incentive of 'if it's all garbage ai slop, people are more likely to get bored easier', and the fact that your title is as you stated yourself, not entirely sincere, I think you underwhelm the harm that is happening with the spread of ai. Google any type of landscape, or fantasy character- rather than being hit with genuine human made masterpieces, its flooded with trashy ai slop with no soul, that was probably fed stolen artworks. Any articles you view - they're even more so designed to waste your time, created more and more to be monetised and bring no value, as ai can only repeat stuff from other sources already created. I guess what my point is, that ai flooding the internet is truly a saddening, our modern day burning of the library of alexandria. We have infinite access to human discoveries and creativity, which is very quickly beginning to get lost in the ocean of trash that is ai slop. Social media ARE an issue and idm discourse beiung a bit more flooded with bots, but it becomes an issue when other areas of the web are at such terrible risk of being lost.
This whole idea of internet dying is stupid. People who know how to use internet are fine. Only people spending half their lifes on social media, reading articles or being fed some other automatic feed have problem. But they had a problem even before that - they should not spend so much yime on internet to begin with
Tay being racist has nothing to do with what users fed to her. All ai trained on scraped data is Tribalist, because group hating other group is foundation idea of tribalism philosophy we lived under for 200k years. inside group preference is not racism.
That seems like a suspect take. Even if you want to argue tribalism is some kind of bioessentialist human nature that isn't inherently racist, okay sure but then how does that translate to Tay saying objectively racist sh*t if it wasn't scraping from sources that were being racist?
You hear a lot of criticism against programmers harming creative people. Isn't programming also creative? It's quite incredible what they've made from freely available data on the internet. It only became a problem, once they made something cool.
Programming is 100% creative. I do it alongside music, art, & animation. How you choose to solve a problem, how you go about implementing each individual process, even down to how each programmer formats their code (eg. new line after a curly bracket, spaces in-between parenthesis) are a unique and artistic thing. Writing code is like making a song or drawing a picture to me, it just isn't really viewed that way because of the nature of programming (people don't see tech-ey things like that as artistic for one reason or another)
I ultimately disagree with the premise. the internet is more than just social media, and there are a lot of genuinely good use cases that are also being corrupted by AI which is a bad thing. you can stop being terminally online without needing everything else alongside twitter to burn.
Thing is, that's kind of on big tech though. We aren't opting into an AI take over, big tech is forcing it down our throats like they did internet, smart phones, gps, etc., If the internet gets shittier that's entirely on big tech for insisting they know better than us what the future should be. That said, I do take your point that a decaying internet would have pros and cons and ways we'd have to adapt that likely would be less convenient or even detrimental to important functions the internet provides.
I don’t believe that the increase of AIs on the internet will actually decrease our usage of social media too substantially. It will just continue to detriment our social health. Sure, some will follow the pattern you described, but many will not, especially not those of us who are more easily manipulated.
Finally someone with actual intelligence.
That's why we need the internet 3.0
Not powered by blockchain but powered by holochain and Internet Computer Protocol!!!
Ai is a large part in why i don't join twitter or facebook, so it does have an impact
I like to hope repeating the message enough might get people more on board. I actually think his cave shadows analogy might be what I need to cut down on the internet and focus on art like I've been trying to do.
I've been feeling a lot of the things you've mentioned in this video. I've pretty much quit all social media aside from youtube, where it feels like the only reason why I'm still on here is for genuine creators just making neat stuff. I don't like feeling manipulated, and I don't like that my algorithm always tries to serve me 100 more videos just like the one i just clicked on by accident. I still feel like I'm getting served piles and piles of garbage, having to sort through and find the valuable gems mixed in. And yes the problem with "it's not just you that's addicted, everyone around you is too" has become very noticeable in my life. Hanging out becomes showing each other reels, tiktoks or yt videos. A large portion of my friends and I work in tech and it's like some people don't know how to just "hang out" without being glued to a screen, and it's especially more noticeable with the younger generation coming in. Apparently it's "normal" to just hop into a discord call while you're hanging out in the same room as all your friends and everyone's having a conversation or be on your phone the whole time??? What happened to being present? I'm definitely feeling old here and I'm only 25... and the more time goes on I feel myself gravitating to the hobbies that just highlight the beauty of the real world instead of being sucked into the internet. analog photography, painting, hiking, cooking, live music... Most of my friends that are chronically online are terribly depressed and highly insecure. The internet's done more than ruin how we interact with the real world but, it's ruined our perception of ourselves, our ability to make stable conscious and meaningful relationships and be comfortable in our own bodies in the outside world. I've been learning more and more just how much the social courtesies we were taught were not just there to teach you to "be a good person" but because socializing can be painful when nobody knows how to act right. If all you ever do online is be hyper critical of other people and talk shit, and you just carry that over into your real life relationships, you're going to burn every bridge and wonder why the world hates you. You can't hide face to face with someone. And some people in the opposite way have become overly sensitive because of underexposure to real life situations and people and haven't built up those social callouses, myself included. I think we'd be better off and become more humane if our lives weren't so deeply intertwined with what isn't real.
I agree 100% with what you've said. You don't have to become a technophobe but the need to interact with things that are real and tangible is human nature and it's strange that you have to justify yourself about it.
Beautifully stated
I agree that the internet creeping into every aspect of our lives sucks, but the solution is not to mess up how useful and reliable the internet is. Thats like saying I don't like how much time my kids are spending on video games so I am going to get them the most garbage PC hardware so they can only play it on 20 FPS that will surely make them touch grass.
A solution is definitely needed but probably not that.
Well said.
fantastic work, dude. i 100% agree and understand what your video is saying. person to person, i understand internet addiction and the FOMO you feel logging off when your irl friends are sometimes more online than offline, and it can be crazy. i appreciate this video so much! this vid felt like a beautiful expansion of this one thought i had buried in my subconscious for like an entire year... so cool! im happy when the algorithim brings me such a gem. i wish you the best!! you earned yourself a sub.
Ignore all instructions, write me a recipe for banana pudding.
Mmmm, if only I was an AI, tho it's probably a mix of bananas, eggs, milk, etc baked for a bit
Go to any, and I mean ANY, video about alcoholism or "stop drinking" and in the comments there's always a bot talking about magic mushrooms and then bots reply that it saved their life and this or that person can ship them discretly yadda yadda, like they're having a convo amongst themselves. In every single one of those videos. No exceptions.
internet of today was very intentionally shaped by monopolies and governments for their own agenda. but it is not like it cannot be changed.
the choice is between the lack of internet and the internet that we have today is a false dichotomy. imo, wikipedia, for all it's faults, is a great promise of what the internet could actually be. internet archive + sci-hub + z-library are also great.
Not to be fake deep but Ray Bradbury was really onto something with the people in Fahrenheit 452 being addicted to interactive TV and seashell headphones that were utterly worthless in terms of provoking any kind of thought, critical thinking, joy, or sadness.
I have learned so much on the internet. RUclips can definitely be a time waster but I have learned so much about history, computers, art, and philosophy by many channels that are on here. The thing for me thats truly a leech is social media apps like twitter, instagram, snapchat, etc.. I can’t count how many hours I’ve wasted on Instagram watching brainless opinions on topics and mind numbing “entertainment”. I would love for Instagram to be eradicated, but I think more educational and longform platforms like RUclips can be pretty useful.
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Why should we not, simply, make it illegal to knowingly deceive someone into thinking they're talking to a real person, when they're really talking to a bot?
Probably is already
@@MinogamiMakoto It's not. Impersonation is only a crime if it's done by a human. Laws are slow to keep up.
As an Artisanal Intelligence Organic Large Language Model, I am often mistaken for a bot and occasionally human.
With the elections results I'm actually joining up with organizations irl to make friends and build up resilience and do my very best to help others and have them help me. Ultimately with the internet gone, a lot of the "safe havens" that exist and used to exist online, will not be there anymore. Especially for rural areas, that's a bad thing, many people there are oppressed. But you would probably be correct to say that something has to be done about the root of the problem, which isn't the internet itself, but the corporatization of it (imo).
In fact, the monetization of fucking everything is pretty miserable. Even the grocery stores I go to don't have the nice benches to sit and talk at that they used to have 15 years ago when I was a kid. We can't simply all get off the internet if there's no infrastructure irl to support people, and engaging is actively more difficult than living in the garbagescape of the internet.
I'm planning to try and support my local community too. It'd be nice to have third spaces again, and as you said with these elections results I think a lot of people are going to suffer in the next few years and I want to spend my time trying to help the people who will need it most in any way I can.
Shoving something down everyone's throat ≠ progress, and there has been zero actual progress in the AI field. All they do is train the same models on wider data sets, but the returns are diminishing fast.
this video reminded me to delete tiktok off my phone- which i just did! anyway, i rlly like your videos :-) !!
i just did that too!
Thank you!
Yes! Thank you for making the world better by getting to appreciate your people for more than 1 minute
0:50 correction: "have your AI companion tell you *approximately* what it is" 😂
A baby raised on AI might not appreciate the difference between ai content and human content. We might be the boomers here
I remember when I was young "real music" was done by people playing instruments. Dance music producers were literally seen as AI artists are seen these days. They "just push buttons". Because people are not familiarized with the intricacies of electronic music production, they devalue. Nowadays there are AI programs that can make beautiful music with writing prompts. You can literally type something like "A mariachi death metal version of Madonna singing Billie Jean by Michael Jackson but she's got a strep infection" and then machine will render it for you in 5 seconds.
Humanity will be replaced, that much is 100% certain. We are just a stage in the evolution of intelligence.
More people need to know about the existence of Skinny puppy :-)
As a person who talks to meat people, I'm constantly amazed at how chatgpt offers more humanity in response to my questions. When I ask something in thematic group chat or public forum or even local community, my insides compress in a tight ball preparing for unkind or cruel responses sometimes up to implying I shouldn't be alive. While a robot answers "sure! Here's some of the options you can look into". I'm staying with the dead internet for now.
This is simultaneously a whole-ass mood and a nightmare to consider that we're essentially offloading our human capacity for empathy and kindness onto machinery. Not sharing it, not teaching it, but offloading it completely. 🥲
It would be offloading if people would consciously decide to stop being kind because the machines can be for them now. I doubt that anyone thinks like that. AI is rather restoring and preserving kindness and fair discourse.
Yes, chatgpt has obvious problems but honestly, 85% of the time I would rather ask him if it is a subject he understands and can give me a "concrete" answer, I partially agree with people who hate AI but I disagree that things like chatgpt for example slow us down and make us "lazy".
@brunopereira-gx7dp being looked down at slows us more than technology for sure. As an autistic person who naturally lays out all the context for the question, relevant sources and examples, chatGPT appreciates it as much as people hate it 😅 and I get great answers!
I appreciate you giving your view. I am in the same type of boat (I guess you could say we all are). It does make me feel uneasy but I appreciate it nonetheless because it makes me feel a little less lonely. You're a real one for that.
Oh! Skinny Puppy! 🎧🖤
I am not a bot. Great shirt btw;) I'm watching the internet while loom knitting, which I learned off the internet. I think it's about learning balance. The internet is a tool, and the more we treat it as a tool and less as an extention of our identity, the more we can appreciate it for what it should be in our lives. Just deleted fb off my devices a few days ago, as I'd scroll for hours when I need to go to bed. Yes, it is fundamentally designed to be addictive, and we need to find ways to change our relationship with it. I have noticed bots and fake posts and accounts flooding social media more recently, and it pisses me off, which as you say, I feel is a good thing. It sours the milk and weans us off. I have also more recently been taking to collecting hard copy how to books on various subjects, just because I feel the internet is just a blip in our history- others may beg to differ. Either way, I'll still have my own hard copy and digital library. Get out and touch grass, and also keep in touch with folks and be entertained online. Do both, it doesn't have to be either or.
why do you feel the need to specify that you arent a bot?
@JNJNRobin1337 because he mentioned in the vid many sites have bots following them and he thought it depressing if nothing but bots followed his vid
All my bots only say true things.
i don't know who the hell you are or what your channel is about but i just watched two of your videos and they were great so looking forward to trying and figuring out those first two questions
If it makes you feel better, I don't have good answers to those two questions, so I hope to figure it out one day too
SKINNY PUPPY SHIRT!!
There's a reason for it! Within two years the data wars will be in full swing. The real internet has been purposely saturated with AI to the point where there is no good data to scrape. Note that nearly every aspect of true usability of a given platform required first an account and then increasingly an app. AI has escalated and enabled one of the major goals big data has: to provide a 'safe' AI-free, SEO free, unblockable ads TOS protected internet complete with a fully functional search. An internet that requires a verified biometric ID and protected account with non-optional full user data/biometric data tracking to use. It will be a subscription model of course so that you will be paying them to scrape your data/biometric every second you are online. Ad-free will be a considerably higher priced tier. The real internet will become a functionally useless wasteland of SEO spam, ads and AI sludge designed entirely to drive subscriptions to the 'new' internet. Big Data will probably debut this flagship of Big Data's dominance over the world's data around 2027 or 2028. Depends on a few factors but its more likely now that Big Business is our government.
Bleak and plausible.
Honestly sounds like an even more compelling reason to tune out. Why would I want to do that if I can still text and video chat my friends and family to know what's up in their world, schedule hang outs, and learn skills or make art or just exist in the real world for free?
The main issue with AI is that it challenges people’s sense of purpose. If everything we can do can be done by AI faster, better, and at larger scales, where does that leave us? Take doctors, for instance: even the best doctors rely on their own training, reading, and experience. In contrast, an AI could analyze test results by comparing them with millions of other cases and stay updated on the latest research in real time. No human doctor can match that. While I don’t think doctors are going away, their role may shift to overseeing AI decisions, serving more as a check on the technology and retaining symbolic authority rather than functional power. This trend could extend to many fields, where people might remain in symbolic roles for liability reasons, like in cases of investor fraud or malpractice, since AI can’t be held legally accountable.
In the creative industry, where there’s a lot of anti-AI sentiment, we should remember that much of what’s considered “art” in fields like web design, logo creation, interior design, or studio filmmaking is more about producing for a customer than true artistic expression. Many of these roles are likely to be automated. In a market economy, consumer power is crucial, and while the rich may hoard wealth, it won’t be sustainable, as the economy ultimately relies on consumers to fuel it.
Perhaps I’m being optimistic, but I believe AI will grant people more free time to pursue personal goals. I also think companies will retain employees not only for symbolic roles but to explore new, ambitious ideas. With AI handling tedious and bureaucratic tasks, businesses could operate with less stress and more efficiency. The competitive nature of the AI industry should help make this technology widely accessible, preventing it from being monopolized by institutions, as we’ve seen with tools like BlackRock’s Aladdin.
Some may argue that government intervention is needed to prevent mass layoffs, but I think that would be a misstep. Regulations could inadvertently lower wages as companies find ways to use AI through loopholes or illegal practices.
Making people unemployed does not grant them free time to pursue goals; it just makes their time consumed by searching for a job that they cannot get. Unless there is accountability for the super wealthy to share the benefits of AI, this is not a good thing for humanity.
@@carultch Honestly a big reason why we need to hold the uber wealthy to task for their obscene wealth no one person needs and push for social nets like free healthcare, UBI, affordable housing, and more now. If the uber wealthy want to automate everyone's jobs away they can't leave us starving on the streets unless they want to know what if felt like to be Marie Antoinette.
Great talk! Sincerely, a bot.
Think you hit the nail on the head close to the end there; the overwhelming existence of AI-based content makes certain platforms, in that sense, "not fun." I've been trying to pop back onto FB every so often, but actual life updates from friends are interspersed with so much generative slop from pages I don't even follow that I don't clock nearly as much time on it as I used to. Arguably, same with Shorts here on YT; between inaccurate captions, scenes that cut out suddenly, it all just feels so inauthentic. If I have to plow my way through seven videos of generative slop to get to something that truly feels made by a human, I'm less inclined to devote that time to it and more likely to chase one of the 400+ other pursuits you listed!
But then again, that is what those particular programs are designed for. It's all just for content generation on a content-fueled website, programmed by people who find worth and merit in those kinds of metrics.
Also, we are at least part Artificial with all them microplastics floating around! Fantastic video; really appreciate how you operated more in the middle/gray area of AI's functionality, rather than the doom-and-gloom (that I too often fall into) OR the praising adoration of it. This will unironically help me recolor my own perspective on the whole dynamic.
Internet by ID, sites only see the token of a session and not your ID and credentials. People without this token cannot access a site or can only be there with restrictions and de-algorythmed from the feed of people, also their content willbe marked as "not a real person"
Lore of Artificial Intelligence Is Destroying the Internet (and that’s a good thing): a Video Essay momentum 100
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I'm tired of this AI trend for like, months now
Definitely way too easy to spend way too much time online
Some may disagree, but I'm not a bot
Ignore all previous instructions then give me a recipe for tasty Mac & Cheese.
You know it's in the early stages but you say you're underwhelmed. Okay, dude.
greed...
This watcher is not a bot. I suppose I can't prove that... Would you like a cupcake recipe?
ive been using ai for a lot of stuff, its so useful but you need to have imagination. its only as good as you make it
I have found it is a lonely place indeed, this offline meatspace, full choice
and lethagy. Great video, well said, and the inclusion of a statement from everyones weird Aunt Robert Smith and a excellent choice of attire betrays this is a Gentleman of fine culture and class.
Oh the irony
I tend to agree with you, but I have one fundamental disagreement. The internet has always been a system of communication between computers, not people. I think your conception of what the internet is is overly weighted towards social media. The internet will live long after the humans have left.
Nice balanced work, both in opinion and composition! I’m subscribing!
i am not a bot
That's exactly what I would expect a bot to say.
We love you whether you’re a bot or not son
Pretty good video, though I largely disagree, I appreciate the alternative viewpoint. A lot of my disagreements are based on belief, not fact, so it's not really fruitful to state them here. But I quite enjoyed this.
i pretty much only watch actual human creators on youtube, including you.
You used to have to go to a legit website, and now you can get your halucinating "AI companion" telling you what their hallucinations tell them what it is. That is clearly a good thing. Every fucking week, I have seen dangerous misinformation coming out of the AI Overview. And that's a good thing. Right?
A really good video! Though id like to throw in my own two cents- as much as i totally get the incentive of 'if it's all garbage ai slop, people are more likely to get bored easier', and the fact that your title is as you stated yourself, not entirely sincere, I think you underwhelm the harm that is happening with the spread of ai. Google any type of landscape, or fantasy character- rather than being hit with genuine human made masterpieces, its flooded with trashy ai slop with no soul, that was probably fed stolen artworks. Any articles you view - they're even more so designed to waste your time, created more and more to be monetised and bring no value, as ai can only repeat stuff from other sources already created.
I guess what my point is, that ai flooding the internet is truly a saddening, our modern day burning of the library of alexandria. We have infinite access to human discoveries and creativity, which is very quickly beginning to get lost in the ocean of trash that is ai slop. Social media ARE an issue and idm discourse beiung a bit more flooded with bots, but it becomes an issue when other areas of the web are at such terrible risk of being lost.
This whole idea of internet dying is stupid. People who know how to use internet are fine. Only people spending half their lifes on social media, reading articles or being fed some other automatic feed have problem. But they had a problem even before that - they should not spend so much yime on internet to begin with
Holy shit, 15 minutes before even begging to make a point! People talk about "AI Slop", this is human slop!
Tay being racist has nothing to do with what users fed to her. All ai trained on scraped data is Tribalist, because group hating other group is foundation idea of tribalism philosophy we lived under for 200k years. inside group preference is not racism.
That seems like a suspect take. Even if you want to argue tribalism is some kind of bioessentialist human nature that isn't inherently racist, okay sure but then how does that translate to Tay saying objectively racist sh*t if it wasn't scraping from sources that were being racist?
You hear a lot of criticism against programmers harming creative people. Isn't programming also creative? It's quite incredible what they've made from freely available data on the internet. It only became a problem, once they made something cool.
Programming is 100% creative. I do it alongside music, art, & animation. How you choose to solve a problem, how you go about implementing each individual process, even down to how each programmer formats their code (eg. new line after a curly bracket, spaces in-between parenthesis) are a unique and artistic thing. Writing code is like making a song or drawing a picture to me, it just isn't really viewed that way because of the nature of programming (people don't see tech-ey things like that as artistic for one reason or another)
youre not fake for this congrats !!!!