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Braid with a Fluorocarbon leader works great. The braid and fluoro combo have little stretch and are durable. The practical invisibility of the leader is a great plus too.
I switched to fluorocarbon this year, best decision ever. For bigger game I use 10 lb main and a 4 lbs leader of the same line. And strictly 4 lbs only for smaller streams
SUGGESTION: I can see that you prefer to fish with the rod in your right hand... Why not put the handle on the left-side of the reel; so that you don't have to keep switching hands. 👍
Different lines are just different Tools in your toolbox. I don't have a favorite wrench. I don't have a favorite rod, reel,line, lure or fly. I choose the right one to get the job done given the water, fish and other conditions. Cool video though.
I been fishing since I was five years old I am 65 now and always used mono all my life with no problems I use test for whatever I fish for four pound for trout eight and above for
You can use straight braid for trout fishing fast water, but not slow water where natural presentation and line visibility really come into play. Would love to share some pics of the browns and rainbows I’ve hooked using straight braid in fast clear water 😊 That said you’re totally right and my next trout rig will be spooled with mono or flouro.
I just caught a steelhead last week while testing a walleye lure happened on its first cast too & I'm using 15lbs Spiderwire ultra cast braid. I had 8" steel leader on the thing too. It was clear & dead calm on laker Erie where I was fishing.
I use ten pound spider braid with six pound seven foot spider fluoro bumper for fishing lures and pretty much same set up for bait fishing except for I take the braid all the way to the swivel then as much mono as needed to get the bait off the bottom I like the sensitivity of braid
I would have liked to see the same strength on the lines to be able to really get the best of all ,I don't feel like is fair to make the braided line lost its advantages
I use braid for everything. You can't beat that high poundage line with thin diameter. That being said I use it just as my main line and I always use a mono or flouro leader. When I'm trout fishing and catfishing. Works best that way to me. Catfish don't care though like trout do. I have caught trout on braid but it's a challenge.
ive done a lot of fishing and tried to get tricky over the years... however the crap line on the cheapest rod and reel always seems to be the most reliable and effective.... unless you're trying to catch spooky, native, wild, stream/river trout/steelhead your line doesn't really matter.
I just got a Lew's Xfinity combo yellow and silver medium light and I have to get us to the rod is stiff more than I'm us to. Is been a good combo for trout fishing 🎣 I've had problems with trout magnet hooks just braking at the Rong times
The line may or may not be better with either. I use high vis braid with a mono or fluoro leader, and have not determined which is best for catching. I have noticed the difference of catching with the presentation of the bait. I started trying a copolymer with fluorocarbon coated mono line as a leader. That line seems to not have as much memory, and catches just as many fish, and cost is between the other two. Try, try and try... Thanks for video.
Great video, though I have to disagree with the findings. I've been using Spiderwire Camo braid and Stealth braid (6 lb) for the past 10 years, for trout fishing, without using a leader. It's the only line I use and I don't have any issues catching fish at all. I use it in more shallow creeks and the deeper Cumberland river here in KY, and it's successful it both. There are certain situations where one type of line might be better than the other, depending on the water conditions, but they all work great. In this situation, you look to be fishing in clear, shallow water with no vegetation, with 20lb, dark green braided line, so it might not be ideal in this case. Too many variables in this test without enough constants, though I did really enjoy the video. Love all of your vids, I just subbed. :)
Hey Ken. Good tips. I use 6# mono for my trout from 5" brooks to 26" browns on a 5 6 lightning rod. Best overall combo. Up here in Wisconsin our braided line freezes and is useless for about 6 months.
Not sure why anyone would go braid to the hook. Braid to floro leader yes. Small stream no need to cast for distance. Straight floro would be just fine.
Sometimes it's not yer " Line " but yer " Bait " as you know trout can be very picky ! You could try " "Berkley NanoFil " @ only 0.005 dia. ( 6 # ) test . As a main line even ! I wouldn't tho, I still use Mono ( Berkley XL 8# ) with no problems. That's why they call it " Fishing " not catching.! Ya know. Still you did show a difference in lines. Thank You , good video mate. Tom Daytona Beach, FL .
I used to use stren mono for trout and it did decent. A couple years ago I tried fluorocarbon, in particular 6 pound Seaguar Invizix and haven’t looked back since. Catch alot more trout even on days when they are more finicky, the presentation and clarity is far superior to mono. Now I just use straight up fluorocarbon line, would I be better off using a main line with a fluro leader? Curious your thoughts on leader or not for trout since I’ve never used a leader for it.
Have caught 2 rainbows on 20lb braid using a 3.5" swimbait with a 2/0 hook while targeting bass. It can be done, its just not going to happen often. First one had to have just been stocked, I have no idea how it even got the hook. Second one was steel head sized. That said now days I use Seaguar floro on everything but my catfish rod.
give it a shot... i have been, however i find that it SUCKS at holding my improved clinch and UNI knots..... it also breaks quick with a snag.... I actually hate the stuff since I've started running it... I've been using 6, 10, and now 4# tests..... It has nice qualities, but it doesn't hold my knots.... Mono is better... BUT DONT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT! try it out
Just started kinda getting into fishing for starters just got the Blackhawk 2 with zeppco reel and bought 15lb mono we get pretty big bull trouts and pikes in Alberta old man river but plan on buying good reel soon but needa know my best line
I believe it depends on what your trying to do when fishing. All line pretty much will work. I use fluro and mono myself for trout but I usually use 2lb test unless I'm steelhead fishing then I use 6lb
2lb for trout????? U must have some very small trout lol.. here in idaho I'm using 6LB for trout because you can hook up A really big 16inch trout and A 2lb won't hold it at all... I'm even planning to get some 8LB pure fluorocarbon
@@fbiagent3399 i catch average 15-17 inch trout in West Virginia been fishing my whole life if you have the drag set right you wld be surprised how big of fish you can land on 2lb test. Its not cheap line either i get the top brands. If i fishing a area where there are bruters in the lake of stream i use 4lb or 6lb. 3 years ago i caught a 26.3inch rainbow and it weighed 7.6lbs i was able to get in it with stren high vis low memory 2lb test it was put the the limit for sure took about 10mins to get the big girl in.
@@C-Smith-87 yah I use P-line but it's only florescent.. Now I'm hearing about fluorocarbon and so Im looking at getting some... I was never serious about fishing till like 2 months ago and haven't purchased A decent setup yet so I'm working with what I got but yah I need to mess around with drag more
@@fbiagent3399 yeah fishing has to be what im most passionate about as far as hobbies and pass times go. The reason for using 2lb test for trout mainly is for har much farther i can cast a spinner or jig etc. Than i can with stronger line. Also i have noticed that i get more strikes so i catch more using the smaller diameter line especially at places where the trout are pressured a lot more.
Now I haven’t been lure fishing very long and I fish for pike , perch and chub using my braids and fluro leader …. Then last year I used the same set up to try for trout when the season for coarse fish closed ,… I did catch some trout but was very frustrating …. So now after watching this video I’m going to get myself some fluorocarbon line and see if that helps …… so what pound line should I use ??? Would say 6lb be ok ??? Great video and hopefully someone can help with my query 🎣😁👍
The key with Fluro is the knot. It’s not brittle and is actually very abrasion resistant. When tying with fluro you have to make sure to tie a very good knot and moisturize the line before finishing the knot. I don’t have anything against mono it has its uses but for me personally since switching to fluro I have never looked back. I do make sure to double check my knot I just tied however before beginning to fish. If it’s not a solid knot it can break very easy.
I've caught some very skittish trout on 20lb braid in clear water with no problems even when people are using mono an fluro around around me I tend to find if it's a moving lure the trout dont mind if it's a a bait like a worm then your probably better off with mono or fluro but if u dont have any other line u can still catch trout on braid my PB on braid was a 7lb wild brown trout hope this comment helps a new or experienced angler out 👍 tight lines
mono has treated me well for 20 years, fluoro has performed poorly with bad knot-strength for a year... Im going to give light braid a try soon on my surf/catfish rod
I’m not one to ask , but where are you filming these videos? It’s a beautiful stretch of water. I’m in the Virginia Beach area of Virginia and we have a couple of stocked ponds available
I caught an 8lb. Rainbow on 10lb. Berkley big game that I caught on the lake bottom. I ran out of flouro one day so used the big game that I had saved. So it depends how the fish feel. I'll fish down to 7.8lb. but for the big ones lesser lb. test while trolling leads to broken leaders The hook is supposed to stick to your nail. The way I sharpen hooks they go right through my thumbnail. That's how I get the monsters. Simple huh
As I do understand what you were trying to show us . veterans know not to go directly to a lure with braid in clear water, this may confuse beginner anglers and they should do more research... braid is amazing for sensitivity for finicky trout but with a 6-8 ft fluorocarbon leader i will catch what most can not, and yes fluorocarbon works great since I've been using it since the 70's and always catch trout and other species.... No right or wrong but for the advanced fisherman braid has an advantage...
I think people that use braid think they can’t land a 20lb brown on 8lb test. You should see some saltwater records, giant fish caught on small pound test. It’s all about having your drag set right.
If you're looking to float your lure or get a better float on dough bait you can. Just be sure to check your leader knot well as fluro & mono sometimes slips
tried stren 6lb mono on my diawa RG2500H-AB on a 7 ft. GX2 and kept getting line twist/wind knots . switched to trilene XL 4 lb. and not happened as bad , yet .... . a small swivel with a 3 ft leader hasn't helped much either . i did keep steady tension when spooling both times . thinking about trying braid with a flouro leader if that will greatly reduce my twist and knot problem . thoughts ??? thanks and take care from tazewell .
Yes I agree. Braid to a leader is a solid way to reduce line twist. While spooling it helps to flip the spool back and forth from clockwise to counterclockwise every 15-20 handle rotations. This will reverse the twisting that takes place during this step. However a few retrieves with a spinning or flipping bait and the twists will return. Good luck & tight lines!
@@NRVOutdoors a few years down the road and i's settled on berkley x9 braid in 6 and 15 pound on my spinning/UL setups with stren 6 , 12 and 17 pound mono leaders and i'm VERY satisified with my results . i use PP on my heavier setups with heavier stren leaders . BTW . i like the Jordan Lee flame green color . keep on keeping on NRV , jeff
Mono was invented in 1939 and was the ONLY line used until Flouro became popular around 2000 when the newer versions became more fishable. So it obviously worked just fine for 60 years. Then braid came on the scene. I now fish nothing but braid. I use Ohero Advanced Braid in10 lb. test in the light green color. It has a line diameter of .012 which in equivalent to ONE lb. mono. I have 20-20 vision as does my wife and it is invisible to both of us in our swimming pool. Maybe if you did this comparison with a line test weight that any serious trout angler would use , your results would be much more accurate and believable Ask an experienced dry fly fisherman how many drifts they have to make at times to get a trout to take a dry fly, it could 30-40. All this stupid test proved is what all fisherman know, on any given day, trout which can be notoriously hard to catch are just that. Regardless of what what lure or line you use.
Doesn't this place stock their section of the river almost daily? I don't see this place being a good test for different lines, lures or anything. Get back to the creeks around Roanoke where it's tough and do some real tests. Just my opinion.
I used 8 to 10 pound mono for years and always managed to catch a limit of stocked trout...AS LONG AS it was within a couple days of them being stocked. The longer they were in the stream, the more "street wise" they became and often I could see fish in pools but not be able to catch them. I had also never hooked one of the big fish...the 8+ pound class, 26+ inch fish. I went down to 2 and 4# test and it was like flipping a switch. Suddenly I could fish those "fished out" holes and pull a limit out of them, and in less than a month, I have caught 2 rainbows over 8 lbs in the most heavily fished river in Tennessee. Previously in 30 years, I had never had a single one. Line diameter does matter...whether mono, or fluro. I think the strength of braid is by using it as a main line with a fluro leader. I find fluro to suck when spooled directly onto a spinning reel. Way too much memory. But used as a leader it does really well. I can now come up on those holes where I can see fish, and catch some of them if they haven't been spooked. My brother inlaw and I are planning a trip up to your area for some of those big rainbows. People think stocked pay streams are easy picking...but the fish in them get educated extremely fast when bombarded with lures/baits all day every day.
Fluorocarbon is the worse possible for the stream. It never breaks down. It has obvious advantages, but every time you break it off you’re leaving it in the water for good.
why are you using 20lb. braid? the advantage of braid is that you can achieve the same lbs. test with less diameter. try 8lb. braid against 8lb. mono and see what happens.
I always wonder how in the heck we ever caught fish without fluorocarbon line! And how in the heck can there be cattle in that stream? That's illegal, unethical and kills the environment! Or maybe you just dont live in NY state.
@@JackFalcon871 lots of sarcasm there bro. I grew up in the country fishing in creeks and ponds in cow pastures. Now, you let a cow get within a hundred yards of a body of water and the environmentalists freak the hell out. Seriously though, how did we ever catch fish before we had fluorocarbon line?
*Bought a 500 for an ultralight rod. It's very smooth **enjoyable.fishing** recommend casts great. One odd thing- the bale wire is a bit heavy diameter in my opinion for a reel of this size. But a great purchase.*
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I always use braid as my main line and a Berkley vanish as my leader.
Been using vanish as leader since I was a youngin
Braid with a Fluorocarbon leader works great. The braid and fluoro combo have little stretch and are durable. The practical invisibility of the leader is a great plus too.
Me too, actually.
Try seaguar red label its cheap too
What weight on each?
I love love daiwa samuarai fluro for my main line for trout spinning lures or jigs. Sinks and doesn’t stretch as much as mono. Invisible too
I switched to fluorocarbon this year, best decision ever. For bigger game I use 10 lb main and a 4 lbs leader of the same line. And strictly 4 lbs only for smaller streams
Thank you for explaining the difference in lines, great video.
SUGGESTION: I can see that you prefer to fish with the rod in your right hand... Why not put the handle on the left-side of the reel; so that you don't have to keep switching hands. 👍
I have the same issue ....Tried several times to switch the handle but doesn't feel comfortable at all
Was thinkin this the entire video. Must have learned to fish on a bait caster or something
I've always fished right-casting, left reeling. It's how my dad taught me, and how his dad taught him. 🤷♂️
@@beaujohnson2021actually that’s not how he was taught.
@@ryanangel2090he learned in a spin cast rod when he was young like I did. I fish the exact same way.
Different lines are just different Tools in your toolbox. I don't have a favorite wrench. I don't have a favorite rod, reel,line, lure or fly. I choose the right one to get the job done given the water, fish and other conditions. Cool video though.
Thanks for the video, gave me some good insight on what I’ve been doing wrong, answered a lot of questions for a noob like me
I pretty much exclusively use braid. I catch a lot of fish with it and I primarily fish rainbow and bull trout
I been fishing since I was five years old I am 65 now and always used mono all my life with no problems I use test for whatever I fish for four pound for trout eight and above for
10 pound green braid and 4 pound mono has always worked for me
That's exactly what I'm workin
You can use straight braid for trout fishing fast water, but not slow water where natural presentation and line visibility really come into play. Would love to share some pics of the browns and rainbows I’ve hooked using straight braid in fast clear water 😊 That said you’re totally right and my next trout rig will be spooled with mono or flouro.
I just caught a steelhead last week while testing a walleye lure happened on its first cast too & I'm using 15lbs Spiderwire ultra cast braid. I had 8" steel leader on the thing too. It was clear & dead calm on laker Erie where I was fishing.
I use ten pound spider braid with six pound seven foot spider fluoro bumper for fishing lures and pretty much same set up for bait fishing except for I take the braid all the way to the swivel then as much mono as needed to get the bait off the bottom I like the sensitivity of braid
I use 4-6lbs mono caught many trouts with it no issues.
Would you recommend mono for ultralight. I have a 6 lb line. Or should I upgrade
I would have liked to see the same strength on the lines to be able to really get the best of all ,I don't feel like is fair to make the braided line lost its advantages
I like mono, used it since 2002 and it never let me down lol
Tazewell Va. here . thanks for sharing your results
Great video, thanks.
Thanks for this useful education
I use braid for everything. You can't beat that high poundage line with thin diameter. That being said I use it just as my main line and I always use a mono or flouro leader. When I'm trout fishing and catfishing. Works best that way to me. Catfish don't care though like trout do. I have caught trout on braid but it's a challenge.
Anyone use the cheap eagle claw 6lb fishing line. Used it for years catching lots of trout.
ive done a lot of fishing and tried to get tricky over the years... however the crap line on the cheapest rod and reel always seems to be the most reliable and effective.... unless you're trying to catch spooky, native, wild, stream/river trout/steelhead your line doesn't really matter.
Right on
I just got a Lew's Xfinity combo yellow and silver medium light and I have to get us to the rod is stiff more than I'm us to. Is been a good combo for trout fishing 🎣 I've had problems with trout magnet hooks just braking at the Rong times
The line may or may not be better with either. I use high vis braid with a mono or fluoro leader, and have not determined which is best for catching. I have noticed the difference of catching with the presentation of the bait. I started trying a copolymer with fluorocarbon coated mono line as a leader. That line seems to not have as much memory, and catches just as many fish, and cost is between the other two. Try, try and try... Thanks for video.
Kastking 6lbs flourkate with just one knot. Replace 3 times a year. Great casting and no problem catching fish.
Great video, though I have to disagree with the findings. I've been using Spiderwire Camo braid and Stealth braid (6 lb) for the past 10 years, for trout fishing, without using a leader. It's the only line I use and I don't have any issues catching fish at all. I use it in more shallow creeks and the deeper Cumberland river here in KY, and it's successful it both. There are certain situations where one type of line might be better than the other, depending on the water conditions, but they all work great. In this situation, you look to be fishing in clear, shallow water with no vegetation, with 20lb, dark green braided line, so it might not be ideal in this case. Too many variables in this test without enough constants, though I did really enjoy the video. Love all of your vids, I just subbed. :)
Hey Ken. Good tips. I use 6# mono for my trout from 5" brooks to 26" browns on a 5 6 lightning rod. Best overall combo. Up here in Wisconsin our braided line freezes and is useless for about 6 months.
Had a great time meeting you the other day and fishing with you!
I tie a 8ft flrocarben leader to the end of my braid kind of like you do in fly fishing to see less braid
6' flourocarbon leader on any line workes much better for me, on anything but cats. Good video.
i just got braid with flourocarbon leader
Not sure why anyone would go braid to the hook. Braid to floro leader yes. Small stream no need to cast for distance. Straight floro would be just fine.
After watching this I was about to say the same thing as you have
Ill just throw on a floro leader for trout then
I catch so many crappie and panfish on the pink trout magnet (bubblegum) and green and yellow bottom 1inch curlytail grub
I want to try that trout magnet sos monofilament fishing line. A lot of people say its great. I also going to buy those lunkerhunt may bugs too.
Sometimes it's not yer " Line " but yer " Bait " as you know trout can be very picky ! You could try " "Berkley NanoFil " @ only 0.005 dia. ( 6 # ) test . As a main line even ! I wouldn't tho, I still use Mono ( Berkley XL 8# ) with no problems. That's why they call it " Fishing " not catching.! Ya know. Still you did show a difference in lines. Thank You , good video mate. Tom Daytona Beach, FL .
I used to use stren mono for trout and it did decent. A couple years ago I tried fluorocarbon, in particular 6 pound Seaguar Invizix and haven’t looked back since. Catch alot more trout even on days when they are more finicky, the presentation and clarity is far superior to mono. Now I just use straight up fluorocarbon line, would I be better off using a main line with a fluro leader? Curious your thoughts on leader or not for trout since I’ve never used a leader for it.
Great video
Have caught 2 rainbows on 20lb braid using a 3.5" swimbait with a 2/0 hook while targeting bass. It can be done, its just not going to happen often. First one had to have just been stocked, I have no idea how it even got the hook. Second one was steel head sized. That said now days I use Seaguar floro on everything but my catfish rod.
Think I may go out and pick up Some Floro
give it a shot... i have been, however i find that it SUCKS at holding my improved clinch and UNI knots..... it also breaks quick with a snag.... I actually hate the stuff since I've started running it... I've been using 6, 10, and now 4# tests..... It has nice qualities, but it doesn't hold my knots.... Mono is better... BUT DONT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT!
try it out
Good video thanks😀
Just started kinda getting into fishing for starters just got the Blackhawk 2 with zeppco reel and bought 15lb mono we get pretty big bull trouts and pikes in Alberta old man river but plan on buying good reel soon but needa know my best line
I believe it depends on what your trying to do when fishing. All line pretty much will work. I use fluro and mono myself for trout but I usually use 2lb test unless I'm steelhead fishing then I use 6lb
2lb for trout????? U must have some very small trout lol.. here in idaho I'm using 6LB for trout because you can hook up A really big 16inch trout and A 2lb won't hold it at all... I'm even planning to get some 8LB pure fluorocarbon
@@fbiagent3399 i catch average 15-17 inch trout in West Virginia been fishing my whole life if you have the drag set right you wld be surprised how big of fish you can land on 2lb test. Its not cheap line either i get the top brands. If i fishing a area where there are bruters in the lake of stream i use 4lb or 6lb. 3 years ago i caught a 26.3inch rainbow and it weighed 7.6lbs i was able to get in it with stren high vis low memory 2lb test it was put the the limit for sure took about 10mins to get the big girl in.
@@C-Smith-87 yah I use P-line but it's only florescent.. Now I'm hearing about fluorocarbon and so Im looking at getting some... I was never serious about fishing till like 2 months ago and haven't purchased A decent setup yet so I'm working with what I got but yah I need to mess around with drag more
@@fbiagent3399 yeah fishing has to be what im most passionate about as far as hobbies and pass times go. The reason for using 2lb test for trout mainly is for har much farther i can cast a spinner or jig etc. Than i can with stronger line. Also i have noticed that i get more strikes so i catch more using the smaller diameter line especially at places where the trout are pressured a lot more.
@@C-Smith-87 ahhh I fish at stocked lakes here in idaho.. And casting isn't A problem at all.. and even with 6lb I get about 12/15 trout in 3/4h
What about the Trout SOS copolymer line sold in kits with Trout Magnet? How does it stack up against flourocarbon?
I personally don't care for it
I've been fishing since before fluorocarbon was a thing. We still caught plenty of fish.
And people got to work with a horse and buggy just fine, but a car is far more efficient.
@@billsikes4007 Didn't say I don't use fluorocarbon.
Now I haven’t been lure fishing very long and I fish for pike , perch and chub using my braids and fluro leader …. Then last year I used the same set up to try for trout when the season for coarse fish closed ,… I did catch some trout but was very frustrating …. So now after watching this video I’m going to get myself some fluorocarbon line and see if that helps …… so what pound line should I use ??? Would say 6lb be ok ??? Great video and hopefully someone can help with my query 🎣😁👍
6lb will work great
@@NRVOutdoors thanx so much for the info buddy 👍😁🎣
I’m just not a fan of fluro. It’s so brittle and breaks easier than mono.
That it does
The key with Fluro is the knot. It’s not brittle and is actually very abrasion resistant. When tying with fluro you have to make sure to tie a very good knot and moisturize the line before finishing the knot. I don’t have anything against mono it has its uses but for me personally since switching to fluro I have never looked back. I do make sure to double check my knot I just tied however before beginning to fish. If it’s not a solid knot it can break very easy.
I've caught some very skittish trout on 20lb braid in clear water with no problems even when people are using mono an fluro around around me I tend to find if it's a moving lure the trout dont mind if it's a a bait like a worm then your probably better off with mono or fluro but if u dont have any other line u can still catch trout on braid my PB on braid was a 7lb wild brown trout hope this comment helps a new or experienced angler out 👍 tight lines
mono has treated me well for 20 years, fluoro has performed poorly with bad knot-strength for a year... Im going to give light braid a try soon on my surf/catfish rod
@@fredflintstone1547 when fishing fluro you have to use different knots and tie more because it’s smaller. Dia
All I use is braided line trout fishing. I do very well with a bright rooster tail
Just a quick question. After the rooster tail hits the water do you start reeling immediately or do you wait awhile, maybe let it hit bottom?
Nope it doesn’t cause I’ve only been catching all my trout on my rod with 12lb mono 🤷🏼♂️
You found no difference at all? What about the leader?
Catch plenty of fish with braid to a floro bumper.
I’m not one to ask , but where are you filming these videos? It’s a beautiful stretch of water. I’m in the Virginia Beach area of Virginia and we have a couple of stocked ponds available
Blue springs! You gotta head to sw Va and check it out!
I like your info bro
I caught an 8lb. Rainbow on 10lb. Berkley big game that I caught on the lake bottom. I ran out of flouro one day so used the big game that I had saved. So it depends how the fish feel. I'll fish down to 7.8lb. but for the big ones lesser lb. test while trolling leads to broken leaders The hook is supposed to stick to your nail. The way I sharpen hooks they go right through my thumbnail. That's how I get the monsters. Simple huh
As I do understand what you were trying to show us . veterans know not to go directly to a lure with braid in clear water, this may confuse beginner anglers and they should do more research... braid is amazing for sensitivity for finicky trout but with a 6-8 ft fluorocarbon leader i will catch what most can not, and yes fluorocarbon works great since I've been using it since the 70's and always catch trout and other species.... No right or wrong but for the advanced fisherman braid has an advantage...
Agreed!
I think people that use braid think they can’t land a 20lb brown on 8lb test. You should see some saltwater records, giant fish caught on small pound test. It’s all about having your drag set right.
I use coplomer p line fluroclear the memory is awesome 👍
The p line is invisible underwater
What about braid with a fluro Leader?
i use SOS line
What net is that?
I’m also bias towards floural carbon 😂
Pline fluoroclear, 10lb our fish are 10 to 17lb trout with logs, rocks in rivers
I usually use 8-10 pound fluorocarbon. 6 pound frays too easily.
So can you do a fluro main line with a mono leader ?
If you're looking to float your lure or get a better float on dough bait you can. Just be sure to check your leader knot well as fluro & mono sometimes slips
so, is it monofilament the winner?
tried stren 6lb mono on my diawa RG2500H-AB on a 7 ft. GX2 and kept getting line twist/wind knots . switched to trilene XL 4 lb. and not happened as bad , yet .... . a small swivel with a 3 ft leader hasn't helped much either . i did keep steady tension when spooling both times . thinking about trying braid with a flouro leader if that will greatly reduce my twist and knot problem . thoughts ??? thanks and take care from tazewell .
Yes I agree. Braid to a leader is a solid way to reduce line twist. While spooling it helps to flip the spool back and forth from clockwise to counterclockwise every 15-20 handle rotations. This will reverse the twisting that takes place during this step. However a few retrieves with a spinning or flipping bait and the twists will return. Good luck & tight lines!
@@NRVOutdoors a few years down the road and i's settled on berkley x9 braid in 6 and 15 pound on my spinning/UL setups with stren 6 , 12 and 17 pound mono leaders and i'm VERY satisified with my results . i use PP on my heavier setups with heavier stren leaders . BTW . i like the Jordan Lee flame green color . keep on keeping on NRV , jeff
Mono was invented in 1939 and was the ONLY line used until Flouro became popular around 2000 when the newer versions became more fishable. So it obviously worked just fine for 60 years. Then braid came on the scene. I now fish nothing but braid. I use Ohero Advanced Braid in10 lb. test in the light green color. It has a line diameter of .012 which in equivalent to ONE lb. mono. I have 20-20 vision as does my wife and it is invisible to both of us in our swimming pool. Maybe if you did this comparison with a line test weight that any serious trout angler would use , your results would be much more accurate and believable Ask an experienced dry fly fisherman how many drifts they have to make at times to get a trout to take a dry fly, it could 30-40. All this stupid test proved is what all fisherman know, on any given day, trout which can be notoriously hard to catch are just that. Regardless of what what lure or line you use.
was this a creek or a river?
They love poles
Spider wire flouro sucks
Got that right
You miss the point my guy ... the fact you can use braid line 10lb at a fraction of the diameter of other 10lb lines
Put the braid on for this spot to fish.
2lb izorline, never fails for me tbh
Izorline is my line of choice on my trout rods, love the smoke color best. I use 4lb vanish as a leader for carolina rigs and such
Use braid then have a leader
What brand of fluorocarbon do you use?
Berkley Vanish
Why are you using 8lb line you should drop to 4-6 when using monofilament.
In short the answer is a resounding yes. Just not braid
Me watching this knowing i use 25 pound braid on my trout/medium rod....
Ok tbh i realize that i fish for 7-20 pound rainbows so i wouldnt want to use 6 pound line
Doesn't this place stock their section of the river almost daily? I don't see this place being a good test for different lines, lures or anything. Get back to the creeks around Roanoke where it's tough and do some real tests. Just my opinion.
Any place that stocks there body of water that often doesn't interest me
@@briantalbot394 its a spot that people pay to fish at.
I like the channel but you can't base findings from a paid creek with little pressure.
@@brianrussell5378 yeah, it would be better if he fished in places that don't stock every day.
I used 8 to 10 pound mono for years and always managed to catch a limit of stocked trout...AS LONG AS it was within a couple days of them being stocked. The longer they were in the stream, the more "street wise" they became and often I could see fish in pools but not be able to catch them. I had also never hooked one of the big fish...the 8+ pound class, 26+ inch fish. I went down to 2 and 4# test and it was like flipping a switch. Suddenly I could fish those "fished out" holes and pull a limit out of them, and in less than a month, I have caught 2 rainbows over 8 lbs in the most heavily fished river in Tennessee. Previously in 30 years, I had never had a single one. Line diameter does matter...whether mono, or fluro. I think the strength of braid is by using it as a main line with a fluro leader. I find fluro to suck when spooled directly onto a spinning reel. Way too much memory. But used as a leader it does really well. I can now come up on those holes where I can see fish, and catch some of them if they haven't been spooked. My brother inlaw and I are planning a trip up to your area for some of those big rainbows. People think stocked pay streams are easy picking...but the fish in them get educated extremely fast when bombarded with lures/baits all day every day.
That’s a cow drinking lol
Heck yeah
Fluorocarbon is the worse possible for the stream. It never breaks down. It has obvious advantages, but every time you break it off you’re leaving it in the water for good.
why are you using 20lb. braid? the advantage of braid is that you can achieve the same lbs. test with less diameter. try 8lb. braid against 8lb. mono and see what happens.
I always wonder how in the heck we ever caught fish without fluorocarbon line! And how in the heck can there be cattle in that stream? That's illegal, unethical and kills the environment! Or maybe you just dont live in NY state.
@@JackFalcon871
lots of sarcasm there bro. I grew up in the country fishing in creeks and ponds in cow pastures. Now, you let a cow get within a hundred yards of a body of water and the environmentalists freak the hell out. Seriously though, how did we ever catch fish before we had fluorocarbon line?
2lb. line for trout.