For those with hardware mono synthesisers with two vco's, and a step sequencer. You can usually use the same trick by locking the frequency of vco 2 per step and make the synth sound duophonic. It's a great trick on the korg monologue for example!
sir, just because of you my vocal started sounding better then before. you hv put alot of great tutorials and all are great. thank you so much 💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗
We love you Yalcin!! how did you learn so much? since when have you been studying synthesis and music production? are you a prodigy :P ?? thank you for so much value you give us
Don't wanna be a buzzkiller but this is actually not a trick, you're simply doing what you would do on 3 different tracks inside a single instance of Serum. Nothing wrong about it but you could simply have 3 serums with oscA, oscB and sub osc respectively and write different midi for each one, skipping the whole automation part, then group them and apply effects (you could use serum fx if you want exactly that distortion and that chorus) on the bus if you wanna process them as a whole, and you gain the possibility to eq/process them separately. What could be interesting about this way of doing it is using different step lfos to automate the semitone parameters in order to get semi-random note sequences (but again you could do it on separate tracks using arpeggiators and still have way more control over everything) tl;dr: the trick is actually layering and orchestration p.s. the "mono" wouldn't change anything in this patch as you're only playing one note for the whole loop :P
Gökhan Ceylan-Because he’s using a Moog Subsequent 37 which are simple oscillators. It bothers me that people attribute him to this “sound” which isn’t anything new. Just keep the Osc simple with basic filters and you’ll have his style-it’s easy to add too much character with Serum. Cheers
what's the difference with using a bass changing the notes in the piano roll (adding the SUB on a different layer)? I think that this could be useful only if you keep the same notes all along the track.
Nice tricks. But for less than $300 you can get a Neutron, a K-2 or a Model D from behringer and you'll have a true analog sound. If you listen to a true analog machine just a few minutes in A/B mode on Ableton, you will quickly notice that nothing can replace a true analog machine. For the lead sound or the bass it can be a very good and cheap way to get the real analog sound instead of tweaking the knobs of a very digital and cold yet very capable VST. Just one cheap analog machine used for specific situations can worth a thousand tricks on Serum. My 2 cents of course (and if you want an analog sound of course too...).
Thanks a lot! I definitely appreciate the warmth in the analog synths. Especially the vintage ones. However, I already own bunch of analogs including Moog Sub 37. And the difference between an analog gear and a nice emulation vst (Like the ones from U-He) is really really small. And more importantly, it is really hard to hear the difference when the instrument is in the mix. Let me give you an example; My tracks biskuwi - Kerfuffle biskuwi - Perses biskuwi - Dysania biskuwi - Norse Just listen to the leads and the bass and let me know which ones you think is analog and which ones you think vst. I challenge many of my "only analog" producer friends and none of them could really tell 100% up to know :)
@@Alice-Efe I believe you, if I take a Picasso and then I use photoshop to change colors and crop the image and apply a rotation, I'm sure a lot of persons will not recognize immediately whether it is a Picasso or a fake. Does it mean there is no difference between the true Picasso and the faked one ? Certainly not. Same for synths. Post processing can change dramatically the sound and even suppress what make the true machine unique. So it is easy to fool people. But taking this as the proof there is no difference is an error in the best case, in the worse one that's bad faith... But I'm sure you know this very well. Just a bit a bad faith I presume :-)
Olivier Dahan Sure, but you’re point was that you can easily hear the difference between the 2. So why don’t you tell us which of those songs uses an analog synth and which one a plugin?
@@koningskeizer Because we are not speaking about the same thing. Music is not just "efficiency" nor a way to fool beginners with tons of post-production FX. Your question has no meaning, it is like if you were telling to an airline pilot that since in a movie nobody can't tell the difference between a CGI of a plane and a true plane there is no need to built and use real planes... nonsense. Watching a plane in a movie or piloting a plane in the air are two different things. You're speaking like a movie watcher, not as a plane pilot. That's why I can't answer you question, it has no meaning for me.
Olivier Dahan Haha listen mate, you can throw around all the analogies you want but you are the one that said analog synths sound better and you could easily hear the difference. Not me. And if you want to talk about meaningless read your own smug “analog is better” statement again. Why would you even say something like that on a tutorial video this guy has clearly put time and effort in? You made yourself look even dumber when he replied he owns a much better analog synth than you do and now confronted with your stupidity you try and weasel yourself out of it. I can tell you now that’s a trait nobody will ever like and you are way too old to still be behaving this way.
Ufff, it's really nice sound, but I would love to know how to do all these things in other synthesizers, such as DIVA or Arturia MINI, or Bazille, because surely you can, but I want to see you work with other synths. Cheers and thanks Yalcin.
I tried to explain in the video but, if you draw the midi of root and the fifth note, BOTH oscillators wil play BOTH note. When you do it this way, each oscillator is playing different notes. You can try it yourself and you will definitely hear the difference. This is actually called duo mode in some synths.
instead of using a trial and error with the piano roll and scale...this seems like a nice way to make progressions. Wonder what would happen with a input more than one note.. Guess i will find out😂 Are there any chances you could make a follow up video about the how things work as a label? For example how is your processes of artwork / coverart. The last video about that was very eye opening.
There will be more video about the label :) Using more than one note makes it a bit more complicated and requires a bit more harmony knowledge but you can definitely try out yourself. 😊✌
I have now idea what you are talking about, how does making a synth play chords make a sound more analog? why dont you just do this with 2 different synths? Complete nonsense lol
I think it is easy to understand. If you use 2 synths, and play each note separately, you are sending each note to their own seperate filter. This will lead a different filter behavior than driving everything on single filter. Moreover, when you add addiditinal fx such as distortion, difference will be even more significant. If you use one single synth but play it as a poly, then your synth will act like a poly synth than mono synth and sound will be different. Moreover, you are now using more voices and each voice actually playing both note which is sonically different than playing each note with a single voice. I didn't want to go super into technicalities but you can easily experiment what I am saying.
I'm sorry but I don't get it either. This just seems like a very tedious way of layering chord parts. You know you can layer synths, group them and THEN send them to the same filter, right? You can even use Serum as an effect plugin. Don't get me wrong, I like the result, but you can get exactly this and much faster that way.
@@TheJohnsofDoes It is not only about FX. Let's say you are playing poly mode and playing the chords instead and you have 2 oscillators activated (Both oscillator a and B). Let's say you play a Power F chord, F and C at the same time, then it means both oscillator A and oscillator B is playing F and C at the same time. When you do it the way I show you, oscillator A is playing F and oscillator B is playing C. So the sound you get is more like a mono sound than a poly sound because of this and the vibe is different. This is a very old trick and anybody who owned a old mono synth would probably know about it. Apart from that, having 4 voices going into filter has completely different effect than having 2 voices going into filter. And then you have all the FX coming afterwards. You can use 2 serum at the same time playing seperate not, send them into Serum FX and try to do it that way. But then you have one less filter, and I think it is even more complicated that what I show here. Hope it is clear now.
Yes! The droning bass keeps it going and you are basically making chords as a lead over that. About to steal this and put it in a hard techno track
I am sure you are gonna nail it Julien!
You’re absolutely one of the best teachers for these genres on this platform. Thank you for spreading your knowledge!
For those with hardware mono synthesisers with two vco's, and a step sequencer. You can usually use the same trick by locking the frequency of vco 2 per step and make the synth sound duophonic. It's a great trick on the korg monologue for example!
sir, just because of you my vocal started sounding better then before. you hv put alot of great tutorials and all are great. thank you so much 💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗
Your tutorials are awesome! Fortsätt så! 🙏🙏
We love you Yalcin!! how did you learn so much? since when have you been studying synthesis and music production? are you a prodigy :P ?? thank you for so much value you give us
Great tutorial, once again. Keep up the good work!
This was such an eye opener !! Your tutorials are the best.
Youre Such a legend, i tried recreating this sound so Many times, but never been able to do. Thank you!
Incredible what you do with serum. Love your Tutorials! 👍❤️
Bro! Best trick on RUclips 🔥
Love how he always says beatleful instead of beautiful. True musician right there😂🤞
10:39 no he compressed the First note of this word :D
Great video! Can you tell me how you did the bass in wavetable please? Beautiful rich sound.
Doesnt Serum have a paraphonic mode? If it does then the same could be made much easier :) (i dont know, dont have Serum)
Thanks Yalcin. I used this theory on my analog SE-02 to create a cool analog lead
That bass line is perfect! I need it
Thank you so much man! you've helped us a lot
Really happy to help!
This was fantastic. Thanks for sharing.
I really want to learn how you made that Groove! Thats just amazing
Same!!
Wow thank you for your amazing tutorials keep up the good work
Thanks for all your videos!! One of the best music production channel love your content❤. (What's the music in the intro btw it sounds very nice!!!)
why do not use Wavetable instead of serum in case of using ableton, no cost, in built, easier to use.
The resonance filter sounds awesome!
Thanks for the tutorial videos. Make also some videos about Clawz SG type of productions or Steyoyoke general. Keep up the good content!
Don't wanna be a buzzkiller but this is actually not a trick, you're simply doing what you would do on 3 different tracks inside a single instance of Serum.
Nothing wrong about it but you could simply have 3 serums with oscA, oscB and sub osc respectively and write different midi for each one, skipping the whole automation part, then group them and apply effects (you could use serum fx if you want exactly that distortion and that chorus) on the bus if you wanna process them as a whole, and you gain the possibility to eq/process them separately.
What could be interesting about this way of doing it is using different step lfos to automate the semitone parameters in order to get semi-random note sequences (but again you could do it on separate tracks using arpeggiators and still have way more control over everything)
tl;dr: the trick is actually layering and orchestration
p.s. the "mono" wouldn't change anything in this patch as you're only playing one note for the whole loop :P
Masterclass should have been hire you instead of deadmau5. So much value and knowledge in this tutorials 👏
Amazing! Thanks for sharing.
Great stuff tnks
Great sound man thank you for your great tutorials! It reminds me of Stephan Bodzin like a vibe.
Gökhan Ceylan-Because he’s using a Moog Subsequent 37 which are simple oscillators. It bothers me that people attribute him to this “sound” which isn’t anything new. Just keep the Osc simple with basic filters and you’ll have his style-it’s easy to add too much character with Serum. Cheers
Amazing tutorial 👏🏻
what's the difference with using a bass changing the notes in the piano roll (adding the SUB on a different layer)? I think that this could be useful only if you keep the same notes all along the track.
Genius!!
Fuck! I had to pause the video to say this sounds amazing! More of these please.
Haha cheers mate!
Wow man. That's like serious well explained stuff.
Great video. Reminds me of deadmau5 style chords. 👍
Thanks a lot for the in depth tutorials. They are amazing! Best RUclips Channel...road to 4k.
Almost there! 😅
That was quality, thanks!
Loved it
A/V out of sync...
Amazing!
Excellent Stuff @Yalcin. Love to see your take on a Kasper Koman style (Tracks like - The Change / Rocking Boat)
that was an GOLD Trick thank you abi
Your a genius!!!!! Awesome
You're a star, thanks for that.
Can you do a tutorial on the percussion of tracks like Elysian and Opus by Coeus? Thanks
THANKS!!!!
Good fucking content holy shit!
u r genius
Nice tricks. But for less than $300 you can get a Neutron, a K-2 or a Model D from behringer and you'll have a true analog sound. If you listen to a true analog machine just a few minutes in A/B mode on Ableton, you will quickly notice that nothing can replace a true analog machine. For the lead sound or the bass it can be a very good and cheap way to get the real analog sound instead of tweaking the knobs of a very digital and cold yet very capable VST. Just one cheap analog machine used for specific situations can worth a thousand tricks on Serum. My 2 cents of course (and if you want an analog sound of course too...).
Thanks a lot! I definitely appreciate the warmth in the analog synths. Especially the vintage ones.
However, I already own bunch of analogs including Moog Sub 37. And the difference between an analog gear and a nice emulation vst (Like the ones from U-He) is really really small. And more importantly, it is really hard to hear the difference when the instrument is in the mix.
Let me give you an example;
My tracks
biskuwi - Kerfuffle
biskuwi - Perses
biskuwi - Dysania
biskuwi - Norse
Just listen to the leads and the bass and let me know which ones you think is analog and which ones you think vst. I challenge many of my "only analog" producer friends and none of them could really tell 100% up to know :)
@@Alice-Efe I believe you, if I take a Picasso and then I use photoshop to change colors and crop the image and apply a rotation, I'm sure a lot of persons will not recognize immediately whether it is a Picasso or a fake.
Does it mean there is no difference between the true Picasso and the faked one ? Certainly not.
Same for synths. Post processing can change dramatically the sound and even suppress what make the true machine unique. So it is easy to fool people.
But taking this as the proof there is no difference is an error in the best case, in the worse one that's bad faith...
But I'm sure you know this very well. Just a bit a bad faith I presume :-)
Olivier Dahan Sure, but you’re point was that you can easily hear the difference between the 2. So why don’t you tell us which of those songs uses an analog synth and which one a plugin?
@@koningskeizer Because we are not speaking about the same thing. Music is not just "efficiency" nor a way to fool beginners with tons of post-production FX.
Your question has no meaning, it is like if you were telling to an airline pilot that since in a movie nobody can't tell the difference between a CGI of a plane and a true plane there is no need to built and use real planes... nonsense.
Watching a plane in a movie or piloting a plane in the air are two different things.
You're speaking like a movie watcher, not as a plane pilot.
That's why I can't answer you question, it has no meaning for me.
Olivier Dahan Haha listen mate, you can throw around all the analogies you want but you are the one that said analog synths sound better and you could easily hear the difference. Not me. And if you want to talk about meaningless read your own smug “analog is better” statement again. Why would you even say something like that on a tutorial video this guy has clearly put time and effort in? You made yourself look even dumber when he replied he owns a much better analog synth than you do and now confronted with your stupidity you try and weasel yourself out of it. I can tell you now that’s a trait nobody will ever like and you are way too old to still be behaving this way.
Güzel tutorial abi
Thanks
tight tight tight
how you made the groove?! :S
just some kicks and pads and bass 😊🙌
@@hippiehabitat I actually posted the Ableton file on my Patreon. You can get it there :)
forever
Ufff, it's really nice sound, but I would love to know how to do all these things in other synthesizers, such as DIVA or Arturia MINI, or Bazille, because surely you can, but I want to see you work with other synths. Cheers and thanks Yalcin.
There will be more like Diva. Just wait a little bit 😊
just find your osc tune knob in diva or arturia mini. Its pretty straight forward =)
It's absolutely the same. You might find it easier to separate the voicings through multiple synths and process them together afterwards.
why not just draw the midi notes ??? it deson't make any sense really !
I tried to explain in the video but, if you draw the midi of root and the fifth note, BOTH oscillators wil play BOTH note. When you do it this way, each oscillator is playing different notes.
You can try it yourself and you will definitely hear the difference. This is actually called duo mode in some synths.
Yalcin Efe yeah but it would probably be easier to just have 2 instances of Serum, each with just 1 of the oscillators & draw the notes, no?
I’ll answer my own question: it drives the filter differently (I saw your reply to another person)
@@colinallcars5239 :) Exactly!
instead of using a trial and error with the piano roll and scale...this seems like a nice way to make progressions.
Wonder what would happen with a input more than one note..
Guess i will find out😂
Are there any chances you could make a follow up video about the how things work as a label?
For example how is your processes of artwork / coverart.
The last video about that was very eye opening.
There will be more video about the label :) Using more than one note makes it a bit more complicated and requires a bit more harmony knowledge but you can definitely try out yourself. 😊✌
I have now idea what you are talking about, how does making a synth play chords make a sound more analog? why dont you just do this with 2 different synths? Complete nonsense lol
I think it is easy to understand.
If you use 2 synths, and play each note separately, you are sending each note to their own seperate filter. This will lead a different filter behavior than driving everything on single filter. Moreover, when you add addiditinal fx such as distortion, difference will be even more significant.
If you use one single synth but play it as a poly, then your synth will act like a poly synth than mono synth and sound will be different. Moreover, you are now using more voices and each voice actually playing both note which is sonically different than playing each note with a single voice.
I didn't want to go super into technicalities but you can easily experiment what I am saying.
I'm sorry but I don't get it either. This just seems like a very tedious way of layering chord parts. You know you can layer synths, group them and THEN send them to the same filter, right? You can even use Serum as an effect plugin. Don't get me wrong, I like the result, but you can get exactly this and much faster that way.
@@TheJohnsofDoes It is not only about FX.
Let's say you are playing poly mode and playing the chords instead and you have 2 oscillators activated (Both oscillator a and B).
Let's say you play a Power F chord, F and C at the same time, then it means both oscillator A and oscillator B is playing F and C at the same time.
When you do it the way I show you, oscillator A is playing F and oscillator B is playing C. So the sound you get is more like a mono sound than a poly sound because of this and the vibe is different. This is a very old trick and anybody who owned a old mono synth would probably know about it.
Apart from that, having 4 voices going into filter has completely different effect than having 2 voices going into filter. And then you have all the FX coming afterwards.
You can use 2 serum at the same time playing seperate not, send them into Serum FX and try to do it that way. But then you have one less filter, and I think it is even more complicated that what I show here.
Hope it is clear now.