Huge respect for Defyn for uptaking such a dangerous career... If at any time now or in the future when his ejection doesn't work I don't think we'd still have him around to make content...
Its sad some people in the community would actually disagree with the point of not power creeping just so they can feel good about themselves i pray gaijin actually does something about it instead of just milking us for our money.
Each patch the same braindead take, that just because X nation was OP last patch it's okay if Y nation is overpowered now. Because we cannot have balance for once.
Funnily enough some planes have working ground based altimeters in their cockpit. One that I can immediately say off of the top of my head is that the MiG-17 has it modeled and working accurately.
One thing to keep in mind about the current matchmaking is that since it's 16v16 players die a lot faster due to furball and steamrolling (the new IR missiles makes killing players a lot easier) which will cause the RP gain per match to be awful, especially for F2P. If you do average you'll only get around 2-3k RP, at most 5k RP per match if you did well.
@@Likeaworm I'm assuming that Gaijin did a stealth nerf to the rewards which is also one of the reasons why they've pushed the update to improve the economy back until god knows when.
honestly adding more people to higher tier was the incorrect move, it should have been the reverse, lower tiers should have more people per match and higher tiers should have less, 1. better ballance and 2. more historicly accurate to the air wing sizes of those era's
Fr first game I played this patch in the Harrier GR7 my RWR was going mental the entire time and I was getting slammed by 6 MiG-29s and 3 F-16s. Might as well replace top tier music with Showdown from Project Wingman with how many jets there are in those furballs.
@@99eryaydude93well I have over 1k hours in props so it got kinda boring for me - Jets are ofc a bit of a clustef*ck but at least the meta and fighting styles are still changing there
I think I've died more often this patch to random radar SPAA from 4km away than I have actual other aircraft lmao. They nerfed mid map AA, but they seemed to have buffed the convoy AA and added even more of them next to bombable bases.
Why we coudn't just have an early F 15 (or F 18) with 9Ls and sparrows for a few nations, and a slight increase in BR, is beyond me. Why we have these planes and missiles rn is so confusing, and top tier SUCKS rn.
Watching the F-16C and the R-73 videos I can tell the game is in dire need for decompression. I mean, even more so that it was already. Not to mention that top tier needs to go full 6.0, 6v6 matches...
@@zack10291029 so many 11.3s shouldnt be fighting 10.3s or 10.7s or even 11.0s considering its ONLY the 11.3s that get SARHs, what gaijin need to do is move the 11.3s to 11.7 and give them stronger SARH missiles (this includes the premiums) because its much harder facing 11.3s in an up tier than it is in a downtier if your the top BR
@@thebean8255EC maps don’t actually help as the core gameplay doesn’t change. It’s still a massive dogfight in the middle that just takes longer to get to.
Think its about time gaijin realised that these planes were not made to fight 16v16 deathmatche's and that its probably time that the number is cut in half
From my experience the F-16C is definitely the most dominant Jet This patch, yes the Russian missiles are also really good, but the 9M is literally a point a click experience from what I seen.
I'd also note the MiG-29's seem to be a lot more sensitive to fuel changes now, which is most likely the main reason the SMT feels so bad rn. Taking full fuel load is not just overkill but also sandbagging it's performance.
I honestly don't find the r27er to be very reliable at all, especially since it got nerfed with attila (making it slower). but 90% (even before this nerf) of the time even with perfect missile solutions for the er the missile just goes stupid with a full lock and a non manouvering enemy, its done that so consistantly i stay away from using it. and for the r73 it still has a god awful fish tailing problem, i've shot at an f16 in rear aspect from 0.30 km away, and my missile decided that it wanted to do summersaults in place that day and didn't even go 500m. so far i have not fired a r73 that hasn't been shaky. i dont know if im just horrendously unlucky or what but more often than not i've had it 1 flared in rear aspect from 2 km aswell. and then there's the flight model, we still have an AOA limiter and can only hit a max of 20 degrees of AOA (which is substantially less than even real life safety guidelines) and it turns like a boat, never got the engine upgrade it was supposed to. but yet i only ever see american players say its op still. where as they got the majority of the buffs this update, the f16 currently is an absolute UFO and absolutely not worth dogfighting even in the old mig29, its that good, not gonna mention the aim9m because i haven't used them and have dodged a lot of them, but from what i've seen, they fly straight and true and very often hit their target. And it also kind of seems like theres been a shadow buff for the aim9L because those things COMPLETLY ignore flares now, being unable to dodge them while doing everything right to dodge an IR missile, which is just another plus 1 to america, so this is update is extremely weighed towards the american playerbase throwing the other nations to the wayside. Thats just been my experience so far.
This 16 vs 16 shit is aweful. My RWR looks like a note from the Zodiac Killer. Its useless 90% of the time. They really need to reduce the upper tier player counts to like 10 vs 10 max.
Nah man, 8v8 is the max. Keep the EC maps but make it three separate possible airfields to take off from on each side. Both teams get an AWACS in a holding pattern above the center airfields that you can use as a “blind hunt that you can intercept” type of thing.
@christopherchartier3017 At this point just lower than 16 vs 16 would be fine for me. EC should be a separate mode ideally but i doubt we'll ever see it. Ive written essays on the forums to Gaijin about separating ARB EC to no avail. Doubt we'll ever get AWACs. Truth is that Gaijin doesn't care much about air. Its just a support tree for ground at this point.
it is also more than bugged. you get pings of your friendlies radars when they are infront on you - you get randomly locked by friendly radars that are nowhere near, random launch warnings and so so much more bullshit
That’s because we are reaching the point where technology just exponentially gets better. Planes that’s are only a couple years apart have vast different in performance. After all,Ja37 and F-16 are only 2 years difference in real life.
@@Bobspineable that's just wrong and the opposite is true. The 5 year difference in performance between the Bf-109 E and the Bf-109 K is SIGNIFICANTLY greater than the 10 year difference in performance between the F-16A and F-16C. Innovation slowed down with the economic decay and lack of conflict from the 70s onwards. America hasn't made a generational leap in fighter or MBT technology in over 30 years now when we were previously making them every 5-10 years.
@@ryan742Point still stands JA37 and F-16 are only two years apart and yet there’s still a massive performance difference, especially when it comes to missiles.
@@Bobspineable You're talking about the US vs Sweden which isn't a fair comparison at all, so no, your point doesn't stand. The US was always ahead everyone else with their technology during the cold war. That example has absolutely nothing to do with exponential performance growth and everything to do with the resources available to those respective countries.
I always thought the SMT had stronger engines, so either my expectations were false & that was a later variant or Gaijin did an oopsie, either way it's sad how they massacred my boy!
Its un-real how many F16 players I still see complaining that their jet isn't good enough. I am aware that every nation has players who are guilty of wanting their nation to curb stomp the rest, but in the most recent patches, it seems like America has been really bad about this. The fact they now have by far the best flight performance, the best or second best Fox 2, and are STILL finding stuff to complain about when some nations don't even have fourth gens is beyond me.
Probably because Gaijin added an F-16C-50. The most modern F-16 variant the US operates. Yet, it lacks probably it's most signature weapon, the AIM 120 AMRAAM. Gaijin really shouldn't have added any jet from the 2000s yet, and stuck with jets from the 70s, 80s and 90s.
The problem is that even if gaijin gave the SMT the RD-33 V3 it wouldn't help, it barely increases thrust, they should've went with the MiG-29M or MiG-29K
15:46 also very real that happened to me when the update dropped i didnt now there was a lot of cloud maps and while i was flying i got jump scared by a mountain and instantly crashed
From what I’ve played so far honestly the f16c and Mig 29SMT are literally just the same additions as apex predators. Want a insane flight performance with decent missles? - F16a or adf. Want a decent flight performance with insane missles?- Mig 29. These planes are pretty much split 50/50 as they were before and I welcome how they were added. Tho I do wish the mig just wasn’t a 27ER slinger, it’s pretty level for the sake of balance.
That was my experience with the first 3-4 games with first jet premium experience with the F4 Brick. 1. Fly direct into a mountain within all clouds 2. Was shot down with more altitude from far away like no warning.
@@Roguecjb well of course it does, but it should also see an increase in thrust like the f-16c did, which would even out the t:w ratio better and keep it relevant in dogfights
Wasn't't Gaijin planning on fixing its flight model and giving it more AOA, or was I lied to? Also, did the 9-12 mig 29 get its flightmodel changed like this? Or is it simply due to the extra weight of the SMT?
@@martijn9568 it wouldnt change the sustained rate at a corner speed it just means it can tap into its speed more for faster turns at the expense of energy.
Could just be placebo but speaking of the Viggen(37C), now that the black hole is topped at 12.3, you get some more downtiers and it's actually pretty disgusting down there since you're back to fighting mig21s, phantoms
10.3 to 10.7 feels really good as long as you in us plane... F8E, F5C, F5E are just too good there. Mig21smt is also good at this br. Played jap F104j and F1 for some time. F104j is just a free frag without flares. F1 is decent but without flares... is also a food for aim9l and r60m when in wrong position for one single second.
Its as if gaijin has got sick and tired of hearing crying about how "the mig 29 is so op". When in reality the mig 29 and f16 where somewhat well matched.
See how powerful the community is? They trolled Gaijin into nerfing the 29s so they could fly around launching smokeless 9Ms in their unrestricted F16s.
The whole 8.7-10.3 range needs serious work. I want to see sabres vs migs and early LA's again without missile vultures ruining the fun of jet dog fights.
I just wish there would be more balance. it feels like usa and ussr trade places as the dominant force every patch and other nations suffer for it. especially other nations that don’t have american or soviet planes. It would be way more fun if there was more variety and it wasn’t just the same 3-4 planes plus premium planes.
While I think the bad FM is exaggerated, it plays into Russian doctrine of the time of getting one really good high speed turn and using the R-73 and HMD to carry it through the fight back when HOBS missiles and HMD’s were far from standard.
I don't get why they didn't add the MiG-29S instead. It's a Soviet variant, so it would make more sense to add it first from a historical point of view. Its flight performance is better than the SMT too. It's basically just the 9-13, except it can pull a little more AOA.
that's because the 9.19 SMT can do CAS with guided weapons, and we all know that Gaijin prioritizes GroundRB over anything else (AirRB is likely to be the last in their list). There was no point on adding the SMT (neither the 16C Block 50)
@@IllustriousUnknown416I guess that's why we haven't the F-15 yet. Maybe Gaijin is going to skip the air to air Eagles, and jump straight to the F-15E Strike Eagle, which would be shame.
@@jonleg12312 wasn’t a preparation for Fox-3 that this patch was all about?? It was. The block 50 and the SMT got added because it is very likely that Fox-3s are coming until the end of the year (maybe next update), but instead of giving early 90s tech, they opted to add mid-2000s tech, making these machines CAS options. I don’t see the 29S coming as a tech tree anymore. And I really don’t understand Gaijin’s fetiche with giving USSR these humpback variants. Both of them (21SMT and 29SMT) are very limited production variants. The 9.19 is not even used as a frontline fighter irl, all of them are in service with combat training units (since the MiG-35S were already planned to enter service with Russia when these SMT were retained by them. The last 29SMT to be delivered is from 2016)
The f16s feel pretty good and I think they should remain as they are, but the migs need to pull more AOA than they currently do. The f16 irl out rates everything known to man. But the mig is better in the one circle. The smt does need better engines though. I agree there. I also don't know why they didn't give the f14B the 9m and move it to 12.3.
@@manueldelbusto725well if you wanna use dcs as a gauge the F16 does indeed outdo anything in a rate fight (block 50) and is also surprisingly good one circle
The SMT didn't actually have any improved engine performance rather than just imorvef fuel efficency and longevity. But its flight model nerf was way too over the top even if it does have the best dog-fight missiles available
"MUh RuSsIan BiAs" US mains are probably still going to cry that the F-16 didn't AMRAAMs and Aim-9Xs. Btw which one is worse rn? The SMT or the mirage F1C?
I don't have a problem with the high speed loss - pulling 10Gs is gonna dump an insane amount of speed in any plane. I have a problem with fantasy flight models pulling 11-13Gs with ease and facilitating that speed dump with every turn. I'd rather have more accurate G loads so that planes stay faster without turning into something from Ace Combat. Gives older aircraft like the Phantom and MiG-21 a bit more of an edge too because they don't tend to exceed their G limits nearly as often. But yea 7Gs dumping half your speed starting at nearly mach? BS
Lacking in russia was a mistake had to get the mig23 pack so i can stop grinding with the 21smt. Frankly I actually enjoy the mig23 and the r24ts. Going from bvr to bfm against a high flying f14 and winning is rediculously satisfying.
Mig-29SMT not able to dogfight F-16C is true to reality. Mig 29 S and SMT both cannot sustain 2 circle dogfight by its design. This is NOT a dogfighter! It is designed to be high altitude point-to-point interceptor. It out accelerates to reach a certain altitude, and with its speed, launches its arsenal of missiles, then turns to dive away. Extremely effective on its role, and considered as a primary air threat by NATO.
Defyn is right about the radar missiles these days. You have to mow the lawn in your top tier jets otherwise you get slammed from 12km away by a 27er or 7m. I want to play my jet like a jet. I'd play tanks if I wanted to mow the lawn. All of the radars in the game are too powerful and maintain lock on a chaffed notch too well.
Toptier not only has too many people, there's just too many people that tunnel vision on the first enemy they see. I rarely see any methodical gameplay, it's mostly just rushing in to get targets and kills ASAP. No wonder though when probably the majority of people by now got there through endless premium base bombing
I get the unpleasantness with the weak engines. I agree they need buffed some. Losing to F-16s in a dogfight thought. I can't complain. 29 has better standoff and IR missles. F-16 has better dogfight capability. That in and of itself is balance. I fly both sides and enjoy both equally. I prefer to fly the F-16 because it is my favorite of all time IRL. Though as I fly in Sim my opinion is only worth so much here. TarnsmanOzz is my game name if some want to check before spouting something off the cuff here. o7 Great video, Defyn. Keep up the good work.
So now russian mains get to be slammed for a patch :) All jokes aside tho i hate that each patch its one nation that is way better than the other, genuine balance is all the player base really wants and there are so many ways gaijin could do that
Too be fair they have the best missiles in the game. russian planes are known to lose speed for maneuverability, Su-27, MiG29. The F16 is one of the best dogfighters out there anyway.
I came to the conclusion that the game will never change, it'll be always be like the way you said "each patch its one nation that is way better than the other", i got very sad today because the mig29 was my favourite aircraft and now it turns like a brick and i'm talking about the old ones, it completely discouraged me from getting the SMT. Idc if the missiles are good, nobody asked for the r27er, everybody knows that the fulcrum isn't supposed to be good bvr-wise, i just wanted the plane to be like how it should be.
These planes just shouldn’t be here this early, in the future it’s going to have a much higher br no doubt with all the other active radar missile carrier platforms
Disclaimer it's not a yak-141 radar its actually a better one. It gets 5° extra on both sides. Rest I said about it was still correct.
Ok funny Dutchman with the name I can’t pronounce.
It also has longer lock range in PD HDN
@@friesingcold by how much?
@@Archmagos_Faber by an extra 20km iirc
@@friesingcoldnot modeled yet( or when i checked yesterday was literally the same as the 141
"the fuel of the mig-29 on full afterburner lasts about as long as I do in bed"... That's actually quite impressive! 💪
Another usuall Defyn description 😂😂
The fact he went with that less than 30 seconds in shows the man has some balls.
@@firestarteronyoutube5542😂
Defyn trying not to make a sex joke in the first 10 seconds of the video (he can't)
actually he could, he did it on 0:18
@@kingghidorah8106🤓☝️
It would be a miracle but a sad one :D
@@kingghidorah8106missed the point but ok bro
@@GooseOfYork you missed his joke harder than he did tbh
The DEFUSSY is in an awkward spot
😭
:3
Is defyn cute and funny?
Defussy
LMAOOOOOO
Gaijin: "Oh don't worry, we removed/reduced night battles"
* adds fog games to replace it *
Huge respect for Defyn for uptaking such a dangerous career... If at any time now or in the future when his ejection doesn't work I don't think we'd still have him around to make content...
We all know Defyn gets an ace _minimum_ and never dies, so thankfully it's not something we need to worry about...
Didn't know i needed some Dutch guy going full "freddy fazburt" until now but here we are.
16:07
16:05 "cuz out of no where there will be suddenly a mountain that just goes harhar harhar" I have tears coming out of my eyes rn :D
I fuckin died on that😂
exactly xDDDDD
19:40 Defyn's power is so unmatched it takes ai to kill him, yet he still gets away without dying. Truly the god of war thunder :prayge:
Its sad some people in the community would actually disagree with the point of not power creeping just so they can feel good about themselves i pray gaijin actually does something about it instead of just milking us for our money.
Each patch the same braindead take, that just because X nation was OP last patch it's okay if Y nation is overpowered now. Because we cannot have balance for once.
we need ground radar and relative altitude if this cloud thing is going to be the norm
There are a LOT of planes that have ground radars in war thunder, but there isn't even 1 plane that have it
(There is 1... the su39)
Jets with ground radar: Tornado, Viggens, A7 (all variants), A6 and some more.
Gaijin why dont u make them?
@@techmakingthings5440I think he means a radar altimeter
Funnily enough some planes have working ground based altimeters in their cockpit. One that I can immediately say off of the top of my head is that the MiG-17 has it modeled and working accurately.
@lilbits1947 a lot of modern jets have it in their cockpit, like harriers, viggens, f16...
I need a video of the F-4E out-rating a MiG-29SMT, would be hilarious to see
f-4e can pull 28deg/s at 950 ias, the smt idk but would be funny, unless the mig29 starts flying slower and starts turning inside the f-4.
Considering the Meteor Mk4 LW rates at 24deg/s your numbers are shit Rico.
Breh...... that is horrifying
What about the Tornado
It’s a lie
@@Sumi_S agreed, russian mains are coping so hard, like they don't have enough with having the best radar missiles and the best radar range 💀
The F16C and the Mig 29 SMT are really beautiful planes, i love them.
One thing to keep in mind about the current matchmaking is that since it's 16v16 players die a lot faster due to furball and steamrolling (the new IR missiles makes killing players a lot easier) which will cause the RP gain per match to be awful, especially for F2P. If you do average you'll only get around 2-3k RP, at most 5k RP per match if you did well.
my last match on f-4e was 4 kills in 18 minutes, and i got 4k rp only 💀
Bro what the fuck is up with the rp gains I used to get 15-20k 💀. Got 4 kills with a 30% booster in the smt and only got 10k :/
@@LikeawormYeah i remember many many many years ago it was normal for people to get 20-40k rp in top tier even if they didnt do great
Got 5k in the f104g (Italy 10.7) and got only 3k.
Bruh
@@Likeaworm I'm assuming that Gaijin did a stealth nerf to the rewards which is also one of the reasons why they've pushed the update to improve the economy back until god knows when.
Check out MiG-23M's bug reports. All Fulcrums and Vipers currently have extremely bugged FMs, with the Fulcrum being a brick and the Viper being a UFO
honestly adding more people to higher tier was the incorrect move, it should have been the reverse, lower tiers should have more people per match and higher tiers should have less, 1. better ballance and 2. more historicly accurate to the air wing sizes of those era's
Fr first game I played this patch in the Harrier GR7 my RWR was going mental the entire time and I was getting slammed by 6 MiG-29s and 3 F-16s. Might as well replace top tier music with Showdown from Project Wingman with how many jets there are in those furballs.
most people will always gravitate toward the newer jets over older props, its just how the majority thinks
16v16 was a giant mistake yeah. 8v8 or 10v10 would've been fine
@@xSupraLook at sim sb. Its so great
@@99eryaydude93well I have over 1k hours in props so it got kinda boring for me - Jets are ofc a bit of a clustef*ck but at least the meta and fighting styles are still changing there
I think I've died more often this patch to random radar SPAA from 4km away than I have actual other aircraft lmao. They nerfed mid map AA, but they seemed to have buffed the convoy AA and added even more of them next to bombable bases.
Why we coudn't just have an early F 15 (or F 18) with 9Ls and sparrows for a few nations, and a slight increase in BR, is beyond me. Why we have these planes and missiles rn is so confusing, and top tier SUCKS rn.
bc they will inevitably add these planes, too, and milk all they can from each time period. designed to be hyped up and slow to maximise profits.
@@youranretartAt this rate early F-15s and F/A-18s are going to be dead on arrival.
@@martijn9568 I hope so. Z
@@youranretart It would be a shame for such iconic aircraft. At least the later variants shouldn't be powercreept
fr, and that's why I'm so disappointed.@@martijn9568
20 second in the video and i'm already laughing, happy that u exist Mr Defyn !
Watching the F-16C and the R-73 videos I can tell the game is in dire need for decompression. I mean, even more so that it was already. Not to mention that top tier needs to go full 6.0, 6v6 matches...
I agree, so many 11.3's that should never fight an f-16c or mig-29smt. Mig-23mld, f-4j, etc
@@zack10291029 so many 11.3s shouldnt be fighting 10.3s or 10.7s or even 11.0s considering its ONLY the 11.3s that get SARHs, what gaijin need to do is move the 11.3s to 11.7 and give them stronger SARH missiles (this includes the premiums) because its much harder facing 11.3s in an up tier than it is in a downtier if your the top BR
They need to separate EC maps and standard maps above 9.0. I would absolutely love to only play EC maps at top tier.
@@123TheCloop all apsect missiles at 10.0 are a joke - they need to be at least at 12.7 imo - this update is a bad joke
@@thebean8255EC maps don’t actually help as the core gameplay doesn’t change. It’s still a massive dogfight in the middle that just takes longer to get to.
Think its about time gaijin realised that these planes were not made to fight 16v16 deathmatche's and that its probably time that the number is cut in half
From my experience the F-16C is definitely the most dominant Jet This patch, yes the Russian missiles are also really good, but the 9M is literally a point a click experience from what I seen.
I'm ok with it. About time nato aircraft dominate
@@VectorGhostwhen mig dares to compete against murica: Hurr durr soviet bias. When america gets tomcat/f16 and dominates the shit: it's okay
@@ыцццФцццwhat happens is people get bored. US dominates so people wish for Russia to get buffed. Russia dominates, US gets buffed.
@@VectorGhost ahh yess it's so fun when one nation dumbfucks the other for one patch, totally better than actual balance. you absolute clown
@@VectorGhost It's not nato tho, because other nations can't compete
I genuinely feel like the Netz is the number one fighter at top tier right now. The flight model + missile combo on that thing is just so damn good.
I’m grinding Israel for it rn, almost have the mystere iva, been grinding it for a month, this tree is such a cheat code, can’t wait for the pythons
“Out of nowhere nowhere there will suddenly bc a mountain that goes arh arh uhh arh”
DEFYN doin the fnaf beatbox was such an epic moment tbh xD
-> 16:05
I'd also note the MiG-29's seem to be a lot more sensitive to fuel changes now, which is most likely the main reason the SMT feels so bad rn. Taking full fuel load is not just overkill but also sandbagging it's performance.
Nah even on minimum fuel it’s horrendous
Top tier keeps getting so much better! Can’t wait for the F-22 and Su-57 to be released next patch! At 12.7 nonetheless!
F-35 premium at 13.0 for 200 dollars!!!
nah 13.0 is too much for an f35 it should be at 9.7@@cheekibreeki4638
16:06 Bro I had your video playing in the background hearing about the jet and then I hear you got "Har har har har" and I fucking lost it
That ending is the biggest "get fucked" card from Gaijin and the perfect summary of why I don't want to play this game anymore
I honestly don't find the r27er to be very reliable at all, especially since it got nerfed with attila (making it slower). but 90% (even before this nerf) of the time even with perfect missile solutions for the er the missile just goes stupid with a full lock and a non manouvering enemy, its done that so consistantly i stay away from using it. and for the r73 it still has a god awful fish tailing problem, i've shot at an f16 in rear aspect from 0.30 km away, and my missile decided that it wanted to do summersaults in place that day and didn't even go 500m. so far i have not fired a r73 that hasn't been shaky. i dont know if im just horrendously unlucky or what but more often than not i've had it 1 flared in rear aspect from 2 km aswell. and then there's the flight model, we still have an AOA limiter and can only hit a max of 20 degrees of AOA (which is substantially less than even real life safety guidelines) and it turns like a boat, never got the engine upgrade it was supposed to. but yet i only ever see american players say its op still. where as they got the majority of the buffs this update, the f16 currently is an absolute UFO and absolutely not worth dogfighting even in the old mig29, its that good, not gonna mention the aim9m because i haven't used them and have dodged a lot of them, but from what i've seen, they fly straight and true and very often hit their target.
And it also kind of seems like theres been a shadow buff for the aim9L because those things COMPLETLY ignore flares now, being unable to dodge them while doing everything right to dodge an IR missile, which is just another plus 1 to america, so this is update is extremely weighed towards the american playerbase throwing the other nations to the wayside.
Thats just been my experience so far.
16:10 happens to me once every time there’s fog on the map and I’m like “WTFFF”
You had me giggling all morning with the wt trailer joke at 8:30 lol
This 16 vs 16 shit is aweful. My RWR looks like a note from the Zodiac Killer. Its useless 90% of the time. They really need to reduce the upper tier player counts to like 10 vs 10 max.
I think it’d be helpful if planes with IFF would ignore/filter out friendly pings, idk if thats realistic but it would be nice
Nah man, 8v8 is the max. Keep the EC maps but make it three separate possible airfields to take off from on each side. Both teams get an AWACS in a holding pattern above the center airfields that you can use as a “blind hunt that you can intercept” type of thing.
@christopherchartier3017 At this point just lower than 16 vs 16 would be fine for me. EC should be a separate mode ideally but i doubt we'll ever see it. Ive written essays on the forums to Gaijin about separating ARB EC to no avail. Doubt we'll ever get AWACs. Truth is that Gaijin doesn't care much about air. Its just a support tree for ground at this point.
it is also more than bugged. you get pings of your friendlies radars when they are infront on you - you get randomly locked by friendly radars that are nowhere near, random launch warnings and so so much more bullshit
Love having to fight Migs with R-73s and F-16s with AIM-9Ms in my JA37D and Tornado F.3… fair and balanced matchmaking indeed Gaijiggles
That’s because we are reaching the point where technology just exponentially gets better. Planes that’s are only a couple years apart have vast different in performance. After all,Ja37 and F-16 are only 2 years difference in real life.
Who cares about real life, make the game fun
@@Bobspineable that's just wrong and the opposite is true. The 5 year difference in performance between the Bf-109 E and the Bf-109 K is SIGNIFICANTLY greater than the 10 year difference in performance between the F-16A and F-16C. Innovation slowed down with the economic decay and lack of conflict from the 70s onwards. America hasn't made a generational leap in fighter or MBT technology in over 30 years now when we were previously making them every 5-10 years.
@@ryan742Point still stands JA37 and F-16 are only two years apart and yet there’s still a massive performance difference, especially when it comes to missiles.
@@Bobspineable You're talking about the US vs Sweden which isn't a fair comparison at all, so no, your point doesn't stand. The US was always ahead everyone else with their technology during the cold war. That example has absolutely nothing to do with exponential performance growth and everything to do with the resources available to those respective countries.
I have a new nominee for greatest Def comment ever. "luckily it hit a plane and doesn't melts the steel beams" LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO
I always thought the SMT had stronger engines, so either my expectations were false & that was a later variant or Gaijin did an oopsie, either way it's sad how they massacred my boy!
Its un-real how many F16 players I still see complaining that their jet isn't good enough.
I am aware that every nation has players who are guilty of wanting their nation to curb stomp the rest, but in the most recent patches, it seems like America has been really bad about this. The fact they now have by far the best flight performance, the best or second best Fox 2, and are STILL finding stuff to complain about when some nations don't even have fourth gens is beyond me.
American mains are truly special indeed
@@thatoneguy1741thing is F-16 is in so many nations so it not just American being strong, it’s any nation with an F-16 will dominate.
It’s not just America, more like American vehicles as you can expect many American export vehicles to come. Just wait until we get a bunch of F-35s.
@@Bobspineable No plane under the sun can make American mains good at the game. F-35s would get gun killed regularly by MiG-21Bis
Probably because Gaijin added an F-16C-50. The most modern F-16 variant the US operates. Yet, it lacks probably it's most signature weapon, the AIM 120 AMRAAM.
Gaijin really shouldn't have added any jet from the 2000s yet, and stuck with jets from the 70s, 80s and 90s.
The problem is that even if gaijin gave the SMT the RD-33 V3 it wouldn't help, it barely increases thrust, they should've went with the MiG-29M or MiG-29K
the feddy fastbear definitely got me off guard
16:08 had me laughing my fucking ass off. Freddy Fazbeared by a mountain xD
Funnily enough I’ve noticed that the fog is client side. There have been a few games where I have fog and my squad mates don’t or vice versa.
LMAO that freddy Frazbear impression XDD
Bro that friendly fire at 0:17 smacked me on the ground lmao
The fazbear hur hur hur hur fuckin killed me 😂😂😂
15:46 also very real that happened to me when the update dropped i didnt now there was a lot of cloud maps and while i was flying i got jump scared by a mountain and instantly crashed
It can’t just be me but the hump makes the SMT feel like a ground attack variant for me at least
From what I’ve played so far honestly the f16c and Mig 29SMT are literally just the same additions as apex predators.
Want a insane flight performance with decent missles? - F16a or adf.
Want a decent flight performance with insane missles?- Mig 29.
These planes are pretty much split 50/50 as they were before and I welcome how they were added.
Tho I do wish the mig just wasn’t a 27ER slinger, it’s pretty level for the sake of balance.
That was my experience with the first 3-4 games with first jet premium experience with the F4 Brick.
1. Fly direct into a mountain within all clouds
2. Was shot down with more altitude from far away like no warning.
Its supposed to have better engines, and they even talked about that in the devblog. Good going Gaijin.
ok i thought it had better engines, guess gaijin somehow failed to buff it despite having 2 weeks to do so before launch...
It weighs more if I recall correctly.
@@Roguecjb well of course it does, but it should also see an increase in thrust like the f-16c did, which would even out the t:w ratio better and keep it relevant in dogfights
@@Ryzawa The f16' got their g limiter raised, I dont think the better performance is based on thrust.
@@Roguecjb flight performance is a combination of a lot of factors and thrust to weight ratio is absoutely one of them
This update sucks. I enjoyed having a MiG-29 with a good flight model way more than playing a brick with r73s
20 seconds in, and Defyn is already making comparisons 😂😂
Wasn't't Gaijin planning on fixing its flight model and giving it more AOA, or was I lied to?
Also, did the 9-12 mig 29 get its flightmodel changed like this? Or is it simply due to the extra weight of the SMT?
More AOA means LESS energy retention, so do you really want it?
I want more AOA, like real life, combined with better engines@@faq187tim9
More AoA would just lower it's sustained rate, doesn't it?
To be fair, that can be very easily fixed by any competent pilot by just not pulling as hard.@@faq187tim9
@@martijn9568 it wouldnt change the sustained rate at a corner speed it just means it can tap into its speed more for faster turns at the expense of energy.
Could just be placebo but
speaking of the Viggen(37C), now that the black hole is topped at 12.3, you get some more downtiers and it's actually pretty disgusting down there since you're back to fighting mig21s, phantoms
Lol I just gotta say, your deadpan sense of humor never ceases to make me laugh, keep up the good work mate.
Good thing we can get instant matched that still have mixed teams. Don't think i'll ever see nato v russia in air rb ever again.
mig29 was op one patch so gaijin thought its the f16's turn this time😅
Bs in my opinion
F for the last death. that was hillarious.
I found that currently 10.0 and up is just... so hard to play it is unbelievable.
F5e and f5c dominate 10.0, play those
what do you mean? I play 3 nations in Top Tier (US, USSR, France) and I'd get 3 - 4 kill games all the time. Top Tier is the most fun tier there is!
10.3 to 10.7 feels really good as long as you in us plane... F8E, F5C, F5E are just too good there. Mig21smt is also good at this br. Played jap F104j and F1 for some time. F104j is just a free frag without flares. F1 is decent but without flares... is also a food for aim9l and r60m when in wrong position for one single second.
@@zadow1011 I am grinding France, that is not an option
@@Reaver3214 I don't understand how you can get that many kills.
Ever since the update dropped, I am 0:25 in terms of kills and it is just not funny.
Its as if gaijin has got sick and tired of hearing crying about how "the mig 29 is so op". When in reality the mig 29 and f16 where somewhat well matched.
even more so than that, from 1v1 tests f16, if done right, cannot possibly lose
See how powerful the community is? They trolled Gaijin into nerfing the 29s so they could fly around launching smokeless 9Ms in their unrestricted F16s.
I was thinking the Mig29 is less good now and you come with a video.
If you think this thing is "worst at top tier" you've never even tried to fly a tornado
The whole 8.7-10.3 range needs serious work. I want to see sabres vs migs and early LA's again without missile vultures ruining the fun of jet dog fights.
I just wish there would be more balance. it feels like usa and ussr trade places as the dominant force every patch and other nations suffer for it. especially other nations that don’t have american or soviet planes. It would be way more fun if there was more variety and it wasn’t just the same 3-4 planes plus premium planes.
I would like this plane to receive a targeting pod like the PDLCT pod.
I remember an arcade game, we spawned into a cloud and there was a mountain just before us.
While I think the bad FM is exaggerated, it plays into Russian doctrine of the time of getting one really good high speed turn and using the R-73 and HMD to carry it through the fight back when HOBS missiles and HMD’s were far from standard.
gotta love when the AA systems are teamkilling now
teammates are enemies in blue. airfield aa took that to heart
I don't get why they didn't add the MiG-29S instead. It's a Soviet variant, so it would make more sense to add it first from a historical point of view. Its flight performance is better than the SMT too. It's basically just the 9-13, except it can pull a little more AOA.
that's because the 9.19 SMT can do CAS with guided weapons, and we all know that Gaijin prioritizes GroundRB over anything else (AirRB is likely to be the last in their list). There was no point on adding the SMT (neither the 16C Block 50)
@@IllustriousUnknown416I guess that's why we haven't the F-15 yet. Maybe Gaijin is going to skip the air to air Eagles, and jump straight to the F-15E Strike Eagle, which would be shame.
it only really makes sense to add the MiG-29S when we get Fox-3 missiles, as that is like the biggest difference to the standard 9.13
@@jonleg12312 wasn’t a preparation for Fox-3 that this patch was all about?? It was. The block 50 and the SMT got added because it is very likely that Fox-3s are coming until the end of the year (maybe next update), but instead of giving early 90s tech, they opted to add mid-2000s tech, making these machines CAS options. I don’t see the 29S coming as a tech tree anymore.
And I really don’t understand Gaijin’s fetiche with giving USSR these humpback variants. Both of them (21SMT and 29SMT) are very limited production variants. The 9.19 is not even used as a frontline fighter irl, all of them are in service with combat training units (since the MiG-35S were already planned to enter service with Russia when these SMT were retained by them. The last 29SMT to be delivered is from 2016)
@jonleg12312 I could say the same thing about the SMT. The 29S didn't get the R77 until later in life, though.
The f16s feel pretty good and I think they should remain as they are, but the migs need to pull more AOA than they currently do. The f16 irl out rates everything known to man. But the mig is better in the one circle. The smt does need better engines though. I agree there. I also don't know why they didn't give the f14B the 9m and move it to 12.3.
lol no, f16s are beyond overperforming right now, better AoA than mig 29 and mirage 2k even at near stall speeds.
@@manueldelbusto725well if you wanna use dcs as a gauge the F16 does indeed outdo anything in a rate fight (block 50) and is also surprisingly good one circle
The SMT didn't actually have any improved engine performance rather than just imorvef fuel efficency and longevity. But its flight model nerf was way too over the top even if it does have the best dog-fight missiles available
@@mrsteel250the f16 doesn't out rate anything in DCS stop dictating your opinion of off growling sidewinder
@@mrsteel250 never said it shouldn't be the best at 2 circle. Pulling AOA is quite the opposite from what a 2 circle fighter should be doing tho.
"MUh RuSsIan BiAs" US mains are probably still going to cry that the F-16 didn't AMRAAMs and Aim-9Xs.
Btw which one is worse rn? The SMT or the mirage F1C?
Hey at least the magic 2s got buffed.
I don't have a problem with the high speed loss - pulling 10Gs is gonna dump an insane amount of speed in any plane. I have a problem with fantasy flight models pulling 11-13Gs with ease and facilitating that speed dump with every turn. I'd rather have more accurate G loads so that planes stay faster without turning into something from Ace Combat. Gives older aircraft like the Phantom and MiG-21 a bit more of an edge too because they don't tend to exceed their G limits nearly as often.
But yea 7Gs dumping half your speed starting at nearly mach? BS
DEFYN you turned off your targeting computer! Don’t listen to the blue glowing old man about using the force
The mig 29 smt needs more flares the f16c has 120 I guess
The mig29 shits speed at a horrendous rate. It literally has zero energy retention dispite having an insane thrust to weight
Freddy Fazbear in a cloud 💀💀💀
7:56 the trajectory of the missile that missed is crazy
"quote on quote improved"
*has 4 R73's*
Yeah but it takes a hit to almost everything else, acceleration, top speed, energy retention, AoA
What do you think about new HE115 as air superiority fighter? :P
I love it when Defyn calls peoples piloting skills dogshit, when even they are a thousand leagues ahead of my piloting skills.
0:19 so about two, maybe three minutes?
16:00 top quality FNF music
Haha R-73 goes whoosh
Lacking in russia was a mistake had to get the mig23 pack so i can stop grinding with the 21smt. Frankly I actually enjoy the mig23 and the r24ts. Going from bvr to bfm against a high flying f14 and winning is rediculously satisfying.
16:08 is the quote of the day
15:11 Cloud gamer rage.exe
Mig-29SMT not able to dogfight F-16C is true to reality. Mig 29 S and SMT both cannot sustain 2 circle dogfight by its design. This is NOT a dogfighter! It is designed to be high altitude point-to-point interceptor. It out accelerates to reach a certain altitude, and with its speed, launches its arsenal of missiles, then turns to dive away. Extremely effective on its role, and considered as a primary air threat by NATO.
nato german pilots would like to disagree lmao
I'm watching and seeing his mig 29 have the performance of my yak 38m XD.
Defyn is right about the radar missiles these days. You have to mow the lawn in your top tier jets otherwise you get slammed from 12km away by a 27er or 7m. I want to play my jet like a jet. I'd play tanks if I wanted to mow the lawn. All of the radars in the game are too powerful and maintain lock on a chaffed notch too well.
Toptier not only has too many people, there's just too many people that tunnel vision on the first enemy they see. I rarely see any methodical gameplay, it's mostly just rushing in to get targets and kills ASAP. No wonder though when probably the majority of people by now got there through endless premium base bombing
Yeah, I hate being freddy fazbered by mountains as well
Step Mig Im Stuck
that energy bleed hurts to watch... guess I'll grind the F-16C instead of the MiG-29 first
Defyn: This plane might have the worst flight model at top tier right now
Tornado:
1 br away from top tier
tornado is not top tier
Tornado is no top 😂
Not technically top tier but 12.3 isnt gonna get an uptier, so tornado is de facto fighting with and against top tiers.
@@cheekibreeki4638 Neither technically nor theoretically nor in any other way is tornado top tier, and 12.3 not getting uptiers does not matter here.
I get the unpleasantness with the weak engines. I agree they need buffed some. Losing to F-16s in a dogfight thought. I can't complain. 29 has better standoff and IR missles. F-16 has better dogfight capability. That in and of itself is balance. I fly both sides and enjoy both equally. I prefer to fly the F-16 because it is my favorite of all time IRL. Though as I fly in Sim my opinion is only worth so much here. TarnsmanOzz is my game name if some want to check before spouting something off the cuff here. o7 Great video, Defyn. Keep up the good work.
So now russian mains get to be slammed for a patch :) All jokes aside tho i hate that each patch its one nation that is way better than the other, genuine balance is all the player base really wants and there are so many ways gaijin could do that
Too be fair they have the best missiles in the game. russian planes are known to lose speed for maneuverability, Su-27, MiG29. The F16 is one of the best dogfighters out there anyway.
@@matte_the_ranger9 to 10 months? My guy what are you smoking?
I came to the conclusion that the game will never change, it'll be always be like the way you said "each patch its one nation that is way better than the other", i got very sad today because the mig29 was my favourite aircraft and now it turns like a brick and i'm talking about the old ones, it completely discouraged me from getting the SMT. Idc if the missiles are good, nobody asked for the r27er, everybody knows that the fulcrum isn't supposed to be good bvr-wise, i just wanted the plane to be like how it should be.
16:07 got me good 😂
These planes just shouldn’t be here this early, in the future it’s going to have a much higher br no doubt with all the other active radar missile carrier platforms
i hate the mountain fog on pyrennes, when im in a sabre going anything above 800km/h i cant dodge anything
I guess this due to "balancing" with almost unavoidable R-73 so this basically the way i presume
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