Last-gen GPUs are the META.
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So basically the strategy to get rid of old stock by pricing the new insanely is working.
Exactly, that's why new gen's price go up exactly as performance go up. If it was better, no way people will buy last gen
Yea this will work with that generation. Cant imagine the next generation at 3k msrp
The media (including this channel) aren't helping. The advice to consumer should not be "buy last gen", it should be "DON"T BUY ANYTHING AND BOYCOTT THE FUCKERS". This duopoly can only stop when people vote with their wallet and force them to lose revenue enough to reconsider their strategy.
@@zxbc1 They’re just GPUs man. It’s not that deep. Buy them and play games. lol
@@zxbc1 wow no shit sherlock 🤯🤓
Consumers can never win, people now are buying last-gen GPUs for their originally intended MSRP while they're 2-3 years old with the new offerings being marked up, so really Nvidia is winning either way.
Why not buy AMD? Their offerings are all below MSRP in my region
So this. Consumers kinda bring it on themselves
Millions of crypto cards will be dumped on market and desktop gaming market is shrinking, also many new cards coming to market, we are in the biggest recession the world has ever seen. How on earth are cards selling for these prices?
They don't
@@Rasyad95 Yes, AMD is the way to go for gaming usage.
this guy's video is better than my eyesight
Also better then mines & I wear glasses 🤦🏾🤷🏾
:( I just got glasses I avoided them for long time and now I have - 2 in both
@@spookyskellyskeleton609 this is so sad can we get 10 likes?
@@spookyskellyskeleton609 but u can see now
@@sql64 it just mild near sightedness, but still i wish i cared more for my eyes
‘These GPUs didn’t suddenly get slower when the 40 series came out’
don’t be giving Nvidia any ideas
Thanks for including german pricing! Really appreciate that you are not just looking at USD for these videos line so many other RUclipsrs
Caseking isn't the best site for prices though
@@DatBaataR Yes, Mindfactory normaly has the lowest prices in germany.
@@buttergolem8584I’ll keep that in mind for the future 👍
@@optimumtech But Mindfactory also misses some brands like Asus because they won't sell this cheap.
Yes I loved that as well. However in Germany you can easily get the 6950xt for around 850€ so when the 6800xt is at 1000€ at caseking that doesn’t really make sense for anyone to buy.
WOAH prices are ALMOST at MSRP, dayummmmmm that's a deal!!
I can't even imagine someone saying that 3 years ago lol, these prices are ok at best it's just the 40 series prices that suck so much
"Below msrp in some cases" Now that's not extremely good, 2 years old + gen old tech going for MSRP is most sh*t value I have ever seen.
Exactly. Slightly above/slightly below MSRP nearly 3 years after release is some ole dogshit value.
Even the 1050Ti is going for similar prices to what it did in 2016...
@@DuBstep115 "msrp" is irrelevant. context matters.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j optimum tech himself referenced msrp, just continued the trend
I don't think retail prices being just below msrp for last gen is good enough. Nvidia has been driving prices up for all their Skus for the last 3 generations now. Nvidia now plans on keeping the mid range from last gen around this time and pushing back the improvements as far as they can to milk the most popular price bracket. Remember when 1060 and 960 were below 300 bucks?
The only option I support is buying used at least Nvidia is not getting the money and is better for the environment.
Exactly, mid range for £700 isnt good. It should be £500 max. Hell I remember when mid range cards were £250.
@@morpheus9137 AMD cards are
This is true, absolutely.
Artificial inflation for vested interests.
@@morpheus9137 mid range for 500 is not great either.
@@Wobbothe3rd This is incorrect. Components did not go up THIS far. The 4090 is only $100 more expensive than the 3090 Ti, but the 4080 is $500 more than the 3080. See what I mean? It's blatant price manipulation (which we know because that internal message to investors was leaked). In reality the 4080 should likely cost around what the 7900XT costs, with an eventual Ti model appearing at $1200.
The jump from $700 to $900 would be upsetting, but then the component cost argument would hold SOME water.
"Below msrp in some cases" Now that's not extremely good, 2 years old + gen old tech going for MSRP is most sh*t value I have ever seen.
Prices need to drop 20% across the board.
@@morpheus9137 I bought gtx 1080 back in 2017, thats 1 year after release and I got it 30% below msrp. Since 2 years have passed and new gen is out, 3080 should be worth 399€ at best.
it's sad to see midrange and lower-end cards at $400-500 being considered "good deals"
but i guess it means people are buying them at these prices
Most of these "midrange" cards can do 1440 and 4k with ease.
feel like people use the term mid range and low end way too loosely nowadays for pc components in regards to gaming
Actually they are around 200 to 350. Unless you are talking about 3070/6700xt and up which i wouldn't really consider mid range.
@@andrewgreen8383 definently
Shut the fuck up I got my 3080 for 1.2k usd
RX 6900XT for $600 is hard to beat
That is pretty sweet.
6700xt prices are pretty good in germany now.
I got my 6750xt für 418 Euro, two weeks ago.
The 6700xt is around 450 Euro right now.
Really nice card for 1440p.
what store bro ?
I dont care through. Its 2 year old hardware in some cases. MSRP inflated launch prices, and first now they are becoming what they should had been on launch. Is it just me thats tired of the thought of giving that much money for 2 year old stuff? Not even LG oled TVs or some other hot commodity item kept that prices that much as GPUs.
@@Djuntas Something being old doesn't make something worth not buying. Price is what matters. Just because 4060 will be new doesn't make it better purchase if it costs 600 and performs like 3070
@@Gam3playsCZ mindfactory
@@Djuntas Agreed all 2020 cards should be 20% below MSRP by now. Give it another 6 months and they will be.
No they aren't. Don't fall into Nvidia's plan... They're old and overpriced to buy brand new, Buy 2nd hand instead!
6800xt cards can be found for low $500s. I think some have stated there were coupon codes to bring it sub 500 in some cases. Same can be said for the 6900xt cards. They can be found low $600s and even just under. Not bad relatively speaking
Yes this best card for money right now.
US prices look ok, europe prices are still terrible.
6800XT are still about 600 to 800 euros in Europe.
I got 6900xt at $500. I found 6800xt for $425
@@morpheus9137 We need Intel to be kicking ass like yesterday. This market pricing will never improve with just 2 companies.
I bought an ex mining 3070 for $280 and it looks brand new. Huge upgrade from my 1050ti. Hoping for many good years ahead with it!
Where you buy it at?
Pick up used Evga 3070 FTW3 for $360 about two weeks ago. Same came in pristine condition. No damage, burn mark or even dust on it. Hell even the protective plastic film on Evga logo weren't removed yet lol.
@@BronislawStark where at?
@@mantid83 my country > Malaysia. Saw the guy advertised tge gpu on fb group.
It looks brand new because they power washed it.
People, don't buy rtx 3000 series cards, they are not cheap at all. They are still at their launch prices. Nvidia made 4080 so expensive to force you buy them at those high prices. Just don't buy. They will have to lower prices. But if you buy them, then you are hopeless.
The sad reality too is, most people will not even consider AMD (Yeah I get it, in almost all fronts that gamers care about, amd is inferior)
No matter the topic, you know Optimum will have the best B-Roll and crisp video
legit
this is what nvdia wanted people to buy old gpu for msrp while pricing new gpu insanely high. you are helping nvdia with this video.
guess what, prices are not getting better anyway... in EU rtx 4090 is sold out going for 2500 euro, so we are doomed for pretty long distance.
@@Chrontardwtf...
Are these companies buying their shit back
almost like supply and demand exists. Crazzyyyyy
I really appreciate the regional pricing graphs. Even Hardware Unboxed doesn't include Australian pricing most of the time!
HU make most of their money from the US, so that is their interest.
I’m surprised to see you here, but I guess it makes sense
But...but...monke brain says bigger number better
Thank you so much for including EU prices. EVERYONE always ignores EU pricing and talks how US prices are insanely low etc while in the EU its completely opposite.
Same thing with Australia too. Previous gen cards might be somewhat ok on price but the new stuff is way above the US pricing even when converted and added tax.
@@WyattOShea Same with the UK. For years you kinda knew what 1USD == 1GBP, not any more
@@djashjones 1usd has never been equal to 1 gbp. You are forgetting tax. In fact only recently usd got even close to equalling bpound
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j 1 to 1 when factoring in VAT.
Thanks for showing the price graphs for folks around the world and not just America!
Or you know we could just wait for amd stuff to come out and get reviewed before deciding the last gen stuff is exciting
UK pricing is not exciting at all, easier to throw an extra £150 and wait 20 days.
You clearly didn't watch the video lmao. That's exactly what he said.
This is fax. Got mine 6800XT for 300$ flat and the value has never been better
Dude it's wild, not on YT much anymore but I remember following you when you were around 25k subs, insane to see how far you've come. Well deserved and congrats!!
Yep so happy with my 3080 FE. Going for full custom loop and it’s so fun. Your water cooling videos have helped so much planning the loop.
You won't be disappointed. Running max settings on anything on my 1440p monitor. Water-cooled 3080 FE. Sadly there's no Heatkiller or AquaComputer blocks for the FE, but the EK version is quite excellent.
Hey Ali. Appreciate you adding to Euro pricing in there :)
“How many of you ‘actually’ are playing at 4K with maxed settings right now?”
Uhhh, that’s kind of like WHY we want to buy the new ones, because last gen can’t do it as well. Cmon now.
I think it's a crime you didn't include the 6900xt on this list. It is currently going for $670 which is insane for the power you get. By far the best value card right now.
Said the same. Got it for £550, so even better.
If you can't play cyberpunk at 4k with max settings at least with 45 fps money spent for less is not usefull. I think DLSS 3 and FSR 3.0 will be VERY VERY important in the upcoming years for the insane grafics like Unreal Engine 5.1
Still rocking my 3060 Ti since 2020. It can still play games. I have the luxury to wait what AMD and Nvidia will release at the midrange.
Lol I’m still rocking my evga gtx 1070ti, the only thing I haven’t upgraded
You the real MVP
Still rocking my 400$ PS4 since 2013. It can still play games.
You're saying as if its an old af weak card. 3060ti will be perfectly capable for at least 4 mlre years
@@Miha-ii3dy You the man!
i have to say, the shown prices for the EU market are kinda off here
for the 6700XT for example its up to over 100€ difference from your chart..
just wanted to mention it, interesting video never the less
@David Bergner well, that would be horrible 😅
I actually meant lower 👍
bought an EVGA 3080 for $600... I'd definitely recommend 3070/3080
With machine learning collecting more data it’s cool to see different DLSS’s, I think the process is getting faster that’s why we see major improvements like 2x frames, also modern warfare 2 settings states it’s machine learning, like wow
me buying no longer in production 2080 ti for 400$ to over clock and over take 3070 in performance while not doing what nvidia wants me to do
This is exactly what Nvidia wants you to do. By the 4090 or get rid of their huge influx of 3000 series cards
I'm exactly the edge case you mentioned (4k120Hz display, max settings) and even then cyberpunk is the one game that demands an upgrade from my 3090
same i want to play spiderman+RDR2 at 4k 120hz!
"How many of you play maxed out?" can be laid out this way.
Most games : You can't tell the difference between Ultra and High when you're focused on not crashing in Forza instead of oggling the paint or realistic render or trying to not die in CoD, let alone trying to achieve some objective.
Total War games : Ultra and Extreme at least makes the battle look bigger than just two Earls arguing about something during the Dark Ages. However, looking like two Earls arguing about something might be the only alternative to playing the Siege of The Stuttering and Crashing Walls.
Just got Rx 6750 XT 2 weeks ago from AMD direct store for $403 CAD ($293 USD at the time)
for europe don't use caseking, use geizhals, it's an aggregator.
I think AMD has the only viable strategy in the long run (price above performance). The flagship will matter less and less when you already have overkill performance for 4k.
4k is all anyone needs!
Let them all rot on shelves because much of the MSRP prices were set based on inflated mining prices, the only ones i'd be buying is the 3080 at $550-$600(new), the 3050 should be at or around $190 at this point, and the 3060 12GB should be around $280 at this point.
Exactly what Nvidia wants, is to clear that inventory
You know, even 3 generations back hardware will run all the games if you play at 1080p or less. Just don’t chase 4K. It’s not really all that noticeable. I mean look at the steam deck.
I’m hyped for some next gen pc builds
Here is another thing, better graphics while not running it max would also mean lower temp and lomger lifespan
How is "slightly below MSRP" for a 2 year old GPU exciting?
There is no huge price drops, and won't be as long as you buy them at those prices. I checked this guy's amazon link, price for just an rtx 3070 was €900. Just atrocious.
gpu prices are going up here in norway
I'm actually hoping amd outperforms price to performance this year. I always preferred Nvidia. But at this point it's a $200 name tag. Kinda like Razer
🧙🏻♂ PS5.
@@meldmagic you mean that trash hardware that needs exclusives to be sold? Without exclusives xbox would outsell anything.
I want to know what I won’t be able to play with lower/mid-tier cards. Being able to play pretty much everything is great, but I would love to know what I’d be missing out on for an extra couple hundred bucks. Great vid!
Legitimately asking; but can we really call them “fake frames” if they are actually smoothing out gameplay?
I bought mine rtx 3080 10gb used for around 550 euro. I just replaced paste and pads and it runs better than I need.
Used GPUs have so great value right now.
This has been the game for years. From r5 2600 to 5600x and 2060s to 3060ti for net 100 bucks when selling the old stuff.
In my opinion, ultra is DUMB, medium to high settings is what we should be being informed about.
6900 xt at 650$, or ideally below that, is where it is at
Bicep getting bigger and bigger each video 😂
My 1440p monitor performs best from 120hz to 165hz. Anything around 100hz and below introduces ghosting with certain movements. I can dial down the details to get my required fps but I want high settings at least for the nicest graphics.
My R5 3500x and GTX 1660S are more than enough to enjoy CSGO and battlefield 1 at high
I still play on 1080p, and only plan to upgrade to 1440p. On top of that I don't really use DLSS and Ray Tracing, so yeah last gen(RTX3000 series or Radeon 6000 series) will be plenty enough of an upgrade for me, compared to what I got now, and will last me for years.
The problem with AMD Is that whilst their core performance is great, they have neglected to develop addon technologies such as temporal upscaling and their ray tracing methodology is much less efficient compared to Nvidia.
Their lower price reflects less demand.
Ray-tracing makes so much difference, even on Minecraft. You cannot be more correct.
Nobody really cares about early tracing and FSR2.0 is out there for everyone....
They literally have FSR 2.2 released recently and FSR 3.0 announced. How are they NOT developing temporal upscaling tech?
@@raresmacovei8382 also, if we do consider FSR 2.0, we also have to address the inefficiency. FSR uses standard Cuda cores, which means that running it uses up processing power that could be otherwise dedicated to rendering. It is very inefficient compared to using tensor cores and in this respect FSR 2.0 is even behind intel alchemist (which for all of its flaws utilises dedicated "XMX" tensor cores).
@@JimIBobIJonesCUDA cores are NVIDIA only, you meant Stream Processors.
The "performance hit" is nowhere near as bad as you claim.
Yup, RTX3070 FTW!!!! BTW, we NEED an Optimum Tech Studio Tour man!
4090 +4k oled ftw 👌
Sadly I'm Italy you can barely buy cards and they are still above the MSRP. The 3080 is always out of stock at €950+ which is stupid considering it's 2 years old
Nah I'm still keeping the 1080ti legendary card love it so much
1060 gang running strong till this day.
I love your takes. Between your channel and GGF for PC builds, I literally watch nothing else related to PC hardware. THANKS FOR UPLOADING!!
Nice new set Ali!
Thank you for not just looking to US market and include Europe!
the whole gpu world is honestly so screwed how is "sometimes under MSRP" for a 2 year old card EXTREAMLY GOOD?
Where did you get that staggered wall behind you? I've been looking all over for something like that
Almost no GPU at the moment is good value and it's funny looking at that 4080 sitting next to the 3080, both cards draw about the same power but we're expected to foot the bill for an over spec'd cooler on the 4080.
same .... ppl shud buy their GPUs in 2nd yr of launches
"extremely good" "SOMETIMES below sub retail price" in the same sentence for last gen cards lmao we really are fucked aren't we
oh god they're part of the metaverse get it away from me
8 months ago I copped a 3090 at 750 USD and gave my old 1080ti to my friend. previous gen savings in used markets are just peak savings sometimes.
My strix 1080Ti, after 4 years, still impresses me on my 1440p 165Hz monitor.
How long i can play games if i buy ryzen 7 5800x3d and RX 6800xt on 1080p, is it worth?
That’s OP for 1080.
What do you mean "are the META"? The definition of META is "referring to itself or to the conventions of its genre; self-referential." How does META apply in this context?
I had to look it up. " Most Effective Tactics Available ". Must be some kid speak, Same as adding "Super" to everything.
That's the point. Nvidia wants to get rid of the 3000 stocks.
Feel so glad I bought the 3060ti on release day and even made some money back with mining when I wasn't gaming
Are you going to review the new fractal itx case?
There's weird artifacts in slideshow backgrounds watching at 1080p. Kind of irritating.
Price is extremely good "below MSRP in some cases". How is that good for last gen products to be almost at MSRP???
ONLY cards that are somewhat normal price right now, at least in europe, and worth buying, are the 3090s. Same price with 3080s (!), double memory, +performance. Great for CC.
I disagre about EU prices, is it avarage? now i'm in Spain - Powercolor Radeon RX 6800 XT Red Dragon 16GB GDDR6 - 679 euros, Sapphire Radeon RX 6800 XT Nitro+ - 800 euros, far from 999 on the grpah
With Nvidias lack of discounts there is simply too much sales on 6800XT, 6900XT and 6950XTs to ignore. According to HUB 6950XT gets more FPS at 1080p low than 4090 while paired with 13900k in WZ2. I got myself 4090 even if its price is sad the temps, noise and performance is great. Playing mw2 4k low over 200FPS with 5800X3D.
Hey man that’s good for you. Hope you enjoy that 4090
thumbs up, i liked that you compare the prices in different regions that other people only focus in usa au or eu well done on this part, i am gonna wait 1 month ish here in eu thinks come slower then usa or other regions and upgrade my rig then, cheers
Last gen you say? My gtx 1070 can still play latest games at 1080p Med to high settings.
hair is getting longer.. still the best detailed reviewer channel in youtube
just saying, anyone who is down for ex mining cards, 3080s go for ~$550 USD on ebay.
Brand new 3090 for 700CAD for me was an amazing buy. I play at 1440p and it seems to be going really strong.
Where the hell did you find one for that cheap? They're all over 1k everywhere I've looked.
@@Skrenja Bought mine new CIB on EBay for 900 USD
AMD Direct was selling the 6750XT for 300$ it was an insane deal lol
running the rx6750xt. getting consistent capped 165 fps on mw2 and cold war. thats literally all I need
3 more weeks. I'm holding out for the Radeon 7000 series then I will make my decision.
love the vibe of your videos!
Previous gen = mid/low end this gen
woah ! an honest youtuber talking some honest shit. bravo
Nice haircut bro!
I have 4k 240hz monitor. I use medium settings and achieve 200 plus fps for most of the games. It's really enjoyable.
Pretty happy with my used 6700xt Strix for 320€, gaming at 1440p. Fans don't even spin most of the time with the silent bios.
your video are so well done like the transition and the way you show things
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4:45 I wouldn't call that chart accurate since you can buy the RX 6900 XT for less than 800€ or even 700€ at many places like mindfactory