@@observantmagic4156 After all it's just a way to get from A to B quickly. Sitting in a chair for a fee hours isn't exactly much of a problem for people lol
Designer: Slimmer seats for more leg room! Air company: Cool, I'll squeeze the seats and add an extra row! Designer: Stacked seats for flat bed in economy! Air company: Cool, another feature for extra charge!
For everyone who claims airline might just add more seats: I am a logistician with major in air traffic and aviation transport. Adding more seats to the aircraft is not impossible, however we have to bear in mind that additional passengers is equivalent to more weight. An aircraft is only capable of a certain MTOW, installing more seats mean that the TOW is higher than limited, or it might causes spill, bear in mind there will always be some no show passengers. On the other hand, an aircraft equipped with these seats will definitely save some weight, that saved weight can go to more seats and more passengers, although that might not be necessary or possible. A lighter seat might save a few kg, but to install a new seat and having a additional passenger onboard will add at least another 60kg(assuming they are adults) Additionally, it might even be a advantage for the airline to install lighter seats but keep the same numberof them(depends on the RPK for a specific route), because less weight means less power is required, and less power is required means less fuel is needed, finally, less fuel is needed means lower unit cost eventually higher yield. Lastly, it is definitely positive for an airline to have a high ASK, however, it would not be profitable if ASK is higher than RPK, in this case more seats than necessary or allowed.
LOL! Dude, have you been paying attention? They keep installing more seats and reducing seat pitch. If you are a logistician then you are fully aware of the cargo capacity in addition to the passenger capacity. A 767-300ER flying from SEA to LHR needs about 130,000 pounds of fuel to carry 235 passengers... and 30,000 pounds of cargo. Airlines use a figure of 190 pounds per passenger in the summer, or 195 in the winter. So call it 200. Economy seats weigh 74-82 pounds. For simplicity let's call it 100. So passenger and seat is 300 pounds. So I can convert that 30,000 pounds of cargo into 100 passengers. Which is all going in economy, which would be more than a 50% increase. I would be reducing ultimate range, because the 767-300ER has a maximum fuel capacity of 161,000 pounds, but for most operators they aren't going more than 4,500 nm anyway. And then there's the history of airlines reducing seat pitch.
Id rather have my knee touch the chair in front of me if i could recline more or it the butt and back pads where softer like they used to be back mid 2000's
looking at those seat ideas, for long haul I am surprised no one has proposed morgue style "filing cabinets" All you need is a general anesthetic. Would also save on catering and IFE.
Perhaps we have a morgue area and seat area, basically we can have a beds for everyone and limited number of seats for passengers to leave their seat and take turns eating on.
As long as I'm asleep! For most people the best possible flight is one where they sleep through the whole thing. It says a lot for airlines that they offer a 'product' that most people don't want to experience.
The reality is safety has improved significantly but comfort has decreased at an alarming rate. There really isn't a lot of magic to it. The industry is very competitive and the profits are very thin. People mostly care about cost, so the status quo will keep going and may even get worse. A breakthrough that may change all that is a significant reduction in costs for the airlines that will allow them to spend more on comfort. Until then , I don't expect a significant change.
If they built slider wider planes like that (I think Boeing) concept, they'd use the lifting body to reduce fuel consumption etc and would have wider seats etc. Problem solved for us poor folk.
airlines are so archaic in their thinking that an a320 will significantly save money by decreasing overall weight by 150kg...two overweight passengers add twice that. My wife's carry on alone even more. Airlines are so focused on tiny numbers they've forgotten about the service and customer experience
It's always an eye opening experience to watch a Sam Chui report. I have to say that the Perrone rep describing the synthetic leather was impressive. Maybe he isn't an engineer, just a talking head, but he knows his product!! 👏 And if those ink-cleaning wipes ever go public, I am ordering a crate. Brilliant! Thanks, Sam. 👍🏻👍🏻
I am a logistician with major in air traffic and aviation transport. Not sure if you are being serious or sarcastic. Adding more seats to the aircraft is not impossible, however we have to bear in mind that additional passengers is equivalent to more weight. An aircraft is only capable of a certain MTOW, installing more seats mean that the TOW is higher than limited, or it might causes spill, bear in mind there will always be some no show passengers. On the other hand, an aircraft equipped with these seats will definitely save some weight, that saved weight can go to more seats and more passengers, although that might not be necessary or possible. A lighter seat might save a few kg, but to install a new seat and having a additional passenger onboard will add at least another 60kg(assuming they are adults) Additionally, it might even be a advantage for the airline to install lighter seats but keep the same numberof them(depends on the RPK for a specific route), because less weight means less power is required, and less power is required means less fuel is needed, finally, less fuel is needed means lower unit cost eventually higher yield. Lastly, it is definitely positive for an airline to have a high ASK, however, it would not be profitable if ASK is higher than RPK, in this case more seats than necessary or allowed. Kind regards Garry
@@1mol831 Yes I did lol, because I basically answered the same question/countered the same opinion. It would be time-consuming to write similar stuffs twice haha. Our education belongs to quantitative analysis, so we just learn to copy the same thing if that could be the answer for different questions.( As long as it isn’t plagiarism) Have a nice day Garry
@@GarryWan666 That's called an appeal to authority and doesn't automatically mean you're right. Some people have made some critical remarks on your copy and paste comment, which seems to be a quite shallow analysis and you haven't addressed them at all. Until then I don't see any validity in any of your claims.
The design ideas for the airplane seats are a no for me. But everything else I like. Like the flight attendant uniforms look fashionable. And they might look elegant on the flight attendants using them. The material for the seats, etc not bad. And also the recycled furniture. The style is unique. And very resourceful to have the internet. Especially, on long flights. And the tags were adorable. Lastly, the vast knowledge of what takes to make up inside a general airplane.
*Major airlines, such as, Emirates, Ettihad, Qatar, Gulf, Saudi Arabian, Royal Jordanian, Turkish, British Airways, Virgin Atlantic, Al Italia, Air Afloat, Iberia, Luthansa, KLM, SAS, SWISS, Malaysian, Thai, Singapore, JAL, Korean, etc, should design their economy class seats just like business class seats which can be flattened specially in long flights. The price for each tickets in such flights should be somewhere between regular economy and business class ticket price.*
On the 2 level seats. Some of the sleeping cars in North America called "duplex" by Budd/Pullman have something that could make it to business class. the lower romette has the bed that is stored under the next roomette during day, and pull out of wall at night. The "high" roomette has its bed vertical during day and flips down at night. The roomettes are staggered , not over each other. But thety can squeeze more in because the feet on bed on lowwer roomette are under the floor of the upper roomette. Yet the 2 are fully separate. The concept you showed in video would have challenges for seat betls (need to be seated in upright position) as well as the emergeney oxygen and lighting. And couldn't block emergency exist.
Great insight Sam as to what we can expect on our in flight experience in the future as technology truly takes hold and elevates aviation to another level. Love the table BTW 👍👍
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Has this new seating configuration design passed safety scrutiny? It's chaotic enough to evacuate everyone in a dark messy situation when everyone is sitting at the same level. Now you've got passengers who have to climb or jump down and potentially land on top of somebody in the midst of a chaos.
Coolest thing in the video that really piqued my interest was bluetooth headphone connectivity. That will be a real game changer. Always prefer to use my own noise cancelling headphones but never remember to bring the right cables, in flight ones are always horrible quality
The best one is the economy class lay flat. I think it should be mandatory to have a lay-flat seats for any flights over eight hours. Business class tickets are too expensive. I will happily pay a little more for the economy class lay flat seat with economy meal service. I will even compromise on not bringing my carry on bag on board if needed!
The only thing I really need when flying .. reaching the destination safely and peacefully .. no disturbing by maniac or drunk passengers .. may be with a little bit of smile from the flight attendants.
These slim plastic seat are extremely uncomfortable to sit in I have experienced on a 2.5 hour flight and the left me unable to walk properly. I do have a spinal injury the moulded seat space has no give in it and was putting pressure on the metal in my spine The padding us to thin I put a final complaint into the operator along with many other passenger these seat where removed. On any flight over 50 mins The short arm rest proved zero support for people These seat areca health issue
Hey Sam, if you like that table, check out a company called "Moto-art". They make all kinds of furniture out of aircraft parts from the Mohave boneyard.
As for the double deck seats I cannot see an airline ever using them and being compliant with evacuation standards.
True also its like.more of a privacy concern for the seats next to the window from upper deck seats
I can't imagine sitting like that it's so claustrophobic
what if the person above them farts?
@@mikebryan7077 my exact question 💀
They will change standards and deregulate
When you think plane seats can’t get more uncomfortable and cramped than they are now ,these guys find a way to do it. 🤦🏻♂️
@Netya peca Sorry, this is not the type of place to advertise your suspicious looking links
And just imagine all those farts right in your face in that double-decker design...
Well there is always premium economy, which is technically the same quality of economy class around 10 years ago.
It’s all about money. Airlines are giving us cramped seats because passengers are willing to endure it in exchange for cheap tickets.
@@observantmagic4156
After all it's just a way to get from A to B quickly. Sitting in a chair for a fee hours isn't exactly much of a problem for people lol
Designer: Slimmer seats for more leg room!
Air company: Cool, I'll squeeze the seats and add an extra row!
Designer: Stacked seats for flat bed in economy!
Air company: Cool, another feature for extra charge!
Las líneas aéreas son un negocio no hermanas de la caridad, la mayoría de las personas opinan sin tener la menor idea de lo que es manejar un negocio.
Airbus 380 was meant for more legroom, but the airlines changed it and added more seats.
@@neilmenon8943 yeah, because A380 operational cost is expensive
I thought the exact same thing😂
And everything connects and leads to anwer: $
For everyone who claims airline might just add more seats:
I am a logistician with major in air traffic and aviation transport. Adding more seats to the aircraft is not impossible, however we have to bear in mind that additional passengers is equivalent to more weight. An aircraft is only capable of a certain MTOW, installing more seats mean that the TOW is higher than limited, or it might causes spill, bear in mind there will always be some no show passengers.
On the other hand, an aircraft equipped with these seats will definitely save some weight, that saved weight can go to more seats and more passengers, although that might not be necessary or possible. A lighter seat might save a few kg, but to install a new seat and having a additional passenger onboard will add at least another 60kg(assuming they are adults)
Additionally, it might even be a advantage for the airline to install lighter seats but keep the same numberof them(depends on the RPK for a specific route), because less weight means less power is required, and less power is required means less fuel is needed, finally, less fuel is needed means lower unit cost eventually higher yield.
Lastly, it is definitely positive for an airline to have a high ASK, however, it would not be profitable if ASK is higher than RPK, in this case more seats than necessary or allowed.
LOL! Dude, have you been paying attention? They keep installing more seats and reducing seat pitch. If you are a logistician then you are fully aware of the cargo capacity in addition to the passenger capacity. A 767-300ER flying from SEA to LHR needs about 130,000 pounds of fuel to carry 235 passengers... and 30,000 pounds of cargo. Airlines use a figure of 190 pounds per passenger in the summer, or 195 in the winter. So call it 200. Economy seats weigh 74-82 pounds. For simplicity let's call it 100. So passenger and seat is 300 pounds. So I can convert that 30,000 pounds of cargo into 100 passengers. Which is all going in economy, which would be more than a 50% increase. I would be reducing ultimate range, because the 767-300ER has a maximum fuel capacity of 161,000 pounds, but for most operators they aren't going more than 4,500 nm anyway. And then there's the history of airlines reducing seat pitch.
1. Nobody asked you bro, you ain’t cool
2. If you were an actual logistician, you would know better (the first reply says it best)
🤓🤓🤓yap yap yap
I really hope those seats never enter the Aviation market, I don’t need seats to get narrower and narrower
But the legroom is still pretty descent.
Trust me after flying on an American Airlines 777 seat, seat Ergonomics matter!
@@skyeye787 US carriers really sucks, trust me.
My broken tail bone could never
Id rather have my knee touch the chair in front of me if i could recline more or it the butt and back pads where softer like they used to be back mid 2000's
looking at those seat ideas, for long haul I am surprised no one has proposed morgue style "filing cabinets"
All you need is a general anesthetic.
Would also save on catering and IFE.
Would be problematic in case of an evacuation.
There are times that I have travelled where I would have happily paid to be knocked out and put in the hold and woken on arrival!
TBH, I'd happily lay in a morgue drawer on a plane, I suffer so much on long flights from sitting still.
Perhaps we have a morgue area and seat area, basically we can have a beds for everyone and limited number of seats for passengers to leave their seat and take turns eating on.
As long as I'm asleep! For most people the best possible flight is one where they sleep through the whole thing. It says a lot for airlines that they offer a 'product' that most people don't want to experience.
Just think of all the lovely fluids that would drip/splat/ooze on you as you sit in the bottom row of that double decker set up!
The reality is safety has improved significantly but comfort has decreased at an alarming rate. There really isn't a lot of magic to it. The industry is very competitive and the profits are very thin. People mostly care about cost, so the status quo will keep going and may even get worse. A breakthrough that may change all that is a significant reduction in costs for the airlines that will allow them to spend more on comfort. Until then , I don't expect a significant change.
If they built slider wider planes like that (I think Boeing) concept, they'd use the lifting body to reduce fuel consumption etc and would have wider seats etc. Problem solved for us poor folk.
This is a good example of inflight experience. The explanation is spot on. Quite accurate
Sam’s drawing of a heart is just gold!
airlines are so archaic in their thinking that an a320 will significantly save money by decreasing overall weight by 150kg...two overweight passengers add twice that. My wife's carry on alone even more. Airlines are so focused on tiny numbers they've forgotten about the service and customer experience
It's always an eye opening experience to watch a Sam Chui report. I have to say that the Perrone rep describing the synthetic leather was impressive. Maybe he isn't an engineer, just a talking head, but he knows his product!! 👏 And if those ink-cleaning wipes ever go public, I am ordering a crate. Brilliant! Thanks, Sam. 👍🏻👍🏻
1:19 Well, this would be beneficial for the airlines as they will add up more rows by cramping the distance between the seat in rows.
I am a logistician with major in air traffic and aviation transport. Not sure if you are being serious or sarcastic. Adding more seats to the aircraft is not impossible, however we have to bear in mind that additional passengers is equivalent to more weight. An aircraft is only capable of a certain MTOW, installing more seats mean that the TOW is higher than limited, or it might causes spill, bear in mind there will always be some no show passengers.
On the other hand, an aircraft equipped with these seats will definitely save some weight, that saved weight can go to more seats and more passengers, although that might not be necessary or possible. A lighter seat might save a few kg, but to install a new seat and having a additional passenger onboard will add at least another 60kg(assuming they are adults)
Additionally, it might even be a advantage for the airline to install lighter seats but keep the same numberof them(depends on the RPK for a specific route), because less weight means less power is required, and less power is required means less fuel is needed, finally, less fuel is needed means lower unit cost eventually higher yield.
Lastly, it is definitely positive for an airline to have a high ASK, however, it would not be profitable if ASK is higher than RPK, in this case more seats than necessary or allowed.
Kind regards
Garry
@@GarryWan666 you copy and pasted the comment lol
@@1mol831 Yes I did lol, because I basically answered the same question/countered the same opinion. It would be time-consuming to write similar stuffs twice haha.
Our education belongs to quantitative analysis, so we just learn to copy the same thing if that could be the answer for different questions.( As long as it isn’t plagiarism)
Have a nice day
Garry
@@GarryWan666 That's called an appeal to authority and doesn't automatically mean you're right. Some people have made some critical remarks on your copy and paste comment, which seems to be a quite shallow analysis and you haven't addressed them at all. Until then I don't see any validity in any of your claims.
If all these companies worked together on one plane, the result would be astonishing!
We would've been stacked like a pack of hotdogs 20yrs ago
The double decker seat isn’t a good idea, someone’s but will be in your face for the entire duration of your flight😂
Especially during turbulence 😂😂
I just hope the person rides on the top seats doesn’t have gas 😆💨
hope he didn't eat mexican the night before...
He is very charismatic! Always smiling, his videos raise my mood
I absolutely love your content and personality. Keep us entertained
I love that table!
Thank you for enthusiastically bringing what is usually behind the scene industry experience to us, Sam!
The design ideas for the airplane seats are a no for me. But everything else I like. Like the flight attendant uniforms look fashionable. And they might look elegant on the flight attendants using them. The material for the seats, etc not bad. And also the recycled furniture. The style is unique. And very resourceful to have the internet. Especially, on long flights. And the tags were adorable. Lastly, the vast knowledge of what takes to make up inside a general airplane.
That’s a totally different video and it’s amazing, I see this a integration of your vlogs aviation video very healthy information with class
*Major airlines, such as, Emirates, Ettihad, Qatar, Gulf, Saudi Arabian, Royal Jordanian, Turkish, British Airways, Virgin Atlantic, Al Italia, Air Afloat, Iberia, Luthansa, KLM, SAS, SWISS, Malaysian, Thai, Singapore, JAL, Korean, etc, should design their economy class seats just like business class seats which can be flattened specially in long flights. The price for each tickets in such flights should be somewhere between regular economy and business class ticket price.*
Sam, this place was great option if you need learn more about aviation flight. Thank you for this amazing place. Another great option from Dubai.
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1:13 I saw that guy in the suit back on Emirates RUclips channel a few years back talking about their First Class. Nice!
Aah, the cattle experience, can't wait!
This is very nice Sam. I saw you on the panel of discussion. Maybe you can share a video on the discussion? Thumbs UP on all your videos.
Hi Sam, it nice and exciting to see future plan of aviation. And the table was very eye-catchy
I’m sorry but the 2 decker economy is comedy gold
Sam, your booth is amazing! Congratulations!!
Man.. that double decker seat arrangement would expose the lower level passengers behind the upper row to horrendous fart retention from the row above
Sam, you bring many cool aviation perspectives to your channel. This was very interesting.
Can You Go In Antonov Airlines and Make a video About An225 Destroyed
On the 2 level seats. Some of the sleeping cars in North America called "duplex" by Budd/Pullman have something that could make it to business class.
the lower romette has the bed that is stored under the next roomette during day, and pull out of wall at night. The "high" roomette has its bed vertical during day and flips down at night. The roomettes are staggered , not over each other. But thety can squeeze more in because the feet on bed on lowwer roomette are under the floor of the upper roomette. Yet the 2 are fully separate.
The concept you showed in video would have challenges for seat betls (need to be seated in upright position) as well as the emergeney oxygen and lighting. And couldn't block emergency exist.
Great insight Sam as to what we can expect on our in flight experience in the future as technology truly takes hold and elevates aviation to another level. Love the table BTW 👍👍
Please make a video of Antnov An-225 myria 😭
Pls I recommend you to do aircraft show of Cambodia airlines
Hey Sam..please do a review on Mozambican Airlines..it would be nice
This is a very good video. I really like it. This is the best flight explanation ever
Just waiting for them to propose packing us in 1meter by 0.5m width box and pile us up to the cabin roof
Hi Sam I've been a big fan for all the years.
So I'm wishing for you to do a egyptair flight review.
I'm so jealous of the future generations! They'll experience in flight luxury!
Or even more cramped seat configurations.
this is very informatiive, good or bad, thanks for sharing Sam!
Sam Sam Sam! Salaam alaiekoum - Bonjour - ciao - Buna - Namaste! Oh wonderful citizen of the world! I stumbled across your videos today and I am hooked! You are such a BREATH OF FRESH AIR! I am flight crew and I have so far seen so many of your videos up straight from early on this morning! Your saudi video is so cool! I would love to go there after your vlog! Anyway I am Moe and I want to thank you for sharing your experiences and love for aviation and bringing global citizens together! Xiè xiè! 谢谢 💗 Subscribed!
Love watching your video...looking good.
I love the turbine table!
It's all fun and games until the guy up top has the bean burrito before the 15 hour flight. 😂🤢
Has this new seating configuration design passed safety scrutiny? It's chaotic enough to evacuate everyone in a dark messy situation when everyone is sitting at the same level. Now you've got passengers who have to climb or jump down and potentially land on top of somebody in the midst of a chaos.
New subscribers aviation in here!
YOUre the 300th comment ig
@@IndonesiaMajapahitNDPCA thx bro
Hey sam ! I am a huge french fan of your channel and i hope you get back on airfrance one day !
Very well put together video about the future of aviation Sam, well done and keep it up!!
How...nice a lot this video. You realy deserve all applauses
Future Prediction of Airline Seats: Standing Room with headroom height an upgrade.
I like the seats on the budget airlines. No big ass head cushion shoving my head forward and no reclining.
The double decker seats remind me of that Simpson episode with those overcrowded classrooms
Hello Sam Chui
Question?
What is your thought on An-225 Mriya Destruction ?
Nice to experience the convention in your channel
I'm desperate to go to dubai for this
& EXPO!!!!!
I used to live in Dubai
That's still fantastic there
Coolest thing in the video that really piqued my interest was bluetooth headphone connectivity. That will be a real game changer. Always prefer to use my own noise cancelling headphones but never remember to bring the right cables, in flight ones are always horrible quality
Is there a chance that you can visit Singapore airshow 2022?
The second guy trying to improve the economy class is the real deal , good man
A very informative video.
This is very cool.
Keep it up.
Love your enthusiasm for all things planes. It's brilliant
Greetings from Germany and Good Night my friend
Rip antonov my favorite plane
Just subscribed. Keep up the great work.
Really shocked you didn’t attend the biggest event of the year. Singapore airshow 2022
At 5.23 Sam you remind me of Tintin and Captain Haddock.
Always watch yr video.....I Like it ...
Great fun and informative video, aircraft interiors and uniform design was nice.
This was _ very_ interesting. Thanks for sharing!
Did you guys heard the news about the an-225?
Thanks Sam very informative I hope to be back flying soon
Double decker seats. lol. What a hoot. I have a good idea. How about "seats" where you just stand up for the flight.
What Sam did not tell us, is whether they are going to do the passengers' canning on spring water, olive oil, or brine.
Hey, Sam Chui. You want to go Vietnam Airlines ?. It's Great!
I have those seats! I got mine out of a Midwest Express B717
3:09 poor passengers on the lower deck wud have to take a fart right on their faces 😂😅
Sam you are gooooodddd !!!!!
Sam, thank you for another marvelous video. That’s a good place to visit in Dubai if you want to learn more about aviation 😀👍✈️
Me too
I love the "smell my farts" double decker seats.
Hi sam sad news the an 225 mriya has destroyed but the specialist has inspected the condition of the aircraft
A great video Sam just watch out in dealing with American Airlines
The stacked seating makes me so claustrophobic
Love this channel. Always really interesting episodes.
The best one is the economy class lay flat. I think it should be mandatory to have a lay-flat seats for any flights over eight hours. Business class tickets are too expensive. I will happily pay a little more for the economy class lay flat seat with economy meal service. I will even compromise on not bringing my carry on bag on board if needed!
No
The only thing I really need when flying .. reaching the destination safely and peacefully .. no disturbing by maniac or drunk passengers .. may be with a little bit of smile from the flight attendants.
The only advance that would be worth while is more leg room. A thin seat is a good idea, but airlines would simply add an extra row of seats.
These slim plastic seat are extremely uncomfortable to sit in I have experienced on a 2.5 hour flight and the left me unable to walk properly. I do have a spinal injury the moulded seat space has no give in it and was putting pressure on the metal in my spine The padding us to thin I put a final complaint into the operator along with many other passenger these seat where removed. On any flight over 50 mins
The short arm rest proved zero support for people
These seat areca health issue
11:50 What plane, carrier, and class is this? Those screens are HUGE.
This Video was very cool
Hey Sam, if you like that table, check out a company called "Moto-art". They make all kinds of furniture out of aircraft parts from the Mohave boneyard.
Good work.
sam have you heard news of the antonov 225 being destroyed its very sad :(
That was so informative!!!
One problem about the double decker: What if the person on top farts? That would be literal hell for the person sitting below.
This is so interesting! Unbelievable inventions and endless possibilities! Thanks for sharing, Sam 🙂 Bty: did you lose weight? You look so slim...
what happens in case of an emergency? Will those in those seats not have trouble evacuating. Some serious testing needs to be done
Whenever they try to cut corners, It is more functional and light weight!
The way the guy pronounced Wi-Fi at 14:53 lmaoo
Love it