The "Turn Based Final Fantasy" You've Been Waiting For: Clair Obscur Expedition 33
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Clair Obscur Expedition 33 is a recently announced turn based RPG with incredible visuals, a deeply interesting plot, and even voice acting from Ben Starr.
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#finalfantasy #clairobscur #expedition33
The people that grew up with games like Final Fantasy, Persona, etc. Are now old enough to make their own games and im so here for it
Also Golden Sun.
TBF the oldest of those who enjoyed Final Fantasy as kid (like on the NES/Famicom) are in their 40's/50's now. So that shouldn't really be anything new, unless you're referring to those that grew up with the PS1+ generations of those franchises.
Legend of dragoon
@@Y-two-K yeah I mainly meant those around the PS1 / 2 era. Prolly shoulda specified lol
Facts. Turn based is coming full circle :)
Instantly wishlisted on Steam! I can't wait for this and I hope it gets more awareness and support. I honestly feel that a lack of commercial awareness is many times why great games go unnoticed and get deemed as failures. Can't tell you how often I've come across an awesome game that I wish I knew about years ago.
Wow, their mechanics are very similar to Legend of Dragoon. But back then ppl hated having to press more buttons during an attack. I guess we'll see if that's the same now
Square were to scared to try it after abandoning it
I hope this is a hit, I need it to be a hit. I'm so tired of this idea that action is the future and turn based is the past so almost every game is some slight remix of the same tired action combat while turn based games are lucky to get the crumbs leftover for a budget. I'm about to buy SMT 5 again with the new version just to support the genre with my wallet.
Former Devs of Ubisoft made this game. They wanted something different than what Ubisoft was going for.
Intentionally designing to the game to avoid the ubisoft formula is even better news
Current Ubisoft could never, I'm happy these devs found a place to be creative.
@@kennykenevil57the current Ubisoft management wont know innovation even if it hit them on the face
Okay kinda worried now. Hoping for no microcrap and no buggy messes.
@@NAzo. Most devs at all the big studios are great, including Ubisoft (especially from years ago) the problem is creative control, not dev talent.
If I had the money, I would buy all the copies just to make sure it was a massive hint. Not every RPG (even Final Fantasy) needs to be turned based. But I'll definitely support any modern game that does.
I can dig those sentiments my brother Drew
I'll need to see more of the game before make any commitments, but this game is definitely at the top of my list right now of games I hope live up to their premise.
Support call of duty instead
I'm gonna double dip in this game just to give my support.
@@josephmoore9706call of crap
Ben Starr's voice will make this story somethign really special no matter what
A talented voice actor and just fun dude. Glad he's getting more work thanks to his performance in FFXVI.
I hope he doesn’t sound like he did in the latter portion of 16.
Also Shadowheart's VA from Baldur's Gate 3
Also Victor Borba as the vocalist
That trailer surprised me and hyped me up for a game I never heard of a moment before. Take notes BioWare that’s what trailers are suppose to do.
Not a fan of the Dragon Age trailer?
@@drewtheunspoken3988 I have eyes and ears, so no….
@@Trace153 that seems to be the general consensus. I seem to be in the tasteless minority who were excited by it. I'm okay with it, though.
@@drewtheunspoken3988 guess you are a big Disney and Pixar fan, along with hero shooters and that sort. That good for you, I still have plenty of games to play and new ones from companies like this one who make games that still excite me.
@Trace153 I don't play hero shooters, but it's not because of the art direction.
And I'm not going to lie, I was taken aback by the trailer initially. It definitely isn't what I expected or necessarily preferred.
It does, however, look like an evolution of the first game's art style, at least to me. I don't think that makes it better, but it made it less jarring in my mind. Having watched the trailer a few times, it's kind of grown on me. The game still might suck but I enjoyed the first 3 enough to give it a shot. The gameplay reveal tomorrow may change my mind.
As soon as I saw that Persona 5 style in battle UI, I got so hyped. This was the biggest surprise hit for me from Summer Game Fest (Gears of War E-Day too). It really does look like what Final Fantasy would be if it stayed turned based
This and GoWED were my top games of the show too. But this is more impressive to me for being a new IP that actually has me hyped
Same. That kind of style with this artstyle juat looks so intriguing.
I mean persona 5 did revolutionize the turn based menu.
The UI looks so nice
Holy smokes NSP...This game gives me so much hope and joy for the video game industry! I am definitely keeping an eye on that game, cause it looks and feels like a breath of fresh air. First BG3, and now this.❤
I am glad to hear it's creators are FF fans. You're right when stating the gameplay resembles older FF games and Persona games! Please keep us posted on anything new regarding Expedition 33, and love your videos as always!😊❤
It’s a lot like legend of dragoon too
This does have a lot of potential, will be keeping an eye on this
This game looks like a dream. I’ve been waiting for a “jrpg” that goes against the trends for a long time. Don’t get me wrong, I love a lot of those anime games, but this one seems like it’s combining eastern and western influences.
FF13 innovated the ATB battle system and gave us some amazing combat and yet y'all complained because the *hallways* and because you all assumed it's just an auto battler, refusing to actually engage with it.
Now here we are years later asking "What happened to turn based Final Fantasy? Are turn based games not viable anymore? Where's our proof these games are still good?"
S m h.
Agreed, ff13 gameplay was great with the paradigm system and everything. The problem is they locked off a lot of the systems until late in the game, and the party constantly changed so you couldn’t get the most out of it.
@@jairekambui7738 I really don't get this criticism.
The way I see it, each chapter is its own challenge, where you're handed a set of tools and you're expected to make the most out of them to beat that chapter.
That's not really locking off the game's systems, it's just giving you the systems relevant to a current challenge.
It's your job as the player to figure out how to most effectively utilize the paradigms and moves at your disposal- this still applies before you reach Pulse, and after you reach Pulse. It's just that after you reach Pulse, you're suddenly given more room to experiment, at which point you should be familiar with what different combinations are capable of in ways you might not have considered if you were given this choice early on and got too used to your comfort zone.
@@delaneyelekes8660 Fair point. Every duo matchup has different paradigms, so it could be considered challenge runs to get you to understand the battle system and what your preferred play style is.
I love FF13 combat. Better than 16’s boring hack and slash
It's a delight whenever FFXIII gets shown love 🙏 The combat system is definitely slept on
This game looks like its right up my alley. I hope the mouthful of a name doesn't turn away would-be customers. Sucks, but marketing (including the title) can make or break a game.
That combat system looks super promising. I really hope this game turn out as good as it looks and sells like hot cakes.
the graphics, world design, and battle system look incredible. honestly, this might have some of the best environments I've ever seen in gaming and I'm personally so glad they're not sticking to purely medieval which people equate to what fantasy is for some reason. What UE5 is capable of doing is insane. It's wild we've gotten to the point that games look like what those FFX FMVs look like, if not even better in ways. I've been wanting a fantasy AAA turn based game for what, around 15 years now? so grateful for this studio for taking the plunge. hoping the people crying out for for turn based show up for this game to prove to SE and other studios that there is indeed an audience for this and that turn based is NOT outdated, just needs to be executed correctly with modern touches and interesting mechanics
also fun fact: the director and ben starr are both huge fans of FF8, so it's great to see that passion for JPRGs there. also, this is another chance for ben starr to win an award for his performance which I think he surely deserves
The some reason is that when you make a game that looks too much like what our world looks like today, it feels less like fantasy. Rather than fantasy it would feel more like re-imagination of the modern day than a day dream. Just reminding that although it is not medieval, it is still a good 100-150 years into past when times were completely different. Just look at the damn clothing! Almost no person these days wears anything even remotely as nice looking. It's all just copy pasta garbage, a wide variety of garbage but still garbage.
Square Enix: "Turn-based games with high quality graphics don't sell enough anymore."
Expedition 33: "Hold my Baguette."
I hope you're right but it's way too soon to see if it'll be any good or a success.
Will it sell though, I think the name alone will prevent this game to become a hit.
Square has turn based games dragon quest , alive alive , octopath and etc
@@spiderhulk26 Dragon quest XI is the only high budget game on that list and it was released 7 years ago.
The info what we have gotten about XII is that battle system will be "updated" from the original command based system and that the game will be for more mature audiences, so everything the fans do not wan`t.
The concept of a cycle of death reminds me of Xenoblade Chronicles 3, which also draws inspiration from FFX
Yeah the story’s premise completely reminded me of Xenoblade 3
My first thought as well. Even though only Mio was the one on a time limit, it's still pretty similar. What I find interesting though is that this cast of characters are a bit older than your usual JRPG party, assuming they're all 33. I'm looking forward to their interactions.
@@Kingdom850 Everyone in 3’s party was on a time limit, Mio was just a year older (19) than the rest of them and the story occurred in the year of her homecoming.
@@ZephyrK_ Yeah that's what I was referring to. Within the current events of the story, she was the one with the most urgency in her fate since her homecoming was so soon.
@@ZephyrK_ For the game itself the time limit doesn't really seem like it's going to play a role. They choose the time they depart, so they should have more than enough time to either succeed or die trying. There's no sense of urgency, just desperation to make things better.
A turnbased RPG that doesn't look like everything else? Count me in 🫡
The trailer immediately reminded me of Legend Of Dragoon, looks very very promising indeed.
I was just going to note the same thing. Legend of Dragoon and Mario RPG were classics and I can’t forget Lost Odyssey. They really scratched that itch of challenge, innovation, fantasy and story for me. Let’s hope and see if they do the same 😀
It gives me Lost Odyssey vibes more than anything, but I would love to see the combat evolve into something closer to Legend of Dragoon. There are plenty of RPGs out there that have done the turn-based QTE combat, but nobody else has taken it as far as LoD.
Although in that game that was pretty much the whole combat (it had magic, but it was kinda bad), while this seems to have other quirks and depth, so maybe it doesn't need that.
If she kills everyone at a particular age and ticks down, there'd still be older people. People who were 33 when 34 ticked, would grow up to be 34 by the time 33 was written. Unless it's retroactive too I guess.
Could also be "this age and above" kind of thing.
This game has me soooo hyped like you couldn't believe, genuinely a great surprise! I'm so glad you're covering it NPS!
Night Pry Sprince?
@@SamStancillnight pry skrince
This looks like it has the potential to be this generation's Persona 5, if Metaphor doesn't wind up being that. It could also be the decisive game that warrants continued investments into turn based in AAA RPGs.
If you were any of the people that hated XVI's direction because it wasn't turn based, then you owe it to yourself to support this game. Doing otherwise is nothing short of indolence and shows that you're all posers who really don't care about whether or not RPGs continue to have this combat system and just shit on FF because it's cool to do so. So put your money where your mouth is and support it.
This is a jrpg inspired western rpg and the character designs are pretty bland, I don’t really see this doing anything like persona.
@@jairekambui7738 What should they look like instead? Pink haired whales, queer and gay to make them special?
This is an intriguing concept, I really like the fact they’re older. I’ve aged out of the teens and early 20 somethings saving the world and all.
100% agree. Give me some side story about party members who have had kids, or dealing with problems in a long term relationship. Or even cheating in a jrpg would be profound.
@@zedrico8577being older doesn’t mean that you have to be a social mess
@@IlluminaZero It feels like that though. I see more and more older people who are struggling. Besides, I'm all in for an older cast. *Looks at Persona*
@@IlluminaZerobeing older means wanting more mature relatable and relevant media
@@OfficialDjTalksick that sounds like the mentality for making Superman a deadbeat dad in Superman Returns.
Such things are not relatable to all adults. Secondly even those that experience such things don't necessarily want it forced down their throat (again).
It depends on the story ofc but if you're presenting a heroic fantasy for example - I would hope "cheating" wouldn't be an expected thing in such a setting particularly for the "heroic" cast.
This mentality that only kids can experience the kind of whimsy idealism is likely a big part of the reason fiction tends to hyper-fixate on them to an unhealthy degree.
Looking at this game reminds me of when "The Order 1886" was coming out. This is so absolutely visually stunning that I can see myself just walking around in the game to appreciate its beauty. YOU'RE THE GREATEST NSP!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
what a horrible omen
I thought of the Order as well for some reason lol
one of the guys who are making this game lists 1886 as one of his fav games
Order 1886 and some Greedfall. I actually had fun playing the former. The latter however...
The Order is listed in the art director's favourite games.
Baldur's Gate 3, Yakuza Like A Dragon, Infinite Wealth, Persona 3 Reload, Persona 5 R. Clair Obscur Expedition 33 is looking noice but we've had turn based games from AAA doing pretty solid work for a while now.
Notice how they're all sequels. I wouldn't know where to start with any of those.
@@chiffmonkey Touche salesman...
Haven't been looking for turn bass final fantasy love what they did with 7 remake but still enjoy turn bass persona 3 reloaded was great update and this looks promising
Everyone who wants more turn based and said they want more of these games, you better BUY it. No Game Pass, no PS Plus (I know its not day and day there), no gamefly. You buy it when you have the money.
If the PC port works properly then its pretty easy buy as seeing photorealistic JRPG's with old school gameplay is way too rare to miss out.
@@Winland88 I know some will but so many these days say they will then go “I will just wait for “__ service” which does not help the developers behind the game and could hurt their chances at making a sequel to improve and make a better one.
Cool, as someone that needs a turn-based system (due to health stuff) - I thoroughly approve :D
What health stuff, if you don’t mind my asking?
@maxhealthpoints They are a bit mentally challenged. Only mentally challenged people like that slow turn based combat because they can't think and respond on the fly! 😢
Unfortunately this might not be suitable, it's a hybrid system with parries, dodges and timed prompts.
Isn't like a dragon tripple A though? And it is turned base
It's not Final Fantasy-like. It's... um... Dragon Quest-like.
It cost 10 million to make. Final fantasy cost about 5x as much 27 years ago so no wouldn't really call it AAA.
@@michaelh878 It isn't the cost that decides AAA. It's the manpower and the effort.
@@michaelh878 Source?? Also not all AAA games has relatively the same cost.
@@jonahfalcon1970 Manpower doesn't relate to cost?
The camera zooming in and shaking all over the place during attacks is atrocious
Great Lost Odyssey shot out. That title certainly became prophetic. Amazing game and amazing soundtrack. Check out "A Mighty Enemy Appears!"
🤣🤣 How are you supposed to recommend these things to people???? Literally has obscure in the name...."Hey guys, there's this game Clair Obsur Expedition 33/2 Days Birth By Rebirth. You gotta get it!"
I never was a fan of quick time event style game mechanics. SonI don't thini the combat is for me.
Same here. I know it's an unpopular opinion but, to me, incorporating QTE's and "rythm game elements" into turn based combat defeats the purpose of the exercise. It's like a turn-based/action hybrid and I frankly never was into that. The whole point of turn based games is that they're not action games imo.
Imagine a Final Fantasy game with Baldur's Gate 3 style turn based combat. I would love to play something like that, even if it was a spin off title like Final Fantasy tactics.
It feels like FF13 + FF10 + Xenogears + Mario RPG. I'm REALLY interested.
Something to keep an eye on, but tbh it sounds like they've equivocated too much. It doesn't sound very turn based if success in combat is going to require nonsense like QTE's, twitch aiming, and timed dodges. That's just an action combat systems in disguise.
The entire reason turn based is fun is because it is thoughtful and tactical. Baldur's Gate didn't sell in spite of its combat. It sold because of it. Hell the combat is 80% of the game. Without it it's just a trashy romance novel in a high fantasy setting.
Hopefully there's a fun system in there despite the likely ill fated attempt at broader appeal. Game devs need to learn that sometimes niche appeal is OK.
It's beautiful, I'll give it that. The story sounds absurd in a typical JRPG (or inspired by) way. Which could be a good or bad thing depending on who you ask.
The combat...looks neat. A lot of LO-inspirations, as mentioned. Still too early to tell on that front.
One thing I really didn't like are the character designs. Everyone looks both too similar and are not particularly interestingly designed. Almost boring.
And I'm going to be real, the glassy stare from some of the characters are a bit jarring.
Gameplay, and story sound insanely promising. Hoping this is a success.
friendly reminder that BG3 won GOTY the same year square said people dont like turn-based RPGs anymore
and imagine if this year Metaphor would take game of the year from FFVIIRe.
Friendly reminder nobody asked, hope this helps x
@@yagokain4189 it just might
Persona 5 and 3 remake....
@@bouldersmashing Friendly reminder that you only smash boulders cause you'll never smash women.
Nah, it's more like french Lost Odyssey, because of the similiar cast, over-dramatic narrative and battle mechanics, they even have the famous "Judgement ring/figure" from the Lost Odyssey/Shadow Hearts/Legend of Dragoon/Super Mario RPG/etc. (it's ironic that all those games made by the same devs that was going from studio to studio), where you need to press buttons according to the rhyme and/or till the figure on the screen lit up on some segment.
Bro, you got a good memory lol, was trying to remember where I've seen that "flashy pressing" stuff!
I grew up with turn based RPGs and wish there were more. I will keep my eye on this one.
"in the AAA space, turn based games are no longer considered viable"
bro BG3 won all the awards
While I'm personally fine with Final Fantasy's shift into action-based gameplay, I have found myself missing turn-based quite alot and been grabbing indie games that are in the genre to fill that void. Like a Dragon and its sequel Infinite Wealth were amazing for that purpose too. So when this game popped up in the showcase I was immediately at attention. Some of the others were cool and all, and maybe more gameplay from them will pique my interest more, but Expedition 33 is what made me actually focus on what I was seeing. Can't wait to see more.
This was the standout game of the show for me, I'm very excited for it.
Dang NSP, thanks for turning me onto this - it looks SICK!
I so hope we are in the middle of a resurgence of high-budget, high-fidelity turn-based RPGs. As someone who grew up with the old FF games on the SNES/PS1, that would be a dream come true.
Wishlisted immediately.
Finally a AAA turn-based RPG. Looks incredible.
Beautiful... As I get older, it's always nice to see some main character around my age. The premise of the game is very interesting!
lol the male character looks like Robert Pattinson so it is possible it’s got a decent budget if they got him as a model for the character.
Doesn't matter, even if FFXVI is turn based or has party, people will still nitpick the game, they will always have a reason to say that it is not "their Final Fantasy"
Facts
An inherent downside of having a long-running anthology franchise: people will pick and choose their favorites and nostalgia will paper over the memory cracks.
I didn't care so much that it was not turn based I was fine with how fifteen was, but my issue was zero control of party stat management and equipment. It took away a huge portion of what I loved about previous entries.
No we won't. We just want turn based back and good stories... That's it
Final Fantasy is not for everyone in the first place lol
You and me both I’m a big fan of Ben Star, and a few others that have worked with him like Anna Demetria i’m like in the fact that they’re getting away from turn based it makes it much nicer to fight and have a choice instead of just being stuck into the way turn base aspect
Honestly this whole, turn based games aren't popular anymore narrative has been a lie pushed by the AAA industry in my opinion with how popular Persona and Star Rail is. The real issue is that the AAA industry wants empty open worlds to drive up playtime, but as the financial issues grow I see turn based games making a comeback since they can push fidelity while not wasting millions on giant empty worlds that are really falling out of favour.
Been noticing a lot of discussion about the struggles of AAA studios recently. Development costs are insane, profits aren't keeping up, and the whole model seems shaky.
This got me thinking about the term "AAA" itself. You know, the big-budget blockbusters? It turns out AAA comes from finance, where it means "safest bet." But with today's crazy costs, are AAA games really safe bets anymore?
In finance, credit ratings use letters (AAA, AA, etc.) AAA is super secure, while Double-B is risky. Think of AAA games as those high-risk, high-reward investments now. The potential for massive profits is there, but the chance of flopping is much higher too.
Maybe "AAA" doesn't quite fit anymore. Considering the costs and risks, maybe these games are more like Triple-B or even Double-B in the financial world. They're still big-budget, but with a higher chance of not being the guaranteed wins they used to be.
This looks like peak. The art style is insanely refreshing. I’m very attached to FFX, so I’m certainly buying this one.
Super hyped! (Didn't expect Lost Odyssey to get unearthed in this vid... loved that game too)
This is looking alot like Legend of Dragoon combat style. Turn based RPG but gives the player the freedom to nail perfect combos for limits and extra damage, parry etc. And Heck Legend of Dragoon was amazing. This was my top game from the Xbox showcase outside of Doom Dark Ages
Man maybe it was the Lost Odyssey music you were playing in the background, but it does give those vibes. Also, as someone turning 33 this year.... yeah it's got me interested
I'm 45, you embryos! Enjoy your last years before having to get a mechanical anus installed!
Haha, 26 years old here
Just by the visuals and what we know about gameplay so far it truly looks like a spiritual successor to Lost Odyssey.
Hopefully the combat is more Shadowhearts than Lost Odyssey.
@@WillieSlackmer Love em both, so I'm fine with either.
@@venweasel my issue with Lost Odyssey is that the timing combat only applied to normal attacks. When it started to focus more on abilities/magic, I lost interest. With Shadow hearts, all of it was interactive except item usage I think.
@@WillieSlackmer Oh I gotcha. I didn't lose interest with Lost Odyssey at any point personally but I definitely wish they kept the ring system with abilities and magic as well. It definitely would have kept it even more engaging and not so "on rails" during the end game stuff. So I do understand how someone could lose interest.
In the words of Philip Jay Fry "shut up and take my money!"
This honestly got my hopes for the FF9 Remake
turn based > action based
No 🤡
@@YPYT90
Yes 😏
Nah
Turn based = action based
@@darthaceznope, final fantasy 10 does not play like final fantasy 16
@@gamerd8709Love both genres that’s what I meant
It cannot be a Final Fantasy if the protagonist doesn't look JPOP.
Shut up and take my money!!!
If this game does well it’s massive egg on the face for SE 😂. It’s the only game I plan on buying in the next year or so.
Not really because square do still do turn based games dragon quest, alive alive , octopath and etc
@@spiderhulk26 not like this. Thats why a big deal is being made of it.
Easily the best reveal of the event, it's so insanely refreshing to see something like this come out of the west. Combat looks amazing from what we saw, to me it proves that games don't need to become button mashers to "innovate". There clearly quite a bit of innovation in the turn based formula here. I just hope it's a nice juicy 60+ hour game and not 10-20 like most western games
Quality > Length. Grind doesn't make a game good.
@@chiffmonkey When you're expected to pay £70 for it, I want to enjoy it for more than 5 hours. What makes you think grinding is the only thing that makes a game longer anyway?
@@babytiny5807 What makes you think it's £70? Name a game over 20 hours that isn't mostly grinding. Besides, it's never the longer games that have the most long lasting impact on me.
I want Fantasian pc version or a sequel or any new game from mistwaker, they do extremely good turn based game.
Im hype for expedition 33 , i want more turn based game in my life
Game looked grear reminds me of lost Odyssey
FYI, Ben Starr is also doing work in Atlas Fallen upcoming update in Sept.
Turn based combat in BG3 doesn't need fancy mini-games. Why do game devs think there needs to be more action and busy-work and pollute turn based games with junk? Just make the options for actions during turns engaging and work with environments. We don't need mini-games for turn based RPG! If you do, you should play games with tons of mini-games or live-action if you can't hold your attention.
“Lost Odyssey” is one of TWO of my favourite turn-based games. The story, graphics and gameplay are phenomenal. And it's a 2007 release. How come there's no sequel or remake??? The other of my fav is “Enchanted Arms”. Again, story, gameplay are magnificent. Yet no sequel. Why? 😢
looks absolutely stunning. im so on board. also, what is wrong with people who don't like turn based? some of the best games I've ever played were turn based. if anyone is on the fence for the game style, just try it out. they can be amazing!
I find it funny how many people claim "turn based is dead/dying" and yet a large amount of turn based RPG are released both indie/AAA/ and AA regularly.
The camera work in this game is so nauseating when it zooms in and out during attacks. i hope they chill on that.
Maaan I’ve loved your content for years, but you’ve preaching the good word lately! Keep killing it NSP! 🤘
A game I have been asking for since FFX, about people who will die at age 33, releasing the year I turn 33. This was made for me.
i saw that trailer and i was like... YES THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN WANTING FROM FF FOR YEARS NOW! im getting it day 1
I think we have missed that turn based games give you a chance to slow down or stop and marvel at the imagery. Action games need to keep keep the pace high but this gives little opportunity to really appreciate the characters, environments and enemies.
while that much is true turn base offers so much more. It allows teamcomp mechanics, strategy and tactics to come in over button and skill spam like FF16. Skills like haste, deathblow, poison, lvl ? death viable in the game.
Already wish listed the game on PSN. I hope it does numbers so square can stop being terrified of turn based. Also I don't know if it's true but I've seen people saying the team is 25 people. If True square could learn from that as well.
Square do have turn-based games dragon quest , octopath, alive alive and etc
Square Enix are the kings of turn-based RPGs. No one sells millions of turn-based games like they do. They're not terrified at all.
I didn't want to get hyped by this STOP IT!! Lol, reminds me of the hype behind 2020's Edge of Eternity which I put over 100 hours into, all acheivements but 3 and it's just ok in my book. I'll probly put 100 hours into this due to me being a turn based enthusiast and all, but I honestly found nothing in the trailer that deserves the hype. Again, due to me being bitten by the last turn based indy darling (well, not including Sea of Stars which I hadn't finished yet after a short ~2000 hour Starfield and ~500 hour Unicorn Overlord detour :)).
If it's more LO or Sea of Stars than EoE than GREAT. Nothing against EoE it's certainly not horrible. But so many love it JUST because 'it was built by JUST FIVE PEOPLE' or w/e.... ugh
Will 100% buy this game, because turn-based RPG's were what I grew up on, and I was really let down when all the great TB franchises (FF being top of the list) started moving towards the 'Western' RPG type - *as if you couldn't combine western-themes with turn-based for some reason* lol.
Really happy I stumbled on this video today - I had no idea!!
I'm surprised no one mentioned "Mario RPG," "Paper Mario," and "Legend of Dragoon" timed attacks.
Game looks interesting as heck. And several games have proved turn based is still viable besides BG3. The latest Yakuza RPGs, Octopath games, FF7 Remake, Persona 5 have all sold multiple millions of copies. So all the naysayers need to check their notes 😂
incorporating rhythm game mechanics into turn based combat seems like such an interesting and common sense next step for the turn based genre. The only reason I don't play rhythm games is because they don't usually have stories that are interactive otherwise.
For story driven rhythm games keep an eye out on the newly announced Unbeatable by Playstack Limited and obviously Hi-Fi Rush
I'm sold
That name is just horrible and will likely hurt this game. Don't get me wrong, it does look fun and I'll likely buy it, but what a terrible name for a game. If they just drop either the 'Clair Obscur' OR the 'Expedition 33', it'd be MUCH better. Having both makes the name too long and confusing for many people.
i think going the route with the time attacks to do more damage or to block or dodge attacks is the right way to go for a modern jrpg style game to gauge a larger audience since it makes thing a bit more active and a little less raw stat dependent and as mentioned with a lot of casuals being exposed to mario rpg from the remake at least in my friend group from the ones that usually dont like turned based rpg's ended up loving mario rpg and a lot of them messaged me or tagged me in discord excited for the game when they noticed the time based attacks and defense in the trailer and are now heavily invested in the game when it comes out
This is what I imagined a remake of "Legend of Dragoon" to look like, HOOOOOOLY SHEIT
Persona 5 proved that Turn-Based can still be commercially viable, so I believe it's that developers can't make a combat system that feels both familiar and fresh, while also providing a compelling narrative to supplement the combat. Most developers these days want to put as little effort in to their games as possible while expecting maximum profit.
Also, I still have my copy of Lost Odyssey 🤟
Haha... Ben Stars performance unforgettable.. I'll say.. it's the reason I couldn't stomach playing the game after I played the demo..
The most successful turn-based RPG in recent years, or perhaps all time, would be Honkai Star Rail. Clost to a billion downloads and over 1.5 billion dollars every year, an amount of money that less than 1% of games make in their entire lifetime, and this game makes it in a year.
I know, I know, you guys only care about the West, it's why you keep bringing up the Game Award, but even in the West that game still makes hundreds of millions of dollars a year. It's one of the rare games that is heavily successful in both the West and East; the game "Dungeon Fighter Online" is the most successful MMO of all time, it beats WoW on almost every metric of success, but since it's only successful in the East, most Westerners don't even know that it exists. It sure as heck ain't gonna win that entirely Western-centric Game of the Year award, that's for sure.
This art direction is gorgeous, and despite obviously using something like Unreal 5 next gen lighting, this trailer actually has fantastic lighting direction, instead of just cheating with lazy global illumination implementation.
I've never been much into turn-based, even during their heyday, but with FromSoft imitation seemingly making every mellee based game a PITA with frustrating, buggy, and invisible timing windows, I'm starting to view turn based as a potential respite. But yes, this game is gorgeous, as is the apparent protagonist.
I don't know if realistic graphics should be the goal. It was the weakest part of the last few FFs. Not that the have to be anime style. I'm not a big fan of anime. I think FF9 remake (if it's a thing) should be done in the originals CG art style. In other words gameplay should look like the OGs cut scenes. A new ff should be done in a Yoshitaka Amano art style, or something like that. It should NOT have realistic graphics. It will be as visually boring as the last 2 FFs. FF needs style.
I didn't watch any of the shows so no idea what's planned. May not watch it anyways but glad you put this on the radar. I hear you man after seeing the similarities with FF10, the graphics I'm cool with but that was never a big sell for me but the fantasy presentation holy smokes I am def with this especially with the turn base and Super Mario RPG interaction I am salivating. Loving the story summary and hoping the story is very good. I put it in my wishlist over on Steam just need a release date. I'm gonna check out the trailer.
Also Lost Odyssey (the real Final Fantasy 13 we should of got) for PC please make it happen!
I don't mind turn-based games as I grew up with them but I'm certainly more into action-based combat. With the fact that you need to grind in pretty much EVERY RPG I find that the most important aspect to that is that I enjoy my time grinding. People throw around Balder's Gate 3 as an example of a great turn-based game but if I'm honest the turn-based combat is probably one of the things I liked about the game THE LEAST. Really, that game shines due to it's fantastically evolving narrative storytelling and VO work. That being said, this is a game that immediately caught my interest in that they seem to be doing something MORE with turn-based combat and my only hope at this point is that they release a demo before the games comes out because there's NO WAY I'm buying this game without either playing it myself or hearing from someone who's opinion that I trust showcase the parts of the game being played that I would spend the most time with. RPGs are a HUGE time investment when time is at a premium in my life so I really need to know going in that just doing the normal gameplay repeatedly is really fun in the long-term.
If FFX's style of turn based is your thing ironically I recommend looking in the monster collection genre with Digimon Cyber Sleuth and Pokemon Legends Arceus.
They aren't high realism fantasy, but gameplay wise they can scratch the itch between major releases.
At this point I will always wait to see if sweet baby inc is detected before buying anything... They hype doesn't matter anymore... It's not a factor... You can't even get excited about officially licensed Nintendo games without their American counterparts interfering with their translations etc... Games aren't what they used to be.
I basically have to wait for a full on trusted youtuber review who has my same taste and perspectives, to get ahold of a game. Before I trust some snippets and previews of a game. Gamers keep getting burned.
The main caracter looks like Robert Pattinson. At first I was like, I wouldn't be surprised since he's a JRPGs fan. Mainly FF7. Obviously, it's not a him, since the game would've been talked about a lot more if such a big actor would be linked to it.
just saw the trailer, idk how I missed it. Ya, I LOVE turn based games, NOT JUST FF franchise, but Dragon Quest, Shining Force 1 and 2, Phantasy Star 1-4. Breath of Fire 1-4. There is NO EXCUSE why we can't get a very graphic quality game and still keep a turn based fighting style, a game like this. This is solid proof that it still can work. Mario RPG, even the remake in 3d worked!.....They are even bringing back and making another Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga sequel thats gonna be turned based! I am rly happy about that. OH and Pokemon games are STILL turn based, in case ppl somehow forgot, Pokemon Franchise NEVER went open battle system EVER
I'm so sick and tired of ppl thinking turn based combat can't work in a modern AAA gaming..last time I checked the biggest IP on the planet is based in a bog standard turn based combat game..with game mechanics that has barely evolved since the 90s when it came out.
yes its Pokemon ..and I think there's tons of gamers that grew up on that combat system and is looking for a grown-up version of that combat...
If pokemon ever evolved its system and adopted the ATB system from FF5-9 and add actions can interrupt or tank other actions the game would be a revolution and take over the world all over again.