Yes Rick mate I have never found that fully researching any memory when building is really the only thing to do and if one doesn't then they have only themselves to blame.
@@Britec09 The challenge is that the QVL is only a list of what was tested and therefore not all inclusive. Want to run 128GB of RAM on Ryzen 7000 (which the CPU and Motherboard say they support)? Chances are the QVL has never been updated to include that amount of RAM.
I think theres some duff information in this video. You do not need to look for XMP RAM for Intel systems and you dont need to look for Expo RAM for AMD systems either. Expo works on Intel platforms and XMP works on AMD platforms. I use Expo settings on my 12th Gen Intel rig. As soon as you put an Expo kit into the board Expo shows up where the XMP settings would be. If you look at MSI's Intel motherboard QVL lists for DDR5 they approve plenty of Expo RAM for Intel systems. Nobody seems to be aware that both Expo and XMP are enabled on both platforms and have been since the vendors added both types of settings to all of their motherboards.
Okay bud. Need some help then. I have 4 sticks of corsair CMH32GX5M2E6000C36. I have a MSI Project Zero motherboard with a 7800x3d. Used PC parts to build the PC. Bought this Ram. Built PC. Fired up the PC. I have no option to choose Expo. Only XMP. How to I get Expo on my Ram or am I effed?
QVL's can be a bit of a minefield when you're in the UK. When I was looking for my last DDR4 kit, I looked at the QVL list for the board and finding makes that UK retailers had in stock was a nightmare. We can't just pop down to our local Micro Center and pick it off the shelf like they can in the US. I managed to find some in the end, but boy was it a task!
I've read multiple sources claiming that as long as it's SK Hynix, it doesn't matter if it's XMP or EXPO. It (the RAM) will work at the advertised speeds with little effort in tweaking in the BIOS.
I've never bothered to look at the QVL lists, and I never used pre-set memory profiles. I've always manually configured my ram. RAM speed is not really all that important for gaming. The higher the speed, the higher the latency. Thus 8000 mt/s DDR5 RAM will only be a few FPS faster then 6000 mt/s RAM, so save your money and don't bother with the fastest RAM.
816k subs and only 7k views? yeah.. About the video itself, non-sense. XMPs and EXPOs are nothing else than a confirmed preset. You can run both XMPs and EXPO rams at all times everywhere, but you won't be able to use a preset of XMP/EXPO everwhere. That means, that if you if are on AMD platform and you select XMP you may encounter crashes due to instability of selected parameters - and that means that you will need to manually tweak. Thats all that there is too it. Want to know if you will have issues with specific RAM on your MB? Google it and look for reviews. All RAMs work on all platforms (check only max supported clocks on your MB/CPU), pre-configed presets by manufacturer is a different story.
I ordered Kingston KF560C30BBEK2-64 (EXPO) kit and received Kingston KF560C30BBK2-64 (XMP 3.0) kit. Both are on QVL list for my mobo. Is there any difference, should I demand exchange to the EXPO kit?
yes u can i have for 1 year XMP DDR5 on my Asus MB AM5 X670E, and it s works very well. only DD AMD expo 2 profil has provide more performance. AMD expo 1 are under DDR5 XMP without overclock profile. DD5 vengeance XMP on x670E.
Yes Brian as I mentioned in someone else's comment I always researched the specs of the memory I was fitting with the board, CPU etc specs. I mean that if you do not then you only have yourself to blame when you come to setting the memory speeds for example. Having said that I have never really found much difference when setting the memory speeds in my admittedly older Ivy Bridge build.
I use a AMD platform with Intel recommended ram, It all works fine with the XMP profile. It is just a preset . It is important to use the right ram for the right motherboard tho. The xmp profiles does not matter.
That's all that's buggering me! When I am looking to buy a pair of memory sticks nowadays it says either AMD or XMP. This must be a new thing because it wasn't like this before.
I've been having a nightmare after upgrading to amd. Bought some tforce delta xmp ram within fours days my pc started playing up and i figured it out to be one of the ram sticks stopped working. Bought some corsair dominator platinum. Fours days later and my pc started to blue screen and the bios rest its self. Cpu light came up on the motherboard resealed it, then the vag light came on. I took the gpu out and put it back in again then it started work alright. I swear its the xmp ram messing with my system. I havent put the xmp profile on and will see what happens if not im gonna try out some expo ram. Im not a pc wizard so all of it confusions the hell out of me lol
Hello, i've bought a new PC with ddr5 6000mhz for intel however my MB and cpu are AMD. I can OC though DOCP but i get random crash on games after that. What do you recommand to make the ram still work with OC. Should i decrease voltage ? Ram speed ?
Bought a 6400 2x32gb ram on my first am5 build. Was "xmp optimized". Not in the compatible list for the mobo too lol. Just oced it manually fine. They are adding more dumb shit. At least it was $20 cheap than then expo counterpart. lol
@@user-gk8mc7wt4w it will run at 2400MHz or whatever the max native ram speed for the motherboard is. Check if there is a overclock for the motherboard ram speed. You might be able to overclock it to use 3200MHz.
@@az_tinkerer_gamer most motherb.s even 20 years ago let you manually set clocks and timings, so xmp aside, there is no intel or amd pc memory, there is just plain n' old pc memory.
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Yes...there is no guarantee any memory will work with anything at any speed as it's all dependent on the cpu and motherboard.
So many people buy blind without checking.
Yes Rick mate I have never found that fully researching any memory when building is really the only thing to do and if one doesn't then they have only themselves to blame.
@@Britec09 The challenge is that the QVL is only a list of what was tested and therefore not all inclusive. Want to run 128GB of RAM on Ryzen 7000 (which the CPU and Motherboard say they support)? Chances are the QVL has never been updated to include that amount of RAM.
Yeah memory compatibility is something that needs a little more research than we are used to with ddr4
I agree, I found DDR5 memory a little fussy, so I always use QVL
I think theres some duff information in this video. You do not need to look for XMP RAM for Intel systems and you dont need to look for Expo RAM for AMD systems either.
Expo works on Intel platforms and XMP works on AMD platforms. I use Expo settings on my 12th Gen Intel rig. As soon as you put an Expo kit into the board Expo shows up where the XMP settings would be.
If you look at MSI's Intel motherboard QVL lists for DDR5 they approve plenty of Expo RAM for Intel systems.
Nobody seems to be aware that both Expo and XMP are enabled on both platforms and have been since the vendors added both types of settings to all of their motherboards.
Which RAM do you have? Is a g.skill trident z5 xmp kit okey on a AM5 build?
Okay bud. Need some help then. I have 4 sticks of corsair CMH32GX5M2E6000C36.
I have a MSI Project Zero motherboard with a 7800x3d. Used PC parts to build the PC. Bought this Ram. Built PC. Fired up the PC. I have no option to choose Expo. Only XMP.
How to I get Expo on my Ram or am I effed?
QVL's can be a bit of a minefield when you're in the UK. When I was looking for my last DDR4 kit, I looked at the QVL list for the board and finding makes that UK retailers had in stock was a nightmare. We can't just pop down to our local Micro Center and pick it off the shelf like they can in the US. I managed to find some in the end, but boy was it a task!
Thanks for sharing
Very informative. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I've read multiple sources claiming that as long as it's SK Hynix, it doesn't matter if it's XMP or EXPO. It (the RAM) will work at the advertised speeds with little effort in tweaking in the BIOS.
I've never bothered to look at the QVL lists, and I never used pre-set memory profiles. I've always manually configured my ram. RAM speed is not really all that important for gaming. The higher the speed, the higher the latency. Thus 8000 mt/s DDR5 RAM will only be a few FPS faster then 6000 mt/s RAM, so save your money and don't bother with the fastest RAM.
816k subs and only 7k views? yeah..
About the video itself, non-sense.
XMPs and EXPOs are nothing else than a confirmed preset.
You can run both XMPs and EXPO rams at all times everywhere, but you won't be able to use a preset of XMP/EXPO everwhere. That means, that if you if are on AMD platform and you select XMP you may encounter crashes due to instability of selected parameters - and that means that you will need to manually tweak. Thats all that there is too it.
Want to know if you will have issues with specific RAM on your MB? Google it and look for reviews.
All RAMs work on all platforms (check only max supported clocks on your MB/CPU), pre-configed presets by manufacturer is a different story.
I ordered Kingston KF560C30BBEK2-64 (EXPO) kit and received Kingston KF560C30BBK2-64 (XMP 3.0) kit. Both are on QVL list for my mobo. Is there any difference, should I demand exchange to the EXPO kit?
Hi. I recommend testing them first, being stable is all it counts, rather than that, performance should be 99.9% the same..
yes u can i have for 1 year XMP DDR5 on my Asus MB AM5 X670E, and it s works very well. only DD AMD expo 2 profil has provide more performance. AMD expo 1 are under DDR5 XMP without overclock profile. DD5 vengeance XMP on x670E.
I have a msi b650 and a xmp ddr5 will it work
Yes Brian as I mentioned in someone else's comment I always researched the specs of the memory I was fitting with the board, CPU etc specs. I mean that if you do not then you only have yourself to blame when you come to setting the memory speeds for example. Having said that I have never really found much difference when setting the memory speeds in my admittedly older Ivy Bridge build.
I use a AMD platform with Intel recommended ram, It all works fine with the XMP profile. It is just a preset . It is important to use the right ram for the right motherboard tho. The xmp profiles does not matter.
So ddr4 was less hassle platform
That's all that's buggering me! When I am looking to buy a pair of memory sticks nowadays it says either AMD or XMP. This must be a new thing because it wasn't like this before.
If i bought an intel ram that is within an AMD motherboard specification will that be problematic ?
So if i have a tridentZ DDR5 at 5600mhz can i use it on a MSI B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI? PLIIIIIIS HELP ME
Look at the boards compatibility on their website.
The compatibility headaches of motherboards...I'm glad I left the world of PC building years back and just stick with laptops these days.
I never like using Laptops
Using laptops is like using a toy version of a PC.
I've been having a nightmare after upgrading to amd. Bought some tforce delta xmp ram within fours days my pc started playing up and i figured it out to be one of the ram sticks stopped working. Bought some corsair dominator platinum. Fours days later and my pc started to blue screen and the bios rest its self. Cpu light came up on the motherboard resealed it, then the vag light came on. I took the gpu out and put it back in again then it started work alright. I swear its the xmp ram messing with my system. I havent put the xmp profile on and will see what happens if not im gonna try out some expo ram. Im not a pc wizard so all of it confusions the hell out of me lol
Hello, i've bought a new PC with ddr5 6000mhz for intel however my MB and cpu are AMD. I can OC though DOCP but i get random crash on games after that.
What do you recommand to make the ram still work with OC.
Should i decrease voltage ? Ram speed ?
I tend just to find ram that looks decent then look to see if its on the compatibility list lol
Best way
Bought a 6400 2x32gb ram on my first am5 build. Was "xmp optimized". Not in the compatible list for the mobo too lol. Just oced it manually fine. They are adding more dumb shit. At least it was $20 cheap than then expo counterpart. lol
Intel RAM is ok on AMD motherboard but LINUX RAM on Windows is not ;)
how about ddr4 3200mhz amd ram plug to intel only 2400mhx max support? ddr4 3200mhz amd ram will run? even in 2400mhz? plan to buy 3200mhz for upgrade
@@user-gk8mc7wt4w it will run at 2400MHz or whatever the max native ram speed for the motherboard is. Check if there is a overclock for the motherboard ram speed. You might be able to overclock it to use 3200MHz.
@@BorisZX6R okay. thanks for reply. i planning to buy ram and i go ddr4 3200 even my mobo only 2400mhz can. 3200mhz is for future upgrade mobo. right?
WTF is" intel RAM?"
Im assuming ram dimms optimized for xmp profile, intels oc profile for ram.
@@az_tinkerer_gamer most motherb.s even 20 years ago let you manually set clocks and timings, so xmp aside, there is no intel or amd pc memory, there is just plain n' old pc memory.
@@istvancsap3513 they still label em that way, just sayin.
@@az_tinkerer_gamer k
@@istvancsap3513 if you dont read the package or the websites thats a you problem.