Trans college swimmer speaks out on sports' inclusion | Nightline
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- Yale University swimmer Iszac Hening spoke with "Nightline" about the ongoing debate on how to be inclusive to trans athletes while balancing what some argue is "fairness."
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They’re trying really hard to make excuses for a biological man competing in women’s sports 🙄
i blame their rich careless parents, who have loads of money, but couldn't grow a child properly , they clearly failed as a parent ! but the worst part is they want to impose their illness on other normal humans, wow amazing ! feels sad to see where humanity is heading. literally breaks the heart, might wanna see a place to migrate i personally can't leave my kids on the hands of this woke society.
@@officialepicemployee46 It's time for us to leave America this is not the America we know.
@@REALVIBESTV and go where exactly?
@@officialepicemployee46 So I see you are trying to make a donation to start up a transgender athletics association can we start you at $1,000 every month for the next 2 years? I can give you a cash app tag if you preferred
@@REALVIBESTV So I see you are trying to make a donation to start up a transgender athletics association can we start you at $1,000 every month for the next 2 years? I can give you a cash app tag if you preferred
Last week I scored 15 goals in hockey against a bunch of kindergarten kids. I can understand being proud of dominating sports.
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Just don’t forget to apply L’Oreal age defying cream for at least a year, you know, to comply with regulations.
@@formermtgfiend9162 the award for the best comment and reply goes to you’all 😅
How many trans women can you name who dominated sports?
A complete slap in the face to women's sports!!!!
So I see you are trying to make a donation to start up a transgender athletics association can we start you at $1,000 every month for the next 2 years? I can give you a cash app tag if you preferred
Funny the trans male swimmer "chose" to keep competing against the girls. Hmm. Its almost as if knows he would not even make the men's team. How sincere to then pretend men competing against women is same as talented men competing against lesser male competition. So silly. Hands off woman's sports.
Totally agree. Lost all and any legitimacy right there. The argument is such a waste of time - anyone with a hint of common sense knows that Lia Thomas is cheating. It is that simple.
THIS
so they should have stripped her naked and threw in the men's showers if she thought it was so important for transgender want to be seen and accepted as the gender they identify
THIS.
They probably “decided” after they didn’t make the cut on the male team.. super convenient.
There’s no nuance.
There’s no two sides.
There’s no common ground.
There’s no argument.
This is a man competing against women and it’s wrong. Flat out WRONG.
Well said.
The first part of the interview with Henig who is a biological female, second part of interview with L Thompson is a biological male. The boys shouldn’t be allowed to compete with biological females.
@@sunshineii9472 If their T level is low and they wait X years, who cares? The connective tissue strength will drop.
@@downwithputinsaveukraine1313 in his case as long as he trains his muscle strength will improve. The issue is simple biological boys should only complete with biological boys the same goes for biological girls competing only with biological girls. He still has his man parts!
Period!!!! Its misogyny personified and erasure of women.
Might as well just make a new class and have it be for trans folks.
It's too early, perhaps, once a plan is formulated. That's a way off.
Foh................. Why? This is the problem.... playcating these MF weirdos........
That… actually makes sense.
There are girls who didn't make the team because they didn't qualify on the basis of talent. Must we also make an additional team for the less talented to accommodate them as well?
@@chrisboe2192 They’re competing against a biological man.
I can’t even imagine having this amount of entitlement .
As a woman I wouldn’t even compete against someone who was previously a man , no point really considering I’d be competing for 2nd place
I really feel like it's cheating
Yes equal rights for everybody a man can do anything a woman can do & vice versa but a man Is just more physically gifted and that's just a fact of life
Leftists are betas who hate competition so they don’t mind playing for 2nd.
"- i wouldn't even compete against a man"
Shortened the sentence for you.
Why do you have to compete in a competition made by men to show who is the strongest and fastest man? Most sports were created by men. They favor big muscles, larger lungs and bigger hearts.
It just makes me sick
Will you talk about how Leah was a loser on the mens team?? how they were always coming in last place till he switched gender and breaking records against bio women??
That's what I think all trans athletes do I don't even care if I paint them with this brush they just want the stats I don't care if it's not politically correct
Ranked 51 amoung the men!!
@@elmosweed4985 she's forcing women to cheat?
@@LIATH420 He is the cheat, nimrod.
@@elmosweed4985 so women shouldn't play sports?
As a former athlete, the Penn State situation is so fucking wrong.
I agree, but U Penn is not Penn State. Lia is from U Penn, which is a private school part of the Ivy League. Penn State is a state school in Pennsylvania.
This guy is the type of guy who enjoys playing video games on super easy mode just so he can dominate.
Game Journalist?
Lmfao
Average male swimmer = best female swimmer ever 😂
I wonder if she won in the women's divisions because then she was taking treatments to be more like males.
We need a 3rd division for transgender people. Let them find their audience and earn their pay/winnings, the same way women have had to for decades.
Hah thatd never happen because as much as Trans people want their own things. They also want what cis people have as well.
I agree with you. They need to fight for their own categories. They need to stop taking away womens rights.
Where were all these trans women for decades and during the suffrage movement? 🤔 oh right, they were enjoying the privileges of being born male.
Now women fought and fought and finally got some equal rights and they now want to piggy back on us.
You gotta earn your own place, and not snatch someone else’s
So I see you are trying to make a donation to start up a transgender athletics association can we start you at $1,000 every month for the next 2 years? I can give you a cash app tag if you preferred
What two genders male and female. I’m a female I think we’re in a crazy society that we accept that. They shouldn’t compete in women’s sports
@@OddOtter707 EXACTLY. This is 100% about the validation of of male feelings. They wouldn’t want their own team, because then they would be separate from women, and that’s not validating to them. It’s all so disgusting.
“Whose assigned female at birth” really? Is saying “was born a female” not acceptable anymore??
The same reason there are no more sex change surgeries, rather gender affirming surgeries. Word games.
it’s the same thing just more formal it’s how news and articles is
the same thing phrased differently and you’re bitching
@@Udontkno7 lol nah it’s the truth, people are so messed up these days, why not just be gay or Lexi instead of “transform” like I wanna identify as a helicopter but no one will recognize me as a helicopter?
This is disturbing. We are really going down hill as a human race.
Yeah so much transphobic comments on here
@@LIATH420 lol like any one should give af.
@@isaacinkout1750 I give af
@@LIATH420 Well congratulations you’re part of a very small group. Good luck with that
@@isaacinkout1750 yeah it's called being trans and it's going very well thanks lmao
I don’t want anyone to be offended I just share what I notice.
This transgender male at the end of the interview said that he feels self-centered looking at himself all the time now.
Again That’s the part that has been consistent throughout is the “ it’s all about me” “ how I feel” Who cares about anyone else feels.
People pretend that they are okay with trans women competing in women’s sports but if they use their own common sense then it is easily. Clear out the confusion by using common sense.
It’s not hard to keep the Plainfield fair. The hard part is getting people to realize it’s nothing against them it’s just the way to be fair to everyone.
It would illuminate any injustice that has always been a fight for Womens rights.
No woman athletes are not happy. Woman who never played a sport in there lives are speaking on be half of woman athletes. The fact is less woman play sports and most men are not going to care enough to help woman athletes. Imagine your daughter losing her dreams to a man.
***Playing field.
Way to be fair to everyone?
How is being a man in a woman's sport being fair to everyone?
Lia Thomas beat her next closest competitor by 36 seconds. Full laps. The Penn State record will last until another trans woman beats it. Her losses weren't enough.
38 seconds.
This is insanity. They are completely ignoring the research studies that have concluded that the advantages PERSIST even after 2+ years of hrt
Fun fact: boys are different than girls!!
Girls who are boys are just as valid as girls who aren't
@@LIATH420 LOL! 🤡
@@papawheelie5576 cis girls are just as valid as normal ones
@@LIATH420 LOL!!! 🤡🤡
@@LIATH420 lol 🤣
7:55 Phelps didn't identify into his catagory though, he aged into it. And if we catagorized sports by lung size, Phelps would either be in his own league or unable to compete, and Lia would be competing with mostly men.
Disgraceful. Putting other women at a disadvantage. 😤👎
This swimmer must either have emotional problems or be oblivious that the entire world sees what is happening here.
“She” should be embarrassed and ashamed.
So if Lia Thomas competed against other males instead of women it would hurt Lia Thomas's feelings? 😕 Tried to not type his or her. 😔
Stop with the bulls***, it’s a “him” or “he”
Ha! "🎵Feelings...🎵nothing more than feelings"
It would definitely hurt his/her ranking
If it’s “fair” for Lia to compete against women then you should be swimming against the boys sweetheart. Oh wait… you wouldn’t make the team!
Exactly so anyone who is trans can pick what’s best for them and hope from one side to the other or just stay whatever wins for u
Maybe he could identify as a Special Olympian and set records there as well?
Comment of the century.
So. What everyone is saying.. Is that I'm allowed to join any sports I want and compete in it, as long as I say whatever gender that sport tells me to say.
Noone believes that she really beat Lia Thomas. Lia let her win. And she knows it.
Nope, it makes no difference if you undergo hormone therapy. If you went through puberty as a male, you have an undeniable advantage over biological women. In this case, (Larger Lung Capacity). That means that you have superior oxygenation in your blood, which is one of the primary reasons why men do not compete against women in endurance sports.
@@officialepicemployee46 Keep your far-right propaganda to yourself. My comment is based on science, not hate.
@@officialepicemployee46 then just go f****** migrate already we don't need your bigotry here.
So Michael Phelps should be kicked out according to your logic. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Women swimmers: YOUR TIME MATTERS, dont even look at L T times. You worked hard all your life, dont let a biological male ruin that for you. I wish all you amazing female swimmers could speak up.
If it was a matter of just being able to ignore it that would be fine but Leah is winning championships that rightfully belong to women. Transgender women athletes are causing biological women athletes to come in second third and fourth place when they used to be number one, which costs biological women in scholarship money. There's more than just feelings and inclusion and letting people play, on the line here... there's real money at stake!
Isaac was born female. Transitioned to male. Continued on women's team.
I do have the perfect solution to this problem. Lia claims that it's not about winning it's about inclusion? Well okay then, as far as trans women on women's teams... they should be allowed on the team for practice and travel but not allowed to compete in competitions against naturally born women. Now they get to be included, they get to feel like they're part of the team, but the natural Born women are not suffering due to the unfair advantage of ”her" having testosterone coursing through "her" body for the first 21 years of "her" life prior to transitioning.
I like Lea's right to privacy, and
not caving in, to extremists
like yourself....👈😁....
😂👉Do you like SCOTUS judges who
ignore the "rantings" of karened up
liberals, because they brought
this upon themselves ???....
if you’re gonna do all that at least care enough not to put “her” is quotes. It’s her. Period.
@@Udontkno7 I will put "her" in quotes until "she" stops STEALING wins and possibly even scholarships from biological females.
Presents themselves as a "man" yet wants to compete as a woman still?
No.
Doesn't even look like a Guy 😂 it looks like a puppet from goosebumps or something 🤣😂🤣😂
i blame their rich careless parents, who have loads of money, but couldn't grow a child properly , they clearly failed as a parent ! but the worst part is they want to impose their illness on other normal humans, wow amazing ! feels sad to see where humanity is heading. literally breaks the heart, might wanna see a place to migrate i personally can't leave my kids on the hands of this woke society.
We need to end sex based discrimination in sports. Sports were never fair to begin with.
Lol, tell that to biology. Men will always be stronger than the average woman
@@edwardrichtofen8530 That’s what I’m saying. Sports were never fair because some people, particularly men, are biologically faster and stronger for the most part. If sports were fair then short men could play in the nba. Sports simply aren’t fair.
And your solution is,.,...........
At this point, for sports, let's just get rid of gender boundaries and have a free for all in all competitions in the end I'm sure you'll see a bottle kneck of consistent winners💯.
DO IT!
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Women will never perform at the same level as men. There’s a need for male AND female sports. Trans people should either have their own league or compete as their biological sex.
Yes I'm female and want to play along side to mbape or Pogba
Unfair, look at the records. Times for women are slower across the board than for men. I swam competitively for years.
He was ranked 400 in men and then switched and is now ranked 1 for woman shouldn’t be allowed to be honest it’s a damn shame
Can’t change the voice
"assigned female at birth" LOL
"Congratulations. It's a baby girl."
RIght? Doctors can't assign anything. They merely observe.
7:35 The "comeback" didn't convince me.
Yes, Michael Phelps is what we would call a biological genius, but he's still within the limits set by the most fundamental rule, men and women.
Michael Phelps is the exception, but he's the individual exception, an anomaly in terms of performance and physiological excellence. He's the genius, something that sports in general look for, someone that will go beyond and showcase the best within a determined set of rules. These rules, in the case of most sports is men and women, though it could include other parameters, like weight for martial arts.
When it comes to men having advantage, like bigger heart or lungs, the gain in performance isn't garnered from individual excellence, it's from a group advantage. Suddenly, you're not trying to find the most well-suited individual, you're trying to fit in the most well-suited group of individuals, since all trans women will have the advantage.
Aaaaaand Michael Phelps is indeed an MKultra athlete. Means very much enhanced from the beginning. check that out.
Did she just air quote "women"?
Sure did.
You're right. We should do everything in our power to make sure Lia is happy and feels good about herself. To hell with all those bilogical women swimmers Lia competes against - they just don't matter.
You forgot to add /s to the end of your comment.
This world is so twisted and demonic.
Dumpster Fire.
This world is crazy! Wrong is right and right is wrong...so sad! 🙏🏾
why do the interviewers pause before saying something like hurting yourself lol
"there's so much more to great athletes than hormones" uhh... Someone should tell that to the people that stripped lance Armstrong's titles 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Why are there no trans-men competing in men's sports? hmmmm.
Dam Man is not made up by GOD ALMIGHTY to perform Like a woman! He has the DNA of A MAN, and performance is that of a man against women.
Man is not made up by God, God is made up by man lol
I support transgenders but not competing against biological women .
So your happy for iszac to compete with other females ?
@@becky14 Yes that is fine because Isaac did NOT get testosterone therapy yet. He did that so he could stay on the women's team. There's no unfair advantage there. No male hormones at any time, so no unfair advantage against females. Lia has an unfair advantage because she was born a male with testosterone, went through puberty, competed as a man and then transitioned to female and is OF COURSE kicking the crap out of the women due to bigger body, longer arms, bigger hands, bigger heart & blood volume, much greater lung capacity, larger muscle mass, & broader shoulders.
This is just so horrifying that anybody thinks this is ok.
Lol this is hurting real woman athletes. If you are a woman and can beat a man than why do you not compete with men. This is not true you are a man and you need a therapist not swimming. Watch BBC Detransitioning and regretting this. Woman sports are done and not enough men will care about woman sports to get involved. Girls that have spent their whole childhood to get a scholarship will be left out. Why not create your own team?
7:55. So what's the point of women's sports? Everybody might as well just hop in the pool and compete against each other.
Just make a co-ed league that allows everyone. New sponsors, new revenues streams, new Olympics class.
Self............ exactly!!!!!!!! It's all about self-centered, insecure individuals. I hope and pray the women win in the court!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FOLLOW THE SCIENCE they say no amount of hormones will ever change XX to XY vise versa doping was outlawed in sports because of unfair advantages then none of this should be allowed.....
Just have trans swimming, wether it’s one or two in the pool
Where's the fun in that? Lol
Best idea so far
We need more men to transition so there is at least one transgender in every event ……every gold medal goes to a transgender, every competition is won by a transgender….. tennis golf athletics football olympics. ..every winner is a transgender ….this will be good for women’s sport…..and it’s fair which is good….
Why isn’t Iszac on the Mens team?
The narcissism is STRONG with the transgender movement, and even STRONGER with its allies.
These dudes know they have an advantage. I just don't see how they can get any pleasure beating women. I would feel sorry for these women that have worked so hard only to have a man come along and spoil everything for them. If they want to be recognized as a woman, whatever. That's there problem but let the women have their sports. Shame on the NCAA for not doing the right thing. It just shows they don't care about their brand.
Why do you do an interview with someone that was female at Birth and now swimming in men's events he obviously isn't breaking records Izzy. It's a little different when men are breaking records and female events
Why in the world is there a conversation? Why would anyone think their body is not their's? Evil spirit both in the mind working to turn the minds of people. A definition of insanity is this interview. The interviewer is supporting this as is the media that support it.
No matter how much anyone tries to delude themselves, he is a she.
"He" decided to stay on the women's team because despite taking hormones, "he" know he's trash compared to real dudes.😂
This is really very simple. Give the trans athletes their own designation. That way they compete fairly against their own, just like the men and women in sports.
The only sensible voice in this video is Nancy Hogshead-Makar! Thank you Nancy!!!!!
dayummmm those manly VOICE 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
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So easily solved by having a women's division and an open division.
So why is "he" being allowed to compete with WOMEN??
now a days of u trans woman they pity u but if you trans man they put you down
For it to be fair they must have their own race for them but it’s not fair for the women.
I think the best solution to this issue is for trans men and trans women to have their own sports categories.
Your are smart, you are correct, you are stand up, u shud be commended big time. And all the love and admiration being sent your way.
No one is angry at “Isaac”. Who cares a woman is swimming with woman. Seems fair enough to me.
Marginalizing biological women is not the solution. It's a disgrace! The people making these decisions have apparently lost all rational thought and common sense! Trans athletes should compete against other trans athletes. That is both fair and inclusive!
Her argument seems to be that trans athletes are just superior to cis-women, and that just like Michael Phelps competitors, cis-women will just have to deal with it. Very interesting.
I personally disagree with that stance, but at least I understand the reasoning.
It makes sense, sports shouldn't even be segregated by gender or sex anyway
@@LIATH420 And country too....right?
@@enigma8088 yeah that too but most countries use sports as a political tool so I doubt that will actually happen idk
stop the MANUAL hormones then see !! 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
Her op-ed was titled "I chose to Compete as My True, Trans Self. I Win Less, but I Live More". What does she think about the opposite situation? When a male decides to be female and decimates all real female competitors? How is that fair?
The world needs a meteor.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a biological female claiming to be male? It sounds like the only reason she dominated the other women is the treatments she was taking to be more like males.
I do hate to see anyone outclassed, like her competing against actual males, but she's actually doing right now competing as she says she wants to be. I just don't think she deserves credit for beating unenhanced women before. There's too many biological males, and females taking performance enhancing treatments, beating up on hetero females.
If sports institutions really want to address trans stuff, they need to keep the women's divisions for biological unenhanced females only, and treat the men's divisions as "open" for everyone else. Anyone who objects to this: There's no difference between genders according to you right? And it's not about winning, right? Hope that helps.
Still not a Man. But, this should go to show that there are differences between the sexes. Men and women are different.
So everybody just swims on women’s team. Whatever. 🤡🤡
Dude! That is the most F - upped and truthful statement yet!
Well, I guess of you can't cut it in the mens division, just say your a woman, and you'll get to compete against biologically weaker competitors. They banned steroids because they give an unfair advantage, but this is ok? SMH.
Im 42 yo and thinking about playing pee wee football. If my mom lets me
But when he goes on hormones and tries to swim against bio males he will not be competitive. This is likely the reason why he held off starting hormones. I have no problem with him swimming with other bio females. But Lia should absolutely should not swim with non trans women.
How BIG are his FEET ? A size 13 foot is an advantage over a size 7 ! It's true.
I "identify" with being 6' 4" instead of 5'4" - so can I join the basketball team now?
For trans women - the best way to prove it’s just about inclusion and not about dominating would be to compete exhibition and renounce all titles and trophies. We won’t see as much frustration with trans men because there isn’t much advantage besides injecting horomones.
Juwanna man part 2.
*Given Thomas' runaway performance now, one of his female teammates was right: In an previous swim meet with another transgender (a pseudo-man), Thomas (a pseudo-woman) sandbagged to lose*
Trans-Women ??? Is either one or THEEE other...
Jesse what are you talking about
Why can’t we just add transgender as a third group for competing and for locker rooms and call it a day
Some day Women will just say enough is enough and just walk out
The simple solution: co-Ed teams, a more complex solution: if a biologically male athlete was an athlete with the muscle mass of their biological sex before deciding to transition they: should be not be making natural testosterone; and be voluntarily incased in a full body cast for a minimum of 9 months, that will cause their muscles to atrophy to the point where they will have to work as hard as a woman would have to to get back to that physicality. In the case of biologically female athletes who were athletes before transitioning: no such remedy should be necessary. That is the only way to level the playing field. Also IMO no real athlete would want to compete with people who are less capable, I argue that any biological female who is as talented and accomplished as a male athlete transitioned to female wouldn’t want to compete against other females because there is no competition, they would insist on being on the male team.
HassOle- but once a man goes through puberty he has much more bone density, muscle mass and lung capacity to work with not to mention brains. Lol just kidding about the brains. I couldn't help myself. There is no way to diminish that permanently.
You're forgetting bone-density & lung capacity.
Check out Bill Burr’s take on competitive swimming. His bit was about race tho.
Why does Mr. Thomas tuck?
Woke us a bad Joke
Hopefully this means we're going to start seeing slam dunks in women's basketball
I love the journalist using air quotes while saying WOMEN
And why's the transman swimming with the girls when the transwoman is allowed to swim with the girls? 🤔 Shouldn't "he" be swimming with the boys?
Shes a biological female she hasn't taken hormones yet so its fair for her to swim with females but the male swimming with females is not fair he should know better its essentially cheating !
@@kassandraahuero7962 i agree. My point is that she won't be too eager to put herself at a greater disadvantage by competing with guys instead of females.
This is madness !! Women need to speak out and all the people that make the rules should be fired !!