Gangsta Villain Davros: “Even when I am like this, and they have their perfect, pure, strong bodies, they _fear_ me. And well they should! I am no longer like them! I am *above* them! I am the *ultimate power!* The power of *_life and death!!_* “ .. Gigabrain Russel T Davies: “Nah you’re just some wheelchair dude” ⚡️🧠⚡️🧠⚡️
RTD literally reduced him to a wheelchair-bound villain; which is absurd when you consider it’s an entire life support system and essentially the prototype dalek machine, not a wheelchair, and by arbitrarily retconning him so he is _not in a “wheelchair”_ then this scene doesn’t happen Davros absolutely _was_ more than just a “dude in a wheelchair” but that’s how reductive RTD had to be in order to justify his egregious retcon
@@reaps912 just to clarify, RTD hasn't retconned Davros entirely, he's not trying to imply that Davros was never in the chair, he's simply used Davros out of the chair in a prequel and then implied that future appearances of Davros might have him out of the chair (which can be explained by the regeneration energy he stole from the Doctor in Series 9) As for the discrepancy between Davros being out of his chair in the prequel while designing the Daleks, when I,Davros makes it clear that he's already in the chair when designing the Daleks, Big Finish have actually already provided an explanation for that years ago, the Eighth Doctor Time War 4 box set establishes that the Davros from New Who is an amalgamation of different Davroses from across the multiverse, which was created to replace Classic Who Davros when he died in the Time War. The New Davros still has all of Classic Davros' memories, but he's technically not the same character and has his origins in a slightly different universe. This was done to explain why Davros has eyes in Series 9, but it can also be used to explain why Davros is out of his chair in the prequel - we're seeing the backstory of the New Who Davros, not Classic Who Davros. Classic Who Davros' backstory is still the version we hear in I,Davros, and that will never change regardless of what New Who does. Basically, TL;DR, Time War shenanigans mean that Classic Who Davros and New Who Davros are technically distinct Davroses (Davri?) with slightly different origins, but the new one does have all the memories of the classic one (as well as, presumably, a whole bunch of other Davri memories from the other timelines). That's why he looks different, that's why he has eyes in Series 9, and that's why his backstory is slightly different
@@dalekbumps In an interview, RTD outright stated that he saw Davros as a "wheelchair user" and that it was somehow "problematic," all without mentioning that Davros' disfigurement is an intrinsic part of his character. It's also a braindead idea to claim that Davros being disabled is somehow wrong, and making him able-bodied only serves to erase a character who refused to let his disabilities stop him from achieving great things. Davros' main characteristic _isn't_ that he's a "wheelchair user" (which isn't even a valid interpretation of his _life support unit_ and is incredibly reductive), it's that he's the creator of the Daleks whose injuries and life experiences shaped him into the man he is today. The first thing _anyone_ notices about his chair is that it makes him look like he's part Dalek, but what people _don't_ take away from his appearance is the insane and illogical idea that he's representative of all disabled people.
@@Jackson-ub1uv what 'great things' has Davros achieved, exactly? He deemed his own species redundant (due in part to his envy of their non-disfigured status, as the 'Davros' audio explicitly states), he ensured their eradication through guile and treachery, and he created an army of amoral fascist war machines which he then set loose on the universe with the intent of exterminating all other life. Davros is not a role model, there is no single aspect of his philosophy, methodology or motives that should ever be respected or held as an example of something to strive towards, he is a wholly ruined and despicable man. And he also happens to be Doctor Who's go-to character for disability representation. In the show's 60+ year history, (before the RTD2 era comes along), Davros is the definitive example of disability representation in Doctor Who. It's shameful. Star Trek, which has run almost as long as Doctor Who, has a diverse range of disabled characters - both good and evil - and yet Doctor Who has consistently used disabled characters as examples of reprehensible, distrustful people throughout its history. Davros is in a 'life support system' (Wheelchair. Strip away the sci-fi jargon, and it's a wheelchair) because the production team at the time thought it made him more alien. He has facial scarring because the production team at the time thought that it would make him more disturbing for children. That is wrong, and RTD is right to try to change it. The show doesn't need Davros, but it does need better representation for disabled people.
@@dalekbumps If your first thought upon seeing Davros is "wow, this perfectly represents disabled people," then that's entirely on you. As for "great things," the man is a scientific genius who saved his entire race from extinction, built several empires, and made a species that almost wiped out the oldest and greatest civilisation in the universe, all without legs, eyes, and only one arm. Davros refused to let his disabilities define him or get in his way, and his sheer determination and intelligence is what made him one of the Doctor's most stand-out villains. Davros is certifiably insane, but the fact he's able to do so much with so little is remarkable and potentially inspirational for those with disabilities. Who cares what the original intentions behind his development were, he's an iconic character _because_ he's half-Dalek in design; strip that away from him and you're left with a random and generic old guy. Sure, greater representation is great and all, but not at the cost of what's already there. RTD has essentially said "you see this absolute madlad who forged empires whilst confined to a chair? Yeah, that shouldn't have happened and we're instead replacing him with an able-bodied man, because people _without_ disabilities are the only ones who can do great things and be evil." Davros isn't _anyone's_ "go to" for representation, as he's never presented as such. Very few people have ever considered him to be a "wheelchair user" and instead just see him as being half-Dalek. Speaking of the Daleks, why aren't _they_ being considered "wheelchair users" that need to be corrected? Should the Cybermen _also_ be considered "prosthetic users" and be shamed for "dehumanising/villainising disabled people?" Are we going to be criticising World Enough and Time for something like "glorifying botched surgeries and medical malpractice," or Age of Steel for claiming that people without emotions (e.g. psychopaths) are less human than everyone else? What about all of the able-bodied villains (of which there are hundreds of thousands more than disabled ones) who are setting a terrible precedent for non-disabled people? Davros' decrepit appearance never gets acknowledged in-universe (or IRL) as being representative or indicative of his evilness, rather it's his _actions_ that makes him evil. No one in their right mind is going to leave an episode of Doctor Who, see someone in a wheelchair, and think "they must be a fascist dictator because that's what Doctor Who told me," are they? Davros doesn't own a wheelchair, by the way, it's actually a life support unit that _he's built into;_ similarly to how Dalek casings are referred to as "tanks" rather than "wheelchairs," "chair" is just an easy way to refer to Davros' setup. Finally, Doctor Who has had disabled people as good guys before, and the ones that aren't are evil either because they just _are_ (like Davros) or let their fear and desperation get the better of them (John Lumic, who was one of RTD's own creations), and they always get called out on it. I'm not entirely familiar with classic-Who, but I can tell you with full certainty that new-Who has never claimed that a disabled person was evil purely because of their disability. For Davros, his injuries weren't the cause of his insanity, rather they simply served as fuel to the fire that was already there. His continued existence in the face of such adversity is one of the many reasons he believes his world views are right, and that something that should be preserved. I'm all for better representation, but not if it means losing the good things we already have.
Davros did NOT have much faith in the Kaled people! I suppose he figured if he could create a NEW race of Kaleds, they would succeed where the OLD race of Kaleds failed? Perhaps if they had better weapons... Better armor... Better intellects... Better ruthlessness?
At this point the only way to upload more dalek clips is for doctor who to make more dalek episodes and if the BBC ever find old lost tapes of ancient doctor who episodes
That ego, that arrogance. Rage and hate
I feel an affinity with it
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"I WILL NOT DIE! THIS IS NOT THE END! THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING!"
Chills, my dudes
This is the best Davros speech in Doctor Who history
This and the 'I Davros' series are the amongst best things Big Finish have ever produced.
Such a banger of a drop into the theme tune at the end, Davros such a good DJ
Gangsta Villain Davros: “Even when I am like this, and they have their perfect, pure, strong bodies, they _fear_ me. And well they should!
I am no longer like them! I am *above* them! I am the *ultimate power!* The power of *_life and death!!_* “
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Gigabrain Russel T Davies: “Nah you’re just some wheelchair dude”
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RTD literally reduced him to a wheelchair-bound villain; which is absurd when you consider it’s an entire life support system and essentially the prototype dalek machine, not a wheelchair, and by arbitrarily retconning him so he is _not in a “wheelchair”_ then this scene doesn’t happen
Davros absolutely _was_ more than just a “dude in a wheelchair” but that’s how reductive RTD had to be in order to justify his egregious retcon
@@reaps912 just to clarify, RTD hasn't retconned Davros entirely, he's not trying to imply that Davros was never in the chair, he's simply used Davros out of the chair in a prequel and then implied that future appearances of Davros might have him out of the chair (which can be explained by the regeneration energy he stole from the Doctor in Series 9)
As for the discrepancy between Davros being out of his chair in the prequel while designing the Daleks, when I,Davros makes it clear that he's already in the chair when designing the Daleks, Big Finish have actually already provided an explanation for that years ago, the Eighth Doctor Time War 4 box set establishes that the Davros from New Who is an amalgamation of different Davroses from across the multiverse, which was created to replace Classic Who Davros when he died in the Time War. The New Davros still has all of Classic Davros' memories, but he's technically not the same character and has his origins in a slightly different universe. This was done to explain why Davros has eyes in Series 9, but it can also be used to explain why Davros is out of his chair in the prequel - we're seeing the backstory of the New Who Davros, not Classic Who Davros. Classic Who Davros' backstory is still the version we hear in I,Davros, and that will never change regardless of what New Who does.
Basically, TL;DR, Time War shenanigans mean that Classic Who Davros and New Who Davros are technically distinct Davroses (Davri?) with slightly different origins, but the new one does have all the memories of the classic one (as well as, presumably, a whole bunch of other Davri memories from the other timelines). That's why he looks different, that's why he has eyes in Series 9, and that's why his backstory is slightly different
@@dalekbumps In an interview, RTD outright stated that he saw Davros as a "wheelchair user" and that it was somehow "problematic," all without mentioning that Davros' disfigurement is an intrinsic part of his character.
It's also a braindead idea to claim that Davros being disabled is somehow wrong, and making him able-bodied only serves to erase a character who refused to let his disabilities stop him from achieving great things.
Davros' main characteristic _isn't_ that he's a "wheelchair user" (which isn't even a valid interpretation of his _life support unit_ and is incredibly reductive), it's that he's the creator of the Daleks whose injuries and life experiences shaped him into the man he is today. The first thing _anyone_ notices about his chair is that it makes him look like he's part Dalek, but what people _don't_ take away from his appearance is the insane and illogical idea that he's representative of all disabled people.
@@Jackson-ub1uv what 'great things' has Davros achieved, exactly? He deemed his own species redundant (due in part to his envy of their non-disfigured status, as the 'Davros' audio explicitly states), he ensured their eradication through guile and treachery, and he created an army of amoral fascist war machines which he then set loose on the universe with the intent of exterminating all other life. Davros is not a role model, there is no single aspect of his philosophy, methodology or motives that should ever be respected or held as an example of something to strive towards, he is a wholly ruined and despicable man. And he also happens to be Doctor Who's go-to character for disability representation. In the show's 60+ year history, (before the RTD2 era comes along), Davros is the definitive example of disability representation in Doctor Who. It's shameful. Star Trek, which has run almost as long as Doctor Who, has a diverse range of disabled characters - both good and evil - and yet Doctor Who has consistently used disabled characters as examples of reprehensible, distrustful people throughout its history. Davros is in a 'life support system' (Wheelchair. Strip away the sci-fi jargon, and it's a wheelchair) because the production team at the time thought it made him more alien. He has facial scarring because the production team at the time thought that it would make him more disturbing for children. That is wrong, and RTD is right to try to change it. The show doesn't need Davros, but it does need better representation for disabled people.
@@dalekbumps If your first thought upon seeing Davros is "wow, this perfectly represents disabled people," then that's entirely on you.
As for "great things," the man is a scientific genius who saved his entire race from extinction, built several empires, and made a species that almost wiped out the oldest and greatest civilisation in the universe, all without legs, eyes, and only one arm. Davros refused to let his disabilities define him or get in his way, and his sheer determination and intelligence is what made him one of the Doctor's most stand-out villains. Davros is certifiably insane, but the fact he's able to do so much with so little is remarkable and potentially inspirational for those with disabilities.
Who cares what the original intentions behind his development were, he's an iconic character _because_ he's half-Dalek in design; strip that away from him and you're left with a random and generic old guy.
Sure, greater representation is great and all, but not at the cost of what's already there. RTD has essentially said "you see this absolute madlad who forged empires whilst confined to a chair? Yeah, that shouldn't have happened and we're instead replacing him with an able-bodied man, because people _without_ disabilities are the only ones who can do great things and be evil."
Davros isn't _anyone's_ "go to" for representation, as he's never presented as such. Very few people have ever considered him to be a "wheelchair user" and instead just see him as being half-Dalek.
Speaking of the Daleks, why aren't _they_ being considered "wheelchair users" that need to be corrected? Should the Cybermen _also_ be considered "prosthetic users" and be shamed for "dehumanising/villainising disabled people?" Are we going to be criticising World Enough and Time for something like "glorifying botched surgeries and medical malpractice," or Age of Steel for claiming that people without emotions (e.g. psychopaths) are less human than everyone else? What about all of the able-bodied villains (of which there are hundreds of thousands more than disabled ones) who are setting a terrible precedent for non-disabled people?
Davros' decrepit appearance never gets acknowledged in-universe (or IRL) as being representative or indicative of his evilness, rather it's his _actions_ that makes him evil. No one in their right mind is going to leave an episode of Doctor Who, see someone in a wheelchair, and think "they must be a fascist dictator because that's what Doctor Who told me," are they?
Davros doesn't own a wheelchair, by the way, it's actually a life support unit that _he's built into;_ similarly to how Dalek casings are referred to as "tanks" rather than "wheelchairs," "chair" is just an easy way to refer to Davros' setup.
Finally, Doctor Who has had disabled people as good guys before, and the ones that aren't are evil either because they just _are_ (like Davros) or let their fear and desperation get the better of them (John Lumic, who was one of RTD's own creations), and they always get called out on it. I'm not entirely familiar with classic-Who, but I can tell you with full certainty that new-Who has never claimed that a disabled person was evil purely because of their disability.
For Davros, his injuries weren't the cause of his insanity, rather they simply served as fuel to the fire that was already there. His continued existence in the face of such adversity is one of the many reasons he believes his world views are right, and that something that should be preserved.
I'm all for better representation, but not if it means losing the good things we already have.
Davros did NOT have much faith in the Kaled people! I suppose he figured if he could create a NEW race of Kaleds, they would succeed where the OLD race of Kaleds failed? Perhaps if they had better weapons... Better armor... Better intellects... Better ruthlessness?
Davros always wanted to be unquie like a god.
That's one of the reasons he refused to become a Dalek.
Better Hatred
That too!@@c0nvict_pleb174
Sad to see this is the last Dalek clip being uploaded by you :/ Maybe we'll see more in the future when more content come out/more older Big Finish?
I have more Dalek content on the way, it's just not going to be clips. The daily uploads will continue!
At this point the only way to upload more dalek clips is for doctor who to make more dalek episodes and if the BBC ever find old lost tapes of ancient doctor who episodes
Poison? In Gensis he had an off switch that he couldnt survive 30 seconds without
He could always turn that back on, though, and it's shown to be very painful. A poison injector is fire and forget, no regrets.
@@CleverCrumbishbut why would he have two suicide pills?
@@nifralo2752 because he's arrogant
My wife is angrier than Davros
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