I think the main thing I remember from it is how they turn that woman into the pilot dalek and keep their promise by giving the dalek version of her the works of Shakespeare creepy and a clear nod to maxtaball in evil of the daleks
@@HOTD108_Army of Ghosts/Doomsday is 3 separate ideas that just kind of happen at each other (Cult of Skaro, Daleks vs Cybermen, and Daleks Reborn) and none of them really get room to breathe… yet. That season finale is honestly kind of a mess (even though the emotions, charm, and performances carry it to victory despite the structural issues) Um… Into The Dalek is half a story, does that count?
@@HOTD108_ Victory of the Daleks is kind of like Ressurection of the Daleks, Power of the Daleks and that one comic that was originally meant to be set in WWII but got rewritten to be WWI.
Scherzo... Yep, summed up perfectly. Surprised no one's made an Out of Context with that audio alone. "I shall go and find Papa. I know *he'll* let me live."
You think The Last is weak? It‘s one of my favourites. I don‘t think Doctor Who has ever been so hopeless and bleak (except maybe World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls) and it‘s perfectly pulled off, and: ‘‘First Charley and then C‘Rizz. You‘ll have to kill me, Excelsior, because I‘m certainly not taking you away from this planet. We‘ll hang here in space until we rot.’’ ‘‘Brave words, Doctor. Do you value your life so little?’’ ‘‘My only friends are dead, my TARDIS is missing, I‘m trapped in a universe which bears no relation to my own. I‘m not exactly glad to be alive at the moment. Death is becoming an attractive alternative.’’ is one of my favourite interactions in Eight‘s main range.
@@merrynesther In my mind, the whole thing developed this really bleak, really oppressive atmosphere, death decay around everything in C’Rizz and Charlie’s segments, and things getting sort of Terry Gilliam-esq whenever that self-obsessed President was “onscreen” (I always imagining her looking like the elderly mom that was constantly getting cosmetic surgery to deage herself in Terry Gilliam’s Brazil). Of course, the first time I listened to “The Last”, I was a passenger in a car, on my way to what would become my new home after years of living in a completely different US state, so listening to this dour and depressing audio drama ended up *_lifting_* my spirits because it helped me realize my problems were small, petty, and entirely shaped by my own negative outlook, by comparison. I listened to the right story, at just the right time, so I always had more patience for its faults as a result. And frankly it just helps to listen to horror stories in dark rooms at night regardless of quality, it really sets the mood.
I liked the divergent universe stuff after Zagreus. Okay, so for the life of me I can't remember what happened in any of them but I definitely enjoyed them at the time!
yeah that's cool. had anyone else made it video, it probably would have gotten more credit. i just have a bit of a bias against dalek stories and i don't like them as much as most people do.
Way to fix Time of the Daleks: Remove the Daleks entirely. You see when I last listened to it (which admittedly was about a year ago and was also for the first time) there was one line that really caught my attention (and please note I may be remembering it wrong but this was the general gist): ''In order to preserve Shakespeare we have to make sure he never exists.'' This is actually really interesting to me because as quite a critical person, when I'm watching a show that has gone significantly downhill since it began, I sometimes think 'if only it hadn't started it was never have been ruined.' So really what the story would have been far better as is a story where The Doctor and Charley stumble upon a group of people trying to travel back in time to trap Shakespeare before he begins writing so his plays can't ever be heard of and can only be experienced in a pocket universe, and perhaps when Shakespeare finds out he tries to escape and the climax would be The Doctor and Charley trying to return Shakespeare to his home.
I've started listening to the 8th Doctor stories, but I've chosen to start with Blood of the Daleks rather than Storm Warning. The very idea that I might some day have to try and understand Zagreus scares me too much.
I'm currently listening to the 8th Doctor Audio Series. I've listening up to The Chimes At Midnight and this video is pretty spot on. I need to finish the rest.
I've been listening to these on and off for a few years now, just finished Scherzo. I remember quite liking Embrace the Darkness and Time of Daleks. I can't remember what happens in the latter, but I remember enjoying it. So far the only dud in my experience has been the Sword of Orion, and that was simply because I thought it was a bit dull.
imo you probably shouldn't because there's some in this video that i said i hated but are essential to the overall story like creed of the kromon, for example. i wouldn't really advise skipping any of them if this is your first time listening.
@@merrynesther yeah he was a bit more energetic and reckless but I just love the bit where SPOILER a 1930s blimp captain kicks the shit out of an alien embodiment of war
@@merrynesther definitely, it’s likely one of the reasons why I haven’t gone back to listen to the rest of the 8th Doctor audios in ages. A bad drama at least something visual to look at to keep you engaged, an audio drama doesn’t have that so if it’s boring you’re also going to be completely lost & have no idea what’s going on
@@BH-98 yeah the monthly range can be a real pain in the ass to trek through but the gems like chimes, seasons of fear and caerdroia make it worth it imo. completely understand why you'd give up tho, that was me for the first year of me trying to get into them lmao
I’ve listened to Storm Warning, Sword of Orion, Chimes of Midnight, Time of the Daleks, Neverland, attempted Zagreus, Scherzo, Faith Stealer, Terror Firma, Scaredy Cat, Memory Lane, Time Works, and The Girl Who Never Was. Storm Warning is erm, a story, it does it’s job and I love the cast. Sword of Orion low key I can’t remember. Chimes of Midnight is possibly my favorite Doctor Who story. Time of the Daleks is so boring because it really just feels like they CTRL + c CTRL + V-ed Evil of the Daleks Neverland is a weird wacky wonderful and WILD story. Loved the Easter egg mention of Terserus at the beginning. Zagreus is actually the most confused I’ve ever been in my life. Gave up after part one. Scherzo is actually the most uncomfortable I’ve been watching, listening, or reading to Doctor Who in my life. No idea why people love it so much. Faith Stealer :/ Terror Firma is probably the most fun I’ve had listening to a Dalek story. Time Works is so good I love it. Memory Lane is erm… something. It’s enjoyable but it’s quite the ride. The Girl Who Never Was is one of the most incredibly well put together and heartbreaking companion goodbyes with some solid action by my favorite Doctor Who baddies. The timey-wimey nature and the way in which the Doctor decides it’s time to move on and let Charlie on her own is some of the most incredible stuff written by Alan Barnes.
@@merrynesther The first season is free on spotify so start there. I've liked the ones I've listened to, the first three, but haven't really felt the need to listen to any more.
@@merrynesther I mean I more say to listen to them on spotify to get a free taste of them and if you don't like it then skip it. They hardly put them on sale too.
i'm gonna be real i made this like, 2 years ago and haven't listened to zagreus since. i think there was a scene like it but i genuinely can't remember.
He needed to be more over the top for the Chimes of Midnight because it's overrated. The 8th Doctor as part of the monthly range was window dressing. The 8th doctor doesn't really start at Big finish until the EDAs start with Blood of the Daleks.
I actually much prefer the monthlies over the EDAs imo. The EDAs were more consistent, but the Charlie era just had a ton of incredible stories that the EDAs were never on the same level as until the 4th series.
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now THIS is the oddly specific content I come to the internet for
well oddly specific content that caters to nobody else but myself is my speciality, afterall
@@merrynesther Same.
Same 😂
Sure it was 🙄
Christmas wouldn’t be Christmas without our peach syrup!
Zagreus: look out the window! There's a window
Love that reaction for Time of the Daleks. I can't remember a single thing about it other than that scene that a ton of people animate.
i listened to it fairly recently (im new to big finish stories) and i was just *so* confused
@@merrynesther I will say, that while I am not fond of Time of the Daleks, I do like Embrace the Darkness.
I think the main thing I remember from it is how they turn that woman into the pilot dalek and keep their promise by giving the dalek version of her the works of Shakespeare creepy and a clear nod to maxtaball in evil of the daleks
“Time of the Daleks” is like, 5 or 6 really good Dalek stories thrown into one Dalek story and thus becomes a bad Dalek story.
yeah that's how dalek stories work most of the time tbh
@@merrynestherWhat? Name literally one other Dalek story that feels like 5 seperate ones put together. You can't.
@@HOTD108_ Destiny
@@HOTD108_Army of Ghosts/Doomsday is 3 separate ideas that just kind of happen at each other (Cult of Skaro, Daleks vs Cybermen, and Daleks Reborn) and none of them really get room to breathe… yet. That season finale is honestly kind of a mess (even though the emotions, charm, and performances carry it to victory despite the structural issues)
Um… Into The Dalek is half a story, does that count?
@@HOTD108_ Victory of the Daleks is kind of like Ressurection of the Daleks, Power of the Daleks and that one comic that was originally meant to be set in WWII but got rewritten to be WWI.
Scherzo... Yep, summed up perfectly. Surprised no one's made an Out of Context with that audio alone.
"I shall go and find Papa. I know *he'll* let me live."
i love Scherzo
Yes! Someone who loves seasons of fear as much as I do!!
YES! seasons of fear is great, it's one of my favourite big finish stories
@@merrynesther yes! It has a great bit of comedy!
@@merrynesther I love how he just stares at time of the daleks like 😶
One of the best stories imo
this has to be one of the most descriptive michael rosen videos i've seen, let alone of doctor who. props!!!
You think The Last is weak? It‘s one of my favourites. I don‘t think Doctor Who has ever been so hopeless and bleak (except maybe World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls) and it‘s perfectly pulled off, and:
‘‘First Charley and then C‘Rizz. You‘ll have to kill me, Excelsior, because I‘m certainly not taking you away from this planet. We‘ll hang here in space until we rot.’’
‘‘Brave words, Doctor. Do you value your life so little?’’
‘‘My only friends are dead, my TARDIS is missing, I‘m trapped in a universe which bears no relation to my own. I‘m not exactly glad to be alive at the moment. Death is becoming an attractive alternative.’’
is one of my favourite interactions in Eight‘s main range.
idk i just really wasn't that into it
Yeah same, it was a case of “too bleak, stopped caring”
@@merrynesther In my mind, the whole thing developed this really bleak, really oppressive atmosphere, death decay around everything in C’Rizz and Charlie’s segments, and things getting sort of Terry Gilliam-esq whenever that self-obsessed President was “onscreen” (I always imagining her looking like the elderly mom that was constantly getting cosmetic surgery to deage herself in Terry Gilliam’s Brazil).
Of course, the first time I listened to “The Last”, I was a passenger in a car, on my way to what would become my new home after years of living in a completely different US state, so listening to this dour and depressing audio drama ended up *_lifting_* my spirits because it helped me realize my problems were small, petty, and entirely shaped by my own negative outlook, by comparison.
I listened to the right story, at just the right time, so I always had more patience for its faults as a result. And frankly it just helps to listen to horror stories in dark rooms at night regardless of quality, it really sets the mood.
The Last is my favorite 8th story not written by Rob Shearman, it is an absolute CRIME to put it in the same category as Twilight Kingdom.
That Zagreus joke made me laugh to the point of coughing, good job
I don’t get it
@@colemacgrath2005 I just listenwd to it and me neither
The point is, there is no point. An Anti-Joke to represent Anti-Time @@avocadothecat
i love to come back here once a week and continue a little further in the video as i listen to more and more
I liked the divergent universe stuff after Zagreus. Okay, so for the life of me I can't remember what happened in any of them but I definitely enjoyed them at the time!
i relate to this comment so hard
Scherzo is amazing,the rest are a mixed bag
Personally think that Terror Firma deserves more credit.
yeah that's cool. had anyone else made it video, it probably would have gotten more credit. i just have a bit of a bias against dalek stories and i don't like them as much as most people do.
Terra Firma has one of my favorite McGann scenes when he, Charley and C'rizz first encounter Davros and the Daleks. It's just so cheeky, I love it.
was not expecting this niche to be filled
right place at the right time ig. i was listening to the charley stories as the michael rosen meme started trending so
I never, ever, want to see this footage in context
I was just realizing that I still don’t know what was in the bad syrup jug and I never want to know
I love Time Works and Something Inside, also very accurate depiction of NHOF, I don't mind Faith Stealer or The Last tbh xD
Caerdroia is some quality writing and I will never hear anything against it
don't worry i don't disagree. i absolutely adore caerdroia.
@@merrynesther Good thing you said that I was moments away from suing you
@@tribesman8424 👀
@@merrynesther I should add scherzo marks the peak of all humanity
@@tribesman8424 scherzo is very fun yeah
Chimes of midnight and NHOF contenders for best big finish story of all time
i didn't really enjoy NHOF as much as i wanted to but i agree
@@merrynesther my first listen I really wasn't a fan. Relistened a few times and it's incredible. So many ideas
@@tobiashudson4074 maybe i'll have to relisten then ^
Holy Terror for me
Way to fix Time of the Daleks: Remove the Daleks entirely.
You see when I last listened to it (which admittedly was about a year ago and was also for the first time) there was one line that really caught my attention (and please note I may be remembering it wrong but this was the general gist):
''In order to preserve Shakespeare we have to make sure he never exists.''
This is actually really interesting to me because as quite a critical person, when I'm watching a show that has gone significantly downhill since it began, I sometimes think 'if only it hadn't started it was never have been ruined.' So really what the story would have been far better as is a story where The Doctor and Charley stumble upon a group of people trying to travel back in time to trap Shakespeare before he begins writing so his plays can't ever be heard of and can only be experienced in a pocket universe, and perhaps when Shakespeare finds out he tries to escape and the climax would be The Doctor and Charley trying to return Shakespeare to his home.
Same thoughts as me!
I don't even know the context of Caerdroia but that clip you put to it has so much hilarious chaotic energy lol
Embrace the darkness is great :(
I've started listening to the 8th Doctor stories, but I've chosen to start with Blood of the Daleks rather than Storm Warning. The very idea that I might some day have to try and understand Zagreus scares me too much.
tbh it's not too hard to understand. i was scared of it at first as well lmao
Nice to see a Young Wilf embracing other Doctors.
I'm currently listening to the 8th Doctor Audio Series. I've listening up to The Chimes At Midnight and this video is pretty spot on. I need to finish the rest.
good luck
Am I the only person who likes The Time of the Daleks?
maybe. personally, i don't hate it but i don't love it. tbf im not overly fussed on many dalek stories anyway.
I quite like it
Sword of Orion is better on the second listen. I liked the creepy soundtrack and sound fx
The hate Embrace the Darkness gets is unjust 😭
I've been listening to these on and off for a few years now, just finished Scherzo. I remember quite liking Embrace the Darkness and Time of Daleks. I can't remember what happens in the latter, but I remember enjoying it. So far the only dud in my experience has been the Sword of Orion, and that was simply because I thought it was a bit dull.
I’m using this video as a guide to what to skip and what to listen to
imo you probably shouldn't because there's some in this video that i said i hated but are essential to the overall story like creed of the kromon, for example. i wouldn't really advise skipping any of them if this is your first time listening.
@@merrynesther that’s fair! Lol
The Time of the Daleks one was way to accurate!
Been listening to these for the first time. I just finished seasons of fear. Rly liked it! One line from Charley killed me though 😂😂
"I am thoroughly CHEERED"
Besides Stones of Venice, Other Lives and Time Works (Don’t care for it too much), pretty much all my thoughts lmao.
Other lives and the last are brilliant, imo.
Faith stealer is pretty good too.
But Embrace the darkness is streets ahead of creed or Absolution, imo.
Im a little confised on the Storm Warning one if you liked it or not. One of my favorite "First Episodes"
i like it but mcgann's performance is off (which makes sense because it was his first time in ages playing the doctor)
@@merrynesther yeah he was a bit more energetic and reckless but I just love the bit where SPOILER
a 1930s blimp captain kicks the shit out of an alien embodiment of war
I'm so happy to find a fellow Next Life hater lol. That one almost made me dislike Charley with how she was written
Invaders from Mars was the first 8th audio I heard and I loved it
yeah it's great
@@merrynesther I mean it's an audio drama that explores the circumstances around the most infamous radio drama broadcast in history
As someone who thought embrace the darkness was really boring I approve this reaction to it
the problem is it had grounds to be a good story it's just... not. it's so boring.
@@merrynesther definitely, it’s likely one of the reasons why I haven’t gone back to listen to the rest of the 8th Doctor audios in ages. A bad drama at least something visual to look at to keep you engaged, an audio drama doesn’t have that so if it’s boring you’re also going to be completely lost & have no idea what’s going on
@@BH-98 yeah the monthly range can be a real pain in the ass to trek through but the gems like chimes, seasons of fear and caerdroia make it worth it imo. completely understand why you'd give up tho, that was me for the first year of me trying to get into them lmao
My specialty
The Last is awesome
kisses you like a mob boss
2:46 Wait, so was it good or bad?
no thought head empty (i actually fell asleep halfway through when i was listening to it)
Perfect review of Time of the Daleks lol
I wonder what people think of that 8th dr audio caller The Cannibalists.
I’ve listened to Storm Warning, Sword of Orion, Chimes of Midnight, Time of the Daleks, Neverland, attempted Zagreus, Scherzo, Faith Stealer, Terror Firma, Scaredy Cat, Memory Lane, Time Works, and The Girl Who Never Was.
Storm Warning is erm, a story, it does it’s job and I love the cast.
Sword of Orion low key I can’t remember.
Chimes of Midnight is possibly my favorite Doctor Who story.
Time of the Daleks is so boring because it really just feels like they CTRL + c CTRL + V-ed Evil of the Daleks
Neverland is a weird wacky wonderful and WILD story. Loved the Easter egg mention of Terserus at the beginning.
Zagreus is actually the most confused I’ve ever been in my life. Gave up after part one.
Scherzo is actually the most uncomfortable I’ve been watching, listening, or reading to Doctor Who in my life. No idea why people love it so much.
Faith Stealer :/
Terror Firma is probably the most fun I’ve had listening to a Dalek story.
Time Works is so good I love it.
Memory Lane is erm… something. It’s enjoyable but it’s quite the ride.
The Girl Who Never Was is one of the most incredibly well put together and heartbreaking companion goodbyes with some solid action by my favorite Doctor Who baddies. The timey-wimey nature and the way in which the Doctor decides it’s time to move on and let Charlie on her own is some of the most incredible stuff written by Alan Barnes.
Seasons of Fear is god tier Doccy Who
Now do one for the Eighth Doctor and Lucie Miller adventures
i would but i haven't gotten around to listening to them yet 🙃
@@merrynesther The first season is free on spotify so start there. I've liked the ones I've listened to, the first three, but haven't really felt the need to listen to any more.
@@shortangel333 yeah i know they're free on spotify, i just don't have the time right now plus i'm a completionist so i would've bought them anyway
@@merrynesther I mean I more say to listen to them on spotify to get a free taste of them and if you don't like it then skip it. They hardly put them on sale too.
Time of the Daleks and Absolution ratings!
what are you on alternate
@@merrynesther I am unsure
How is the last weak :(
i dunno i just didn't enjoy it as much as my friends were hyping it up to be
I just finished Scherzo, Zargreus and Neverland and I don't get the joke tbh xD
What has a Lamp post to do with Zagreus?
i'm gonna be real i made this like, 2 years ago and haven't listened to zagreus since. i think there was a scene like it but i genuinely can't remember.
@@merrynesther I listened to it yesterday and I already forgot half the stuff that happened ngl xD
It is hella confusing. Also evil Brigadier TARDIS.
@@avocadothecat yeah that happens a lot with big finish. i've either forgotten most of it or fallen asleep
1:18 XD
I will not have this slander on Minuet in Hell. I enjoyed that one ;-; Chimes of Midnight SLAPS tho thats true
So what ones should I listen to
all of them.
AMAZING
very accurate
I disagree with Embrace the Darkness, but otherwise yea
fair enough. i don't really like embrace the darkness that much at all but i can see why people like it.
Okay but now do the Lucie Miller EDA's. 😏
time and money aren't on my side atm maybe one day i'll get around to listening to them
I won’t tolerate such slander for Minuet in Hell, I happened to rather enjoy it
Minuet in Hell isn‘t a good story but it‘s absolutely hilarious, I like it
@@nix.i Nah, I think it's good, I found it to be really enjoyable
Never really got the hype about Chimes or Scherzo.
One is too overly sentimental, and the other relies on cheap jump scares.
He needed to be more over the top for the Chimes of Midnight because it's overrated. The 8th Doctor as part of the monthly range was window dressing. The 8th doctor doesn't really start at Big finish until the EDAs start with Blood of the Daleks.
it's based off of my own opinions and i genuinely liked chimes and don't think it's overrated at all so-
I actually agree, the Eighth Doctor monthlies weakest part is the Eighth doctor. Charely and C'rizz are just so much better.
I actually much prefer the monthlies over the EDAs imo. The EDAs were more consistent, but the Charlie era just had a ton of incredible stories that the EDAs were never on the same level as until the 4th series.
I agree about Chimes.
Don't really get the big orgasm over Rob Shearman. 🤷♂️