Can OLED TVs Work Well As PC Monitors?
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My PC is hooked up to an LG C2 and I love it. I don't think I'll go to a monitor anytime soon.
Yea I game on my 65’ oled with a couch desk board
Just got a cx 48 basically new for 400 a couple days ago, LG do be Lifes Good
Same here. Got the 42” LG C2 and it’s incredible! That’s after returning the Asus PG42UQ due to washed out HDR.
I bet femboys look great in 4K
Same, use a 120 hertz Samsung OLED TV and can't go back to a tiny monitor
Using a 42' LG C3 has been incredible.
Video editing and gaming are so easy and comfortable.
Also upgraded after my previous samsung tv died for LG C3 55 tv. Really happy with it. PS5 games look incredible.
Are there still white uniformity issues?
@@dl5fse990 Compared to what? To an average LCD monitor? It's significantly better. Not only is OLED better at color reproduction, it has better viewing angles, so they remain more accurate from more angles.
Compared to a reference monitor? I'd say it's respectable. Like I mentioned earlier, I've been editing videos on it. (I edit commercials for a living) and it has never been an issue. You do have to play around with settings a bit, but that's true of most monitors.
Same. It's fantastic. Gaming, editing and Resolve grading all a joy.
Im using an LG B9 55inch and works well even for counter strike competitive. Have this for like 4 years now.
I have an LG C2 42" and whilst the larger size took me a while to get use to, I wouldn't go back. The benefits of OLED far outway any real negatives. It looks gorgeous playing PC/PS5 games and movies in particular look outstanding. I'm careful not to leave the set running when I'm not at my PC, to ensure it doesn't suffer any potential burn-in but other then that it's been fine.
I'm always blown away by the knowledge you guys have. It made me giggle to find Alex not knowing what eArc was
Been using a 48” LG CX as my monitor for over 3 years. By far the best “monitor” I have ever owned. Zero burn-in with thousands of hours gaming/web browsing on it. ABL is a bit annoying at times, but overall I do not regret the purchase.
a 5$ LG Service Remote from Amazon will cure that ABL issue. Takes less than 5 minutes from getting it out the package to fix. Just did it on my new 48 C3. Cheers.
@@J.Wick. Yeah I had been thinking of doing that since the TV is out of warranty now anyways
ABL?@@J.Wick.
@@LK-cy5xe augmented black level...
@@J.Wick. automatic brightness limiter
I've been using a TV as a monitor for over 10 years, been on OLED since the C9.
Absolutely. I’m using a 42” LG C2 as my daily driver and I absolutely love it. 120Hz, VRR, HDR, ALLM. Perfect 4K picture quality. Hard to top it for most things. Text is crisp and clear; easy on the eyes. Really no major downsides IMO.
It's good if your rig can handle high frame rates, but if you're a console gamer like me it sucks because the motion clarity is awful. I'll take a plasma any day of the week.
I have been using my PC with the LG C1 and it's been amazing.
cyberpunk on the 42 inch LG C2, 4k 120 is 👌👌👌👌
@@jeff1333it's nice if you adjust for the raised blacks level in hdr. I use a black floor fix reshade shader but you can also adjust the fine-tune dark areas on the tv itself for that.
My LG CX has over 8000 hours as desktop monitor and absolutely no burn in. Now i use the Samsung S95C. I'll never go back to a monitor. OLED TVs have better picture processing/quality than OLED monitors. I play mainly single player games and in my opinion they look the best on an OLED TV. Every single time I play games like CP2077 I can not believe how good it looks. Gaming in 4K 144hz on 55'' QD-OLED was the best decision i could take.
I got a 65 S90C for my kids with a ps5. The tv is unbelievably. The colors are fantastic.
I have the same 2 tvs but i have a pc with 4090,this is so looking good
I'm on a QN90C and love it+
Interesting point, I never thought of what kind of processor the oled monitors use, like the 27” LG compared to my 48” C1. So you think the a9 processors we have are better than what’s in the monitors? For tv/movie viewing I know it is for sure, curious about gaming. I wonder why they don’t tell us what processors they use lol
I adore playing all my PC games on my 55 inch C1. I'm able to sit back on the couch, use a controller, and it's so comfy. Steam's Big Picture Mode and my Stream Deck+ reduce how often I need to reach for the keyboard.
It's a very console like experience, with all the cool benefits of a PC. The display itself is also gorgeous 💖💖💖
I used an LG CX 55” as a PC monitor for 3 years, and it was amazing! No regrets at all.
Been using a 48" LG C1 OLED as my monitor for a couple years. It is incredible
I think you guys should/can cover additional Audio Video hardware. Game content is harder to come by these days but I think talking about monitors, TVs, speakers, bluetooth codecs in the context of gaming would be really cool.
Comparing different HDR implications for games across different TVs and spreading that education would be really fun to listen to from you guys.
Keep it up!
Don't know about the rest of the team, but at least John is friends with the 2 guys from the My Life In Gaming channel. Which is an excellent channel.
Hardware unboxed does monitors btw and they measure lag, HDR and more :)
For anyone wondering. I have the lg c2 for photography purposes and gaming. And for the photo side of things. It reproduces almost exactly the same colors as my iPhone and MacBook Pro. Yes I did have to tweak it. But I got it to look almost exactly.
Having an LG G3 connected to a 4090. 1500 nits (for real), incredibly shiny. G-Sync is working flawlessly. Thanks to LGTVCompanion it behaves mostly like a PC monitor; wakes up with the PC, goes to sleep with the PC, and chooses the correct input. Only downside is slight flickering in dark areas when frame time is fluctuating, apparently a problem _all_ OLEDs have.
FYI, new 2024 LG OLED panels have fixed color fringing issue caused by the RWBG subpixel arrangement. The new panels now feature a proper RGWB layout, with 144hz support to boot. TFT Central covered this in his latest video.
The text fringing issue found on QD-OLED panels, due to its unusual triangular subpixel layout, is an entirely separate issue.
@silverjoystix4696 I’m pretty sure this is confirmed, it’s why they use new 144hz panels rather than the older 120hz Evo panels, it’s an entirely new panel display.
That’s why they’re now called META panels or 3rd Gen WOLED, rather than EVO or 2nd Gen WOLED. Again, all covered in TFT Central, all 2024 panels will use a RGWB subpixel layout from the older RWBG subpixel layout.
LG C3 42" indie game developer here and its a breeze, for all! 3d modeling, animation, video editing and playing. Coming from other display not OLED, IPS 32 inches, 42 inch for productivity is on another level. Not looking for a monitor anymore. This does the job and cheaper than the ones (OLED pc displays) that are coming out, not need to break the bank. Text is clear no problem with that at all.
I have a monitor hooked up to my PC, but I game on my 65" 4KTV.
Having the power of a PC & the comfort of couch gaming is the best.
After years of switching between dozens of panels, I am finally satisfied and can't do without it anymore. I use the LG C3 42 for both work and gaming.
thanks for making videos like this. I have been holding back from using my OLED as a pc monitor but if Alex is finally giving in than I feel a little better about it now.
Why didn't you just do it anyways? Linus Tech tips recommended a 48" c1 years ago.
Seriously? You had to wait for permission from Alex? Dude...
@@PrussianBlu3imagine listening to ltt …….. 🤦♂️🙈
ABL is very aggressive on OLED
@@CasepbX let my guy be as cautious as he wants to br
Been using 42" LG C1 for 1 year and 3 months, and it is been amazing "monitor" so far. The colour is amazing, the deep black is unmatched, and the refresh rate of 120hz is silky smooth, and I can watch TV when my computer is doing its own thing.
been using my 48" LG C1 as a monitor for years now with zero issues, i'm using it right now. highly recommend it.
LG C3 42 here as monitor for Mac work and PC gaming. Best decision I ever made moving from an Ultra Wide. Love it. Can even turn off auto dimming in the engineer menu.
I use a LG C2 48" as my PC monitor. Buttery Taskbar is your friend for hiding the taskbar better than the Windows inbuilt. If you play on HDR, Plasma TV for Gaming is a good channel to look at for HDR settings for individual games.
I use AutoHideDesktopIcons to hide the taskbar and desktop icons. Works great on windows 11.
Thanks for the tip about Buttery Taskbar!
Would also recommend TranslucentTB
Oooh I’ll take a look at these thanks
TranslucentTB is awesome
I'd say mini leds (with at least 500 dimming zones) would be the best to use as a PC Monitor. No worries and precautions needed that comes along with an OLED display. Mini leds can get much brighter than an OLED but of course can't get perfect blacks but it's getting close each year. 100% cheaper too as most OLED monitors right now are as expensive as OLED TVs. The Innocn 27M2V really kills it as a mini led monitor.
Used a 32m2v and sent it back partly because the matte coating muted colors. Insanely bright, yes, but in sdr my LG GQ850-B did better. Once you start using HDR and seek 4K videos the lg c3 jumps up very high because it gets those feeds and quality that doesnt exist on a monitor only from apps. The cable management was bad because of port placement, and it has no spdif so I couldnt get audio from my dac to say an apple tv by using the monitor. My casing of the display was also kind of separating. The panel itself was pristine. Using those buttons to control osd is annyoing asf over time.
Basically if 80% productivity and hdr gaming yes great choice, great text crispy, once you start doing more video hdr stuff an lg c3 is better - and even in hdr games it looks more real tbh.
Kind of a shame because in dark hdr with bright fires the innocn slaps c3, but in mixed scenes I felt the innocn didnt have enough juice (contrast) and I feel the matte coating contributes to that since my mbp miniled looks great in those.
I came away thinking for desktop use just stick with an sdr beast like the gq850-b or 950-b and ignore hdr on desktop, or get an oled tv or monitor. Hdr on desktop looks bad even after windows hdr calibration on innocn, the lg c3 looks good. Innocn speakers are underwater bad tier, lg c3 speakers are useable tier.
42" LG C series users are like Buzz Lightyear in the toy exhibit
Using a 42" C3 for my desktop. Set up with PC, Macbook and PS5. Very happy with performance as a monitor, when not gaming I keep the screen in SDR mode at 60 brightness which seems to eliminate any brightness changes. No burn in yet, despite often static content on the screen while studying
You guys are a good team. Each of you have their specialty and combined together it's the A- Team💪
samsung s90c 144hz g sync at full 4;4;4 chroma 4k . 13900k + rtx 4090
Please do a video on black frame insertion on this TV. People need to know. Also the service menu trick to boost brightness in that mode.
Yeah it's a faff to get to work. I had to disable vrr on the ps5 and g-sync on the TV
I have a 42" LG OLED C3 on my desk, and a 77" C3 in my living room connected back to my PC via fibre optic HDMI cable and it's absolutely perfect. The only annoyances are to do with how Windows handles HDR. Sometimes I have to toggle HDR on/off to fix my screen going really dark. But that's about it. Only other thing to keep in mind is having a screensaver on to avoid burn-in, but I usually just turn off the screen when I'm getting up to use the bathroom or get some food.
Windows 11 handles HDR much better, I updated to 11 after buying the 42 inch oled
@@bonaventuraxyz weird, that's what I've been using the whole time.
Been gaming exclusively on my 77” LG GX with BFI 120 in a room with no lights for 2 years now and could never go back to anything else. I can’t recommend this setup highly enough.
How are you getting 120fps AND bfi please?
42" LG C2 since it came out and still going strong and still loving it. Run a decent PC and mainly BF2042 for gaming and consistently hit over the TV's refresh rate and everything is smooth as butter
EARC is probably more useful when you've got a big surround sound home theater receiver that has all your inputs plugged into it and uses the TV for video out. The audio from content that originates from the TV will be able to treat the HDMI from receiver to TV as an audio input, sending surround sound audio channels to the receiver. It will also pass through audio from any source plugged directly into the TV. It's great when it works. Although early versions of it would down-sample when passed through certain TV's. My old Samsung and LG 3D TVs would only pass stereo through the ARC and EARC, but most recent TV's will pass through DTS and Dolby Atmos at high bitrates with EARC.
Would recommend Ergotron HX monitor arm, it's designed for 47" curved monitors and can easily handle a 48" TV. Just need to grab a VESA adapter plate or similar to go from 100mm standard for monitors to the 200mm or 300mm mounts that larger TVs use.
Just played Control on my 65" oled hdr and it was supricingly immersive. I was looking around like it was vr.
Its like halfwaypoint between lcd and vr.
4k dlss is a gamechanger.
It won't be necessary starting this year. 32" 4K @ 240Hz is finally here boys. Cheers!
I have a 48 inch lg c1 oled as my monitor for my work laptop and had a 55 c9 lg oled for my consoles and PC. Recently I upgraded to a lg c3 oled 77'. All of them are awesome, none using with computer menus got burn in til now. The oled c9 unfortunately got the red youtube burned at the top right corner, so caveat about letting youtube TV app menus for long time. Other than that, nothing, for a TV that I bought in 2019 that's impressive. VRR options in 77 c3 are really detailed, it can use gsync while using my pc with rtx 3080 and when its working on PS5 and XBSX it change to freesync premium.
I like the c1 48” stand because it’s short and lets me keep my mouse pad. And for text, I just use 150% scaling at 4k. It’s too small for me otherwise
Listening to Alex figure out an HDMI cord made my day.
If you're going to be gaming on an OLED screen I HIGHLY RECOMMEND trying out a QD-OLED! NEXT LEVEL GAMING!
OLED is legit amazing, IMO when a game maximizes it's use, it's more impressive than going from 1080 to 4k details. I purchased a ROG Swift OLED PG42UQ and it's been perfect for all my gaming needs. Games that are transformed by OLED include Spiderman 2, Overwatch 2 and to a certain extent Alan Wake 2. It also has 4k, HDMI 2.1, Gsync compatible and console VRR support and the price is very reasonable too. Pretty much does everything. The only worry is burn in, but turning it off when not in use goes a long way, I'm yet to see any with regular use but still early days.
I actually have my 48 c1 mounted on a monitor stand (ergotron hx) and it's anxiety inducing to move around but it works perfectly when positioned
My gaming PC is used in the living room and it works great. Way better than it was 10 years ago (VRR, 4k, HDR, 120hz, low latency « gaming » modes, etc.). Very pleasant experience.
I use these for my PC.
LG OLED55CX5LB OLED HDR 4K Smart TV 55 inch
MONITOR ALIENWARE 34 CURVED QD-OLED HDR GAMING MONITOR - AW3423DW
(QHD 3440 x 1440 - 21:9 Aspect Ratio - 175 Hz Refresh Rate)
I've been using my C2 42" as a monitor for 1.5 years now, and its awesome. Wont upgrade until I can get 42" 240 hz OLED.
I have a 37” C2 and I think the only real downside is the 120hz, sometimes there’s some noticeable screen tearing if I try playing above 200 fps. Obviously capping at like 144 or 165 solves that but still it’d be nice to not have to worry about tearing if you wanna play something uncapped
Motion Pro (LG's version of BFI) Medium or High + Deblur 10 = motion perfection. It is AMAZING! But it doesn't work at the same time as gsync. So you have a choice: Minor screen tearing or blurring. I choose the motion clarity perfection, along with a frame rate limiter to keep the screen tearing down.
You shouldn't have screen tearing. That's what Vsync is for, and you need to tweak resolution and settings so you don't drop below the 60hz or 120hz lock.
I'm using a 65in LG C1. Been using it for over a year now, love it.
I have been using the LG OLED Flex for a year now. I've tried several other QD-OLED and WRGB OLED monitors with higher refresh rates but kept coming back.
Ultimately I hope to move to the 32" 4k QD-OLEDs that are around the corner.
I got a new TV a while ago and initially it looked real bad on my PC (out of focus and the weird colour stuff)...
i reinstalled nvidia drivers which fixed the weird and limited resolutions in control panel
and ran the windows display wizard (calibrate display colour in control panel) a few times to adjust things,
it came out much better.
My old monitor broke and I ended up using my 65" CX for almost 3 years. Obviously it's enormous so I had to move my desk back from it etc, but eventually I got used to it and to be honest for so many things it's totally unmatched. It was too big for things like cs2, but for productivity it was perfect, for single player games it's like playing in IMAX, and now I have a 1440p OLED monitor I switch between the two depending on the game so I can still enjoy that immersion.
Obviously the HDR and motion clarity of OLED is incredible for OLED, and so if you don't have the issue if size, like with a 42", then the answer is yes - an OLED TV (with HGIG enabled) is an amazing pc monitor.
3440x1440p OLED is peak my friend. It’s a lot of pixels but less than 4k. It might be a middle ground for you! I retired 4K since the odyssey has such a solid PPI and great HDR.
Equally loved alan wake 2 although I only used RT with Alan’s sections as saga I preferred high frames :)
What hurts to see is a lack of component cable options now, seems that to carry on past consoles to modern tvs we'll need upscalers, its becoming a real money sink now.
The 120hz bfi was quite good, the flicker at 60hz makes it unusable.
On my old GX, I remember I had some troibles to activate the BFI while in game mode.
But warning : activate BFI does bit allow to activate VRR
As long as OLED PC monitors do not have De-Judder and De-Blur like features, I won't ditch my 42" C3 OLED in favour of them.
Those two things add input lag and processing to the signal. That is anathema for a platform where KBM is the norm.
@@RicochetForce De-Judder 10/10 for single player 30FPS games.
De-Blur 10/10 for 60FPS games.
It's my choice and it's a visual treat.
@@CrashBashL it's a visual treat, but it comes at an input lag cost that the PC market will (rightfully) not tolerate. That's why that feature isn't present. TV use encounters a ton of media that is sub 60 (shows at 30, movies at 24) where this makes sense.
@@RicochetForce Right.
But it's not a reason not to have to option there for those who want to use it. Like me.
@@CrashBashL If the option to include those options comes with a high enough opportunity cost, companies won't add those options. Not enough people in the PC monitor market care about those features, and more dislike the added input lag they'd add. Add in the cost in hardware and software to implement and it's no surprise they don't even offer it.
Got my pc hooked to a 65" Samsung S95c. Was a 55" before that. It's completely viable and gaming is god tier. Even use it for work
Been using LG CX 55” solely on home pc since 2021. First hour or so was odd but not too big then at all, surprisingly. I browse web, RUclips, game, edit photos. No need to say it’s pretty immersive 😮
Bought the LG C1 a few years ago…I still get impressed with the visuals.
I have to agree about the PC monitor market space being awful. Besides OLED PC monitors often being poor value for money, the standard LED solutions just don't look very good when put under scrutiny. It seems so bizarre to me that we have monitors that cost hundreds, and hundreds, of dollars but don't do local dimming, don't have built-in speakers and even handle HDR poorly due to a variety of different factors. It is quite telling that many companies often choose to sell their displays based on how fast they perform, and what refresh rate they can feasibly operate at, when these are only smaller facets to their quality as a piece of hardware. I have used a 48 inch LG OLED CX as a PC Monitor since Mid 2021 and have never looked back since then.
Nobody remotely serious will use built-in speakers.
#1. There is nothing "small" about companies focusing on the primary function of their product. Resolution, refresh rate, pixel response times, display tech. All those "small" details are critical and effect the final experience.
#2. Why would you need speakers in the monitor? PC users have headphones and speakers in their setups. That just inflates the price of the monitor.
#3. The profit margins for larger monitors isn't very good, especially for OLEDs. Notice how they don't exist in smaller sizes, because it's not profitable to make smaller sizes yet.
If you want to see what high quality monitors look like, check out the professional space. And then look at their obscene prices.
@@RicochetForce
#1. I said "smaller", but sure, take me out of context. I am not dense enough to pretend that having low lag isn't preferable. The problem I have with lag stems from the manner in how manufacturers are actually giving that information out: It is poor and confusing, atleast from a consumer perspective. Even the Leo Bodnar Lag tester isn't a perfect way of measuring delay. Bad render times can completely negate the benefits of a higher refresh rate. Lower pixel response times are great, especially for motion, but motion will forever be an issue with digital sample & hold displays, atleast from a gaming perspective anyway.
#2. Why not have built-in speakers? It is a quality of life feature that alot of people ask for and can be very convenient if you don't have any headphones/external speakers to hand. Just because you don't have a use for built-in speakers doesn't automatically mean other people don't either. I use the built-in speakers on my display nearly all the time.
#3. Are you going to tell me how to suck an egg as well? I know there is not much profit in selling hardware, I worked in an electronics shop for nearly ten years, it is not very good. Look at it from a buyer's perspective however: It is fair to say that options for higher quality monitors, especially at a smaller size, are limited and they don't offer much for the money either. Feel free to disagree, I really don't care. I bought a 48 inch OLED TV because, at the end of the day, that was the right option for me.
Been using a new old stock CX for almost a year now as a monitor. Love it. Have 120 Hz BFI high on always. Racking up hours quickly though...
I’ve had my pc in the lounge for a number of years. I don’t watch a lot of to, and do watch a lot of RUclips. My latest set up is LG TV with Apple 4kTV, plugged into the eARC hdmi, and two HomePods. All my hdmi inputs, PC, PS5 and Switch play out thru the HomePods. ( I do also have two KRK 5s for better music listening plugged into the headphone out on the TV but it’s too much bass for general use and would annoy the neighbours below 😂)
Once you get used to OLED, LCD panels look muddy. There is no going back.
Using as a monitor at TV distance for a Mini ITX system, no desktop icons, auto-hide taskbar, frequent wallpaper change, 2 mins blank screen screen-saver option, avoid HDR except for games that benefit - as HDR sets a high OLED Light setting, 200% desktop scaling (in the past some apps had issues with dpi scaling), plus a dolby atmos surround system
Also, using an LG48A1 on ps5.
Will probably upgrade later this year to a c3/c4.
Oled is beautiful
I've been using TVs as PC monitors since 2010 with a 32" LG LCD 1080p TV. I usually had a pretty great experience with TVs as PC monitors. Like... ever.
Been using a Sony 55" KD-55XE9005 since 2018 - was the last of the LEDs in 2017/2018. A mid-range tv but great contrast and natural picture quality. I would never go back to a monitor.
S90c 77 inch, it's fantastic as a monitor for me.
Probably the best gaming oled on the market right now.
55" Samsung S95C here and a C9 I had before that. Been using OLED as a monitor since 2019. No regrets, it blows monitors out of the water, can double as a TV, and is cheaper than a good 27" local dimming monitor in Australia.
Been using C2 for 3 years as remote work monitor / gaming. Perfect!
Using the LG C2 OLED which looks great for me.
I've been using a 42 inch C2 as a monitor for a few months and adore it. Will never, ever go back.
Yes they do! Got my LG G1 with my daughters 3080 PC cable drilled through the wall into the living room. 😊
also you should check that you have specified *HDMI input as PC on LG TV*
why to choose LG as monitor and not sony for example? LG uses light pixel refresher every time you turn off tv, this helps with image retention and image burn in. SO, DONT LET IT RUN ALL THE TIME WITH BLACK SCREEN WITHOUT TURNING TV OFF OR YOU WILL GET BURN IN! (some ppl like to turn off auto turn off to compensate all the time ready to not bother about tv remote)
i got good BF deal on C3 42" with my macbook, no regrets. (hint fior mac, use cablematters usbc hdmi adapter with FW update that lets you run 4k 120Hz HDR RGB)
for 2weeks a was testing C2, C3 is slightly brighter and better in some cases, if C2 would be better deal I would stay on C2 anyway.
on my C1 77" with PS 5 console I also selected HDMI input as PC, this fixes me smooth gradation problem
I’m waiting for a next gen QD OLED 4K monitor at 240hz or higher. Might as well go all in.
If you guys could ever find out a way to eARC from pc directly to an AV receiver, that would be amazing. I've been trying to do that for years. Also, eARC from the TV into the PC would be amazing also. I'm kinda baffled why Nvidia and AMD don't have eARC built into their video cards.
It would make life with surround sound SO much easier.
Baffles me too, that ther isn't an USB->HDMI Soundcard for 10 bucks available. should be so easy to put out the bitstreams onto the 2 pins on the HDMI plug.
The disconnect between PC hardware manufacturers and AV receivers is insane. Even big brands like Denon advise people not to connect PCs to them. Which is fucking stupid considering the ubiquity of PCs as AV sources.
Not sure what you mean by eARC direct from PC to AV receiver. But you can get a box that takes the eARC from the TV and sends the audio into an AV input on your receiver. That's what I've got on my setup, I plug my PS5 and PC with 4k120VRR into the tv inputs then use this box to take the eARC from the tv into an HDMI input on my older AV 5.1 receiver that doesn't support eARC. This gives me uncompressed 5.1 into the receiver from my PS5 and PC and DD+ from the tv's streaming apps. The device I use for this is an "orei hda-927 eARC extractor"
@black543211000 Plug your PC directly into your AV receiver as a source. Then connect the AVR's eARC port to your ztV's eARC port. It should work perfectly 🥰 .
LG C1, good choice, I made that same one a year or so ago
funny that I also have a 10900K and 3090 which is what Alex used to test various games
Not only they work 'well' but its evolution Morpheus, evolution
I got my 42 C2 since 2022. Have it hooked up to Win 11 PC at 4K 120 HDR GSync, PS5, and Switch. Loving it so far. Now, hearing about how good BFI is on your C1 got me intrigued. Cause I couldn't stand the noticable flickering in my C2 if BFI is on, so I never even touch it anymore. I also know about that BFI downgrade on C2 before buying. But at last, the 42 C2 was cheaper than 48 C1 at the time. And my room can only fit a 42 inch TV. But yeah, OLED TV for PC works gloriously for games and 4K media consumption.
The C1 was downgraded too compared to CX in regards to BFI. The CX is still king of motion. It's a shame they kept on downgrading it until it eventually was removed.
@@constantingeorgiu268kings of motion clarity are the old 3d lg, Samsung, or Sony TVs.
What kills BFI for me is that you no longer get access to VRR. Fixed refresh rate is so dead to me after getting a VRR capable display.
@@MLWJ1993 I can see how that can be an issue to some, It still feels better to me locked at either 60hz with bfi and of course 120hz locked with bfi.
On the CX the motion clarity looks the same even at 60hz but brightness takes a hit.
I upgraded to a 4090 and with some tweaks even the latest alan wake 2 runs locked 4k 120
While its not ideal because you need performance, the best experience you are going to get is locked 4k 120hz with HDR and max BFI. VRR is useful if you cant hit the performance target
@@constantingeorgiu268 I've never had a completely smooth output with fixed refreshrates. Doesn't matter what I cap the framerate at. There's always that one frame that drops somewhere that would cause a visible stutter without VRR. I'm much more sensitive to that than some motionblur I suppose.
I have a C1 and will be getting another for my PC build, no doubt, hands down best display I have ever owned. Had Panasonic Plasma (mid tier) back in 2010 and imo it’s better. Can’t wait to finalize my PC setup and play these games like Alan Wake 2, Cyberpunk 2077 all at ultra settings.
Plasma was great. I still have my GT60 plasma. The only display that matched or even exceeded that was the CX which I have it now as my main monitor display. I heard good things about the C1 in regards to brightness when using BFI so I wanted an upgrade but it turned out was actually massively downgraded compared to CX when it came to motion and BFI.
I love both my plasma and my cx oled but after setting it up correctly I actually have better motion and better brightness than the plasma.
@@constantingeorgiu268 when the CX dropped I really wanted it but I wasn’t making enough money when it dropped. I had just started a new career path and by the time I was ready, the C1 dropped and I couldn’t really find a CX. My only problem is with all the research I did leading to my purchase of the C1 I just didn’t think about how much natural light I have in my living room. Still love my C1 but if I could go back I might have gotten a Mini LED for my living room. All in all extremely happy with it though
I generally game with my pc hooked up to my 65” CX on the couch with a controller and play it like a console. Especially since current gen consoles fall short of 60 fps still and don’t have as good of resolutions. I know I’m not an elite PC gamer, but I view desk, chair, mouse, keyboard, and monitor as a work / productivity setup. I like being on the couch with my controller when gaming.
Don't mind those elitist asswipes. What you're doing IS PC gaming, it's the beauty of PC's flexibility.
I have a Samsung 55 OLED connected to my PC with a 10m optical HDMI 2.1 cable, i use a wireless mechanical keyboard + logitech G305 (to browse the OS)
Wireless xbox elite 2 controller for gaming using the official dongle, its great 👍
My main desk setup has a Samsung G7 1440P 240HZ, i use the desk setup solely for multiplayer games and use keyboard + mouse
I don't have any game that hasn't automatically picked up on the 120Hz and I haven't even noticed TV modes or whatever you would notice in games. using a used LG B9 55", been using it nearly 2 years now (and 0 burn-in yet, despite me using it for over 12h a day on average!)
The only things that don't make it a seamless experience is 1. having to use a remote to turn it on/off and seeing your TV app drawer in the lower 4th when you turn it on, and 2. HDR. This one is entirely unrelated to it being a TV, it's just that there's compatibility issues with Windows and HDR (at least on Windows 10, idk about 11)
Also, fringing is not visible to me at all and I have good eye sight. If your TV looks anything like what you've showed in this video, I'm glad I got a B9 instead...
The main issue with BFI is the drop in light output. Some are OK with it but it severely drops HDR lumens. My C1 has 120Hz which I am guessing he has. The C2 and C3 dropped BFI to 60Hz.
I think I tried it once on my b9 and didn't like it. Knowing me I probably didn't set it up correctly though. Maybe it even is one of if those settings that you have to remember to turn on and off when required?
I’m using a 48 C1 for BFI & a 27GR95QE for FPS. Been nothing but impressed.
Been using a C2 for over a year now with zero issues.
And if your GPU supports VRR it's even better.
Real shame they removed 90hz and 120hz BFI on the C2.
Explains why it flickers so much when I tried to use it.
Yeah VRR causes brightness flicker in dark areas of the screen while playing games. I solved it by reducing the refresh rate to 100 hz without turning off the VRR.
Alex, try a big screen mounting and tilt the c1 a bit. It's so much better for working. It's much easier to see and read all the text and stuff on the side of the monitor. You will not regret it
I hated having an OLED TV for my PC. The occasional UI pop-up in the corner was annoying. Manually turning the TV on and off was annoying. Software updates were annoying. What else...
After LG C1 as pc monitor I won’t go for small monitors. Fantastic performance both for games and movies. 120Hz BFI very good)
48 Inch LGC1 has been great. 3840x1620 Ultrawide resolution has been a game changer for performance gain and when combined with DLSS almost always allows me to achieve 120 fps on my 3080.
I used mine cx 65" ad ultrawide with custom res 3840 x 1440 and it is amazing
I love my C1 LG OLED as a gaming monitor. Picture quality is amazing! My only complaint is the screen is so large I loose sight of my mouse in competitive games with fast mouse movement like League
I have been using a 48" LG CX since launch week for the 48" size. So 3.5 years now. Has 12,100 hours on it as my primary desktop pc display. No burn in. Only in the last few weeks has there been any issues which is a dead pixel about 3 pixels from the bottom edge of the display. Other than that it's been perfect. I am hoping a 42" 240hz comes to pass soon so I can replace this one as my primary. My 4090 is starving for more fps at 4k.
Thats great to hear, have you been baby sitting your oled, or just using it as a pc monitor ? i mean do you have shortcuts on your oled, and have taskbar showing etc, and a black screensaver background etc / thx
@@ChrisDaytrader I do not use icons, I prefer Taskbar/start menu anyway. I do have auto hide task bar on and I use dark mode on everything regardless if it's on oled or not. Better for my eyes. Background I use wallpaper engine with 60+ animated backgrounds that cycle every 15 min. Most are very colorful. That all said... I would set my pc up that way even if I didn't daily an oled. As far as how I use it... I leave RUclips open in theater mode rather than full screen so all my chrome tabs are visible at least 80% of the time. I'd say the tabs/chrome not being full screen is the biggest threat to burn in... But it has not burned in after 12k hours.
I have a 55" Hisense U*K and good lord its awesome. 144hz, quantum pixels, miniled, 1000 dimming zones, freesync premium pro vrr with 48~144hz range and super low latency along with 1500+ nits and support for every major hdr standard. All for $699. Can't beat it.
I've been using a 48" CX for the past 4 years and It's been great.
I have been using my LG 48 C1 as my gaming monitor for months. I have had no issues at all.
C1 77" lg here been great. I got my theater reclining chair with a leather weight bench backrest for keyboard and mouse. But most gaming is with controller and don't feel like I'm missing out.
Welcome to the console experience lol I recently bought a PC and i'm so much happyer running it on my LG C1 with an Xbox controller and for video editing the TV is so much better. Times to cramp up behind a desk are over
I tried a 42" C2 OLED and it was simply too big for me personally. Fine for sitting back with a controller but I found it too big for mouse and keyboard games, I'm much happier with my 27" 1440p OLED monitor.
That my man right here. I don’t even want 32’ since I am also a competitive player in Apex and sh*t, so 27’ is perfect for my needs both in mp games and single player.
@@gordonfreeman9733 I've got a 27, 32 and 42 sitting side by side. 27 is too small, 32 is perfectly fine and is quickly becoming the industry standard. 42 form 32 isn't that much bigger. Its a few inches taller and wider, its really not that much bigger.
got a 42 inch sony a90k for most gaming and a 240hz mointor for CS and just general web browsing, plus it turns on with my PC which is a huge plus.
Have the C2 wish it could do 4K 120Hz on Macs tho