My Problem With Many Vegans
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Here is why I have a problem with many vegans. This is my rant.
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I’ve been vegan almost 12 years and this channel not only helped me go vegan but has been a resource I’ve shared countless times over the years to help other people. I absolutely empathize with getting frustrated by people who are gate keepers or ridiculously perfectionistic. Thank you for all the work you’ve done over the years!
You must feel like absolute shit. 12 years ? Yikes
U should go carnivore. Ur health will skyrocket
i have been Vegan for over 40 years i have cancre most likely from the plants i have been consuming
Well said, Chris! I completely agree with every word you spoke, and I feel the same way. Vegan for almost 10 years and I absolutely made the decision for the animals. I'm 67 and it was a smooth and easy transition. Using age as an excuse not to go vegan is ridiculous, it's a lie and a justification. Either you care about animals, or you pretend you care about them. 💚🐟🦃🦞🐣🦘🐘🐈🐎🐃🐐🐄💚
Great video, we are on a journey.
I went vegan literally overnight due to ETHICAL reasons. I CANNOT relate to any human who does NOT go vegan once they know where their "food" comes from. I have been vegan for over 10+ yrs. I know people who have seen documentaries "Earthlings" etc... yet refuse to stop the animal cruelty. I think such people are PSYCHOPATHS. Plain a simple.
Similar here, vegan 9 years and I'll be 67 in December. Knew I shouldn't eat meat my whole life but was raised in the restaurant business and was not mentally strong enough to resist until then. So glad I am still here in time to go vegan!
Yah, my mother in law is close to your age and became vegetarian after joining a religious group called Dao. She started preaching kindness towards animals, so I tried to help her make the connection with eggs, dairy, leather, etc, but she's all about TALKING about her enlightenment and following the rules they give her. To kill animals for cakes or little bits of fried bird egg in rice doesn't sound very enlightened or kind to me. Some people just want to have the image of compassion without changing their habits to reflect it. Besides, the religion didn't teach her not to harm others. Virtually every culture around the world teaches this to their children, just don't connect the dots with their diet.
Don't let hateful people get to you Chris. You've done so much for us and the community. So many of us, myself included, are very grateful. ❤
You preach the truth! 100% agree. The people that criticize you for eating at Taco Bell can't be helped. These keyboard warriors are unwelcome in most communities, so it's not just a vegan issue unfortunately. Thanks for the video.
Even from a health perspective, it isn't even the worst thing in the world. But everyone gets to make their own choices in regards to the habits they curate. I don't like seeing my husband turn to the amount of processed vegan foods that he does, but that's because I love him and want him in good health (and want my kids to rely on whole foods primarily). But the gate keeping in this regard can be too much, agreed.
You are absolutely right Chris.
You are a stand up guy. If anyone has a problem, they’re most likely trolling. I can’t imagine anyone having any problems with what you’re doing here and on this channel, you’ve done a lot of good for this community. Don’t feed the trolls, they don’t deserve your energy.
Bravo, Chris. I went vegan 32 years ago, before anyone even knew the word. We've come a long way, but we still have a long way to go. God bless. XOXOXO
32 years, that’s awesome. I have been vegan for over 16 years.
How did you realize at the time?
@@ambers. Hi friend! I’ve been vegan for around 34 years, and what clinched it for me was receiving a peta packet full of graphic images and details. I began shaking and crying and went vegan instantly and became an activist. ❤️✌️
I can assure you veganism was a known movement back in the 1970’s and possibly much further back than that.😂
Unfortunately, animals will die whether you're vegan or not. 😢
you're a straight shooter, Not duplicitious. Not manipulative. You provide entertainment at times, information at times. You're Pro-Planet and that's a good thing. I've watched you on and off for many years. You're definitely a Good Guy. Glad to share this planet with you 😊
THANK YOU! They make me so sick sometimes. This morning someone was saying the TB fries weren’t vegan and listed the ingredients. I was about to school them with articles including dates from the TB website and other vegan websites, and I guess they realized they were wrong and deleted the false comment. You know why people want to use plant based? They don’t want to be associated with vegans. I get it now. Every time you post a haul, “Oh it’s processed.” “Oh the salt.” Just complaining! I’ve had it up to here with these people!!!!
I've had that experience with posting grocery hauls on Vegan Ohio facebook. All the health nuts kept popping up with all the shit about processed etc, I had to start putting a disclaimer on my posts clearly stating that it's not about health and that I don't want the health comments. The other thing is.. I posted something there about getting vaccinated once and oooooo boy. Had to block like 8 people.
@@Veganerd_ sorry you had to go through that. People are ridiculous.
👏 Omg yes! I SO CANNOT STAND all of the ignorant comments! People need to justify why they don't want to eat vegan food, so they try and find things wrong with it. My favorites... It's over processed, it's fake, why eat something that mimics meat, just eat vegetables, you won't get enough protein, plants are alive and scream when you cut them, soy will give men estrogen, we are meant to eat meat, our ancestors did it, we are the top of the food chain, that's what farmed animals are raised for, I only buy from local farmers that care for their animals, they are humanely killed, they are killed quickly, they don't have feelings, hunting helps to prevent them from starving or getting overpopulated and they don't go to waste, and possibly the best one there is - stop forcing your lifestyle/beliefs on others!! OH YA? Stop forcing animals to be tortured and killed for your lifestyle/beliefs hypocrites! 😠 I'm sure I forgot others! I wish these m0r0ns weren't allowed to breed! Hopefully they got 💉. If not, they just might. Animals will be vax with an mRNA gene therapy soon and the risks are completely unknown. Last thing didn't go as planned. This should be interesting....
Possessed is one thing but how most vegans buy shit in plastic is beyond me. It's literally no longer vegan if it hurts fish.
They also love to say all life matters but are pro-choice. I don't get it. Im not a perfect vegan. I use honey I purchase from a local bee keeper. I watch the whole process of the production. I use the honey for making medicine.
I've been vegan just over 5 years, I found this channel as I was transitioning and it helped me stay on this path. I find the content you produce to be fun, friendly, helpful, and cruelty free.
Hey, I agree with you 100%. Also, just wanted to say, I went vegan back in 2016 and I really appreciate that over the past 7 almost 8 years, I've been able to come back to your channel. There have been SO many "vegan" content creators that inspired me in the beginning only to find out they stopped being vegan. Thanks for all the great content!
Veganism is about doing the least amount of harm possible. Period. Stay strong brother.
I don't disagree, but... Too general? "We either leave animals alone or we help animals." This seems a little more specific, but not too specific. Sorry, I just cannot help myself. I thought that could be a good definition.
@@feefawfern8240What I mean by that is we either help the ones we can due to circumstance or we leave them be in their natural environment without interfering and causing suffering.
@@TheVeganZombie I thought that was implied. I just thought something short and sweet sounded nice. I was trying to advocate for a meaning/definition a little more complex, than tricoloredtiger's, but not too complex. I thought "we either leave animals alone or we help animals" was a good line. I didn't come up with it though, so I don't need to advocated for a short and sweet definition of veganism. "doing the least amount of harm possible" sounds more like pacifism or Jainism, to me. I was trying to be agreeable and improve upon.
No. With that logic killing and eating a mouse would be vegan and eating a carrot that was transported by a truck that hit 2 mice would not be vegan.
Veganism is an animal rights movement and it should be about the animals as valuable beings in and of themselves, not just a net amount of harm/good.
I actually do less harm eating a hypercarnivore diet. Locally sourced meat and fruit. I cut out most veggies, all grains, all legumes, and all imported fruit. Basically i am vegan
Your point about pedantic vegans causing others to not attach themselves to the vegan label is true. I am longtime vegan who works in a somewhat conservative field (trying to change it), and I have told my coworkers before that I “don’t eat animal products for ethical reasons,” and they are tolerant and even curious about that. I’ve also told them that I’m “vegan,” and, more often than not, they completely shut down. We have to be better vegans to help better the label for others. Keep fighting the good fight.
Really, only engaging in the topic with people who want to engage is the best thing imo. I want to share the truth with the whole world, but if they are closed off then it will only push them away anyways. Better to live it and make small, clarifying points in conversation if necessary than to push people away.
Vegan for the animals. 💚 Thanks, Chris.
Thank you for this rant. We all have our own journeys and our own challenges.
I think so many people are choosing to be called "plant based" rather than vegan because of the stigma of vegans being so harsh about everything. I totally agree with you Chris.
I agree 💯 thank you for making this video it needed to be said. Its exactly that attitude that made me not even want to tell people i was vegan for the first few years, went vegan in 2003 so 20 years strong now and 100% dont give a F what anyone thinks or says anymore. We love you keep doing what you're doing! ❤️
Been plant based since 1969, when I was 14.
Have learned it is easier not to announce this. Am tired of people who will want to play 'gotcha', you know what I mean, someone who thinks they will catch me being a hypocrite, in their eyes. Am tired of people who feel they have to justify their life choices to me.
I made my decision for me, it was a way I wanted to live my life.
Have never told anyone they have to be like me, never pretended to be perfect.
That's the point, life is a journey we all live in our own way. I don't answer to anyone but my conscience.
My advice to people is to do your best everyday. If you stumble, dust yourself off and start again.
I wish I could give you 2 thumbs up 👍 👍 for todays video.
I have been watching your channel since before you where in front of the camera, and you are one of maybe 5 channels I watch. I rarely ever comment, but had to today. One of the reason I like your channel is that you are not judging others and speak from the heart. And I'm not even vegan, but have greatly reduced my consumption of animal products and look for more plantbased options.
And you made a great argument for the haters to go shopping at grocery stores.
Please keep it up and don't change.
I love your channel. I've been vegan for 12 years. I cant talk to other people anymore about being vegan. People are very judgy. Im very happy on what I am doing for myself and the animals.
Love the disclaimer. You're awesome, dude. I wish I was as open minded about the animal industry as you were at that age.
I 100% agree with you. I don't care if you like that I agree. I just feel the same way. Lol
Keep doing you, Chris, because it's spreading the awesome. ❤
took the words out of my mouth. i’ve felt this way for so long and it’s so mentally taxing to be in the perfectionist mindset. it makes you resent every non-vegan around you for what really boils down to social conditioning which is NOT EASY TO BREAK OUT OF, REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU ARE. thanks for shedding some light on it 🫶 not many vegans wanna admit what’s wrong with the community but it desperately needs addressing if we wanna save as many animals as we can.
The perfectionist mindset was a hinderance, in my second and third year. I think talking to others where they are at is important, and this can include yourself.
Appreciate you and your message, Chris. You’re one of the only vegan channels I still watch after all these years (pretty much just you and Tim Van Orden of running raw).
My immediate family isn’t any closer to being vegan after 11 years of myself being vegan- we all do the best we can and all we can really do is focus on our own journey anyway.
Take care ❤️
I saw that comment on your TB video & I don't understand why some people feel ur not vegan for try a vegan product at a fast food place this is how we make change in the world. It's great to eat a healthy vegan diet but we all like to have treats & places to stop at on road trip. Also this makes non-vegans curious & try new things. Sometimes we just got to rant! You've been vegan before it was cool. 💯
💯 I completely agree and fully support you and your channel. I'm 6 years in, best decision I've ever made. Wish I had done it sooner. You have helped me along the way. Many thanks. 🙌God bless all the animals, even the human ones.
There are more of us like you than you realize. We can't control what others think/do/say; we can only be ourselves and live our lives to our own standards.
We appreciate that you are here for us and we are here for you 💚
I definitely enjoy your videos and content! People will always have something to say (as if they are walking a perfect path🙄). As far as these same people judging your parents for not being vegan, Wow!!!! I’m the only vegan in my family. You are doing the right thing and leading by example. Do not let these people destroy your inner peace. Looking forward to the next video 🎬
Well said. Anyone who gets “preachy”, regardless of the subject, turns more people off than they help educate. It was because of people with a mindset similar to that of yours that I became Vegan 15 years ago.
I don't like preachers, I try not to be preachy, and I tend to agree, but... Preachers seem to be able to attract a crowd. I am talking about religious preachers, btw (75% of Americans reported that they attended a religious service at least once a year).
I always give a grain of salt to people calling vegans preachy. I hear these out tho cuz criticisms are meant to be heard and learned from. Or at least ought to be anyways.
Once in HHV live the topic of meditation came up and long story short this person said I shouldn’t take my meds because my pills aren’t vegan👀
Sorry the Taco Bell fries caused you stress. I imagine that’s what caused this.
Your family being vegan is awesome. Your cookbook is literally on my coffee table right now. You’ve definitely made positive changes in my life. I hope that brings you some amount of comfort. Hope your day improves.
I agree, that had to be said, good job Vegan Zombie. There is a lot of hate from non-vegans towards vegans, but also there are a lot of people who are vegan, who hate on other vegans.
Example: recently, I felt like I needed some community and support in my vegan journey (feelings of isolation from the population of meat eaters), I tried interacting with the Vegan Gaze channel, and I was really struggling with their and their comrade's attitudes of hate, maliciousness, and negativity. I am trying to help, by acknowledging what is going on. I offered to help/converse with the Vegan Gaze and the offer was accepted, and then I was stood up. That said, I try to be accepting of all tactics, but even more so, I agree with what the Vegan Zombie said today. People are where they are at, people are individuals, turning people off turns people off. Just don't turn people off to veganism. It isn't that hard to get. Now, I am on my own journey trying to be cool and relaxed.
Another example relating to this video: years ago, when I was starting to "really" go vegan and was looking for support and community, there were two vegan groups in my area and they hated each other, but why? I never found out I went and did my own thing and stayed vegan.
I found Vegan Gaze's channel pretty bitchy too tbh. Not for me. What other channels do you follow? Could maybe throw you some suggestions? x
Anyone who is trying to be on the vegan journey should be supported and not condemned. I don't care if you're eating impossible burgers every day. It's not that healthy, but that's your choice and it's working to help the animals and our planet. My brother still eats fish, but I got him to stop using all other animal products. It'd be great if he was totally vegan, but just not eating beef or dairy was enough for me. Be kind. Show compassion. I've had people tell me too that I'm not doing veganism right because once or twice a week I have some processed jackfruit nuggets, or some other processed foods. Who cares? It's vegan and that's what matters. The whole food plant based diet would be ideal, but not everyone has the kind of time to spend 4 hours in the kitchen every day.
Don't let those people get to you, Chris. I rarely comment on your videos, but I watch the majority of what you post. I love the vegan stuff at certain stores videos and any type of video sharing new vegan products. That's why I subbed. Keep doing you, because most people love it. Peace brother.
Hi friend! Criticism for eating processed jackfruit is ridiculous. 🙄 I’m only responding to the false notion that eating a strict WFPB diet requires 4 hours a day in the kitchen. I’m a perfect example as to how untrue that is. My meal prep is about 5 minutes. Anything more than that is not for me. Just wanted to add that! 😊✌️
And another thing 😂. I notice it’s always the ones with a private account, or has no content on their platforms. If you know so much, or if you can do better, then where’s your contribution sis? Show us how to do it then bro! They always sit back and judge. Chris is one of the first, if not the first vegan RUclipsrs on here. Let’s show some gratitude for this man.
A lot of people are incapable of critical thinking and are narrow minded. It’s frustrating, but there’s nothing we can really do about such people. Like Einstein said: two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not so sure about the universe. Great video, Chris. Keep up the good work.
LOL.
I am pretty stupid, but I am trying to get better
So true!! LoL!
Back in our day… Alto Cinco was the OG with the Super Vegan Burrito…. Now we can go a ton of places, and these places finally acknowledge our existance. That’s a huge step for vegans and mankind.
Sucks that you felt the need to make this video, but it sounds like it might have been needed. You've really done a great job with your channel & outreach. I thank you greatly, Chris. Keep doing you & helping the animals -- and helping many people while youre at it :) 💪🏼💙
Totally agree! All vegans need to understand these concepts.
Thank you, I really value your approach and think you have a powerful message. I think the infighting are groups/individuals who value “their special thing” rather than the broader Vegan message and definition. Please keep pitching the biggest welcoming tent that can be filled with vegans of all stripes, methods and approaches. I do value the, less than ideal,“incremental change” that is happening with individuals & industry. Sure if I could wave a magic wand and create a vegan world I would, but that’s not a power I have. This is a human dynamic and my experience is building and maintaining relationships is the best method to influence and change. Thank you again for your content, message and the positive changes you influence in our community.
Much❤ Chris. We’re all trying for peace starting with our plate ! You are a source of info Thank you. I’ve been vegan for 24 years & still learning & you have taught me so much. For the animals for ☮️.
I was vegetarian since 1969 and vegan since 1994. You just covered my biggest issues as well! THANK YOU! When militant vegans do what you say the only ones that suffer are the animals.
I've been vegan for 9 years and have been a fan of your channel for almost that long. When I first went vegan, I thought if I just told everyone what was really going on, everyone else would go vegan as well (you can imagine how that went). I felt heartbroken and desperate and I became an angry vegan for awhile. Then, I realized that this is not what I wanted to put out into the world. I went vegan out of love and compassion for animals and how I was acting was not loving or compassionate. It was definitely turning people off because who wants to become angry and bitter like I was? I don't have all the answers, but people are more open minded if you are nonjudgmental and show them how accessible being vegan can be.
So many vegans turn people off from veganism by their holier than thou, perfectionist attitude, which in turn harms the animals even more, as less people may go vegan bc of this. I couldn’t agree more with what you’ve said, thank you for the rant, your logical and critical thinking is a skill many lack. I support and stand by you 💯 and maybe this might wake some people up to toxic and harmful behaviors/attitudes. Veganism is about the animals, not who’s the “better vegan”.
Love your channel, been a subscriber for a long time. 14 years vegan here. Keep up the good work, totally agree with everything you are saying. Stay positive. All the best.
Be you cause there is only 1 you.
The indescribable suffering that animals go thru and what consuming sentient beings does to our planet is alarming to me. I’m in my late 60’s I didn’t start out my vegan journey with that mindset it purely for health reasons but as learned and grew from others I realized that this movement is much much bigger than anyone of us. We only have this one chance to get this right. Our grandkids are counting on us. Thanks for all you do 😊☮️❤️
Love your channel❤thank you for this video too. Appreciate it.
We so appreciate you 🙏. Thank you for everything you do! Been watching your awesome videos for years. As a physician, I too have my issues with bacteria in food service establishments. Especially when it comes to hand washing! I get it. If these people took one microbiology class, they would understand too. No, one needs to be judging you. You do an awesome service to humanity and to the animals! Your message is so important!! You have given me and so so many others great advice. Thank you for this message. You are so caring that is why this is so hard!!! 😊
you have always been yourself,and honest and do you
the way you are, straight forward is the best.
do not care what other critics/ haters have to say.
keep em going
there,s not such a thing like you are not vegan enough.
we all make mistakes,and making your,e own food is the best.
i understand that you,ll show people that the are vegan foods in non-vegan restaurants.
thank you for all you do 🙂🏵️🌸🌷
Exactly. Some vegans try to make it some competition or something, which doesn't help anything. Though you have to think some people with that frame of mind could be newer to the movement. So their passion is high and not as understanding or seeing the bigger picture. It's all about learning and growing. ❤❤
I have a suspicion about what prompted this. [sigh] Thanks for posting this, Chris!
Thanks for the rant - we need to air our feelings. I find you very grounded. Stay strong my friend. Love your vids. Dont let them get you down!
I’ve left so many Facebook and twitter groups due to judgemental mean militant comments . Mean a holes ! I love animals and I am vegan because of that ! Thank you for all you do !
I hear ya brother!
Your channel was the first vegan channel I watched when I started using RUclips for research and support.
Retired vegan butcher/street chef here since 2012. I was the first vegan food truck in Taiwan (that nobody cares about) and the worst people I had to deal with were other vegans. I was the only one in the 'front lines' at festivals and night markets vending against nothing but meat vendors and I always sold out and beat everyone in sales.
Really appreciate this video. Creators should always be able to express things that are bothering them, just like anyone else. As frustrated as you sounded, all of it went back to being compassionate, and I think that shows what a good person you are. I’m not vegan because of some current issues, but I make plant based choices when I can and I know any move in the right direction is a good one. I do hope to be able to remove animal products fully from my diet one day, but hearing your no judgement stance helps me know there are people who support those with good intentions that aren’t at the same place as them yet.
Thank You for speaking up. Social media becoming a battle ground to attack others that are different then you. Each person is on a different part of the spectrum as a vegan or going vegan or religious beliefs and political. I brought up the other few issues because its same concept. People aren’t happy if they argue with you or belittle you behind a device or concept.
I agree we should have more vegan grocery stores and restaurants and other places.
This community needs to stay uplifting and positive and supportive as our current state of the world is becoming darker and negative.
Wow... this was phenomenal, Chris. I actually caught myself holding my breath a few times. I can't believe people with the same ideals and goals would turn and judge or say awful things to each other, let alone you, who has such a positive attitude and outlook and only wants to help the animals by teaching and inspiring people to want to help the animals and live a healthier life. That's so awful to see you so upset I can't imagine anyone saying anything bad about you or your drive to help people and animals. You have inspired me in so many ways and I'm sure there are so many others here that feel the same way.
Wow.
Keep venting as needed! We are always happy to listen and support you...
Stay strong and thanks for all you do ❤
You're the best Chris. I went vegetarian about 15 years ago, I received so much crap from co-workers and my boss. They were relentness. Always wanting to know what I was eating. We had a lunch outing and my boss was looking at the menu and in a sarcastic way was pointing out the few items I could order. It took awhile for them all to leave me alone.
Great video/message, Chris! 👏👏 💚
I totally share your frustration, the in-fighting gets exhausting and only serves to make us look unwelcoming to others. I was connected with someone on FB who commented on my Taco Bell plant based cheese post, as well as the posts of several others, saying it was like purchasing an apple at a slaughterhouse. The time she spent going around stirring up shit was just sad. I hope this video will reach those who really need to hear it and that they'll take it into consideration. Thank you for your videos, I really appreciate them!
those people really slay me like are you really out here homesteading growing your own food and making your own clothes and canning and building root cellars......as a disabled person I find this magical thinking incredibly ableist none of us own the means of production and for me its about harm reduction its that simple these people are ego driven an exhausting and its about reducing hard and changing your corner of the world for positive which is what chris is doing and he never claimed to be perfect these self righteous perfect vegans are usually miserable too
Bravo!
I feel grateful for all forms of speaking up for the victims. Nonviolent communication can be helpful as it's a very sensitive and important topic.
I found your channel when I first went vegan, and it helped me so much. As an almost 10 year vegan I completely agree with you. I'm 76, and every day I do my utmost to make choices that are for the animals. I read labels and I purchase products that are animal free. My family is not vegan and none of my friends are vegan, but I never give them a hard time about it. After all, I went 67 years being non-vegan! I make vegan food and give it to people at the holidays, like cookies at Christmas. My friends and family love the food I make, and ask me if I'm making it again at each holiday (I consider this a win). When I go to their homes, they always make something that I can eat, and I always take along food, just in case. And I should add here, that they always want to try the food that I take. When we go out to eat, we always go to places where I can get something vegan (I call ahead or go on line to make sure), or we go to vegan restaurants. I don't lecture them, and they don't harass me because I'm vegan. I really hate when vegans make a big deal about non-vegans. I figure live and let live. Do the best you can and don't try to force your lifestyle on others. Whatever you do, Chris, don't let the "police" get to you. Your product reviews help us make choices, and your videos are fun and informative.
Extremism in any situation isn't always helpful. We have a long way to go to get people to except the idea of going vegan and its easier to share a message in a kind, excepting and loving way rather than a strict, black and white way. Its a turn off to most people thinking of going vegan when it feels extreme. A gentle approach is best.
I completely agree with your message here....
Thanks Chris 💚🌎💚
Hello, my friend.
I find myself amidst those "unfavorable" Vegans.
I recognize the behavior you're describing in me, but I have two reasons for it.
Firstly, I believed that by acting this way, it might gently nudge non-Vegans into thinking about the matter.
Secondly, it's a way to shield myself from potentially compromising my Veganism due to the overwhelming prevalence of non-Vegan options on my touristy island of Mykonos, Greece, where most restaurants and fast-food establishments don't cater to Vegans.
I want to clarify that this isn't an attack; it's a form of self-defense.
I've been a Vegan for eight years now, and turning Vegan has been the best decision I've ever made.
The positive changes in my life after all these years of Veganism have been significant.
I firmly believe that Vegan philosophy and lifestyle are the only paths toward a happier planet and truly compassionate human beings.
I acknowledge my shortcomings and am actively working on improving myself.
It's important to note that my behavior isn't overly extreme, but rather a response to the challenge of engaging with non-Vegans who can be quite unresponsive to the suffering of animals used for food.
They often exhibit a certain indifference, considering such suffering as normal or acceptable.
Thank you!
💻P.S. ChatGPT helped me with my English that is unfortunately not my main language!
Thanks for saying what we've all been thinking. Also, does this rant have to do with your Taco Bell video?
If you haven't already ,check out the comments section on that video.😮 People were confirming their stupidity for sure
I agree with this! Thank you for posting this message. I love your channel Chris and appreciate your content! I am a vegan who lives with non-vegans. Going vegan is a personal process that is different for everyone and takes time. Everybody has different situations and needs. The best way to inspire change is to meet people where they are at. That is my mission. Your videos have been very helpful on my journey. Keep doing what you do! 💖
Thanks Chris! I fully agree with you. You've been a real inspiration to me on my vegan journey. I used to be somewhat preachy and judgemental about veganism, but I found it really counter productive. I think more is achieved by just setting a possible example!
Heya Chris, I come by every few months to catch up on whats going on...something really got under your skin eh. Well, from all the years that you have been on my radar, I have never once questioned your commitment to the vegan message, and that your passion is anchored in animal activism. Aside from Freelee & Marcus, you were one of the first channels I found, and was stoked about the book and such. I wish I could assure that quandary that your loyality and commitment to veganism is unwavering... we do see it. Thank you for all of your time and labour that you put into this channel also. You keep doing your thing, and I will keep coming back. ✌️💌
Well said Chris!👍 So sorry that people were attacking you and questioning your character in the comments of the last video. Those of us who watch you on a regular basis know none of that crap is true. Keep doing what you do for vegans and veganism we all appreciate it !🌱💚😊
So much useful information here, well said Chris. Nothing is Perfect. Let's all do the best we can. Yes, think before speaking. Everyone is on their own journey, with everything in life, on their own time. Let's help each other when others want help / support with kindness. I myself always have room for improvement! ❤ Spread love and support. ❤
This video is amazing. You are so authentic and real. Thank you for sharing this message 👏👏👏
True! Of course we won't be able to stop the cross-contamination in restaurants that serve both animal and plant-based foods, so I understand not wanting to eat from those places.
I also think it is extremely important to comsume vegan option offered at these places in order to create a demand and increase vegan products.
I wonder if some vegans who hate it havent thought about it that way. It's not an easy decision for some, but I want more options and completely boycotting them because of cross contamination will take us back to not making changes.
Thank you for posting this, man.
Honestly, I feel like this really needed to be said and I'm glad you were the one to say it.
The one distinction I do try to make and emphasize with people without going into an argument over the definition (simply because it is what it is), is that veganism is a lifestyle which seeks to exclude animal harm and exploitation as far as possible or able to be practiced. Whenever people try to confuse it with health or environmental concerns and they use the word 'vegan', I do try and clarify that because to me it's important that people understand the word for what it is.
It's about the animals. That's it.
Thank you for being you, man. 💖
THIS!! Well said Chris!!! I am also fed up with most Vegans and how they alienate and shame everyone. I usually refrain from calling myself Vegan these days and go with Plant Based as it doesn’t hold such a negative connotation. Thanks for this video!! We are all doing our best!! The vegan police can beat it!!!💁♀️🌍🩷🩷🩷
I am exactly the same. Plantbased seems to go over better. Its easier to be under the radar except in certain places. My friends will generally out me thinking to be helpful in places 😂
Yes exactly!! Unfortunately the word “Vegan” feels tarnished now.🫠🙏🏽
@@Primalisticthere is stigma, and using it can result in bullying or harrassment. But do you know when helps to destigmatize labels like that? Using it confidently.
You are you own person, but I sympathize the feeling that someone elses faults might reflect on you because you share ideas or an identity.
I appreciate you posting this. It’s kind of made me think twice. Maybe I’m a bit too judgmental? Maybe I’m harsh towards those I love…..the anger takes over for me. It’s hard to be around loved ones knowing they’re choosing violence. But I try to remember I was them once and I understand their point of view.
I was chucked out my activist group for not being vegan enough. Because I failed to successfully get my cat on plant based food. And after a year of trying I decided my cats health was more important than having her eat something she didn’t like. She kept getting ill. But that wasn’t enough for our group organiser. I was told to murder my cat because of this. And if I didn’t, I had to leave A.V. Because I wasn’t technically vegan. The shame I felt for it was heavy. I stopped doing activism because I felt like a hypocrite. But I am vegan. And I support all other vegans. We are all different and our approach’s are different but we should be supporting each other. We are few and far between as it is. I know veganism is growing but the fighting between vegans is rife. I promise to try not shame other vegans. Or carnists from this day onwards. Thanks for this post dude. 🌱
Those people will not still be vegans in about 10 years. They don't understand the fundamental requirement of not harming animals. Sorry you went through this with people you thought were allies.
I love your videos I just miss your mini zombie videos you had and your cooking with your friend and your pups are so cute I miss seeing them and btw your hair looks great..
I agree with you, and I think it's actually an important aspect of activism to stay on top of what junk foods or commonly eaten foods are vegan. I don't eat it often, but every time a colleague notices me quickly scan an ingredient list, see that it's vegan, and then eat it - it sparks a conversation. People often don't realise how much of what they already eat is vegan, they have this idea that going vegan essentially means abandoning a huge part of their social life and everything they know. Sometimes it'll spark funny conversations - "These 'beef' flavoured crisps are vegan, but these salted one's aren't! How weird is that!". It gets people asking questions about why certain decisions are made about their food, that they wouldn't even think about otherwise.
Having these options available means that I get to model how simple it is. You don't need to leave society and go live off pinecones in a forest shack to do vegan 'right'.
Hi Chris, well said and my wife and I appreciate all your videos and reviews.
We met you at vegan fest in Syracuse with my grandson. No egg Craig was also there. You are spot on about how people need to treat each other. We have been living the vegan lifestyle for the past several years and are always looking for recipes and information about veganism. We try to watch your videos as so as they are posted and really like listening to you. I make a lot of my own vegan meats and other items so I know what you mean about eating at home. Both my wife and I have strayed on occasion with one item here and there. So I would say we are 99% vegan most of the time, lol. Please continue your videos and channel it does help a lot of people.
The only way to support vegan is to support it where ever it exists! Every time we buy a vegan option in a store or restaurant, we are casting a vote for that product to be available.
One thing that really bothers me is a very prominent vegan attacks fully raw Kristina saying she is (fully fake Kristina)…. And if you question her she says (I’m just passionate and you don’t know what she did… do you?).. I agree stuff like this just hurts the cause
I agree with you totally. Do the right thing because it is the right thing. And every little step in the right direction is to be celebrated. Pretending to be perfect to hold other people down is an insecurity and a disservice to the greater good. We are all only human on this journey together... let's lift each other up as much as possible. Peace and Love.
If people want to be a perfectionist, that's fine, but the fact they have to throw other vegans (who are clearly following the definition) under the bus, then they can f right off! I'm sure this video was a lot more cathartic than replying to each individual who might think otherwise. You've always shown a positive look at veganism and if I ever made a channel, I would filter so many words/delete those types of comments, they'd just leave. You've been vegan for a very long time and although I don't comment on your videos, they've all been great! Everything you said in this video is right on point to boot. You saw how some other vegans were presenting themselves and you made your own path. Every path has a purpose, especially when following the definition of veganism, they're just not for all of us. The main reason I stopped following a few people is because of this.
Keep up the great videos, Chris! You have nothing going wrong and doing everything right for you, all within the definition!
I went back and watched your taco bell trip. I now understand your rant. I worked taco bell in the 70s. We cooked Everything on site. We had dedicated fryers. Cross contamination was not allowed. It's not the same today. I'm 66. I don't call myself vegan. I'm not. I'm a Plant Eater. 13 years ago I was told to stop consuming all animal products or I would need a liver transplant. I have. Me being a plant eater does help the animals because I'm one more person not consuming them. Your channel has helped me find alternatives to eating animal. Still no transplant needed. I am the only exclusive plant eater in my family. It's hard. You help me keep going.
Hey you are from Maine? First time seeing your channel. I'm a U Maine Orono graduate. Grew up in Aroostook county. Congratulations for the success of your channel. 🎉 Not a vegan just a quasi vegetarian but thinking about "going all the way". Mostly for environmental reasons.
This was a lot to unpack! I’ve been on this path since 1987 (veg -> vegan) and the infighting is one of the things that surprised me and bothers me the most to this day, sometimes more than the nonsense from non-vegans. And to be honest, it has stopped me from putting myself out there more, just all the negativity. But - what I really want to know is, where is there an all vegan supermarket in NY state?! Or near it, anyway? I’ve been to Follow Your Heart in LA and that place is Mecca 😊🌱💚 EDIT: I know we have Orchard Grocer and Lily’s in NYC, I’m just imagining somewhere bigger...
Awesome points Chris. What I've seen is my own journey though was that when I did judge others for not being vegan or whatever.. It came from a place where "I was equally hard on myself" I think that's why there are "militant" vegans out there. It's why I like to be called plant based. As I continue my journey on this "plant based" path of spirituality and meditation I see the largest thing that's keeping the world in "3d vs 5d" is the inability for us to accept ourselves and also be authentic with ourselves. I feel like growing on this spiritual path is much like peeling back the proverbial onion. As in you go through the same experience again, but experience it differently. As I continue on this spherical Earth rock more and more I contemplate on the the impermanence of life, how I'm only here for a short time.. how we all are. It's as if everything both matters and doesn't as well. I think there's something to be said for the "local" movement as well. around me in Colorado are a lot of local farmers and they produce local eggs. I think that is a good way. The chickens are quite happy... although are in many ways slaves you could say.. still better than factory farms.. so a step in a good direction. I think some of us aren't made to be completely vegan. Even the Dali Llama isn't really even vegetarian. I guess he wanted to be, but was advised by his doctor that he had to eat meat. The longer I've been plant based.. the harder it's been for me to even consider eating something like fish. I don't think we can get away from cruelty though even if all we eat is plants. There is still suffering there. I had a friend that was vegan and then did two Vipassana retreats back to back for 10 days and emerged to go back to eating meat. There's numerous RUclips personalities that started out to be quite "militant" in their vegan promotions, but then switched paths. I think at the end of the day "we're all different"... Yet we are all one too. Everything that we face in life at a particular moment is reflection of the vibration that we are vibrating.. our deep subconscious programs.. I very much align with you in your compassion to anyone seeking to strive for the vegan way of life. I feel an awakening in the world and I'm quite sure that eventually everyone will be plant based/vegan. Our environmental ways seem to point to this. I like to see the transition to that as evolutionary.. for the simple premise that advancement in humanity always points to deeper forms of simplicity. Thank you for your contemplative video. I love your latest lasagna recipe!
With you on this. I've also noticed that the most radical, critical vegans that shout the loudest often aren't vegan 2 years down the line. Seen time and time in the Animal Rights community. I try avoid these aggressive argumentative types.
I love your channel 😊
Thank you for all you do, I agree 100%.
First, I am so sorry you had to make this video. And last, I'm so sorry you had to make this video. For whatever situation that prompted this video, I'm sorry. I love your content and I've shared your channel. And I actually don't follow a lot of vegan content creators because of this reason.
Keep doing you!
Well said!!! After co creating a huge online vegan group/community for several years (VoNY- Vegans of New York) I had to distance myself from that which I help create due to the militant vegans that use animal rights as a muse for their unresolved trauma. The greatest activism is to meet people where they are and be an example of kindness and love for ALL beings.
These very points are why I no longer refer to myself as vegan preferring to use plant based to avoid the drama.
I was a part of a vegan Facebook group and I was deemed not vegan enough because I was tagged in a photo with my brother and our friend at Buffalo Wild Wings. I just ate their side salad which was over priced and was just lettuce and tomatoes and a vinegar dressing. Buffalo Wild Wings have zero vegan options and I wouldn't decide to go to it. But we were in Nashville and the guys wanted to go so I went ate the salad and had a drink, and then brought snack bars to hold me over until we got back to our friend's place. But according to some in the FB group that means I am not vegan. That turned me off from the group and I immediately unfollowed it. At that point I had been vegetarian for 6 years and vegan for 3 so it didn't deter me from being vegan or calling myself vegan, but someone who had just went vegan it could deter them.
Bloody love you Chris! Blessings from the UK! ❤
Please don’t stop making videos. I have been vegan for 7 years. Your channel has been instrumental in my journey! Thank you for all that you do.
Thank you so much for taking the thoughts that were trapped in my mind and expressing them so passionately into reality. I have always enjoyed your videos, but this one really stands out for me. Keep fighting the good fight, my friend.
Yep - possible or practicable. Let's move from fighting against what we don't want, to focusing on what we DO want. Far more effective means of creation.
Thanks for making this video! It makes a lot of sense.
I usually make my own food, sometimes I have vegan convenience foods, especially when you or another vegan influencer shares something cool looking.. when i do eat out, I'll find the vegan/vegetarian options and request that they don't put in the non vegan items. Pizza without cheese can be awesome.
I'll find cool things to bring for potlucks. I made a curry that went well at the crafts guild. My friend made Brand New Vegan's award winning chili to the last meeting, and there was very little left.
The food industry is scary, so I'm trying to grow my own food. I started late, so this year's successes are a giant arugula "bush", same with peppermint and spearmint. 🤣
The way i see it, I need to learn what works on my land. I'll happily share with the local wildlife, and i guess next year I'll figureb out how to protect what i don't want to share.
I'll see what grows well where I live, and I'll see what i can grow that supports the planet and the pollinators.
We may eventually have to grow out own food. IDK if i believe the doomsayers that we're looking at empty grocery store shelves, but it doesn't hurt to be prepared.
Anyway, thanks for this video! I feel that you touched several important points. ❤
You always handle these situations perfectly Chris. You don’t even owe anyone an explanation but I’m glad you posted this for obvious reasons. Now you can actually refer other unhappy “holier than thou” trolls to this very video in future comment sections. 😉
Inspiring message Chris, completely agree!
I’m surprised to hear that you were criticized and your vegan status questioned. The fact that you went vegan 30 years ago (something I should have done too but was too weak and too selfish at the time to do it) gives you more credibility than just about anyone else on the subject.
I recall when the Impossible Whopper came out you were very clear that this item was not meant for vegans but you still thought it was great that it existed and I don’t see how anyone could disagree with it.
I do not agree with fellow vegans “attacking” you, of all people, because you demo a plant based item at a non vegan restaurant. You’ve made your position very clear and I’m assuming these folks are just not as familiar with your history.
My only disagreement is that I do feel that non vegans should be made to feel uncomfortable. Showing great food is fine, but without talking about the ethics there is no reason why a non vegan would choose a delicious vegan apple pie instead of a non vegan one when they are at the store on their own. So I don’t think “pick me vegans” who never want to talk about the evil that non vegans are supporting and instead just like to “inspire” accomplish anything. I don’t think telling someone that they are responsible for terrible horrors pushes anyone away from going vegan. Those that claim “I would go vegan but hearing all those ‘militant’ vegans preach turned me off” are lying. They are just excuse makers who hide behind excuses for their own benefit and will come up with any excuse not to change their destructive lifestyle.
But I for one never viewed you as a pick me vegan. I’m surprised if anyone in the vegan community does. Your vegan “resume” so to speak is unmatched in the “influencer” community.
Glad you will keep being you. I think your original idea for this channel was absolutely brilliant but I am glad you got in front of the camera and shared your vegan history. While I was already vegan when I found your channel, your cooking tips, grocery visits, restaurant visits, family get togethers and stories have been a positive and enjoyable watch.