Hi Topher A. I work with the company, and We want to send you a test unit. I already asked and What my boss asked is if you could make another review of Our Analogue pocket, even a 5 minute video would be valuable to us. We have already had people reference your channel so If you can put together a good Vid, we would love to work together. In return, we will send you a free test unit
@@autobotstarscream765was just going to comment this myself. If this plays everything an original N64 can, then it's able to run an everdrive. Also, someone will suss out how to get SD cards or other media, running on this, even if it includes adding a secondary SD card slot or other media input connector. Don't ever discount a dedicated console modders/hackers, be they individuals or groups, ability to hack and mod the "unhackable and unmodable" because they will see that as a challenge and not a fact. And usually, a challenge that they beat or bypass very quickly.
@@Lallander this is such a dumb statement on analogue’s part because they know that all games in a cart are a rom by their very nature. You are running a copy written rom every time u boot a n64 game you are just doing it in the way Nintendo intended, on their hardware. So then you are back to the grey area again that technically this is a machine pretending to be their hardware. Legally, it is your cart you can play it however u want, but it feels weird for analogue to try and take a moral high ground about it.
Even though they say it doesn't play rom files, theoretically speaking, it should play anything that a traditional N64 can play. If someone were to buy one of those rom cartridges from AliExpress that contains full library of N64 games, it should work just fine in the Analogue 3D given that it works on a regular N64. The only way this wouldn't be possible is if they really went out of their way to lock it out of compatibility. Don't know why they'd ever shoot themselves in the foot that way though, unless they simply enjoy pissing people off.
They made that claim before with the Super NT, Mega SG and Duo. Rom Cartridges work just fine for all of their products. In addition to that there is a good chance that you will be able to even put Roms on the SD Card of the 3D to load up Rom files directly. At some point in time every Analogue Console got a special firmware that made that possible. You still might want to use a summer cart 64 or Everdrive X 7 because they can play 64 DD Roms without the DD. Just don't buy that cheap knockoffs from Ali.
It doesn't play rom files by design primarily to avoid legal issues with Nintendo. A cartridge filled with roms that also plays on a original N64 is technically speaking still a cartridge.
The N64's Rambus memory being shared between GPU and CPU was the N64's primary issue with framerate. Rambus in itself was terrible but hopefully they fixed the whole gpu and cpu share problem.
I know the page said it will not run ROM games from the console, but I assure you the Everdrive cartridges will work, also I'm 100% sure the N64 switch online controllers will work since this analogue console has the Bluetooth inside, you should read the FAQ question from the analogue 3D as well, their very informative.
There's really no way around that if it's going to read authentic N64 carts. And, what people use that for is outside of their control or concern anyways.
The Analogue Duo, Pocket and even their older Analogue NT have issues with Everdrives, so it's not guaranteed. Hopefully this one won't have issues though.
Look I have a analogue pocket that I love and use all the time but we need to stop pretending that their is no emulation. It is hardware based emulation but it is still emulation. They are not reproducing original chips, they are programming an adaptive chip to act like one and you are still using cores to communicate and regulate that chip. There is a bunch of benefits to this approach but there are also a lot of downside to this approach compared to software emulation. But we need to call a spade a spade and stop pretending like fpga is not emulation.
It's really nice to see people finally starting to catch on and push back on this. A lot of us have been saying this for a while, and the education just hadn't caught up. People are finally understanding FPGA's aren't magic, they still have their issues and they are still a form of emulation, but with hardware. They are also only as good as the programming of the core. It's nice to see so many people in the comments spreading the word, so we can discuss the tech honestly and stop falling for disingenuous Analogue Marketing.
@@xMaGuSx888Then go ahead and buy the other products on the market. Nothing is stopping you from doing so. We are excited about the release, emulation or not. Go ahead and buy what the competitors are making.
The hardware emulation is so good the hardware doesn't even know it's being emulated. That's the key takeaway because software emulation has a lot of problems. People just don't care about the problems because they only intend on playing like one game from their childhood and that's it.
@@craigshaffer4023 no one said don't buy one over the other in this post. it is about analogue spreading misinformation to sell people on a product that "might" have good support or might not. the tech is only as good as the software backing it up. FPGA does not magically make a system good or bad. And as a past customer who does over all enjoy my product it is still miles away from perfect or authentic feeling. It took analogue a really really long time after release of the analogue pocket to even get the from cart experience down pat, let alone the open fpga side. they try to sell their system as new from box nintendo products when they are not. they are using open source cores and hardware from the mister project to build emulators just like anbernic or Aya neo, just with a different approach. Yes, when the cores are made right there is a very authentic feel to games on their hardware, but it is not always 100% depending on where the core project is, and a lot of times you can actually get better performance from software emulation for simple fact of their being a bigger pool of devs and lower barrier to entry. you can also build a lot more functions into software emulation than u can FPGA like save slates, speed hacks, frame skips, net play, tool support for speed runs, graphics packs, multiplayer hack over ahok networks, and many others. One is not better than the other, but other can be better than the other in certain situations and for certain people.
I’m excited to see what they do after this! GameCube and Wii were built on the same archetype, the DS and 3DS both share similar archetypes as well. I hope that they pursue the Diaz family next, and then it will be interesting to see how the disc based consoleswould work.
FPGA's stop at 5th gen. There is no reason to use them right now or any time soon over emulation because of the architecture of 6th gen and above. We still can't even FPGA the dreamcast yet.
I hate disc games. I wish we could go back to carts. The discs won’t last 40 years like carts did. I’m still playing games from the 80’s. It’s amazing.
For anyone wanting the authentic controller shape but not wanting to pay for OEM controller in good condition, I highly recommend the Hyperkin Captain- They're reasonably affordable and are basically 1:1 in form factor aside from a greatly improved thumbstick (which is good. Trust me on this you don't want the OEM thumbstick if you like your thumbs). Also very durable, I have a few I bought for a halloween party about three years ago and they're still as good as they were out of the box. Underrated modern option imho.
Now we only need a Nintendo64 Cartridge with all the NES games in it and all SNES games built inside the cartridge so we can play it on this console in 4K..
Or you know, just buy a MiSTer for 99 bucks, perfect N64 (better than perfect as it has an auto 60 FPS patcher mode in the Turbo N64 core, the best way to play N64 games with bare-metal hardware) also with the terrible AA filter removed in native 480p, NES, SNES, SMD, SMS, GBA, Amiga, DOS, macOS, hundreds of 1:1 parity arcade cores, all with accurate audio, video timings and pixel perfect RGB.
An Everdrive cartridge, they work on an original N64 for playing backup roms of your legally owned games from an SD/tf card. (or illegal backups if that's your thing) so I don't see why they won't work on this machine too. I suppose we will just have to wait until someone tests it out.
@@HollowRick You realize the Analogue N64 is just using integer scaling, right? Just like the MiSTer can do via .ini up to 4K, or it may well be line multiplying, which is better and the MiSTer is limited to 576p via that scaling method, but either way the Analogue isn't rendering N64 internally @ 4K.
I really hope video demos of this thing become available. Even with the solid quality reputation they've built, it's hard waiting to see what all the money went to until next year
I would be most excited to see ps2, but all the people i've seen in the fpga community talking about it say that ps2 is several years away at best. Here's hoping they're wrong.. Apparently ps1 has a solid fpga core made for it already, with MiSTer footage of them up on youtube.
my question is how do we port over the games we have on our current expansion pack on the onto the analogue system because i have certain games in not in the mood to start all over again
I'm curious as to the performance this will bring. Will we get no slowdown on 3-4 player GoldenEye? I seem to remember that it's locked at 15 frames for 3 to 4 player mode, but often times it suffered slow down on original hardware. I'm all for 4K, but 4K at 10 frames is still 10 frames
We are at a point where CRT filters / techniques can actually come with our modern displays. All OLED and QLED run of software now. Now, one can tell me that TV manufacturers can't add a retro mode apart from the game mode we already have.
I want a N64 official mini come on Nintendo it's over due. Maybe All interested need to sign a petition for Nintendo to see a huge audience wanting it.
Interesting how prices don't change much. When the N64 was first released it was set to be sold at $250, but Nintendo lowered this price to $199 due to competitive markets with Sony and Sega who also dropped the price to make more competition.
I hope we can transfer old saves from a controller pack to the console! Or from a cartridge to the console! Frustrating when the only way to play a classic is to start the game over. I want all my progress and levels opened up!
Still watching, but this hype for N64’s multiplayer heritage. Any possibility with built in WiFi, it’s custom 3DOS that it may facilitate online multiplayer using our OG carts? Basically I’ll be able to slap my f zero cart in and play others online not just couch co-op?
If Nintendo was smart they would build the most native emulator they possible could . Them some hardware that you could plug every Nintendo cartridge into and rip your own library ! built in ai upscaling and upgrades to make the games look amazing . Yeah alot of piracy but you are keeping them in the ecosystem of buying physical copies and playing old games. You publish with Nintendo the game will live forever !
I'm more annoyed that this means I need to fix my n64 controllers. :( The 8BitDo controllers don't support expansion ports on them like the N64 ones do. So Pokemon Stadium is out unless I use my original N64 controllers. Really looking forward to seeing how it makes compares to my actual N64... maybe it can go back to holding doors open for me!
Retrotink 4k does a pretty good job at mimicking a CRT on an Oled. But it's very expensive, and not for everyone. I would like my N64 to look nice and crisp. Even in a CRT, the n64 looks like hot earwax smeared on the TV screen lol. So I hope there's an option to get it nice and crisp, and not just look like a N64 on a CRT. If that's what you're going for, then that's cool. But I want those pixels sharp, not in a dire need for some sort of anti aisling. It seems like there's for someone for everyone in this thing. I highly doubt it'll be 64DD compatible.
I'm guessing for those that wish to play backups of their legally obtained ROM files, they could use an everdrive cartridge, as the console should run an everdrive cartridge much like the original N64 does.
I'm kinda surprised that there is enough of market for a company make these. I can tell you that the number of N64 game carts that I have is zero. The only 'retro' collection I have is few PS3 game I got dirt cheap at a garage sale, and I can't really play them because Ive been so spoiled by having a gaming PC hooked up to a 4ktv. Super Nintendo is my console from childhood, and the goat imo. During the Sony vs 64 days I was a Sony kid, and thought of the 64 as a little kids toy. But thats cool they are making a new hardware based N64. Many great times to be had playing 007, Mario cart, and Mario party with 100% accuracy, and support for modern displays
The only reason this might be profitable is that it comes with upscaling. But N64s aren't that hard to come by or particularly expensive. I bought mine for a little under $120 including tax and shipping.
Unless they hired Mike Chi, I have my doubts about their claims about their CRT simulated scan lines. For the price though, this thing sounds dope. Also dude, you and like 5 other people have the DD lol
I wonder if it will allow fan made ports like the Pokémon N64 cartridges. Like if it allows that, that'll be cool for like say other cartridges that were made after the fact of them becoming scarce might or might not run like they would on original consoles. So until someone tries those reprints on that new Analogue 3D, we'll then know if those can or can't be played, with that clause if it can't play those special copyright files. So for now it's all guessing until people have it and try out it's limitations for real.
That's a matter of opinion, FPGA isn't what most people mean when they talk about emulation. There are actual logic gates programmed into the chips to do most of the stuff, only a small fraction of it is actually being emulated. It's probably more accurate to say that it's replicating an N64. But, you're not going to get the level of accuracy out of emulation right now for an N64 with hardware that we currently have available.
Yeah. Emulation is just a bloated term. Hardware emulation like this offers nearly identical accuracy to actual hardware, whereas software emulators (while really really good) have a ton of hacks to get it playable
Technically, in a strictly literal sense. But for the last quarter century, the word emulation has meant software emulation, and all the problems that come with it. Hardware emulation is a different beast all together and merits a different word. Because when you're asking "is it emulation", what you're asking is, "does it have all the problems that emulators have". And the answer to that question is no.
@@thecianinator I think that replication is probably more appropriate to this, but there's a massive difference because an FPGA system can do more than one thing at the same time, it doesn't have to flip between emulating different systems, it can have different bits of silicon working at the same time. Trying to emulate that much of the hardware is pretty much impossible. It took something like 20 years for computers to become powerful enough to properly emulate the SNES.
@@thecianinator I mean words are words. It IS emulation. It's literally hardware emulation. All people need to do is specify now the type since we have more than 1, it's that simple. Software emulators are what we are accustomed to, but it doesn't mean it should take over the term emulation as a whole. FPGA aren't problem free. In fact a "Core" is only as good as how well it was programmed. And it still isn't a 1:1 experience to an actual system, although very close.
@@Mong00se22 WAY in the future, like 10+ years minimum. There is no reason to do GC or any 6th gen systems with hardware emulation due to how they are built. Software emulators are the much better option and will be for the next decade. You also can still buy a gamecube with an HDMI adapter, and even install an SD card reader, all for under $150.
don't wear a red shirt on a red chair, look like Quasimodo. Awesome video and awesome news though. I reckon I was in the top 100 of Golden Eye back in the day. 6 hours a day for 2 years straight in 4 player, stack, one hit kills pistols
Couldnt get any of my cards to work because they have an overseas card processor. As long as it takes my Everdrive 64 and 8Bitdo controllers i will still probably get it at some point just for the upscale.
If you want one, you may want to rush to preorder lol. After looking at their previous products it appears they sell out extremely quick and take MANY MONTHS to restock.
if you don't want one, don't rush to get one, if you do want one, you're gonna have to rush. If you've seen anything on the Analogue Pocket, you'll understand they have a niche market that loves their products because they are very high quality in their build and they give an almost upgraded original experience, the website is just full of marketing speak, but the people who want their products will pay for them and get in the preorder right away. Unlike a powkitty or a retroid pocket which are very nice in their own right, emulation just will never have the same feel as hardware level. That being said im not part of that market and i'd never buy one of these. They are like record players, people will buy brand new record players just for the upgraded classic feeling experience.
I need to see some actual gameplay to believe it. Analog is good at bringing retro console into the modern era. All the lip service in the world means nothing without proof.
Just so you know, you'll require a 4K OLED TV In order to get as close to the look of a CRT in terms of colour saturation and true blacks with the included CRT shaders
They never said any of that. I'm sure they probably will do funtastic colorways simply because of how many limited editions they did for the Pocket, but they haven't said anything about it for the 3D.
Love my APock, but this ain't it, not audio DSP, no audio PCM up-sampling which would have made this worth it on its own, no analogue output (ironically), no new releases of unreleased prototype games, like a full physical release of Conkers Twelve Tales, cart releases of the 64DD games like Mario Artist, Doshin, the unreleased Pilot Wings sequel (I need more Pilot Wings), GTA64 (unreleased finished game), Hype: Time Quest, Mini Racers (Nintendo games mad by Looking Glass Studios), Turrican 64 (near complete Factor5 game), Pocket Monster (64DD games from Nintendo).
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It's kool to know that there will be a new N64. That console helped to define the gaming world
Hi Topher A. I work with the company, and We want to send you a test unit. I already asked and What my boss asked is if you could make another review of Our Analogue pocket, even a 5 minute video would be valuable to us. We have already had people reference your channel so If you can put together a good Vid, we would love to work together. In return, we will send you a free test unit
There will definitely be a 'jailbreak' firmware that lets you play ROMs off the SD card.
why do you think they installed it on there?
It will probably be awhile before it's out there though. Both the Pocket and Duo jailbreaks came out a few months after the consoles.
thats a given, but will it let you play other cores? it Would be cool to have SNES or even PSX/SATURN in native 4k
@@grimmbilly9263 couple months ain’t that long
@@grimmbilly9263 but yes you are right
"Analogue 3D does not play copyrighted ROM files."
Until the "totally unofficial" patch comes out shortly after launch.
Or, you know, an Everdrive cart doing the emulating.
@@autobotstarscream765was just going to comment this myself. If this plays everything an original N64 can, then it's able to run an everdrive. Also, someone will suss out how to get SD cards or other media, running on this, even if it includes adding a secondary SD card slot or other media input connector.
Don't ever discount a dedicated console modders/hackers, be they individuals or groups, ability to hack and mod the "unhackable and unmodable" because they will see that as a challenge and not a fact. And usually, a challenge that they beat or bypass very quickly.
@@JacknVictor it will absolutely have the cores unlocked eventually just may be a few months
@@Lallander this is such a dumb statement on analogue’s part because they know that all games in a cart are a rom by their very nature. You are running a copy written rom every time u boot a n64 game you are just doing it in the way Nintendo intended, on their hardware. So then you are back to the grey area again that technically this is a machine pretending to be their hardware. Legally, it is your cart you can play it however u want, but it feels weird for analogue to try and take a moral high ground about it.
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Best video I have seen on this product. I can't wait for my preorder to arrive. Fingers crossed is won't be delayed but I think it will be.
Proximity Mines in Facility at 44!! Time to make my kids feel that sense of dread walking into a room!
Rainbow road shortcut here I come!
I'm fairly certain F-Zero is upstairs chilling in my N64, too.
At least when it comes to quality Analogue never disappoints.
Even though they say it doesn't play rom files, theoretically speaking, it should play anything that a traditional N64 can play. If someone were to buy one of those rom cartridges from AliExpress that contains full library of N64 games, it should work just fine in the Analogue 3D given that it works on a regular N64. The only way this wouldn't be possible is if they really went out of their way to lock it out of compatibility. Don't know why they'd ever shoot themselves in the foot that way though, unless they simply enjoy pissing people off.
@@TheSixthSLoT I think they meant to say no emulation like hardware emulation
As in it won’t be emulating like PJ64 (I think that’s what the emulator is called) not actually referring to ROMs more of a “won’t emulate software”
They made that claim before with the Super NT, Mega SG and Duo. Rom Cartridges work just fine for all of their products. In addition to that there is a good chance that you will be able to even put Roms on the SD Card of the 3D to load up Rom files directly. At some point in time every Analogue Console got a special firmware that made that possible.
You still might want to use a summer cart 64 or Everdrive X 7 because they can play 64 DD Roms without the DD. Just don't buy that cheap knockoffs from Ali.
It doesn't play rom files by design primarily to avoid legal issues with Nintendo. A cartridge filled with roms that also plays on a original N64 is technically speaking still a cartridge.
Yeah I'm pretty sure my Everdrive is gonna work just fine on this thing
The N64's Rambus memory being shared between GPU and CPU was the N64's primary issue with framerate. Rambus in itself was terrible but hopefully they fixed the whole gpu and cpu share problem.
agreed. it wasn't all good
I know the page said it will not run ROM games from the console, but I assure you the Everdrive cartridges will work, also I'm 100% sure the N64 switch online controllers will work since this analogue console has the Bluetooth inside, you should read the FAQ question from the analogue 3D as well, their very informative.
There's really no way around that if it's going to read authentic N64 carts. And, what people use that for is outside of their control or concern anyways.
This is going to be awesome.
I’m really looking forward to it
only thing that sucks is unless you have an OG controller you cant use the expansion slot in pokemon stadium and play pokemon on the big screen....
I still have my N64 and controller. I'm so tempted by this
@@dbjase7215 i still got my og gold one and a slightly worn out grey but i know sticks dont last on them... went through quite a few as a kid.
Will it be able to be used with an Everdrive? Which is a cartridge that you can insert a micro sd card in to store all your n64 games on and play them
The Analogue Duo, Pocket and even their older Analogue NT have issues with Everdrives, so it's not guaranteed. Hopefully this one won't have issues though.
@@grimmbilly9263 nah the pocket had a fix for GB X7 come out Nov 2022... Even if the everdrive-64 doesnt work at first it will eventually...
yeah it should, and even if there's bugs at launch they usually patch them to fix it
@butterccm thank you so much I greatly appreciate the info 😀
makes me happy that i still have a 50" crt tv
Holy crap, I bet it weighs a ton! Mitsubishi?
I have a 32” CRT. I love playing my retro games on it.
"Built in Expansion Pak"
lmao, i can't wait for this to release, and some person complains about their copy of Space Station Silicon Valley crashing.
I'd say that it has an option to change it to a jumper pak for any games that have issues, or a patch.
I hope it’s good but the fact they are talking about what it can do and not showing anything makes me skeptical.
Look I have a analogue pocket that I love and use all the time but we need to stop pretending that their is no emulation. It is hardware based emulation but it is still emulation. They are not reproducing original chips, they are programming an adaptive chip to act like one and you are still using cores to communicate and regulate that chip. There is a bunch of benefits to this approach but there are also a lot of downside to this approach compared to software emulation. But we need to call a spade a spade and stop pretending like fpga is not emulation.
It's really nice to see people finally starting to catch on and push back on this. A lot of us have been saying this for a while, and the education just hadn't caught up. People are finally understanding FPGA's aren't magic, they still have their issues and they are still a form of emulation, but with hardware. They are also only as good as the programming of the core. It's nice to see so many people in the comments spreading the word, so we can discuss the tech honestly and stop falling for disingenuous Analogue Marketing.
@@xMaGuSx888Then go ahead and buy the other products on the market. Nothing is stopping you from doing so. We are excited about the release, emulation or not. Go ahead and buy what the competitors are making.
Im happy with emulation on my pc
The hardware emulation is so good the hardware doesn't even know it's being emulated. That's the key takeaway because software emulation has a lot of problems. People just don't care about the problems because they only intend on playing like one game from their childhood and that's it.
@@craigshaffer4023 no one said don't buy one over the other in this post. it is about analogue spreading misinformation to sell people on a product that "might" have good support or might not. the tech is only as good as the software backing it up. FPGA does not magically make a system good or bad. And as a past customer who does over all enjoy my product it is still miles away from perfect or authentic feeling. It took analogue a really really long time after release of the analogue pocket to even get the from cart experience down pat, let alone the open fpga side. they try to sell their system as new from box nintendo products when they are not. they are using open source cores and hardware from the mister project to build emulators just like anbernic or Aya neo, just with a different approach. Yes, when the cores are made right there is a very authentic feel to games on their hardware, but it is not always 100% depending on where the core project is, and a lot of times you can actually get better performance from software emulation for simple fact of their being a bigger pool of devs and lower barrier to entry. you can also build a lot more functions into software emulation than u can FPGA like save slates, speed hacks, frame skips, net play, tool support for speed runs, graphics packs, multiplayer hack over ahok networks, and many others. One is not better than the other, but other can be better than the other in certain situations and for certain people.
I always think you have the coolest room setup 👍
Pre-ordered mine. SNES Analogue is fantastic. I’d have done the NES but mine is RGB modded with a RetroTink.
This damn video better be good. I came over here from Mr. Nightmares channel so
I’m excited to see what they do after this! GameCube and Wii were built on the same archetype, the DS and 3DS both share similar archetypes as well. I hope that they pursue the Diaz family next, and then it will be interesting to see how the disc based consoleswould work.
FPGA's stop at 5th gen. There is no reason to use them right now or any time soon over emulation because of the architecture of 6th gen and above. We still can't even FPGA the dreamcast yet.
I hate disc games. I wish we could go back to carts. The discs won’t last 40 years like carts did. I’m still playing games from the 80’s. It’s amazing.
For anyone wanting the authentic controller shape but not wanting to pay for OEM controller in good condition, I highly recommend the Hyperkin Captain- They're reasonably affordable and are basically 1:1 in form factor aside from a greatly improved thumbstick (which is good. Trust me on this you don't want the OEM thumbstick if you like your thumbs).
Also very durable, I have a few I bought for a halloween party about three years ago and they're still as good as they were out of the box. Underrated modern option imho.
Any chance for a workaround with the fpga/emulation issue?
Probably
23:52 makes me think of 80's TV repair, just cannibalize an intact tube and kit a new board, 3d print a woodgrain case. That's dope, man
A demo of this system's gameplay would have been nice.
Now we only need a Nintendo64 Cartridge with all the NES games in it and all SNES games built inside the cartridge so we can play it on this console in 4K..
Or you know, just buy a MiSTer for 99 bucks, perfect N64 (better than perfect as it has an auto 60 FPS patcher mode in the Turbo N64 core, the best way to play N64 games with bare-metal hardware) also with the terrible AA filter removed in native 480p, NES, SNES, SMD, SMS, GBA, Amiga, DOS, macOS, hundreds of 1:1 parity arcade cores, all with accurate audio, video timings and pixel perfect RGB.
@@Wobble2007 You're not getting 4K tho out of a mister in order to do that you'd need a Morph 4K or a Retrotink 4K
An Everdrive cartridge, they work on an original N64 for playing backup roms of your legally owned games from an SD/tf card. (or illegal backups if that's your thing) so I don't see why they won't work on this machine too. I suppose we will just have to wait until someone tests it out.
@@HollowRick You realize the Analogue N64 is just using integer scaling, right? Just like the MiSTer can do via .ini up to 4K, or it may well be line multiplying, which is better and the MiSTer is limited to 576p via that scaling method, but either way the Analogue isn't rendering N64 internally @ 4K.
@@JacknVictor If og carts work, so will Everdrives.
Curious that Analogue only showed off the Analogue 3D after the MisterFPGA project had made an N64 core...
My favorite part was when he showed us the quality of the game system when plugged in!
I really hope video demos of this thing become available. Even with the solid quality reputation they've built, it's hard waiting to see what all the money went to until next year
This is dope, glad to know if my n64 or gameboy SP ever stop working that the future holds replacements and improved replacements at that.
wonder where they found a stockpile of RDRAM lol ;) this looks pretty cool.
If they reproduce a PS 1 or 2 then I would be super excited 😅...
I would be most excited to see ps2, but all the people i've seen in the fpga community talking about it say that ps2 is several years away at best. Here's hoping they're wrong..
Apparently ps1 has a solid fpga core made for it already, with MiSTer footage of them up on youtube.
already orderd mine! cant wait!
Man, I love your tattoo!
Also I'm excited about the new console. N64 is my all time favourite console. :')
This is the nostalgia years!
my question is how do we port over the games we have on our current expansion pack on the onto the analogue system because i have certain games in not in the mood to start all over again
I pre-ordered the day they opened up. I've never owned anything analogue before and I don't wanna miss out on this one
This thing better support and Mclassic, because I do like my Nintendo games with anti-aliasing
In game stills or eff off. Analog needs to come to the table with some examples. In theory this will be great though.
Can still be preordered right now :)
I'm curious as to the performance this will bring. Will we get no slowdown on 3-4 player GoldenEye? I seem to remember that it's locked at 15 frames for 3 to 4 player mode, but often times it suffered slow down on original hardware. I'm all for 4K, but 4K at 10 frames is still 10 frames
I always figured someone could get a cheap and easy foux CRT look by stamping the color brick pattern as a filter over the image.
We are at a point where CRT filters / techniques can actually come with our modern displays. All OLED and QLED run of software now. Now, one can tell me that TV manufacturers can't add a retro mode apart from the game mode we already have.
I want a N64 official mini come on Nintendo it's over due. Maybe All interested need to sign a petition for Nintendo to see a huge audience wanting it.
Question about those controllers: are they compatible with an original N64? My OG controllers are really worn down...
Interesting how prices don't change much. When the N64 was first released it was set to be sold at $250, but Nintendo lowered this price to $199 due to competitive markets with Sony and Sega who also dropped the price to make more competition.
Sorry if I missed it but does the Analogue 3D also support the 64DD attachment or is the core built in?
A revolution in scanline filter technology 🤯
I hope we can transfer old saves from a controller pack to the console! Or from a cartridge to the console! Frustrating when the only way to play a classic is to start the game over. I want all my progress and levels opened up!
Still watching, but this hype for N64’s multiplayer heritage. Any possibility with built in WiFi, it’s custom 3DOS that it may facilitate online multiplayer using our OG carts? Basically I’ll be able to slap my f zero cart in and play others online not just couch co-op?
Not on a an OG cart. F-zero would need a software patch. So technically possible on like a everdrive, or a jail brake.
If Nintendo was smart they would build the most native emulator they possible could . Them some hardware that you could plug every Nintendo cartridge into and rip your own library ! built in ai upscaling and upgrades to make the games look amazing . Yeah alot of piracy but you are keeping them in the ecosystem of buying physical copies and playing old games. You publish with Nintendo the game will live forever !
I rather have a handheld that plays N64 carts that can hoot up to a TV over a console when I still have my N64.
I'm more annoyed that this means I need to fix my n64 controllers. :( The 8BitDo controllers don't support expansion ports on them like the N64 ones do. So Pokemon Stadium is out unless I use my original N64 controllers.
Really looking forward to seeing how it makes compares to my actual N64... maybe it can go back to holding doors open for me!
Seems like strict compliance to original spec would *ensure* an EverDrive with ROMs would work.
A website link would be amazing
As long as it lives up to what they say then it'll be awesome.
I'm surprised this guy doesn't get sued by Nintendo for that sleeve 😂
Hmm I just wanna see a demo because I’m halfway sold it sounds to good to be true fr
Retrotink 4k does a pretty good job at mimicking a CRT on an Oled. But it's very expensive, and not for everyone. I would like my N64 to look nice and crisp. Even in a CRT, the n64 looks like hot earwax smeared on the TV screen lol. So I hope there's an option to get it nice and crisp, and not just look like a N64 on a CRT. If that's what you're going for, then that's cool. But I want those pixels sharp, not in a dire need for some sort of anti aisling. It seems like there's for someone for everyone in this thing. I highly doubt it'll be 64DD compatible.
I'm guessing for those that wish to play backups of their legally obtained ROM files, they could use an everdrive cartridge, as the console should run an everdrive cartridge much like the original N64 does.
I got the white one…. I just upgraded my green n64 controller with 8bitdos mod kit. I cleaned the controller also before hand. It rules.
I'm kinda surprised that there is enough of market for a company make these. I can tell you that the number of N64 game carts that I have is zero. The only 'retro' collection I have is few PS3 game I got dirt cheap at a garage sale, and I can't really play them because Ive been so spoiled by having a gaming PC hooked up to a 4ktv.
Super Nintendo is my console from childhood, and the goat imo.
During the Sony vs 64 days I was a Sony kid, and thought of the 64 as a little kids toy.
But thats cool they are making a new hardware based N64. Many great times to be had playing 007, Mario cart, and Mario party with 100% accuracy, and support for modern displays
I know a ton of people who still play retro games and collect them I have everything from atari to ps5 and everything in between
The only reason this might be profitable is that it comes with upscaling. But N64s aren't that hard to come by or particularly expensive. I bought mine for a little under $120 including tax and shipping.
Unofficial firmware patches letting you load games from SD certainly helps.
Anyone know if their usbs will support speakers? My oled monitors dont have built in speakers
no
@@Puretea4711 annoying if thats the case, gon have to get an hdmi splitter
You can buy hardware like a audio reciver to use with loudspeaker or headphones.
@@duskonanyavarld1786those cause audio latency/delay so figured the splitter would be better
@@BBgamerz261 I have not notice it but your milage may vary. Good tip.
Any ways.
Nintendo is coming out with a new 64 in 25'
So is my original N64 with 60 original games (12 still in packaging and never played) and 6 controllers (2 still in package) worthless now?
I can see myself buying these
I just want analogue pocket sooooo bad.....I've got a mega man zero craving so bad...I don't know 🤩🤩🤩
N64 is the Atari of 3D games
Unless they hired Mike Chi, I have my doubts about their claims about their CRT simulated scan lines. For the price though, this thing sounds dope. Also dude, you and like 5 other people have the DD lol
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@@tofer.A for the f-zero expansion alone, im super jelly
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I just have to ask: What is the music in the background of this video? I absolutely love it! But Siri has no idea what it is haha.
I wonder if it will allow fan made ports like the Pokémon N64 cartridges. Like if it allows that, that'll be cool for like say other cartridges that were made after the fact of them becoming scarce might or might not run like they would on original consoles. So until someone tries those reprints on that new Analogue 3D, we'll then know if those can or can't be played, with that clause if it can't play those special copyright files. So for now it's all guessing until people have it and try out it's limitations for real.
n64 is my fav console. it 4players!
very informative
I just wanna play goldeneye and Diddy kong racing again lol
Everyone always says fpga means no emulation yet that’s exactly what it is. They are emulating the chips in an n64 so yes it is emulation still.
That's a matter of opinion, FPGA isn't what most people mean when they talk about emulation. There are actual logic gates programmed into the chips to do most of the stuff, only a small fraction of it is actually being emulated. It's probably more accurate to say that it's replicating an N64. But, you're not going to get the level of accuracy out of emulation right now for an N64 with hardware that we currently have available.
Yeah. Emulation is just a bloated term. Hardware emulation like this offers nearly identical accuracy to actual hardware, whereas software emulators (while really really good) have a ton of hacks to get it playable
Technically, in a strictly literal sense. But for the last quarter century, the word emulation has meant software emulation, and all the problems that come with it. Hardware emulation is a different beast all together and merits a different word. Because when you're asking "is it emulation", what you're asking is, "does it have all the problems that emulators have". And the answer to that question is no.
@@thecianinator I think that replication is probably more appropriate to this, but there's a massive difference because an FPGA system can do more than one thing at the same time, it doesn't have to flip between emulating different systems, it can have different bits of silicon working at the same time.
Trying to emulate that much of the hardware is pretty much impossible. It took something like 20 years for computers to become powerful enough to properly emulate the SNES.
@@thecianinator I mean words are words. It IS emulation. It's literally hardware emulation. All people need to do is specify now the type since we have more than 1, it's that simple. Software emulators are what we are accustomed to, but it doesn't mean it should take over the term emulation as a whole.
FPGA aren't problem free. In fact a "Core" is only as good as how well it was programmed. And it still isn't a 1:1 experience to an actual system, although very close.
Can it play F-zero X in widescreen?
I'd love to see them do a gamecube
A mister FPGA can do everything up to a Saturn right now. Gamecube and Dreamcast are just out of reach. Maybe in the future.
@@Mong00se22 WAY in the future, like 10+ years minimum. There is no reason to do GC or any 6th gen systems with hardware emulation due to how they are built. Software emulators are the much better option and will be for the next decade.
You also can still buy a gamecube with an HDMI adapter, and even install an SD card reader, all for under $150.
@@xMaGuSx888 I just hook my GC up to a JVC production monitor and it looks fantastic. Same with my Dreamcast.
New N64? Watched the video and preordered!
don't wear a red shirt on a red chair, look like Quasimodo. Awesome video and awesome news though. I reckon I was in the top 100 of Golden Eye back in the day. 6 hours a day for 2 years straight in 4 player, stack, one hit kills pistols
Couldnt get any of my cards to work because they have an overseas card processor. As long as it takes my Everdrive 64 and 8Bitdo controllers i will still probably get it at some point just for the upscale.
At that point, you're better off emulating
I’m really excited to see if I need to remortgage my house to buy one. Fair play if you have the money but I can’t waste it on this
Ok, seen the price now. Ok… ok… they did well to get it that low and it feels fair and within reach of the kinds of people who would want this.
Claims sound too good to be true, but you're still saying we should all rush to preorder it?
If you want one, you may want to rush to preorder lol. After looking at their previous products it appears they sell out extremely quick and take MANY MONTHS to restock.
if you don't want one, don't rush to get one, if you do want one, you're gonna have to rush. If you've seen anything on the Analogue Pocket, you'll understand they have a niche market that loves their products because they are very high quality in their build and they give an almost upgraded original experience, the website is just full of marketing speak, but the people who want their products will pay for them and get in the preorder right away. Unlike a powkitty or a retroid pocket which are very nice in their own right, emulation just will never have the same feel as hardware level. That being said im not part of that market and i'd never buy one of these. They are like record players, people will buy brand new record players just for the upgraded classic feeling experience.
No emulation! No emulation!
Except all of the N64 hardware is being emulated by an FPGA chip.
We hear about this console, but not one video example of how the games look.
I’d rather have that awesome lime green N64 Mr. Tofer.a has next to him it’s much more cooler looking
You can emulate on it if you have an ever drive
I very much doubt this console would increase my enjoyment of playing N64 games. I prefer emulators, even for old consoles I owned.
why didn't you show it in action? Let's see it!!
Need a disc reader for game cube
I'd love to see someone also create the 64DD for the North American market.
I need to see some actual gameplay to believe it. Analog is good at bringing retro console into the modern era. All the lip service in the world means nothing without proof.
Hold up, what's the big ass piece of a CD drive at the bottom of that N64?
You can use any Bluetooth controller
Just so you know, you'll require a 4K OLED TV In order to get as close to the look of a CRT in terms of colour saturation and true blacks with the included CRT shaders
or 4k OLED monitor
Good thing 4k OLED TVs cost way less than from an eBay reseller trans fruit trying to sell HIS PvM for Grindr money 😂😂😂
but but but, can i transfer my saves from a card to the system?
Analog says they will do the Funtasic color ways and they also might work on a Analog SEGA Saturn.
They never said any of that. I'm sure they probably will do funtastic colorways simply because of how many limited editions they did for the Pocket, but they haven't said anything about it for the 3D.
Where's it say that? "Might"? Don't get my hopes up for a Saturn.
Love my APock, but this ain't it, not audio DSP, no audio PCM up-sampling which would have made this worth it on its own, no analogue output (ironically), no new releases of unreleased prototype games, like a full physical release of Conkers Twelve Tales, cart releases of the 64DD games like Mario Artist, Doshin, the unreleased Pilot Wings sequel (I need more Pilot Wings), GTA64 (unreleased finished game), Hype: Time Quest, Mini Racers (Nintendo games mad by Looking Glass Studios), Turrican 64 (near complete Factor5 game), Pocket Monster (64DD games from Nintendo).
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