It's crazy to me how people even figure these things out. I love hardware and coding but the ingenuity and understanding of these systems is crazy impressive.
I think it can be summed up as: DRM, even the original paper-based copy protection, did nothing but punish the people who bought a legitimate copy of a game.
in many ways the old versions were far worse because if the got the code wrong then bad luck or if you unfortunately lost the manual you were basically stuffed.
I liked the approach with Spyro 3: it was basically transparent to legitimate owners and the developers understood that they just needed something to delay cracking long enough for sales to fall off the initial spike.
The Wii is my favorite console when it comes to modding.. The Wii U is a close second.. The Wii did things it wasn't intended to do.. Endless amount of emulators, it played DVDs *"Wiis before 2009 had a DVD drive in them while the 2009 and up models had different drives that didn't play DVDs but the alternative to that is buy an external DVD drive that use USB connection"* , a few music apps that let you stream music online or play backup music that you own, LET YOU BACKUP YOUR GAMES THAT YOU OWN and USB loader is just perfection.. The only thing I hated about the Wii was that it wasn't HD..
FTFY MVG: "While I was involved in the homebrew scene, I cannot confirm or deny my involvement in defeating anti-tamper systems for the purpose of just doing it for fun."
One of my first jobs as a young teenager was working at an "anime store" I spent pretty much the entire day installing mod chips and mod switches on Playstations. It was a good gig, first pick of alot of Japanese games that came through too!
It's definitely a result of the fact that the hackers basically have infinity fuckups as they can always try again vs the security developers who get 1.
This series is by far my favourite of yours. Hopefully putting them together in a single video nets you some more views on these great deep dives. I still think the Wii Tweezers was my absolute favourite.
I would like to see a "Mistakes Were Made" video on the Nintendo Switch. There is a rather large hardware exploit in the launch model thanks to the Tegra RCM functionality being left enabled.
The bit about an ARM processor in the Wii highlights a sort of dark age of computers: in most modern computer systems, the main CPU doesn't control the system. It's a microcontroller somewhere else that decides when you can power on, when you can boot, and when you can use it. On the flipside, if you can control said microcontroller, you basically own the system. So it's just kicking the can down the road.
Its relaxing to watch this video menawhile with all the controversies and cancelling going on in the background on youtube. No troubles, just a movie about pirated games and consoles and hacking attempts! Perfect to watch when i am bored or have a long Travel
Fantastic video! I've been modding my consoles since I paid the guy who ran my local video game rental store to instal a Magic 3 mod chip on my phat PS2., it was so sick, no swap and capable of playing any burned games discs. You could rent PS2 games and use any old burner to make a direct copy and it just booted right up it was incredible. I went from paying $50 a game and only able to play a few games, to being able to rent games for $2, and burn the game onto a DVD. I had every single PS2 game out there. It was "magical" lol. I've since modded a gamecube, wii, switch, saturn (saroo), and wiiu. But it was the PS2 that was the coolest by far.
This entire series is perfect to watch. It’s interesting to see how much money these big gaming companies put into there security yet they still get cracked. Fantastic series mate, cheers !
wow... I realize some people here have comments about it being boring but seriously?? This is such an in-depth video it's crazy. Must have taken you forever to put it together. I'm sure the modders were geeking out the whole time. Totally amazing!! This is definitely TV worthy material. Like a commenter had mentioned you should definitely make a DVD of it.🔥
MVG should absolutely make a video about how 3DS security was defeated in general. He made a video on Cubic Ninja but somehow not a comprehensive review of other interesting developments.
MVG, please keep using the music at 14:08 in perpetuity in your videos. For me not only its the coolest track that goes perfectly with your content and brings back the nostalgia of my childhood, but also a great standard signature trade mark of your channel
I still love the Vita in 2024!!! Definitely one of my favorite Handheld/Game Consoles of All Time!! Got one in 2013-2014 originally and I have loved my time with it!! I now have 3 of em, and would have a few more if I were not so BROKE these days..... Great Video MVG!!
Nice. It would be great to see videos on the Dreamcast, Nintendo Wii-U and the Nintendo Switch. This really brought back memories on everything from hot swapping the xbox hard drive. To swapping memory sticks in the PSP and having to have to folders with the same name and the 2nd having a percent sign. I remember when I hacked my PS3 I installed a custom firmware on my ipod and used that to trick the PS3 so I could jail break it. Good stuff!
Hi! I'd like to inform you that there is an italian channel called "DallaTV" that is bringing the same format as yours about how consoles were hacked in the first place, and it is using parts of your videos. I don't believe that you authorized him, and I don't believe that this could be called fair use. Just tought you might find it useful
what i love about how you make your vids and info boss-man is that their timeless, like it your info will never go old. Thank you for many years of learning from one of the best there is!
ive seen all these as individual episodes... but I needed some long form stuff to listen to while doing file operations on a server today, and im all the way to the Saturn! MVG never change brother, never change.
Over an hour in. Man, this is some great stuff. I never got into the mod scene, but I appreciate those modders that have uncharted new territory and given us some great emulators, in turn.
Watched this over a time period of not quite 24 hours in segments, well worth the watch, thank you. Kind of upset that the Switch was not covered, but it's all good, this is an excellent look back at console hard and soft modding for homebrew and rips. Thank you!
Holy shit, this gonna be good. One mystery I've always wondered about the buffer overflow exploit for PsP is why would it work sometimes but not always? Kernel cookies? Memory being in just the right arrangement? Always fascinated me. Thank you for posting this.
Sat through this in one sitting. Anyone, or everyone who is a part of the modding community, curious about it, or interested in hacking hardware for right to use as the owner wills, will definitely enjoy this. I am a bigger fan of the Wii U modding because it sets nicely in-between and with modded ability to play my old GC games, Wii games, of course Wii U, and emulate nicely about ever console before it. I stick to what I legally own on it of course. I do try to be an honest person. I have looked into a few Home-brew as well. To me it will always be the system that didn't get the love it deserved.
The one thing that has always amazed me about MOD chips is that there are a zillion solder points on a system's motherboard and how it was figured out which ones needed to be connected to the MOD chip.
These same people approach anything with the same curiosity. "How does it work?". They then proceed to either removing components from the circuits or tapping into the data flow. Older gen stuff was LOT easier to bypass clearly, but in the end they want to know what makes it tick.
Would think by now there would be a law that modern consoles, which are actually dedicated computers, can't be locked down forever by the manufacturer, that causes stupid levels of E-waste which is simply unsustainable.
In the states they have a law that companies can't lock their phones down forever.. They must unlock them at a certain time frame.. I think it's time for a law for consoles and home PCs to do the same..
Oh man... Saw Tmbinc pop up while on the GameCube topic... Talk about unlocking a forgotten memory. Was really big into modding since the OG Xbox , PSP, and Xbox 360. Good to see X-S is still online too
Is this so supposed to be sleep content? If so, thank you! Love your videos and very informative. I love learning about the industry from an insider. You’re the best!
To quote the Baz Luhrmann Great Gatsby Movie: "The ban on alcohol had backfired; making the liquor cheaper. The tempo of the city approached... hysteria."
Nice. I always used to come back to these videos. One thing tho: You should have included the Star Force and SecuRom videos in here, for sure. As a "Honorable Mentionş" at the end of the marathon. You could have also included all the "sketchy" security measures on the Amiga and C64 etc..... But I guess that is up for another marathon video.
I really hope consoles will continue to get pwned as I love the "mistakes were made" content so much 🙏🤞 thank you MVG. Maybe a future idea could be covering the history of early iOS jailbreaking? That was a great time period and I used to write guides for tethered and untethered jailbreaks on a now defuct blog site.
Mistakes Were Made: The Movie
LMAO
The Mr. Beast doc?
Now featuring Starforce drm for your viewing pleasure.
ConsoleSins
Most untecipated movie ever
The laws of RUclips dictate that you have to rename this video "Console Security Fails To Fall Asleep To"
See you in eight hours zzZZzzz
Ewww conformity
Bro that's super rude 😢
@@overlordalfredo nah its cliche and unoriginal
I love DYKG videos because of that lol
Never thought MVG will release a movie
Sleep content hype train
like bro just uploaded a short vid a week ago now a 2 hour vid 😭😭
respect 4 the grind
Merge together existing videos, easy content to make
Lol this comment popped up as I clicked on the video to see how long it was 😂
@@jaz093My thoughts exactly.
You should release this on physical media.
Mistakes Were Made VHS edition would be dope!!
and copy-protect it, too
@@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer Is there even an open-source version of Macrovision's APS? I doubt they sell licenses still lol
@@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer that would be another Mistake being made about how the MWM VHS tape was copied illegally.
@@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer lol
It's crazy to me how people even figure these things out. I love hardware and coding but the ingenuity and understanding of these systems is crazy impressive.
I think it can be summed up as: DRM, even the original paper-based copy protection, did nothing but punish the people who bought a legitimate copy of a game.
in many ways the old versions were far worse because if the got the code wrong then bad luck or if you unfortunately lost the manual you were basically stuffed.
@@poil8351 Yeah, like those damned code wheels.
I liked the approach with Spyro 3: it was basically transparent to legitimate owners and the developers understood that they just needed something to delay cracking long enough for sales to fall off the initial spike.
Indeed
see 13:20
To honour this episode, I will use a downloader to get an offline copy of it and then share it vía the eDonkey network as a DVD-R iso
The Wii Homebrew scene is just my favourite modding scene
Mine is the PSP.
@@dlte239 mine is psp vita and 3ds
Mines the ps2 and psp since these are the only 2 consoles i owned as kid and i still have them until now
The Wii is my favorite console when it comes to modding.. The Wii U is a close second..
The Wii did things it wasn't intended to do.. Endless amount of emulators, it played DVDs *"Wiis before 2009 had a DVD drive in them while the 2009 and up models had different drives that didn't play DVDs but the alternative to that is buy an external DVD drive that use USB connection"* , a few music apps that let you stream music online or play backup music that you own, LET YOU BACKUP YOUR GAMES THAT YOU OWN and USB loader is just perfection.. The only thing I hated about the Wii was that it wasn't HD..
it was so much fun, i got the wiikey as soon as it was released. I sadly sold that wii but softmodded my next one and the wiiU of of course too
i actually think i'll binge all these again now that a compilation exists this is still the BEST series on RUclips!!
FTFY MVG:
"While I was involved in the homebrew scene, I cannot confirm or deny my involvement in defeating anti-tamper systems for the purpose of just doing it for fun."
One of my first jobs as a young teenager was working at an "anime store" I spent pretty much the entire day installing mod chips and mod switches on Playstations. It was a good gig, first pick of alot of Japanese games that came through too!
Its always interesting to see how big companies security which millions were invested in is defeated by hobbyists
Clearly either secure enough to be found out or sheer incompetence
It's definitely a result of the fact that the hackers basically have infinity fuckups as they can always try again vs the security developers who get 1.
Meanwhile the xbox one is still unhacked somehow???? I'm still so confused about thw XBOX being the o ly unhacked console so far
@@ToxicMothBoi Microsoft knows A LOT about security.
It's very hard to protect against an attack if the attacker have full physical access to the system.
A compilation episode? Hell yeah! I need to get some popcorn.
This series is by far my favourite of yours. Hopefully putting them together in a single video nets you some more views on these great deep dives. I still think the Wii Tweezers was my absolute favourite.
It had me wiizing
Love it!
Please more of those long Videos.
Plainly Difficult does also this, where he puts his entire Videos made in a Year to one Video.
Have watched all of these multiple times. Still watching again. Such a great series.
I would like to see a "Mistakes Were Made" video on the Nintendo Switch. There is a rather large hardware exploit in the launch model thanks to the Tegra RCM functionality being left enabled.
There is one
The bit about an ARM processor in the Wii highlights a sort of dark age of computers: in most modern computer systems, the main CPU doesn't control the system. It's a microcontroller somewhere else that decides when you can power on, when you can boot, and when you can use it.
On the flipside, if you can control said microcontroller, you basically own the system. So it's just kicking the can down the road.
And... You can! At least w/ certain AMD-based core/libre-boot flashed systems!
Man, i always loved the mistakes were made videos. Thanks for this movie.
Its relaxing to watch this video menawhile with all the controversies and cancelling going on in the background on youtube. No troubles, just a movie about pirated games and consoles and hacking attempts! Perfect to watch when i am bored or have a long Travel
Fantastic video! I've been modding my consoles since I paid the guy who ran my local video game rental store to instal a Magic 3 mod chip on my phat PS2., it was so sick, no swap and capable of playing any burned games discs. You could rent PS2 games and use any old burner to make a direct copy and it just booted right up it was incredible. I went from paying $50 a game and only able to play a few games, to being able to rent games for $2, and burn the game onto a DVD. I had every single PS2 game out there. It was "magical" lol. I've since modded a gamecube, wii, switch, saturn (saroo), and wiiu. But it was the PS2 that was the coolest by far.
This entire series is perfect to watch. It’s interesting to see how much money these big gaming companies put into there security yet they still get cracked. Fantastic series mate, cheers !
wow... I realize some people here have comments about it being boring but seriously?? This is such an in-depth video it's crazy. Must have taken you forever to put it together. I'm sure the modders were geeking out the whole time. Totally amazing!! This is definitely TV worthy material. Like a commenter had mentioned you should definitely make a DVD of it.🔥
Pirating games back in the day was far more fun than playing them
It still is in my opinion! :D
LANTUS! I've been following you since the O.G. Xbox. Thanks for all your contributions to the Xbox and gaming community! Long Live Xbox!
3ds mod and homebrew scene is the absolute best.
MVG should absolutely make a video about how 3DS security was defeated in general. He made a video on Cubic Ninja but somehow not a comprehensive review of other interesting developments.
Now this is what I needed today since it is "main room + server cable management" day!
This video is a treasure of video game history, thank you Lantus.
MVG, please keep using the music at 14:08 in perpetuity in your videos. For me not only its the coolest track that goes perfectly with your content and brings back the nostalgia of my childhood, but also a great standard signature trade mark of your channel
I still love the Vita in 2024!!!
Definitely one of my favorite Handheld/Game Consoles of All Time!! Got one in 2013-2014 originally and I have loved my time with it!! I now have 3 of em, and would have a few more if I were not so BROKE these days.....
Great Video MVG!!
Nice. It would be great to see videos on the Dreamcast, Nintendo Wii-U and the Nintendo Switch. This really brought back memories on everything from hot swapping the xbox hard drive. To swapping memory sticks in the PSP and having to have to folders with the same name and the 2nd having a percent sign. I remember when I hacked my PS3 I installed a custom firmware on my ipod and used that to trick the PS3 so I could jail break it. Good stuff!
Stuff like this is part of why I'm majoring in cybersecurity.
Hi! I'd like to inform you that there is an italian channel called "DallaTV" that is bringing the same format as yours about how consoles were hacked in the first place, and it is using parts of your videos. I don't believe that you authorized him, and I don't believe that this could be called fair use. Just tought you might find it useful
MVG needs to update the bios!
Itd be a bit ironic to be talking pro piracy and then be upset when bootlegged himself 😂
People like Leon are why companies like Apple are still in business
@Mixxium i dont see the connection but sure
You wouldn't.
what i love about how you make your vids and info boss-man is that their timeless, like it your info will never go old. Thank you for many years of learning from one of the best there is!
ive seen all these as individual episodes... but I needed some long form stuff to listen to while doing file operations on a server today, and im all the way to the Saturn! MVG never change brother, never change.
That library day rental fee paid itself back so fast in high school :D
I'm saying!!!. That L card blew my margins wide open from the blockbuster days. Plus they had a bigger back catalog
Over an hour in. Man, this is some great stuff. I never got into the mod scene, but I appreciate those modders that have uncharted new territory and given us some great emulators, in turn.
The more secure something is, the more likely someone will try and break in.
Great work!
Finally embracing those of us who wanna sleep with Modern Vintage Gamer
EDIT: As in "fall asleep to"!
👀 sounds fun
lol
nah, as in sleep with.
@@Lou-yf1jo He's not my type but I can respect it.
Sure that's what ya meant buddy, sure.
Watched this over a time period of not quite 24 hours in segments, well worth the watch, thank you. Kind of upset that the Switch was not covered, but it's all good, this is an excellent look back at console hard and soft modding for homebrew and rips. Thank you!
Everybody going with the new youtube meta of long compilation videos after Spiffing Brit's findings 😂
Good! (autistic me likes long form videos, thanks Spiffing Brit!)
@@komidanohitouko Same here also as an autistic with adhd! :D
Time splitter was such a good game. Especially with that map maker. Icing on the cake.
Visting your channel from time to time is truly one of the best experiences on the internet
Love this. Seen more of them individually but all together in order is awesome.
I usually watch these back to back anyways, having it in one massive video is amazing!
Thank you SO much for making this. I love having long videos to listen to while I'm working.
*"MISTAKES WERE MADE."*
My Dad to Me.
Most of these i got to watch as i was having my breakfast this will be really nice to listen through out my work shift
MVG, this is one of the best videos of your channel, pretty insightful and interesting !
"Mistakes Were Made", AKA "Our security will stop reverse-engineering"- Every console manufacturer CEO
Holy shit, this gonna be good. One mystery I've always wondered about the buffer overflow exploit for PsP is why would it work sometimes but not always? Kernel cookies? Memory being in just the right arrangement? Always fascinated me.
Thank you for posting this.
What a rush! Thanks for the great compilation!
One of the absolutely best Channels. Thank you for your content. You have a great talent
Brilliant video!! Spent all day hammering an aweful bug. This got me through it!
A feature length video about console modding? Glorious
Sat through this in one sitting. Anyone, or everyone who is a part of the modding community, curious about it, or interested in hacking hardware for right to use as the owner wills, will definitely enjoy this. I am a bigger fan of the Wii U modding because it sets nicely in-between and with modded ability to play my old GC games, Wii games, of course Wii U, and emulate nicely about ever console before it. I stick to what I legally own on it of course. I do try to be an honest person. I have looked into a few Home-brew as well. To me it will always be the system that didn't get the love it deserved.
Nah, I have a playlist just like this, and you've made it into a full video. You legend.
Oh man! I remember doing the swap method, hahaha. I used a toothpick to hold that button down.
Thanks!
The one thing that has always amazed me about MOD chips is that there are a zillion solder points on a system's motherboard and how it was figured out which ones needed to be connected to the MOD chip.
People do literally everything just so they can play their pirated/burned games. Crazy right?!
These same people approach anything with the same curiosity. "How does it work?". They then proceed to either removing components from the circuits or tapping into the data flow. Older gen stuff was LOT easier to bypass clearly, but in the end they want to know what makes it tick.
All you need is the chip documentation and then apply boolean algebra
words cannot describe how long ive been waiting for this video, thanks mvg
fairly certain I've watched all of these parts on their separate. love this kind of content!
A most fascinating and enthralling watch.
Awesome video as always! Thank for all the work you put into this! It nice all this history is being preserved in your videos.
Sometimes, you just Prepare for Disappointment.
Excellent video man💪
Love the long form compilation!
Love these deep dives, specially for a fellow 80s born dev that also lived through the scene!
Awesome video explaining everything brings back so many memories
Mate, I literally fall asleep to these but the videos were too short. Thanks a bunch!
Would think by now there would be a law that modern consoles, which are actually dedicated computers, can't be locked down forever by the manufacturer, that causes stupid levels of E-waste which is simply unsustainable.
In the states they have a law that companies can't lock their phones down forever.. They must unlock them at a certain time frame.. I think it's time for a law for consoles and home PCs to do the same..
I open it in TV and watching like a movie. Thanks MVG for great memories
Wonderful format! Great watching this! :)
Kool video my dood..reminded me of the good ole days when i bought the swap magic kit for PS2 to play backups/burned games😂😂
No mistakes were made here
until.....
There will be a new Mistakes were Made video
But this is not new, it's just compilation of old videos
Now we need Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S and PlayStation 5 (and maybe Dreamcast) to complete the list.
@@minhcuonghuynh2768I believe he already did a video about the Dreamcast and how homebrew/piracy was easy due to the MIL-CD oversight
@@minhcuonghuynh2768 The dreamcast will be very short: "oops mil-cd" is basically the whole story
@@minhcuonghuynh2768 and the Nintendo Switch videos to be included in this compilation. (f*ck Nintendo)
This is amazing. Thank you so much. More mega mixes please 🥺
Great binge watch whilst at work!
The most anticipated movie ever
This video should be archived ❤
Already watched all of these individuals but imma watch this entire thing anyway because he makes great content so gotta support with the watch time.
So thats what the intro for my copy of Star Wars: Demolition (iirc) was lol... scene groups
So nostalgic!
Thanks for the comp, helps get through a Monday morning. ❤
Oh man... Saw Tmbinc pop up while on the GameCube topic... Talk about unlocking a forgotten memory. Was really big into modding since the OG Xbox , PSP, and Xbox 360. Good to see X-S is still online too
He is back
I don't know why, but I needed this.
Great stuff. Accessible to me, as someone with relatively little technical knowledge of console hardware.
Lots of work involved in this video, thank you!
FINALLY, replacing the MVG playlist in random order I made to sleep to with this MVG curated masterpiece.
Thank you good sir!
Is this so supposed to be sleep content? If so, thank you! Love your videos and very informative. I love learning about the industry from an insider. You’re the best!
To quote the Baz Luhrmann Great Gatsby Movie: "The ban on alcohol had backfired; making the liquor cheaper. The tempo of the city approached... hysteria."
Ah Yes time to rewatch videos ive wateched 1000 times that have now been put in a compilation i can watch 1000 times. THANK YOU
Other than mod chips, it was extremely simple to replace the guts and return it.
MVG, this video rules! So much knowledge
Thanks now i can learn all this stuff i have already learned, what a blessing
Man, I just love that dungeon sounding theme used in his videos.
Nice. I always used to come back to these videos.
One thing tho: You should have included the Star Force and SecuRom videos in here, for sure. As a "Honorable Mentionş" at the end of the marathon.
You could have also included all the "sketchy" security measures on the Amiga and C64 etc.....
But I guess that is up for another marathon video.
I really hope consoles will continue to get pwned as I love the "mistakes were made" content so much 🙏🤞 thank you MVG. Maybe a future idea could be covering the history of early iOS jailbreaking? That was a great time period and I used to write guides for tethered and untethered jailbreaks on a now defuct blog site.
already watched all of these, and loved all of them. i'm absolutely going to use this to fall asleep later
Very informative. Thank you!