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The Lost Battalion: An Epic True Story of American Courage in World War I
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Would love to see a video on John McVicar, prison escapee
Hey btw you said October 11th not November 11th
🎵Far from their land as they made their stand
A disregarded demand
It’s surrender or die and the stakes are high
They live and they die, there’s no time for goodbye
Weapon in hand as they made their stand
A disregarded demand
They would never comply, they would rather die
Broke through the blockade, they were finally saved🎵
- Sabaton, “The Lost Battalion”
1918 the Great War rages on.
A battalion is lost in the Argonne.
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SABATON - The Lost Battalion (Official Lyric Video)
Probably the most underated song of sabaton. Its a great song showing the courage and bravery of american soldiers…
Sabaton worked with one of if not THE BEST history channel on RUclips. The Great War (now real-time history) with Indy Neidell. They have now continued on with a new host, and Indy covers the majority of WW2 on a different channel in the same way, day by day. Highly recommend both of those channels.
Timeghost (Indy's new project that includes the WW2 channel) actually partnered with Sabaton to create the Sabaton History channel where they go through the history behind the song and talk about the song with members of the band (usually Pär or Joakim)
If you think Sabaton sings almost exclusively about WW2, you aren't that much of a Sabaton fan. Their songs cover wars, and war heroes, all throughout history, from all over the world.
He did sell them a little short tbh. 😬🤷♂️
Exactly what I came here to say
One thing Karl didnt mention is how devastating the poison gas was. Mustard gas which was one of the favorites of the Germans left many Americans sterile.
2:50 - Chapter 1 - Battle in the argonne
5:20 - Chapter 2 - Surrounded
8:50 - Mid roll ads
11:15 - Chapter 3 - With friend like these
15:20 - Chapter 4 - A small corner of hell
19:00 - Chapter 5 - Defiant to the end
21:10 - Chapter 6 - The scars of war
25:10 - Conclusion
My grandfather was in the 42 Division US Army, Artillery Sam was a Machine Gun section Sargent. They called him Artillery Sam because Machine Guns were Artillery at the time. They were part of the group that relieved them after fighting thru the surrounding German troops.
The 42nd division was nowhere near the Lost Battalion/77th Division area. They had nothing whatever to do with the LB's relief.
Thank you for talking about this. My great grandfather was a part of the Lost Battalion.
Grenades with a round shape are actually easier to throw due to velocity, like a baseball. Also, the German grenades took longer to throw, as they had to unscrew the bottom before throwing, while you only have to release a pin on a round grenade
Didn't the Russians have a version where you had to drop some kind of metal pin in the top before you threw it?
@@rc59191 not sure on that one brother. I wouldn't be a bit surprised though
@@PhoenixAscending I had to look it up right quick since I only ever seen it used in Call of Duty Finest Hour lol. It's called the RGD 33 stick grenade and it has a detonator pin that has to be pulled out and then dropped inside the top of the grenade before throwing it along with having to twist the bottom a certain direction. Definitely not the most practical one I've seen.
@@rc59191 wow man...would really suck to have to try and use that in a hurry in battle. They probably had it early on in the war. And actually, COD is pretty accurate with their weopans and equipment. One of the reasons I like their games. Thanks for the knowledge
@@PhoenixAscending you're welcome and ya I still play the older games like Big Red One since that's the only game that has my favorite bolt action rifle the MAS 36, Finest Hour, COD 2, and 3.
Karl killed Biographics quicker than he killed his own channel.
We argue over the war because we have nothing better else to do, friend.
And here I was, primed and ready to argue with strangers over the internet for no particular reason.
No you weren’t!!!!
Shut up! No, you are!
we can still argue. you were wrong, anyway
I disagree 😒
Well, It's one pound for a five minute argument, but only eight pounds for a course of ten.
great movie with Ricky Schroder was made about it.
It's actually on RUclips
As an Australian I'm "grateful" for the fact that this nation looks upon World War One as its "baptism of fire" (historical note: it wasn't, really, Australian units had fought during the 2nd Boer War & the Boxer Rebellion post-Federation; however, it was the first time the entire nation had been so heavily invested) & 25th April 1915 (ANZAC Day) holds a stronger, more emotional hold over us than even 11th November.
WW1 doesn't hold as strong a grip on the USA because, unlike the other nations involved, Americans did not spend 4 years looking through the casualty list hoping NOT to see a familiar name. Something like that becomes embedded in a nations psyche & reverbrates down through the generations (even through the aggressive Anti-War campaign of the 60's & 70's).
And yet, despite not having to look through pages of names hoping to not see a family member for four years straight like the Australian commitment to WWI, the casualties between the AEF and Australians were almost identical. In four years or fighting, 60,000 were killed, and 156,000 were wounded, gassed, or taken prisoner according to the Australian War Memorial.
In contrast, In 200 total days of fighting, the AEF had more than 320,000 casualties, to include over 50,000 killed and more than 193,000 wounded.
Of course these casualties aren't comparable on a per capita basis, as just 400,000+ Australians served, vs several million Americans. But, your comment does come off as if you are trying to downplay US involvement.
You assert that people like to argue in the comments, but I disagree 😉
Oh! - Ha! 😅
I don't understand. 😉
I see what you did there
Loud NOISES!!!!
You merely assert? People hate arguing, and it's obvious. The way you worded that is awful and you should be ashamed. There's nothing worse than arguing online and we all hate it.
Thanks for the story about your grandad at the end there Karl, and thanks to him for his service ❤️ super interesting too
Glad you enjoyed it Karl brings so much humanity to these videos!
@@Biographics he does! The little tangents he goes on are fantastic because i relate to doing that and with that kind of humour and perspective too 🤣
I’m alive today because Cher Ami saved my great grandfather.
My great grandfather was apart of the battalion
Mine too! George Hoey, 308th Infantry, Company G.
Mine too! He got the Distinguished Service Cross.
When I was a kid our parish priest was in the Lost Battalion, when asked about it he would say "we got lost then we got found"
That was a really cool story you told at the end there. My grandfather was military as well and it was always a delight hearing him talk about his different tours around the world, almost like listening to a superhero story or something.
My grandfather and his brothers and brother-in-laws never talked about WW2. The closest was my Uncle Maury who told me about something that happened during the occupation of Germany following the war. He was stationed in Bavaria, and without going into details, an older woman who had lost her sons to the war kind of took him in as a surrogate son.
Here I was, expecting Simon Whistler...😊
Where is Simon?
18:11 "Even at the worst moments, like the one where the flamethrowers turned up"
Something so absurd about that sentence and the delivery.
I don't mind the new change of host but I do want to say that the thumbnails have gone significantly worse, like this video, damn what is that thumbnail
I think the U.S. was only involved in WW1 for about 8 months.....they were there long enough to leave quite a legacy though!
They certainly did!
US forces took part in Cambrai, Somme Defenseive, Lys, Aisne, Montidier-Noyon, Champagne-Marne, Aisne-Marne, Somme Offensive, Oise-Aisne, Ypres-Lys, St Mihiel, Meuse-Argonne, and Vittorio Veneto. According to the US Army's Center of History, US forces distinguished themselves several times, including the Battle of Cantigny where US forces took the town and repelled six German counter attacks, or the battle of Aisne, where German forces had driven within 50 miles of Paris. With Marines taking Bouresches and Belleau Wood, and thr 38th holding later at Marne while their French counterparts retreated, earning the 38th the title "Rocks of the Marne" US forces, while minor, played crucial roles in the final offensives of the war. The Meuse-Argonne Offensive, for example, was the largest in US Military history, with more than 1.25 million US troops taking part in the 47-day campaign. The American First Army had driven forty-three German Divisions back over 30 miles, inflicting over 120,000 casualties and capturing 468 guns, at a cost of 117,000 casualties of their own.
In 200 total days of fighting, the AEF had captured 49,000 Germans and 1,400 guns. More than a million US troops in twenty-nine divisions saw active operations, with more than 320,000 casualties, to include over 50,000 killed and more than 193,000 wounded. By October 1918, US forces held over 101 miles of the western front, or roughly 23%. Obviously, these numbers pale in comparison to the British or French, which undoubtedly did the majority of the fighting. But for such a short conflict (1917-1918, for the Americans).
About handleless grenades, i worked with an awesome gentleman who was a WW2 vet. he told me the reason the grenades they used where ball shaped was because everyone growing up them played baseball so they designed grenade that everyone already knew how to throw.
Huh, interesting. So, why are they shaped like a pine cone now?
now that i don't know. i just retelling a story i was told.@@Biographics
My friends granddad fought in the same battalion during this event he thought that they would never would make it out sadly the major in charge of the battalion took his own life after suffering some ptsd. My friends grandfather described him as an incredible officer. He always very personal to his men and his officers.
I can't say this was a fun episode, but I learned something new and I haven't heard this story before and generally I'm not as informed about WWI as its successor. I also felt the delivery was more direct than in earlier videos. I hope it's helpful and I imagine you'll be getting a lot of comments from people giving you pointers to be more like Simon, which is probably less than helpful (for all I know, I've probably done it myself). Also, your ad jacket was dope and it took a second to register that your tattoo sleeve had not actually spread across your torso.
Thank you for sharing the story about your grandfather and his mates. It's lovely that they had the elephant made in his memory. My grandpa served in the American army during WWII and he did not like to talk about it. We do have some stories, but I think he left the war thinking that no one should ever have to go through that again.
@@OldPirate1718 he doesn't; but people get weird when things change and can have trouble adjusting to a new reality. Karl is Karl and not Simon, but he's going to need to adjust to this audience as much as the audience will need to adjust to him. I just hope that doesn't entail a bunch of people telling him to shave his head and grow a beard and talk like he's from the south.
@@benjaminepstein5856 He has actually changed how he presents. He is putting far more effort into speaking slowly and clearly, as he can normally speak quite quickly, that and he is also focusing on stopping his natural accent coming through
@@littleshep5502 indeed, I had noticed a change in presentation and I think it's gotten better. It's just that I've seen many comments to the tune of "if it's not Simon, then it just won't do", which is rather rude and unhelpful. I say this as someone who consumes much of the Whistler Industrial Complex; I accept the reality that he's not hosting these three channels anymore and I've enjoyed Geographics and Biographics and hope to continue enjoying them with Karl or whatever new host they settle on.
Point being, there are humans behind these videos and this change came from less than happy circumstances. The producer seems like a good person struggling with the loss of her father and is doing her best to keep going. Karl is his own person who has built a successful career in his own right; as someone who has taken over for a previous worker, it's very annoying to be constantly compared to your predecessor. It's much better to evaluate based on individual merits and give feedback thusly.
I'm also aware that this is a RUclips comments section and there is no greater hive of scum and villainy. But one can hope for better.
I'm pretty sure there's a dramatic movie about this by the same name "The Lost Battalion".
As I recall it was a well made movie.
Great depiction of a gruesome conflict. Incredibly tragic, about the false information at the start & the passing of Lt Col Whittlesey. Sad & numb……
A ball shape can be thrown with insane accuracy, ask a baseball player or fan about all the different types of throws the pitcher can do. Screw, curve, fast, slow, even pitches that seem to change speed midair.
I can assure you as my Great Great Grandfather was a survivor it definitely matters to me. Especially, when I remember him telling this story and others as a child!
Hey everyone! Scriptwriter Ben here, I hope you enjoyed this video! If you'd like to learn more about the Lost Battalion, I highly recommend "Finding the Lost Battalion" by Robert Laplander. Thanks for watching!
As to the "extinction" of stick grenades: exactly as you assumed, size and weight. They take up about 3-4 grenade's worth of space, weigh about twice without an increased strength. They are simply too cumbersome to be worth the increased easy of throwing.
ok that story at the end was pretty awesome. excellent video overall
Clicked on this expecting Simon only to get Karl Smallwood!
Lucky for me I'm a Fact Fiend fan.
The green screen cracked me up as soon as I saw it.
Karl is now the host of this, geographics and toptenz
Excellent video but I believe you misspoke regarding the armistice. The armistice occurred on November 11, not October 11.
Keep up the good work cal. Enough of us love you and will stick up for you. Mad love from Florida 😂
Ummm, where was the other guy?
Rest in peace to those that passed away.
What a story. A very sad story. Especially the end but amazing
Love Sabaton too, and i learn very interesting story from them i've never heard of
As a subscriber of this channel, I'm eager to hear any new information about the actions of the 'lost battalion' which was first introduced by my favorite band of all time.
Keep up the great work, love you guys
Thank you! Will do!
I have a book written by a survivor, he says that Gen. Alexander was very well respected by the men, which is at odds with the movie version
Was he respected by the men? When was the book published? WHO published it?
It was written by a Private who was a member of the Battalion. He talked about many of the men featured in the movie. He was a Private, , not an officer or an NCO
thank you for this video.
My Oldest Great Grandpa served in World War One. Henry Otto Grill Private First Class United States Army 1895-1979.
Read the book Cher Ami and Major Whittlesey. An excellent book about the carrier pigeons and the Major's viewpoints.
LOVE your style karl! Keep going! And please do Athelstan the Glorious!😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
But where is Simon?
@@reformedgarbage5415 Gone
Karl is a Sabaton fan, cool.
Great story about our history.
Thank you so much for educating us 🇺🇸👋💜😉
"THE GREEN SCREEN" Sign simply made me smile
Great job hosting Karl,. You are one of my top 3 favorite presenters.
So why isn’t the original guy doing videos anymore
Simon had a falling out with the owners of this channel and left. He has his own channels: Megaprojects, into the shadows, casual criminalist, among others.
@@jtsnowman66good to know. I thought he might be coming back now I can clean up my subs
Shame, I used to love this channel. Simon made it though.
While we all fear change and especially surprise change, it's worth pointing out that the people behind the channel are still working out how to adapt to Simon's departure. They're well aware of his draw to the channels and are still dedicated to bringing quality content. If there's something you like, tell them so they can build on it. If there's something you don't like, let them know so they can work on it. If that's not your thing, then it's not your thing, but I'd see how things unfold. Just my two cents.
Daven is great tho. I like this new guy but he's no Simon. Sucks they had a falling out 😢
I've been waiting for this one. Thank you
They have also a lot of songs dedicatet to WW I like " Great war; The Attack of the dead; Soldier of Heaven; The Lost Battalion and many more...
*Dude! You look totally different!! You used to be completely bald, and that hair looks **_real._** No joke!* I guess a lot happened in the last few months, I should have visited this channel more frequently.
The band 1914 wrote a song about this event as well
I'm here because of Sabaton, and I am not disappointed.
Whittlesey unfortunately cracked and killed himself, so sad
Former Major League Baseball player, and Captain in the 77th Division, Eddie Grant, was killed in one of the subsequent missions in search of the battalion. A large plaque was placed in the center-field wall at the Polo Grounds New York in his honor.
I watched a movie about this. It was crazy
Great story,I loved the movie and I also appreciate Karls personal story as well!
Thank you for sharing your hard work. I found your video very enjoyable.
Glad you enjoyed it!
In my neighborhood there is a small square called the "Lost Battalion Square"
Never heard of this - it would make a great movie
Why have we switched hosts?! What's with the emo cartoon character?
I'm sure it's been mentioned with more detail but I thought the change in grenade shape was to more closely resemble something a significant percentage of boys would be familiar with: a baseball.
I can't remember where I learned that, nor do I know if it's apocryphal rather than factual.
WW1 seems like a bad place to get lost.
The grenade thing is both a carrying capacity issue, and a manufacturing issue. Stamped metal is easier and cheaper to make than machined wood
There is a movie of this battalion thats on RUclips called the lost battalion
Love Sabaton!!
I really liked the TV Movie based on the events of the lost battalion. At the time there wasn't that many good WWI movies out there to see, and only a stark few that focused on AEF.
Rick Schroeder was great in a tv movie The Lost Battalion
This battalion deserves its own Hollywood movie
There is, it's pretty good too.
@@scottkrater2131 what's the name?
@@theawesomeman9821 The Lost Battalion, 2001, starring Rick Schroder, and the guy from BoB, Sinks XO I think. Good movie.
@@scottkrater2131 thanks
@@theawesomeman9821 no problem. Enjoy.
My question regarding Alexander has been answered I hope he was court-martialed?
But it’s fair to say that Pershing was pressuring Alexander
It happened! Simon's load got too big! Haha
The Polish officer they keep showing is NOT Charles Whittlesey.
The soldiers who fought in the Argonne are now all gone.
This talk about lost battalions is getting me all bricked up.
I didn’t know about “the Lost Battalion!”
Have the movie on dvd
Schönes Video. Es gibt aber einige Dinge die so nicht korrekt sind:
1. Der erste Musikvideo hat NICHTS mit dem Lied " Lost Battalion" zu tun. Es gehört zu dem Lied "1916"
2. Die Band Sabaton singt NICHT fast ausschliesslich über den 2. Weltkrieg sondern generell Militärhistorische Geschichte!
Lieder die nichts mit dem 2.Weltkrieg zu tun haben! Sehr viele Lieder handeln von Ereignissen aus dem 1.Weltkrieg; aus der militärhistorischen Geschichte vor dem 1,Weltkrieg und Ereignisse in Kriegen nach dem 2. Weltkrieg!
Und auch bei Ereignissen aus dem 1.Weltkrieg arbeiten sie oft mit Historikern zusammen, damit die Liedtexte auch historisch korrekt sind
They were not wrong coordinates, the artillery made the mistake, not those bombed by artillery.
I cannot recommend enough, the movie starring Rick Schroder that was made buy TNT
BTW, the writer of the meoirs was a buck private, not some officer looking for glory!
"Because Germans", brilliant line.
Loving the Karl, keep the Karl!
That clip of the shell shock soldier is fucking heart breaking
Americans played baseball, they throw the American hand grenades naturally .... Most of the time.
They weren’t lost they were cut off
WHERES SIMON
Gone
What's sad is the major committed suicide a few years later
Earl Factwood!
Shivaji Maharaj biography please make video
Mainly watched fact fiend for the last several years, partially due to them being interesting, and captivating, and partially due to other creators being a bit too drab. Saw recently that Karl had become the interim(and hopefully, permanent) host, so have come to give what support I can . As an aside, you are doing great, its just sad people cant accept change
Hooah!!! 🪖
Could you do a Biographics on John J. “Blackjack” Pershing please?
Im just here for Sabaton
Kuba Cruise Ship.........ohne mich
Well host hasn't gone back to Simon :(