The more I see things like this and the crap happening in life today, the more I appreciate having a carbine/rifle of the same ammo and/or magazine to go with your sidearm. I have a whole new appreciation for the leveraction and revolver combo, or the modern equivalent.
The Sub 2K Gen 2 has a lot going for it. Out of the box, mine was dead-on accurate and fired flawlessly. But if you're picky, you will likely find that they are a little rough around the edges when it comes to some of the details. I got such a good deal on mine (
I bought a sub-2000 generation 2 about a week ago. Same thing if fired perfectly right out of the box I took it from the store straight to the firing range, I shot maybe 200 rounds out of it and it was so accurate I didn't even have to adjust the sites at forty yards thirty yards or something ☺️👍🍀❤️❤️❤️
A 9mm Parabellum loaded with a 124 grain JHP bullet shot from a 16 inch barrel carbine is almost equal to a 357 Magnum loaded with a 125 JHP bullet shot from a 4 inch barrel revolver. A 40 S&W loaded with a 155 grain JHP bullet shot from a 16 inch barrel carbine is at least equal to a 10mm Auto loaded with a 155 grain bullet shot from a 5 inch barrel handgun.
GBY ---my friend. I want to say thanks for your service in the Marines and as LEO. Thanks for the protection you and your brothers give us. Stay safe and thanks for sharing
This is a very informative video. I wish that responsible firearms owners in Britain would be allowed to concealed carry with adequate and appropriate training. I'm from London and in the 1970's and 1980's there were too many pointless terrorist attacks on very many targets claiming many innocent victims; one that sticks in my mind was the Tower of London bombing in the mid-70's where eight children were horrifically injured. On different occasions armed members of terrorist groups were chased through London by usually unarmed Police Officers and definitely unarmed civilians. If trained people had been on the streets then perhaps the deaths of many people could have been avoided. My Dad was a Policeman in London but we moved to Norfolk after a man held a gun to my Dad's face and pulled the trigger. For some inexplicable reason the round failed to detonate and my Dad was able to batter the man into surrendering with nothing but his left fist and his wooden truncheon. Years later, in the depths of rural Norfolk, a man opened fire on my Dad with a single-barreled .410 shotgun. The man fumbled a reload and my Dad was able to subdue him. All of the above took place before the banning of semi-automatic long arms and normal sized pistols. Nowadays terrorists use vehicles, machetes, knives but rarely guns in our cities but still the Police Officers are expected to, and do, put themselves between those desiring harm and those that the Police have sworn to protect. How different it might all be if highly trained civilians (ex-military, ex-police and well vetted firearms owners) were allowed to bear weapons to protect the public. Would the monsters who murdered Fusilier Lee Rigby have chanced death to attack a defenceless man? I think we might have found them less ardent in their desires if several bullets into their centre mass had been on the cards rather than life in prison. May I say in closing that I enjoy all of your videos very much indeed. Thank you.
I have a great deal of respect for the police officers in your country. There is no way I would do the job if I was not afforded adequate tools to perform my duties safely. Yet most officers officers in the UK hit the streets every day without the benefit of firearms. The dangers are all still there, regardless of there devotion to duty. When I was in London in 2012, some criminal called in a false report to the local police station. When two officers responded, he ambushed them with an AK47 and hang grenades. So much for the fallacy of gun control. Thanks for watching, and thanks for a great comment. I hope your government comes around at some point and affords it’s citizens the means to defend themselves. Your country is to great to be sacrificed on the alter of failed social policies.
I have the Keltec sub 2000 second generation Glock 19 configuration. And my preferred sidearm is the Glock 19. And I carry it in a backpack also. With about ten 33 round magazine's.
I love my keltec sub 2000 2nd gen HR in 9mm . It is accurate and reliable folds into my bugout bag and complements my Glock 19 using same magazines . Only upgrade is rmr that perfectly co witnesses with the stock sights . It has run flawlessly with multiple ammo choices . Great review! K
Thanks for addressing the "Tommy tactical" backpack, it was bothering me up until you acknowledged it lol. I keep mine in a very plain-looking Jansport backpack and it also works just great.
...funny you should mention this - a week ago a 'good guy' DID Stop a 'bad guy' - in a crowded mall - and with 10 shots - 8 of which hit the perp who was rendered DRT...
I love my sub 2000. I also installed the MCarbo trigger, rear sight, flip up red dot mount, and rear tube cover. It ate every ammunition I fed through it and I wasn't having trouble. But I wanted something more durable that I can depend on. I love what polymers do for firearms but not polymer trigger. It now fires like a dream and is very accurate. I also recommend you buy the sub 2000 Gummy Bear protector. It's 17 bucks and it's a piece of plastic that covers the barrel and chamber when the rifle is folded. It prevents Gummy bears from falling into the action when stored in a back pack. Hence the name. Also an added advantage with a PCC is in any active situation you may encounter pistol cartridges tend to not travel like a rifle cartridge. So less chance of you shooting grandma down the block in exchange of fire. It keeps the rounds more localized. It's why it's my preferred home defense rifle. I love this rifle. For self defense at home, as camp gun. Hiking gun, and it fits wonderfully in motorcycle saddle bags. Paired with 33 round magazine it's a formidable weapon.
How long did it take for them to send your kel tec back with the upgrades? I’m thinking about getting an upgrade on mine..but after 4 years is it worth it? Is the upgrade that noticeable? You know how the trigger is out the box right?! It’s like waiting for the light to turn green at a red light when you’re pressing the trigger 😂
I have one in the Glock magazine model 17 so far it has been flawless , its in a pack with the pistol , there are a lot of upgrades on the market for the sub 2000 now , looking forward to part 2
I recently purchased a sub 2000 Gen 2 9mm. It takes the glock magazines so I now have a reason to purchase a glock for magazine compatibility. I currently have a cz75 and a s&w shield in 9mm so I will probably trade my cz in and buy a glock...makes me wince just thinking about it. Lol. But for the compatibility I think it'll be worth it. I have shot between 150 and 200 rounds from the sub 2000 out to 100yards and not only was I able to hit the targets fairly easy but I was able to fire rapidly and hit the target several times. I'm not a trained police officer or sniper by any stretch but I believe I can defend myself and those around me if need be and I can do it effectively with the sub 2000.
Here is the major issue with this thing. If its not secured to you. Like a ccw handgun would be. Its available to a child. If it is made to be unavailable to a child. It takes too long to deploy.
Well said brother and great set up. I have many different pcc bags ready to go. But the sub2000 bag is the smallest and lightest. It's the easiest to carry. People who say 40 is crap wouldn't say that nonsense if they were on the wrong side of it. Great video sir
In Nj in 1990 when there was very draconian semi auto enacted , since moderated made the springfield m1a was allowed to be grandfathered in. I had to pay a 100 dollar fee. I later found out that 1/2 went to the state administrativefees. The other 1/2 went tot he state violent crime victims compensation fund. So I paid intot he same fund as convicted rapists and murderers. This made me feeel not good.
I love my sub 2000. It's chambered just like an M&P 40. I have yet to have a misfire. It has been very reliable for me. And since I already had a bunch of M&P 40 magazines this worked out perfect. I am not sure how accurate this is. But I have been told that I am gaining about 250 to 300 feet per second. Good point about the backpack I went out and found a single strap laptop bag that was designed to carry an 19 inch Laptop. Holds several magazines and I can still put my M&P 40 in there too.
Very great review Sir!!! Thank you for your service!!! God bless you!!! I'm in Texas and a friend is selling me one.Im excited!!! All legally.Thank you.New subby.Merry Christmas to you and yours Sir!!!😃⛄🎄
I recently purchased a sub2000. I noted many things I did not like on it and looked for solutions. Mcarbo in Clearwater, Fla. offers retrofit parts for the sub 2000 which makes it a totally "new" weapon. I replaced everything inside and out to the tune of over 850. dollars. The sub2000 now shoots like a dream and with the new Mcarbo optic mount and a Sig Sauer Romer 5 red dot...….. life is good and I really enjoy going to the range. Check out Mcarbo.com as they are great people to deal with and customer service is second to none.
I have a few Mcarbo aftermarket parts for one of my keltec sub2ks. I have the the recoil ring that goes in the buffer tube and the heavier charging handle. I highly recommend these two things if you think the recoil is a little rough
Even though kel-tec seems like more of a showgun, fun range gun company I respect what they do as far as their unusual concepts. I am going to purchase a sub 2000 and P17 as a side arm. I think they would make a great (affordable) tactical response/ bug out setup for around $750. 9mm 22lr readily available and (affordable)
I paired my P226 with a Sub-2000 configured for a 5906 by swapping the mag catch. Shared mags is the #1 feature for me. The mag being in the grip makes it an even easier decision
Why is the nexus of your video if your the officer on scene? How about if your the American on scene! Because I do find your points valid and employ them always have but I am not a police officer ! I am simply just an average guy that would lay my life down to protect any human that was in harms way!!
The only reason I stressed officers/armed professionals is because in some jurisdictions it might illegal for citizens to carry the type of firearm I'm using in this video in the manner I'm carrying it. I don't want to encourage anyone to violate the law.
Thanks for the video. I've been thinking about getting one. Right now they go for $370 plus shipping. BTW, I may be wrong, but I thought that a concealed weapon permit only covers handguns, in most states. Carrying a rifle concealed is illegal. Am I wrong?
No, you are correct. My target audience for these videos are armed professionals who ma legally carry such a firearm. Please don’t do anything that would cause you to run afoul of the law.
When those laws were made in most states that say “any firearm longer than 16 inches is considered a rifle”, in addition “Concealed Carry Licenses apply to handguns only”. I’m not entirely sure how those laws would be applied to a weapon technically considered a rifle, but when folded can be concealed like a handgun. I guess we’re gonna have to wait foe that 1st case with someone carrying one concealed in a backpack huh 🤔
SBR an AR to a 14" bbl, store it in your backpack broken down.... 2 takedown pins and you're good Or go with a 10" barrel and use .300AAC I have a Sub2k in Glock 19, 9mm, added some upgrades from MCARBO and i can ring steel off hand at 100yds
I have to say, that doesn't really seem practical. Carrying around a backpack with a carbine folded up in it EVERYWHERE you go, on the one in ten million off-chance that you might run into an active shooter situation one day?? If someone is really that concerned, carry a Glock 19 or a comparable semi-auto in a holster. Odds are overwhelming you'll never need it in your life. I get the advantages of a semi-auto rifle over a pistol but you have to temper it with reason. The inconvenience of lugging a backpack around with you everywhere you go for the rest of your life isn't justified by the advantages you'd get from the rifle when you factor in the astronomical improbability that you'll ever need either one.
Thanks for the video, which is a little different and very informative. Bravo. It's interesting to get a LEO's take on the Sub 2000. I agree with you on every point you make and it seems to me it's a HECK of a lot better as a go-to firearm when things go bad in a mall or a school than a standard pistol. Can you see a use for it in law enforcement? Perhaps with a three-round burst option added as well? Surely it's portability alone makes it worth considering since it would be very easy to store inside a Crown Vic or even smaller police vehicles? Would it be useful for motorcycle officers/Border Patrol members etc. on quads/cops on bicycles? I wonder if we will see it in other calibres, eventually, too: .357 Magnum would be interesting, or it's close 'cousin' .30 Carbine. The M1 Carbine fulfilled an imporant role using just that hardhitting round in the past for police forces in several countries and in that calibre and this configuration law enforcement would have a folding rifle which reaches out to 100 yards easily. Best wishes, and stay safe!
For most LE uses, I think the AR platform is superior. Where the S2K really shines is in roles where it has to be carried in the least amount of space such as brief cases and/or back packs, etc. missions like dignitary protection and SRO duties where the appearance of any black rifle might cause undue anxiety, the S2K can be carried more easily in less space than any other long gun I could find. Folded, it is essentially the same length as the AR from the end of the buffer tube to the front of the receiver (in other words, it’s the length of an AR with no barrel). I carry mine in my brief case just about every day, and its presence is quite reassuring. I’m not sure that we will see a .357 or .30 carbine variant of the S2K. The greater length of those two cartridges would probably necessitate a good deal of design re-engineering. I agree with you though, the idea of an S2K chambered for one of those cartridges has a lot of appeal. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
Ar500 armor makes unassuming backpacks with body armor built-in with the option of level 3a soft armor or level 3+ steel armor. It'd easily hold the sub2000 and you would have some armor that you can throw in front of you
They really don’t. You’re not hiding anything with the greyman lines sold by firearms accessories companies. Even the Duluth bag featured in this video screams that he’s trying too hard to blend in. He looked around for cues of what’s normal and his environment is apparently the local conservation club. And having the same haircut (which looks really sharp, btw) from his service days is icing on the cop. We all live in bubbles.
If you SBR that sub 2k then you’re able to conceal under a sport coat without printing and sagging. I’m going with the Ruger Charger 9mm pistol with Glock magazine adapter.
I'm not saying it's as good as 556...308...etc. for long range especially. ..but you can hit targets shots at 400 yards...with 9mm....also to mention most combat scenarios in WW2 were a little over 200 yards...the PC platform is very effective...it too was used in WW2. The Thompson 45 and the German MP 40
Wonderful video. My S2K is one of my favorites to shoot. It's 100% stock and spits out anything...at least 2000 rounds through it. A range-buddy competes with his and it's also stock w/ a red-dot.
I bought my first gen 2 S2K a few years ago (9mm glock mags) and just picked up a second one last weekend. They are great little carbines. I take one in a backpack in the truck when driving.
You sir have common sense. Many will attack you. The 2k is, in my opinion, the coolest thing since the M1 Carbine. I've been hauling one around for years without suspicion. Kel Tec reputation as crap aside. mine has run 1000 rounds without failure. I think I trust it more than my 17. With the Kung Flu thing going on, my 2k sleeps with me, folded in a spoon position.
@@hrfunk Keltec is junk, if you have to replace the trigger and other parts why have it..I shot one , you can’t fold it with a red dot on it..Kel tec has a bad reputation for being a gun that self destructs…
Add 300+ or-$ at Mcarbo to create a quality long life tool. Just went through this myself. Glad I picked up the rifle at 399 with 100$ mail in rebate…. 300 for the weapon and 300 for upgrades, I feel okay with a vastly improved Sub 2k for 600$. Enjoy and hopefully you or I never need to use these tools for anything other than enjoyment. 😊
Good citizens should be armed all the time, not just police officers. A 9 mm Keltec sub 2K paired with a Glock 9 mm makes sense to me. You could even go the route of a Beretta M9 variant in buying your Sub to K that except Beretta magazines. I’m not sure if Keltec still manufactures the sub 2K that accepts Beretta M9 magazines. The sub 2K is a excellent little pistol carbine. As for what to wear clothing wise it makes sense to be the “ Gray man”. In my younger years I liked tactical type clothing. However I no longer dress like that. Better to dress like I just got off the golf course or in some other casual manner that does not attract attention. I don’t want attention from police officers or from criminals. There are too many police officers out there that do not like armed good guys. They have a core belief that only people that work for the government should be armed and dangerous.
Just an FYI, my S2K was originally set up to accept Beretta magazines. The new mag catches are interchangeable so I swapped it out for the Smith M&P mags.
noted sir! I just can't get past the sights. In a tense situation, I fear that front sight is going to catch on something and be damaged. The ability to mount an optic can be done, but you have to get an add on "flip" mount to make it work. I agree that a long arm is better, you get 4-5 points of contact with it. I just do not trust that thing and think it is not as well thought out as the S&W M&P fpc. Time will tell and it is just the opine of a normal blue collar man that has been shooting most of his life. I am no expert on anything. Peace and Grace Sir and keep doing what you do. I do enjoy your videos.
I just got back from a 4 day camping trip with a religious group. My Sub2k was on my back the WHOLE TIME, except when I was in the shower. Sub2k gets much better groups at 25-50 yards than I could with my pistol.
Mr. Funk, do you still have your Sub 2000? I’m interested in one and stumbled upon your video. I have the option of getting one in 40 S&W or 9mm. D&D guns in New Boston Tx has both. Another option for a bag that may work are the tarp draw string sports bags.
Ok a active shooter with a rifle and u with a handgun, ur at a disadvantage? Um 😶 depends, there a shooting at a mall? Then yes, church.... no. School?... maybe, how’s the layout, I’ve seen layout where a handgun will do just fine others a rifle will be best. Now should u pack a rifle everywhere u go? Personally I don’t care, but u wanna carry a backpack for a folding rifle in hopes u can duck behind the potted plants to get ur rifle, when of ur in the place u can just get be hung the plant and shoot at the guy with a Normal handgun. Now I want this rifle not for the mall shooting or anything but because it’s a long gun that takes the same rounds as a hand gun takes so if u are in a oh shit event u can prioritize ur ammo to one caliber. Studies show u will have a more likely chance in 85% of America to get attacked by a dog or another animal then getting into a shooting match. But terrorist! U say? Well sure u can get this or bring one of those mods for glocks to turn them into short rifles, this rifle is great for recon, hunting, or truck/motorcycle gun.
The difference is range capability and shoot-ability. It's easier for most people to shoot a shoulder fired weapon more accurately when the target is farther away and/or moving. The longer carbine length barrel also improves ballistic performance. That said, if you feel safe with a pistol, then carry a pistol.
I liked my kel-tec sub 2000... but have switched it out for a Ruger PC charger. The charger weighs a little more but when I pull it out of my laptop bag it is ready to go. I don't have to unfold it and chamber a round. It is about the same length as a folded kel-tec so it fits easily in a laptop bag.
Imo the best thing you can do for your sub2k is get high quality mags. The promags that it comes with are trash. Feed problems right out of the box. One snagged every casing on the feed lips and wouldn't work at all and the other one had too weak of a spring. Works perfect with Glock mags
I can’t agree with this option. A short barrel 556 is still going to be more effective than that pistol round and has far better chance against body armor that so many mass shooters are wearing now. Even if the hp round doesn’t perform perfectly, it’ll still be more effective than that 40
C T aim for his head also you can put 33rnds in this gun in a smaller clip than a regular AR-15 magazine. So your getting a smaller clip and 3 more shots . This gun is very accurate has less kick than a .556 and has less penetration power so less chance of hitting a civilian
OK, someone noted you could not carry this in a backpack as a legal concealed firearm, however would it not be labeled as a pistol? Serious question...technically it is branded as a pistol is it not?
Have the Gen 1 only issue is certain S and w mags wish they had had the Glock option , definitely getting a gen 2 with a few add ons I like the sights but many do not as a back pack or yes brief case gun it’s sweet and gives options in bad situations....
Looking forward to it ! You made a wise choice for sure . I get your heads up on new content . I’m doing my own testing on new glock 19 gen 5 mos and I’m so far very impressed with results with the venom rmr mounted . Yesterday’s results at 15 yards 98% A hits out of 100 rounds. I just couldn’t put it down . Next range trip moving out 20 to 25 yards and beyond over time , to see where it drops off in accuracy. Glock changed a lot of things on gen 5 Hr makes it more shootable , at least for me . Another project is a new sig 229r in 40s&w along with sig 225A1 in 9mm both have night sights and Srt triggers , only have 100 rounds through each gun no issues and phenomenal accuracy. K
So, at the beginning you said that was the same rifle you used in service. Did they let you keep that exact rifle or did you buy the same model of rifle?
No one gets to keep government property. In the old days, there were a lot of things that came home in the bottom of a sea bag, but those days were long past by my time.
Mr. Funk you just talked me into ordering a keltec through vances. Working in a hospital as a police officer limits me to what I can carry and i think this will be perfect for my duty bag.
@@hrfunk the ruger pc9 has been good but doesn't conceal as well as the keltec will. So I will let you know after my first range visit. I will most likely set it up exactly how you have yours.
I don’t understand your comment. In most states, citizens can carry firearms to defend themselves. The exact process for obtaining a permit, license, etc. varies a little, but it’s certainly possible.
Yep ... you did the same type of research & thinking I did 2 yrs ago. I have the Kel-Tec Sub 2000 Gen2 in 9mm with S&W M&P mags, which is matched to my M&P 9 & 9c. This way I can use the 12 mag for the 9C in concealment and the 17rd'ers as back-up to both platforms. Then again ... 30+ rd mags work well for both also. As stated by other respondents .... my Kel-Tec has been SPOT-on right out of the box with the std sights. As for issues of customer service .... Kel-Tec was the one that told me about the "barrel" issue. At no cost to me they took care of replacing the barrel. AND ... when it came back ... with the 1st (5) rd's fired ... it was DEAD-on. I would have thought there would be some front sight adjustment needed, but nada. As others ... I'm looking forward to Part 2, but I think I know what the outcome will be. Thanks for serving on both fronts. Keep up the good work.
Hrfunk. SIR Yet again you evoke the thought process. I carry on the job and off-duty all the time. But to be completely honest NEVER ONCE have ever considered employing such a weapons platform as you've illustrated off-duty. Recently as I'm sure you are aware of the Shooting that took place at a Jewish synagogue in Pittsburgh,Pa. That event occurred an hour from my residence. So yeah with this current events happening in this nation, your concept is must definitely VALID.
As an Active Threat Response instructor for police officers, this is a topic that I nearly obsess over. Every time I hear about one of these incidents, I take it somewhat personally. I always feel like "if I was just there" or "If I could have trained some of the people who WERE there". Every time it happens it feels kind of like I have failed in some way. I guess this video is a way of conveying some of my thoughts to a larger audience. Maybe I'll feel like I did a better job the next time around if an armed good guy intervenes and reduces the number of innocent casualties.
I’m not terribly familiar with it, but at first glance it appears to be an NFA restricted firearm. It also generally looks like a bulkier package than the S2K. I also suspect it is considerably more expensive.
glad I found this video...after a multiple firearm sell-off to prevent a financial debacle I am considering this as an affordable basic PCC; my beretta cx-4 & ruger 10/22 compact flew the coop...offset is I preserved my ruger mini-14! I still dislike the idea of 223/5.56 inside my townhouse as a defensive caliber...too much noise & percussion! a 9mm carbine makes sense in this 'in-between' role...
in what realistic scenario are you thinking you will be engaging as a private citizen at 50 yards? I would like this firearm, but I struggle to see what senerio would I myself would use it. It justs looks fun...
The situation I always envision is the active threat scenario similar to what we've seen in various locations around the country. Keep in mind, I look at this from the perspective of a career law enforcement officer, not necessarily as an arm citizen.
Silly question: i’ve always preferred AK-47s because of the low maintenance. And Uzi’s, etc. where does the sub 2000 fall in the high/low maintenance scale?
The S2K is kind of like the old WWII "grease gun". It's essentially a tubular receiver with a spring-driven bolt. It operates on a straight blow-back system. In terms of a firearm, it doesn't get much simpler.
Any time I see an older person in a safari vest I know he's packing
First thing I thought " shoot me first vest"
Tyler Collins he'd get a nerd alert
Hahaha this is so true. It’s always that old guy with the tactical fishing vest or anything with a cabellas logo. My man is packing heat
Safari vest?
We refer to it as a "shoot me first" vest.
Mike Adams ha ha right
I keep my Sub2000 in a messenger laptop bag....
The more I see things like this and the crap happening in life today, the more I appreciate having a carbine/rifle of the same ammo and/or magazine to go with your sidearm. I have a whole new appreciation for the leveraction and revolver combo, or the modern equivalent.
Yep, my dream is to one day move to the country and replace my Sig + 9mm PDW with a Colt + 357 Henry Carbine.
@@whynotmorewhisky Replace? You meant to say "add to", right? Never know when you might go back to the city for a visit.
You can always improve the rife with MCARBO parts, that address the issues.
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At least do their metal feed ramp
Those are MCARBO parts are some great mods. Kel tec will also take back your gen 1 and for $150 send you a gen2 in its place.
Darn thing is a shooter right out of the box as well though...
@@robertgaudet7407 very true. Key holes with mine at 35yrd
The Sub 2K Gen 2 has a lot going for it. Out of the box, mine was dead-on accurate and fired flawlessly. But if you're picky, you will likely find that they are a little rough around the edges when it comes to some of the details. I got such a good deal on mine (
I’m aware of the MCarbo upgrades as well as a few others. When I’m able to shoot it, I want to evaluate the need for some of those upgrades.
I bought a sub-2000 generation 2 about a week ago. Same thing if fired perfectly right out of the box I took it from the store straight to the firing range, I shot maybe 200 rounds out of it and it was so accurate I didn't even have to adjust the sites at forty yards thirty yards or something ☺️👍🍀❤️❤️❤️
Put some MCARBO parts it makes the sub a whole different gun
Be sure to watch all the videos in this series to see how my concept for the Sub2000 progresses.
This guy and Paul Harrell would ruin some young thugs day! 😁
IV8888 made a video demonstrating this gun in 9mm making lethal hits at 400+ yards
A 9mm Parabellum loaded with a 124 grain JHP bullet shot from a 16 inch barrel carbine is almost equal to a 357 Magnum loaded with a 125 JHP bullet shot from a 4 inch barrel revolver.
A 40 S&W loaded with a 155 grain JHP bullet shot from a 16 inch barrel carbine is at least equal to a 10mm Auto loaded with a 155 grain bullet shot from a 5 inch barrel handgun.
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GBY ---my friend. I want to say thanks for your service in the Marines and as LEO. Thanks for the protection you and your brothers give us. Stay safe and thanks for sharing
Thanks Russ. The citizens of our great nation deserve to be well protected. We do our best. Take care.
my 9mm version works flawlessly . my one uses glock mags.
I agree, I am super impressed with my 9mm version
This is a very informative video. I wish that responsible firearms owners in Britain would be allowed to concealed carry with adequate and appropriate training. I'm from London and in the 1970's and 1980's there were too many pointless terrorist attacks on very many targets claiming many innocent victims; one that sticks in my mind was the Tower of London bombing in the mid-70's where eight children were horrifically injured. On different occasions armed members of terrorist groups were chased through London by usually unarmed Police Officers and definitely unarmed civilians. If trained people had been on the streets then perhaps the deaths of many people could have been avoided.
My Dad was a Policeman in London but we moved to Norfolk after a man held a gun to my Dad's face and pulled the trigger. For some inexplicable reason the round failed to detonate and my Dad was able to batter the man into surrendering with nothing but his left fist and his wooden truncheon. Years later, in the depths of rural Norfolk, a man opened fire on my Dad with a single-barreled .410 shotgun. The man fumbled a reload and my Dad was able to subdue him. All of the above took place before the banning of semi-automatic long arms and normal sized pistols.
Nowadays terrorists use vehicles, machetes, knives but rarely guns in our cities but still the Police Officers are expected to, and do, put themselves between those desiring harm and those that the Police have sworn to protect. How different it might all be if highly trained civilians (ex-military, ex-police and well vetted firearms owners) were allowed to bear weapons to protect the public. Would the monsters who murdered Fusilier Lee Rigby have chanced death to attack a defenceless man? I think we might have found them less ardent in their desires if several bullets into their centre mass had been on the cards rather than life in prison.
May I say in closing that I enjoy all of your videos very much indeed. Thank you.
I have a great deal of respect for the police officers in your country. There is no way I would do the job if I was not afforded adequate tools to perform my duties safely. Yet most officers officers in the UK hit the streets every day without the benefit of firearms. The dangers are all still there, regardless of there devotion to duty. When I was in London in 2012, some criminal called in a false report to the local police station. When two officers responded, he ambushed them with an AK47 and hang grenades. So much for the fallacy of gun control.
Thanks for watching, and thanks for a great comment. I hope your government comes around at some point and affords it’s citizens the means to defend themselves. Your country is to great to be sacrificed on the alter of failed social policies.
@@hrfunk Thank you for your service and thank you for your reply.
@@grendelgrendelsson5493 we aren't allowed to conceal carry the sub2k in majority of USA.
They would start a black market for fire arms.
To bad the men in the UK can’t stand up for themselves.
I have the Keltec sub 2000 second generation Glock 19 configuration.
And my preferred sidearm is the Glock 19. And I carry it in a backpack also. With about ten 33 round magazine's.
Gun Guy only 10....
Jeez I’ve put 6 in mine before and it started getting to be a heavy turd!
@@fir5910 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
@Contra EstablishmentYes. And I've had my CCDW for almost 10 years now.
@Contra Establishment Kentucky. Florida excepts Kentucky CCDW. I believe. Been awhile since I checked.
I love my keltec sub 2000 2nd gen HR in 9mm . It is accurate and reliable folds into my bugout bag and complements my Glock 19 using same magazines . Only upgrade is rmr that perfectly co witnesses with the stock sights . It has run flawlessly with multiple ammo choices . Great review! K
Thank you, stay tuned for the range test I just recorded today!
Thanks for addressing the "Tommy tactical" backpack, it was bothering me up until you acknowledged it lol. I keep mine in a very plain-looking Jansport backpack and it also works just great.
i keep mine in a racket ball case . . . fits perfect even with the compensator i installed .
@@pappy451 it’s not 1995 no one plays racketball
My hatchet never leaves my side. I think it was Gary Paulson who wrote the book. Hatchet.
Let’s bury the hatchet
I loved that book!
"if im not in the shower, i have a firearm on me." what a G
What a loser tho.. why doesn't he ever have a sword instead
@@teacopem Or a tomahawk?
...funny you should mention this - a week ago a 'good guy' DID Stop a 'bad guy' - in a crowded mall - and with 10 shots - 8 of which hit the perp who was rendered DRT...
I love my sub 2000. I also installed the MCarbo trigger, rear sight, flip up red dot mount, and rear tube cover. It ate every ammunition I fed through it and I wasn't having trouble. But I wanted something more durable that I can depend on. I love what polymers do for firearms but not polymer trigger. It now fires like a dream and is very accurate. I also recommend you buy the sub 2000 Gummy Bear protector. It's 17 bucks and it's a piece of plastic that covers the barrel and chamber when the rifle is folded. It prevents Gummy bears from falling into the action when stored in a back pack. Hence the name. Also an added advantage with a PCC is in any active situation you may encounter pistol cartridges tend to not travel like a rifle cartridge. So less chance of you shooting grandma down the block in exchange of fire. It keeps the rounds more localized. It's why it's my preferred home defense rifle. I love this rifle. For self defense at home, as camp gun. Hiking gun, and it fits wonderfully in motorcycle saddle bags. Paired with 33 round magazine it's a formidable weapon.
How long did it take for them to send your kel tec back with the upgrades? I’m thinking about getting an upgrade on mine..but after 4 years is it worth it? Is the upgrade that noticeable? You know how the trigger is out the box right?! It’s like waiting for the light to turn green at a red light when you’re pressing the trigger 😂
I have one in the Glock magazine model 17 so far it has been flawless , its in a pack with the pistol , there are a lot of upgrades on the market for the sub 2000 now , looking forward to part 2
I’m looking forward to making it! Thanks for the comment.
I recently purchased a sub 2000 Gen 2 9mm. It takes the glock magazines so I now have a reason to purchase a glock for magazine compatibility. I currently have a cz75 and a s&w shield in 9mm so I will probably trade my cz in and buy a glock...makes me wince just thinking about it. Lol. But for the compatibility I think it'll be worth it. I have shot between 150 and 200 rounds from the sub 2000 out to 100yards and not only was I able to hit the targets fairly easy but I was able to fire rapidly and hit the target several times. I'm not a trained police officer or sniper by any stretch but I believe I can defend myself and those around me if need be and I can do it effectively with the sub 2000.
Good for you! I hope it serves you well for a long time to come!
Here is the major issue with this thing. If its not secured to you. Like a ccw handgun would be. Its available to a child. If it is made to be unavailable to a child. It takes too long to deploy.
It's more of a camping and hunting or outdoors gun.
One of the best videos on utube this year, well thought out and addresses all the pertinent issues... thank you sir💯🍀
You’re welcome. Thanks for the kind words!
There are three other parts to this series which is very complete. Get Funky!
Thought I was watching Paul Harrell for a moment,....and that's a complement, I will subscribe to this channel
Thank you Norman. That’s a great compliment!
Underwood 65gr xtreme defenders out of a sub 2k makes it a nice in between gun
Well said brother and great set up. I have many different pcc bags ready to go. But the sub2000 bag is the smallest and lightest. It's the easiest to carry. People who say 40 is crap wouldn't say that nonsense if they were on the wrong side of it. Great video sir
Thank you, and thanks for watching!
In Nj in 1990 when there was very draconian semi auto enacted , since moderated made the springfield m1a was allowed to be grandfathered in. I had to pay a 100 dollar fee. I later found out that 1/2 went to the state administrativefees. The other 1/2 went tot he state violent crime victims compensation fund. So I paid intot he same fund as convicted rapists and murderers. This made me feeel not good.
I love my sub 2000. It's chambered just like an M&P 40. I have yet to have a misfire. It has been very reliable for me. And since I already had a bunch of M&P 40 magazines this worked out perfect. I am not sure how accurate this is. But I have been told that I am gaining about 250 to 300 feet per second. Good point about the backpack I went out and found a single strap laptop bag that was designed to carry an 19 inch Laptop. Holds several magazines and I can still put my M&P 40 in there too.
Concealed carry permit for a carbine???
Very great review Sir!!! Thank you for your service!!! God bless you!!! I'm in Texas and a friend is selling me one.Im excited!!! All legally.Thank you.New subby.Merry Christmas to you and yours Sir!!!😃⛄🎄
Merry Christmas to you and yours Luke. Thanks for the sub! Enjoy that S2K!
I recently purchased a sub2000. I noted many things I did not like on it and looked for solutions. Mcarbo in Clearwater, Fla. offers retrofit parts for the sub 2000 which makes it a totally "new" weapon. I replaced everything inside and out to the tune of over 850. dollars. The sub2000 now shoots like a dream and with the new Mcarbo optic mount and a Sig Sauer Romer 5 red dot...….. life is good and I really enjoy going to the range. Check out Mcarbo.com as they are great people to deal with and customer service is second to none.
I have a few Mcarbo aftermarket parts for one of my keltec sub2ks. I have the the recoil ring that goes in the buffer tube and the heavier charging handle. I highly recommend these two things if you think the recoil is a little rough
I have those too and drilled a bigger peep sight in rear sight
@@2bituser569 thats not a bad idea, how did it work out for you?
ATF
Not bad at all. Better picture and peripheral vision isn’t blinded by trying to become one with the bolt tube 😂.
Check out the Recoilless Charging Handle as well.
www.mcarbo.com/kel-tec-sub-2000-recoilless-charging-handle.aspx
Being the worst shot in my platoon I was told I could use the DMR rifle only in the event that everyone else was dead except for me.
Chris Clark ha!
Reminds me of Paul Harrell another no BS type of guy.
Thank you!
Even though kel-tec seems like more of a showgun, fun range gun company I respect what they do as far as their unusual concepts. I am going to purchase a sub 2000 and P17 as a side arm. I think they would make a great (affordable) tactical response/ bug out setup for around $750. 9mm 22lr readily available and (affordable)
I love my kel-tec sub 2000!
I paired my P226 with a Sub-2000 configured for a 5906 by swapping the mag catch. Shared mags is the #1 feature for me. The mag being in the grip makes it an even easier decision
I like both of those features too!
Why is the nexus of your video if your the officer on scene? How about if your the American on scene! Because I do find your points valid and employ them always have but I am not a police officer ! I am simply just an average guy that would lay my life down to protect any human that was in harms way!!
The only reason I stressed officers/armed professionals is because in some jurisdictions it might illegal for citizens to carry the type of firearm I'm using in this video in the manner I'm carrying it. I don't want to encourage anyone to violate the law.
Just FYI, I have not problem with any legally armed "good guy" being present during a time of crisis.
The Train you should concentrate having the bad guy lay down his life instead of you doing it. I’ll have your back regardless!
Thanks for the video. I've been thinking about getting one. Right now they go for $370 plus shipping.
BTW, I may be wrong, but I thought that a concealed weapon permit only covers handguns, in most states. Carrying a rifle concealed is illegal. Am I wrong?
No, you are correct. My target audience for these videos are armed professionals who ma legally carry such a firearm. Please don’t do anything that would cause you to run afoul of the law.
When those laws were made in most states that say “any firearm longer than 16 inches is considered a rifle”, in addition “Concealed Carry Licenses apply to handguns only”.
I’m not entirely sure how those laws would be applied to a weapon technically considered a rifle, but when folded can be concealed like a handgun. I guess we’re gonna have to wait foe that 1st case with someone carrying one concealed in a backpack huh 🤔
SBR an AR to a 14" bbl, store it in your backpack broken down.... 2 takedown pins and you're good
Or go with a 10" barrel and use .300AAC
I have a Sub2k in Glock 19, 9mm, added some upgrades from MCARBO and i can ring steel off hand at 100yds
Great video, i keltec in SW and crry SW 9mm. Thanks
I have to say, that doesn't really seem practical. Carrying around a backpack with a carbine folded up in it EVERYWHERE you go, on the one in ten million off-chance that you might run into an active shooter situation one day?? If someone is really that concerned, carry a Glock 19 or a comparable semi-auto in a holster. Odds are overwhelming you'll never need it in your life. I get the advantages of a semi-auto rifle over a pistol but you have to temper it with reason. The inconvenience of lugging a backpack around with you everywhere you go for the rest of your life isn't justified by the advantages you'd get from the rifle when you factor in the astronomical improbability that you'll ever need either one.
Now you have an option that takes M&P mags and is a better quality carbine…S&W M&P FPC.
Vid starts at 7:35.
It starts at 00:00.
The GLOCK 17 compatible one i bought is a good little shooter
I’m 1000 rounds in brass and steel case and I haven’t cleaned it once.
Ive put well over a half case of ammo through my carbine with zero issues
J Med I probably have a full case or more through mine at this point, and it’s performed very well. I can’t complain about the Sub2K.
@@hrfunk about the only thing else ill do to mine is have a metal trigger installed and a stainless steel feed ramp.
Why he sound like obama.😁
Why does Obama talk all white?
Don’t insult the man!
Walmart sells a targus 15.6 laptop backpack for around $20. Sub 2000 fits perfect
Thanks for the video, which is a little different and very informative. Bravo.
It's interesting to get a LEO's take on the Sub 2000. I agree with you on every point you make and it seems to me it's a HECK of a lot better as a go-to firearm when things go bad in a mall or a school than a standard pistol.
Can you see a use for it in law enforcement? Perhaps with a three-round burst option added as well? Surely it's portability alone makes it worth considering since it would be very easy to store inside a Crown Vic or even smaller police vehicles?
Would it be useful for motorcycle officers/Border Patrol members etc. on quads/cops on bicycles?
I wonder if we will see it in other calibres, eventually, too: .357 Magnum would be interesting, or it's close 'cousin' .30 Carbine.
The M1 Carbine fulfilled an imporant role using just that hardhitting round in the past for police forces in several countries and in that calibre and this configuration law enforcement would have a folding rifle which reaches out to 100 yards easily.
Best wishes, and stay safe!
For most LE uses, I think the AR platform is superior. Where the S2K really shines is in roles where it has to be carried in the least amount of space such as brief cases and/or back packs, etc. missions like dignitary protection and SRO duties where the appearance of any black rifle might cause undue anxiety, the S2K can be carried more easily in less space than any other long gun I could find. Folded, it is essentially the same length as the AR from the end of the buffer tube to the front of the receiver (in other words, it’s the length of an AR with no barrel).
I carry mine in my brief case just about every day, and its presence is quite reassuring. I’m not sure that we will see a .357 or .30 carbine variant of the S2K. The greater length of those two cartridges would probably necessitate a good deal of design re-engineering. I agree with you though, the idea of an S2K chambered for one of those cartridges has a lot of appeal. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
@@hrfunk Thank you sir.
Ar500 armor makes unassuming backpacks with body armor built-in with the option of level 3a soft armor or level 3+ steel armor. It'd easily hold the sub2000 and you would have some armor that you can throw in front of you
You gonna hide behind 10x6 plate?
They really don’t. You’re not hiding anything with the greyman lines sold by firearms accessories companies.
Even the Duluth bag featured in this video screams that he’s trying too hard to blend in. He looked around for cues of what’s normal and his environment is apparently the local conservation club. And having the same haircut (which looks really sharp, btw) from his service days is icing on the cop. We all live in bubbles.
If you SBR that sub 2k then you’re able to conceal under a sport coat without printing and sagging. I’m going with the Ruger Charger 9mm pistol with Glock magazine adapter.
Please let me know how that works.
I'm not saying it's as good as 556...308...etc. for long range especially. ..but you can hit targets shots at 400 yards...with 9mm....also to mention most combat scenarios in WW2 were a little over 200 yards...the PC platform is very effective...it too was used in WW2. The Thompson 45 and the German MP 40
I would also say the 30 Carbine was pretty close to that level of performance.
Thx
Are you Paul Harrel's brother?
Nope, but I appreciate the comparison.
Wonderful video. My S2K is one of my favorites to shoot. It's 100% stock and spits out anything...at least 2000 rounds through it. A range-buddy competes with his and it's also stock w/ a red-dot.
The Sub 2000 is one of those rare firearms that seems to give you more than you paid for. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
May I ask what sling you're using on your rifle, while wearing the camouflage uniform?
I bought my first gen 2 S2K a few years ago (9mm glock mags) and just picked up a second one last weekend. They are great little carbines. I take one in a backpack in the truck when driving.
I don’t think there’s a better option for backpack carry. That’s where mine lives.
You sir have common sense. Many will attack you. The 2k is, in my opinion, the coolest thing since the M1 Carbine. I've been hauling one around for years without suspicion. Kel Tec reputation as crap aside. mine has run 1000 rounds without failure. I think I trust it more than my 17. With the Kung Flu thing going on, my 2k sleeps with me, folded in a spoon position.
Thank Paul. I'm still impressed with my S2K. It just keeps running and running, and it carries extremely well.
I would rather have the S&W carbine..
May I ask why?
@@hrfunk Keltec is junk, if you have to replace the trigger and other parts why have it..I shot one , you can’t fold it with a red dot on it..Kel tec has a bad reputation for being a gun that self destructs…
Add 300+ or-$ at Mcarbo to create a quality long life tool. Just went through this myself. Glad I picked up the rifle at 399 with 100$ mail in rebate…. 300 for the weapon and 300 for upgrades, I feel okay with a vastly improved Sub 2k for 600$. Enjoy and hopefully you or I never need to use these tools for anything other than enjoyment. 😊
Agreed. Thaanks for the comment.
God bless the peacemakers in a time of lawlessness
Thank you!
Good citizens should be armed all the time, not just police officers. A 9 mm Keltec sub 2K paired with a Glock 9 mm makes sense to me. You could even go the route of a Beretta M9 variant in buying your Sub to K that except Beretta magazines. I’m not sure if Keltec still manufactures the sub 2K that accepts Beretta M9 magazines. The sub 2K is a excellent little pistol carbine. As for what to wear clothing wise it makes sense to be the “ Gray man”. In my younger years I liked tactical type clothing. However I no longer dress like that. Better to dress like I just got off the golf course or in some other casual manner that does not attract attention. I don’t want attention from police officers or from criminals. There are too many police officers out there that do not like armed good guys. They have a core belief that only people that work for the government should be armed and dangerous.
Just an FYI, my S2K was originally set up to accept Beretta magazines. The new mag catches are interchangeable so I swapped it out for the Smith M&P mags.
All journalists should have to get firearms training and spend a few days at a range.
noted sir! I just can't get past the sights. In a tense situation, I fear that front sight is going to catch on something and be damaged. The ability to mount an optic can be done, but you have to get an add on "flip" mount to make it work. I agree that a long arm is better, you get 4-5 points of contact with it. I just do not trust that thing and think it is not as well thought out as the S&W M&P fpc. Time will tell and it is just the opine of a normal blue collar man that has been shooting most of his life. I am no expert on anything. Peace and Grace Sir and keep doing what you do. I do enjoy your videos.
Thank you!
I just got back from a 4 day camping trip with a religious group. My Sub2k was on my back the WHOLE TIME, except when I was in the shower.
Sub2k gets much better groups at 25-50 yards than I could with my pistol.
Yep! In that kind of roll, it's hard to beat!. Thanks for watching.
With much of what you state in this video; I decided to go with the RUGER PC Carbine 9mm, factory equipped with the Magpul Backpacker Stock.
I hope you like it!
Mr. Funk, do you still have your Sub 2000? I’m interested in one and stumbled upon your video. I have the option of getting one in 40 S&W or 9mm. D&D guns in New Boston Tx has both. Another option for a bag that may work are the tarp draw string sports bags.
I do still have it and I still like it. The Sub2000 is a great backpack firearm.
Ok a active shooter with a rifle and u with a handgun, ur at a disadvantage? Um 😶 depends, there a shooting at a mall? Then yes, church.... no. School?... maybe, how’s the layout, I’ve seen layout where a handgun will do just fine others a rifle will be best. Now should u pack a rifle everywhere u go? Personally I don’t care, but u wanna carry a backpack for a folding rifle in hopes u can duck behind the potted plants to get ur rifle, when of ur in the place u can just get be hung the plant and shoot at the guy with a Normal handgun.
Now I want this rifle not for the mall shooting or anything but because it’s a long gun that takes the same rounds as a hand gun takes so if u are in a oh shit event u can prioritize ur ammo to one caliber.
Studies show u will have a more likely chance in 85% of America to get attacked by a dog or another animal then getting into a shooting match. But terrorist! U say? Well sure u can get this or bring one of those mods for glocks to turn them into short rifles, this rifle is great for recon, hunting, or truck/motorcycle gun.
The difference is range capability and shoot-ability. It's easier for most people to shoot a shoulder fired weapon more accurately when the target is farther away and/or moving. The longer carbine length barrel also improves ballistic performance. That said, if you feel safe with a pistol, then carry a pistol.
I liked my kel-tec sub 2000... but have switched it out for a Ruger PC charger. The charger weighs a little more but when I pull it out of my laptop bag it is ready to go. I don't have to unfold it and chamber a round. It is about the same length as a folded kel-tec so it fits easily in a laptop bag.
Interesting. I might have to look into that.
I have to show this to my wife. She thinks my bathroom gun is crazy.
Imo the best thing you can do for your sub2k is get high quality mags. The promags that it comes with are trash. Feed problems right out of the box. One snagged every casing on the feed lips and wouldn't work at all and the other one had too weak of a spring. Works perfect with Glock mags
I run S&W factory mags in mine and one Pro-Mag. They have all worked fine.
Any chance you’ll be revisiting this series with the new smith and Wesson carbine that folds like this?
I would like to, but I haven’t seen one of the S&W carbines yet.
I can’t agree with this option. A short barrel 556 is still going to be more effective than that pistol round and has far better chance against body armor that so many mass shooters are wearing now. Even if the hp round doesn’t perform perfectly, it’ll still be more effective than that 40
C T aim for his head also you can put 33rnds in this gun in a smaller clip than a regular AR-15 magazine. So your getting a smaller clip and 3 more shots . This gun is very accurate has less kick than a .556 and has less penetration power so less chance of hitting a civilian
2K, G2, .40, MCARBO guts throughout, love it.
OK, someone noted you could not carry this in a backpack as a legal concealed firearm, however would it not be labeled as a pistol? Serious question...technically it is branded as a pistol is it not?
No, it’s a rifle.
What about the Kel-Tec Su-16. It's chambered in the 5.56Nato and it also folds to a compact size. Plus it has a built in Bipod.
I looked into them before I bought the Sub2K. Even folded, the SU16 is still larger than the Sub2000. The SU16 also costs significantly more.
Have the Gen 1 only issue is certain S and w mags wish they had had the Glock option , definitely getting a gen 2 with a few add ons I like the sights but many do not as a back pack or yes brief case gun it’s sweet and gives options in bad situations....
Yep. Mine has now been serving in that capacity for almost 2 years. Thanks for watching!
Looking forward to it ! You made a wise choice for sure . I get your heads up on new content . I’m doing my own testing on new glock 19 gen 5 mos and I’m so far very impressed with results with the venom rmr mounted . Yesterday’s results at 15 yards 98% A hits out of 100 rounds. I just couldn’t put it down . Next range trip moving out 20 to 25 yards and beyond over time , to see where it drops off in accuracy. Glock changed a lot of things on gen 5 Hr makes it more shootable , at least for me . Another project is a new sig 229r in 40s&w along with sig 225A1 in 9mm both have night sights and Srt triggers , only have 100 rounds through each gun no issues and phenomenal accuracy. K
Bd sure to check out party 2 to see how it performs on the range!
A handgun at a rifle fight might be worse than a knife vs pistol.
Looking into getting a sub2000 exactly for this reason
I have own mine for ten years. Hardly been shot. I bought a 40 cal. Wish I had the 9 mill I would shoot it more but under my bed ready
Semper fi.
Semper Fi Allen!
So, at the beginning you said that was the same rifle you used in service. Did they let you keep that exact rifle or did you buy the same model of rifle?
No one gets to keep government property. In the old days, there were a lot of things that came home in the bottom of a sea bag, but those days were long past by my time.
You have a firearm close by when you're in the show. Dang, hrfunk, that brings to mind the shower scene in the John Wayne movie "Big Jake."
I guess that’s better than the shower scene in “Psycho.”
A whole lot more humorous for sure!
All citizens should be armed…
I love my KEL-TEC,, now I got my eyes on a MP40
Mr. Funk you just talked me into ordering a keltec through vances. Working in a hospital as a police officer limits me to what I can carry and i think this will be perfect for my duty bag.
Outstanding! Let me know what you think of it when it arrives.
@@hrfunk the ruger pc9 has been good but doesn't conceal as well as the keltec will. So I will let you know after my first range visit. I will most likely set it up exactly how you have yours.
My agency called them Active Aggressors.
Problem is, most malls won't admit people with backpacks because of shoplifting.
I’ve not encountered that issue.
Cops shouldn’t be armed off duty if the general public can’t be equally armed.
I don’t understand your comment. In most states, citizens can carry firearms to defend themselves. The exact process for obtaining a permit, license, etc. varies a little, but it’s certainly possible.
...a firearm in the shower...like John Wayne in Big Jake....
You don't take your guns in the shower with you? That's the most anti-2A thing I've ever heard.
Ha, ha! Ok, I’ll start taking them with me.
Love the Sub2000. The CZ scorpion pistol with a side fold brace is a good choice too.
Yep!
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Your daughter’s piano playing is beautiful.
Thank you!
Yep ... you did the same type of research & thinking I did 2 yrs ago. I have the Kel-Tec Sub 2000 Gen2 in 9mm with S&W M&P mags, which is matched to my M&P 9 & 9c. This way I can use the 12 mag for the 9C in concealment and the 17rd'ers as back-up to both platforms. Then again ... 30+ rd mags work well for both also. As stated by other respondents .... my Kel-Tec has been SPOT-on right out of the box with the std sights. As for issues of customer service .... Kel-Tec was the one that told me about the "barrel" issue. At no cost to me they took care of replacing the barrel. AND ... when it came back ... with the 1st (5) rd's fired ... it was DEAD-on. I would have thought there would be some front sight adjustment needed, but nada. As others ... I'm looking forward to Part 2, but I think I know what the outcome will be. Thanks for serving on both fronts. Keep up the good work.
Thank you! Just FYI, Part-2, Part-3, and Part-4 of this evaluation are now posted.
Thank You .... I'm a late-comer to your sight/channel. But, now a subscriber! Just finished with #3 and heading over to #4
Thank you!
Have you upgraded to an MCX 300 blck out since you posted this video?
Nope, I have not. Sorry.
Hrfunk. SIR
Yet again you evoke the thought process. I carry on the job and off-duty all the time. But to be completely honest NEVER ONCE have ever considered employing such a weapons platform as you've illustrated off-duty. Recently as I'm sure you are aware of the Shooting that took place at a Jewish synagogue in Pittsburgh,Pa.
That event occurred an hour from my residence. So yeah with this current events happening in this nation, your concept is must definitely VALID.
As an Active Threat Response instructor for police officers, this is a topic that I nearly obsess over. Every time I hear about one of these incidents, I take it somewhat personally. I always feel like "if I was just there" or "If I could have trained some of the people who WERE there". Every time it happens it feels kind of like I have failed in some way. I guess this video is a way of conveying some of my thoughts to a larger audience. Maybe I'll feel like I did a better job the next time around if an armed good guy intervenes and reduces the number of innocent casualties.
@@hrfunk any thoughts on the kris vector ?
I’m not terribly familiar with it, but at first glance it appears to be an NFA restricted firearm. It also generally looks like a bulkier package than the S2K. I also suspect it is considerably more expensive.
glad I found this video...after a multiple firearm sell-off to prevent a financial debacle I am considering this as an affordable basic PCC; my beretta cx-4 & ruger 10/22 compact flew the coop...offset is I preserved my ruger mini-14! I still dislike the idea of 223/5.56 inside my townhouse as a defensive caliber...too much noise & percussion! a 9mm carbine makes sense in this 'in-between' role...
in what realistic scenario are you thinking you will be engaging as a private citizen at 50 yards? I would like this firearm, but I struggle to see what senerio would I myself would use it. It justs looks fun...
The situation I always envision is the active threat scenario similar to what we've seen in various locations around the country. Keep in mind, I look at this from the perspective of a career law enforcement officer, not necessarily as an arm citizen.
@@hrfunk ahh makes sense from your perspective.
Silly question: i’ve always preferred AK-47s because of the low maintenance. And Uzi’s, etc. where does the sub 2000 fall in the high/low maintenance scale?
The S2K is kind of like the old WWII "grease gun". It's essentially a tubular receiver with a spring-driven bolt. It operates on a straight blow-back system. In terms of a firearm, it doesn't get much simpler.
Thanks yet again! Great vids!